Facing A Large Aluminum Forging

This video I show manual probing and setting offsets.

[@ChrisMaj]

25:36 That tool change, nicely edited.

[@user-ju2rg9jt1x]

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[@Tomanista]

When the people in the office asks you "how long will this take" And I'm like "Ask me when I'm done"

[@kevndo]

Lol, especially when you never done a job like that before.

[@billmielke7395]

I like the answer of I think x hours, but it takes what it takes if you want it right.

[@kevndo]

You got that right. I can do it in that many hours, but you may not like the results..lol

[@Sketch1994]

Q: "When will these parts be ready" A: "When I am finished machining them"

[@TommiHonkonen]

I always say maybe by the end of next week if nothing goes wrong

[@stanmacdonald1073]

Peter, thank you for these videos. The amount of effort you put into these while doing production jobs is most generous. The level of detail you provide maybe more than most of us need to see but it gives us a feeling for what it takes to set up and run these jobs. Your craftsmanship and professionalism in both your Machining and your video production is most impressive. Keep up the good work!

[@adamwisialowski2003]

Most definitely would like to see the probing video and setting the work offsets automatically!! Please and thank you!!

[@MachiningandMicrowaves]

Yes please, the detail of how it is done is very interesting (to me anyway)

[@65cj55]

I like channels like this, no annoying intro, just straight into the action.

[@daverodwell3508]

And no background music, this is real stuff getting done.

[@DancingMachine1]

1:40 I love how you always take your time to properly clean and deburr everything. I am paying way more attention to this at my work since watching your videos!

[@Bigblockfooter]

Hi Peter, what do you use in that spray bottle as a cleaning & anti rust agent ?

[@gregkrueger331]

I used to work for Ingersoll and one of my last projects that i helped engineer was an ingot scalper. Thing was 191’ long and had an 8’ diameter cutting head and a 1k hp main motor to handle the 30 metric ton ingots. I did all the systems programming and debugging on the very first one they built, also had to install that beast in Saudi Arabia. For being such a “simple” operation, they’re decently complex.

[@number40Fan]

PETER....yes, I'm yelling. :D Anything and everything that you can show of the work you are doing will be very welcome to most, if not all of your viewers. As long as it doesn't keep you from getting your work done, I'd love seeing every minute of your day. It is FASCINATING! I know you couldn't show any machining of the Titanium rudder fins from the fixtures you made the last few videos, but an update of how things went would be nice to hear.

[@cameronskinner6197]

I see why he has so much work. He's AMASINGLY fast. On some of those moves his hands are just a blur. I wish I could work that fast, do 8 hours of work in 2!! ;)

[@dlstanf2]

You do a fine job with your videos. I watched when you were setting up the blocks how you positioned the threaded rod on top of the hold down by using the bolt head of the table to avoid damaging the table. Little things like that are hard to teach newbies. And the detail of the program cycles were explained well also.

[@calholli]

I like your zero trick-- starting in the center first. That's a really good efficiency insight.

[@trustaskinnycook610]

Peter I love the horizontal mill videos anything you can show is awesome. Thanks for sharing

[@garyshirinian]

I'm still on manual machines, and I love watching see skilled guys like you. It's understandable some customers don't like their projects to be shown. Thx for sharing. I wish I went in to cnc long time ago.

[@FinnoUgricMachining]

LOL, that coding, reading and writing it fluently, remainds me about the Motorola 6802 microprocessor whose machine code I could read/write quite fluently back in 1983. It was all hexadecimal in a 6 digit 7-segment display having address and the byte therein (MEK 6802). Nice video as always. Thanks!

[@paulshouse524]

Thanks for the dramatic tool-change sequence.

[@ForensicCats]

Thank you for posting and pleae post more, i know its time consuming but level of machining is unmatched on KZbin... Your equipment is beautiful works of art.

[@theessexhunter1305]

The basics never change Peter, vice off stone the bed, clock up next fixture....just love it. I put up the vice yesterday on my old mill..still the same way since 1977

[@expidition07]

Another great video from the Edge Pecision Shop. Great showing how one can set up this kind of machining. Your videos are very informative and very enjoyable to watch. Thank you for sharing them with us.

[@Einzbrn]

Never faced a part that large. Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge, specially with work holding.

[@oldstudbuck3583]

I’m not a machinist but still in awe of the skills/knowledge of your work.

[@capnthepeafarmer]

Great stuff, Peter! I really enjoy seeing all the little checks you do to make sure you're successful. I do something similar with automatic probing in fusion 360. I use the Haas WCS macros to update the G54 based on a static "known" point assigned to G59 that matches my model. That way I never have to manually probe a job, it's just all baked in to the program.

[@mattyboyace1]

Hey. You’ve helped me out a ton man since i discovered your videos a week ago. Learned alot already. I figured out that you’re a bit different before i came across your explanation video. But that’s ok. We all have our issues brother. And thankfully, talents.

[@xenonram]

I'd like to see the auto offset programming. Cool tool change edit at 25:35.

[@hambone4402]

Well, that was educational. I’ve never so much as touched a CNC machine before, and I actually understood about half of what you were doing. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@johannglaser]

Amazing! Thank you very very much to include all these details! I was wondering since a long time, how these would be done, like how you are changing the pallet top, adjusting the coordinates, how to start a program somewhere in between, ... I especially liked all your sanity checks, e.g., with the tape measure, summing up the coordinates in the calculator, and also the 1-2-3-block trick. The tool change must have been a hell of a work. Thanks for going this extra mile! And yes, I would be interested how automatic coordinate measurements work. Thanks, Hansi

[@toolbox-gua]

I will watch anything you share. Its a never ending learning experience. Thank you.

[@saytencushman3758]

I love your videos cuz you always show the set up of the parts which is some of my favorite stuff. You lose me in the CNC controller stuff. I feel like manual guys wish they were CNC and visa versa. Lol.

[@peterdupont7559]

And they happily say that these machines do all the hard work for you .... Thanks for all your videos.

[@johnlawler1626]

This is a great video for training apprentice with, particularly the set up at the start thanks for sharing 👍

[@Steve_Just_Steve]

I'll take all the probing info your willing to give. You tha Man Peter! Thanks!

[@jimsvideos7201]

I didn't count them but I am impressed with the number of shots you set up to make this. Anyone who wants to understand how much time you put into your videos should consider that.

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

At the beginning of this video, I thought it would be one of those meditative ASMR-type videos, then he started to talk, and I was finding that I was learning so much after coming out of my meditative state. Ha! So satisfying!!

[@bugrobotics]

The real work of machining! Love the content Peter. Thanks for sharing.

[@jbrownson]

Great video, it's fun seeing all the little details of how you work

[@mattfuchs7626]

Thanks for showing grabbing a 1-2-3 as a quick Z safety check before going full depth. Years ago one of my guys always programmed with a 6" z first so he could use a scale to check every tool. I still use 6 or 1 and even on repeat programs to double check and or catch a boo boo.

[@smedoz]

I’m always astonished by the amount of prep that you go through

[@kimber1958]

Thanks for sharing, also thank the customer. Let them know We appreciate watching their parts being made. To a point

[@ramanshah7627]

A TI-30X user! As you narrated the plans, I was punching them into my own TI-30Xa

[@chrisneale7453]

An amazing video, thanks Peter. Very informative. Your working practices match my night school tutors methods. No crashes yet!

[@eugeniopizzorni]

Buongiorno Signor PETER. Non mi stanco Mai di guardare i Suoi video. Ottimo lavoro come sempre. Grazie MARSTRO 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️

[@mikeshort4291]

Love how you show the operation in the inset.

[@captcarlos]

Thank you Peter. I vote yes for anything you willingly show us.

[@carlosmorais7475]

Hello there Mr CNC I really enjoy watching your videos. To me you are the very best. Keep up the good work.

[@Mikael5732]

I want one of these for Christmas tomorrow morning. I think it will fit in my spare bedroom.

[@25vrd48]

Very informative and educational . Thanks for the lessons . I'd like to see the entire machining video of the block . Great video .

[@johnnycab8986]

Liking the quick editing for the tool change, putting the camera on the chain was cool.

[@artmckay6704]

Hey Peter, thank you for sharing what you could! I think everyone understands that customers have proprietary concerns to protect their stuff. You can't help that. Btw, I'm still very curious about how strongly your custom toe clamps grip the part..... Now that was a clever design! You're quite the innovator! You definitely have a fun job! I'm almost jealous but happy for you that you get to do all of this fascinating stuff! Thanks again Peter! :)

[@gv7756]

Cool Cool Cool And I like the perfect commercial placement when you hit the first cycle start went directly to a kenemetal tool on the lathe

[@EdgePrecision]

I'm curious, because I have no control over what adds are played on videos. Are you referring to a actual add for Kenemetal tooling showing on my video?

[@gv7756]

Not sure if it was the kenemetal or a site selling them but was perfect placement almost looked like that's what you had put in the machine. I didn't think you placed it but just came out like it was 👍👍

[@arfonjones7188]

YES, I too am yelling, full video please, provided it doesn't take you out of whack with your customer.

[@miles32323]

I would definitely like to watch a video about an automatic probing cycle.

[@Andy_Hunter]

Always learn something from your videos. Thanks Peter

[@gordonjones1516]

The feed hold sanity check was one of the first things I learned as a CNC machinist.

[@chrisleech1565]

Very clever tool sequence Peter.

[@TomChame]

Excellent explanation and camera work, beautiful. Thanks.

[@MetrologyEngineer]

I’m a little bit surprised you don’t use and drill or impact to remove or install the socket head cap screws onto your table. As well as using a torque wrench to tighten everything. Still fantastic work and I learned a ton from watching this!

[@guybrown2339]

Give him a raise. Stoning his surfaces. Start precision.

[@bhimapandava7767]

Yes, I would really like to see a video explaining how the automatic cycle works and how you use it.

[@steelwheelsminnesota]

Man if only all the saw cuts were that straight! Good video. Ever consider writing a trig cycle for your offset evolution around B? I have a couple days of doing it. The first will wrap your G54 B0 position to any other B angle/offset number. The second way, my preferred way, will run the same offset for any B position. It references B0 position, reads the current B position, calculates and sets a program offsets. Programming that way, all locations follow print dimensions.

[@jaycrook1076]

Hi Peter. Great video. I would also like to see the probe auto-setting the offsets. Thank you in advance.

[@dnjmachine]

And I complain when I have to take off my 6" vise... Cheers from Texas

[@arnljotseem8794]

Very educational. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

[@Forbidden303]

Loving the edits man, good work!

[@travisjarrett2355]

Ha ha! I thought those looked familiar. We have the same exact work boots sir. Excellent video. Keep up the good work my friend.

[@dan3076]

looks like you made your own pallets? real world!!

[@Chorca]

Love the tool change bit there, that must have taken some time to set up each of those shots and cut them all together! Great work!

[@duncanbell1425]

well my new found friend, I am amazed at your skills you are unbelievable engineer that's for sure, but please invest in a Milwaukee it would make life easier quick fastening stuff down, I am watching and learning from you at 73years old Top Man

[@1960Martin]

Great video Peter! I was just learning CNC machining in 1982 and tried out a Rennishaw probe for the first time on aHulle-Hille horizontal 4-axis machining centre. Over-confidence of youth I'm afraid.....The machine controller wouldn't let me override the feedrate manually whilst in the probing cycle, I recall, due to the axis velocity being critical to probe accuracy. Also it's hard to dry-run with a probe and nothing to touch, so I went for it at 100%...the Z-axis didn't stop when the probe triggered, so the the probe rammed itself straight into the workpiece and totalled itself. I never, ever, did anything at 100% for the first time, ever again. I can't recall how the probe didn't stop the axis moving at that time, but I must've resolved that somehow. Embarrasing and very expensive mistake.

[@EdgePrecision]

You have to be carful while running Renishaw probing cycles/macros. I once pushed feed hold in the middle of a probing cycle. Than thought I could continue with cycle start. It broke the stylus on the probe. If I have to stop in a probing cycle. I start the whole thing over from the beginning. Just to be safe.

[@kv4302]

I think you're mispronouncing M00. G-code is an ancient dialect, and sounds very much like the cow sound, because that is way funnier.

[@SuperstarComponentsLTD]

I can never forget this now😂 my programs are now cursed with 🐄

[@MrBoredNoMore]

We use cow sounds for our drawing numbers at work! Completely unrelated to G-code though so I could see things getting lost in translation...

[@zajawamotocykle9256]

G code is for noob. Mastercam rulez

[@keefjunior4061]

@@zajawamotocykle9256 nah... MC is for newbs who can't handle math.

[@brantonbeall9061]

Definitely do want to see a video on probing automatically!

[@dtiydr]

Very good camera placements!

[@Equus_Master]

Great! Greetings from Republic of Korea

[@hansdorfer3371]

I remember when we machined really large aluminum Castings like this, using a 300mm Facemill on our big vertical boring center

[@tonibauer8449]

Definitely recognize those mitzs ran them for about 5 years. The 800mm ones.

[@hk-bp5ku]

love your videos. thanks

[@williamschmitz2218]

Ah man just watching you take all those cap screws out and back in made my wrists hurt, ya need one of them impact drivers

[@mtraven23]

im now watching you do your fixturing in avoidance of doing my own (much smaller) fixture.

[@emilr5815]

Another excellent video. I agree with the great edits on the tool changer. Nice to show what it actually takes to change setups, been through a few of those myself so I can appreciate the effort. i trust the TI plates came out ok?

[@EdgePrecision]

Yes the titanium parts came out good.

[@emilr5815]

@@EdgePrecision Glad to hear the 0.0018 didn't hurt. Keep the videos coming when you can. Thanx.

[@EdgePrecision]

No I fixed that before running the real parts.

[@emilr5815]

@@EdgePrecision Did you shift the centers on the fixture? That was my first thought for a fix. I thought that would be a huge undertaking. just curious.

[@EdgePrecision]

No the error was in the right direction so I could skim off another .0018". If that hadn't been the case than I think I would have taken off the end pieces. Gone over to the horizontal mill and faced off a few thousands off the plate. Than reinstalled the ends. Than re-cut it on the Mazak again.

[@erikliebtrau2740]

Great Job! Keep on doing so..! Greetings from Germany.

[@christopherterry5831]

Always but always use packing around sharp edges under lifting straps 5:09

[@emrfixit]

This was awesome, I love the tutorial on the numbers... Can we see more???

[@EdgePrecision]

Look at my newer video after this one.

[@Tacomaguy458]

Man, I miss running aluminum... The shop I work at we only run castings, steel weldments and 8620 for the most part. I run a big boring mill but every now and then I'll hop on a 600mm pallet horizontal when they need help. My table is a bit bigger at 63 x 86. Most of the parts I run are between 6-12 thousand pounds... lol I havent seen any of your other videos but, you could cut down a ton of setup time going to ball locks to align your tombstones. Dont really need to dial in as long as everything is clean going on.

[@lwilton]

Peter, I think when you were measuring the finished 14" you were saying that the top was slightly wider than the bottom. I was wondering if this was the result of tool pressure, or possibly because you set an unmachined surface on 4 blocks rather than 3, and possibly it could wobble a little? Would using 3 blocks have been any more stable?

[@guybrown2339]

Removing a machining tombstone with a beautiful Kurt vise

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video peter..thanks for your time

[@davidcox692]

Great video again buddy

[@T-rock_chr0n1c]

Another great machinest channel

[@jeffgreene6042]

I see guys like you... and awe at your knowledge and understanding. Then I see on the news that a teenager want 15 dollars per hour to make a hamburger... and... I wonder what's wrong with this world.

[@airgunningyup]

when most of your day is fixturing and machining is a second op

[@gregchapman5556]

I had no idea what you were talking about but dam it was interesting. I’m not an engineer by the way 😆.

[@danielwcrompton]

I would love more information, the video length is just right

[@cristinelpricop]

I'd like to see the automatic offset probing and some of the math behind the variables. :) Thanks.

[@Randy_M_1]

I love your videos, you do such a great job!!!

[@davekeach4898]

Nice Editing of the tool change segment.

[@MrNeverseeme]

Those picky weird customers :) just let them know we the viewers do not care about them building there space crafts or what not we just like the content you share its informative and educational... not everything has to be hush hush secret secret proprietary mumble jumble. Great vid as always... From Cali...

[@juanyamasaki9930]

another good lesson Peter.thanks

[@demondude360000]

Used to love it when we got an aluminium part in as opposed to the traditional Inconel 718, the jobs seemed to fly past! Just wondering on this sort of operation, have you tried out round insert face mills at all with a lower axial depth? Due to chip thinning you can really get those cutters movin'

[@EdgePrecision]

On other parts in this group of parts I do use a milling tool with round inserts to rough with. Its a 2.0 diameter with five inserts. I run it at 5500 RPM at 200 inches per minute fee .150 depth of cut. At a full width of cut it draws 100% spindle load of this 40 Hp spindle.

[@demondude360000]

@@EdgePrecision sounds aggressive, although with softer materials that's the only way to be I've been doing some research lately into cutting technology and it's really opening my eyes to what's possible when using the right type of tool combined with the right toolpath. As mentioned before the chip thickness is the key with cutting rather than simply using feed per tooth when engaging on less than the radius of the insert/cutter

[@frotobaggins7169]

that's some fancy camera work on the tool change. :D now that I know the customer is touchy about showing his big rectangular block of aluminum, makes me wonder what it its. lol how secret can a big block of aluminum be? before that I hadn't a care in the world as it's just a big hunk of aluminum. lol

[@MetrologyEngineer]

Nice tombstone!

[@tedsaylor6016]

Peter, can you explain the Axis Arrows painted on the forging? Is that the company mark, or some indication on how it was forged and the resulting grain structure? Do those arrows matter in how you machine the forging?

[@EdgePrecision]

They are the grain direction. For this part it isn’t necessary to know.

[@dondroc1]

Running the spindle high RPM. warms it up and it gets longer. Possibly why it came out a hair small.

[@t.d.mich.7064]

I could have done that same job, faster, on a manual Lucas Boring Mill. Lot less calculations, nervous checks, and room for error. I like C.N.C. been using it since 1986. But, I think too many times, there is a lot of wasted effort when CNC operators insist on doing a manual job. Just my opinion, and it's worth what it cost you.