EDH Deck Tech 4 - Sliver Overlord

[@deathless8085]

Training ground doesn’t reduce activated abilities to zero. But nice deck overall 🤙🏼💀

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks my friend! I did completely botch that part Lol! I’ve updated the deck description! Cheers and welcome to the channel 😎👍!

[@xDukii]

lol 808 durdlezone like bang?

[@WunDumDorf]

Nice setup, good to see recent discussions on slivers. One note on Virulent Sliver, while Poisonous and Infect both apply Poison counters to an opponent, they behave differently. For example, a 5/5 creature with “Poisonous 1” will do five points of damage to the opponent and apply a single Poison counter. Alternatively, a 5/5 creature with Infect will not cause the opponent to lose any life, but it will assign five Poison counters to the player. Infect is a combination of the Poisonous and Wither abilities which is why it will apply -1/-1 counters to a creature, but Poisonous has no affect against creatures, just opponents. Pertinent rules: “702.70 - Poisonous” and “702.90 - Infect”

[@closetmtg8029]

Hey my friend! Thanks for the clarification on the infect vs poisonous abilities as pertains to damage! I honestly was not sure on that ruling and the difference between the two! Love me some slivers lol! Thanks again for the comment and Welcome my channel! Cheers!

[@someGUYwithADHD]

REALLY? Are you positive? I have a card that says "poisonous 1(this creature deals damage as poison counters or -1/-1 counters to creatures) orrrr..... something like that

[@vorpalz2356]

I love slivers! They're so dope.

[@closetmtg8029]

Lol always wanted to make a sliver edh deck, finally got around to it!

[@jacobseibert1635]

16:50 training grounds dosent let you reduce the cost to less than 1 mana, which means that sliver queen still costs 1 mana to make tokens

[@closetmtg8029]

Fully agree bud, corrected this awhile Back from great feedback from others like yourself! Cheers my friend!

[@jacobseibert1635]

@@closetmtg8029 ahh I see! My bad, I didn't even look at the video description 😅 loved the build though!

[@closetmtg8029]

@@jacobseibert1635 no worries at all and thank you!

[@chaplain1112]

Feed the hive! Happy to see you run all 5.

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks man! Love me some sliver lords! Cheers my friend!

[@1980chardison]

I was known as the sliver god back in my day before leaving Magic losing track of my cards, and getting into the military. I played and developed the original counter sliver deck, wild pair sliver deck, pauper before it was named pauper, the original Highlander sliver deck. Had over 300 sliver queens at one point in all languages along with all the rest. Really sucks I don’t have them anymore

[@closetmtg8029]

Slowly buy some back my friend, atleast for nostalgia. Cheers and thanks for stopping by.

[@1980chardison]

@@closetmtg8029 I have been picking up specific commander decks, necrons, tyranids, the new eldrazi, new lands deck, and waiting for the sliver hive deck to come in

[@kovar23]

They are so amazing, I have the complete original sliver deck premium deck sliver and turned it into an amazing commander deck

[@closetmtg8029]

That’s awesome man! Slivers are just so much fun to build around! Great edh tribal! Cheers bro!

[@kingofredlions8729]

The combo with mana echoes is for sliver Queen, you activate her ability one time with only her on the board you put one sliver in the table you have two slivers making two mana which you can then spend to make another token ad nauseam.

[@closetmtg8029]

Bro thanks so much for the explanation! Definitely had a lot of great feedback on combos and synergies with this build! Thanks again for stopping by and welcome to my channel!! Cheers

[@Snskch3]

Those lands are sick

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks bro! Appreciate the kind words! Welcome to my channel! Thanks for stopping by and hope you liked the deck. Cheers man!

[@Dinoking9996]

You should get jodah archmage eternal he works very nicely with morophon

[@closetmtg8029]

First need to put this deck back together my friend, I’ve pulled a lot of the mana base and artifacts to build other fun decks more recently. Definitely when the time comes I will give Jodah a look. Cheers and thanks for stopping by! 👍

[@brandongalvan6603]

For the hive!

[@someGUYwithADHD]

If you search for crystalline sliver first... and then play it..... doesn't that ruin your ability to search for a sliver? Also "say THIS perm" abilities?

[@closetmtg8029]

Hey man! It does not ruin the ability to search for slivers. Now if you have crystalline in play with amoeba changeling and you want to try to steal another creature you cannot. Cheers bro!

[@gabrielbelanger8169]

It ruins the "gain control of target sliver" since it aplies to ALL slivers.

[@travelingrabbit2222]

here you got another combo. Sliver queen, Basal Sliver and Lavabelly Sliver

[@closetmtg8029]

Dude I didn’t even catch that one, infinite damage and life sounds cool lol! Cheers and welcome my friend!

[@wofljaw]

He completely misunderstood Training Grounds. For example, it has no effect on Sliver cycling.

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks for the correction bro! Your right this was definitely my bad! Welcome to my channel!

[@joe.5103]

Lookin to build a sliver deck, what do you think of Benthic Biomancer? Not a sliver but a second training grounds to make overlord cost less seems good. Do you tutor for training grounds with demonic/vampiric often enough that a duplicate effect isn’t worth it? Also why no arid mesa? If budget isn’t an issue, isnt all 10 fetch + all 10 duals optimal? I had city of brass over yavimaya but I like yavimaya. I haven’t seen it before so I’m going to try it out! Also Wdyt if Ignoble hierarch over Noble because mana echos is double red? Lastly, I’m playing frenetic sliver just because it’s fun lol.

[@closetmtg8029]

Hey Joe, benthic is solid but not where I wanted to take the deck in that i wanted all slivers unless it’s a mana dork. I do often tutor for training grounds but more the pieces to go off, crystalline sliver, sliver legion, other fun cards based on how the game is going. Why no arid mesa?? To be honest I pry didn’t have any available (not already in other decks) at the time of making the video. No that modern horizons 2 is out and I’ve opened up a ton of fetchlands I for sure will be adding all 10 fetches with all 10 duals. Will pry make an update video on a revised deck list at some point in next few months!

[@closetmtg8029]

Fully agree on the ignoble change with noble and lol!!! Frenetic seems crazy fun lol, another sliver that I know did not exist ! Cheers my friend and welcome to my channel!!

[@TM-um8mr]

I was wondering why you did not include heartstone is does only reduce by one but something just in case training ground gets destroyed

[@closetmtg8029]

To be honest I didn’t even know hearthstone existed my friend! Very cool!

[@TM-um8mr]

@@closetmtg8029 glad I could help!

[@LuciusAmadeus21]

If you have a sliver queen out + 2 other slivers, and you play mana echoes, can you in theory create an infinite amount of slivers? That’s what I would do but I’m a degenerate

[@closetmtg8029]

Yeah my friend, I’ve done it once before and then proceeded to get board wiped on the next turn 😂. Lol

[@Slim3398]

This is why slivers gets focused

[@andrewcvety]

1x Scrubland 1x Bayou 1x Underground Sea 1x Tundra 1x Taiga 1x Tropical Island 1x Savannah 1x Plateau 1x Volcanic Island 1x Badlands 1x Scrubland 1x Bloodstained Mire 1x Flooded Strand 1x Marsh Flats 1x Misty Rainforest 1x Polluted Delta 1x Scalding Tarn 1x Verdant Catacombs 1x Wooded Foothills 1x Windswept Heath 1x Arid Mesa 1x Steam Vents 1x Godless Shrine 1x Watery Grave 1x Temple Garden 1x Hallowed Fountain 1x Overgrown Tomb 1x Breeding Pool 1x Drowned Catacomb 1x Woodland Cemetery 1x Glacial Fortress 1x Raffine’s Tower 1x Spara’s Headquarters 1x Xander’s Lounge 1x Zagoth Triome 1x Strip Mine 1x Wasteland 1x Exotic Orchard 1x Command Tower 1x Cavern of Souls 1x Gaea’s Cradle 1x Reflecting Pool 1x Basal Sliver 1x Sliver Queen 1x Manaweft Sliver 1x Dregscape Sliver 1x Hibernation Sliver 1x Sliver Legion 1x Sliver Hivelord 1x Harmonic Sliver 1x Crystalline Sliver 1x Gemhide Sliver 1x The First Sliver 1x Cloudshredder Sliver 1x Morophon, the Boundless 1x Harsh Mercy 1x Vindicate 1x Maelstrom Pulse 1x Chainer’s Edict 1x Duress 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Hull Breach 1x Green Sun’s Zenith 1x Ponder 1x Hymn to Tourach 1x Thoughtsieze 1x Mind Twist 1x Dreadbore 1x Inquisition of Kozilek 1x Brainstorm 1x Mana Drain 1x Bant Charm 1x Force of Will 1x Anguish Unmaking 1x Cyclone Rift 1x Evasive Action 1x Disallow 1x Flusterstorm 1x Utter End 1x Abrupt Decay 1x Essence Shatter 1x Negate 1x Esper Charm 1x Eladamri’s Call 1x Mana Leak 1x Void Rend 1x Swords to Plowshares 1x Dovin’s Veto 1x Impluse 1x Memory Lapse 1x Hinder 1x Dissolve 1x Complicate 1x Assassin’s Trophy 1x Hero’s Downfall 1x Voidslime 1x Swan Song 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Counterspell 1x Cryptic Command 1x Miscalculation 1x Spell Crumple I play a more control variant to ensure board control so I get the combo or with just a few slivers + legion easy attack win.

[@closetmtg8029]

I will definitely be referencing this list in the future, maybe for my next game night! Thanks man!

[@JojoFPS]

excited to watch the vid, slivers are cool

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks bro! Love to hear your feedback

[@JojoFPS]

im not very good at deckbuilding, but it seems like a really fun deck! looks like a lot of the slivers have heavyier mana costs though, how easily does it play out?

[@closetmtg8029]

@@JojoFPS I’m not good at deck building either man! It’s just fun to experiment you know, I for sure am know guru. But to your questions, the deck plays out very easy. Lots of mana fixing, easy tutor ability with overlord to get whatever you need to do the job. Lots of fun each time and different experience bro.

[@mhtanks]

"Sure man join our pod! Oh, it's slivers? Okay, well who's the commander? Oh. How original, I guess?" Like, just use a cooler sliver, Overlord is for the people who can't handle losing.

[@dobby092]

Ohh, man, that's the dream! What a great deck, those slivers are such a funny headache for sure XD I think training grounds can't reduce the cost to less than 1, so it will be endless, but will cost you 1 more mana to start XD Congrats, it's a beautiful deck, I don't know if opponents would think the same way, but it sure is fun to play! I wouldn't know anything new to add, it looks pretty solid as it is, lol Have a nice week, man!

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks so much bro! It’s a powerhouse for sure. So many bombs and synergies that very quickly you can turn it around or tutor you what you need and steam roll your opponent. Lots of fun to play with and lots of fun to build. Thanks as always for your comments bro! You too have a great weekend!!!

[@dobby092]

@@closetmtg8029 It sure is 🤯 Slivers have that mechanic regarding the hive lore, that all are a legion and their effects are over all the board, not only under your control, it gives them that touch that makes the game so much better 😍 Totally like it

[@closetmtg8029]

@@dobby092 dude your so right! And when all those abilities stack it gets insane pretty quickly. Especially with the big lords…crazy. Thanks again bro for the feedback as always!! Cheers my friend!

[@MrDjLonghair]

Hey I know you from somewhere dobby... Something about socks?

[@dobby092]

@@MrDjLonghair I worked in a store once, but I got free as soon as I was I could... Job was enslaving. But made some cool friends, a dude, Harry, great guy

[@antdog6211]

Great video man but I hy do you make a loud sound with your mouth after every card?

[@closetmtg8029]

Sorry dude! Your the first person to give me this feedback! If/when I start making vids again I’ll curb my breathing lol 😂. Cheer dude

[@truegrit2060]

I'm in the process of building a slivers deck myself but I plan on having Morophon as the commander. I imagine after playing morophon, I can just drop the legendary slivers for free into the battlefield and any other slivers with no generic cost to them.🤔😄

[@closetmtg8029]

Awesome man! Love me some slivers! That’s sweet your going with morophon as your commander. Morophon, slicer overlord, and mana echoes allows you to search up and play any sliver for free! I myself haven’t pulled that off yet but would be amazing if it happened lol. Especially seeing my friend get salty about it lol! Cheers bro and welcome to my channel!

[@dexterblasigh6422]

i'm doing this commander but i don't have much money to invest in lands, what combination / lands do you think I could use?

[@closetmtg8029]

Dude awesome! Thanks for checking out the vid and deciding to give the deck a shot! It’s a lot of fun regardless of the lands you use. In terms of some more reasonably priced but decent lands, I’d go with shocklands, fetches, battlebond lands, the zendikar rising and kaldheim pathways, the jumpstart slow dual lands aren’t too expensive and decent too. The most recent innistrad set also has some good dual lands that are cheap. Ikoria triomes is another good option. If you get the fetches definitely try to do that now since there low priced currently with MH2 having been released recently. Cheers my friend!

[@dexterblasigh6422]

@@closetmtg8029 thanks bro

[@cjr3985]

I run Slivers too. I consider my deck to be pretty powerful too. Although I have a different set up. I try to get Crystalline Sliver out before I bring out the Overlord. I do that because often My Overlord will be targeted before I cans use it to Tutor.

[@closetmtg8029]

That’s awesome man! Slivers are alot of fun, definitely my favorite tribal. Sounds like although are setups are different we still have similar strategies, crystalline is usually one of the first slivers I try to get out, that one and the hivelord 👍. Cheers my friend and welcome to my channel!

[@cjr3985]

@@closetmtg8029 Have you ever thought of putting Tamiyo, Collector of Tales into the deck?

[@closetmtg8029]

@@cjr3985 I have not, not because I don’t like the idea of it, but more because I already run tamayio in my atraxa deck. If I can I try to avoid running the same card a lot just to keep it fun. If I wanted to go full power then I pry would make some changes. Cheers man!

[@cjr3985]

@@closetmtg8029 How do you deal with Mill and exile?

[@closetmtg8029]

@@cjr3985 I don’t have a ton built in to the deck to handle either. I guess my focus in building the deck was to keep It on theme verses making it the most versatile or OP of you will. Hope this helps man! Cheers!

[@sQuibleable]

Where did you get the deckbox

[@closetmtg8029]

Just on Amazon bro, it’s one of the green ultra pro boxes with the symbol. I think it was like 25$ or so. I definitely recommend it. Cheers man!

[@nelsikegaming]

Just bought this deck! I had the OG dual lands, fetch lands, shock lands so it wasn't too much more expensive.

[@closetmtg8029]

Dude that’s awesome! It’s a blast to play with, the combos, the synergies, I love me some slivers, that so cool you had the OG duals as well. Cheers my friend and welcome!

[@nelsikegaming]

I had built a budget "slivers with extra steps deck" tried it and I had to get this!!

[@closetmtg8029]

@@nelsikegaming I’m pumped your trying it man. Definitely let me know how it goes and if you can do some broken stuff when you play. Cheers man!

[@hermannrorschachder2.]

Did i miss the infect sliver?

[@closetmtg8029]

Virulent sliver my friend?

[@hermannrorschachder2.]

@@closetmtg8029 yeah?

[@closetmtg8029]

@@hermannrorschachder2. I know virulent can give poisonous counters or 1 per damage, wasn’t aware of any sliver that gives universal infect though bro. Cheers!

[@rodrigoquiroz]

Force of will in a penta deck? 🤔

[@closetmtg8029]

Yeah bud, more for my play group! Cheers and welcome to my channel!

[@rodrigoquiroz]

@@closetmtg8029 I know it's a powerful card but if you don't have another blue card to exile... Then it's a terrible counterspell. And in a penta colored deck that's seems very likely to happen, have you ever been in that situation?

[@closetmtg8029]

@@rodrigoquiroz yeah that is a great point, I did pull it off once to prevent a turn 3 Kalia from being played but your right, it’s very unlikely that in a 5 colored deck that I would have another blue card to exile with it. To be honest after your point I think I will replace the card with another! Thanks for mentioned this my friend! Love your feedback on some of my other decks as well if you have time and don’t mind! Cheers my friend!

[@rodrigoquiroz]

@@closetmtg8029 fierce guardianship is a great option for a replacement 😁👍 I just found your video yesterday and since I'm building a Sliver Overlord deck it really helped me out, I have a bloom tender sitting on my binder and it never occurred to me that it's a great addition to this deck. Unfortunately I don't have the cash to afford dual lands haha but used triomes, shocklands and basics instead. Anyways it was of great help! Thanks my friend. I'll check out your other videos for sure, very nice deck BTW! I'm kind of jealous 🙈

[@closetmtg8029]

@@rodrigoquiroz dude FG Is a great idea! I wish I opened up more of those lol, I already had that one slotted for my attaxa deck but I cannot think of a better blue counterspell card to replace force or will with! Great idea my friend! And man! I’m so glad I was able to help give you a few ideas 💡! I love that about commander, you can put your own spin on your 99. There’s so much good content online and different ideas to pull from, you really can’t go wrong aside from screwing up the mana, 100% about fun! Regarding the duals, those are definitely my prize mtg possession or up there at least! Great investments in my opinion! Anyhow glad I could help and thank you for your help bro! and For SURE let me know once you get your sliver overlord deck together, would love to hear about some of your matches or perhaps other synergies that you try! Cheers my friend!

[@simoneprina1230]

Love this video. i just buy the proxy lords because im poor, so im going to play cheap slivers with the 5 big. Probably god of magic gonna hate me.

[@closetmtg8029]

Magic is magic! Fun with real or proxy. I love the history of the game and from a collection standpoint I enjoy owning the older cards! Game play wise though, Cheap or proxy it don’t matter! Thanks for the kind words! Cheers and welcome!

[@TheMoose253]

We need more Sliver content ! Lol haters gonna hate.

[@closetmtg8029]

Lol! Maybe I’ll do a re up with some mods or a new sliver commander, you really can’t go wrong with any of the big lords. Cheers bro!

[@xTrittonStudios]

Sir read your cards, you need basal to go infinite with training ground and queen, cool deck though

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks my friend! 100% agree! Appreciate the comment and glad this deck may have given you some ideas! Cheers

[@waynehumphries6970]

You are missing out on a few cards that are op in the overlord deck I can’t give you all my secrets but you can have a couple that you will want to squeeze in shields of valis vel, ahh god dam autocorrect it hates magic cards names 😂 unnatural selection, seed born muse is crazy good especially in multiplayer.

[@closetmtg8029]

Seedborn muse is an incredible card, only recently came to know of the card’s existence. Cheers my friend, thanks for the feedback, will definitely check out shields and yeah unnatural is beyond OP.

[@michaelmacfarlane8207]

Training grounds says not less than one so abilities still cost one to activate, but still a very solid deck

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks bud! Yep, updated the description with this oversight on my part! Thanks for the kind words and welcome to my channel my friend! Cheers!

[@someGUYwithADHD]

READ THE REST of training grounds. You STILL have to pay 1. It's not free

[@closetmtg8029]

Sorry bud, updated the description a ways back stating that I was very wrong in my understanding at first. Thanks for the feedback my friend and welcome to my channel!

[@meatbyproducts]

Sliver Queen and Mana Echos is infinite

[@wofljaw]

People running Overlord ALWAYS sleep on Unnatural Selection and Hivestone, and Imagecrafter.

[@closetmtg8029]

Ill definitely check out those cards and find some slots for sure! Thanks for the comment my friend!

[@spiderwebus99]

Needs an intruder alarm

[@spiderwebus99]

I got one for mine when paradox engine got banned

[@closetmtg8029]

Fully agree that intruder alarm would fit very well in this deck, to be honest I didn’t even know that card existed until recently. Cheers my friend and thanks for stopping by!

[@ReAnimatedStoner]

Got a sub cause of slivers, I just use morphon as my commander. Gotta surprise them so I ain't a target right off the bat

[@closetmtg8029]

Thanks bro! Welcome to the channel! And well played lol, keep them guessing. Love my slivers! Cheers bro

[@kingofredlions8729]

Also double sleeve your $600 sliver Queen

[@closetmtg8029]

Lol!! Will do bro! Cheers!

[@someGUYwithADHD]

I honestly feel Like you are playing a deck that somebody else made. Because the genius in the deck is high. But you don't understand rules very well. I dont mean this as an insult. Im telling you this because you are a KZbin and you value what we think. I personally only use decks that I myself created. I don't find influence anywhere. (Obviously tribal effects influence). But really.... it us SUCH a satisfying win when you used your own brain! It's organic

[@closetmtg8029]

I did seek a lot of influence from other builds and yes I did make several mistakes in explaining many of the synergies. Obviously had a lot to learn still. However the final deck list was my own creation. I agree that organic builds yield the greatest sense of accomplishment/satisfaction when it all comes together. This is why I enjoy limited and draft almost as much as commander. Cheers mate,

[@someGUYwithADHD]

Nature's lore should be taken out btw. You don't need ot