Edith's Bank Accounts (ft. Jean Stapleton) | All In The Family

[@j.p.8276]

Jean was a classic. No one could have done it better.

[@wholeNwon]

No one could have done it as well.

[@DavidLopez-jl2ug]

@@wholeNwon yes that too.

[@Ryan-hl4ur]

When actors can convey heavy emotions & feelings w/o even saying a word. She played it perfect, her silence is deafening.

[@ecthelion222]

I love when Edith stands up for herself. She’s such a gem and deserves the same kindness she shows everyone else.

[@oldladylovesBruno]

How can you not love Edith? She's amazing.

[@jackjules7552]

You might love Edith, but who would marry someone so subservient but someone like Archie.

[@Milolan]

Truely a class act. Not just the character..but the actress as well. Much love.

[@cerebraltackle]

If dumber than a box of rocks equates to "amazing", then I guess so. 🤣

[@rossrobertson674]

She played it so perfect 😂

[@DavidLopez-jl2ug]

Huh? Yes, Edith (Jean) played a ditzy character but was so much smarter than that ignorant bigot Archie. I love All in The Family anyway. It's a huge classic.@@cerebraltackle

[@raulcastro925]

Edith was a true innocent angel with a heart of gold.

[@jackjules7552]

But not too smart.

[@alizahalon]

​@jackjules7552 Smarter than you realize. Just very sincere and slightly naive. She did value herself and the work that she did at home. She was just surprised that the manager didn't.

[@sheldonrigsby3523]

You said it.

[@ArtCast24]

Jean was an angel too. She lived near me when she was home in Pennsylvania.

[@roberthurley6860]

I love this! Edith was many of our mothers at that time. They worked hard at home, took real good care of us, and didn't get paid a penny.

[@jackjules7552]

That was their choice.

[@roberthurley6860]

@@jackjules7552 ???

[@planetoftheeps]

​@@jackjules7552 it's not a choice if you actually want to be a good mother and wife.

[@jackjules7552]

I agree with you..but you can still be a good mother and wife and have some sort of career outside the home. That way you can maintain some sort of independence and security for the future if your marriage does not work out. It takes just being organized and smart. @@planetoftheeps

[@malachimccoy4271]

My mom, Elaine was a wonderful mother and took care of our WHOLE family...

[@Ash_Rein]

As a four-year-old boy, this actually stuck with me. I watched it and immediately ran over to my mom and hugged her because I wanted her to know that what she did was very important to me

[@BeyondTigerMilk]

lol, this is just a clear attempt at getting upvotes.

[@raygunsforronnie847]

@@BeyondTigerMilk Or your reply is.

[@freindlycannuck1591]

This was one of best sitcom to hit the air at the time and definitely one of the best, until this day. What you are actually seeing is just fantastic professional character acting. We've seen Edith being interviewed on an episode of Jonny Carson and then you realize all the talent needed to create this character, because Jean Stapleton was in fact a very well educated, poised and sofisticated lady!

[@SirManfly]

And what you're also seeing is a window into what life was like for the middle class in the 70's, I know because I lived it !

[@freindlycannuck1591]

@@SirManfly yup! Absolutely right. Been there also!

[@marymacdonald2379]

Edith represented my mother's generation. At 56 my Mom returned to full time work after taking junior college business courses. (She had been a secretary/stenographer in her early twenties) Her three remaining at home teenage children cooked dinner for their working parents.

[@amyburl3826]

I remember my father sending notes or a phone call of permission for my Mom to handle money matters or put something on an account in the 70’s. Not by his beliefs but by societal rules back then. The second a woman could get her own accounts and cards without a man, my Mom got them. I’ll never forget how happy my Dad was for my Mom. She was proud. ❤

[@jdtractorman7445]

His comment of "just a housewife" is a slap in the face. Good for Edith on pulling her accounts out of there. One of my grandmother's did that her whole life for the most part. I know what it involves because I saw her do it.

[@ddmck1972]

Not to mention he slammed the door behind her.

[@TeddGCM]

That's the way it was at the time. Women weren't expected to have money or work. It was a common requirement for the "husband" to "approve" financial applications.

[@davidfinch7407]

It was badly stated by him; he meant, "since the work you do doesn't generate any money, how would you pay back the loan?" Cooking, cleaning, etc, is very important, but it can't be used to pay back the loan. But the writers wanted us to feel angry like he was disrespecting her. Looks like it worked on a lot of people.

[@Cinncinnatus]

@@TeddGCM at the time? thats how it is now you dont get loans from a bank with no job no income or assets to back it up. You can have the highest credit score in the world.... no assets no income you still dont get a loan from a bank you'd be lucky to even get a real credit card. Student loans dont count....

[@TeddGCM]

@@Cinncinnatus What I'm saying is, in the 70s, a woman pretty much could not get anything without the husband's (or other male's) approval.

[@ChristopherCalhounFLNYC]

She was and will always be a treasure.

[@markbirchette8740]

Friendly bank? No such bank has existed in my 58 years!😂😂😂 FGB First Greedy Bank would've been a better title.

[@jackjules7552]

You are right. No such thing as a friendly bank. And they get unfriendlier by the day.

[@laquetaworley4791]

😂😅🤣👏🏾🙋🏾 I love Edith and Archie and the family

[@alexisdiva9]

@@jackjules7552 not to mention impersonal - we're just numbers to them.

[@JenniferRusso5]

Fiendly Bank.

[@lyraserpentine894]

She also should've said that she was going to tell all the other housewives in all her groups about this and then she could've convinced them to take their money out, too.

[@zangetsudx1]

So they should all take their money because Edith couldn't get a loan due to being a high risk with no guarantee of paying the money back.... That's stupid logic that will make you go bankrupt unless you're back by taxpayers money.

[@kil2250]

@@zangetsudx1 /yawn

[@PerspectiveEngineer]

Na, that's just a fever dream we've been living for since then. But now there are strong independent women that can do this because of women like Jean and Edith

[@johnettepace9262]

@@zangetsudx1so women are supposed to support a bank that doesn’t support them?

[@zangetsudx1]

@@johnettepace9262First off, the modern woman doesn't know nor care what they support as long as it only benefits them based off of whatever emotion they are feeling at that moment. That's why the modern woman owns the majority of Americas debt.

[@Jtm1976]

I remember being in the ER with our daughter being very sick, they came for information and asked what I did for a living and I replied oh I’m just a stay at home mom, the kind nurse told me your job is the hardest and you have nothing to be ashamed of. I’ll never forget that❤

[@93Jubilee]

A lovely thing for her to do -- and so true!

[@jimsoper8201]

I remember my Mother tried to get a bank loan as a single a mother and was denied. She got a loan from a finance company at a high interest rate. She remained extremely loyal to the company because they were the only one who would give her a loan.

[@fairedepeche]

This is accurate. I grew up in this era. I paid the electric bill for eight years with my name on the checks, but when my husband left our marriage and I was setting up my own home, the electric company informed me that I was now viewed as a new customer. They would only credit my husband with my good payment history.

[@charmng521]

Wow!

[@cg9612]

Thanks for sharing your story. It's important to know.

[@matthew8153]

The name on the checks doesn’t matter even today, it’s about the name on the utility account.

[@fairedepeche]

​@matthew8153 Do you actually believe they offered wives the opportunity to put their name on the utility account instead of their husbands? In the 1970s, the first question a woman was asked in a business transaction was , "Are you married?" Do you know when I went to change my name in the court system but was still legally married, the judge actually asked me if I had "permission" from my husband to change my name?

[@matthew8153]

@@fairedepeche Did you have your own source of income or were you a housewife? That makes all the difference.

[@jeffreysokal7264]

She played the part so well. She described what has long been a thorn in the side of women across the globe. And the banker played the part of the typical male they have had to deal with. Kudos to Jean for a part well played.

[@johnwilburn]

Banks are equal opportunity now... they can rip off both men and women, equally.

[@93Jubilee]

Stepleton plays this skit beuatifully, allowing Eedith's pain to be shown more than anger. And she shows her dignity beautifully too. So well done.

[@MyMeadowlark]

I remember when my mom (a RN) and dad legally separated in 1978, all my mother's creditors called in their loans, in full and immediately! Hudsons Bay company wanted full payment RIGHT NOW, utility companies were no longer allowing for her acocunts or accomodating her regular bills, even though she was the one supporting the remaining family with her higher and substantial income, paying ALL the bills it takes to keep a family. It was disgusting,the discrimination she was subjected to. Power to my mom for asserting herself and making her way through all that with dignity - love!

[@davidyearout7897]

The only way to get a loan….is to show you don’t need a loan

[@The_Gallowglass]

No, the way to get a loan is to show that you're both trustworthy and capable of repaying when they want it.

[@kristinholsapple2587]

I like your answer and I am sure you are trustworthy and I am sure you are capable of repaying and I am sure you pay your bills when they want .. It was a funny reply ..

[@justuschickens10]

Just a housewife 😮😱

[@dailyrider2975]

Rich guy enters a bank in NY city and asks for a 1 month loan of 10000. When asked what he would use a collateral, he replied my 100k Porche parked outside. Porche is placed in underground bank garage. So month later man returns and pays off the loan. Banker was curious and asked why he had gotten the loan for only a month. Well I live outside city and your bank is close to airport, where else can I safely park my car for $40 for a month?

[@The_Gallowglass]

@@RoachDoggJr2 That's why usury is a sin. :)

[@JanMartin-m3j]

Many who are long time fans of the show can recognize that is the wonderful Jean Stapleton

[@johnnyboyvan]

I has tears 😢 when I watched this episode.

[@rustyshackleford6035]

Why ? Let me guess your unemployed 🙄

[@ohwell94]

​@@rustyshackleford6035if the OP is a woman who lived through this time I feel their pain!

[@maryannbolger6694]

Bravo Edith!!!

[@civillady13]

I was 16 when the law “allowing” women to open and have accounts in our own name was passed. Those “their choice” comments have to be from younger people, especially men, that never knew a time when women couldn’t have that and credit cards in OUR OWN NAME. It was attitudes like what this banker illustrates that lead to alimony support. Many stay at home women were dumped by their husbands for a younger model and were left destitute because they had no income, no work history, no credit, no savings and no social security. Consider that even if a woman worked she had no credit or bank accounts separate from her husband. Officially she didn’t even really exist.

[@scottlarson1548]

This episode has an interesting contrast from when Archie needs Edith's signature to take a second mortgage on the house.

[@curtrn]

Not really , the bank want's everybody's butt liable for everything so they are over collateralized in the event of a default. They want no risk and they want to be able to suit anyone the can. I have don't ever use a bank to borrow money. If I don't have the cash we don't buy it. Never have we had more 2-3 years after we applied that practice.

[@darleneshe3263]

The look on his face when Edith told him she was taking her accounts to another bank…she wiped that smug look right off his face🥰

[@unlimiteddj3908]

All $78

[@darleneshe3263]

@@unlimiteddj3908 😆😂🤣

[@elisemiller13]

@@unlimiteddj3908 Obviously not at all the point

[@shiftfocus1]

My mother loved this show. This is why.

[@234sdfify]

Very sad reality. Very accurately depicted. Sad.

[@brt5273]

I remember those days...my grandmother signed everything "Mrs. (Husband's full name)" When my grandad passed away she had to start from scratch with everything. When she had to do all the business of buying a car all on her own she was terrified. But she persevered and blossomed in a way I'd never seen.

[@shakey2634]

Jean Stapleton was perfect in that part and a massive talent.

[@barbrajones349]

He was right that she didn't qualify by herself but it was his sexist attitude that was the problem. He could have just said "you have to have your own income" instead of implying housework isn't work. I'm a stay at home mom and I know I couldn't just go out right now and qualify for a loan by myself (because I don't have a job) but I'll be darned if I would let someone talk to me like that! I loved it whenever Edith stood up for herself. Jean Stapleton was an absolute gem.

[@richardtomaszewski3569]

I agree but that's what made this episode so great. This was somewhat of an exaggeration to explicitly highlight the unsung hero that a housewife is and to put a spotlight on the sacrifices they make and how they are treated/perceived. I think the point was exactly to treat her, a relatable character loved by audiences, poorly to make people think and realize how important housewives are despite being taken for granted more than we would probably like to admit. Especially when you consider the times that was a pretty progressive move for the show to make.

[@lisaa7011]

Edith was so much like my Grandma it makes me miss her to watch.💖

[@stefanboster5728]

If only Jean & Caroll could know that their legacy and influence is eternal..

[@theeTJ]

When my mom was 17, this older woman she worked with showed her how to manage her own finances so she could establish her own credit. She told my mom to put her name on EVERYTHING and to always sign her own name instead of Mrs. (insert my dad’s name here). When my mom went to buy a car, the salesman asked my dad if he was signing and my dad chuckled like he was the man. Come to find out, my mom had good enough credit on her own to get her car! Marriage can be wonderful but always have your own credit and money.

[@SusanMarie3]

We’ve come a long way ladies!

[@charmng521]

Yes, and thank goodness!

[@inthedarkwoods2022]

Yep... Now you are working like a dog trying to make ends meet with 2 incomes. You had it made and didn't know it.

[@Kiki-D-Kimono]

No, we haven't.

[@11481]

Yes you have! Now you can be a wage slave and send your kids to be raised by someone else, like all the men!

[@gaden74]

And have an even longer way to go

[@OvertheGarage-wv1wn]

I'ts funny. We used to watch All in the Family every week. Then out of nowhere they start appearing on KZbin and this was one of the first episodes that popped in my mind, and here it is! I miss my parents I used to watch this with and I also miss Edith.

[@janejones5362]

Im 64. I grew UP with women making big family decisions. My gramma had to. My grandfather sucked with money, lol...AND she worked, hunted, helped haul wood. She taught me to track, while out hunting. I'm good at it. So I have no idea what "being the little woman" means. Taught by a redhead born in 1918. 😊

[@margarettickle9659]

Edith was a city woman back in the day.

[@HeronPoint2021]

My grandma did all the "negotiating" with horse teams sellers and old school Mennonites for trading, raising the turkeys for the Hotel in town on contract. Grandpa was lovely, but a push over!!

[@MelissaThompson432]

In the 70s, it was easier to live a cash existence; it was also easier to get a handshake loan, if you knew who to ask. I borrowed $1000 from a bank while in college in the early 80s, completely unsecured, no credit record, while not working. No co-signer.

[@RJ1999x]

The bank portrayed pretty accurately. First they demean you, making you feel unworthy, the joke is the teller or bank manager is a low paying job, and they usually have little power.

[@AB-jz9ns]

Back then things were different. The bank branch manager was doing more than today like making loan decisions. Today their responsibilities are diminished that’s why they don’t make too much money.

[@SirManfly]

@@AB-jz9ns Times were different on the 70's too, when a one income household would usually be enough to live off of and even get a house with, though Edith did say she worked part time 10 hours per week. Mom and Dad divorced in 1970 and Mom was forced to train and go to work being a divorced mom of 2 and having sole custody of the kids after being "just" a housewife for 10 years previously !

[@Jlind9335]

Yes, they always have to give your application to a manager. Like they can't do it themselves. They have no power at all.

[@roberthaworth8991]

All loan officers in my experience have been mere order-takers, having no discretion at all. They must follow their bank management’s guidelines and requirements, which are in turn those of the Federal underwriters. No matter what they say, if your loan goes against FDIC guidelines in ther slightest, they cannot help you.

[@christschool]

The starting salary for a teller in my area, which is in the South, is $22.5 an hour plus health insurance and a 401k. Starting salary for a branch manager is $80,000 a year.

[@markdavis7397]

A banker is a man who hands out umbrellas, but only when there are no clouds in the sky.

[@TheKurtsPlaceChannel]

Great video and I love the series too. They just don't make them like this anymore. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.

[@jeffy4368]

Hell im a guy and i do all the house work, yes it is a Full Time Job

[@alizahalon]

Thank you for saying so. The world needs more men who acknowledge that.

[@jeffy4368]

@@alizahalon its not tht i dont trust women to do the house work, i have OCD, but my girl appreciates the jobs tht i do that she usually does

[@dafightinfish2747]

If you have young children, I agree it's a full time job. Otherwise...nope. Modern conveniences have taken out 90% of what used to be housework. Sorry...the time you spend sitting in front of the television doesn't count as "work" just because there's a load of laundry in the machine or the Roomba is making it's rounds.

[@alizahalon]

@dafightinfish2747 Spend a week at work not taking a coffee break or any other break for that matter. Oh, and not everyone has a dishwasher that you plug in. Also, do you do all the shopping and run all the other errands? Do you do it all with migraines and/or cramps? Pills don't always work. You don't do all the housework. If you did, you would not have made your comment.

[@dafightinfish2747]

@@alizahalon Yes I do all the cooking and cleaning and yardwork etc, because I'm a single homeowner. I'll admit that I do find housework challenging, but that's only because I do it on top of the 55-60 hours at my retail job (retail doesn't give coffee breaks). So I will again make my claim that housework is most certainly not a full time job. You can keep a very clean home and make meals averaging no more than 2-2.5 hours of effort a day if you multitask effectively. Again, if you have young kids I will concede that's a different story.

[@dr.100purrscent5]

To nearly make someone like Edith almost cry is a true Sin. She was One of The Best! Shame on anyone who has an Edith in their life and not appreciate them. She would have an ideal person to do business with. That type of Customer is guaranteed to bring in Good Business with them. All they need is Quality Service & Support, and they literally will go around to all they know and meet to tell others how well they are being taken care of. Never miss a Customer like that by being ignorant and pigheaded. Their power to Bless your Business is Great, but if anyone hears how you mistreated them... Welp that has consequences too.

[@pianoreigns]

My Gram had to take a loan out every year for my Mom to get school clothes. She had the same job as the men but got a third the pay and had to pay interest on the loan because there was no husband to cosign. (He walked out on them.) If she had been paid fairly, my Mom would have grown up in a house instead of a walkup ,and my Gram.would not have been penniless in old age.

[@orlandobabe]

That bank guy is the reason people hate bank people.

[@CruceEntertainment]

Facts. He would find any reason to talk down to anyone and deny them a loan.

[@Isabella-nh5dm]

This was not about Edith being a housewife. This was about Edith not being treated in a manner that would have let her apply for a loan/credit without her husband's written approval. There is a very big difference. You didn't have to live it to be aware of it but, for those of us that did live it and fought hard to change that financial blockade, we will not forget how hard won the rights are that many now take for granted.

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

You also couldn't get a credit card unless you had a husband to be the primary.

[@Kiki-D-Kimono]

Thank you for fighting for us.

[@STho205]

However that's a concept of co-ownership of assets and Archie's paycheck....which is the case in divorce at the time....however the situation is she doesn't want to involve her financial partner (husband) who is the only real source of income. The banker really shouldn't care about anything but the ability to repay the loan. Earning $25 a week with 75 in savings would not do that. Now it would be unfair for Archie to file on their joint savings without her signature also...however he likely could.

[@STho205]

Trying to address urban realism I instead of the fantasy sitcoms of the previous decade...most the scripts of Norman Lear shows were pretty pat and contrived to make some social point, but very one sided....in a Perils of Pauline melodramatic way.

[@tinajeppesen5948]

You tell him Edith. I’m sure back in those days his mom did all that WORK to raise him too.

[@angelagueren7151]

That was the best show ever made

[@jonthomas8569]

Such a demeaning scene, but accurate. Jane Curtin has said when she was working on Saturday Night Live she couldn't get a credit card in her own name.

[@joannewalton3059]

Love Edith"s personality

[@lostintime8651]

This is so sad 😢. Glad things have changed.

[@BackWordsJane]

People need to remember that women weren't even allowed to get a credit card in their name untill 1974. It was either get it in your husband's name or not at all

[@SandraHernandez-mz7um]

Once upon a time, women were treated as helpless little children

[@ermagerdmuffins]

2:40 That look will rip your heart right out.

[@misterstock5602]

She'll learn like Jed Clampett did. "If you all do the same thing, I might as well go back to Mr. Drysdale."

[@elsasicolo9752]

Isn't she lovely, so sweet, and so innocent

[@rustyshackleford6035]

So Dumb about how the real world works that she doesn't even know that she doesn't qualify for a bank account

[@starrystarrynight9822]

I mean REAL work...that's JUST housework. Imagine having to deal with those attitudes!! Man, this made me want to cry for Edith and all the other ladies demeaned like that.

[@luckyx16]

Is it bad when you can remember watching this episode on tv as a child?

[@joanneplanarcrossroads4587]

This just shows how little some things have changed.

[@ddmck1972]

Good for Edith after the way that asshole demeaned her like that, not to mention slamming the door behind her.

[@KrisHughes]

I'd forgotten what a great actress she was.

[@MelissaThompson432]

I've done that sort of thing. I wonder if she was my inspiration and I just didn't realize it.... She was the heart of that show.

[@joeanderson8839]

The bank told me the same thing because I worked as a full-time musician. They said that playing music was not a real job.

[@siciliangirlgannotti5744]

Sweet Edith❤

[@sharonruff3837]

Pay attention today's feminists! In my 64 years on this planet, this is absolutely the truth. As recently as 1997 when I got divorced, I lost all my credit. Even though I had established credit prior to marriage in my own name, I worked full time and was raising two children. My ex & I had joint accounts that were paid off in the divorce. But when applying for credit in my name alone after, they declined my applications. 30 years of current accounts, gone. At 40 years old I had to get a co-signer to buy a car. That's discrimination ladies.

[@nettienewsom9506]

The guy playing the bank manager he looks like the guy who was on an episode of the Golden Girls. Ham Luschbaum

[@johnward6699]

There was a million mothers like Edith in those days... my mother was one of them

[@Arkelk2010]

How much did she want to borrow? Anyway, the manager was slick and insulting. Anyone should have withdrawn his or her business under those circumstances .

[@Isabella-nh5dm]

Lots of women would not be able to withdraw the money and close the accounts without their husband's signature of approval/consent. The worl today is not what existed in the past.

[@lesleywilcox]

And, far too many, would take us right back to these days.

[@rustyshackleford6035]

Actually we still do if you don't have a job you don't get a loan or a bank account so 🙄

[@joshuasmith6439]

@@rustyshackleford6035 you must be the long lost relative of the fictional banker here. She's meaning that women had no financial freedom because society expected them to be married and staying at home. Certain states like Texas and Florida are wanting a return to those times. If you take your head out of your behind and put it in a book you might learn something. Oh wait, sorry, forgot you can't do that anymore because they're banning all those books in Texas and Florida. Guess you can't fix your stupidity now.

[@madelinesanchez6609]

Years ago when I was trying to buy a car, I had to have my husband co-sign, even though I was a professional person and making more than him.

[@rustyshackleford6035]

Okay now that's messed up if you had a job and had money of your own then they should have done business with you alone where as in this skit she wants to open up a bank account for $75.00 and doesn't have a job or have anything to put up capital that's a completely different story but Edith was always a ditz

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

@@rustyshackleford6035 Those were the days. It didn't matter if you were making money or not. As a woman, you had to have your husband's approval to do anything financial. And there are many who would take us right back to those "good ol' days".

[@MissyBrowning-hf4oy]

Love Edith! Good honest worker!

[@lennypearl]

This scene aside, I love when she goes on a rampage against Archie saying she should go outside and paint the house!

[@integr8er66]

A note to all women, and men alike. Think long and hard before you take a job that doesn't pay a wage.

[@Kminer007]

65 years ago, only Montgomery ward would give my divorced women Mom a charge card

[@amierichan1428]

Funny how much the banker looks like a future Rob Reiner:-).

[@Driven2Beers]

Marty DiBergi!

[@amierichan1428]

@@Driven2Beers Yup:-D.

[@AP-gb3eh]

My mother had to keep my dead father’s name on the mortgage and credit,even though she paid the bills. I found out when he had been dead for 8 years, the way women were demeaned on a constant way in every aspect of their lives was stunning. I’m an old woman now and I’ve watched how things have been going in this country. There is a movement to degrade women again and to take away the independence they work for . Trust me no one would be happy with that. Wishing us ☮️

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

Young women have no idea that the rights, freedoms, and independence they enjoy were fought for by their mothers and grandmothers, and there are many who want to take those rights away.

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

That is ridiculous and almost certainly not the true reason why.

[@iris0072]

My mom has to pay the mortgage on her home right now that's kept in my father's name and he passed away in 2014. She is on the deed, but they tried to take her home by lying saying she wasn't on the deed. Trust me this still is a thing. We ended up getting lawyers involved and them admitting they never had the deed to begin with.

[@malachimccoy4271]

LOL❤❤❤ EDITH...

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Reached into his own pocket, "Ok, here's your $85.33."

[@flexor212000]

Lots of acting chops she displayed all stuffed into this 5 min scene. Looks very difficult but she did it perfectly.

[@brianarbenz1329]

At last - a _real_ issue brought up in a YT clip of All in The Family, not just Archie’s slurs and spurious claims about “cancel culture.” This is what the show was about. AITF’s greatness was its breaking the code that forbade discussion of social controversies in sitcoms.

[@mistressofthedark1476]

Sad thing is, woman are still being treated like they need a man, but it's just more subtle now. I've litterly filled out two job applications that asked if I was married, had children, planned to have children, about my cycle, and at both places I stood up and told them that those questions were actually illegal to ask now, and I was going to complain. They asked for their applications back, and I flipped them the bird, and took my proof with me. I'm a grandmother now, and I'll places, and I'll get a few people who'll ask " Don't you want to talk to your husband about it?" I tell them that I'm an adult, and I'm single, with an adult daughter, and I can think for myself, that I don't need anyone to make my decisions for me, unless I ask for their opinion. I applaud Edith for doing what she did, when I was 19, I chose to be a Military Wife, and when I was 20, I chose to be a housewife and Momma, and it is hard work. My daughter would start screaming with her stomach at 9-9:30pm, because she was allergic to every formula that we put her on, and my milk never came in, but a German Pharmacist recommended a hypoallergenic formula to my Momma and my daughter did great on it. She had constant ear infections, so I was constantly at the Pediatrician and ER, I wasn't eating, I wasn't sleeping, I was taking care of her and her father didn't help me at all. I'd beg him to watch her, so that I could take a shower, and take a nap for a few hours before she started crying with her little stomach, and he wouldn't do it. I passed out from exhaustion on my parents front door way, but I managed to push my daughter into my Momma's arms and yell " Take the baby!" before I went down. My Momma called for my Daddy to come get me, and they said that I slept for 5 days, only getting up to eat, take a shower, and I'd run to my daughter if she cried, and my Daddy would take me back to bed, but my ex husband didn't do one damn thing. He just wanted me home for sex. Being a housewife and a Momma to a sick child was hard work for a young girl, and I got divorced, and went to school that was a vacation, then when I went to work, that was a vacation too. We need to respect housewives and Mommas more, and I seriously think that they need to get paid with great benefits and everything else, plus a 401 K and so on, because it is a job, and some of don't get to punch out of it at the end of the day.

[@jet4415]

My MIL inherited millions but never worked outside the home. She went to the bank in the early 80’s to get a credit card and the wouldn’t give it to her because she didn’t work. She said fine, please move my money….there was a major kerfuffle and she got her credit card.

[@nancyleblanc9763]

People are missing the point of how he was degrading her by making it seem like being a housewife and doing housework is not as important as a man working. I had a relative who worked at the same business as husband for the same amount of years and they used the same bamk. She applied for a loan and they wouldn't give her one unless her husband cosigned. They told her it was their policy, women needed a man to cosign. This was on the 90's I believe. They both changed over to a different bank( and they had a lit more than $78.00). This was how a lot of banks and credit unions worked years ago.

[@drea4195]

That was in the 90s? Wow, I had no idea it was that bad so recently.

[@roberthaworth8991]

To be fair, in those days a married couple were considered the same legal person. Not like today when they can have separate legal-financial identities and track records. The bank would have been negligent not to ensure itself that her legal “other half” knew about the loan and consented to her undertaking a joint debt.

[@HeronPoint2021]

@@roberthaworth8991 Correct. I saw paperwork after dad died he had signed over to my brother cash amount claiming it was "his, and his alone" in another state, which is FRAUD. Dementia is a hell of a disease.

[@JanetsPlanetAMC]

Agree with everything said in original post. Just wanted to mention that this wasn’t the 90s. Rather this episode aired 11/19/1978. It was the eighth episode of the 9th and final season, titled “Edith Versus the Bank” [written by Mel Tolkin & Larry Rhine; directed by Paul Bogart]. Also, shoutout to John Harkins, who outstandingly played the misogynistic banker, Gordon Faraday. I knew he looked familiar, and it finally came to me: He played Ham Lushbough in “The Golden Girls” season 4 episode 3 titled ‘The One That Got Away.’ Something tells me Sophia Petrillo would have knocked this guy upside the head with her wicker purse!

[@MelissaThompson432]

Nancy's relative had issues in the 90s. The tv show was mainly in the 1970s.

[@tactikool4740]

This is why the show was good. It touched on so many issues that no one wanted to. Was it offensive at times yeah but real life is too.

[@ericinla65]

I HAVE AN AUNT IN-LAW. Her husband retired and died 2 years later. She got the house (still has a mortgage) and his small pension. She has zero credit. She never worked and her husband never put her on any bills, credit cards or even the mortgage. She couldn't even get a credit card now to buy a new water heater than went out 2 months ago. Her husband didn't do her any favors by keeping her so in the dark on the finances.

[@moochtheyarddogg9795]

It's the cannon aimed at Edith for me.

[@dougb8207]

Very sad. He never even asked how much she wanted to borrow, or how she would pay it back.

[@bjornjoseph]

Still needing husbands permission....

[@johnwilburn]

Times sure have changed.... now banks love to lend to people who have no means to repay.

[@Pbadome1]

After 50 years of blue collar working and still working, my body is wrecked, but I wouldn't trade it for what a woman does at home. My wife can visit her sister for 4 days, and I panic.

[@Teeveepicksures]

Kids NEED to understand just how recent this behavior was and how the worst people among us desperately want it to return.

[@stephaniespc]

Her kids were grown ..she'd have enjoyed work.I can't imagine being stuck home all day after kids are grown ..so glad I wasn't an adult back then

[@matthoffman4519]

i don't get how the bank is in the wrong. The guy was rude, but if it was a man coming in with same story the conversation would be the same. Housework, while important, just doesn't have an income and the bank is still a business and can't just give out a loan to someone with no income. The banker would clearly give a loan to a woman that had assets, or a full time income-based job. She might own the house with her husband, but even then they'd need his signature on the loan as it'd be a joint ownership.

[@The_Gallowglass]

He's not in the wrong except for saying a housewife's duties aren't important. They are very important. The thing is, you don't get paid for what you do around the house, so there's no way for you to repay a loan.

[@__1201]

​​@@The_GallowglassI get it, and I love all In the Family, but the scene is being portrayed as a womens' rights issue when that's really not the case. Obviously, the guy was rude, but she literally had no real collateral. Housework is of no value to anyone outside of Edith's and Archie's marriage. If anything, it's more of an issue with Archie not joint owning anything with her.

[@The_Gallowglass]

I agree. I don't think Archie had much of anything she could co-own anyway, save the house. I think he didn't even have a car. Edith said he had to take public transportation before. I think he works a second job as a cabbie@@__1201

[@richardknott4626]

The loan officer did not handle the situation well. He could have recognized Edith's naïveté, and instead of belittling her, explain sensitively that the bank can't make loans without some collateral guaranteeing payback. Help her realize that she doesn't have sufficient collateral on her own.

[@nassauguy48]

Agreed. This is like the Good Times episode when Michael claimed that aptitude tests were biased against non-whites. So his parents made up their own test with all sorts of inner city ghetto type questions and asked the principal to answer them. In reality, every inner city ghetto has its own lingo, and Blacks from other cities could not have answered those questions either.

[@lorakendall4940]

Good for you eadith. They where wrong‼️😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

[@julienielsen3746]

They only made sense. She didn't have a paying job.

[@jackiepuppet9289]

Bank was correct. Can’t just give out a loan with zero collateral

[@BeyondTigerMilk]

Her name is in the title, yet you still managed to misspell it.

[@BlackNightJack]

The man is correct. Being a housewife does not bring money into the home. He is a lending officer. Lending to people who earn money for a living and only those who earn enough stand a chance against a fair loan from a financial lender.

[@queenbunnyfoofoo6112]

Exactly. "Feminists" always omit that crucial part. Lenders don't give money to people who can't pay it back. A man with her income wouldn't get a loan either.

[@BlackNightJack]

@@queenbunnyfoofoo6112 Affirmative.

[@rp4658]

He could have been more tactful about it. Telling her she's "just a housewife" who doesn't do "real work" was not the way to go.

[@queenbunnyfoofoo6112]

@@rp4658 In a real interaction the guy would have been tactful. I saw these when they originally aired. It was well known Norman Lear was a liberal, and he had an agenda. When Good Times came out, Florida Evans was supposed to be a single mother. Esther Rolle refused to take the part unless Florida had a husband who lived in the household and was a strong positive role model. She got alot of flack for that, but eventually won.(edited for spelling).

[@shirleyminassian1547]

​@rp4658 I agree, you don't need to belittle someone, he could have just said her income from work wasn't enough...no tact whatsoever..

[@stevenzwolinski3047]

Greedy bank, i have a credit union account i keep for Cashing my paycheck into cash and paying gas and electric, never a big balance

[@melissavazquez2953]

I'm "just" a housewife.I take care of my home and everyone in it.This includes our nine children,my husband and our nine cats.I enjoy my work.I homeschool also.Anyone who says this isn't work is an absolute jerk-off.

[@truthiseverything9511]

Misogyny still going hard today.

[@hinkhall5291]

I don’t know why we see the banker as the bad guy. Most banks have a fiduciary responsibility to secure their loans by checking for income verification. Nobody is paying Edith a wage. If she overleveraged herself she could lose everything including her house. Who gives a shit about house wife stuff? She needs real collateral that can be converted to $$$. 🤷🏻‍♂️ If she got a loan she could not afford she’d have wished for such stringent requirements. Yes the guy was sexist but that is besides the point.

[@selkertazumi9660]

Women, always have your own.

[@irkhanbasc]

I’m not sure if the bank was wrong in this case. Edith wasn’t denied the loan because she was a woman or a homemaker. She was denied because she didn’t have enough income or assets to qualify for the loan. The bank officer could have explained himself better, and he comes across as a jerk, but from a banking standpoint his decision was perfectly sound and reasonable.

[@The_Gallowglass]

They're not wrong. It is his attitude that is wrong.

[@edschultheis9537]

Edith may have been denied a loan based on qualifications. But at that time she would likely have been denied a loan even if she was qualified on her own. It wasn't until 1974, when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act passed, that women in the U.S. were granted the right to open a bank account on their own. Technically, women won the right to open a bank account in the 1960s, but many banks still refused to let women do so without a signature from their husbands. This act was signed into law by President Gerald Ford.

[@DavidGlen62]

It was a woman

[@roberthaworth8991]

This was typical heavy-handed point-making from the show’s writer-producer, Norman Lear.