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Dr. Glaucomflecken

Dr. Glaucomflecken

Жыл бұрын

Drama at Elsevier

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@kilodeltaeight
@kilodeltaeight Жыл бұрын
Painfully accurate, but entirely true. The fact all medical journals aren’t open access and non profit is criminal.
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the fact that *any* academic journal is for profit is criminal, what with none of the researchers who actually produce the research being paid a single cent of that profit
@apexmemator7239
@apexmemator7239 Жыл бұрын
Is that a fat trans woman in your profile..?🥰🏳️‍⚧️
@NotContinuum
@NotContinuum Жыл бұрын
I'm ok with journals costing some money, like Time or other magazines. It's when they take research that we have already paid for through taxes or knowledge in general and want to charge an ungodly amount for it.
@bosstowndynamics5488
@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын
@@NotContinuum But there in lies the rub - *all* of the research published in these journals is paid for by sources of funding completely external to the journal - a mix of public funding directly, not for profits, universities (in turn partially publically funded) and third party privately funded research. Time magazine justifies a for profit model in part because they pay their own writers to write for them.
@NotContinuum
@NotContinuum Жыл бұрын
@@bosstowndynamics5488 It's reasonable to charge something since the publisher has to pay for editors, website developers, printers, etc. In effect, there's a contract between the researcher who wants to get their results peer reviewed and publicly disseminated and the publisher who wants to make some money. What has gotten crazy is how the publisher has a humongous amount of power in this relationship and can take advantage of everyone around them. That needs to stop. Peer reviewing is generally considered an essential part of the process which journals provide. Research that has not been peer reviewed is usually looked upon as suspect. Research that has been published on websites that don't charge don't always have peer reviewing and so are looked down upon. This whole thing is just too complex, but I think we can all agree that getting access to research costs way too much. BTW, I like your name.
@ozboz1995
@ozboz1995 Жыл бұрын
We need an Elsevier vs united health showdown, with the CEOs out-eviling each other
@miragegrey4177
@miragegrey4177 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this!!
@FarenHalven
@FarenHalven Жыл бұрын
Omg yes! Puh-leese?!?❤❤
@BFedie518
@BFedie518 Жыл бұрын
By its very nature health insurance is more evil.
@moongoddess1978
@moongoddess1978 Жыл бұрын
Yess Jimothy AND Tristopher 😂
@flapjack2958
@flapjack2958 Жыл бұрын
United Health win as they actively condemn people to death
@DenisJava
@DenisJava Жыл бұрын
Was thrilled when I heard that all those editors quit! And I thought of you. Now here you are confirming my faith in your commitment to the cause.
@aa-tx7th
@aa-tx7th Жыл бұрын
upload and seed research literature torrents
@vegcharli
@vegcharli Жыл бұрын
Ooo? What is their journal going to be called?
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Жыл бұрын
​@@vegcharli "Sick? Help!"
@MrEgofreak
@MrEgofreak Жыл бұрын
Wait, this actually happened? Wild, if it did. Please link the story here!
@grandmasgopnik9642
@grandmasgopnik9642 Жыл бұрын
I know I was like OH THE HUMANITY 😭😭😭
@glitchysquid1137
@glitchysquid1137 Жыл бұрын
Publishing company, "They're just gonna make knowledge free???" Everyone, "Yes, as a matter of fact there has been institutions dedicated to free information, it's called a library." Pushing company, (Gasps in loss revenue)
@aa-tx7th
@aa-tx7th Жыл бұрын
upload and seed research literature torrents
@youkofoxy
@youkofoxy Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, one of them has sued and own against the internet archive. What they did do? leased digital copies for 2 weeks, one digital copy for one physical copy. Even better, the physical copy is locked away during the leasing time.
@renhaiyoutube
@renhaiyoutube Жыл бұрын
Sci-hub
@helenadurst5993
@helenadurst5993 Жыл бұрын
Now I know why my professor wont let me publish in any Elsevier journal
@jamesburton1050
@jamesburton1050 Жыл бұрын
Are they an open journal?
@kyrab7914
@kyrab7914 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesburton1050not tristopher/boss was labeled elsevier so... Technically yes.
@SolidSnake59
@SolidSnake59 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesburton1050 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA No. " The company earned £942 million in profit with an adjusted operating margin of 37% in 2018" - Wiki
@hx5525
@hx5525 Жыл бұрын
Where did u publish?
@jamesburton1050
@jamesburton1050 Жыл бұрын
@@SolidSnake59 ok, so Elsevier _is_ one of the bad ones then. Was confused. Thanks
@RosaryOfSpies
@RosaryOfSpies Жыл бұрын
I'm part of a group of researchers who started our own open access non-profit journal that we're all volunteering to create haha. All medical, science and social science journals should be open access! This was awesome and so, so painfully true. Laughed at the impact factor and 'I didn't say it was a good dream' 😂
@Za3chik
@Za3chik Жыл бұрын
That's so great!! 🙌 would you like to share the journal info? I'd live to go down research rabbit holes 😁
@abduladam6869
@abduladam6869 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link, I am undergraduate reading in psychology, it would help a lot after reading all of yours and your colleagues journals 😅
@WolfLykaios
@WolfLykaios Жыл бұрын
As someone not in the medical profession, I want to say thank you to all of the editors that are doing this and allowing the knowledge be freely accessible as I would never have access to it otherwise.
@zygnard4938
@zygnard4938 Жыл бұрын
I thanks to the doc for doing this public journals have evolved into money monsters making it impossible for researchers to advance quickly on their job. I hope that this movement could be a base for the next generations of researches.
@moistschmeckles400
@moistschmeckles400 Жыл бұрын
use punctuations dude i had to read that 5 times
@lainet3379
@lainet3379 Жыл бұрын
@@moistschmeckles400 maybe, just maybe English is not their first language. Or, they were in a hurry. Or, multitudes of other things that were far more important than your desire for perfect punctuation. Why even comment, if just to be ugly?
@zygnard4938
@zygnard4938 Жыл бұрын
@@moistschmeckles400 Sorry, I did the text in a rush :c.
@warpstoneenjoyer8293
@warpstoneenjoyer8293 Жыл бұрын
The fault also lies with academics for consistently valuing work published in these journals over any other
@TakenTook
@TakenTook Жыл бұрын
It's like everything else in medicine where we've allowed a middleman to pull profits from the situation - insurance companies, etc. Only this specific issue spills over to scientific research and academics in general, and obviously extends beyond the borders of the United States. We are horrible at unionizing in this line of work. The vast majority of us just want to take care of our patients and mind our own business. But even with unionization we would not have all the tools that other unions are able to use, because going on strike could harm our patients. So, even when we all know something is completely ridiculous and exploitative, it's really difficult to get it changed.
@HarryPotterFreak623
@HarryPotterFreak623 Жыл бұрын
That bit ended and I immediately got hit with an ad starting with, "Dreaming of becoming a doctor?" 😂😅😂
@tobiaspape
@tobiaspape Жыл бұрын
Proud to serve an diamond open access journal. (I.e. no fees for neither authors nor readers)
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese Жыл бұрын
Well don't leave us hanging, what's the journal? :P
@mrsamandabernier
@mrsamandabernier Жыл бұрын
Name of it??
@blueninja012
@blueninja012 Жыл бұрын
just leaving a comment so I get notified
@MikuruChan123
@MikuruChan123 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the name too 👀
@sophiedowney1077
@sophiedowney1077 Жыл бұрын
I too would like to know the journal name
@andreamiller6200
@andreamiller6200 Жыл бұрын
This hurts my science-loving heart but the truth is so well depicted!
@ilajoie3
@ilajoie3 Жыл бұрын
It's good to see that even Elsevier acknowledges that Jonathan is the best and has a framed picture of him in their offices
@whatshappening708
@whatshappening708 Жыл бұрын
I love the videos about the journals and I've learned so much about the things doctors go through thanks to your channel. Keep it up and thank you!
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd Жыл бұрын
It’s not just doctors. It’s all scientific fields. So much is kept behind obscene paywalls these days that you’re better off emailing the researcher/author and asking them for a copy.
@laraliao9525
@laraliao9525 Жыл бұрын
not just doctor, students wanna learn the latest research can’t look at the papers either
@danielrobillard0407
@danielrobillard0407 Жыл бұрын
Engineering too it sickens me, lost 5 yr of my life in research for this bs
@katierasburn9571
@katierasburn9571 Жыл бұрын
@@laraliao9525 yes oh my god, trying to write a dissertation when your research is locked behind paywalls is so difficult
@txjayhwk
@txjayhwk Жыл бұрын
Attitudes like the “Academic Dream” he described are one of many reasons Im so glad I got out of academia after my PhD. Another painfully accurate skit from Dr. G
@lewisroach8723
@lewisroach8723 Жыл бұрын
This sounds similar to stuff like changing a few words and pictures in a 400 page manual for a subject to force students to spend several hundred on the up to date version each year on the off chance that the change is actually relevant, preventing passing down of second hand subject manuals, to say nothing of the academic journals you need to use for citation in essays. You have to buy dozens of books for a literature course yet that somehow seems more accessible.
@ardimento
@ardimento Жыл бұрын
It’s many of the same companies. Wiley, Elsevier, Springer, etc.
@davidschwartz8125
@davidschwartz8125 Жыл бұрын
At this time my students use a digital text book that is a fairly low cost rental that is included in their course fee, yes digital textbooks have their issues. And only have to spend more money if they want the hard copy. Fortunately for us the edition changes generally are about 5-10 years apart which mean updates are very real and substantial. But this is just to say that these issues are not academia wide and can be mitigated by the professors to a degree.
@nairsheasterling9457
@nairsheasterling9457 Жыл бұрын
@@davidschwartz8125 My community college uses almost exclusively open-source, free-to-use curriculum. I have legitimately had semesters where my book fees were $0 and it's a game-changer.
@davidschwartz8125
@davidschwartz8125 8 ай бұрын
@@nairsheasterling9457 I would love to use only open source material but there are two big issues with this: 1. The open source texts in my field are not the approach I take. So I would then need to spend hours trying to make this work out of material that doesn't work for me. 2. As a massively underpaid adjunct having that backend LMS system to grade my tests and work for me makes this more worth my time since I really do not want to do all that myself.
@dianaburn2474
@dianaburn2474 Жыл бұрын
As a researcher, I appreciate this video (cries)
@izzybeth
@izzybeth Жыл бұрын
"it's a billion-dollar corporation, somebody's gotta get exploited." the unvarnished truth
@corgiw7281
@corgiw7281 Жыл бұрын
Excellently scathing. You're like The Onion when you do these bits, only very specifically focussed.
@NorseForse
@NorseForse Жыл бұрын
YAAASSSS! Yes yes yes yes… a thousand times YAASSSS!! I read all about the editors quitting en masse and my FIRST thought was “I hope Dr Glauc makes a video about this!” Then my SECOND thought was… “CONGRATS TO ALL THE JOURNAL EDITORS QUITTING *AND* starting their OWN non-profit publication!!! 👊🎉👍👊 That’s the BIGGEST step in the right direction for academic publishing *ever.* Keep. 👏F**king. 👏Going.👏
@DesertJoshB
@DesertJoshB Жыл бұрын
Plus, if they get rid of the pay wall, regular people might start settling arguments with journal articles as opposed to their favorite polarized news outlet. Can’t have that!
@Visitkarte
@Visitkarte Жыл бұрын
Well such “arguments” might end up being “I did my research and figured out the Earth is flat” type.
@SpartacusSF
@SpartacusSF Жыл бұрын
A very succinct summary of the academic “dream”
@hounslowparks2469
@hounslowparks2469 Жыл бұрын
I've just sent this to my brother who works for one of the major publishing companies.
@LittleMissTotoro
@LittleMissTotoro Жыл бұрын
Yes thank you!! It is ridiculous and I am so angry!! I (my uni really) have to pay them 3000 dollars to publish MY work, which has been reviewed for FREE by colleagues. But if I don't I won't get my PhD. Grrrrrrrrrr
@Maggies87
@Maggies87 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Happy Mother’s Day to Lady G. and all the moms out there.
@haggielady
@haggielady Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sija906
@sija906 Жыл бұрын
So true! Not only for medicine.
@Wandering_Chemist
@Wandering_Chemist Жыл бұрын
Damn…as a lowly PhD candidate going into my second defense this hits too hard brother lol 😂
@setyourmindpositive
@setyourmindpositive Жыл бұрын
Such a real problem! It is disgusting what these journals can do and this system is not serving our oath and values! So much looking forward to having non profit open access publishing opportunities! Thank you for bringing this up!
@afropoppette
@afropoppette Жыл бұрын
Makes me think of that saying, "exposure doesn't pay the bills". Rather, the paywall doesn't pay the student loans or the medical bills, etc. Good on you and like-minded professionals for exposing the exploiters!!!
@KaitCervi
@KaitCervi Жыл бұрын
These videos have TOO MUCH truth 😢
@DeepakGuzzula
@DeepakGuzzula Жыл бұрын
I love how he mulled over the impact factor before deciding if it was worth his time.
@spidrawebster
@spidrawebster Жыл бұрын
Long live the editorial revolution.
@hwway4488
@hwway4488 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for shining a light on these practices
@rianariana446
@rianariana446 Жыл бұрын
Its shocking. 😮😮 Thanks for educating us through this channel of yours ,Dr G, we surely learn so much from all your stories.
@chellybub
@chellybub Жыл бұрын
Savage as always doctor, savage as always... How very poignant
@ohmaigod2
@ohmaigod2 Жыл бұрын
Just you watch, they'll start having the editors sign non-compete forms when they get hired in.
@docgammycat
@docgammycat Жыл бұрын
"I didn't say it was a good dream." Years ago, I spent a short time working in the Development Office (i.e., fundraising) of an Ivy League university. The pettiness! I ran just about screaming back to a corporate job. I left that, too, to go into medicine; but, I actually have some fond memories of the time I spent in law + banking. Academia? None.
@Ciasteczkowy
@Ciasteczkowy Жыл бұрын
The sad part is that it is difficult for new journal to get any impact factor. Many reaserchers are obligated to have their publications in journals with quite high impact factor, and that means that their publications won't go to new journal, and that prevents that new journal from getting impact factor. So unless you have impact factor you can't get impact factor. It is passible to break this loop, but it is quite difficult. And that would require much more people than just editors
@adritars5640
@adritars5640 Жыл бұрын
My doc sister showed me your videos a while ago but i didn't catch on at the time. I've been binge watching all your videos the last week. I'm not in medicine but I still find them so hilarious! I was in a genetics PhD- programme - until the 2nd year when it was this main factor that got me depressed. I exited with a masters and left for corporate job haha! I refused to be a slave of academia. The disenguinity made me lose interest in the passion that I had. I still read journals here and there since I still love the field. PS I have no idea why I dig the neurologist so much when he's such a narc 😅
@MaryJohanna
@MaryJohanna Жыл бұрын
University professors have at times already used Sci Hub according to a NPR story about this topic some time ago. Read the story about Aaron Schwartz to see how long the fight for open access has been going on.
@janinawaz4596
@janinawaz4596 Жыл бұрын
And the US.federal government supported the robber barons by threatening Aaron Schwartz with life in prison… for making publicly funded research available to the public… and his university didn't even want to see him prosecuted.
@amyx231
@amyx231 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, after college I found myself painfully paywalled. I used to read the top new medical publications for like half a hour every morning, nowadays I brush over my emails with titles (cause clicking through doesn’t work anymore) and pretend I know what that’s about. Pretend I don’t care that I can’t read the actual studies. 😢. At least the intros are usually available for free! Makes research harder though.
@gretchentropy
@gretchentropy 6 ай бұрын
Talk to your public librarian! They might have access to the journal or have a way to get ahold of the articles you want
@tc2241
@tc2241 Жыл бұрын
In the age of digital goods and services, I’m surprised publishers still hold such an iron grip
@csrjjsmp
@csrjjsmp Жыл бұрын
Oh don’t worry if any of the open journals get big enough they will just buy it.
@mele4827
@mele4827 Жыл бұрын
As a non-college student, I can't access articles anymore, and they cost a ridiculous amount. I enjoy learning, and these let me keep up with the studies about my health stuff...if I can read them.
@shanicemupamombe5703
@shanicemupamombe5703 Жыл бұрын
I stand with the editors!
@Th0rodin
@Th0rodin Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your continued advocacy about the problems in academic publishing!
@theotherredmeat
@theotherredmeat Жыл бұрын
Starting my non academic job next year. Looking forward to earning more than my senior attendings in academics while in my first year out of fellowship! And no publishing games required. Can make free educational materials on my own time.
@satviklodha5219
@satviklodha5219 Жыл бұрын
I seriously don't understand how this crime is not punished.
@davidy22
@davidy22 Жыл бұрын
Arxiv is free, basically a youtube for journals, and it's served communities like machine learning and math fantastically. You can read the entirety of all the developments in the AI space for free, what's stopping the medical community from packing up shop and moving to arxiv?
@ericawentz2734
@ericawentz2734 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, Tristopher!
@paxielle
@paxielle Жыл бұрын
Now I don't feel so bad downloading some of their textbooks for free...
@davidrobertson3544
@davidrobertson3544 Жыл бұрын
I won't pay for Osmosis because it's now owned by Elsevier
@sumeragichan
@sumeragichan Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't. You really shouldn't.
@paxielle
@paxielle Жыл бұрын
@@sumeragichan no but how shitty is it that to gain knowledge and to have a good education you have to be rich?? That's what all this leads to.
@sumeragichan
@sumeragichan Жыл бұрын
As someone who had to deal with Elsevier's online resources for nursing classes..... I'm not surprised and good on those editors!
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Жыл бұрын
One advantage of being a researcher in an obscure subdiscipline that nobody gives a shit about: there's no money to be made holding our work hostage, so it's mostly open access.
@werbnaright5012
@werbnaright5012 Жыл бұрын
I hope every other extortative business fails this spectacularly in the future.
@deeps6979
@deeps6979 Жыл бұрын
As more universities and institutions commit to self-publishing through digital commons, I hope we'll see publishing companies will finally change.
@SabrinaPhynn
@SabrinaPhynn Жыл бұрын
😅 Tristopher!! Yet another member of the family...
@fnors2
@fnors2 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad my fields of research were in math and computer security. It's a lot more sensible than medicine, that's for sure. A lot of the important stuff there is freely available. And most of the "pay-walled" articles can be found for free on the professor's websites or on specific archives. Sometimes it's even the longer version of the paper that got trimmed for publication. And if all that fails, everyone is more than happy to send you a full copy of their articles if you just send them an email.
@tf3655
@tf3655 Жыл бұрын
The big problem is that we don't even pay once, we pay twice as a society. First to fund the research plus the publication fees. Second we pay to get access to the research we paid in the first place. There are paper my group published where I have no access to with my university account.
@EdjieboaNova
@EdjieboaNova Жыл бұрын
Word. Love from Dallas, Texas 💙
@chriskarpetas
@chriskarpetas Жыл бұрын
Nightmare also falls into the "dream" category.
@magnusbruce4051
@magnusbruce4051 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine started up a peer reviewed journal a few years ago where it's free to publish, free to access and authors retain their copyright under the "diamond open access" model. The minimal running costs (mainly server fees and a subscription that lets them create DOIs) were covered by a university library's publishing arm. I can't find the figure now, but I understand the total running costs were in the region of a few hundred Euros a year. So long as the standards for publication remain high, I think that is the best model for everyone.
@gigiskitties499
@gigiskitties499 Жыл бұрын
Wow !! Just wow!! Had no idea this was going on 😡
@SolidSnake59
@SolidSnake59 Жыл бұрын
This is the best "revealing " video you have made. You have touched very important subject.
@mitikozuki5295
@mitikozuki5295 Жыл бұрын
This hurts my very soul as a researcher to hear this put this way and it be so true.
@spicesmiles
@spicesmiles Жыл бұрын
Oh goodness!... And print! 💯 I agree - accurate Yes, to no longer paying Journals and everything that goes with this antiquated system. Journals might of had leverage pre-internet to spread the word... PRE-INTERNET 👀 Peer-review can be done without the pricetag. Possibly funded as a part of the completion of the research project.
@SaraGrapes
@SaraGrapes Жыл бұрын
Just started my PhD in Industrial Engineering this year. Elsevier affects all sciences! Thanks for spreading the word!
@godspeedsumitbiswas
@godspeedsumitbiswas Жыл бұрын
As a doctor i feel exploited.
@fyzxnerd
@fyzxnerd Жыл бұрын
Great to hear it, we need more of this everywhere!
@jordankazakov3068
@jordankazakov3068 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Finally said from someone with influence. Bravo! I hope all of the editors leave in all the journals. It’s time for free access to the research we do.
@jads9296
@jads9296 Жыл бұрын
Spot on as usual Doc! I was a reviewer and then an editor for over 15 years. I quit six years ago. It’s worse now. I have friends who are “retiring early” now.
@sriharimenon7502
@sriharimenon7502 Жыл бұрын
Doctoral student here. The number 1 reason we publish in journals held by Francis&Taylor and Elsevier is simple: these are deemed high impact who publish quality research. The reason reviewers do what they do *for free* is also simple: to gatekeep the quality of the very journals they publish in so that they can "prove" to the NSF/NIH/NASA why their lab deserves funding: "because we publish in said high-quality journal"
@gagaplex
@gagaplex Жыл бұрын
Good on those editors. 👍
@emb7854
@emb7854 Жыл бұрын
I feel like we've never been closer than we are right now
@tfrtrouble
@tfrtrouble Жыл бұрын
Publishers suck (I know I used to be one of those staff editors). But "nonprofit and open access" journals also charge pretty high author publication charges. The fact is that a lot of work goes into managing peer review, dealing with complaints, misconduct accusations etc, and quite a lot of smaller journals actually make a loss and are financially supported by their higher-impact "sister journals". The system is definitely broken but it's a lot more complicated that "stop the greedy publishers". There is sooooo much stuff being submitted for publication nowadays and sooooo much of it is complete trash, even with the journals acting as gatekeepers to an extent. I've yet to hear a simple and workable solution, but I reckon any change needs to start with how researchers are funded (hint: it shouldn't be through lazily totting up the impact factors of the journals they've published in recently).
@Testuser582
@Testuser582 Жыл бұрын
If there is so much work, how they are making so much profit? May be they should start some profit sharing with authors and reviewers
@tfrtrouble
@tfrtrouble Жыл бұрын
@@Testuser582 Well my preference would be for them to charge less (make less profit) in the first place. That makes makes much more sense than their taking too much money from authors and readers and then giving it back to selected authors and readers. The latter would also be hard to apply fairly. What about bad reviewers who delay and delay and then write one useless line saying "this is a bad paper". How is it decided when a review is adequate? And if authors get paid for acceptance, can they sue if they feel unfairly rejected? Can the journals sue them if the paper has to be retracted due to misconduct? I'm not saying it can't/shouldn't be done, but it isn't simple and would require a bunch of new systems and assessment criteria. Limiting the APCs (i.e. taking less money from researchers to start with) would be way simpler. But that alone wouldn't fix things. Like I said, the non-profit publishers like PLOS also charge really high APCs (and don't pay authors/reviewers). The problems with the current system are many and complex, and a lot of the proposed solutions just aren't sufficiently thought through.
@tfrtrouble
@tfrtrouble Жыл бұрын
@@Testuser582 My point with "a lot of work" wasn't that publishers don't charge too much or make too much profit (personally I think they do). But a lot of scientists have this naïve idea that publishing does itself, and think there should be no charge at all because "the authors and reviewers do all the work". I used to think the same. They think that all authors are honest and submit good-quality papers to appropriate journals and reviewers reply right away to accept/decline and usually agree and then submit the review on time, and the publishers just sit there and collect the profit. There is a huge amount of work that goes into a) ensuring the reviewers aren't' too overloaded with rubbish by doing a proper pre-screening, b) balancing that with ensuring authors get a fair assessment, c) managing the review process so that authors don't wait months and months for a decision (which often involves inviting 10+ reviewers and sending floods of reminders), and d) dealing with complaints, queries, unethical behaviour etc (the cases that get through the net are just the tip of the iceberg). Again, I think publishers suck (there is a reason I left), but the editorial teams typically work very hard (for not great pay in badly understaffed teams) to ensure fairness and quality.
@Simplesstff
@Simplesstff Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for speaking out about this topic. It is really crucial for students and researchers to be able to read and publish as many research papers without loosing their kidneys 😢🙏
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv Жыл бұрын
The good news is now the government says that any research that uses federal money has to be free to access.
@Za3chik
@Za3chik Жыл бұрын
This speaks to my heart 😍 Access to research studies would be so marvelous! I'm confused about the money aspect, though.... I get that research is paid by grants & philanthropic organizations. What about the journal staff (like editors)? What's the ethical revenue flow, that isn't these icky paywalls & extortion of researchers? 😵‍💫
@nuttynut4u
@nuttynut4u Жыл бұрын
Wow…this is spot on. Sadly. You’re brilliant doc - important message delivered with a side of savage satire. Well done and wickedly funny!!!
@melissahauke8682
@melissahauke8682 Жыл бұрын
I'm also upset about medical journals being exclusive to people in the field paying them. I plan to go to medical school and always was science knowledge hungry person so it's upsetting they're gatekeeping. Also I already got my bachelor's degree and it would be so much helpful while writing my dissertation to be able to look stuff up in such journals instead of standing on my head and figuring how to obtain resources.
@s__p
@s__p Жыл бұрын
I still remember your previous video on author's publishing in journals and not getting paid... That was the first video i saw of your channel and subscribed... This video is appropriate followup to it...
@juergenhaessinger4518
@juergenhaessinger4518 Жыл бұрын
I don't even remotely work in the medical field and I'd count this as a victory
@theodorstaffas7348
@theodorstaffas7348 Жыл бұрын
Ok this hits close to my soul. I am doing a PhD (in physics) and recently published my first article in a open access journal. It cost 2000 USD to publish.
@jacilynbrainard7481
@jacilynbrainard7481 Жыл бұрын
Published research is already painfully biased toward positive results rather than negative ones. Why would I want pay $3000 to publish a study with a negative result?!
@nursejax9152
@nursejax9152 Жыл бұрын
From a nursing standpoint, one of the major contributing factors to the knowledge - action gap is likely a lack of access to free credible evidence based practice research. If you want to find the best way to be the best nurse you can be you have to pay through the nose for it first, and still get paid just as if you had never done this. We should be incentivizing excellence in nursing, not paywalling it.
@Ruby_V_
@Ruby_V_ Жыл бұрын
it's so important that you point out how a lot of this is baked into the culture of academia itself.
@Just1Nora
@Just1Nora Жыл бұрын
Are the mixed-up names "Jimothy" and "Tristopher" given because bosses can't be bothered to remember the proper names of their "peons?"
@ItsAsparageese
@ItsAsparageese Жыл бұрын
I suspect it's more that they're amusing and also make the "beaten-down employees who try to be voices of reason at various evil health-related companies but aren't healthcare providers" characters distinguishable and matching-with-each-other. But your take is a good additional take lol all artistic interpretation is valid!
@deanw4663
@deanw4663 Жыл бұрын
Looking at you, Elsevier! 😂😂
@longforgotten4823
@longforgotten4823 Жыл бұрын
As my mentor in academic history, said, “I got $375 or so in royalties for my book publications. Meanwhile, children in Romania have my book in PDF that have been scanned and distributed for free in Eastern Europe.”
@xmachina1
@xmachina1 Жыл бұрын
You are the Saint of human knowledge. Thank you so much for doing this.
@sudharmansitaraman8377
@sudharmansitaraman8377 Жыл бұрын
It's not just the open access scoundrels who charge authors, though. Some charge at both ends. The "Article Processing Fees" that these ghouls charge authours for f*** only knows what after keeping it hidden for the longest time possible is just disgusting. As a 20 year old medical student who just got into publishing (in my country a medical degree is an undergraduate degree), this bait and switch gets me more often than I care to admit. Oh, and shoutout to Elsevier for making Embase and Scopus not free like PubMed. Oh and also, my first ever publication (in World Neurosurgery)? I can't read my own paper for free after a certain timeframe.
@Richardiii2
@Richardiii2 Жыл бұрын
I just started reading an article on this and.... $30 paywall lol.
@RRW359
@RRW359 Жыл бұрын
Someone should do a study on how hard it is to access medical journals without going theough a paywall and how many people come up with stupid health ideas after "doing their own research".
@GeneralKIB
@GeneralKIB Жыл бұрын
I work for an academic publisher. This is an accurate summation. Essentially they want to try and make deals with governments or consortiums of institutions so that they'll pay the open access fees for their researchers (up to a point). The problem being... this just means they're using tax dollars that fund research. It's an unspoken understanding: that they don't need to exist. The reason so much junk science exists, the reasons fraud will continue to accelerate, is because they perpetuate a system that incentivizes publishing research more than the value of the science itself. Large publishers do not need to exist. They are desperate to pretend they provide something, but the services they provide need to be provided only because they invented inequity and exploitation in order to exist in the first place. Open access fees are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist unless the problem is that freely accessible research is not profitable.
@chromab7713
@chromab7713 Жыл бұрын
"Well, I didn't say it was a good dream"...ok, fair enough, point taken. ...that actually explains a lot about certain...popular "Dreams"
@hiimcanadian
@hiimcanadian Жыл бұрын
I remember when we were learning about diabetes, our lecturer got a friend and a patient who has diabetes to talk to us about his experiences managing his own condition. He did a lot of research into his condition, and it’s not just the patient information leaflets but academic journals as well. He wasn’t a university employee so he didn’t have open access to a lot of the journals that required a subscription but he read everything he could lay his finger on and he did a great job. His diabetes control was excellent. I often think about that patient when I myself encounter difficulties getting access to a journal article that I think will be relevant to my clinical query. Luckily for me I could just ask the hospital librarian to find it for me but what about the general public 😢
@rachaelp8998
@rachaelp8998 Жыл бұрын
I've worked in the medical industry as a managing admin and a patient advocate. I am floored by this. I had no idea. Where have I been? Don't answer that...
@annacobb1140
@annacobb1140 Жыл бұрын
Wooooah. I thought this was a bit, but I looked it up and I'm shocked. I had no idea what it takes to be up to date in medicine. I'm just amazed it's appalling. I hope something good comes from this, because people leaving a job in numbers is a bold thing to do and admirable. Good luck to them all!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@milossimicsimo
@milossimicsimo Жыл бұрын
Nailed It! I felt there injustice on my own skin.This video made me laugh, but treatment from Elsevier did not 🤣.
@itstruckmeeveryday
@itstruckmeeveryday Жыл бұрын
No knowledge should ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER be behind a paywall. Knowledge should always be free.
@theonlyoneandtruelorddoofu2769
@theonlyoneandtruelorddoofu2769 Жыл бұрын
No matter how many people talk about it, make videos about it or bring these issues of big companies breaking the laws, exploiting others and endangering lives and dooming people for death for their own profit things won't change. They just take it in the ear and out the other. Someone has to do something about it, but no one will. So things won't change. People need to unite and challenge them, take them down, by force if necessary. It's the only way
@MonotoneTim
@MonotoneTim 3 ай бұрын
That impact factor joke is incredible and so, so accurate.
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