eDRUMin Review

This might be one of the most interesting pieces of electronic drum gear I've tried all year. This is my review of the Audiofront eDRUMin. It's a trigger interface the size of a deck of cards that has ALOT of tricks up its sleeve.
(disclaimer: Audiofront sent me this free of charge, but they are not sponsoring this video. All opinions are my own and they had no say over this video)
Features:
1. Hot Spot Suppression
2. Positional Sensing
3. Edge Sense (lets you have 2 zones on a one piezo pad, works on a case by case basis)
4. Works with pretty much any pad or cymbal
5. Cymbal Choke (and even assign a midi note to it if you feel like it) (ableton hates aftertouch messages so that’s why this feature was included)
6. Hi-Hat Controller input
7. Classic Midi, and USB Midi
8. Allows you to use ONE cable to control 3 zone Roland ride cymbals
Incredibly Small
9. Clips onto your drum rack or cymbal stand with included adapter
10. You can use multiple eDRUMin devices at the same time
11. IOS Support
Cons:
1. 3D Printed (understandable because this is a niche product)
2. Power adapter isn’t included in my package (I never needed it though)
3. Beginner electronic drummers will probably find the program hard to learn.
4. The included USB cable is kinda short
Something To Note: If you already have a large audio interface, you could just buy a copy of DSP Trigger, you’ll get similar functionality for $39. The Main advantage of buying eDRUMin, is that you get 5 inputs in a TINY TINY form factor that clips onto stands or drum racks.
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[@65Drums]

Part 2 of the review is live: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2jSamyeg7KcfrM

[@inlasttonowhere4459]

No Justin, you're the MVP. You deserve the Edrum king. You've been on for a while & never gave up. Always searching, creating content for us. Thank you.

[@65Drums]

Thanks so much! There are plenty of other people that have been in the industry longer than me, but I'm glad that you appreciate what I'm attempting to do with this channel

[@kashresurrected]

Can’t agree more

[@PedroPetracco]

Your conteent slaps! You're a good man. And thorough. Many thanks!

[@peteshifter]

Thank you for this review. It made me buy an eDrumin10 and I like it very much! It's a huge upgrade for my old Yamaha DTXpress 3!

[@EasyHeat]

Just revisited this, and I must say... Great content as always Justin. I really do wish AudioFront had caught on more as a product & had available stock on their 10 input model. I am however going to look at their DSP TRIGGER software, and at possibly going ahead and getting their 4 input eDrumin unit for a minimalist mobile iMac powered live kit for a possible 80's "darkwave" inspired side project I'm pondering. Imagine something like Joy DIvision/New Order meets NIN, Kyuss, and Sabbath?! Yeah, crazy... HAha! Love the channel! Cheers!

[@DopamineOverload]

How the HELL did I miss this video.

[@482jpsquared]

It's funny how Justin refers to "the people at Audiofront" and "they". Audiofront is one guy. Yup. Everything from the hardware to software, technical support, marketing, customer satisfaction - all of it - is ONE person, Rob. There are no other people in the "company". Hat's off to Rob.

[@482jpsquared]

@fartpoobox ohyeah "Funny" was a figure of speech. I was just informing the readers here that it's really just ONE guy, which is amazing, don't you think?

[@Polentaccio]

Man this sounds like a game changer for people who want to rig up their L80 cymbals with one piezo and get the choke feature.

[@andymaxwell23]

This looks awesome I am wondering what the maximum number of 'things' I could attach to this is? For example, using splitters could I attach...(Cymbals are diy with piezos drums are using 2box triggit)? Input 1: Single zone crash + rack tom Input 2: Single zone ride + Floor tom Input 3: Kick + hi hat (with edgesense for 2 zones) Input 4: Snare Pedal input: Hi hat controller.

[@remaharman2598]

Hi Justin thank you for this it really looks like the eDRUMin kills those modules But you say it has a ton of inputs I only can see four and are these mono or stereo my question is how many pads can you run on one box for example Kick , dual snare , and one mono tom is that it full and I guess you would have to buy a few linked to make a full kit ? Have I got it all wrong?

[@jonathanbott1144]

2 zones with one peizo is cool. I only realised the other day that Roland positional sensing can work with single peizo pads too (like PD80, PD100 single zone, rubber pads), they have been doing this since the TD-10

[@NS-dd9ou]

Hi Justin, I have an Alesis Trigger IO and while it does the job I have always wondered how much better ia TD10 or newer let's say TD17 would perform against it (always using it as a triggering device, not for use of internal sounds). Now that I found the eDRUMin I don't know if I should go for something like this and forget of exploring any TD module for replacement of the Alesis Trigger IO. In what place would you put the eDRUMin in terms of triggering capabilities? Is there a real improvement of what the Trigger IO can achieve?. Thanks

[@Stoovey24]

I've got a Roland TD-8 module and I just ordered the eDRUMin4 so I can add four dual trigger mesh head pads, and still use all the inputs on the module.

[@dcschaaf]

Hey Justin, just curious if you know of any alternative comparable product as the wait time on these are quite extensive at this point. Thanks so much for your feedback Derek.

[@Pauluz_The_Web_Gnome]

Is it compatible with the Millenium SMP-850 e-drum triggers? Thanks

[@damohsyoutube]

Hello friend. I have a question about this. Can i use just one of these for 4 drums and 3 cymbals (7input)? Meaning that can i split 4 to 8 inputs? Thanks in advance.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

i am thinking eDRUMin 4 now... but i can just set it, an forget it, and run into hardware; Right?

[@douglaslassance]

Does this work with ddrum triggers?

[@ericduvauchelle3582]

Question, if you're not recording do you need an AUDIO INTERFACE?

[@morten1]

For drums like this you don't need audio interface at all. It goes via usb

[@djsoren4418]

what apps that use you sir

[@stevelk1329]

Sorry if someone else has mentioned this but it seems like the pd-140ds may not work so well with this device.

[@65Drums]

Yes of course, none of the Roland digital pads work with trigger interfaces because they use usb.

[@stevelk1329]

@@65Drums yes but I wasn't sure if there was digital going over those other cables. It is possible you know. Stupid idea I had was if even if digital arrived at the E DRUMin it could get it ready for my td-20. Silly idea.

[@davidmcmillan4715]

A ton of inputs?

[@DJFalkoHannover]

+1 for the Windows bashing :-D

[@DopamineOverload]

Hi Justin, any reason this video is unlisted? Thanks! Also, latency is a non-issue for Windows and Mac, as long as you use the right driver type (ASIO for Windows, and whatever equivalent for Mac). I've used Windows exclusively for years and never have any latency issues. A 20-year old PCI interface called the M-Audio Delta 44 (or 66) with an OMNI I/O breakout box can give me as low as 2.0ms... which is superb for e-drum playing, with Superior 3. Latency is definitely not better on a Mac. It's just that you've got to know how to set your stuff. ASIO always gives the lowest latency, for Windows users, and even the free Asio4All driver kicks a lot of butt. Just an FYI. Thanks man!

[@yeahtuna]

Great review. I just wanted to add that all the processing is done on the device itself. The control application is only needed for adjusting settings.

[@Clairvoyant81]

Hey there! Are there any plans for a bigger version of this? This is pretty much exactly what I want at a reasonable price, but I'd really want a lot more inputs.

[@65Drums]

Thanks for the clarification :) I will share the info in a pinned comment at the top.

[@landonp629]

@@Clairvoyant81 You can always just use multiple eDrumIn's tied to your computer. There *might* be some cross-talk issues, but only if you aren't properly isolating your pads and cymbals.

[@Clairvoyant81]

@@landonp629 Yeah, but as I said in another post: For an average e-drum kit, you're going to need 3 eDrumIns.... that's 3 USB connections, a lot of switching between different eDrumIns in the software during setup and potential cross-talk issues for $450. If you want some room for expansion, which would be where this actually gets better than just getting a small Roland module, you're at $600 and 4 of these things for a fairly messy solution at that point. Basiicaly: Sure, I can use multiple eDrumIns, but it would just be a lot easier to have a solution with enough inputs for an average full kit and a bit of expansion options.

[@landonp629]

@@Clairvoyant81 I cannot see a case where you'd ever need more than two of them for any 6 peice standard setup. You could do a basic 4 piece on a single module alone. On two units, i can power: 4 toms, 1 kick, 1 snare, 3 crash, 1 ride, 1 china and 1 splash. Not saying its for everyone, and would certainly like a single unit better. But the two units would actually allow for easier cable management on my rack. Just depends on what you need I suppose.

[@ScottSheltons]

Great timing! I've got two coming and looking forward to getting them setup.

[@65Drums]

A couple of notes: 1. All trigger processing is done in the eDRUMin box, so it doesn't add notable latency. The program is just to let you change settings. 2. This of course isn't a module it's a trigger interface. No internal sounds, all that comes from your computer. 3. My setup to get sounds: is Reaper with EZdrummer 2, but any drum plugin will work. 4. The eDRUMin obviously is not supposed to replace an entire drum module. Its an add on to expand your current drum set, or for people like hybrid drummers that only need a couple of pads in the first place. Kind of like the people that would buy a Roland tm2. Part 2 of this review is live: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2jSamyeg7KcfrM

[@CarcPazu]

So if I get this right: You plug it in your USB port, then you use the software to calibrate let's say your kick, once it's done, you close the software and Pro Tools should see it as a USB controller and it becomes a kick trigger?

[@Mr.8.7.8USCH]

Thanx sooo much for all the links, I've needed some as alternatives to mine. Hava Wonderful Holiday Season.

[@miker5233]

Happy New Year's Justin thank you for another wonderful video

[@mastergf560]

Thanks for sharing! I had watched one of your videos about drum modules and was interested in Megadrum but this one seems much more user friendly.

[@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums]

a great review and interesting product, Justin!

[@65Drums]

Thanks for watching John :)

[@wollsmoth69]

This little guy is definitely interesting. Very informational as always, man. Nice job.

[@stephaneparage2530]

LITTLE ? :)

[@wollsmoth69]

Stephane Parage Yes, the product being reviewed is little.

[@stephaneparage2530]

@@wollsmoth69 :) i thought it was about Justin ... ;)

[@wollsmoth69]

Stephane Parage that would be quite the opposite lol he’s a giant

[@rhythmantic]

Interesting product and I like it for all the features you do and may purchase it. Great video production and I’m curious how you do it, including screenshots and gear used. Thank you Justin and I did watch all the way through. 👍

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

Very cool review and it is a neat interface!!

[@65Drums]

Thanks Zax! I agree it's a cool piece of tech

[@miker5233]

Really cool thank you for the videos Justin

[@65Drums]

Thanks Mike

[@Jellybeantiger]

Fantastic review.

[@65Drums]

Thanks dude!

[@troublesomecorsair]

This is cool! I bet I could USB this into the back of my Korg Kronos and play the kits with electronic drum hardware.

[@Falasi4]

Cool. This may be the way I go to get some extra pads into my hybrid setup. Dedicated shaker, extra cymbals, etc...

[@electronicdrums2817]

Nice review

[@65Drums]

Thanks!

[@ericcamburn2480]

Thanks for this review Justin. I'd be curious if you might be able to get close to the NFUZd set up (minus the sounds) by combining an eDRUMin with Alternate Mode Hybripads

[@tiltedlab]

HEy! I like this product! Thanks for sharing....on another note, have you tried locating your RODE overhead, just out of site of the camera? Might help when you're turning your head "away"

[@reeread]

Thank you a really good video

[@shawnlothamer5201]

Curious if this would allow for better transition of open to close hihats midi'd to a drum module? and does it work without being hooked to a computer (ie store settings internally)?

[@danmayo9182]

Super interesting! Justin, do you think it might be possible to use a USB hub to use two of these devices at the same time and double the inputs to 8?

[@nicksherman88]

So with the Roland TD17KVX i do not have separate line out ports for each individual pad and cymbal, how would i use this device? And if possible with 1 line out how would the device know what pad i am hitting in real time

[@doug_I_do_not_consent]

Hi Justin, although Apple computers have slightly lower latency out of the box any Intel i3, i5 or i7 equipped Windows 10 PC (put an SSD in if not so equipped) is close enough not to matter. The real trick is choosing the right audio interface like you did with the Focusrite Scarlett. Instead of using Reaper as your host try downloading Brad Robinson's Cantabile. He has a guide called "Glitch Free" on how to turn off all power saving settings. Once that is done you have a professional grade "VST machine" that pros go on tour with and musicians rely on for every day gigs. The forum over there is fantastic. EDIT - did some reading on vdrums about round trip latency. That would be an interesting topic down the road. Will try Oblique to try to figure out what the actual RTL is with eDRUMin -> Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 -> Superior Drummer 2 -> UMC202HD USB audio interface.

[@smollah]

Hi, have you ever reviewed the Black Hawk Hybrid drum kit?

[@HereIsmarcus]

Hey Justin. Have you ever considered reviewing the megadrum module ? ( I had one and it pissed me off so much that I literally threw it away, but I'm aware that may have been my problem )

[@65Drums]

Hey Marcus :) I've heard that Megadrum is very difficult to work with. At the moment I'm not trying to review it, not many people have requested a video on it. At least not yet

[@thedrumdoctor]

65 Drums I’ll second the request!

[@jeremyh814]

Random question, but what kind of desk is that holding your laptop and audio interface? Thanks.

[@rankintjr]

Great video again Justin. This just popped into my head after seeing your roc n soc throne. Do you use the normal one or the extended one? I know you’re taller than me and I’m 6’4”, just curious on what size you would recommend with the Roland TD-17 and also an acoustic drum set?

[@65Drums]

I love my drum throne. The roc-n-soc is just the right height for me. I use it on acoustic and electronic sets. Including the TD17

[@rankintjr]

65 Drums thanks for the information man! Do you know if you have the standard height version or the extended height version? Extended height the min height is 24 inches - max height 30 inches. Standard is 18 inches - 24 inches.

[@65Drums]

@@rankintjr I just bought the airLift version

[@rankintjr]

65 Drums thanks again man! Keep up the great video appreciate all the reviews, tips and tricks!

[@gregwilliams2764]

I own a TM-2. Couldn’t that do the same thing for me? Thanks Justin

[@scottharris7222]

What I am unsure of is what is making the sounds. Ok so here is the FAQ that answered the questions I had regarding latency and sound sources. The software is only the the trigger engine it needs to send data to a drummer software like BFD or Addictive Drums for example. www.audiofront.net/eDrumIn.php

[@lassecapel388]

Any chance this software might be used with other trigger devices. like megadrum?

[@65Drums]

That's actually the only way you can use it. This doesn't have internal sounds. All sounds are from your software

[@lassecapel388]

@@65Drums i was actually refering to the eDRUMin software. With a megadrum trigger device.

[@DigitalDamnation]

I wonder if this works wth Melodics.

[@DouglasLippi]

What is generating the sounds? The hardware, the software, or VST plugins?

[@65Drums]

Watch all the way to the end, I show you all of that 👍

[@DouglasLippi]

@@65Drums I did. I'm tired so must've missed it. Interesting product and thanks for introducing it. I'd never heard of it before.

[@65Drums]

@@DouglasLippi it's the very last 30 seconds of video, the bonus footage

[@DouglasLippi]

@@65Drums ok I'll watch it again! There was one part where your mic was in the frame. As an actor I focused in on that lol! So I'll have to watch that again to get the content! I love your videos, so please don't take that the wrong way!

[@PowerDrumKit]

Douglas Lippi - Neither the device, nor its software generates sound, but only converts the pedal and pad hits to MIDI and acts as a USB MIDI controller. So all the sounds have to come from a VST or AU or AAX instrument running in your DAW.

[@Clairvoyant81]

- I doubt the eDrumIn software adds any kind of latency. As far as I see, that's just a configuration tool that changes the settings of the controller. I'd assume you could just quick the configuration tool after you're done and still use the device in your drum software. If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if the latency with this is pretty good, as it's basically a configurable trigger to MIDI device. - Seems that the configuration software could use a "beginner mode", offering some presets for widely used pads and cut-down settings to make things easier. That said, this seems to be a fairly small company and a good preset library like that that actually gives good results for all "supported" pads is a lot of work. - The one thing that keeps me from ordering this is: Too few inputs on one device. Sure, I can use multiple eDrumIns and still get a decent price, but: According to the manual, the crosstalk filter doesn't work between different devices (makes sense). Also, each one of them uses a USB port, obviously... for my current, medium-sized set (3 toms, snare, bass, hi-hat, 2 crash, ride) I'd already need 10 inputs plus the hi-hat pedal, i.e. 3 of these. _If_ they work on a USB hub, that's not too much of an issue, but that's another unknown I'd rather not have to deal with.

[@65Drums]

Hey dude, 1. you are correct it does not add much latency. All processing is done on the device. The program is just for changing settings. That latency speech I made at the end of the video was just to tell people to get the right computer hardware. 2. I agree with you on the beginner mode 3. Yeah this isn't made to replace a whole module. It's just an add on, or expansion device. For the people that would buy something like a Roland TM2 module.

[@TJ-eq6dl]

Yamaha dtx are 3 zone with one cable last 13 years+ this is why there still the best e kit out there

[@purpledc1]

I guess if the only thing you are taking into account is the 3 zones. Start factoring any other information in and the argument starts losing steam quick.

[@TJ-eq6dl]

I should have said this is 1 of many reasons why the Yamaha dtx is still the best e kittodate

[@williamclontz1479]

Ive been looking for something like this for so long Its also pretty cool too because if its all computer based that probably means automatic software updates

[@yeahtuna]

Indeed. I'll be adding and refining features over time.

[@DrMackSplackem]

This has the best UI for the DIY pad designer for sure. If only I had something this good 8 years ago when it mattered.

[@objoyful989]

What Roland does with multiple Piezos still will be processed on a software level. I guess you meant that this is under the surface, and the user has no interface to play around with.

[@davo0593]

Where can you buy this?

[@65Drums]

From the AudioFront website

[@Xander_Paradise]

Yuhhh

[@crazy8sdrums]

$150 USD for this chintzy product is such a bloated price. The DDrum DDTi is $170 new and has 3x the trigger inputs and much more power. Both the Alesis and DDrum models can be found used for even less.

[@GoulartGH]

most of the price is the software, I think

[@yeahtuna]

Indeed. If you don't want 3-way triggering, positional sensing, or support for Yamaha gear then by all means get a DDTi.

[@gregwilliams2764]

64 go ? Wow!

[@65Drums]

It hurt my wallet lol but I love it

[@luca-nc7xw]

First