Edvard Grieg ‒ Piano Sonata, Op.7

Edvard Grieg (1843 - 1907), Piano Sonata, Op.7 (1865)
Performed by Einar Steen-Nøkleberg
00:00 - No. 1 Allegro moderato
04:31 - No. 2 Andante molto
08:58 - No. 3 Alla Menuetto, ma poco più lento
12:22 - No. Finale: Molto allegro
Early on in his career, before discovering his talents for miniatures, songs, and incidental music, Edvard Grieg tried his hand at more traditional concert music in its then-rigidly codified styles and forms. Indeed, the list of Grieg's almost entirely unplayed early compositions reads like a text of essential concert music varieties: a symphony, some chamber sonatas, an abandoned string quartet, a piano concerto. The first of all these standard concert works to be completed was the Sonata for piano in E minor, Op. 7 (1865, revised 1887), a work so obscure that one can dig through book after book without catching a single reference to it and plunder shelf after shelf without finding either a copy or a recording.
And yet, for all that obscurity -- and despite Grieg's admitted discomfort with such works -- the Piano Sonata in E minor is, in its own way, quite an appealing work, like a colorful and clever, but admittedly underdeveloped child. The first of its four movements, Allegro moderato, rides forth on a vital theme that seems to want to plumb the very depths of the earth; if the figurations that surround it and the manner in which it is built up over the course of the movement seem somewhat juvenile, the same might be said of many a more-famous sonata composer's earliest efforts. The Andante molto second movement has just a touch of the same time-stands-still magic that graces the slow movement of the composer's Piano Concerto (written some three years later). The third movement -- Alla minuetto, ma poco più lento -- may be uncomfortably heavy-handed, but its peculiar Nordic flavor and odd dissonances at least add novelty. The finale gallops forth in 6/8 meter and has a chorale-like second subject which, during the recapitulation, achieves the happy E major in which the sonata closes.

[@palmerplantagenet]

Horowitz, as a young student, played a lot of Grieg's music. It's been said that he loved Grieg's music greatly. It's music to please the soul, not necessarily to astound an audience. That could be why Horowitz stopped performing Grieg. Photos of Edvard Grieg always show a calm and pleasing countenance. To compose such music as "At Your Feet", or "Notturno", or "Phantom" (three of my favorites), Grieg absolutely had to be of a higher consciousness. I bow to Grieg from my heart.

[@philip.stigaard]

His Notturno is so freaking beautiful. It really tells a story

[@vijinanadu1962]

I deem him as a Norwegian Brahms, as Ravel a French Brahms, Rachmaninoff Russian Brahms, Shostakovich Soviet Beethoven

[@Garrett_Rowland]

“Artists like Bach and Beethoven erected churches and temples on the heights. I only wanted to build dwellings for men in which they might feel happy and at home” - Edvard Grieg

[@mustysheep3977]

Grieg was not very respected in the past in some places. Rubinstein used to dismiss Grieg in the past because of was what he was taught as a student. He later came to love it though of course. He speaks in a video about it if you want to hear it from the source.

[@davidrehak3539]

Edvard Grieg:e-moll Zongoraszonáta Op.7 1.Allegro moderato 00:05 2.Andante molto - L'istesso tempo 04:33 3. Alla menuetto,ma poco piú lento 08:58 4.Finálé:Molto allegro 12:23 Einar Steen-Nøkleberg-zongora

[@davidrehak3539]

Köszönöm az értékelést

[@davidrehak3539]

Köszönöm az értékelést

[@Dylonely42]

Grieg’s melodies are beautiful. Simple yet incredibly marvelous.

[@SpencerMusicSchool]

As a concert pianist, I have always loved performing Grieg's Concerto but haven't performed the sonata yet. I'm in love with it. Gorgeous writing.

[@dracorex6876]

This is one of my favourite Grieg compositions. This Sonata sounds like a fusion of Mendelssohn and Chopin with also that Scandinavian touch.

[@Alex-iu7dl]

Looks more like Schumann to me

[@dracorex6876]

@@Alex-iu7dl There's some Schumann mixed in, though that is more obvious in the Piano Concerto with the opening motif.

[@renatoargh]

I just visited Troldhaugen and attended to a lunchtime concert where the pianist played the 2nd movement of this sonata. I am carefully listening to it now and I love it so much already

[@mrbrianmccarthy]

WHY am i just now hearing this? WONDERFUL! Bravo Grieg!

[@Daves_PianoAndPipes]

The second movement is absolutely stunning...

[@thecanadianpianist4500]

I thought Grieg was a great composer and now I think he's better then I thought because of this piece

[@sethjeppson5680]

You should listen to his piano concerto. That will probably make you appreciate him even more

[@igotwrenchedlizst7389]

The Canadian pianist YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me to! Even more than Greg’s piano concerto in A minor! Which used to be my favorite.....

[@foreverraining1522]

He wasn't as good as Chopin. Very octave and thirds heavy.

[@pantayanithi360]

@@foreverraining1522 What’s wrong with having octaves and thirds?

[@iseeu-fp9po]

@@foreverraining1522 What does that even mean?

[@stevehinnenkamp5625]

The great Norwegian composer reached his height in the concrrto. I fear his creativity was hampered by sonata form trying to win recognition. The Grieg Concetto will stand out like Everest forever. It is a pinnacle of inspired melody from first note to last. I bow before Edward Grieg for his immortal concerto. Though it it is well constructed, melody, the goddess of music, reigns supreme.

[@pqiojsqdklnads3861]

you need to go listen to his ballade in g minor, it is one of the most profound works for piano, in my opinion. I recommend Richard Farrell’s interpretation.

[@segmentsAndCurves]

@@pqiojsqdklnads3861 Yes, the ballade is very much underrated, the harmony and variations are just ingenious.

[@hollowcliche9500]

I'm learning this for a recital. It's beautiful but certainly more difficult than I had intended my rep to be!

[@truefalcon6884]

Bit late to the party, but yeah same here, its been a bit harder than i thought it as gunna be

[@hollowcliche9500]

@@truefalcon6884 Aww hang in there! It actually has been one of my favorite pieces. I can still play it because I spent so long with slow practice.

[@szymonkowalski3236]

It's very hard due to interpretation. I have to agree with you that it is much harder than on the first look

[@singatune]

In 1961 I played this in public recital by memory. Hard now to believe I played it. Arthritic in hands ended my music career. Good luck.it is tough. Remember to use your shoulders and body on those Fortes! In one section I forgot where I was and I did a little improvisation and then it came back to me and I continued. I about gave my instructor heart attack but she said she didn't think anyone notice and complimented me on my improvising. 😅

[@adrianapartida5888]

0:41 you can slightly hear the hall of the moautin king

[@joannefurlong82]

You mean 'mountain' . Lol. Ya , I agree!

[@adrianapartida5888]

@@joannefurlong82 yeah thx

[@igotwrenchedlizst7389]

Yes I can!

[@GlynGlynn]

VERY romantic playing

[@piotrkulczewski706]

I didnt know that einstein was a composer

[@cococo4939]

But he is a violinist

[@wilh3lmmusic]

69th like

[@tenozeros1096]

it is true that Grieg and Einstein look pretty similiar and both were geniuses

[@maryramirez2561]

Mark Twain

[@danal81]

@@tenozeros1096 They don’t look similar.

[@gerardbegni2806]

A youth - and unique - beautiful sonata of Grieg for piano solo. Grieg will mainly write miniatures during his career. The influence of Schumann is obvious here. In turn, Grieg will greatly influence SInding, who wrote a lot of albums in the style of Grieg (among which the very famous "Rustles of Spring" and an unique sonata in H, clearly also under Liszt's influence, a too much underrated masterwork masterwork in the genre of sonatas in one movement. A concert with the Grieg and Sinding sonatas would be a great event.

[@ruramikael]

and Gade.....

[@raymondgood2359]

i hear brahms who encouraged grieg and i believe also gave money to the struggling composer. brahms often did this with composers , often anonymously.

[@ruramikael]

@@raymondgood2359 Liszt supported Grieg, don't know about Brahms.

[@officialmozart]

I love the little references to peer gynte and his first piano concerto

[@billmarrufo]

@Eric Ness. I was about to ask if someone noticed some early Scriabin touch but it could very well be Rach sound. I would recommend listening to Gould´s interpretation of this sonata. At first it tends to sound excessively slow but if you hear it several times and then compare to other´s you will find it is an authentic jewel of emotion and romanticism.

[@christianvennemann9008]

I think Rachmaninoff was inspired by Grieg in some of his compositions. The first movement of this sonata appears to have given some inspiration for Rach's 4th Moment musicaux, also in E minor.

[@franciscofragoeiro5229]

I absolutely hate Gould's recording, it's motionless, it has no tension. He turns this tragic sonata into a meaningless nocturne

[@petfama4211]

Rachmaninoff was essentially inspired by two people in his life: Tchaikovsky and Grieg. He even modeled his first piano concerto on Grieg’s. In addition i think Grieg was the first composer to use the post-romantic harmonic language Rachmaninoff became famous for.

[@billmarrufo]

Petfama Thanks for the input!

[@calebhu6383]

No Scriabin or Rachmaninov. It's all Schumann.

[@CarlosLima-oe7wn]

Grieg transcende ! Sua obra, rica em beleza e cor o eleva a um dos 10 maiores compositores de todos os tempos !

[@annaruffer1303]

WOOOOOOOW, I'M PLAYING IT , THATS AMAZING! I DIDNT EVEN KNOW, THAT IT WILL GET GREATER

[@galielkarmi995]

I'm learning the first part right now

[@user-lz7ys1kx3z]

피아노 전공생이엿는데 쇼팽베토벤은 어느정도면 따라하기가 가능하지만 그리그는 쉬워보여도 곡이해도랑 테크닉 박자 다 완벽해야 제대로 소리가들리는곡 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 음표하나하나가 엄청중요한곡

[@kaleidoscopio5]

Grieg himself recorded the full third movement and partially the fourth. And I think his interpretation is the one for anybody who wants to play this sonata.

[@toothlesstoe]

Yes, because composers' interpretations of their own music are automatically the best simply because they are the composers. I know you didn't actually imply this, but I'm just speaking in terms of my instinctive reaction.

[@ninjaassassin27]

@@toothlesstoe Best or worst are not terms to lightly throw around. I'd say instead that self-performances offer significant and important perspective. For example, Mompou's recordings.

[@seanfogarty5559]

This is hardly an underdeveloped piece of music, as per the description. A bit like Chopin's I feel that by pure Sonata terms it's only a little unsuccessful, but as a work of art it's fantastic.

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

Chopin's sonatas are easy compared to this Grieg sonata, this Sonata is only surpassed by Czerny's sonata Op.7 and unquestionably ppr the Sonata Op.268, any Czerny sonata is extremely difficult

[@seanfogarty5559]

@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Well, as a pianist I can tell you that the Chopin sonatas are technically harder than this, definitely. The Czerny's... some of them aren't so bad. I'd say they're about the same level as this.

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

@@seanfogarty5559 I am also a pianist and the Chopin plants are much easier than the Czerny Sonatas, also the Chopin etudes are easier than Czerny Op.756, Op.365, Op., 400, Op.692

[@seanfogarty5559]

@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Alright. Agreed to disagree. 👍

[@user-fo1lj3of7y]

My favorite grieg's work

[@user-ru8vy1uz7c]

Bravo super music sonata

[@AVIDEOGAL]

WOW, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS ONE, I'M SURPRISED TO STILL BE LEARNING NEW BIG COLOSSAL PIECES BY MY FAVORITE COMPOSERS, THANKS TO YOU TUBE - THANKS FOR THE UPLOAD !!! (REMINDED ME OF BRAHMS FOR SOME REASON) GRIEG'S PIANO CONCERTO IN A MINOR IS STILL MY FAVORITE, EVEN OVER LISZT, ALKAN AND CHOPIN..........(THE HOLY TRINITY OF PIANO)

[@abritishguy8351]

AND BECAUSE I'M USING CAPLOCKS MY OPINIONS MATTER!!

[@LoCoZappers]

SAME (at least for the Holy Piano Trinity)

[@adriatorras8077]

Schumann sometimes is over Liszt and Alkan, musically and artistic, the extramusical ideas. And Brahms is better than Liszt, Liszt is sometimes good, but not like Brahms or Chopin, that always punch.

[@raymondgood2359]

schumann is also above lszt-way above

[@nicb4589]

If there were a holy trinity for piano, Alkan would not be a member

[@yelyzavetakravchenko3169]

Thank you for your work - its played so so good! True pleasure!

[@tomlin1312]

喜愛古典音樂的樂友都一定知道葛利格的鋼琴協奏曲是「家喻戶曉」級的名曲,但我現在才驚覺葛利格是很早期的作曲家😅 ! 可說是被歸劃到國民樂派這件事所誤導(還是記錯了國民樂派的時期 !? ) ! 這首奏鳴曲是首次聆賞,我感覺葛利格很擅長用單音就描寫出發射到天空的光芒,我真的很喜歡這首曲子的末樂章 !

[@olavtryggvason1194]

Griegs piano sonata op 7 in e minor was strongly influenced by Niels W Gades piano sonata in the same key op 53. Grieg met Gade in Copenhagen as a fatherly friend and asked for some advice how to do to become famous as a composer. Gade told Grieg "write a symphony", and Grieg did so by writing his symphony in c minor which was strongly influenced by Gades symphony Nr 1 in exactly the same key. But Grieg imitated also Gades piano sonata, which Gade had dedicated to Franz Liszt. Griegs piano sonata is much harsher than that by Gade, which shows strong influences from Gades teacher Mendelssohn-Bartholdy. Grieg wanted to honour his master Gade but at the same time mark the distance between the more raw and crude Norwegian sound and the mild Danish sound influenced from German romanticism.

[@snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454]

Thanks for uploading!

[@stacia6678]

0:41 in the hall of the mountain king

[@jakubchojnacki1851]

great sonata!

[@joylo5471]

luv the third movement

[@ianpaternoster1396]

Brilliant.

[@MrGer2295]

Beautiful ! Thank you so much :)

[@tarikeld11]

It sounds like a mix of Schubert and Chopin. A really great sonata

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

Schubert Is good composer, Chopin is Overrated! By the way Czerny Sonates are more Hard And Beautiful than Chopin Sonates

[@tarikeld11]

@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 It's your opinion but not a fact. You can't say "Czerny sonatas are harder and more beautuful" because it's just what you think. In my opinion Mozart is overrated.

[@Whatismusic123]

@@tarikeld11 all opinions, unrelated to fact. a discussion reaking of idiocy.

[@renan1033zinho]

Wow, Nice sonata

[@bbubang]

듣기에 짱 좋다ㅠㅠ 지금 치는디 엄청 어려버

[@MrInterestingthings]

This would be better as a concerto . 2nd mov. really wants to be a s ymphonic sketch. Really fetching with a lotta charm it has!Some of the piano writing is concertante while others are orchestral scale. I'm amazed that anyone could love this music . It's also so short it feels like a sonatina -(The second movement wants to be aims to say something important but...)it has very modest ambition very suited to young people making music at home .Funny how Beethoven op.90 is small even his op.2 Sonatas are small but feel big . The ideas here are small suitedto a Salon it wouldn't be onstage material just like his Ballade . They feel informal . I could never say a Chopin Ballade is informal no matter how personal or heroic the material gets it feels world revelatory. The concerto makes me feel Grieg actually had something to say . Everytime i hear the Schumann violin concerto or the DvorAK VIOLIN CONCERTOor the dull piano conceerto even richter played itas did Firkusny. i SAY how many sides we all have and composers show this profoundly even in their works that don't become big items in repertory

[@jimmyfigueras4476]

I just discovered this, I love it

[@Dichweed]

Best part is when it ends. Not the ending, just when it stops.

[@lamsheeper]

0:45 just making some time stamps to reference while practicing lol 0:52 0:55 1:11 1:52 3:25

[@johnwhite8732]

sher schön :)

[@dacoconutnut9503]

"In the Hall of the Mountain King" somehow would be influenced by the 1st movement of this sonata

[@memedreams8558]

Yeah at 0:34 I can hear it

[@grumpyoldpianistplus]

As a suggestion to the previous, listen to the composer on KZbin! He, above everybody, should know what he had in his mind!!!

[@fulviopolce9785]

Gran bella sonata giovanile,ovviamente influenzata dai masters (qui Schumann).

[@mariapap8962]

Beautiful work!

[@CarmenReyes-em9np]

Exelente 🇮🇷🥇🖐️

[@cute_ddori]

1:01 제2주제 1:40 발전부 2:36 재현부 4:09 종결부

[@pseudo_klavier]

2nd movement reminds me of his piano concerto

[@grumpyoldpianistplus]

Most of the comments are about the genius of Grieg, but almsot nothing about the performer's conception of the work, probably because they have no idea of taste in music; they probably have no way of judging one performance from another, only that they recognise the work and like it or not. So, here goes: the minuet has a proviso: ma poco piu lento, a LITTLE more slowly than a minuet, a graceful DANCE. This sounded as if the dancers had hob-nail boots, or wooden clogs, slowing them down to almost a crawl! The first movement had so many different speeds that the listener did not know what to expect next, making the performance as a series of practise-from points! The slow movement was the most successful, but the louder sections sounded too loud rather than having a richer tone. The last movement was obviously where the pianist wanted to show how fast he could play with as much volume he could master: a series of gabbled notes, even though very accurate, not as we would imagine Grieg would have played the piano! Listen to the recording of Grieg playing the last movement of this sonata - - - - much more musical and in time!

[@harryhd8194]

That first theme is gr8

[@fredericfreddyfreddo850]

Beautiful sonata. I think the tempo is absurdly fast tho.

[@rafa0086]

5:17 What a beautiful harmonic change, is it the mixolydian?

[@themobiusfunction]

Yes, mixolydian

[@user-xw3gu2rc3p]

6:41 pp cadenza

[@naturefruitmineralwater6307]

고맙습니다

[@lokmanmerican6889]

Lesser played, yes but obscure? I doubt it. I was a student growing up in Malaysia in the 1970's and my piano teacher already had me playing it back then. Of course that's personal experience but if it happened to me, I imagine it would have happened to many others. The music wasn't a serendipitous discovery in a flea market somewhere (those didn't exist in Malaysia because of the taboo against used items), it was ordered from publishers just like any other.

[@donalddck_president]

it is cool~!!!!!

[@peenut169]

The last movement has a touch of Rachmaninoff I can't help but hear. Is it just me?

[@AVIDEOGAL]

YES JUST YOU.........I HEAR BRAHMS INFLUENCE.......

[@peenut169]

I probably just listen to to much Rachmaninoff. xD

[@javiertw89]

Rachmaninov liked Grieg a lot. Perhaps it's the other way around :)

[@piano1500]

This piece was composed before Rachmaninoff was even born. So if there's any connection, it's the other way around.

[@egalitarianist]

I have never been able to find evidence Grieg ever heard of Rachmaninoff - whose celebrity came only just after Grieg's death. But Rachmaninoff studied, dearly loved and was inspired by Grieg's piano music, chords and harmonies throughout his life - maintaining to the end that Grieg's was the finest concerto ever composed. Rachmaninoff's close friend and fellow Moscow Conservatory student, Alexander Scriabin, also loved and was greatly influenced by Grieg - even basing his most famous sonata (no. 9, "Black Mass") on Grieg's Lyric Piece "Gone" (Op. 71, no. 6).

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

It is a masterpiece and matches the Op.7 of Carl Czerny and Muzio Clementi, the 3 are Op.7 and sonatas

[@adriatorras8077]

Czeyner La Mente Musical I agree, a masterpiece, but Czerny not. Clementi a little. La mente musical, se nota que no es el espíritu musical, jajajaja, ¡¡¡es broma!!! Soy el Kevin, has caído eh (el otro dia)

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

@@adriatorras8077 ???? Czerny es muy superior a Chopin, Clementi también es mejor que Chopin.

[@alejandrom.4680]

@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 No sé si algún día te has tomado el tiempo de analizar armónica, melódica, rítmica y emotivamente a estos compositores, pero por la reverenda ignorancia de tu comentario, aparentemente no. ¿Clementi mejor que Chopin? ¿Cómo puedes argumentar eso? En cuestión de Czerny, bueno, Czerny fue quien crió el genio de muchos compositores, incluyendo Liszt, Alkan, y demases, que obviamente sin un gran genio y maestría para la educación no se logran sólo porque tus alumnos sean brillantes.

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

@@alejandrom.4680 El único ignorante eres tú pues yo ya analize mucha música de Chopin y no se porque la sobrevaloran tanto por ejemplo su estudio revolucionario es mucho mas sencillo armónicamente y técnicamente que los estudios de Clementi y los del Opus 756 de Czerny también son superiores a los de Chopin.

[@LM-oz2sc]

​​@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 #CzernyIsShitass

[@oliverjohn5566]

I kid you not,Dodheimsgard(NO) added some of this beauty in their twisted songs

[@RedZed1974]

Grieg looked an awful lot like Mark Twain, whose real name was Samuel Clemens

[@raymondgood2359]

i also noticed this many years ago!

[@user-vv8nb7zz1l]

18분동안 개고생해서 연주하는 이곡... 도데체 정채가...??

[@kallehed6330]

Sounds like a mix of Schumann and Tchaikovsky, definitely more Schumann tho

[@leanhnguyenvu8832]

quá hay cho 1 bài nhạc

[@kevinhuang8916]

i find it strange that the 1st movement (from 00:06-04:31) is in the abrsm 2014-5 grade 8 syallbus

[@isaiahx.9701]

why so? i'm studying it right now, for abrsm XD

[@peenut169]

It's actually not too difficult, considering its mostly patterns and repetition.

[@greekyboy123]

One of my teachers from way back had to learn the whole sonata for his G8. Having an entire sonata to learn was the norm back then

[@avenarius8182]

Haha - yes that's exactly what I had to do (1979 I think). I was learning a different Sonata but three weeks before the exam heard someone preparing this for *their* G8 and loved it so much I had to learn it there and then. Worked like crazy in those three weeks. My teacher was tearing his hair out! Particularly as at exactly the same time I heard someone playing the Bach Cm Fantasy, so changed my A list piece as well! In those days the examiners used to stop you towards the end of very long pieces, and I was completely counting on that as I hadn't had time to fully master the end of the last movement! Luckily the examiner chirped up at exactly the right moment. :) She was a wonderfully generous marker too - giving me 136 which gave me the confidence to go on and have a very happy and satisfying lifetime career in music.

[@feldnuss]

Avenarius thanks for sharing

[@jboushka]

The closing theme in the finale is so familiar -- where has it it been copied into Hollywood scores? Obscure works often host familiar melodies.

[@RoberTVShow]

Why is the second movement played sooo slowly? It's an Andante, where's its movement?

[@adrianfundescu5407]

It sounds right to me....if you have another proposal..just put it here.:-).Just saying.No offence intended.Never played the second part,actually.Will look for the score again.Great work.

[@RoberTVShow]

Well, Andante means "walking", "in walking pace". I think this interpretation is more of an "adagio" (which means "slowly") then an "andante".

[@adrianfundescu5407]

;-)).I lived in Italy for long time (as a piano player/arranger/etc).So,guess I know the meaning of andante and etc.Thanks anyway.Now ..in this specific case,the speed would be right as it gives a time for ''breathing'' .But if you think another tempo would suit better the work than you could as well record your version.That might be usefull.As for this one,let's say I would play it using the same tempo.Which ,again ,gives the right space to sounds and gets the music out of the work.It's about the music at the end of the day not about ''that would be better''.Horowitz plays a lot of things faster than Rubinstein ,yet that does not make things better.

[@adrianfundescu5407]

Just listened again and I find this rendition as beeing highly musical and very ''northern feeling' driven.And the first part lets no doubt about the technical possibilities of the pianist.So...second's part tempo is a choice.It worth as beeing considered as such,in the general musical context of the work.

[@RoberTVShow]

Adrian Fundescu I'm always very glad to see that different people have different thoughts about music, that's what makes music so unique and extraordinary. I generally believe that "Andante" is not a slow tempo and, although I don't play this sonata, I would make it faster the second movement. This doesn't mean that I find this rendition bad or "wrong", I just happen to have a slightly different approach to the music. The same goes for some Chopin Nocturnes - and these I played them all - or, for instance, Bach's second movement of his Italian Concerto, or Schubert's second movement of his Sonata D.784, in Am. I tend to conceive them faster than we usually hear them played - as they're all marked "Andante". I am well aware that pianists vary a lot regarding tempo choices - just compare Richter's version of Schubert's D.960 to Schiff's -, and thankfully some pianists will satisfy some people while other pianists will satisfy other people. I like this rendition of the Grieg op.7, but would not choose a slow tempo to de 2nd mov - just a "walking" one. :)

[@SSYXO17]

Who is playing this sonate?

[@sskuk1095]

read the description

[@gustavjohansson6625]

10:18

[@sondheimisGAWD]

5:53 - 6:11

[@aguilaroja1545]

Im touch this!

[@toothlesstoe]

You're illiterate.

[@stephanelejoly]

The Allegro moderato movement is one that touches me the most! Have you ever "seen" this movement in a eurythmy performance? Eurythmy is an art of movement that seeks to make visible what is invisible in music and poetry : (the quality of the picture is not always the best one, due to technical issues) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooSpeIOJlNFgqbM

[@samshoemaker7865]

where have I heard 1:20 before help I feel like I recognize it from a movie or something

[@strm4392]

Reminds me of that one track in “Up”

[@benedettabreggion8737]

Which do you think is theme b in the first movement?

[@fiorelamarangoncastillo2917]

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[@user-0808.]

0:07 4:33

[@Lircking]

note to self: don't listen to this again

[@user-ov5fm3xg4o]

00:06 00:24

[@wryderz]

I'm just starting this piece, does anyone have some tips?

[@500yearsofmusic2]

Everythng Abad Briman said - I also find it really helpful to buy a load of Czerny's studies and practice them for at least half hour before starting the Grieg. Also Hanon can be helpful; I know it's controversial to some but each to their own :) Good luck!

[@MartyMusic777]

Abad Briman Fantastic advive!

[@FocusMrbjarke]

Abad Briman isn't that something you would know if you are playing something like this?

[@kwanpoyiu1380]

practice it seperately , e.g you can tey to practice the melody by right hand in first 2 line, than practice the bass part by left hand, ever time just play with one hand only, after you remember all notes with left hand and right hand, then you can start trying to play it together~~~~

[@danielpincus221]

Start way slower than you think necessary. Read the chapter on Meadowmount in “The Talent Code.”

[@ralfsteinhage1310]

na ja. jeder spielt es so wie er es gelernt hat. Ich finde es geht so. DIe schnellen Passagen kommen hier immer so plötzlich übertrieben. Ich beginne sie etwas langsamer und steigere erst beim weiterspiel.

[@olgaorleanskaia1162]

Every time I hear such an astounding interpretation of a famous piece, I wonder if the composer could have ever imagined how really big and beautiful his talent was. Especially if you compare such an interpretation with another not less astounding, by Alicia de Larrocha, for example kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYTdpIBvlKiIerM

[@heloisaheng3189]

5:50

[@timoc1402]

Could someone tell me what the form is?

[@oxfordspeaks]

Could you be a bit more specific?

[@oscargill423]

Beethoven meets Chopin glances Mozart passing in the street I guess

[@mcrettable]

couldn't find a theme ;

[@adrianfundescu5407]

Mi ,Si ,Sol etc ...the beginning,etc.A lot of development around it.Can't you hear it ?It's all over the place;-).Just listen.Is your volume turned on?Check that it might be cut...maybe.

[@TheOboeCrack]

1:40 appears clearly after introduction in major mode

[@adrianfundescu5407]

Just asking...why is it not a theme when it is in Em(actually the tonality of the work)...and it's a theme when it's exposed in major mode?Relly would like to know how you calculate this..;-))).

[@thatcherdonovan8138]

I found the form quite easy to pick out on first listening. Les thèmes sont très clairs, de mes oreilles.

[@subplantant]

Listening to Steen-Nøkleberg is like riding a bike through puddles of glue.

[@haegeami]

1:52

[@haegeami]

2:35

[@haegeami]

3:23

[@novellmusicmedia6895]

This is a concerto

[@perry1559]

It was good enough for Glenn Gould to record it.

[@sskuk1095]

Well, he was a relative of Edward Grieg.

[@martinbennett2228]

Gould was not exactly the best judge of 'good enough'. His interpretation of the first movement deserves attention.

[@MegaLeningrado]

bleck 1

[@lewisbae]

he's not playing some of the ties I think

[@ekaterinalattik-kaykhanidi134]

A lot of chords big intensive factura but 0 impression.

[@sanjosemike3137]

Putting his monumental Concerto aside, you need to examine Grieg through the lens of melody and exclusion of virtuosity for its own sake. For example, Liszt composed many pieces to help him "connect" with young women after his concerts. Octaves at 150 mph do not constitute music, even if they quickened the hearts of young females who want to "meet" the master after. This is not to say that the Liszt Piano Sonata is not a great work. It is. But Grieg had a completely different Gestalt. You need to get into a different mood. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)

[@langjones3846]

Hate the rubato.

[@alainspiteri502]

Little sonata not interesting for piano for melody for pianist for music livers after a good night with beautiful dream orrhaos more with this thing

[@AVIDEOGAL]

I ALWAYS HATED MUSIC LIVER !!!

[@nw6070]

​@@AVIDEOGAL trust me I thought the same until I tried them after a good night with beautiful dream orrhaos. Makes all the difference.

[@CarlosLima-oe7wn]

Fazer piada em comentários, desviando a finalidade destes, demonstra falta de interesse pelo assunto e profundo desrespeito às pessoas. Grotesco, piotr !

[@ShuckleDoesGaming]

first movement just feels rushed

[@mcrettable]

would love to see your version!

[@professoralthea5434]

Floris Heijdra I would love to see his version too. It’s not a comeback or whatever, it’s just pure curiosity about how it’s gonna sound like if played slower.

[@ShuckleDoesGaming]

there used to be a really good version on youtube with lots of expression but I haven't been able to find it in over a year.

[@toothlesstoe]

It sounds like it was played Allegro Moderato.

[@ShuckleDoesGaming]

toothless toe he plays it at least 20 clicks faster with no expression

[@aryanpianist]

Grieg was not good in classic forms... that is not a good sonata.... compare this with Liszt or Brahms ....that is maybe a good work just for young students but not more.

[@foreverraining1522]

I totally agree.

[@iseeu-fp9po]

*sniff*

[@johannesklove]

I liked it

[@composerjalen]

Anything will look bad if you compare it to the very best all the time

[@nw6070]

The slow movement is entirely beyond comparison and shines in a uniquely beautiful way. Only very primitive minds would rate and compare such a work. Sheer snobbery

[@Dnava28music]

I consider his piano concerto one of the most beautiful ever, but this sonata is simply boring and uninteresting. There are only harmonic modulations and a bunch of repetitive musical ideas.

[@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155]

the only boring thing here is to read your comment! Get out to hear Chopin's overrated crap! and to the boring Beethoven, Rachmaninov, Etc. I bet you don't even know that Czerny has more difficult Etudes than Chopin and Liszt together! Unknown composers are the ones with the most beautiful and difficult music! (Czerny, Clementi, Cramer, Bertini, Grieg, Moscheles, Heller, Burgmuller, Marmontel, Mereaux, Alkan, etc.)

[@multiSamP23]

@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 I completely agree with you. I fell in love with this sonata when I had to learn the whole of it for my Grade 8 exam, many years ago. I still love playing it. Thinking of obscure composers and difficult music brings to mind my tutor suggested I learn Balakirev's Islamey for a recital. Now that is really difficult and virtually unknown.

[@anais6566]

Way too rushed