Edward Nygma and Kristen Kringle Complete Story, Gotham Season 1

[@galaxy_whizard]

I hate how bad everyone treats Edward. Poor guy. He's my favorite.

[@GangreenGangBunny123]

+Karleigh Johnson Same here. He's the kind of character that I can relate to because I'm kind of the same way: I'm born a Scorpio and a Wood Dog (Chinese Zodiac), so I can be tough and sweet with a vengeful side. I have Aspergers Syndrome (High-Functioning Autism) so I tend to become obsessed on certain things, (some of my interests I get excited about people have found weird or creepy), but because of that and having a wide range of different tastes, I'm very knowledgeable about lots of things, have excellent memory and great observation for even the tiniest details... but I have some difficulty when it comes to talking to people, like social cues and when someone wants to end a conversation. And because of all that, I've had trouble making friends and people end up getting annoyed with me and sometimes yell at me, which hurts my feelings and makes me hate myself for being the way I am. But being a Scorpio and a Dog, when it comes to people I care about, my love and loyalty to them is like that of a dog's. So it's one thing to mess with me, but if someone messes with someone I care about... they're gonna pay. But sometimes I get angry when people make fun of me or don't listen to me when I'm trying to give them advice that turns out to be the best for them or tell them what really happened or what someone really said until I prove it to them. That drives me nuts because it's like they're questioning my intelligence, like they think I'm really stupid, that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I'm a dark blonde; I know I have my dumb blonde moments from time to time, but I'm not THAT stupid. So I think if The Riddler were a real person, I might not be able to answer all of his riddles correctly, but I think he would allow me to live, since we seem to have a lot in common and can relate to each other. I think he and I would get along very well. Ironically, the guy that plays him in this series is a Scorpio, too. And his birthday is only 7 or 8 days away from mine! And he's only 8 years older than me! And he's a Tiger like my dad!

[@galaxy_whizard]

I can relate. I give you hugs.

[@bethanygeorgiou1227]

+GangreenGangBunny123 I can relate to.

[@galaxy_whizard]

now....'s dead serves them right.

[@cameronwilson1199]

Screw you Kringle dory s Jim was his f

[@jordantaylor6602]

First season Ed just needs a hug and some friends.

[@honeymoonlandd]

Jordan Taylor HE WAS SO SMOL I WANT TO CRI

[@aaroncohenour559]

The penguin as his friend pushed him over the edge.

[@tilaNmanx]

And many, many therapy sessions.

[@Oneislandproductions123]

@Trevor Anthony he isnt

[@Tgs9]

He was a chill guy, but every season he got crazyer and crazyer.......

[@devinwolfi]

Ed: *stabs Dougherty once* oh dear Ed: *stabs Dougherty 10 more times* oh dear

[@Tommy_J.41]

this made me laugh way more than it should have hahah

[@MartinCapreo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@summerdashno8428]

nygma is my favorite character. They chose the right actor. he can be funny and shocking at times.

[@jordynthepirate1750]

Summer Dashno he's one of my faves

[@surround83]

His name is cory michael smith

[@thegruesometwosome2831]

nygma is one of the main reasons i started watching gotham

[@rosesomma642]

He reminds me of a really excited puppy. He's really excited to be included, but when you push him away he's sad for moment, until he finds something else to occupy his attention.

[@drsheev7413]

I can relate to that

[@maddieflowers3273]

Ed's character development is really sad like he used to be a cute (and weird) little guy and then he realized he enjoyed killing people so he just embraced who he is

[@aaroncohenour559]

No, the killing was the first time that he he didn't feel like a victim. He felt empowered. I don't think there was joy in it, there's a lot going on, but not joy. He didn't turn villain until after he became friends with the penguin. At this point, he could have made a recovery, because it was a morally gray act.

[@kristinamitchell3632]

everyone is so mean to him, he's so adorable

[@nevtorcx8650]

Kristina Mitchell *Adorkable.

[@ASurlySpectre]

Good one! :)

[@tiararoxeanne1318]

I like him. I always have a soft spot for nerds. Especially the handsome ones😘😂

[@BeautyMakeup.Makeover]

I know what you mean ❤❤

[@IndyFilmProductions]

It's sad that the only well done cinematic riddler origin is from a TV show.

[@theenigmaencoder92]

+Andrew “Bigby” White He means that there's not more of them.

[@jordanhorne1173]

Indy Film Productions comics?tas?

[@xnet_cascade6257]

Indy Film Productions well there’s really only two

[@GalacticProductionss]

Jordan Horne cinematic not written

[@Eman-np3rj]

@@jordanhorne1173 they are obviously talking about live action -_-

[@tattianaanderson]

" I'm surgically removing the onions from my take out " Me 😂

[@spebtm8017]

I just wouldn't eat it because it has all those onion bacteria

[@haleylockhart6352]

Tattiana Thats literally me because I don't like onions either

[@zombielover3758]

Omigod 😱 ITHINKI’VEJUSTFOUNDMYPEOPLE!! 😂😂👍 Onion haters, yasssss!

[@liquoricemold4353]

I thought he said evidence not onions

[@techno-pow4245]

I loved that line

[@samni9068]

“He’s so weird” and “what a creep”. I find him quite cute and entertaining. I always speak out with random facts, sneaking up on people, I love riddles and jokes and I am definitely weird. Removing the onions from his takeaway, answering quiz shows, investigating and bit of an outcast. We seem to have a lot in common.

[@wgtgs5409]

Oddly sounds like me too 😂🤣😂😈😈😉

[@ceciliocedonoblocnote]

wwo so cool !! :D

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

While Daugherty is the one who really is a 'weird creep'. What if Nygma dies (if unarmed and helpless) as a nobody rather than live to see himself as a nightmare? Imagine Dougherty being the one who became the Riddler for much more different reason: he's a non-Disney non-musical equivalent of both Gaston from "Beauty & The Beast" and Frollo from "The Hunchback Of Notre-Dame" because he's a lazy greedy selfish unethical careless heartless braggart who does nothing good for the city and is so one-track minded that he answers '4' or '9' when being asked '3 + 2' and yet he is more likable and well-respected to the eyes of his co-workers than Nygma, especially to the eyes of Kristen Kringle (who is an live-action non-superpowered adult equivalent of Buttercup in the PPG episode called "Buttercrush") and except to those of Dr. Lee Thompskins (whom he later gone 'Notice me, senpai?' on in season 4), and nobody would take credit of every single thing he does even before he became the Riddler. He was never satisfied, however, he had grown very bored with a police work, although the only fun part of being a cop is accepting bribes from crooks and picking on the weak/innocent for amusement like any dirty cop would and when not 'working' he went spending money on booze and hookers/strippers randomly. He willingly quits being cop and sought opportunity to kill Nygma--though he didn't end up having a split-personality and didn't show any sigh of regret/remorse like Nygma---and stole his riddle-book so he uses it to do whatever he want and bullies whomever he wants, he doesn't care about the riddles being answered correctly or puzzles being solved as long as he always wins by cheating and enjoying watching his victims gruesomely injured/killed, it doesn't matter to him if those who attacked him first or those he barely knows at all when they just perish in his wake/path. He never friends with Oswald Cobblepot nor Barbra Keen, but he willingly join forces with Hugo Strange twice and in season 5 he willingly commits horrible atrocities terrorizing/destroying Gotham side by side with Bane. He also became sexually obsessed with a teenage girl named Selina Kyle throughout the entire show. My point is that the show would have been well-written if the Riddler is a full-fledged hate-sink and complete monster and one might being Tom Dougherty instead of the usual one being Edward Nygma.

[@Kobaford]

Sure

[@photovideo6483]

Then we have a lot of common

[@finn_underwood]

I didn't expect it, but I'm actually pleased how this show rewrote The Riddler's origin story. Previously I used the Batman TAS "If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?" episode as my Main Cannon, but... this has caught me surprisingly strongly, and I actually kinda like the whole psychological aspects to this. If he just had someone who cared about him, he would never have gone down this path. That's a very powerful frame of mind for a simple comic show to generate.

[@sleevelessace7920]

I agree this is the best Adaptation and story/prequel arch for the riddler Ever done… this actor puts jim Carey himself to shame! (In this particular role ofcourse)

[@2Scribble]

15:33 - Notice how his hair is 'slicked' like the Riddler persona - rather than his normal messy style... almost like he needs to remind himself 'Riddler' was doing this...

[@oscarmontes3230]

love this guy as the riddler!!

[@byDefAlt06]

+Oscar Montes his name is Michael Cory Smith

[@vintage8546]

Gotham Promos & Clips thanks

[@deliahpittman7661]

Officer doughtery: **punches ed** me: well that's not fair how is he supposed to defend himse_ Ed: **brutally murders Officer doughtery** Me: alright then, never mind i retract my previous statment

[@bigbadbraxien6081]

dellybean Films I see what you did there (retract)

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

Well, if Nygma didn't armed himself with a knife in the first place, Dougherty would have brutally murders him by stabbing him in both chest and the face with a thick-glass bottle...from which Dougherty was drinking a wisky/rum and so broke it's bottom half to turn it into a sharp jagged stabbing weapon.

[@GalacticProductionss]

Technically- if Ed hadn’t been as brutal as he was he could have claimed self defense chest punches can be lethal- but then again it’s just a show and I need to stop overthinking it

[@tackydock990]

@@GalacticProductionss nag dude I thought the same shit

[@wickedfeylady]

He's a great actor. Riddler is a maladjusted guy, but no one's helping him. I look forward to his character development. It would be cool if Kringle ended up being the Holiday killer

[@oliver9549]

Gosh, I look at this and compare to how he is now in season 2. Such a well done character!

[@leonie4322]

I'm on s2, nearly s3, & ed's character development is crazy!! well written & well acted by cory!

[@Archfiend_Sushi7746]

Yeah, it's good they did this in TV show format so they can do a more detailed storytelling with a slow burn that doesn't all have to be in a 2 hour timeframe. Season 2 episode 15 is still my favorite.

[@kayundae4411]

Edward just needs some love and it's true that if people didn't bully nor pity him he likely wouldn't have become The Riddler, even so...I'm glad his story arc developed far more in season 2 and this is the best actor to play the role thus far

[@TitanWar93]

first two stabs accidental, but the later ones are done on purpose. The first crime of The Riddler.

[@rionelupus]

Nah the first two stabs were in self defence, and the other stabs were for his own pleasure

[@abcdefghijk2016]

I hate that everyone is just mean and horrible to him.😡😡😢😢

[@_antonio_4915]

not Jim

[@Lonarix1]

_Antonio Whisper_ which is ironic

[@Ghost-mq7gq]

_Antonio Whisper_ Jim is actually just a nice guy who wants to be like his dad

[@_antonio_4915]

Domestos Yeah but its still sad how he was like the only one nice to ed but ed just frames him

[@Ghost-mq7gq]

yeah he frames jim because he wasnt thinking straight, he thought that jim would find out that he killed kringle and her ex

[@ivydarling9678]

0:18 WHY DOES HE SNIFF HER HAIR OMFF I LOSE IT EVERYTIME 😂😂😂💀

[@mickeymouse2able]

She wears green a lot. Clever of the costume designer.

[@spanishwerewolf80]

Man if I saw in person how she reacted to the cupcake, I would have hugged Nygma

[@MrValeska]

spanishwerewolf80 what xd

[@logical_141]

I know this is a old comment, but there is a direct bullet placed on the cupcake. She had all the rights to reject the cupcake- I would have definitely have, and including the fact he had stalking intentions, she probably believed the cupcake was tampered with, possible poisoned.

[@Promethazin3]

Extra Salty It wasn’t to eat it was a riddle

[@reykhan2453]

@@Promethazin3 Bro its Gotham city, you think anyone is going to eat random food left by their creepy coworker, WITH A BULLET IN IT.

[@reykhan2453]

Also he ain't creepy cause he's socially awkward but was actively sniffing her in the first scene

[@Scorpion-fq2jt]

Riddler is just bad because nobody loved him and everyone he knew treated him bad. Evil has a reason.

[@vanessaghrayeb7971]

Honestly he's the best riddler. I love him.

[@KuramiRocket]

I feel so bad for Ed because it's obvious he doesn't know how to act in social situations and just wants to be noticed and respected. I can connect to that since a lot of times I am called names too >> However, as adorable as he can be sometimes, he really was acting pretty creepy towards Kringle. He should have respected her feelings and personal space. Oh Ed, my creepy son. Poor guy, but at the same time. Well.

[@frenchie7363]

1:51 is so adorable

[@KB-zq9ny]

Glad we finally got some good character development on the Riddler. The guy needs his spotlight. I would like to see a Riddler vs. Joker in this timeline, though.

[@melissajackson8686]

So now I have a crush on him as well as jerome

[@woolfiegamer2558]

I think I am worse as I have a crush on Ed, Jerome AND on Oswald (which is my huge crush)... We're all together on this my friend

[@silverphoenix2337]

+Woolfie Gamer Same 😩😍

[@sarabaker354]

Taiga Shadow YES! Who doesn't 🙌🏼

[@tattianaanderson]

Taiga Shadow OMG they are both my favs!! lmao 😂 great minds think alike and also, I'm not gonna lie Jervis is pretty attractive.

[@pinata111colada]

Taiga Shadow same they are so cute

[@krissydoll8213]

So cute how he says, "the way a peat moss grows...llllaterally." haha!

[@equalitypeaceandwaitwhat3502]

That end scene was amazing. Cory never ceases to amaze me

[@riripanini]

"MY GOD THE RIDDLES." Lmao

[@samanthablaisdell2149]

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT THE NYGMA THING IN THE LETTER WAS THE COOLEST CLUE TO LEAVE OK ONLY ME WELL BYE THEN

[@HryPotrFreak]

I love the music at 14:06 :) Reminds of all the creepy parts of Bioshock.

[@Agustdswifey]

Same honestly

[@chameleon1015]

Props to Cory I LOVED that last scene. Perfect execution of how odd he is, and the editing, MWAH 💋

[@AnastaZ17]

Ed knew he was going to kill Dougherty from the first time he met him, you can see it in his eyes.

[@katherinepierce9803]

She didn't deserve him, season 1 Ed was special :3

[@masterjocohen3319]

Nygma can't be that old in this series; probably in his early twenties.

[@jackkaminski393]

Well, he's an old-school villain when Batman faces him off. When Bruce was a kid he started committing crimes, but then retired. Then when he hears of Batman he comes back. It makes sense for him to be in his mid 20s or early 30s.

[@anzupara8215]

he’s in his early 30s, based on the fact that oswald is 33, and it’s said they’re around the same age!

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@jackkaminski393 According to what? The Telltale games?

[@mickeymouse2able]

Huh? The actor, Cory Michael Smith is about 31-32. He's very cute and a very nice guy. I met him at a screening of "1985" he could not have been nicer and patient with us dorky fans. I love him. So anybody who says anything bad about this man will get stabbed. Um, that's all. Carry on.

[@jordynthepirate1750]

MasterJo Cohen Im pretty sure most of them were supposed to be in the early/mid twenties Including the Valeska twins cause when Jeromes age is first mentioned he's 18 and or 19

[@jimmajam96]

the way the cop said riddle man as he died

[@kamithecompiler857]

A tragic tale of romance, passion, and a murder most foul... Tim Burton docet

[@lwanco1018]

7:22 I'm not the only one who does that!

[@tilanalala4242]

Axe- accidental death.

[@spectralight8412]

You know rewatching this now and awaiting for 3x07 I'm kind of getting the sense that history is gonna try to repeat itself. Edward was in love with Kristen who was dating Tom and Ed ended up killing Tom to protect her and be with her then ended up killing her, now Oswald is in love with Edward who now wants to date Isabella so if Oswald comes across Isabella... will he end up killing her so he can have Ed? And Ed and Oswald can't kill each other do to Batman Rogues Insurance so what'll end up becoming of them? And Nygma has used two love riddles in this show!? This first one sounds cooler than the corny one he told Penguin.

[@M0oranshi]

You saw the future!

[@paradoxic02]

so many people rag on kristen for being “mean” to ed but he LITERALLY sniffed her which is grade A creep behavior. if a dude did that did you, you wouldn’t wanna be around him either when he’s constantly badgering you incessantly. sure, we the audience know ed doesn’t have any intentiona to hurt her (yet) but still… any woman would be nervous and want to get away from a dude who sniffed their hair

[@honestiago1000]

he may be weird...but yhe lady is very rude and insensitive

[@rabef.c.9017]

Imagine someone coming to your room or working place or study space and rearranging everything even after you specifically asked them not to. She is not insensitive, her annoyance with Ed is understandable. I love Ed, he is basically my favourite, but Kringle has done nothing wrong

[@HawnixArtistry]

She also has terrible taste in men. I know Ed was a bit weird and off-putting, and sometimes creepy. But he was harmless. Kringle had a right to be annoyed with him, but often times she was too cruel to him constantly. And to have a taste in dudes that are constantly pieces of shit, to Ed and also herself, is unfortunate.

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

@@rabef.c.9017 The only one thing why Kringle is always insensitive is that she has an 'TAJMS', which means 'Toxic Abuse Jock Masochist Syndrome'...it is mental condition that causes a woman to mindlessly attract herself to assholes regardless of their status or appearances. Imagine that if Jabba the Hutt is literally involved in this show, one moment Kringle saw nothing but aggression and dominance in him she willingly give herself in to him, unlike Leia that's for sure!

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

@@HawnixArtistry Fair point! Those dudes, Arnold Flass and Tom Dougherty, who are both indeed pieces of shit and they are the real creepy ones. In fact neither of them didn't even bother to save Kristen Kringle from being shot at... that makes them 'dirty cowards' while Kringle is a 'ungrateful bitch' to Nygma and so she dies like one at the end.

[@l1amma891]

@@ProMonarchyGenius Did not expect to see a sexist incel in the comments of a riddler video, but alas, here you are

[@spicybiscuit5530]

I love that last scene with him arguing with himself. Cory was definitely a perfect choice to play Ed.

[@summerdashno3522]

At 15:00 is he laughing or failing to cry?

[@byDefAlt06]

+Summer Dashno both at the same time !!!

[@AnastaZ17]

Summer Dashno split personality, he's switching between laughing and panicking

[@alexclaure566]

20:26 every time I hear that music, I get chills.

[@joshp3509]

Do u know the 80s music that comes on? I can’t find the name!

[@Eris_Norregard]

6:22 Do you hear that? That is my heart breaking... :'(

[@POPZ1KLE]

I just feel so bad for him, he’s overwhelmed and honestly I’d say he’s a bit confused. He felt guilty about killing officer Dougherty but he laughed because he also really hated him and it just builds up. When he says “oh dear” and “stop laughing you fool, it’s not funny” it really just makes me sad :(

[@mintyglitches]

so excited to see his story develop more in season 2

[@libbyscott6160]

Ugh I don't like Kringle at all. Can't say I was all that choked up about her passing... I guess I'm one of those awkward nerds who can relate to Ed so that's why I empathize with him so much. I hate how she called him weird and odd and didn't even try to understand his riddles. Personally, I would love a guy like Ed in my life (maybe not a murderer though...). I like ridiculously intelligent men (and the actor is hot! Later eps, he reminds me of Edups in his appearance). But honestly, he really should have backed off the first time (or maybe the second) she showed she wasn't interested in him so I'm not 100% supportive of his multiple attempts at wooing. It would have worked on me though. :D

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

For the sake of comedy and simple theory, here's this. And besides, Kristen deserves to being a hate-sink. Have you known and understand the meaning of the "So Beautiful, It's A Curse" trope? And have you watched "The American Dad" episode called "Shallow Vows" and a Jim Carrey movie called "Me, Myself & Irene"? Let both of those to be an friendly reminders, buddy! If Kristen 'Dumbass' Kringle is actually ugly/deformed and fat in the outer appearance, with zits allover her face, a heavy uni-brow, a frizzy hair and a goofy uneven teeth, and wearing nothing in public but nose-piercings, tank-top, fur jacket, tiny shorts and sneakers (talking about a REALLY uglier version of Harley Quinn), and her laugh sounded as goofy unintelligent and obnoxious as the Kanker Sisters (from "Ed Edd N Eddy") like a wilder-beast maybe things worked out differently for her via survived throughout the entire five-seasoned series. In the case of her three brutal jackasses of ex-boyfriends--Arnold Floss, Tom Daugherty and even Edward Claude Gollum Nygma Frollo--who all just simply grossed out at sight of her so they would have leave her alone and none of those three have dated her to begin with while they too busy minding their own business and doing their own jobs within the GCPD they all assigned to (though both Floss and Dougherty don't take their duties as seriously often as Nygma does his): in fact she never get bruises from either Floss or Daugherty because both of them wouldn't want to touch her to even scratch her and they too move/run away as she approaches the moment they see her and they pushing her away she get too close to them. As for Nygma, for the sake of 'get even', he properly ignoring her as much as she does ignoring him, they calling each other 'creep' and treating each other like dirt every time they briefly interact, so neither is a stalker with a crush to one another...in other words, he neither leave a cupcake with a live bullet on her desk nor rush in to use himself as a shield during the gunfire. All this prove that Floss, Daugherty and Nygma are all just as shallow as the titular American Dad named Stan Smith. As Irene from "Me, Myself & Irene" says..."How come I couldn't getting mixed up with an easy-going guy? Maybe it's something to do with this look that just attracts assholes!"...yep, that make perfect sense. Right? Irene, as well as Isabella, did at least try to attract an nice guy while try avoiding assholes, and at least Jessica married to Roger Rabbit because she saw a nice/smart guy in him that made her laugh...unlike Kringle and Buttercup, both who have a TAJMS (Toxic Abusive Jock Masochism Syndrome) that's for sure. However, Kringle still wears glasses, her personality remain the same we actually saw in the show, she even still is a masochist to 'bad boys'--or should I say...'sloppy filthy violent brutes and smelly vulgar fucking hillbilly bikers', I did say about a TAJMS earlier! That's right, she's the one who's been purposely attracted to assholes even without trying hard enough to actually attracting them to herself. The real reason why she chose a police station as workplace, not because she wants to do good to the city, it's because she is longing to get laid with insensitive losers like those so she enjoying getting beat up senselessly by them, she doesn't care whatever he's the right guy for her or not and she doesn't even care about his looks as long as he has nothing to provide but dominance and aggression. That's why she always hitting on either Floss (who later got fired from the GCPD for sexual assaulting teenage girls) or Daugherty because they both are most definitely the most dominant and aggressive men of the entire police force, while during the seasons 1 and 2 she still avoids Nygma because he's too smart, too clean, too nice, too gentle and he looks like a wimp who refuses to harm a fly...until he got arrested for three first murders (minus her own death, I did say about that she's lived because her ugliness) and the incrimination of Jim Gordon, revealing that Nygma himself became dominant and aggressive since the finale of season 1 when he killed Tom Daugherty (his first victim) in self-defense rather than protecting such an ungrateful bitch like her. Of course, throughout seasons 3 and 4 in her perspective, since Floss and Daugherty are now gone, Kringle started to do nothing but watching porno, reading dirty magazines and chasing around 'tough guys' in the street like a cat in heat screaming "Come on, fuck me! FUCK ME!!" with the same choreography as both Amy Rose ( from "Sonic The Hedgehog" franchise) and Tadao Spineless-Little-Shit Yokoshima (from "Ghost Sweeper Mikami"), most of her co-workers in the GCPD (especially Jim Gordon, Lee Thompkins and Harvey Bullock) became disgusted by what she's been doing. As the result, they fired her for constantly slacking off like an brainless high-school chick who doesn't date nice guys (as Chris from "Just Friends" pointed out when complaining about what his best friend Jammie did back in High-school) and at the same time arrested her for an stalking and attempted rape of every jock and lowlife (regardless the fact that some are armed to the teeth) she sees within the city, she live long enough as such a pest even to Nygma who now called himself 'The Riddler', as well as she is that at one time to his new friend Oswald Cobblepot a.k.a. 'The Penguin'. There she is sent to Arkham Asylum, in the separate/isolated highly secured cell far away from those of the other inmates because of her mental condition the staff referred to as the 'Emo Jock Violence Masochism'/'Toxic Abusive Jock Masochism Syndrome'--which means if she catch sight of the meaner tougher-looking male inmate she goes berserk with sexual frustration, she's still locked away during the whole season 5. Ten years later, Kringle still confined in her cell briefly encounters Nygma as he escaping the asylum thanks to the smuggled equipment he thinks it was Cobblebot who offered him. Since she have been hearing stories of his crimes which suffice that the fact he is no longer a gentle wimpy nice guy now he's a dominant and aggressive man and while she still have no interest in his superior intelligence and still uncaring for his great love for riddles...all she does is to scream at him like a crazy indecent woman (crazier than even Barbra Keen and stupider than Harley Quinn) "Come on, Nygma! Take me with you! Let's get laid together! Feel so horny I'm can't wait! I just want to be fucked" only to annoy him due to the fact that she still psychically ugly exactly the last time he saw her when they both used to work in the GCPD...so he confront her, ram his fist through her face (breaking her nose and knocking off few teeth in process) and respond angrily "Shut the hell up, you lousy annoying piece of whore shit! We are nothing alike! I never liked you, EVER! I don't want to see your zit pig face for the rest of my life! Now good bye, Miss Kringle.", then he turn around and leave. There as he made it out, Nygma still hear Kringle's moaning and giggling echoing inside the the asylum's halls even through her bleeding nose, she actually does enjoying being beat up...what a dumb-ass she is, disregarding her own well-being all for what he deems as an pointless indulgent! THE END What do you that Kringle still lives if she's ugly as hell while mean to him at the very beginning, way different than what actually happen in "Gotham" TV series? Sorry for being so nasty, though.

[@pugdog4040]

I wish Ed knew Isabella first

[@thespectaculargamernerd8114]

Was that an unintentional dark pun?

[@scarecrowart6449]

He’s the best! The show did a really good job on his character development was weird watching these scenes back. His character was so different.

[@reenamiller4489]

Has anyone ever noticed that Edward Nygma’s story here with Ms. Kringle is similar to the Mad Hatter’s story in the Batman animated series? A soon to be villain who falls in love with their coworker, only to learn that the girl they like already has a partner. In order to be with them, they go behind the girl’s back and manipulate and/or hurt their partner so they can be with the girl, only to lose them by their own words and actions

[@Abducted_Cows]

This is just 21 minutes of Ed being to precious for this world

[@RedPandaKT]

I love Riddler so much and definitely relate to him, but at the same time I've also had to deal with a creepy coworker I wasn't into endlessly bugging me and flirting and making me uncomfortable, so I 100% understand Kristen's attitude towards him. Idk, they're both relatable and interesting to me and I wish the show hadn't butchered them in later seasons (in Kristen's case literally)

[@Lonarix1]

1:06 I thought he was gonna say shithole. Lmao

[@thesadprepper3722]

#Malec Donald Trump approved

[@jadenalyssabarberjadenalys8946]

"stop laughing you fool, it's not funny" i died when he said that LMAO

[@t_r_a_y_e9858]

i once had the exact same relashionship with a girl. Besides the killing part.

[@jordanhorne1173]

Zule Productions so you got friend zoned?

[@g-chokpaulus8349]

That's what a killer would say.

[@TenorTime]

8:23 literally i paused that shit i was like NO NO THAT IS NOT HOW YOU START A CONVERSATION

[@TheShockVox]

19:26 that’s awesome. He just can’t help it

[@-Zakhiel-]

*Nygma is portrayed as a creep* Every woman in the comment section : "I love Ed!!!"

[@Chlo255]

Kristen is so freaking gorgeous!

[@gretameadows972]

you should do a season 2 of Edward nygma and Kristen kringle all scenes

[@leslianan4853]

I love you The riddler

[@SpiralsAreAlive]

Yeah I can understand especially with Kristen’s files that he oversteps boundaries, but I feel like maybe as people who have to explain things to criminals, victims, and other people in the same job, you think they’d be willing to try to explain it to Ed, he’s not hard headed. Honestly I understand Kristen’s reaction and lashing out because that’s her workspace but I understand him not taking the hint; he just doesn’t respond to anger well, riddles are probably the most emotional responses he can think of to respond to them. Also the crimes and unpleasantries, it’s more ingrained into Gotham culture than Vikings or Spartans. It also probably doesn’t help that the villains are more interesting than a lot of the main characters like Jim or his girlfriends, even Selina and Bruce or Jonathan Crane are struggling to keep up with this shows adult villains, they’re waiting to become cool adults

[@thesadprepper3722]

Riddler in Gotham: *Chokes the living shit out of his defenseless girlfriend* "Omg hes so cute!" Punisher in Daredevil: *Kills mafia and cartel members and beats the living shit out of a pedophile* "Omg what a monster!"

[@peytonwooley2332]

At first i wanted these two to get together then i look way back and think kristen was a total bit** and she only "fell in love" with him in season 2 just becuz he saved her. so shes not really in love. Ed deserved someone better at that time.

[@HiHi-wq1fh]

He deserved Oswald.

[@ProMonarchyGenius]

For the sake of comedy and simple theory, here's this. And besides, Kristen deserves to being a hate-sink. Saving her life is not slightly possible, the real reason that she 'fell in love' with Nygma was because she only sees in him nothing but dominance and aggression which are very common among jocks, lowlifes and assholes alike! Have you known and understand the meaning of the "So Beautiful, It's A Curse" trope? And have you watched "The American Dad" episode called "Shallow Vows" and a Jim Carrey movie called "Me, Myself & Irene"? Let both of those to be an friendly reminders, buddy! If Kristen 'Dumbass' Kringle is actually ugly/deformed and fat in the outer appearance, with zits allover her face, a heavy uni-brow, a frizzy hair and a goofy uneven teeth, and wearing nothing in public but nose-piercings, tank-top, fur jacket, tiny shorts and sneakers (talking about a REALLY uglier version of Harley Quinn), and her laugh sounded as goofy unintelligent and obnoxious as the Kanker Sisters (from "Ed Edd N Eddy") like a wilder-beast maybe things worked out differently for her via survived throughout the entire five-seasoned series. In the case of her three brutal jackasses of ex-boyfriends--Arnold Floss, Tom Daugherty and even Edward Claude Gollum Nygma Frollo--who all just simply grossed out at sight of her so they would have leave her alone and none of those three have dated her to begin with while they too busy minding their own business and doing their own jobs within the GCPD they all assigned to (though both Floss and Dougherty don't take their duties as seriously often as Nygma does his): in fact she never get bruises from either Floss or Daugherty because both of them wouldn't want to touch her to even scratch her and they too move/run away as she approaches the moment they see her and they pushing her away she get too close to them. As for Nygma, for the sake of 'get even', he properly ignoring her as much as she does ignoring him, they calling each other 'creep' and treating each other like dirt every time they briefly interact, so neither is a stalker with a crush to one another...in other words, he neither leave a cupcake with a live bullet on her desk nor rush in to use himself as a shield during the gunfire. All this prove that Floss, Daugherty and Nygma are all just as shallow as the titular American Dad named Stan Smith. As Irene from "Me, Myself & Irene" says..."How come I couldn't getting mixed up with an easy-going guy? Maybe it's something to do with this look that just attracts assholes!"...yep, that make perfect sense. Right? Irene, as well as Isabella, did at least try to attract an nice guy while try avoiding assholes, and at least Jessica married to Roger Rabbit because she saw a nice/smart guy in him that made her laugh...unlike Kringle and Buttercup, both who have a TAJMS (Toxic Abusive Jock Masochism Syndrome) that's for sure. However, Kringle still wears glasses, her personality remain the same we actually saw in the show, she even still is a masochist to 'bad boys'--or should I say...'sloppy filthy violent brutes and smelly vulgar fucking hillbilly bikers', I did say about a TAJMS earlier! That's right, she's the one who's been purposely attracted to assholes even without trying hard enough to actually attracting them to herself. The real reason why she chose a police station as workplace, not because she wants to do good to the city, it's because she is longing to get laid with insensitive losers like those so she enjoying getting beat up senselessly by them, she doesn't care whatever he's the right guy for her or not and she doesn't even care about his looks as long as he has nothing to provide but dominance and aggression. That's why she always hitting on either Floss (who later got fired from the GCPD for sexual assaulting teenage girls) or Daugherty because they both are most definitely the most dominant and aggressive men of the entire police force, while during the seasons 1 and 2 she still avoids Nygma because he's too smart, too clean, too nice, too gentle and he looks like a wimp who refuses to harm a fly...until he got arrested for three first murders (minus her own death, I did say about that she's lived because her ugliness) and the incrimination of Jim Gordon, revealing that Nygma himself became dominant and aggressive since the finale of season 1 when he killed Tom Daugherty (his first victim) in self-defense rather than protecting such an ungrateful bitch like her. Of course, throughout seasons 3 and 4 in her perspective, since Floss and Daugherty are now gone, Kringle started to do nothing but watching porno, reading dirty magazines and chasing around 'tough guys' in the street like a cat in heat screaming "Come on, fuck me! FUCK ME!!" with the same choreography as both Amy Rose ( from "Sonic The Hedgehog" franchise) and Tadao Spineless-Little-Shit Yokoshima (from "Ghost Sweeper Mikami"), most of her co-workers in the GCPD (especially Jim Gordon, Lee Thompkins and Harvey Bullock) became disgusted by what she's been doing. As the result, they fired her for constantly slacking off like an brainless high-school chick who doesn't date nice guys (as Chris from "Just Friends" pointed out when complaining about what his best friend Jammie did back in High-school) and at the same time arrested her for an stalking and attempted rape of every jock and lowlife (regardless the fact that some are armed to the teeth) she sees within the city, she live long enough as such a pest even to Nygma who now called himself 'The Riddler', as well as she is that at one time to his new friend Oswald Cobblepot a.k.a. 'The Penguin'. There she is sent to Arkham Asylum, in the separate/isolated highly secured cell far away from those of the other inmates because of her mental condition the staff referred to as the 'Emo Jock Violence Masochism'/'Toxic Abusive Jock Masochism Syndrome'--which means if she catch sight of the meaner tougher-looking male inmate she goes berserk with sexual frustration, she's still locked away during the whole season 5. Ten years later, Kringle still confined in her cell briefly encounters Nygma as he escaping the asylum thanks to the smuggled equipment he thinks it was Cobblebot who offered him. Since she have been hearing stories of his crimes which suffice that the fact he is no longer a gentle wimpy nice guy now he's a dominant and aggressive man and while she still have no interest in his superior intelligence and still uncaring for his great love for riddles...all she does is to scream at him like a crazy indecent woman (crazier than even Barbra Keen and stupider than Harley Quinn) "Come on, Nygma! Take me with you! Let's get laid together! Feel so horny I'm can't wait! I just want to be fucked" only to annoy him due to the fact that she still psychically ugly exactly the last time he saw her when they both used to work in the GCPD...so he confront her, ram his fist through her face (breaking her nose and knocking off few teeth in process) and respond angrily "Shut the hell up, you lousy annoying piece of whore shit! We are nothing alike! I never liked you, EVER! I don't want to see your zit pig face for the rest of my life! Now good bye, Miss Kringle.", then he turn around and leave. There as he made it out, Nygma still hear Kringle's moaning and giggling echoing inside the the asylum's halls even through her bleeding nose, she actually does enjoying being beat up...what a dumb-ass she is, disregarding her own well-being all for what he deems as an pointless indulgent! THE END What do you that Kringle still lives if she's ugly as hell while mean to him at the very beginning, way different than what actually happen in "Gotham" TV series? Sorry for being so nasty, though.

[@ryankang956]

The Riddler must have a difficult time in his life, which reasons why Edward Nygma becomes the Riddler and battles Batman....

[@lydiaboll2872]

At least in the comics, idk about this show, Ed had a neglectful mother and a physically abusive father (who couldn’t handle how smart his son was and beat him whenever Ed got high grades in school bc (to him) the only reason his son is excelling his because he’s cheating.

[@alexplays8640]

I loved Miss Kringle and Nigma, they were my favourite couple until, well, you know. The Isabella, she was great too. Until, you know. Can you see a paytern

[@sgnikethre9477]

I love that Jim was nice to him

[@nessydelight470]

Me too

[@donkeyman9992]

It is so sad. The sweet boy destroyed by sadness and torment.

[@fexxi87]

Ed could get it, he's literally so attractive

[@lydiaboll2872]

Definitely!

[@null7454]

I feel sorry for the riddler

[@W0954]

20:17 - That's how I feel nowadays, like if there's 2 of me fighting inside me :(

[@jacobshada2917]

I relate to him. A genius amongst idiots, unable to have the girl he wants, constantly pushed around by those bigger than him. Such wonderful material for an origin.

[@Octopetala]

Jacob Shada You think you’re a genius? More like some narcissistic incel

[@itonlytakes1day946]

Deathwhistle How do you know that?? Shutup and leave people alone

[@EmptyMan000]

A genius is smart enough to fix their own problems, or at least attempt to. Delusions of grandeur do not make a genius.

[@itonlytakes1day946]

EmptyMan000 Are they?pathologically the smarter you are tells that you are focused on work then your own problems

[@SweetieOpaline]

You just called yourself a genius, really lmao

[@capitalism2557]

Go riddler you can do this

[@lamarionnette2159]

Thanks a lot for making this video !

[@byDefAlt06]

+Blackie Pie hey we all knew it was coming because the change in him wouldn't have come without murdering someone who he likes or you could say he snapped

[@lamarionnette2159]

Yeah sure XD

[@HiHi-wq1fh]

Lamarionnette Ed doesn’t need Kringle when he’s got Oswald. Go Nygmobblepot!

[@JohnSmith-pl4sf]

See what happens when we treat each other poorly?... Like Edward nygma and Arthur fleck??... Villains aren't born, They're made.. and when we bully, intimidate, laugh at, label someone... We're making that person feel powerless.... And when we make that person feel powerless... It can drive that person to a dark and destructive path.....

[@gvrcia4895]

I honestly feel so bad for Nygma.

[@graciewhisenhunt2314]

6:21 breaks my heart :(

[@charbabymochi3356]

I know me too

[@mmgamer5012]

Penguin says he made the riddler but he didn’t mrs Kringle did

[@JohnSmith-pl4sf]

I have autism, the same condition as nygma, I can relate... People can find me creepy and weird... Which I don't appreciate... And some people avoid me... probably because they don't want to deal with me.... It makes me alone, depressive and sad inside... Villains aren't born, they are made.... And society makes them, we've conditioned society to make a person like juaquin pheonix's joker to exist.... We never know what the person next to us went through or has a condition.... We need to treat each other with respect and dignity.... And I hope characters like nygma and movies like joker can shed light into what can happen when we treat each other poorly....

[@mercutioescalus6782]

I always felt it wasn't his fault for becoming the "bad guy"

[@doubleg2817]

he wants to be nice to her so cute

[@АлександарМаран]

Personally I think Kris Kringle isn't good for him. He deserves better.

[@sebatroniczero2718]

What most people don't realize is that last scene is his conscience finally splitting

[@marcroth2844]

Ironically, an act of unsung heroism led to his fall into darkness. God I love this show

[@heyfuckyou361]

Ed nygma is my favorite character in all of DC. Hes so smart hes literally immune to psychos mind control.

[@cheeseburger5167]

14:14 Ed should have said ‘What another way to betray someone’ ‘STAB THEM IN THE BACK’

[@Murderous_Monk]

Ed: gets nervous when kk comes in the room also Ed: smashes a skull and screams

[@dapper_rose9347]

Ed has gotta be my favourite character in the series.

[@johannahaggarty3921]

It's always the quiet ones! everyone is obsessed with jerome/ ect, nygma is what society made him, excellent use of real life society 😎

[@Stikiduk]

11:54 did he say “say” or “stay”?

[@Mytesmyth]

Basically every simps origin villain arc

[@donnalichvarcik9358]

Cory was so handsome sexy badass and perfect to play Edward nashton nygma aka the riddler

[@rebekahwolkiewicz449]

Call him cute all you want, but in real life you’d be calling him a creep-especially with that walk by sniff.

[@TheGamingManiac]

They did a really great job with Nygma here. You feel for him because he is genuinely trying to be helpful/accommodating and only wishes for his peers to engage with him the way he cheerfully engages with them, however even in his early days he was responsible for a number of off-puting, weird and "creepy" habits. Still didn't deserve the constant disrespect

[@kole8085]

I use to get so irate with how they treated him. I related to him and whenever he was onscreen I was rooting for him. I would have jumped the moment he he showed interest. Just in general of course.

[@jonathanabrams9289]

ya know half way through this I wanted him to become a villian

[@Andy-zp3mv]

his voice is so different than later seasons

[@meradceu]

The riddler voice baby x