Edwards and Markham | Confessions of a Serial Killer | S1E06

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Beyond Crime

Beyond Crime

Күн бұрын

In 2016 a double murder shocked the sleepy village of Spalding, England. Two star crossed 14-year-old young lovers (Edwards and Markham), conspired to murder Edwards mother and sister. This case of folie a deux is the youngest recorded incident of Matricide in UK criminal history.
The police confessions are startling for the clinical justification made for the crimes. And the police took the unprecedented decision of making the recordings public because of the danger they believed the teenagers represented to society

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@tina89Blackpearl
@tina89Blackpearl 9 ай бұрын
When she gave her reason as to why she felt happy about the deaths : "um yes because my mum doesn't have to deal 30:43 with me um being like you know suicidal and she doesn't 30:50 have to wake up worrying every morning see if i'm still alive 30:56 um and my sister doesn't have to go through the heartbreak and just be emotions and stuff" I don`t buy her answer at all. I belive she saw her mother and sister as obstacles that had to be removed. I`ve been struggling with mental illness since the age of 18, and I`m 34 now. When I`m in a dark period, (form me) my anger and sadness it`s never external only internal. We all deal with thoughts and feellings differently, and we have different backgrouds. Try not to feel ashamed when you`re asking for help. I`m still finding it hard to do that, but it get`s a bit easier once you`ve started. Much love to all from Sweden 🙂❣
@VeamStream
@VeamStream 2 жыл бұрын
wrong tumbnail, those 2 killed becky
@Curious-Irish-Angel
@Curious-Irish-Angel 2 жыл бұрын
Who is Becky? Which case are you speaking on? Pls share a link...TY
@VeamStream
@VeamStream 2 жыл бұрын
@@Curious-Irish-Angel it's the case of Becky Watts
@jordanspencer2092
@jordanspencer2092 2 жыл бұрын
This is the two that klled her mum,the two on the thumbnail nail are who killed his step sister . Him and his girlfriend killed Beck Watts ,his step sister,I don't know why I they have them on the thumbnail . The story of the two on this thumbnail are on this channel ,just look for that picture on the thumbnail.
@nandinirm2234
@nandinirm2234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Curious-Irish-Angel u wil get it in "that chapter" channel
@Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter
@Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter Жыл бұрын
@@VeamStream the BBC did a special program on it.
@moserfugger6363
@moserfugger6363 2 жыл бұрын
one of Beyond's best docu series so far. tastefully done and with competent experts who provide interesting insights into the case. the original recordings of the killers also provide much more authenticity than scripted retellings. so it's pretty sad that one of their best shows is getting the least amount of attention on this KZbin channel. makes you think if most people are only watching true crime shows to satisfy their voyeuristic and sensationalist urges. so they prefer documentaries which are more flashy and driven by a dramatized narrative. out of respect for the victims i'd rather prefer those documentaries which are treating the subject matter more seriously. greetings from germany :)
@fabf7133
@fabf7133 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail is very confusing They're not even serial killers
@julietarossetti7426
@julietarossetti7426 Жыл бұрын
Yes, in that it doesn't depict Edwards & Markham; it makes me pretty dubious about the content here.
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
​@@julietarossetti7426that's Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare who murdered Matthews' stepsister Becky Watts. Totally different case, so a cock up on the thumbnail.
@julietarossetti7426
@julietarossetti7426 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightopian1982 That's precisely what I was saying...?
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
@@julietarossetti7426 sorry I wasn't having a dig. I was just pointing out who they actually are.
@julietarossetti7426
@julietarossetti7426 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightopian1982 No worries, I didn't take your comment as hostile!
@Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter
@Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter Жыл бұрын
That picture is wrong. Those two are Nathan Mathews and shauna hoare, they murdered Becky Watts.
@richardlawes2697
@richardlawes2697 2 жыл бұрын
She was definitely the dominant one. Even her choice of movies
@owenwadders3689
@owenwadders3689 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with prof Wilson about why they did it, she wanted it done, he wanted her , they both say so separately, she needs help and obviously struggling mentally! also Not sure how professor Brooke’s thinks different, and its not uncommon for women to use men to do things like this So he taking utter bollocks in my opinion
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
I think these people are better qualified than you to draw such conclusions.
@owenwadders3689
@owenwadders3689 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightopian1982 yet you make a conclusion or assumption about me knowing what?
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
@@owenwadders3689 these people are professors of criminal psychology/psychology. All I'm saying is that they're probably in a better position to understand these individuals than you or I. For the record, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think he's looking at the case from a slightly different direction to Wilson. The way I considered his opinion was that Lucas was the one who persistently knocked on the window to get Kim to let him in. Had he not done that, would she still have wanted it to happen? Also, Lucas effectively has all the power. If he'd refused to do it himself, then it's doubtful Kim would have committed the murders. He's also correct in saying that it's not usually that common for the female, particularly one so young, to be the dominant partner. That said, on the balance of things I personally agree that Kim is the driving force. She almost knew that he would do what she asked, or that he'd volunteer to kill the sister. She had the opportunity to end it by telling him she'd changed her mind. However, as Brookes says, who's to say that Lucas wouldn't have killed Katie even if Kim said she didn't want her sister dead? I think he's right about us not knowing the full story about the motivation behind the murders, or the actual conversations they had in planning it. Perhaps you could argue that neither of them were 100% right. That's what I enjoy about these documentaries, these psychologists don't always agree.
@owenwadders3689
@owenwadders3689 Жыл бұрын
@@Nightopian1982 fair enough, yes your right of course, they are in a better position and far more qualified than I, it was my opinion and I disagree with the professor, on this one, I’ve no doubt they are right most of the time, sometimes tho I think they are wrong!
@leahbeavah3806
@leahbeavah3806 4 ай бұрын
The closed captioning on this series is hilarious!
@bruggeman672
@bruggeman672 2 жыл бұрын
It's not strange they didn't leave the crime scene, where were they going to go? They were kids with no money, no driver's license, etc. Edit the one doctor is showing his bias, unwilling to allow for the girl to be equally culpable, yet she not only didn't stop him, she told him to go ahead. He's just biased in favour of the female simply for being female...
@TheMrsnikkisixx
@TheMrsnikkisixx 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare... Becky Watts' murderers. Wrong case.
@Thang292
@Thang292 Жыл бұрын
Both kids are monster 😢. People survive and become successful in Life even though they have abusive parent.Having enjoy life without respecting parents....having sex at such young age...😢the rest of their story behind bar 👍
@charlesgraham9954
@charlesgraham9954 2 жыл бұрын
Luke also believed himself to be ugly and thought he never could get a girl like Kim. played a role in wanting to please Kim not to lose her. Kim might have seen this herself, and used Luke.
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette 2 жыл бұрын
I like this channel, but what's with the silence at the start?
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
Just a pair of immature, selfish brats who as the judge said, 'lived in a fantasy world where only their feelings mattered'. Many think that after a time inside, the dawning realisation of what they've done will probably hit home, particularly for her.
@madamemaryjanesaddiction
@madamemaryjanesaddiction 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy seeing the different reasonings people come up with, as to why killers do what they do. There is a multitude of reasons. I believe many factors have to fall in place. Brain imbalance as well as maltreatment would both be present in some forms. Perception is 9/10ths the law in a person's mind. When Drs have differing opinions, that's when it is most interesting. It seems punishment isn't a deterant so much anymore. Maybe bcuz consequences aren't in their lives to begin with??🤔🤨🤧 #ivelostlovestomurder
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
It's what many psychiatrists would refer to as the 'perfect storm' of contributing factors.
@LilacDaisy2
@LilacDaisy2 2 жыл бұрын
Very drawn out, lowering the interest markedly. You're up against things like Jim Can't Swim now, so you can't rely on interviews with "professionals" to amp up the insight. So boring, I'm out at 15:00
@stephaniejenkins1840
@stephaniejenkins1840 2 жыл бұрын
They were definitely not Britain's youngest killers
@wendiwendi7956
@wendiwendi7956 2 жыл бұрын
thompson & venables & mary bell
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 Жыл бұрын
They were Britain's youngest double killers, as the papers etc correctly pointed out. Thompson and Venables and Bell killed one victim.
@doctorshell7118
@doctorshell7118 2 жыл бұрын
Cutting edge lip sink technology? Serial killer?
@loopylou6841
@loopylou6841 2 жыл бұрын
Pic shows Hoare and Mathews??
@mb4266
@mb4266 2 жыл бұрын
Millie Bobby Brown out here killin people?
@robertedwards7695
@robertedwards7695 Жыл бұрын
Like what like a like horror like story Like.😢
@LORDSTRISH-PSN
@LORDSTRISH-PSN Жыл бұрын
I spend so much time FF the video these people talk to much it’s like there are 8 year olds watching and they break it down for the 8 y old to under damn
@jf8050
@jf8050 Жыл бұрын
Why is that guy dressed like that?
@darkangelholz
@darkangelholz 2 жыл бұрын
First xxx
@birdyelke775
@birdyelke775 2 жыл бұрын
🤭😱🤭That folie a deux, pronunciation sounds like he's farting. Please, speak your poor language 🙄 instead of faire le folie du grandeur.😜😂😂😂😂
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