I Bought The World's Cheapest 250 at Walmart!

[@EdwinOlding]

Download the FREE Upside App at upside.app.link/edwin to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas.

[@c-w-h]

Pretty nice for the price.

[@eibbionlaird]

Should we stop watching GrindHard? really seems like yall arent getting along or not being paid or something. whats the deal??? i hate watching one great channel turn into 5 poor channels like all the great channels that have before

[@BrainOrberts]

I need help upgrading this old schwinn s-400 I have, my son loves it. We watch your channel all the time and want to build it faster but don’t know to start. The thing is like new chain driven, I am just lost on where to start

[@AdventureAwaits1111]

Thumbs down and leaving because you support upside. THAT COMPANY IS CROOKED AS F***! Data stealing monsters and deceitful about rewards. Tell the TRUTH. BYE!

[@samholdsworth420]

It's not free when they harvest your phones data 😂

[@RussB.]

Fun fact. You can get a 300cc big bore kit and other go fast goodies for that engine for pretty cheap. And its not too bad on reliability as long as you take care of it.

[@EdwinOlding]

I need to look into this!

[@RussB.]

@@EdwinOlding Mortch Motors has some really cheap prices and reasonable quality for Chineseium.

[@PossumSwanger4]

This is the info I was hoping to hear haha I literally just commented about changing stuff and if they make a big bore kit for it 😆

[@williamfoster4268]

There is no 300cc big bore kit for that Chinese(ZS165FMM) engine. The Titan DLX engine is a CRF230 clone. All of the "300cc" big bore kits are 250cc at most, do the math for the bore and stroke. Only the ZS174MN-5 has a legit 302cc big bore kit available.

[@PossumSwanger4]

@@williamfoster4268 yeah I kinda figured it was something like that, thats how most of the little bicycle engines or pitbikes and stuff are too on the china stuff lol all the numbers are wrong on the actual cc 😆 I just was curious if there was a kit for it in general..anything is better than stock I’d assume but yeah I definitely wasn’t expecting it to be a full 300cc either lol but this is good info and I appreciate it

[@jstimpson92]

I have a Xpro Titan 250 I got for $1200 off Amazon, I've had it 2 years now, other than being kind of slow it makes a pretty good trail bike for the price and has never let me down. I'd definitely spend the extra $ for something nicer if you plan on track use or harder riding, but if it's all you can afford it's been a good bike

[@jamescelaya3760]

I was thinking of getting a 50cc off Amazon 🤔 it's valid?

[@barron219010]

@@jamescelaya3760no unless that’s all you can buy

[@wsplandon]

do you know the fastest you’ve gone on it can it go like 45+?

[@shawnritchie6666]

@@wsplandon easily, got a xpro templar m. it will do 55-60, 65 with the wind... but if you put a smaller ring on the back, it has plenty of power to go 70-75

[@jstimpson92]

@wsplandon Fastest I've gone on my is 65 and i weigh 200lbs, I have a cheap upgraded Amazon carb though. I've heard they can get up to 70-75 with an upgraded carb and proper jetting

[@DoRC]

The carburetor is very likely tuned super lean for emissions reasons. Fixing that will probably give you quite a bit more power.

[@EdwinOlding]

Will do!

[@ManiacRacing]

100% correct. ALL the factories do this, not just motorcycles. Every modern small engine suffers the same problem.

[@bfam8056]

Wasnt expecting to see my favorite rc KZbin on here haha

[@DoRC]

@@bfam8056 :)

[@jessebedard2070]

Yeah idk much bur my first thought was carb prob needs to be set sounds like it's dying for air and not running right specially with the throttle delay being visible

[@Horacjusz777]

0:37 wtf mate, just take knife

[@huie1983]

I had one of these for several years to ride trails around my cabin. The only issue I ever had with it was the chain wore out reallly fast. Swapped it with a Renthal chain and good to go, no other issues. They're a great value for $1k. That 250 engine only makes about 13 HP so not fast by any means but fun to mess around on.

[@D_gas_bob]

2 years ago I bought a X-Pro Templer and its working great for me. I ride to work. 4 miles each way. Getting 48mpg at 3800 ft. Elevation. I bought the Templer mostly for the counter shaft, but everything China bike folks were complaining about is upped on the Templer. 6 sp. Adjustable suspension, sturdy shifter and brake pedal, overhead cam, I've had it 75mph, but it does 55 easy. It was $300 more than the 5sp models, but the no vibration interested me most. Glad I did it. Next year it will have paid for itself in gas savings over my 4x4 pickup.. Have fun!

[@JWoodcock]

What I like best about this is the number of people in the comments. It's awesome to see that (presumably) some young folks are interested in solving problems like this and making things better on their own! Im sure you're better off with a used bike in a lot of cases, but you could also learn a hell of a lot about bikes by working on one like this.

[@jgrc73]

Best comment I read all November

[@Zielloss]

It's definitely more fun getting a China bike. I assembled it myself, modified the heck out of it, handle all maintenance on my own, and have put 50k miles on mine. It's like the old Harley days where they did everything on their own. I've got my own tools and have done roadside maintenance during long trips. My friend rides with me sometimes and he uses a Kawasaki and doesn't even change his own oil.

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

​@@Zielloss dude I am fully new to Motorcycles and even driving in general,,can you please give me a pointer in the right direction to how to begin learning this maintenance and repair?? Like did you take classes to learn or just fix each problem as it began? Since there comments are talking about learning from scratch what did you do to start learning? Thank you! Your comment is really motivating since I'm trying to do the same. I rode my Electric Bike 9000 KM but didn't do any maintenance and now it doesn't run and I never want to make that mistake again when I get a real motorcycle soon and I want to start with a Dirt bike

[@Zielloss]

@@pharaohsmagician8329 I started from no knowledge as well. I got a KPX 250 that ships unassembled. Watched several tutorial videos of how to put it together and learned what most of the parts are. Then watched videos on doing each thing, e.g. checking battery, changing oil, how to flash the ECU, checking tire pressure and changing inner tube, and kept going from there with stuff like checking the brakes, changing the chain, checking suspension, valve timing, spark plugs, coolant, etc. Adding on new parts, taking it apart to repaint it, there are so many videos for everything you need now. That's what made it fun since I learned so much about the mechanics while learning to ride and what I need in case of emergencies as well.

[@ThomasBlithe]

Heck, for that price it sure beats walking

[@BobbySonnNews]

Amen my sun roof cost 5 grand im walking like hell right now 😂

[@danielcarroll5667]

And it may even go "PLACES YOU CAN"T EVEN WALK !!!"

[@mikewazowski7830]

To be fair you can buy legitimate motorcycles for under $1, 000 spend the remainder of what you're going to pay for the actual cost of the bike plus shipping to get it running most issues are very very minor to actually get it to function of properly You can go legitimate sport bike or even a older chopper or bagger for the same price you would get this for after the purchase price tax and shipping it's not to say that it wouldn't be a cool little purchase and be just as fun but there are other options

[@sleepyrasta420]

But you can't hit jumps on a sports bike or a chopper​@@mikewazowski7830

[@mattstarr2674]

No u can't the used bike market is a ripoff​@@mikewazowski7830

[@williamfoster4268]

The engine(ZS165FMM) in that bike is a CRF230 clone. The factory cam is hotter than a CRF. You need to adjust the valves, they have zero lash from the factory.

[@lesseroun0]

Thats what I was planning to write, but here it is. 😜

[@Kingsoupturbo]

If its the 229cc is more like an 80's honda 225 engine, 2 valve, I repaired a few of them last couple years, reasonable quality, 15hp ish.

[@williamfoster4268]

@@Kingsoupturbo It's not an 80's Honda 225, it's exactly what I said it was which is a Honda CRF230 clone that's 223cc.

[@Kingsoupturbo]

@@williamfoster4268 Zongshen makes a whole line of their own motors, it might be an old patent from Honda in the 80's, it never crossed over to any of the newer CRF parts when I looked.

[@kevinroark5024]

Sounds like my 87 250es bigred.

[@worldrage619]

I bought a kayo kt250 2 stroke and absolutely love it. I’ve done enduro races and everything on it. Only downside is side to the bike is stricktly the power. It actually a 230 and you have to do some mods to get it opened up.

[@MyTipCreaminBro]

Kayo is the only Chinese brand bike I’d ever consider buying. The guy who started kayo worked for Honda first for a long time

[@theta7287]

“Rather drive a slow thing fast than a fast thing slow” 100%! I’m currently putting that motor into a crf chassis to ride with my daughter :)

[@Lil_Kerch]

do NOT use the one from this video. get a zongshen 125 or 150 engine. make sure its the racing one with the aluminum block(grey/silver) instead of the cast iron block(black). you’ll thank me later

[@DentSideDee71]

@@Lil_Kerchpiranha is the best ones out they comes with kickstarts and nibbi carbs or makuni

[@theta7287]

@@Lil_Kerch it’s a zongchen 250 with e start

[@Coco-Crisp25]

How’s your project bike going?

[@theta7287]

@@Coco-Crisp25 slow unfortunately, just finishing up a wheelie machine and a “bike station” idea I’ve had, should be back at it soon though

[@Indyman4288]

They need to sell these dirtbikes at the store. We'd all be more likely to buy a brand new fully assembled 250cc for $1500 (Chinese or not) than have to find it online and pray it comes with all the parts.

[@kylecomer360]

No, we wouldn't.

[@RykerBingham-vh1th]

They sell some in store

[@MarcSherwood]

For the price, it seems like a fine bike. No, it is not great in any condition. It is not fast. Nor have great suspension, but it is not a $13K new KTM, or an $8K used (beater?) one either. This seems like a great bike to have around a cabin, or campground, that might just make people want to try a bit more of a bike.

[@justgotohm4775]

My 05 KLR 650 was equally as bad on and off road! But I could do either, at speed.

[@dawsongiardino2802]

Get a big bore, high compression piston and an upgrade brand name bigger carb and a free flowing exhaust and it’ll make a considerable difference in power. Pretty sure you can even get bigger cans for these motors too

[@NeilGaede1]

Keep it stock. It will be more reliable.

[@dawsongiardino2802]

@ those engines are so underpowered out of the box all those mods wouldn’t compromise reliability hardly at all

[@TobyTurnbull-qn3cs]

Or you could just buy a reliable bike like a Suzuki or a Yamaha and it comes with that

[@dawsongiardino2802]

@@TobyTurnbull-qn3cs true but where’s the fun in that lol

[@christopherlane5238]

@@TobyTurnbull-qn3cs Got any new Suzuki or Yamahas at 1200 usd? No? Wrong conversation, bub.

[@dazaspc]

Seems like a decent deal. I would mention that as it comes as shipped you would be doing a pre delivery during assembly. Maybe the spokes are not tightened to final tension and that could explain the dented wheel?

[@machupikachu1085]

Possibly. Or just cheap tin.

[@SmithBeatZ1]

These are the kinds of videos I love. Trying something new, different, affordable, and putting it through the paces. Maybe try doing some tune up type mods to get more power and acceleration?

[@M0T0bri]

Many old school air-cooled bikes use scoops to get extra air to cool the motor. The XR650L has always had 'em.

[@Duane2004]

I had a Opollo 250 which is essentially the same bike and I can confirm a 34mm mikuni with a jet kit and high flow air filter really wakes it up makes it close to a 230 trail bike

[@StevenShepard-z7r]

The bike looks like it runs just fine. As long as you don't beat on it for the money it works well!

[@FeatheredDino]

You should check out the X-pro Templar X. It's a bigger, license built copy of an older Husqvarna frame, it has a true 250 (249.9cc) engine (while this Titan bas a 220cc), it has a 6 speed transmission, and way better suspension.

[@dirty-moto]

I have the Templar X and I love it. Six speed but no kick starter, though the Templar M has one. The Templar X is on the tall side which can be challenging on uneven ground. Suspension's super soft with not a lot of adjustment range. I wouldn't recommend a passenger on even the X model so I don't know why they bothered with pillion pegs on the smaller Titan.

[@kaydog890]

Only double the price, too ?

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

Pro tip for people that insist on riding alone. Air tag in the helmet. Or some tracker. That way if your not heard from your found quicker then not.

[@austinfeathers7773]

I bought my first dirtbike ever its a Suzuki 450 rmz in Colorado went up a 2 hour mountain dropped the bike at the top broke the clutch handle where it was impossible to ride back down had to walk in the dark hid the bike for over a week shit sucked

[@steveseeger]

air tag only works if there are iphones near by

[@cloudpandarism2627]

@@steveseeger yeah my thoughts. pro tip would be a good GPS tracker with sim card and signal reception in the woods. airtag will do nothing

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

@@steveseeger true but it was only a example.

[@RDEnduro]

​​@@austinfeathers7773you dont need clutch though, next time just ride it its an experien ce

[@scottloersch555]

100% agree with you edwin its not a bike to go daily thrashing in the bush but would be perfect to cruise to work on or yeah have as a spare for a mate to ride 100% worth $1600 bucks couple small twaeks and wouldn't be a bad bike at all. Also if you can't bolt a direct swap with wheels nothing stopping you from relaceing the hubs to decent rims while your at it id probs go with a better quality spoke also id be straight up cutting those spokes from the hub removing the outer rim and yeeting it in the bin and stealing the spokes and rim from that 450 wheel or even look at doing a full swing arm replacement from said 450 maybe that could work also

[@stephenmarshall4414]

Note, to California buyers. This bike is not legal to sell in California. It is not California Air Resources Board (CARB) compliant. Most Chinese motorcycles are not CARB compliant. If you are a California resident and want to buy Chinese bike. Check out CSC Motorcycles. It is a dealership in Azusa, CA that sells new Chinese motorcycles that are CARB compliant.

[@pacmanquem9580]

Wtf. Thanks

[@eddiea1213]

That's what Walmart says

[@jordancardenas7564]

Stupid California laws can't even buy CO2 air rifles online because of California laws

[@Joe-hz1nw]

Cali residents get what they vote for.

[@thanatoasbingus4253]

F the gov

[@_BlueCollarGamer]

Yo edwin, I can not speak on THIS PARTICULAR BIKE, BUT, I have had VERY SIMMILAR and the front brake safety feature (for starting) was simple to work around.. Look at the inside of the levers purch and see if you see something plugging into it, if you unplug it, it should just be 2 prongs.. (kind of like the plugs on clutch safetys) Anyways, youll just unplug that wire, cut and splice. Some folks install a fuse right there in that splice, most dont, I never have. I dont know if it will be this simple on this bike but I have a good feeling it will be. This will take you 3 minutes of time and no tools except a razer and some electric tape or wire nut! Bring a zip tie along to keep things looking neat as well. Good video, This machine is looking pretty rad at that price point. I can not lie.

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

They are hope tons of people buy them and watch the video all the ad revenue will surpass a high priced bike eventually. Plus if you’re a premium member every time you watch a video KZbin pays the video creator so you don’t have ads.

[@renektop6820]

as a chinese bike connoisseur, these bikes are pretty good for the price BUT there is a lot of power to unfold (well i say alot, but realistically this makes like maybe 17hp to the wheel as it comes and you can make it reach 25hp maybe more if you are lucky, so big upgrade but not a big number) In my opinion if you want to big bore it, start from that change the oil immediatel, they tend to be shipped with what feels like cooking oil, i have found that Motul 15w40 works best for these aircooled engines then go to the usual air filter/ carb (any pwk 32-38 should work fine with a 300cc bore kit) and exhaust change the wiring to the sparkplag, like, the whole assembly, the wires they use have a lot of losses and this is probably the most bang for your buck change in these bikes (mine used to strugle to reach above 8k rpms in 5th gear and after the wiring changes it reached a whopping 10k rpms without any issues) i suggest you use parts from similar japanese bikes (xr250 for example) since this would be the most hustle free option and a quality upgrade BRAKE IN THE ENGINE, for some reason, they really change in character once they pass like 600miles change the front sprocket, go 1 size up, it will make the 1st gear usable in technical offroad and since you might free up some ponnies and torque you wont see any losses in the rest of the gears port the heads, advance timing, play around with it and see what sticks for your use, they really are like legos for adults and lastly although maybe it should be the first one on the list, do a bit of research for your model, yes 99% of these engines are the same, but if you are willing to spend some money on it maybe your best option is to straight up engine swap it to another chinese liquid cooled 250 or bigger engine, from what i saw like a year ago there are some solid options up to 350cc engines that fit most of those frames (and some twin cylinder options if you want to go freaky, i was considering making a "chinese aprilia sxv clone" with a lifan v twin engine but it required a lot of chopping )

[@donzagamingofficial8902]

I know Edwin is pretty busy with grind hard but i do like that he has his little side quests

[@FraserImageTV]

Think he might dip out ?

[@donzagamingofficial8902]

@@FraserImageTV what do u mean?

[@FraserImageTV]

@@donzagamingofficial8902 his brother left and made another KZbin. Think he will leave too ?

[@SentAndBent]

I was so close to renaming this channel "Grind Hard side quests" haha

[@keeganmosher2105]

@@SentAndBentdid you start another channel just to explore some of your own ideas separate from grind hard? Or just to have some more individual creative freedom

[@Macjeg0815]

You got some really good friends there. The fact that they were so into your cheap sick bike and tryna mod it with better wheels shows how cool this group is! I’m considering getting into dirt biking now frfr

[@musicauthority674]

I bought a Chinese quad, and I have to say it's not quite the same as a Yamaha, or a Honda, or a Polaris. but for the price it's actually a surprise what you do get. the Chinese have gotten pretty good at coping products that are made in other Countries. although the quality and performance doesn't quite match. but if a person goes into the purchase of a Chinese power sports product knowing what to expect? they will be more satisfied with their purchase. it's like the fasteners on this quad I have, especially the ones that hold the plastics together and mount the plastics on the quad. they have a tendency to vibrate loose and fall off. which means a person should buy some thread locker. in addition to their buying a power sports product that is made in China.

[@BWGPEI]

Man, you bring back happier days for me. Used to run around P.E.I. with a CanAm 125 with that new Rotax rotary valve 125 cc Two-stroke. Had a lot of fun with that and wish you the same or more with your new ride.

[@patrickcowan8701]

South America has been enjoying these bikes for years. But Walmart and Amazon in Canada doesn't offer any bikes. Honda CRF's and such are $6000+

[@STho205]

This is 1/10th of a CRF so it's really worth $600. That's how they make money on junk knockoffs. Make a lot and make 100%++ profit on each one. A used CRF would likely be best. A 600lb bike is either a tourer or heavy street...not a small motor low HP dirt driver.

[@bryanrandom6382]

x-pro is a W brand i converted their 125cc pit bike (x-pro storm 125cc) into a trike changed out the sprocket and the little 4 speed ended up topping out at 74 MPH sold it a few weeks ago i miss the little thing! the guy that bought it for his son had all nice things to say about it!

[@makaveli087]

$1200 - Absolutely. $1600 - On the fence. The wheel damage is very telling of things to come I think. It's awesome if that's legit a clone CRF250 Engine. Would be fun to swap over some proper OEM or Performance CRF parts (Probably starting with wheels lol). I am damn near shaking I need to go riding so bad after watching this!! & Awayyyy I go! BRRRAPPPP!

[@STho205]

A years old Honda, Suzi or Yam or Kaw in 250 or 200 can probably be had for 1500...will weigh half asmuch and get better gas mileage. I have an old CB250 (233cc) for just commuting. 90mpg, smooth ride, 66000 miles....I bought it with 550 miles at 2200$ back in 2018. Buy a built in Japan bike.

[@hondaservicecenter]

​@@STho205lol dude people asking 5k for 2005 bikes in KS

[@STho205]

@@hondaservicecenter if you're paying 5k for a 2006 Honda/etc 250 that cost $4k new....you're an idiot.

[@baconfacegamer792]

⁠@@STho205you’re not realistically finding a used 250 that actually runs at all under 2500

[@STho205]

@baconfacegamer792 yes. Carb era 250s are 1000 to 2000. Most of those Japanese bikes are over 15 years old, but aren't collectable. I even see old Harley Sportster, Honda small cruisers and Suzi Blvds for under 4000.

[@bigtony8978]

i got the templar x a few months ago. After jetting the carb and opening up the exhaust the power difference was significant. With The adjustable suspension and throwing on a smaller rear sprocket I can jump it and run at highway speeds. Is it motocross ready? No. Will it outrun any crf250 or klx 250 for a third of the price? Yes.

[@robertduster8508]

Ya think , the scoop scooping in air to cool the engine . Regardless of water or air cooled

[@samholdsworth420]

Exactly lol four-stroke haf scoops as well

[@geneleonzio576]

I got one of these and these bikes REALLY wake up with a new carb, full exhaust, coil, iridium plug, and a smaller rear sprocket. Its an entirely different bike now and much more enjoyable.

[@positivelynegative9149]

Those upgrades coast as much as the bike? 🤔

[@geneleonzio576]

@@positivelynegative9149no not even close lol. Like $280

[@cameron5855]

You didn’t have a knife…. But you have blow torch😂 my guy

[@wilderstewart9917]

For the dabs hahaha

[@BIGD-gj1vb]

Go to replace the fork seals. Realize you can only buy the forks. Pretty darn good for $1200 though. Seems like an SSR with a little more glitter. Cool vid.

[@wcmwfab935]

Didn't see the oil go in it? Did it come full?

[@GrindHardPlumbingCo]

It did come full!

[@yongyea4147]

It's takes gas. Not oil.

[@igoerider227]

They come full of shipping oil so that the engine internals don’t rust while the product sits in the warehouse. I would never risk running it myself but I’m on board to see what happens!

[@wcmwfab935]

@@yongyea4147 crank case definitely takes oil.

[@gabevomfell7742]

@@GrindHardPlumbingCo the shipping oil they usually send these with it trash i would replace the oil soon

[@harrygrimley4352]

My son purchased a hawk and is using it for commuting. Not very powerful and top end is around 60. But he's loving it. Original carb sucked replaced that. May do the sprockets next. Fun

[@Erk.Z71]

I choose to believe that at 6:45 you cut the video because you stopped to pet the dog and the camera didnt pick it up so you edited it out 😂

[@KDPKENNY]

Put some performance parts on it. Coil, CDI,and crd is all you need and muffler and you’ll be on top

[@ErikGustavTerrell]

Grind Hard got a Stark Varg???? Let's go!!

[@ProWhiteAntiJew]

What no way!!

[@whyareyoureadingmyname5854]

EV is the way

[@ChungKi-ql2re]

​@@whyareyoureadingmyname5854not really

[@darko_lengkeek-jakupovic]

This is the same as the Orion RX 250 sold in some places in Europe. It has a 223cc or 230cc zongshen engine, it's a Honda clone. There was once a version with a Loncin 250cc liquid cooled engine, but those are no longer available.

[@EdwinOlding]

@@darko_lengkeek-jakupovic thank you this is great information to have for when I look into upgrading it!

[@xpndblhero5170]

That's a good looking bike for a electric conversion.... It looks decent and has good suspension and it could hold a good 72v system. 😁👍

[@samholdsworth420]

Eewwww... No

[@aski1529]

Even tho it has usd forks and lingake the quality is ass

[@travishugh-m5l]

You may want to change your front sprocket. It would get rid of the totall first but then again it may be geared for a passenger,

[@maddoxthediehardbillsfan]

the fact that only 60 people have liked this is absurd i hope it get to 100k likes

[@radar8904]

Corection 6 but we wil get you to 60

[@heathbain6438]

@@radar8904I think he meant video

[@Pavel-palavel]

Are you Trippin? There are 9K likes

[@jacobh.7076]

Thank you for being one of the few who do a real review of these bikes. Everyone else always buys it and sets expectations of a bike 4x the cost. Its a Chinese clone of a Homda CG motor. 15 or 16 HP and a heavy steel frame. Great bikes for people who don't do a ton of hardcore riding. Replacement parts are stupid easy and cheap on ebay. CSC Motorcycles has great instructions on their website for maintenance too thats almost identical to most of these China bikes.

[@wcmwfab935]

Kinda neat it can be road leagle

[@EdwinOlding]

For real!

[@macaqueischeeky]

Imagine if it was road beagle!

[@machupikachu1085]

@@macaqueischeeky or a rode beagle?😆

[@schwaggybammer968]

Leagle!?!? Holy crap dude

[@capitalj1987]

People always talk drunk about Walmart 90% is user error. I worked there for 15 years. I understand the product and I live the product. It’s an amazing product and if it doesn’t work switch it out.

[@christopherlane5238]

Allow me to clue you in to the general attitude the US consumer has towards WalMart; Fuuuuuuuck walmart.

[@ryaninwa5375]

This bike is the Harbor Freight of motorcycles.

[@whateverisclever2759]

Yea I have a Lifan kpm 200 China bike and it’s literally the same company that makes the harbor freight predator engines 😅 they are pretty good

[@Spy_Pigeon_2]

Lifan made Honda motors for a very long time ​@@whateverisclever2759

[@somedude8791]

I have a Hawk 250, same engine which is really a 229 not a 250. As long as you like turning a wrench it's been pretty reliable. However I can attest the front wheel was a failure point and pancaked on me at a very low speed dig. But I did upgrade the sprockets, chain, carb, filter, exhaust manifold back, and some other odds and ends.

[@marielarebelo9194]

The torch 😂😂😂

[@Kno-ns9cs]

Yea wtf😂

[@LAIRDO-]

I bought a very similar bike last year, XPRO Templar 250. I've had no real issues with it. I adjusted the carb a little for more power and response. I need to figure out how to adjust the rear pre-load. That thing with holding in the front brake to start it is annoying as hell. Did you figure out a way to disable it? If so, please tell!!

[@johnnyc.3261]

For 1200 that seems great

[@gomezrafaelstevenlogan2305]

try upgrading it into something lighter and powerful, bike is pretty cool and probably has a lot of potential just needs fine tuning, the carb probably has something to do with emissions so try fixing that, loved the vid hope this bike stays longer in this channel.

[@Darren_Martin]

Price is now $1400 + shipping... Thanks a lot, EDWIN!! 🙄 LOL

[@PossumSwanger4]

@@Darren_Martin as of yesterday it was 1200 on walmart lol and there also was a link that popped up yesterday when I watched that had them for 1200 as well

[@PossumSwanger4]

Oops yep I just looked and that was a sale price that is now over.. sooo yep 1400 😂 damn..oh well I believe that was the price I was seeing before this video came out as well, they just had a sale recently, usually around tax time they have sales as well to clear out for the next years model.. or at least they did last year on all the xpro vaders and stuff like that

[@EdwinOlding]

Yeah, the prices constantly fluctuating at Walmart. I’ve noticed it going up or down $50 on Amazon as well.

[@PossumSwanger4]

@@EdwinOlding either way not a bad bike for the money it seems 🤷‍♂️ especially for us folks that can't afford a ktm or something but still want a new bike and not a used one that has been through who knows what lol, plus out of the cheaper bikes ive found this one looks to have the best made frame where it actually protects the motor somewhat and also seems to just be better looking than others in general

[@seashackf1]

@@PossumSwanger4 you have to be careful though, sometimes ‘cheap’ stuff is actually more expensive in the long run. If this thing constantly breaks parts or needs things things upgraded like the wheels it may not actually be cheaper than buying a used bike and fixing it. Also, this bike isn’t comparable to a KTM, or even a Honda CRF250. As people are saying it’s really a cheap 230 clone. Check out used prices of those. Might actually make more sense in the long run since they run forever.

[@BackwoodsGarageLLC.]

I feel like with a cheap big bore kit, new livery or repainting it, and hooking up all the lights would make this bike really stand out

[@OmnieStar]

when are you gonna show us your FULL crocs collections? xD Also this looks like so much fun!! TY for doing what I can't afford so I can at least watch someone do it!!! :D

[@Leg0shi570]

i have the Xpro Titan DLX 250 and its a great bike for the price. had to upgrade some things, like sprockets, valve adjustment, Nibbi carb, exhuast, and the shifter broke off after a week of riding but easily found a replacement online (parts are surprisingly easier to find than i expected) I can get my bike up to 75/80 MPH on the street and I use it for commuting and daily rider. Was sort of a pain in the bum to get street legal but my local DMV is unnecessarily strict. I've put around 1800 miles on it and they were pretty rough, riding miles, still going fine.

[@Palmyj07]

0:37 using a torch 😂😂😂😂 tell you not a man

[@miragetime2241]

Probably doing it for the views, to be unique.

[@noahmendiola-fy5el]

“UsInG a ToRcH TeLl yOu nOt A MaN” shut up u sound like a kid 😂

[@justinvanwykk6328]

Cry about it lil dude

[@DeandreMcMeans]

who cares

[@gregoryscott7088]

Using 4 emojis? Yeah, that's manly.

[@BabyJesus420]

the vibration actually caused the bolts to fall out of the brake light. i had a huge system in a 95 civic and the bass always made the bolts come out.

[@thirdgenmacgyver2626]

Budget style modding , go for a bigger carb, better muffler, different sprocket gearing

[@dellstudio10]

Good video and I’ll vouch for upside. Been using it over 2 years and it works great.

[@oddfuturv2]

so for those plastic bands pull where it connects then grab the piece thats flopping where it connects then pull away from it and it comes apart and wont snap you just fyi way faster and not burning plastic

[@lh1678]

I've got a Hawk 250 similar to your bike and you really have to eliminate the Cat Converter to start noticing a power increase.

[@BenansioHer]

What’s the name of the White Electric bike you were Riding ??

[@EverybodyEditsHacks]

1.4 mill views sheeeesh edwin big W on this one, and a good video it was indeed. Well played friend

[@MrNiceguy-z1w]

I live in a mostly flat area , do you think I could daily it going no more than 28 miles round trip 2 or 3 days a week ?? How fast dose it go on the highway?? I'm thinking I need atleast 75mph top speed would be fine ...

[@EdwinOlding]

The fastest I’ve gone is 65 and that was slightly downhill, but I haven’t held it wide-open yet because I’m still breaking in the motor. When I get it straight legal, I will take it out on the highway and do a video about the range, 0 to 60 time and top speed.

[@MrNiceguy-z1w]

@@EdwinOlding Thank you

[@Carlos-k4z1v]

If it's anything like the cheap lefan I once had you can up performance and milage with an upgrade carb needle swap,rear sprocket upgrade and dual spark plug, my POS got 90mpg, the only drawback was it drifted if a dump truck came in the opposite direction and on the highway it was worse as trucks went around but regular road and dirt it was fun.

[@dirtycommtroop]

Look for the wires coming from the switch on the front brake. Might have multiple wires because your bike has brake lights. Find the right ones and just connect them to bypass.

[@mikeh2520]

I'm curious as to what the top speed is. I had an '80's Honda XL 250 as a commuter and on/off road and it could do 55 MPH.

[@bradbeall392]

As far as 1st gear wing too low and 2nd gear being too high, I have the exact same problem with my 2014 Honda CRF250L. Could be whoever made that bike copied the gearing from the Honda?

[@andyroo3022]

Nice for the money. Some custom vinyl Graphix kit for a Husky would probably fit. I recommend putting some good quality oil in the gearbox after you run her in.

[@eddiepeake6877]

These cheap bike vids are cool to watch man good stuff!

[@brianames3074]

So 2 questions before I buy... What's the top speed, and can it wheelie?

[@kushpaladin]

find out which engine the chinese copied and whenever a part breaks replace it with a genuine part. for example i had a x-pro vader which is a honda grom copy. my clutch plates kept seizing i bought genuine Honda clutch plates and it fixed the issue

[@mrshaneyt43]

Wish we had these kind of deals here in the uk . Only real problem here is many years ago they forced all 250cc riders take a bike licence so it forced them of the roads .

[@hugoparox]

You can put a paperclip in the ecu slot for the front brake. (or whereever that sensor goes to aside from the brake lights of course.) Did that on a bike that had a bad kickstand sensor and would die as soon as you'd put it in gear.

[@yg_smittydidit7628]

Can’t wait to see the future of this Bike thank you for the content!

[@waynecurrie9017]

Im just curious if you ever found a rim replacement that will bolt on and what it came off of

[@Ryanlawrence84]

Saw your license plate. You closer to Sandpoint or Bonners Ferry? I grew up in Post Falls.

[@trasgoxana]

10:40 Is that and Electrameccanica solo with a big ass tyre sticking out the back? Would love to know more about it.

[@EdwinOlding]

That is Grind Hard Plumbing Co’s Hayabusa swapped solo! Full video of the build here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHXMqZ2roLGMa9Esi=YyuNcIEVhHF-kD7l

[@trasgoxana]

@@EdwinOlding What a crazy build, thanks man!

[@----.__]

I've been infected with the "cheap" bug many times over the last 3 decades. You certainly get bang for your buck initially, but it doesn't take long until you're saying "I'll just upgrade this" and "I'll just upgrade that" and before you know it you've spent 4 times the money on the bike and you could have just gotten a second hand monster for the same price. Realistically, this is a great bike for beginners who don't know if they'll stick with the sport or not, and who are new to looking after dirt bikes. A low up front means less lost if you quit the sport or trash the bike. Otherwise if you've got money to burn, and some sick and twisted need to ride something you wouldn't tell your mates about then grab one of these by all means.

[@-108-]

What was the make/model of the ebike your friend let you try riding?

[@brianvincent8287]

Did you check the oil before firing it up?

[@willyfromthehillies]

Is it air cooled? That would obviously be a problem for intense trail riding with hard climbs and stuff.

[@gregoryscott7088]

Did you watch the video? I was clearly stated it is air cooled, and not for intense trail riding with hard climbs and stuff.

[@daz1975ify]

That was like a warp jump when you throttled the e bike .Loving the channel

[@whateverisclever2759]

I’ve gotten a few China bikes they are awesome to mod and work on, I’d make sure you change the oil and upgrade the carb if it has one, check and lock tite any bolts you can and have fun 😊

[@averyanderson6945]

U should cut a 2x4 to put in between the wheel and the fender so u don’t bottom out the suspension when you strap it down that will blow out the suspension.

[@JamesG-k5f]

Grind hard did some cool builds but I never cared for the main guy. Glad everyone has their own channels now. Good content and cool guys. Keep up the good work.

[@kjaubrey4816]

My friend bought a Templar 250 and it can hold its own. He did upgrade the carb and the factory wiring sucks, but he has flogged the hell out of it. Oh, and if you live in a small town in Alabama, getting it registered is a nightmare.

[@kjaubrey4816]

We all went down a muddy dirt bike trail. I was on my Benelli TRK. When his son's brake lever broke, he took his son back to the truck, I parked my bike, my friend and I rode double on the Templar back in five miles and I rode his son's bike out without brakes. If you are willing to deal with some minor electrical issues, they are great bikes.

[@lightning1games]

These videos are so cool to me. I’m always looking at cheap bikes and wonder how they hold up compared to main brands

[@HaidsK2]

I bought a 900 AUD (used) chinese 250 about 2 years ago with 7 hours on it. Has now got 92 hours on it with only 1 oil change since ownership, been abused, crashed and looped so many times but it still runs. Only had to replace both levers, rear rim and chain. Makes a hell of a good party bike or bush basher

[@berendvanoosterom8784]

If you put a good carb on that thing it will give you at least one extra hp, I had a stock 28mm carb and put a polini pwk 21 on it, it could only wheelie in 1sth gear and then it also wheelied in 2nd gear, and it could drift in 3rd.

[@JustinCzujko]

Blowtorch near cardboard to cut straps?

[@starsoldier3643]

Rejet the carb. Add a straight pipe with performance muffler and change the sprocket. Unless it's efi.

[@brandonolson1959]

been seeing people rejetting the carb or putting a bigger nibbi on would love to see that and definately a rear shock upgrade

[@americanlawdawg3609]

Does it have a “break in period”?