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@elye3701
@elye3701 9 жыл бұрын
I am blown away. A really great exposition. Simple, practical and I like the verification bits. I learnt more about thermal resistance of heatsinks here than all the books and articles and datasheets I have been reading.
@testep02
@testep02 9 жыл бұрын
You know, I really wish I had found Dave's videos last. After watching these vids, it makes it really really hard to watch the videos from other people, even though they contain good information as well. His teaching style is just so in tune with how I learn and his explanations are in depth, but don't treat the listener like an idiot. This series is just brilliant.
@mmiller867
@mmiller867 8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Nicholas You're equating age with knowledge of electronics? Odd. So an 82 year old retired CEO of a Fortune 500 company with no experience in electronics is a better candidate for this channel, and a 26 year old with a master's in EE is better for Lorton? Hmmm - how's your logic circuit doing? Swinging toward the arrogant side a bit maybe?
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 8 жыл бұрын
+M Miller I think you are reading wayyyy too much into what Joseph said come on lol
@testep02
@testep02 8 жыл бұрын
M Miller Let's be honest. Electronics and computers in general are not the most exciting topics. I thoroughly enjoy Dave's ability to turn a mundane subject into something pleasant to watch. His personality is what brings me back again and again to his videos.
@Networkengie
@Networkengie 8 жыл бұрын
That dave CAD sure is some piece of sophisticated software you got. :)
@clifffiftytwo
@clifffiftytwo 6 жыл бұрын
Had a vision of factories full of engineers waiting impatiently for Dave's latest video to come out, designing away as he talks, then quick into production, the first on eBay wins!!!
@ForViewingOnly
@ForViewingOnly 14 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. So good to see electronics theory applied in a practical way. I studied electronics 20 years ago at college as part of my apprenticeship at a telecoms company, and although I came away with useful qualifications I didn't really learn much that I could apply: the course was 95% theory and 5% practical!
@exallievididonbosconcrgrou7544
@exallievididonbosconcrgrou7544 7 жыл бұрын
Dave, you're GOOD! Keep the video's coming. This video is already 7 years old when I saw it this Dec 2917. So you are now 7 years a little bit older since you made this video. But keep up the good work.I LEARNED A LOT FROM IT AND SO DO OTHERS. ATTABOY! Thanks.
@hypercoffeedude
@hypercoffeedude 6 жыл бұрын
2917!? You're from the future!? What's it like there? lol
@proyectosledar
@proyectosledar 11 жыл бұрын
excellent dave, I love your videos
@jeremiahgeo
@jeremiahgeo 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial Dave , Hats off to you .Like your Dave CAD .tells almost everything on this CKT
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I love these little design projects.
@ChrisRid
@ChrisRid 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome little circuit! I had thought about trying to make a constant-current load before but wasn't sure which route to take. New project I think!
@JuanjoAparicio
@JuanjoAparicio 9 жыл бұрын
"from a couple of junk box parts". Like CX101 meters. My junk doesn't resemble that at all :-(
@SomerledDesign
@SomerledDesign 9 жыл бұрын
+Juanjo Aparicio Perhaps a 0-1 volt analog panel meter is in your junkbox? It doesn't have to be Digital.
@JulieanGalak
@JulieanGalak 6 жыл бұрын
Finding a voltmeter in the right range that works in a grounded configuration has proven very tough. The cx101 appears to unobtanium these days. And I want a digital meter, don't care for analog for this application.
@exgenica
@exgenica 4 жыл бұрын
One doesn't have to keep the voltmeter connected all the time, so set the test unit using a regular DMM and then do the testing. It may be more convenient to have the meter built-in...but it isn't required. Or...one could set up fixed resistance value points using carbon or precision resistors as desired with a rotary switch to then set the current to some common values one might want (e.g. 100mA, 250mA, 500mA, 1000mA etc). I find in most cases I don't need an infinitely variable current load to test things.
@joshstube
@joshstube 13 жыл бұрын
Great Idea Dave! I want to build one! A request: Please add 17:17 to the next "how to entertain a geek Highlights! Especially the part about doing it with "intelligent control" ;)
@enriquecourtade
@enriquecourtade 4 жыл бұрын
5:19 absolutely important thing no explained at all. This is a video for truly advanced people. I suggest to search Rail to Rail Op amp to understand what wasn't said here.
@change_your_oil_regularly4287
@change_your_oil_regularly4287 3 ай бұрын
Umm no its not that advanced
@bob4analog
@bob4analog 7 жыл бұрын
Nice explain on the load. One bloke made one of these, but his oscillates.. and he thinks it's supposed to do that! Aaah! I knew that's not right.. your circuit verified that. His has no bypass caps.. thus oscillation. Also, excellent hack on the meter! I had done the same hack to my LED panel meter. Cheerz
@mjlorton
@mjlorton 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent...might have to put one of these together.
@Schwuuuuup
@Schwuuuuup 11 жыл бұрын
Absolute fantastic... every question I had was answered :-) I really like your stuff Greetings from Germany TOM
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider 3 жыл бұрын
The other part of the heat dissipation calculation is that the MTP3055 has a thermal resistance between junction and case of 3.13 degrees C per Watt. That means with your 11 W example, that the mosfet junction will be another 3 x 11 = 33 degrees above the case/heatsink - a little over 100 degC with a 20 degC ambient. That's within the maximum operating temperature of 175 degC for the device, but a little toastier than I like. The corollary is that your heatsink/mosfet combination has an absolute maximum power dissipation of around (175-25)/(4.5+3) = 150/7.5 = 20 W with a 25 degC ambient. You might want a better cooling solution if you start looking at higher voltages and currents - 12 V and 2 A would well exceed the capabilities of that heatsink. And to get past 50 W, you'll need a mosfet in a different package.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 13 жыл бұрын
@thenaimis Correct, that's what the original board does. Micro with constant current/resistance/power and logging capability.
@johanvandebelt
@johanvandebelt 6 жыл бұрын
I have a remark about the diagram at 16:40. In constant resistance mode, to justify Ohms law, you'll need to know the input voltage and adjust the current accordingly. Since the microprocessor sets the FET current with PWM, it also needs to monitor this input voltage. The inputvoltage (=Voltage across FET and current shunt resistor) can be monitored using a resistive divider over the input connectors. The divided voltage is then connected to a second channel of the microprocessor ADC (or use an analog multiplexer). For constant power, same story.
@kevinwalters5160
@kevinwalters5160 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the battery voltage is useful for data logging and as you note required if you want to do constant resistance (or constant power) actively controlled discharging.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 14 жыл бұрын
@cborrero2000 The opamp output gives whatever Gate voltage is required to keep the constant voltage across the load resistor. It's a standard building block circuit.
@l3p3
@l3p3 7 жыл бұрын
I like those analog teaching videos you made back then.
@Gzalo
@Gzalo 14 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Keep up the good work Dave!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 14 жыл бұрын
@brikotube No real reason, I just had a suitable one. Same circuit works with BJT's too. If you battery power the thing then the extra base current requirement of BJT's might be a problem.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 14 жыл бұрын
@Nermash Yeah, the Gossen is a damn fine meter!
@prakashveereswar5747
@prakashveereswar5747 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Dave..very useful...Please give some tips on building higher currents sources like 7 Amps constant current source. Thanks Regards.
@ernestuz
@ernestuz 11 жыл бұрын
Dale, doing it in that way creates a constant resistance load, so the current will change when the power supply voltage under test changes. Wicth Dave's circuit the current sucked from the power supply is constant.
@Nermash
@Nermash 14 жыл бұрын
Admit it, you just love that Gossen Metrawat and german craftmanship:)
@Debraj1978
@Debraj1978 11 жыл бұрын
Opamp is required to maintain the constant current. With a pot + manual intervention, you could vary the current, but the current will vary the moment supply voltage varies. Using opamp in closed loop will make sure that the current is same irrespective of any input voltage.
@robertanderson8613
@robertanderson8613 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always I would like to see a circuit for constant current and voltage both adjustable to hook to a server power supply or two supplies for 24v up too say 100a DC thanks keep them coming
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 5 жыл бұрын
24v at 100a is 2.4kw thats a lot of poer to be dissapaiting in semiconductors and a heatsink. I woud use some enameld copper wire in a tub of water, not so convinient but a lot cheaper
@arminag3827
@arminag3827 4 ай бұрын
You are better than most of university professors
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 14 жыл бұрын
@Films4You Sanyo Xacti HD1010,
@RobertGallop
@RobertGallop 14 жыл бұрын
Love it Dave, good post, more like this!!!
@exgenica
@exgenica 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained and executed. ...If you'd only gone one step more and shown how to relate the allowable maximum temperature of the MOSFET to the power dissipation of the heatsink to verify that the heatsink would adequately protect the MOSFET for the maximum current you were allowing the device to draw.
@Laogeodritt
@Laogeodritt 12 жыл бұрын
Notice that the op-amp feedback controls the DC current depending on the PWM input (because the voltage across the 1R is proportional to the current), NOT resistance. For power, P=V*I, which is the same as CC iff the supply voltage is constant (not necessarily true! Think batteries as they discharge). Constant-resistance would be to vary current according to supply voltage according to Ohm's law, i.e. you have to actively maintain the constant resistance since the OPA/NMOS system is CC.
@elye3701
@elye3701 9 жыл бұрын
I always look at the worst case scenario whenever I re-design a circuit to suit my needs and in this case I would have soldered a 1M resistor from the wiper to ground. Similar to input conditioning when I do programming. It avoid unforeseen bugs and aids troubleshooting. I also make a point of establishing and highlighting test-points within the circuit since nobody I know troubleshoots at a leisurely pace.
@azbukaChisel
@azbukaChisel 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much. you are the best!
@tabbletbuijs8366
@tabbletbuijs8366 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for sharing you knowledge, you're amazing!
@DanielsGameVault
@DanielsGameVault 8 жыл бұрын
Can this also work as an adjustable current circuit for a power supply ? Say you drop that MOSFET before the Constant Voltage (CV) side of the power supply, what would happen ?
@Matthias051
@Matthias051 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much again for the video
@richfiles
@richfiles 8 жыл бұрын
It goes all the way up to 1337. Gnarly!
@tronixstuff
@tronixstuff 14 жыл бұрын
Your junk box must be a lot larger than mine! Thanks for the very interesting vlog. :)
@00Skyfox
@00Skyfox 6 жыл бұрын
I could have sworn you had a smaller and simpler dummy load in a previous episode, but I can't find anything. Am I just imagining that or did I miss it when looking through older episodes?
@cekpi7
@cekpi7 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe LM317 he explains at start of the video?
@00Skyfox
@00Skyfox 6 жыл бұрын
Considering he says, "it's about time I probably built one," and holds up a dummy load at least twice as big as what I remembered, or thought I remembered, that implies he hasn't made one before and my memory is way off. That's why I'm confused.
@CraigTalon
@CraigTalon 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Several years old now but... hoping someone can point me to the video he mentions at the end about doing the power supply curves using the load.
@alexeyveseliev106
@alexeyveseliev106 7 жыл бұрын
It is interesting. what will happen if connect two constant current load in series. Will they go crazy?
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny 6 жыл бұрын
Аляксей Вясельеў One of them will win, and control the situation.
@Zloy_nub
@Zloy_nub 3 жыл бұрын
just what i was looking for
@enilenis
@enilenis 10 жыл бұрын
Will this circuit work as a chopper for a stepper motor driver that pulls too much current through its h-bridge or do I have to go with something more complex? Adding a heatsink to the h-bridge is not an option.
@joseveliz6979
@joseveliz6979 10 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt! (thumbs up)
@CE113378
@CE113378 9 жыл бұрын
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
@joseveliz6979
@joseveliz6979 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Hillman This is not the correct venue for such a discussion and I'm not versed enough to debate the subject. I'll attach the below as a response to your reply and leave it at that. atheism.about.com/od/knowledgeofreligiongod/a/FoolHeartGod.htm Do Christians Want Dialog, Or to Express Superiority? Calling someone a fool simply because they don't agree about the existence of a God is no way to initiate a conversation with a stranger; it is, however, a great way to communicate the fact that one isn't interested in real dialogue and only wrote in order to feel better about oneself through attacking others. This can be demonstrated most dramatically by asking if the writer agrees with the second part of the verse, which declares that "They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good." Although few Christians who quote the first portion of the verse rarely go so far as to include the second sentence, no atheist should ever fail to keep in mind that it is always there, hanging unspoken but nevertheless assumed, in the background. If the Christian doesn't agree with the second part of the verse, then they admit that it's possible to not agree with something in the Bible. If that's the case, then they can't claim that they are required to agree with the first part - but if they do agree with it, then they must admit that they can be held responsible for saying it and can be expected to defend it. If they do agree with that second part of the verse, on the other hand, then they should can be expected to defend that and demonstrate that none of the atheists they are talking about "does good." They can't get out of this by saying that it's in the Bible and therefore must be accepted as true. Christians who cite this verse are implicitly stating that atheists are corrupt, do abominable things, and don't do any good in the world. This is a pretty serious accusation and not one which can or should be allowed to pass by unchallenged. Despite numerous attempts, no theist has ever conclusively demonstrated that belief in their god is required for morality - and in fact there are many good reasons to think that such a claim is simply false. It's easy to call someone a "fool" for not accepting your beliefs, but it's much harder to demonstrate that their rejection is mistaken and/or ill-founded. That may be why some Christians focus so much on the former and not at all on the latter. They prattle on about how it's "foolish" not to see that there must be "something more" out there, but don't look to them for anything like an argument about how or why we should see this. They can't even read and interpret their own religious scripture reasonably, so how can they be expected to read nature reasonably?
@Psycho4Ever666
@Psycho4Ever666 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Hillman Leave the heart alone for fuck's sake, it just pumps blood!
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 9 жыл бұрын
Dan Hillman The wise man shouts it from the mountaintops.
@CE113378
@CE113378 9 жыл бұрын
Jose Veliz Late response here - mostly because I am busy with life. But I stand by the entire verse - as well as the entire Bible. But in doing so, let me just explain that I believe that all men (believers and unbelievers) are sinful, corrupt, and depraved. See Romans 1. Even our good deeds amount to filthy rags when we compare our "goodness" to the glory of God. I'd argue further that there is plenty of evidence in nature that the universe did not just spontaneously happen. The ordered-complexity of nature is strong evidence for a Creator. Finally, I would suggest that it is hypocritical to criticize Christians for "expressing superiority" (i.e. affirming Scripture) while praising an individual who is smugly and rudely not only expressing superiority, but also ridiculing Christians (by wearing an FSM shirt).
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 жыл бұрын
Useful, I think I'll build one of these. I'm surprised not to find anything like this on eBay.
@Darkfuturee
@Darkfuturee 3 жыл бұрын
HEY DEAVE, WHAT A BOUT A NEW VIDEO LIKE THIS, WHAT'S NEW IN POWER SUPLY TESTING!
@mnovo
@mnovo 10 жыл бұрын
@SuperRnine PSU positive voltage is connected to the MOSFET gate and the negative voltage to the ground.
@DaleBarnard
@DaleBarnard 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, quick question though, with the 1 ohm resistor in place can you not just connect the pot to the mosfet and change the gate voltage to increase/decrease the current? This works in my simulations so I'm struggling to understand why the Op-Amp is required. Cheers!
@sparkie21
@sparkie21 12 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. Would it be possible to use an op amp and a logic mosfet to give a variable constant current source rather than a load? I have built a similar circuit with the LM317 and fixed resistors selected by a rotary switch to give me 10mA, 20mA, 30mA, 40mA etc. But it would be nice to have a completely variable current source from 1mA up to 1A perhaps? Cheers, John.
@joe72205
@joe72205 14 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, and with the knowledge gained I am going to build a project I have been putting off: an intelligent battery charger! I have some I2C DACs from Microchip which should be very suitable for setting the opamp input voltage.
@Lagggerengineering
@Lagggerengineering 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to make one with a microcontroller!
@billysgeo
@billysgeo 12 жыл бұрын
Why did you calculate a max of 2.5A (given the 1/2 voltage divider between the opamps) and then you got only 1.3A in the actual circuit???
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny 6 жыл бұрын
BIll Geo I think it's because of wire resistance. (They were thin).
@catalinvasile9081
@catalinvasile9081 6 жыл бұрын
It would be 2.5A with a rail-to-rail opamp. The lm324 goes up to max VCC - 1.5V so the full swing for a VCC of 5V is 0 to 3.5V, divided by 2 results in the ~1.75V. Why 1.3A instead of 1.75A? I'm sure the answer is buried in the datasheet of the opamp or the tolerance of the resistors, etc
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider 3 жыл бұрын
@@catalinvasile9081 You have the right idea. The LM324 isn't going to swing above about 3.5V with a 5V supply. Since the gate threshold voltage for an MTP3055 is specified as somewhere between 2V and 4V, it's pot luck whether the circuit can actually turn on the mosfet. In the worst case scenario needed to sink 2.5A, there will be 2.5V across the current sense resistor, so the source will be at 2.5V and the gate could need as much as 4V above that just to turn on. Then as the mosfet has a minimum forward transconductance of 4A/V, it may require an additional gate voltage of 2.5/4 = 625 mV to supply 2.5 A. That means you have to design for a voltage of at least 2.5 + 4.0 + 0.625 = 7.125 V at the gate. Finally, the LM324 needs another 1.5V "headroom" which shows that you need a 9V power supply for the opamp to accommodate the worst case with that mosfet if you want to sink 2.5A. If the actual circuit limits to 1.3A, that would mean that the LM324 output and the mosfet gate are at about 3.5V and the mosfet source is at about 1.3V, leaving 2.2V as gate-source voltage, which is a bit better than what you might expect as it has a typical gate threshold voltage of 2.7 V according to the data sheet.
@juntendo6104
@juntendo6104 3 жыл бұрын
Since MTP3055 is an N channel mosfet, shouldn't you put the load resistor on the drain side? Or does it not matter in this case? I'm trying to replicate something similar with constant power mode as well
@thenaimis
@thenaimis 13 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome little project. I want to make one but I think I'd like to "crank it up a notch" and have a microcontroller involved that varies the current, takes measurements and spits them out back to a computer. Press a button, capture data and graph :-). The original use of your board seems to do something along those lines where the uC controls the current, unless I misunderstood.
@Sam-hj5ok
@Sam-hj5ok 3 жыл бұрын
The intro is so 2009 😅 Nice on tho, exactly what i was looking for
@xmed0
@xmed0 10 жыл бұрын
brilliant !
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 жыл бұрын
Something like this should be easy to scale up by increasing the number of MOSFETs fitted and by using fan-cooled heatsinks. I use a CPU heatsink from an Xbox 360, although it's not fan-cooled, but I don't need to dissipate 150W like you do! You may have to get creative when clamping a CPU heatsink, though. Mounting back-to-back might make it easier (I have a spare, unused MOSFET under mine, so each TO220 epoxy block faces the other one's metal tab, with legs sticking out opposite ends).
@arminag3827
@arminag3827 4 ай бұрын
Btw if you change the shunt resistor value to 0.5 ohms, you will have a wider current range up to 2.6 amps.
@diverfede
@diverfede 8 жыл бұрын
great one
@santoshgurral66
@santoshgurral66 8 жыл бұрын
What if the PSU voltage is less than 2.5V ? will this still work as a constant current load ?
@1995epicfail
@1995epicfail 8 жыл бұрын
G santoshkumar yes
@davorst699
@davorst699 10 жыл бұрын
Hello, since i have stumbled upon your blog i found very useful stuff here and learned something. I'm trying to build a small test rig for testing vacuum tubes and transistors under working conditions. So far i have used resistors are constant current load but as usual resistor stack is never big enough and you need to use some high power ones. So i thought why not to use variable current source instead of resistor so i'm wondering with some modifications could this circuit work in a way i imagined it should. Ofc limiting current for supply voltage is only one part of that test rig, other is how to drive gate/grid/base but that's another story and not connected to this video.
@gabiruman
@gabiruman 7 жыл бұрын
I need to test an IPSU with 9 different power rails ranging from 1.25V to 5V and current less than 1A would this design be recommend for my case? Thanks.
@parammukku
@parammukku 8 жыл бұрын
Hi , I would like to test the discharge procedure of a 24vdc (7 days autonomy )Nicad battery bank . Please advice, which is the best device to use for that application? and how can i buy the same?
@VolksTrieb
@VolksTrieb 14 жыл бұрын
@eeadata Why not? The Opamp will adjust the gatevoltage as well. You need to know the Thresholdvoltage, the amp, the max DS-Voltage and P-dead.
@Laogeodritt
@Laogeodritt 12 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that what I said earlier on transient is not strictly true. The op-amp isn't purely a proportional controller (ideally it is, in reality it has an s-dependent transfer function). You could probably add a capacitor somewhere to move a pole and increase the damping. I'd have to sit down and look at it. (Also, that's assuming you mean transient response to a control voltage change, not a change of the supply voltage-that's a different problem I've been thinking about.)
@luisalbertoparada5757
@luisalbertoparada5757 3 жыл бұрын
excelente video.... aca un nuevo suscriptor.... saludos desde Yaritagua Venezuela
@mesolsot
@mesolsot 11 жыл бұрын
I dunno if this will help but when i use pc power supply as a voltage source i noticed you dont get much out of it unless you have a load on the 5v side(maybe 12v side, it's been a while) so just hit up radio shack and grab a 5w load resistor, strap it to some old cpu heatsink w/fan and load that puppy up. =D hope that helps you get your supply into the optimal range your lookin for.
@PocketBrain
@PocketBrain 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like R35 needs a touch more solder on the top side. Don't you just love the versatility of Op Amps?
@tabarin
@tabarin 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I thought it was really informative to see these parts working together! I've been reading about opamp and linear regulator circuits lately. I was wondering about the heatsink calculation, were you adding in the junction to case thermal resistance of of 3.13 C/W from the chip? I'm wondering how that factors in thanks
@bradleyberthold4606
@bradleyberthold4606 7 жыл бұрын
Dave I'm having trouble with "drift" with the OpAmp voltage follower. I used a 1ohm, 10% power resistor, an LM324, and a IRF540 Power Mosfet. I am using a 9V power supply for the LM324 (measuring it, it actually shows about 10V) I notice that if I use this to test battery discharging I get "drift". I'll start out at say, a setting for 500ma, and as the battery voltage drops, the current *increases* , and i'm not sure why. I thought perhaps its something to do with the MOSFET changing its conductance or something? I always end up having to adjust the input pot setting over time to lower the current back to 500ma It doesn't make sense to me becasue the OpAmp should technically keep the voltage /current constant even if the resistor drifts, wouldn't it? It almost seems like my OpAmp is drifting. Also, my MOSFET doesn't get hot at all, granted I'm only running 1.5 V at 500ma , and the resistor is .5V of that (I set the OpAmp + input to .5V so I get .5A on the 1ohm resistor), so ya it's only having to handle what, 500mw, not that much I guess.
@mendebil
@mendebil 6 жыл бұрын
Luckily in 2018 you can get a 250W boost converter for $4 and limit 100W leds without heatsink
@brantwinter
@brantwinter 12 жыл бұрын
Hi - thanks for the video, I actually learnt a lot from this ! Can you give some pointers for research into scaling this up to, say, 60A ? Is the approach to parallel a few of these circuits or use a bigger MOSFET ? Any help would be appreciated.
@johnromberg
@johnromberg 9 жыл бұрын
If I understand this correctly most of the power is dissipated by the mosfet? Is there a design where the power would be dissipated by resistors? I'm thinking a big ass cap, a pwm controlled mosfet and big ass power resistors. I feel something like that would be easier to make programmable with a uC and scaled up in terms of maximum load.
@edgarricci
@edgarricci 9 жыл бұрын
What's the meaning of Logical Level MOSFET? I don't understand that. I cannot find the MTP3055 in my city. There's a replacement or equivalent transistor?
@edgarricci
@edgarricci 9 жыл бұрын
+Claudius Thanks a lot! The information s very helpful.
@RedneckTech
@RedneckTech 9 жыл бұрын
hey Dave do you have the code for the micro. i would love to see the code and math. thanks for sharing your knowledge
@eddyfuchs1
@eddyfuchs1 9 жыл бұрын
+Redneck Tech It's pretty easy, would even work with some opamp circuitry... You'll need additional sense wires and one ADC directly at the input terminals for the Voltage. Constant Power: voltage * current > threshould? Decrease Output Duty Cycle " < " ? Increase Output Duty Cycle Same goes with resistance, but voltage / current instead of voltage * current
@Beirdo1
@Beirdo1 7 жыл бұрын
Question for ya Dave... The MTP3055 you use here... is the tab of the TO-220 electrically connected to any of the pins, or is it floating? I'm hoping to be able to solder it down to a copper shim as part of my heat sinking, but I kinda need to know if that's possible or if I need an insulator which would change the strategy. The datasheet doesn't say, so I figure you might know.
@kylec410
@kylec410 6 жыл бұрын
drain connected
@ocayaro
@ocayaro 4 жыл бұрын
You are drawing that mosfet wrong. Is it an enhancement mode or a depletion mode device?
@dariusssss85
@dariusssss85 7 жыл бұрын
is it going to work if i power the op-amp from a different supply. did the gate of the mosfit will work. I was thinking to combine the two grounds? Help pls
@kildas
@kildas 13 жыл бұрын
DaveCAD :D Where can i download it?
@dubnitsky
@dubnitsky 9 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna quit killing LEDs in series in case of faults and shorts with that)), beauty!!!
@alperenalperen2458
@alperenalperen2458 9 жыл бұрын
one question. How can you make sure that the opamp's output will keep the mosfet gate on?
@renxula
@renxula 9 жыл бұрын
+Alperen Akküncü It's part of the feedback circuit. If the mosfet isn't turned on enough, the opamp's output will rise until it is.
@celesticahome
@celesticahome 10 жыл бұрын
paul i was wondering about the 10 turn variable resistor if taken to ov then would that not short the supply ...?
@geoden1645
@geoden1645 10 жыл бұрын
No. The 50K pot is wired as a potentiometer not a variable resistor. The current through the pot will be only 100uA no matter where the wiper is.
@ubuntututorials
@ubuntututorials 14 жыл бұрын
I was going to build me one of these, but I was going to use a 2N3055 power transistor as the sink element.
@Michael-w8v
@Michael-w8v 9 жыл бұрын
I have been wonder if it is possible to using 1000 watt MOSFET with MIC1337 timer (the perfect 50% cylce) while testing power supply at 12V 60A?
@letrung9199
@letrung9199 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, can I change logic fet with power one (24n60) and using 9V or event higher instead of 5v power supply, because I can't find logic fet
@-bru-NO
@-bru-NO 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. You will have to adjust the voltage divider.
@foresaken5000
@foresaken5000 4 жыл бұрын
Will something like this work for testing amperage and voltage at same time on a solar panel with a watt meter? If not could you please make a video of one that would do so for A47 volt panel or higher?
@BHR477
@BHR477 14 жыл бұрын
thanx ,, good job ,,
@gundogforge8625
@gundogforge8625 13 жыл бұрын
Hi! I need to build a dummy load for a PC power supply that can draw up to 100A and another unit that can draw up to 30A that are adjustable in steps of 10A and 5A respectively. I know my basic electronics but I would have absolutely no idea on where to start with this. I have heard MOSFETs are very scalable and can achieve this with adequate cooling, but I need a circuit diagram or something so I can make it. Please help!
@ErikOdinsvej
@ErikOdinsvej 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding testing 18650 cell : Who is right ? - the people that set the cutoff at 2.5V. or 3.0V. - I see on youtube that some test 18650 battery with different cutoff - then the result will also be different !
@K2teknik.
@K2teknik. 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the datasheet for the cells you want to test, the answer about cut-off voltage is there. And, yes, different manufacturers can have different cut-off voltages, and there can also be a difference from one series of cells to another within the same manufacturer. Some cells may even have different cut-off voltages depending on usage, , it shouldn't be easy.
@mattaikay925
@mattaikay925 2 жыл бұрын
Hello - can you suggest how I may use this to test multiple outlets on an industrial PDU.
@abcdefg3386
@abcdefg3386 10 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain to me what the voltage-follower is needed for? i know dave says it is not needed. but everyone who copies this dummy load uses the voltage follower between the pot and the current-regulator. so i guess it must be there for a reason. i simulated the thing with and without the voltage-follower in ltspice and there seems to be nearly no difference. so i really would like to know what it is good for?!
@mnovo
@mnovo 10 жыл бұрын
It is merely a voltage divider. You really only need one opamp but I added a 25k trim pot instead of the divider resistors so I could tune the max current ceiling as I was using a 12v input. The 12v was to power an isolated DC to DC chip to power my LCD meter panels on the same supply. I also added a 10k resistor between the 2nd opamp and the Mosfet to prevent ringing but I don't have an O-scope to prove anything.
@hesperaux
@hesperaux 7 жыл бұрын
Super late on this reply, but I kept the voltage follower because I used an LM358, which has two op amps in it. Rather than terminate the other op amp and have it do nothing, I kept it as a voltage follower. I imagine others did the same just to avoid leaving things hanging. If I had reason for the second op amp (like amplifying the sense resistor voltage, for example) I would have used it for that instead and just kept the voltage divider. If you want to reduce your sense resistance to, say, 0.1 or 0.01 ohms, you could amplify it by 10 or 100 to get your amps (and this would feed back to the first op amp, instead of the voltage drop itself), and even put a simple low pass filter on the output of the second op amp to stabilize the reading. Using a smaller resistance will result in less power dissipated in the resistor(s). However, the LM358 may not do very well amplifying the voltage if it is super small (so maybe avoid anything lower than 0.1ohms).
@mahmoudgaber5347
@mahmoudgaber5347 3 жыл бұрын
Can I get the PCB design and BOM to implement it in a holiday DIY project?, Thank you.
@leeYT321987
@leeYT321987 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Dave. What is the use of the extra op-amp? Why does the MOSFET need to be logic-level?
@georgievvladimir
@georgievvladimir 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to replace the MTP3055 with NPN BJT 2N3055 transistor ?
@michaelhawthorne8696
@michaelhawthorne8696 8 жыл бұрын
The FET version is easier to deal with because it is Voltage controlled and poses less of a load on the OP amp. FET's for me are the way to go, life is sooooo much easier using these devices. They're also more reliable. It maybe a good idea to include a 10K resistor from Gate to Ground just to help with ensuring Gate control reliability
@kalhana_photography
@kalhana_photography 12 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, I put together one of these on a breadboard using similar components, but the transient response seems to be pretty bad. Also, there is steady state error. Any ideas why?
@johnconrad5487
@johnconrad5487 7 жыл бұрын
why did u not measure the temp on the transistor tab?
@ljl451
@ljl451 8 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, but what determines the gate voltage?
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