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Dave shows you how it's not that hard to find that mythical $50 analog oscilloscope on ebay. At least in the US and UK.
Some brands to search for:
Tektronix
HP
Philips
Hitachi
Kikusui
Iwatsu
Hameg
GW/Goodwill
BK Precision
Kenwood
Panasonic
LG
Hung Chang
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[@AndrewSouthworth]

I was pondering buying an $800 digital scope but since I don't do electronics super often I decided against it. Now i've looked on ebay and am getting a tested used analog one for

[@lucianoalberto4760]

Im in brazil, and after months of waiting and eventually looking... Scored a hitachi v-134 (10mhz dual channel.. not that much beast but) for 30$!! Local pick up, working fine just contacts are a bit meh but they seem to be getting better with use. tl;dr keep watching, here it usually goes for around 4-5x that price but i got it for 30$!

[@GoldSrc_]

L Gameplays Nice, you should try oscillofun and youscope.

[@Jones12ax7]

+Luciano Alberto I was luck enough to find a working HP 100MHZ digital 4 channel on a local junkyard for less than $50 here in Brazil.

[@jp_engineer]

Nice price!!

[@rafaellibertini9240]

Eita aonde comprou?

[@cabeloDoPardal2]

frete é absurdo

[@devhackmod]

Thanks Dave! Your advice is awesome! I absorbed everything you said in your Drive Time Rant video, and then your video on the mythical $50 Ebay Scope and went out and landed myself a Hitachi V-1565 2-channel 100Mhz CRO for $85, shipping in! I even bought one of those Hung Chang 20Mhz rebrands for $20 (with $30 shipping) which truly makes it a $50 scope. Thanks for your good advice and looking forward to learning more from EEVBlog (from Canada)!

[@thecrikster]

Funny you should mention Goldstar. I picked up that exact one just the other day for £50. Free collection. Hopped in the car for an hours drive and had it by the weekend. Lovely.

[@JohnsonLabs]

Dave, You are spot-on with your $50 estimate. I have purchased a dozen oscilloscopes for repair, all under $50. All but 3 worked out of the box upon receipt, I paid $9.99 for a Hitachi V1065 (100 Mhz), $25.00 for a BK Precision 2025 (20 Mhz), and $25.00 for a Tektronix 475 (250 Mhz) as examples. The big trick is to be patient when using eBay, use the "add to watch list" feature to save potential buys, then it is easy to go back and decide what you want out of the "watch" list. Cheers-

[@johnhschuster]

I just gave 2 CRT base 20KHZ classic oscilloscopes; the catch was you had to take an entire lot of electronics and move it from my basement. Someone got a good collection of equipment, and I got a part of basement back, which my wife claimed immediately. Now I'm back watching videos got to get a small, inexpensive digital version. Thank you for your videos.

[@lillydoye7418]

I picked up a 100mhz dual channel scope in Japan for 7000 yen, tax free with a small discount as I am a student. (About 35 pounds sterling) Sure it weighs 11 kilogrammes, runs off 100 volts ac and did not include probes, but it was incredibly cheap, especially considering that it was from an actual, brick and mortar shop with just electrical test equipment. Japan is amazing, it is shame I could not get probes over there at the same time. The scope is an Iwatsu ss+6121.

[@brig.4398]

Samuel Doye I also have 2 Japanese made scopes, very good quality. They are old but work great.

[@timbdotus]

I picked up a Tek 2225 from eBay after I saw your video on it last month (was looking for an old scope anyway). Scored it for $75 and it turned out to be semi-local. Ended up making a gorgeous two hour drive into the mountains to pick it up. Turns out it was owned by a retired Electrical Engineer. Was in great shape!

[@marklowe7431]

One of your best videos, these scopes have worked for decades

[@cadmanans4805]

2015: I live in USA Milwaukee Wisconsin, I have been watching your pic, on Oscilloscope your right. I just pick up a ELENCO 25MHz for $40.00 it work's great. Thank,s

[@John_Ridley]

It's not often that we get to read something written by a person who has never missed a thing when reading a page of text while trying to talk at the same time. You're clearly an incredibly talented person and I'm sure we all look forward to your video on the subject.

[@johnkneiling6504]

Just got a Tek TAS 250 AND a Kikusui PAD 500-2L power supply, both recently calibrated and I working fine, from a retired E.E. for $US 110 total, local pickup via Craigslist. Don't overlook this very useful source.

[@MrCapacitator]

I have bought 2 scopes of ebay in the last month, from ebay US I paid $49 for a fully working Tek 468 100Mhz scope and from Ebay UK a fully working Hameg 605 60Mhz with useful component tester for the equivalent of $35. With ebay you just need to persevere. Great deals to be had if youre in the right place at the right time.

[@envisionelec]

I've got a skid of Tektronix 465 and 465B with the DMM option scopes I'll unload for under $100 each. All of them work and have been tested. USA shipping only.

[@brig.4398]

I picked up 2 good Hitachi scopes on ebay, one was $42. the other was in excellent condition, from the 1980's and was $75 plus $25 shipping.

[@devhackmod]

I'm in Canada and you can find scopes. First, look at craigslist and kijiji listings for your area. Make some offers. Next, if you have friends or relatives in the USA, ship to them and pick it up on a trip (or they might be able to ship it). You have to bid on Ebay and wait, eventually one will come up. Bid what you want to pay, eventually you will win something because other people miss it or just luck. Don't get in a bidding war! I'm proof that in Canada you can still buy a $50 scope.

[@capoman1]

9:00 Those completed listings aren't always correct. Those can be listings that people pulled or changed for whatever reason, and it shows the listing as "completed." But that doesn't mean that an oscilloscope was listed for $20 and didn't sell.

[@DrewDraKul]

I scored a mid 70's Leader_LBO 515b scope for $10.00 USD that just needed the pots cleaned and a couple aged caps replaced as expected in any old electronics. The location was about 90 miles from my location but I opted to have it shipped for 13 bucks(cheaper than gas in my car than driving there and back). It may not be the top of the line but it will serve my purpose and then some.

[@johnstevens2588]

I picked up a Tektronix 2215 for $39.95 plus shipping yesterday off of EBay.

[@woodlandor]

Just picked up a HP 1740A 2 Channel 100MHz scope for ~$25 USD off eBay ($60 USD shipping to Canada). Cleaned it up and works like new.

[@davidhatzenbuhler6888]

I bought my Tek 465 & Tek 2236 scopes for less than $150 each in working condition. No manuals, covers or, probes... The combination frequency counter & DMM even worked on the 2236. If you want an HP or Tek you just have to be patient.

[@BillSnitzer]

I picked up a hitachi v-212 off of Craigslist for $40 including a probe! Works great and all I had to do was drive across town and pick it up.

[@muffenme]

I can't find anywhere the amount you finding and when I find one, S&H are too costly.

[@thomasfowler2964]

Mike Blais I don't know if you're still looking, but be patient. The trick is to set up a "followed" search on eBay (don't neglect Gumtree, it works too!) optimised to your area and price range. Jump on anything suitable that pops up, because it won't be long before someone else snaps it up!

[@schlabic]

You do realize it's impossible to donate $50 in appreciation for what you do and just tell you I scored a mint Hitachi V-423 thanks to you. I spent over an hour twice this weekend, I haz a lot of valves' haz you heard or theremins RCA 1926

[@JeremyHongelectronics]

If you live in the USA then Ebay is not your only option... Check out Craigslist! I got a 7704A Tektronix Oscilloscope for $50!! Also it came with the cart!!!! Dave is right at 23:40 !!! If you are wondering what modules it came with.. It came with a dual trace amp two time bases and the spectrum analyzer module! I bought an additional dual trace amp for $25 to make the scope a 4 channel and it works like a treat! I

[@EEVblog]

Until very recently they were for double or triple that. There is a fair bit nostalgia for these first digitals.

[@PhB95]

I actually got one for free, years ago. It was being dumped by a friend's employer. My friend himself was not interested, but he got it for me, so the thing costs me one beer ;-). Worked like a charm for years, then last week a power supply transistor blew. One hour of investigation and two days to get a replacement and it's back to work :)

[@jeanious2009]

Love my Tek 465B, its over 40years old but still performs better than all of those handheld scopes.

[@whiskeyify]

I got one off Ebay for $12 plus shipping fees. It's a 60 mhz Hitachi scope. It's always good to see it powers on & shows a trace. I also found some new probes on Ebay for $10.

Totally agree with Dave, I manage to pick up tektronix 2225 50MHz with probe and manual for £39.99 on ebay, I did have to collect it myself but that was not a problem. Thanks for the advice Dave +EEVblog

[@EEVblog]

Here's a hint, the horizontal timebase is usually that big knob on the front, you turn it until you see the cycles. It's trivial, come on. Triggering, yes that is the only "tricky" part, but it's not rocket science. usually just select auto triggering and the channel you want. Then you play around and LEARN what Normal mode does etc. There are countless basic tutorials online to get anyone started in a matter of minutes. Auto mode on a digital scope doesn't teach you anything.

[@DaveMcAnulty]

There is another HUGE potential benefit If you can find a local seller via Craigslist or whatever; The probability of being able to 'geek out' with the seller is pretty high, they'll likely sit down and TEACH you how to work their old scope that they outgrew. -- Happy owner of a $99 tek 2213

[@quesocat42069]

We had a couple new people show up at our hackerspace last week and they all were familiar with your channel! We decided on a 'take apart night' for that night's meeting to clear out a bunch of junk that was sitting around and everyone kept saying "Don't turn it on, TAKE IT APART!"

[@AikoukaOokami]

just ordered my hitachi v212 for 50 bucks with 15 shipping fully working with no probes. i live in the US

[@einball]

Yep, I got a HP 100Mhz DualChannel Scope for 70 bucks. The Uncal light lighted up and it didn't sell. I offered the seller 70 bucks because I didn't want to pull a fast one on him. Turned out the uncal light lighted because the timebase has a dial to go off of the fixed time axis. Works fine until today :-)

[@nathanpc]

Dave, the only KZbinr in the world that can make a 26 minutes video about eBay.

[@WhitentonMike]

Another place to look for scopes is car audio hobbyists. I have seen people that bought a scope to setup their amp gains and crossovers but they became intimidated by all the knobs etc. and didn't take the time to learn to use it. So it sits in the box unused. Ask around and you may find someone willing to let theirs go cheap because they don't know how to use it.

[@cypeapplejuice]

It can so be done! I got a fantastic Hitachi V-212 for a crate of beer. :) The vertical drive was shagged when I got it, but it was only a dry joint on a power transistor. Don't forget to shoot off an email to the EE dept of your local university too :)

[@daylightbigboy]

LOL! I got an oscillograph from the 1950s for $20. It is 50 lbs of American made vacuum tubes, steel, and awesomeness! It works fantastically!

[@EEVblog]

Having bought hundreds of items including a lot of test gear on ebay, I have never been screwed once. I don't care about the feedback number, unless it's like single digits in which case I might pay some more attention.

[@waheex]

problem is loads of people are now taking this advice, therefore the price of these old scopes is climbing rapidly. SOme old shit is being sold at silly prices

[@foxyrollouts]

daves kiss of death

[@ThunderSqueak]

This works for other test equipment too if you shop around. Trick is to watch shipping because some people will list a low buy it now but a high shipping to "make up for it". I know ebay was combating the low buy-it-now/high shipping practice, but you still see it. I wonder if sellers were doing it so ebay wouldn't take such a huge bite out of the sale? Just have to take your time and shop around a bit :)

[@CoolDudeClem]

I got my 'scope for about 50, it needed a little work to get it working properly, but it suits my needs. I only go for buy it now items since I can NEVER win bids, I always get outbid at the very last second and the price raises insanely high.

[@captainmarmalade]

after losing a pile of 2 - 4 am auctions, i got a bk 2120 20mhz for $50 shipped on ebay. that was from a thrift store seller in as-is-powers-on status. it was $30 + $20 shipping, and was only that price because they sent the heavy bastard from the short 3 hours north in ca. it's not typical, as dave makes it seem, and you have to just get lucky. my suggestion is to try goodwill's online auctions (search for the link). their shipping prices suck, but it's a plan b when ebay fails. shipping is kind of a killer when it comes to these.

[@brig.4398]

captainmarmalade shipping is about $30, I picked up 2 good scopes from ebay. problem is a lot of sellers don't know how to test them so you take a chance. I'd try to get a Hitachi, I have 2 and they are old but work great, they seem to last a really long time.

[@Oerg866]

Another tip: In Germany we have something called "eBay Classifieds" (Ebay Kleinanzeigen) where you can score perfectly good Scopes at a very very cheap price rang.

[@ITubeTooInc]

Also add Fluke analog oscilloscopes to that list. Philips oscilloscopes changed name to Fluke after Fluke bought Philips' testing and measuring device division in 1993. Same scopes different names. Fluke's portable ScopeMeters are also a result of Fluke's cooperation and later take over of Philips' testing and measuring device division. In 1999 HP scopes also changed name to Agilent as most are probably aware of. But that was after the big digital scope revolution came from HP.

[@TedRobotBuilder]

I followed Dav's advice and I have to say there are some big drawbacks to these old scopes: 1)They are BIG they take up a lot of your bench space. 2) Zero features compared to even the cheapest modern scopes. 3) If you don't know-how to use it and you don't have someone to show you then you will never figure it out. They are NOT intuitive. 4) They are analog only. If you are doing arduino-like stuff you really need some digital channels. Get a ~$300 modern scope with both digital and analog in!

[@Satchmoeddie1]

Hitachi and Kikusui were what the community colleges used here in the USA back in the 1980s, when I was in school. The HP & Tektronix were the coveted scopes in the lab, but the Hitachis was fine for almost anything I ever did. They really worked great! The school bought a lot of Kikusuis, and the sold the Hitachis for $10 each! What idiots! The Hitachis were better in my opinion. Most of them were not damaged and were fully functional. Schools were dumping the old Hitachis & Kikusius at auction for peanuts. Palettes of them for under $100 and you might have 12-20 scopes on a palette. I dragged back a truckload of 465 B era Tektronix scopes for $1200. I had 60 or more scopes and over 100 vintage POLARIOD film scope cameras.

[@kratz9]

Yeah, I heard that $50 quote on The Amp Hour, and thought it was crap for a long time. I finally found a "Beckman Industrial" 20mhz dual channnel untested scope for 25 + 25 shipping. No clue how good it is but is displays a trace which was all I need for now. Took several months of on and off looking, but it finally paid off.

[@felixdPL]

I've just managed to buy HITACHI V 1085 for 100$... 100MHz 4ch, Just came...I've checked it and it's working like a charm...

[@0xCAFEF00D]

It's worth asking sellers who have listed and not sold their stuff if you can buy it. Presumably you can push the price lower. Doubt you're gonna push that 20$ oscilloscope down but sending an email is free to do.

[@AntiProtonBoy]

At one point even Dick Smith used to sell these entry level scopes around $80... brand new. Good for learning and tinkering. I use it for audio.

[@Bigrignohio]

The issue with older oscilloscopes are that the crt displays are near or past end-of-life. Other than some really expensive industrial modules, do any manufacturers make an inexpensive analog crt input to VGA or HDMI converter? I am only assuming of course that the analog crt signal is not directly compatible with analog VGA (which would be excellent if I am wrong on that). While I found a few LCD replacement projects online they seem to be for the Tektronix units that have a VGA output already. A HP 54502A with a $40 replacement mono LCD display would be everything an entry-level hobbyist like myself would need. Guess I should start doing some research.

[@walterblackledge1137]

Dave, Too funny! The Tektronix 2225 you pointed to at about 3:47 in the video is one I bought the other day. they had 4 of them and I had been hunting for a while since I watched your blog on the 2225 tweaking. I haggled them down to $110 and got two of the four they had. they showed up yesterday / Tuesday / seem to work fine. Came from some sort of Environmental lab in Indiana. the one you pointed to was relisted from that lot of 4. thanks.

[@EEVblog]

Tektronix HP Philips Hitachi Kikusui Iwatsu Hameg GW/Goodwill BK Precision Kenwood Panasonic LG Hung Chang

[@vkoskiv]

Cheapest CRO on the biggest auction website in my country was around 350€ :P

[@Bangulo]

Thanks for this video, Was always confused at what one is decent to pick up. This clears up what a decent cheap one is to look up.

[@proyectosledar]

Dave night show, excellent!!!!

[@EEVblog]

Sure, give it a try. Those figures were pretty much a guarantee that you would get it kinda bid.

[@justarel]

Might mention another way to possibly get one for a reasonable price is to hit amateur radio hamfests, swap meets, and some radio clubs have equipment auctions. My first scope was one i purchased for $5 mainly because it was a huge old Tektronix 50Mhz that was the size of a small Television and weighed a ton but worked great when i tested it with a generator another chap happened to be selling at the table next to it.

[@YQTFun]

I got a B&K 2125B with probes and original manual, not a scratch or wear marks delivered for 100.00... sweet :)

[@tHaH4x0r]

Dave is right, i bought my leader LBO 514 (goes for $100 avarage without probes and documentation) for about $40 from the dutch ebay site (marktplaats) including the original documentation and probes!

[@s.sradon9782]

my country imposes huge tariffs on any item shipped through ebay, it also has a huge black market problem.

[@mrnickbig1]

I bought an HP 54600A 100 MHz DSO that worked well, except the display jumped occasionally. I replaced 2 capacitors (1000 uF C609 and the 10 uF next to it) on the CRT power supply board. I paid $100 (free shipping), and about $2 for the capacitors. Troubleshooting and repair took about 30 minutes. And is calling the letter H "HAYTCH" an Aussie thing? And it is called Hitachi, not Hitashi. GlodStar is also a good budget brand.

[@Gammacidio]

Today I've bought my very first oscilloscope. I've got it for just 15 Euros! It's a Hameg HM 312 8

[@lorenzovanhethul1355]

How is it now? Does it work the way u wanted?

[@Gammacidio]

+Lorenzo van het Hul yes! : )

[@lorenzovanhethul1355]

Great!

[@Gammacidio]

+Lorenzo van het Hul I named it Sandro ( short form for Alessandro ) in honour of Alessandro Volta :D

[@scottbroady7640]

I stumbled on one at Goodwill a few years back for $35 us its a B&K 35 mhz and then got 2 probes from china for a buck

[@rodrigofriend5759]

i managed to get a working kenwood oscilloscope for $65, 100mhz 3 channel (altough 1 channel will only read up to 25mhz but the other 2 work great).

[@MrStarwarp2000]

When I was in the RAAF, we were spoiled! We had 1GHz Cro's (Worth $800,000 at the time). I too have been looking for another Oscilloscope, mostly with an Analog Front-End and maybe digital processing. I try to stay away from the Jaycar and novelty brands. Thanks for this video Dave, it gave me a few more avenues for search.

[@JohnDoe-sb2kj]

I use to live in San Marcos, CA great college town, great Mexican food. Now I live in central California, oh how I miss Southern California. Thanks for the advice Dave.

[@walterblackledge1137]

yes, after i give a good tear down and make sure its tweaked properly (thanks to you!).

[@onjofilms]

I bought a HP 8647A 250k-1GHz Signal generator for $2500. It was like new. Been using it for 6 years now. Yes, ebay is awesome. Now you can get them under $1k.

[@alexwild4350]

I picked up without even trying a1975 solid state Telequipment dual trace 10mhz scope with probes for £5. All working. When you have no space, and you've got nothing, that's a more than great start. Where? Local Hamfest swap meet.

[@grabaz3]

I've recently bought grundig g10/13z at auction. I'm from Poland, I paid 150 zloty, that is about 45$ with delivery! And yeah, this German oscilloscope works fine! Woohoo!

[@Rodville]

I just looked up this exact auction and the shipping to me in Florida is $21.93 and I am about 220 miles from the seller.

[@rfvtgbzhn]

What I am from Austria and there is one thing I don't understand is that the shipping from China is to Austria is often less expensive than from Austria or Germany...

[@WhitentonMike]

I don't see why calibration on an analog scope is even a consideration. Set it for 1 Volt/div and supply it with say 5V dc and see if it moves 5 divisions. If not unlock the red cal knob and tweak it to 5 div. Do the same with an audio test tone at say 1KHz from your cell phone and cal the time base. For beginners you mostly just need to know if your circuit is working as intended. You really don't need precision.

[@lexbailey]

I got a Hameg HM307 single trace analog scope for about £40 (GBP) from ebay. It's awesome.

[@FurmanZenobiusz]

I'd add Grundig to the list, they're easy to find (at least here in EU) and rather cheap. Years ago I found dual channel 20MHz MO22 for free, someone put it in the trashcan. It had only minor PSU damage (shorted cap) and since then it's my favorite analog scope, even though I have a couple of others. Few months ago I decided to buy another one, so I started watching the local auctions and it took me like 2 weeks to find one for ~100PLN + shipping (that's like ~40$).

[@EEVblog]

Yes, great point. I hear stories like that a bit. "I went to pick up the scope, and we talked for hours, and he threw in this other stuff etc"

[@JuddNiemann]

I bought my Tektronix 465b on eBay, but I paid a lot more than $50. I've always wanted a CRO with rare P11 blue phosphor. I found one in the US, but seller doesn't ship internationally.

[@darlingtonpear940]

I paid a little more for my Tek 2225, but still a great eBay deal for a great scope. Now I'm hunting for a function generator!

[@Larsi1997]

Hameg is pretty Cheap too atleast here in Germany you can get the older 20-30MHz ones for under 30 Euros

[@chrisv3097]

He did not try to sell it for twenty bucks, that was the minimum bid. no one bid so it did not sell. The ones that didn't sell that show a low dollar bid did not meet the reserve.

[@KillerNetDog]

I picked up a tek 465b with 4 probes, a heathkit 1mhz signal gen and a tek data analyser off craigslist for $200 for all three. deals are out there.

[@gingerkid427]

At 20:14, It says it didn't sell because the seller took it down. Just thought i'd say that with you ranting about how cheap it was.

[@nakchAk]

Managed to snag a Hameg HM507 on ebay for £40 a few months ago, straight out of a university lab with cal cert and probes :)

[@etechguy1009]

I got a late 90's early 2000 leader 8106a for 20$ off craigslist. Worked like a charm 100 Mhz

[@erichope1103]

Gave the kid my barely used HC 20 mhz dual scope so I needed a new seccond scope for my bench. Found a Hitachi dual 40 mhz good working for 125 Kr Norwegian. = 21 AUSIE $ Hada friend pick it up for me so the freight came down to a cold beer. Got BK transistor tester from the same guy for the very same price and the shipping went into the same cold one. It's totally possible to find what ya want for the right price with some patience and a bit of luck :)

[@IIGrayfoxII]

xmega xprotolab is a tiny oscilloscope that is in a kit form that is $50 it has digital output

[@stephenjust01]

Sadly there's something about eBay and Canada that just doesn't mix. The oscilloscopes that originate in Canada start at $70 (inc shipping) for the shell of the scope with no guts. The cheapest full scope which doesn't claim to not work is $170 (inc shipping). Expanding to worldwide, I see a sketchy single channel Tenma scope for $50, and then the cheapo usb DSO's starting around $70 before any more analog scopes show up.

[@FriaGram]

What about those little digital diy kits like the DSO138 by jye? They can be had under 20$ shipped and come with a simple bnc clip probe, have ac and DC coupling. Also is portable.

[@TedRobotBuilder]

The $50 XMEGA Xprotolab is mixed. Has 2 analog and 8 digital plus function generator. I would get that before I got an old analog scope. For $325 you can get the MSO-28 which is 2 analog 10 digital plus FFT. Both decode serial, I2C, SPI, extra.

[@TedRobotBuilder]

Pretend for a moment that you have never seen an analog scope. Think about how hard it can be to find the horizontal range -there is no auto-range. Think about how hard it is to get triggering right and to find the right time-base. Again, no auto-range. Even the sub-$100 portable scopes have auto-ranging. If someone needs a cheap scope or a starter scope I would go with the portable type. That way, when you upscale your starter scope is still useful for its portability.

[@Satchmoeddie1]

The Dollar is worth .66 British Pounds as of January 25, 2015. It has been closer to .75 Pound Sterling, but has dropped to .67 lately. The Pound has not been valued as high as $2 per for some time.

[@_a_x_s_]

Back here after 7 years... Gonna say that the auction will have a quite high price in the last few seconds. You cannot imagine that the price rises from £60 to £200 in minutes.

[@KuroDensetsu]

I scored a 300 mhz HP Digital scope for $60 shipped on ebay in the US.

[@splangley]

Dave, First scope you found in the us shipping from Florida. Great deal, but even in the country nearly 50 USD to ship so always something to be mindful of. Great video anyways.

[@madkins0128]

I have two Textronix analog o-scopes. If you can pick one up do it!! One of them is a storage type and the other one is one my father had that had three slots for the functions.

[@aneeshprasobhan]

meanwhile here in India...checked ebay, saw a total of 88 scopes new and used... -_- You Australians and Americans are really lucky....You have evrything

[@jspinks2388]

The problem is a lot these cheaper ones even with better rated HV leads/jacks are just not capable of high voltage they are limited to low stuff.