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@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 10 жыл бұрын
Many of the project images on my website at www.bigclive.com were shot on a Sony Mavica camera. It produced extremely good images with really small file sizes which made it ideal for the early days of dial-up Internet. There are times I look at the large files and crap image quality of more recent cameras and wonder if I should go back to using it! All my images these days are 640 by 480 which is does by default.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 10 жыл бұрын
These early Mavicas used the same image sensor as Sony's digital camcorders of the time, so when you took a photo, it basically just grabbed a still frame from the video sensor and saved it to disk. The later models had a 1 or 2 megapixel image sensor and could record short video clips to disk -- but you could only fit about 15 seconds of video on one disk, so it was really just a gimmick.
@Digi20
@Digi20 10 жыл бұрын
guess thats the reason for the odd vertical mirrored lens, too. they just took the whole assembly out of a camcorder and mirrored it vertical to fit in the still camera body. love the 90th tech .D
@RESULT_OF_A_BROKEN_CONDOM
@RESULT_OF_A_BROKEN_CONDOM 7 жыл бұрын
I love VWestlife
@adrielricky1335
@adrielricky1335 3 жыл бұрын
i realize it's pretty randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to watch newly released series online ?
@douro20
@douro20 10 жыл бұрын
A tractor shop up the road from where I live still uses a Mavica camera for online sales; its the 1MP model from a couple of years later. They say it's never given them any trouble from the day they bought it.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 10 жыл бұрын
Nice. I have one of these, and the "macro" zoom is incredible. It was like nothing else back in the day!
@FranLab
@FranLab 10 жыл бұрын
My first digital camera was the Nikon Coolpix 990 back in early 2000, also revolutionary with its rotating optics. Cool one Dave!
@ArumesYT
@ArumesYT 4 жыл бұрын
Copied from Casio who did that 2 or 3 years earlier, nothing revolutionary about it.
@yaghiyahbrenner8902
@yaghiyahbrenner8902 10 жыл бұрын
really appreciate the new layout with the monitor in the back.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it would be gimmicky or not?
@yaghiyahbrenner8902
@yaghiyahbrenner8902 10 жыл бұрын
EEVblog neah not actually hey, great for datasheets, product presentations or any crazy idea.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
***** I could post-edit datasheets or other shots in, but that's extra work which I'd never bother to do, and I do just like the look of the monitor there
@aserta
@aserta 10 жыл бұрын
EEVblog Either way you do it, having something behind you to display some interesting information for the things you present in the intro is cool.
@CorporalDanLives
@CorporalDanLives 10 жыл бұрын
This was an absolutely delightful teardown! I loved using these things back in the late 90s.
@compu85
@compu85 10 жыл бұрын
I used one of these cameras for quite a while. It was super handy for eBay, the pictures were already 640x480 so I didn't need to resize them, and the lens system and zoom seemed to work well. The super low quality of the .jpgs was a problem though. If there weren't so many artifacts in the .jpgs I would have used this camera for much longer, probably even gotten the memory stick adapter for it!
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 10 жыл бұрын
I have a vague recollection of a predecessor to this that recorded an analogue signal to one track of a floppy - not sure if it made it to production though
@Desmaad
@Desmaad 10 жыл бұрын
The Sony Mavica? It was produced, and it was popular with TV studios for when they had to display stills. It used it's own floppy format, though.
@voltare2amstereo
@voltare2amstereo 10 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Mavica en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Floppy
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the original Mavica line from the 80's. They used a custom format and was a different beast entirely, designed for the TV studios.
@whitcwa
@whitcwa 10 жыл бұрын
Circa 1978 I worked with an Arvin Echo Discassette which recorded one frame per track. The floppy was bigger than an LP record and was encased in a rigid holder. Because the inner tracks were considerably shorter than the outer ones, and it was an analog recording,it had a follow pot on the head actuator which changed equalization as the head moved in/out. It did not have a frame buffer, so you had to be careful about playing one track continuously lest you wear out that track.
@Djay0Epizode
@Djay0Epizode 10 жыл бұрын
EEVblog Please upload the picture somewhere
@MarcoMugnatto
@MarcoMugnatto 10 жыл бұрын
Impressed by the quality of your video. Congratulations on your setup
@trippedbreaker
@trippedbreaker 8 жыл бұрын
We picked up several of these cameras when they were introduced, to take pictures to be displayed on a television station. They worked beautifully, and were highly appreciated by everyone who got to use them.
@stridermt2k
@stridermt2k 10 жыл бұрын
I bought a used FD5 off a guy back in the day and it shot really great close-ups of some micro RC stuff I was doing at the time (2001-2002). Easy as pie to use and the images were indeed quite postable to the forums! Great stuff , Dave! Thanks!
@rubusroo68
@rubusroo68 10 жыл бұрын
awesome teardown & great to see it working still.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 8 жыл бұрын
I remember Sony Mavica since 1998. The MAgnetivVIdeoCAmera was revolutionary then. Flash storage storage media was unknown by most consumers and the magnetic floppy disk storage was very popular. Sony continuesd that practice with cameras which were recording photos in small CD-R instead of flash memory cards. First in 1998, USB ports were very new and rare in computers. Also smart media flash memory cards were very new and there weren't card readers. The SD cards appeared much later. The common way to use a photograph in a computer was to use a scanner. Scanners were affordable and popular then. Some scanners since then could directly scan the film.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 8 жыл бұрын
Most displays then had a resolution of 800X600. So a photo of 640X480 was big enough. Also the small resolution could not show problems of lens sharpness and chromatic aberration. Very convenient for the digital camera manufacturers who avoided the use of quality lenses. Since the resolution of photos was so small their size was small too. Today most photos in Instagram and Facebook are about 100-200 Kbytes. A 640X480 photo was about 30-50 Kbytes. The ambiguous 1.44 Mbytes floppy disks had a huge capacity and was easy to carry a packet of cheap ten floppy disks. The 640X480 wasn't native and not interpolated like most early digital cameras were doing. The Sony Mavica was an expensive camera with good quality. A mouse was connected through serial port. Many computers didn't even have ps/2 ports. Scanners were connected with the much faster parallel port. And that parallel port was shared with the printer.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 8 жыл бұрын
+Achilleas Labrou Mac computers had SCSI ports. Nice and easy periods then. Not so many kinds of USB connectors, FireWire, thunder port etc. However in 1998 all computers desktops all laptops had floppy disk drives. CD recorders were still very very expensive and Zip drives not affordable by anyone. The Sony Mavica like most early digital compact cameras was shooting good photos only during daylight with native ISO. The high ISO of early image sensors was horrible. The photos of Sony Mavica were equally good of early iphone models. Simply great for ordinary amateur use. Scanned film photos were still superior but the difference of cost was immense. The cost of a cheap 36 exposures film roll was 3$ and the development 6$. 9$/36= 0.25$ for each photo. Not very pricey but you have to wait for all the film to be be used, plus the development time, plus the digital scanning time.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 8 жыл бұрын
+Achilleas Labrou Each shot was important because it had a cost. This isn't bad though. Film era made photographers more careful about what they were shooting. The cost of Sony Mavica was high 1300$ but the cost of photos was nearly zero. So 1300$/0.25$=5,200 film photos. To brake-even with Sony Mavica someone had to shoot 5,200 digital photo. It seems that the film photos weren't more expensive. However people like me can shoot easily 300 photos during every day of trip. Digital cameras have spoiled photographers who are shooting constantly. Used Mavica cameras cost 50-100$ in ebay. Nevertheless most of them don't have battery or their battery doesn't work and is hard to find a battery that is working good for a Mavica cameras. The battery problem is common with vintage digital cameras. Also is hard to find a Mavica in mint condition at a low price.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I ve got a full generation of these camera's and all still work well. The Macro lens was amazing. Made a couple of vids showing them working. Sony Mavica Floppy Disc. FD7,FD73,FD83 (Part1)
@DannyPops
@DannyPops 9 жыл бұрын
Holy Crap! Thank you for these extensive looks at ancient tech! This is an impressive amount of info! Love the floppy disk.
@StephenTack
@StephenTack 10 жыл бұрын
Cool teardown Dave Jones! There is one of these FD cams at the school where I work. It was in use for taking student ID shots till just a couple years ago. Also it sounds like there is some 48/44.1KHz sample rate mismatch (or very lossy compression) artifacting in parts of your audio. Especially noticeable around @28:55 But I am an audio engineer, so may be one of a handful who would ever notice it. Cheers!
@slap_my_hand
@slap_my_hand 8 жыл бұрын
7:04 that's a mirrorless camera, not a digital slr.
@Lordniksidor
@Lordniksidor 7 жыл бұрын
Jeez those photos aren't bad, that quality is better than half the photos people put up on Gumtree
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 6 жыл бұрын
Since the late 80's videocameras were using digital image sensors. However the portable storage of digital data was very difficult and expensive then. So the digital data was converted to analog signal and saved to magnetic tapes. The Mavica with floppy disk was actually a videocamera that was saving digital data in the very convenient floppy disk. The resolution of photos was 320 X 240. For static objects it could be with double capture 640 X 480. At that time many PC monitors had the typical 800 X 600 resolution. So the 320 x 240 photos weren't small at all. This camera was very expensive and the ability of avoiding the expensive film was highly important.
@ntcarver
@ntcarver 10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. The camera setup you have on the microscope is awesome! Really looking foward to seeing more small surface mount teardowns and maybe some rework.
@saeedabulhusn4625
@saeedabulhusn4625 8 жыл бұрын
I received one of those as a gift back in the day. And it was a BIG DEAL. Awesome video :)
@Spirit532
@Spirit532 10 жыл бұрын
*bangs Dave on head* The NEX camera is not an SLR! It's a mirrorless camera!
@uuuuuuu30
@uuuuuuu30 10 жыл бұрын
durn all this newfangled technology
@stevenflanagan2995
@stevenflanagan2995 10 жыл бұрын
You're right. It is a mirrorless camera. Except it has a mirror ;p
@Spirit532
@Spirit532 10 жыл бұрын
Steven Flanagan Please explain to me on how NEX cameras have mirrors. Where specifically, that is. I am not talking about misc stuff.
@stevenflanagan2995
@stevenflanagan2995 10 жыл бұрын
Sorry I thought you were talking about the Sony camera. My bad.
@Spirit532
@Spirit532 10 жыл бұрын
Steven Flanagan They both are sony .-. I am aware that the SLT series has a translucent and fixed mirror, I own one.
@reptilegod1490
@reptilegod1490 10 жыл бұрын
I had a pleasure to use this camera around 99.It took rather good pictures compared to other digital cameras from that time period.I always wondered how it was built,thanks for video!
@ColdFusion
@ColdFusion 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! Us Australian KZbinrs should team up ;) Here's my take on the digital cameras of yester-year. [Remember Ep. 2] The Story Of The Digital Camera
@peterlake9448
@peterlake9448 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the cool video Dave!
@Debraj1978
@Debraj1978 10 жыл бұрын
I had used it during my first job, where I had to take pictures of automobile parts, which had come for servicing. The camera was very helpful to record observations and make reports. Back then, this camera was very expensive and needed special permission to use it.
@jaredjetsel
@jaredjetsel 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the microscope and video quality is great. Funny thing is I still have an old FD5 version of this camera, still has the battery and charger. What an awesome little piece of history.
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK 4 ай бұрын
I am only now getting into mavica collecting and it is incredible! The photos look like 90s. I love it. Wish you did teardown of fd91 model! It is extremely complicated!
@3beltwesty
@3beltwesty 10 жыл бұрын
These cameras were popular in the USA with Real Estate Appraisers. They shot digital images for their reports and then saved each 3.5" floppy for each job along with the paper report in the file cabinet
10 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what's incredible: the optics that camera and a few (1-2) models after had. I have a 1.2mpx version. Had to buy a usb floppy drive for it but damn... the optics quality is far better than all today's entry level digital cameras. I could compare it with a 50mm Vivitar.
@enzyme20056
@enzyme20056 9 жыл бұрын
They were fun cameras to use. We got to use them in high school in our IT class.
@redtails
@redtails 10 жыл бұрын
great technology, great teardown!
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 8 жыл бұрын
Love it! Wish I had one just because of history. I used this frequenly at work to create documentation, it was great!
@andrewmcneil
@andrewmcneil 10 жыл бұрын
This model was heavily promoted to UK schools as the digital camera to buy due to the floppy drive. They where discounted at £680. I wonder how many of these are now at the back of the coffee cupboard in school staffroom's gathering dust!
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 10 жыл бұрын
Probably here in Denmark too, I remember using this circa 2002 for the school newspaper and getting so tired of the slowness of the camera that I brought my own circa 1999 Olympus 1.3mpx camera with a Smartmedia card.
@Mulch5640
@Mulch5640 10 жыл бұрын
I smiled the whole way through this. Thanks for sharing!
@SupSecSquirrel
@SupSecSquirrel 10 жыл бұрын
I really like the microscope camera. Makes those chips looks so good.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty sweet. I can get similar zoom with my camera and macro lens, but it's not nearly as convenient to use.
@MrTridac
@MrTridac 10 жыл бұрын
Erwin Ried I love the zoom text just for the fact that it's in hex :D
@stonail665
@stonail665 10 жыл бұрын
EEVblog Hi Dave nice teardown as always . tomorrow is my dad's birthday and I want to buy a microscope camera for him, I think yours is good enough ,can you please tell me the exact product name or site address ?
@stonail665
@stonail665 10 жыл бұрын
pooya payvar ok found it :)
@michal.gawron
@michal.gawron 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave! It should be at 8.4 V, that's what full capacity of 2-cell Lithium Ion battery is (2 x 4.2 V). The lowest is about 7.0 maybe, maybe even less. :-) Don't ask me why LiIon and LiPoly batteries are marked like that - 3.7 V per cell, or 7.4 V in total, whereas storage voltage is about 3.85 and full is 4.2 V. I have no idea.
@frostfirei
@frostfirei 10 жыл бұрын
Now if you can find a battery, you have a new camera to play with. :)
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 10 жыл бұрын
The nominal battery voltage is the median or average I believe, so it correctly shows half battery capacity. Lowest for two cells would be around 6 V. Similar with 1.2 V NiCd/MH cells or 2 V Pb cell, the working voltage will be usually higher. I think it's also marked in this way to easily calculate the battery capacity in Wh from the nominal voltage.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
It's always safer to set the nominal value like in this case.
@adambaker3907
@adambaker3907 10 жыл бұрын
I used one of these throughout middle school (grades 6-8, age 11-14), and I'm 24 now, brings back a lot of memories, mostly good! haha thanks EEVblog
@DextersTechLab
@DextersTechLab 10 жыл бұрын
Can see some similarities to Sony's camcorders from a similar time, like the TRV66. The ccd / lens module looks similar to ones used in video cameras (sans the mirror). Those daft picture effects were prominent on Sony camcorders at the time as well. With the character generator working in the analog domain you have to wonder if this is more of a video camera that takes digital stills??
@Jimbaloidatron
@Jimbaloidatron 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm rather late to the party, but yes it's very much as you say, they seemed to borrow heavily from their camcorders, hence indeed the character generator and effects. I recently came across one of these, the FD-91, which has picture stabilisation, and it's got the 'SteadyShot' stickers all over it just like their video cameras did, also when you choose the capture resolution, in the fine mode, you're capturing two interlaced fields!
@SabretoothBarnacle
@SabretoothBarnacle 10 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories of using a black and white Logitech Fotoman in the early 90s. Still got some photos on the computer that were taken with it back then... Was a bit of a revolution instead of using film, getting it developed then having to scan it in with a 'hand' scanner.... sigh, those were the days :D
@mickice69
@mickice69 10 жыл бұрын
Video quality is fantastic, keep up the good work my man.
@dhpbear2
@dhpbear2 6 жыл бұрын
Another thing we take for granted: running off mains! Those (proprietary) batteries were charged by an external charger.
@billysgeo
@billysgeo 10 жыл бұрын
Cudos for the vertical monitor on the back... nice!
@AviRotstein
@AviRotstein 10 жыл бұрын
We still have the MVC-FD5, used it up until about 2002! It also had quite a usable macro mode.
@EdEditz
@EdEditz 10 жыл бұрын
Amazing how fast this technology has grown. But a powerful consumer market and big component manufacturer multinationals like Samsung, Sony etc. certainly stimulates this evolution. Curious to see what the next 20 years will bring :)
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 10 жыл бұрын
I agree, who's ready for gigapixel cameras and 1000X optical zoom. How about a 1EB flash drive? Man that would be epic being able to hold the entire web of today in one's pocket. I carry around a 500GB Verbatim pocketdrive 24/7 and its a 2011 I think. Transcend is expecting to have perfected a 1-3TB flash drive in a couple years. Dont wanna know the initial price! Will buy when when they get cheaper. It is amazing how fast things advanced, to tell you the truth my PC is almost vintage if this camera is. Funny thing is a 2001 GPU pushes 35-40FPS in Nexuiz and 25FPS in Minecraft. Not too bad for its age. All things have their time and purpose. People may laugh at cameras like this, but remember my words, in 10 years people would point at them and laugh at their "high end" phones, computers and consoles. That is unless there is a EMP or all out nuclear war (not joking, the possibility is high).
@TimFuller
@TimFuller 10 жыл бұрын
One "high resolution" photo per floppy IIRC. The zoom being optical was a bonus. I just 'upgraded' to a Sony QX-10 for my iPhone to get a true 10x optical zoom. Enjoy.
@WaybackTECH
@WaybackTECH 10 жыл бұрын
Ya I remember these. I remember a lot of people thought these were junk compared to a decent cheaper film camera. Film cam and a scanner was the preferred way to do "digital photos" back then :) I remember any flash media back then was extremely expensive and I don't think they were more than 4 or 8MB. So the FD Cams in general were better, even though the camera cost a lot, you saved the money with using cheap floppy disks. Mostly marketed to take photos for your website, which back then was childlike compared to today. 640x480 was high res back then.
@budi0251
@budi0251 9 жыл бұрын
back in 1997, it was my dream toy. Imagine you could shoot anything and have it displayed on your pc immediately in full color digital image, share the fd with friends, etc. very expensive though, more than the price of my pc back then (asus p55t2p4, pentium 120 mhz, 2gb quantum fb, 32MB EDO RAM). my, what a dream.
@snoballuk
@snoballuk 10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. One of these turned up in a box of IT junk at work recently. Amazing how big and heavy they are.
@cozzm0AU
@cozzm0AU 10 жыл бұрын
A mate of mine had one of these when they first came out, everyone had one of those friends i'm sure... I used to buy bulk lots of 50 floppies from K-Mart for about $25.00 at the time IIRC. ahhh memories ....
@drusha
@drusha 10 жыл бұрын
Dave, Sony nex-5t isn't DSLR. It's mirrorless. DSLR would be thicker due to the mirror inside, and almost comparable to the thickness of Mavica.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's an EVIL camera, or whatever you want to call it, but DSLR is still a common generic name.
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 10 жыл бұрын
Still it's strange to differentiate camera by lack of feature - mirrorless. Why not call the pocket cameras viewfinderless?
@Pro1er
@Pro1er 10 жыл бұрын
Jan Tichavský Because some "pocket cameras" do have viewfinders.
@TheAmmoniacal
@TheAmmoniacal 10 жыл бұрын
Great teardown Dave!
@reeffeeder
@reeffeeder 8 жыл бұрын
love the retro camera tear downs thanks!
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 10 жыл бұрын
Dave, did you notice when you were "recording" the photo to disk, the voltage dropped on the psu display, so you must have exceeded your 1amp limit when the floppy disk motor was spinning up. This probably caused it to be slightly artificially slow
@UNTrider2010
@UNTrider2010 10 жыл бұрын
One of my high school technology classes had one of these that we used to take photos of our projects and then include them into our power-point presentation. This was back in 2004! Now, we have smart phones that can take ~8MP( Nokia's Lumia is 41MP) or 1080p videos that can fit into our pockets.
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 10 жыл бұрын
30:33 the part mounted on an angle is a Piezoelectric shock-sensor, you will find one or two of these on a harddrive too. What it's used for in a camera with no hard disk, is the question!
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice had those at school but it had a light pipe to make the LCD viewable in sunlight! Also the microscope has an excellent picture! I suspect it is also used as a video magnifier for the visually impaired.
@shaocaholica
@shaocaholica 10 жыл бұрын
Modern 2014 compact cameras still use mirrors to bend the image 90 degrees. Any compact camera that doesn't have an extending lens typically will be using a mirror system.
@aamagg
@aamagg 10 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the photos from the floppy!
@theinsanityunleashed
@theinsanityunleashed 10 жыл бұрын
I had one of these. It was pretty cool at the time. I used to take photos with it at car shows and since the floppy had such little storage capacity I had to walk around with pockets filled with floppy disks. LOL
@tubical71
@tubical71 10 жыл бұрын
The floppy drive was the reson why i got the CAM back in´99 (used for 400DM).... And had a lot of fun with it. As one can use it for macro photos as well with no lens change...:)
@scuzzo7
@scuzzo7 9 жыл бұрын
Had one! And it got stolen, sadly.. And technically, I never had one, it was my dad's! Anyway, I figure it must have a regular Sony video CCD, as the pictures are interlaced! Also, there was actually a floppy to memory stick adapter for it, although that was very hard to find. Great device though!
@h0ll0wm9n
@h0ll0wm9n 10 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Dave! Great videography (esp. the macro segment with sensor), editing (video is just the right length ... not a lot of rambling), and gentle deconstruction (would be neat to be able to still use it ... or eBay it ... etc.). Would be cool to have look at the image files that were captured....
@MrAlbedo39
@MrAlbedo39 9 жыл бұрын
I still have my MVC-FD7 (with battery, no less). Dave's right; these things were super-convenient. I got several years of use out of mine.
@JTLowry
@JTLowry 10 жыл бұрын
I used to have a MVC-FD73. Also ran into later one that used CD-RWs instead of floppy discs at school.
@jan.tichavsky
@jan.tichavsky 10 жыл бұрын
That f/1.8 zoom lens was state of the art. I doubt there is any 10x zoom lens with such fast aperture these days. I used Casio QV-3000EX as the second digital camera (not actually mine). Made in 2000, had 3 Mpix and wonderful Canon optics with 3x zoom and f/2.0-f/2.5 which were still really professional parameters the regular compacts couldn't match. It run of 4 AA batteries (and burned them quickly) :) But the image quality was really great on that, the pictures are still usable even on today's monitors at full screen.
@supercybercow5388
@supercybercow5388 6 жыл бұрын
When that floppy dropped out my face made a big smile
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 10 жыл бұрын
Shortly after that, Panasonic came out with the PV-SD4090 which could not only use floppies, but LS120 super discs as well. It was my first digital in 1999 1.3 mega pixel and the floppy compatibility was great to use on any computer, no cable or software required. It's still listed on Amazon!
@billysgeo
@billysgeo 10 жыл бұрын
...and I love the Samsung with the analogy dials! Does the battery level one work acceptably???
@atraxr603
@atraxr603 10 жыл бұрын
Man it definately doesn't seem like it was that long ago, but the difference inthe tech is quite astounding.
@raekane
@raekane 10 жыл бұрын
The first Sony Mavica cameras came out in the 80's. 1981 to be exact. I used a Mavica in HS back in '92. The early predigital (yes, analog) cameras used a very obscure format called VFDs (Video Floppy Disks). You could store 50 pictures on a 2" disk. Even play them back on a stand alone reader. We used a frame capture card to digtized them on to a Mac II cx. Look it up on Wikipedia
@secularmerica9425
@secularmerica9425 10 жыл бұрын
Always informative, thank you.
@FrankSandqvist
@FrankSandqvist 10 жыл бұрын
The audio on the Targano footage sounds a bit low-res.
@tubical71
@tubical71 10 жыл бұрын
The aliassing fits the 1996 technology of the cam just perfect ;)
@kolrabi
@kolrabi 7 жыл бұрын
Getting a 403 on your "Original image files" link.
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave....how about more tear downs with consumer products that uses simple 8-bit micros? Flat flex and custom parts are fun...but lets see more stuff that isn't soooo custom!
@movax20h
@movax20h 10 жыл бұрын
The screen update frame rate is pretty amazing. Some current cameras are even slower than that (mostly because of crappy optics, long shutter and slow cpu for processing very high resolution images).
@paulysmith2011
@paulysmith2011 10 жыл бұрын
I have a MVC-FD71 With box and all paperwork! lol I also have two 1 gallon zip lock bags full of 3.5 floppy's. I now have no way to view the pics except the camera. Thank God it still works! :)
@NormMonkey
@NormMonkey 10 жыл бұрын
I had a Mavica FD75 back in the day. When I had mine (early 2000s) there were other media types available in other cameras but the floppy was still awesome because the disks cost practically nothing: at the time you probably had stacks of them handy. You had to fork over big bucks to get other storage media types, so you wouldn't want to buy a bunch unless you were a pro, and it would suck to lose one. Floppies, you throw a bunch in your bag, fill 'em up, read them easily and start again the next day.
@Arlind22
@Arlind22 7 жыл бұрын
The first mavica using floppys was the FD5, the FD7 was released the same year but a bit later.
@ganimed1976
@ganimed1976 10 жыл бұрын
I also have a Sony Mavica FD5 and an FD90. Both are in very good condition and I still use them from time to time. I also have a Sony MaviCap FDR3E portable floppy disk-drive with inbuilt screen. This is also a very cool item ;)
@JoeCatshoee
@JoeCatshoee 10 жыл бұрын
I remember my dad having a camera for work very similar like this around that time period when it was produced, might have even been the same model. It was great playing around with this as a kid, pretty amazing back then. Any chance we could see the images you shot?
@kalhana_photography
@kalhana_photography 10 жыл бұрын
My dad used one of these for his work back in 1998. (forensics) It could store something like 20-25 photos per disk from what I remember. (nearly as good as a film roll but cheaper) He used to have tons of disks everywhere!
@lburbo23
@lburbo23 8 жыл бұрын
I was given one of these, used, around 2000-2001. I loved taking pictures with it, but there was a problem with either the floppy drive or the drive controller itself. The camera refused to recognize any previously formatted 1.44MB IBM diskettes, unless they were formatted by the camera. The diskettes still retained 1.44MB capacity using the IBM format but, I suspect, it borked the file system. The disks worked flawlessly on the camera, but whenever I tried to use them in a PC, files were randomly unreadable.
@themaritimegirl
@themaritimegirl 8 жыл бұрын
The camera's drive probably had misaligned heads.
@CassetteMaster
@CassetteMaster 10 жыл бұрын
My dad used on of these cameras back in the day.
@ZeroMass
@ZeroMass 10 жыл бұрын
Never knew Sony released a cam with a floppy storage lol, crazy. Its no wonder they had good lenses, this cam looks like a spill over from their camcorders which have always been of good quality, especially when this cam was released.
@vovkh1
@vovkh1 10 жыл бұрын
I used to use this SONY floppy camera ~14years ago! I was a teenager back then. so much sweet memories! still got pictures with my lovely wife when we were just dating :D
@alancordwell9759
@alancordwell9759 10 жыл бұрын
Dave am I right in thinking that the early CCDs, yes they were serial output but what you got was an analogue quantity for each pixel? So in other words, you could construct a standard video signal with the appropriate clock speed? Great vid BTW love the old retro stuff!
@JoshuasRecordings
@JoshuasRecordings 10 жыл бұрын
It actually did not take awful photos! At least not as bad as I thought. Man 20KB holy cow that is low!
@loltimno
@loltimno 10 жыл бұрын
I think you’ll find as well that a lot of slim line cameras with optical zoom run with a very similar mirrored setups, even today.
@marcop3517
@marcop3517 10 жыл бұрын
Haha - I remember getting one of these at work around 98-99 from memory. Was frustrating to use with the floppy disk with its limited capacity. You could only get a dozen or so photos on each floppy. It was quickly ousted as other, more practical, digital cameras took off quickly.
@MsHUGSaLOT
@MsHUGSaLOT 10 жыл бұрын
That's very ironic. The floppy drive in this camera is a Mitsumi brand. However Sony invented the 3½" floppy drive an discs and made the original ones that I believe were in the first Macintosh.
@denimks
@denimks 10 жыл бұрын
Could you please upload those two photos? :)
@-DeScruff
@-DeScruff 10 жыл бұрын
Wow the image quality on that thing is better then I expected! I'm guessing based off the size of those jpgs a floppy could hold ~20-30 images? Thats not bad cause I seem to remember film holding around the same amount. I can imagine just how awesome it would have been to own one of these back in the day.
@JahnoKestt
@JahnoKestt 10 жыл бұрын
I used a CF card reader on my PC back in '98 which was a year old at the time. All my old PDA's also use CF. It was pretty prevalent during the 90's, but they were expensive. Compare that to a 1.44 MB diskette and it made more sense economically when it comes to consumer cameras. ;) Thanks for the video, loved it.
@andymate2006
@andymate2006 10 жыл бұрын
I remember my primary school had one of these back in 1998. I was in year 6 at the time and all the computers were being upgraded to Windows 95/98.
@jaxx751
@jaxx751 10 жыл бұрын
I laughed out loud when I saw how long it took to write to the floppy. Such nostalgia!
@loveaodai100
@loveaodai100 9 жыл бұрын
Good Video! This was my first digital camera. Quite frankly the photos taken with it are now useless but it started a new phase of photography hobby in which one could immediately review the photos and take many many photos without regard to film cost etc. And anyway, the images looked pretty good on the old CRT monitors at the time.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 10 жыл бұрын
I actually used one of those cameras in 1999, from memory it took a few seconds for the camera to save the image to floppy diskette, and of course as the camera saved the image, you'd hear that familiar sound of the drive writing to the diskette. I believe my family's babysitter also had one of these cameras, a science teacher at my school had one too and I remember reading about them in Electronics Australia. These cameras were very unique for the time. I think Sony had a later model that could even record short video clips to diskette.
@AeroworksProductions
@AeroworksProductions 10 жыл бұрын
Man I took one of those on my Honeymoon in 2000. 4 pictures then, honey I need another floppy disk :)
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