EFAP

[@nateg9358]

Less than 4 hours? Is this just the ad? Where is the video?

[@TonyStark-tj6il]

Fair

[@Bushismetal]

He's right you know.

[@rubedog961]

I've taken men who were longer than this video!

[@marcthomas5949]

Takes me longer to find a good pornhub video

[@ThePenAndTheRose]

It’s an EFAP mini. Don’t trick us with the red background

[@JonathanJStoneblack]

Something tells me Little Platoon would appreciate being introduced as, “this is my snob friend. He watches snob films.” I would personally introduce him that way out of respect.

[@gonotgentleman]

"Yes, quite. Books as well."

[@antraxxslingshots]

@@gonotgentleman You know what i hate? Fucking Books!

[@JulianDoe]

Timestamps 0:00 The Chamber Of Secrets 1:33 The Poop Dimension 5:11 Toxic Culture 12:57 The Beast Games 22:18 Better Help 23:33 Magazines Tier List 25:35 Living In A Supermarket 28:56 The Inhumane Algorithm God 33:56 Better Help 41:20 Wisecrack Main Event 44:41 Criticism vs Poptimism 47:04 Anti-Sell-Out & Jack Black 50:44 Hating vs Praising 55:12 Snobs 1:04:34 History 1:09:53 Who’s Right? 1:11:45 Referencing 1:15:17 Modern Philosopher 1:20:56 Social Reception 1:27:05 Wine Snobs 1:35:18 Aristotele 1:38:18 Cawardeness or Snobbery 1:45:51 Babylon 1:48:00 The Paint 1:50:30 Why You Love It? 1:54:12 Virtue Signalling & Pretentiousness 1:58:22 Hipster 2:00:08 Editor’s Notes 2:03:48 Bad Rap 2:06:29 Let People Enjoy Things 2:12:00 Identification 2:20:15 Cultural Nihilism & Escapism 2:26:11 Marvel movies 2:26:54 Art & Content 2:28:48 Anita Sarkeesian 2:32:48 Artistic Quality & Merit 2:33:18 Criticism, Philosophy & ideology 2:41:01 Snobs & Gatekeeping 2:45:28 Contrarians & Critics 2:49:27 Snobbery & Embarrassment 2:50:18 Popularisation Of Criticism 2:59:21 Flaxman 3:01:28 Dating App 3:02:05 Low and High Art 3:05:00 Shortcomings 3:07:25 Snobbery & Criticism 3:10:18 Cultural Palette 3:11:14 Sony, Marvel & Box Office 3:20:51 Venom 3:22:10 Anti Intellectualism 3:23:44 understanding Humanity 3:26:04 Product Placement 3:27:36 Escapism 3:29:50 Pophilosophy 3:31:24 AI & Wall-E 3:36:03 A Stange Conclusion 3:37:45 Standard KZbinrs Closing Script 3:41:34 Conclusions 3:50:25 Plans For The Future

[@MegaSpideyman]

Thanks, Julian. This is always really appreciated.

[@cupofjoe4642]

Dude…

[@theaverageDon]

You deserve all the respect and recognition given for what you do for this community 👏

[@nekonomicon2983]

You deserve an honorable mention

[@samwallaceart288]

Hank Hill is an egalitarian classical-Republican. Even when he's unknowledgable or distrusting of a out-group he absolutely respects their equality before the law. Throughout the show he's contrasted with extreme traditionalist conservatives who actively mock minorities, assert American supremacism, and call for regression on women's rights. Hank respects his wife as an equal and, while preferring The American Way and distrusting foreign things, still respects that other people have their own customs so long as he's free to disengage if he chooses to. Anyone who looks at Hank and assumes he's a bigot hasn't watched the show and is simply being racist.

[@mediocrestreams3284]

Hank is the alpha Chad cartoon dad

[@UltimateBungus]

Well said. So much love for koth

[@zombieranger3410]

Hank Hill is, from my experience of living in the rural midwest all my life, the greatest representation of an American. He has his biases and can get things wrong, but has a good heart and respects others, while also not shy from fighting if pushed. The writers resisted all urges to flanderize him by making him racist or a jerk, or even just overly nice and aloof. If any other writing team wrote for Hank Hill, he’d be saying 10 different slurs an episode because, as Kahn often puts it “they’re all a bunch of idiot inbred hillbillies”.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

There is great joy in watching Theo slowly lose his humanity watching video essays until he's just a completely hollowed out anime girl.

[@Arko777777]

First Elden Ring, then Unicron, then Arcane Season 2 and now video essays. He's going to be braindead any moment now!

[@charlesruteal9062]

@@Arko777777 He's turning hollow. Soon Mauler will get what he wants, with Theo committing a Baby Grogu.

[@xolotltolox7626]

yeah, being theo fan is like being a spiderman fan, we just loe seeing him suffer

[@DisplayThisOkay]

In case anyone was curious EFAP #66 was the first discussion of the poop dimension about 4mins in.

[@samwallaceart288]

I didn't need this, but I salute your service to the people who do. If only someone would tell me where to find the CGI Badgers bit.

[@charlesruteal9062]

​@@samwallaceart288Didn't Some Eejit animate that bit? The Michael Waldron one, there's even a time stamp: 1:54:37 of episode 200-1 (though the part about badgers is a couple minutes further in).

[@samwallaceart288]

@@charlesruteal9062 I salute you! MauLer and Rags becoming two cigar-munching executives talking over each other with new demands and budget notes had me dying.

[@HiddenHandMedia]

Duuuuhhh !

[@charlesruteal9062]

@@samwallaceart288 Glad to help, that animation is probably the best of Some Eejit's EFAP work (considering there's ZSJL Halloween intro and the classic Fringy breakdown, that's saying a lot). I'm surprised that it flew under the radar, but I guess that's because it's relatively new.

[@Gaizure]

After basically skipping the last 5 efaps it’s nice to get back into it

[@samwallaceart288]

It's a nice return to the classics. I don't mind the shorter length if it helps them keep a sane work schedule

[@carlykub]

Same I’m so tired of skipping the full breakdowns of the new sludge coming out, I WANNA SEE THE VIDEO RESPONSES THIS IS WHAT WE ALL CAME FORRRRRR

[@samwallaceart288]

SJW Translation: "Snobbish behavior was invented by rich people to look down on poor, but this became a learned behavior throughout our society for anyone to use superficial markers of "quality" and "objectivity" to prove that they are superior to the people who consume blindly. "Now this SOUNDS like a negative thing our society would be better without, but HEAR ME OUT---- _sometimes_ snobbish behavior like objective criticism and gatekeeping is a GOOD thing, if the _right people_ are doing it for _the right reason._ "Some snobs like movie critics just ruin people's enjoyment in movies because of superficial things like counting plot holes and rating the color grading; but OUR snobs, the _good snob_ like Anita Sarkeesian, does _important_ things like reminds society that they can do better by minorities. So don't worry: it's OK when we do it as long as we know better. "So really, snobbery is a tool that can be used for empathy or for cruelty; it's just a matter of intent. THAT'S why it's OK for me to judge people but not OK when audience-captured anti-woke grifters do it."

[@barnbwt]

If the superficial markers of virtue are apparent, we may blindly praise the product, and castigate the boorish CHUDs

[@a_fine_edition2746]

Love how much WALL-E gets brought up by Fringy lol. Every so often he goes off on a tangent about it or a specific gag from the Simpsons and I always smile at his very apparent love for these things.

[@allendalenapo3430]

Wait till he finds out what Joseph Anderson thinks of Wall-E cause let's just say JA not guesting on Efap was pure mercy.

[@bluregard3442]

He never grew up. I wouldnt be surprised if he sperged out and ended up having a picture of himself in a dress leaking

[@jonbaxter2254]

​@@allendalenapo3430Let me guess, it's a 2 hour film that discusses old and dead revolutionaries rather than the film itself?

[@ObviousRises]

The algorithm definitely is not unbiased and does make or break channels. Quality content doesn't necessarily matter if KZbin doesn't like your politics.

[@barnbwt]

Channels only 'break' if the creator makes a living off them.

[@theliato3809]

If. The algorithim doesn’t jsut go haywire

[@dubiousn00b24]

I watch efap when they come out with new episodes, I don't rediscover them every time. Developing an audience that is consistent doesn't need an algorithm.

[@barnbwt]

@ Remember back when Twitter blamed "the algorithm" for everything, which turned out to be pure, unadulterated censorship at the behest of governments?

[@barnbwt]

@@dubiousn00b24 If your goal is multiple millions of subscribers, and monetization through KZbin & subscribers...you do kinda have to play according to KZbin's rules. There's simply too much money at stake for them to allow things to happen naturally, same as with a casino. They wouldn't make as much money or have so much control over trending content (that latter one is especially valued by governments) if they just let things happen naturally, or even assisted by automated processes but in an unbiased manner.

[@stuttters]

Lol, watch Efap here? No no no, unlisted 4 lyfe!!!

[@J.Jonah.Jameson.]

7:17 Oh the AUDIENCE shadowban videos with disapproved politics and the AUDIENCE artificially restricts channel growth. Thanks Rag's, very cool.

[@KainaX122]

Different algorithm

[@dylansepper]

​@KainaX122 no, it's all a part of the same thing. KZbin has made all of their systems, from channel or video recommendations on the home page, suggested videos after a video, to whether or not a video will be promoted, its all in the same "monetization" bandwagon.

[@PickleLipsMiguel]

Yeah that didn't make sense, when there's hard evidence of shadow banning and reach throttling.

[@samwellcheck562]

Rags could at least wait til later in the video to start dropping the braindead takes, instead of making me want to click off immediately. I can appreciate the sentiment that a lot of channels probably just grift off of playing the victim, but there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence at this point that KZbin plays dirty to suppress content their activist employees personally dislike and that their algorithms for what gets promoted massively favor mainstream and milquetoast channels that get far less engagement than more spicy channels. Yeah, the DnD channels crying foul probably aren't getting engagement because TTRPGs are a small niche and their content is lazy crap. Now what about KZbin putting CNN's coverage of a news topic on the 1st page of every search while channels that get 10x the views are way lower? What about the 10,000 examples of KZbin taking down a video without even an attempt at justification just after release to take it out of the algorithm during its prime engagement hours? What about people's comments and chats getting deleted without any notification or reason given? What about the statements STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH of the people responsible for google's(who owns YT) search engines designing it to suppress results they don't like, and direct comparisons with other search engines to prove it? Are you even vaguely aware of the fact that a bunch of MGTOW channels get their channels nuked for little to no reason at all, some 9-13 times in a row, while feds and nepo babies like Myron Gaines and Andrew Tate say all the same things minus all the substance and are left alone? No attempt at controlling a conversation happening there, huh? For everyone's sake Rags, please just stick to talking about media. I don't need to know how much you don't know about anything and everything outside of your wheelhouse.

[@CoyoTWil3]

Well said

[@carlykub]

THANK YOU guys, please do more video responses that’s what got us into EFAP, I speak for a lot of people when I say we’re tired of all the full movie breakdowns 💜💜💜💜 with that being said I love you guys so much you’ll forever be my fav podcast of all time.

[@smd1876]

You're so right. I got into then way back because of all their shenanigans.😂

[@christopherkelley1664]

50:10 I wish Tom Cruise would play more villains. He was great in Collateral. His character there was great, he comes across as so smug, competent, dangerous, and organized in a way that makes you feel like he's (believably) an impossible number of steps ahead at everything.

[@samwallaceart288]

I've never been a fan of "cool guy protagonist" Tom Cruise, but he is a GENIUS at playing "complicated manic asshole". He's perfect in Jerry MacGuire, Interview with a Vampire, Collateral, Edge of Tomorrow, and Tropic Thunder because in all of those he's not there to be "liked"; he's flawed af and slowly grows on you the more you figure out how his brain works

[@christopherkelley1664]

@@samwallaceart288 Oh man I totally forgot about Interview with a Vampire. Dude nailed it. He plays it with such a patrician mystique combined with malevolence.

[@barnbwt]

IIRC playing protags is his "brand," and carefully maintained. Supposedly him doing Lex Grossman in Tropic Thunder was him thumbing his nose at people (probably Ben Stiller) who said he could only play handsome heroes. Nothing wrong with an actor embracing well earned typecasting, I suppose.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Also Tropic thunder he was an asshole, but not a villain

[@Tiltigo]

I take great joy in watching Theo be equally as frustrated by these essayists as I am.

[@TheNoonish]

Yeah, they frustrate me, and they’re everywhere. This week I opened a video about Better Call Saul and I shut it off in the middle of the third sentence. It had the Video Essay voice, it was wishy-washy, it was pointlessly preambling, and I realized what kind of video it would be and decided I wouldn’t waste 20 minutes on it.

[@tsusmildrides4937]

Rags do you really believe that the algorithm/audience is always right? Rags you have less views than finger family channels? How can you seriously believe every video gets the views it deserves?

[@dylansepper]

Yeah, not gonna lie, hearing them talk like that right before talking about the Mr.Beast games, which has had recent controversy due to claims from some people that supposedly played these games that they were rigging these games so specific people win, kinda bugged me. It bugged me even more than their like "oh, it sounds interesting" about what is essentially just a Japanese gameshow here in the US.

[@theliato3809]

Weren’t they specifically referring to people in the video using the algorithim as an excuse for their bad videos not getting traction

[@Alkalion69]

You're leaving out the context that he's talking about people losing their audience. If people were watching you but then they stop then you stopped making things they wanted to watch.

[@FisherTheOtter]

@@Alkalion69 It's because some people think views is the same as audience. Your dedicated audience is a very small portion of your most successful videos.

[@jamesmcdonnell2455]

​@@Alkalion69not entirely true. There's plenty of people that make videos I enjoy, but it goes through cycles, and a lot of the cycle is based on whether or not KZbin recommends their video. Like yeah, it's because maybe I was getting a little burnt out, so I started watching either other channels I'm subscribed to, or even totally new channels,or sometimes it's because I've seen all their current stuff and so had to watch someone else because they took a little break. The biggest "problem" is I'm only one person and can only watch so much content, especially when you factor in having to work, sleep, socialize with friends/family, personal upkeep, and simply doing other forms of entertainment.

[@MegaSpideyman]

Good to see this re-uploaded so quickly.

[@kcrr]

The only upside of the dreaded "short" efap

[@samwallaceart288]

I'm in favor of shorter EFAPs if it frees them up to do other shows, movie-reaction, and most importantly catching up on those superchats. I'd rather then keep going strong as a 2 short posts a week than watch them burn themselves out on the 10-hour ones. The long boys were epic when everyone was into it, but if they're over it and wanna switch things up, it's good that they're making a change sooner rather than later

[@kcrr]

@@samwallaceart288 I couldn't care less about the superchat catchups, but as someone who doesn't superchat I'm obviously very biased there. Nonetheless I do think the superchat catchups are pretty lame, not only do they come out so late that a lot of people don't even remember the episode too well anymore (cast included), but so many of the chats are just completely irrelevant tangents about nonsense like pokemon :L

[@samwallaceart288]

@kcrr I like their conversations from that SamWallace guy though; he's pretty cool

[@MegaSpideyman]

@@samwallaceart288 Absolutely.

[@Soubifloof]

Nothing quite like getting lectured to by a communist representation snob to define snobbery for us

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

We need to be more like Bigideas and less Fruadian.

[@chilleenoir1118]

The better help ad is possibly one of the funniest pieces of irony I've ever seen.

[@frankmerker630]

I’m 90 percent sure it is intentional and explains why the preface of the video has nothing to do with the video essay but seems more of a lamentation of having to have his videos sponsored because he doesn’t know how to exploit the KZbin algorithm with his content. He is just trying to have his cake and eat it too and is too greedy to stand on principle by still desperately trying to rake in the sponsor bucks

[@ChewliusCheeser]

i was 19 minutes late and i soon as i clicked on it, Rags says, “…and they’ll never know what we just talked about.” NOOOOOOOO!!! oh wait, i can rewind.

[@J.Jonah.Jameson.]

Before the video started?

[@ChewliusCheeser]

@ on my screen, it said “started 19 minutes ago.” that’s what i was going by.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

A sommelier isn't someone who loves high-class wine, it's someone who knows a lot about high-class wine that is paid to talk to people about high-class wine. It's an actual job, though it's a pretty niche job. You go to school for it.

[@Lampoluke]

Sommeliers are movie critics for wine. If you are a rich person that comes from a country that has no wine how are you supposed to know the wine is good? You ask a sommelier to guide you through. Also you can easily take a basic sommelier course even if you work as a waiter in restaurant that serves wine. Your clients need to be served good wine

[@bad-people6510]

I'll tell you the reason D&D channels suddenly aren't doing well, it's because Wizards of the Coast decided to piss off a bunch of people by spitting on the grave of Gary Gygax.

[@MrFeelsGo0d-YT]

Why on earth would they do that? It seems like the worst move a company can possibly make to say their founder was a bad person

[@bad-people6510]

@@MrFeelsGo0d-YT He didn't found WotC, he created D&D. He was about a degree right of center, and they can't tolerate that.

[@TheFatalcrest]

It also could be just out of reach due to other channels that are doing well. Could be their audience members swapped games? Could be that talking *only* D&D is what did it. I watched a bunch of rpg channels, still subbed up as far as I know, but I moved around a bit on what I focus on because I play multiple games/enjoy multiple games now.

[@ingrowsmith5148]

@@MrFeelsGo0d-YT Because he is not the founder of Wizards of the Coast. Gygax co-founded TSR, that was stolen from him in 1985. When the compnay was ran into bankrupcy, WoTC purchased it on the cheap in exchnage to settle their debt. The latest development is that WoTC and the Reddit moderators employed there tried to sue Ernie Gygax, Gary's son, for not putting trans people in his game. You do the math from here.

[@MrFeelsGo0d-YT]

@@ingrowsmith5148 Wow, that sucks, I'm not aware of the meta of the game, really. The farthest I've heard of weird stuff is race being changed to species in the 2024 rules

[@fallous]

Classic philosophy newb Mauler take, thinking that Gertle Flershman invented to talking when EVERYONE knows it was Hiddel Subbledees.

[@HectorLopez0217]

I agree with Cory Spazkid that Mr.Beast videos are human experiments

[@warriorscholar41]

IIRC, Michael of Wisecrack used to be a college philosophy instructor. He likely does know of the philosophers he's bringing up. That doesn't mean he isn't just shoehorning them in because he thinks he's flexing. However, ironically, his snobbery might be earnest.

[@MasterofInterspace]

12:00 Damn, I would be so honored. If I was livestreaming my rough draft and some big name came on to ask what I was doing, and what inspired me, I don't think I'd stop yapping. That's the greatest compliment you can get, someone curious of the work you do. God, such good natured interest squandered.

[@samwallaceart288]

Early on my KZbin usage I was subbed to a film breakdown guy, like an older more faux-academic precursor to Hi-Top kind of energy; like, wishes he was on Film Courage headass. In the comments me and others would suggest movies for him to suggest to and his response if he had one would always be "I only take suggestions through my Patreon". Like, deadass, he would bother to read the suggestion and type out a "I don't have time to read your suggestions" A newcomer excited to find the channel posted a suggestion and I was like "Let me guess, _you don't respond to comment suggestions, they need to subscribe to your Patreon. . ."_ and @replied me "You need to stop." Lol. I way prefer that EFAP just verbally abuses us the old fashioned way; they don't hide behind a "special course" or paywall.

[@MasterofInterspace]

@samwallaceart288 at least that's a level of care. The fact that they would take the time to not only talk to people but also engage with their opinions and arguments is a sign of care. Saying, "I don't give a shit about you unless you pay me" shows that they do not give a shit. This guy is not reviewing because he wants to, he wants to be paid for doing KZbin. Reviewing is just the easiest thing to do to get money from people in that creator's opinion.

[@samwallaceart288]

@@MasterofInterspace 100% prefer a shit-talker who knows enough about my point to actually insult it directly over someone who politely and piously tells me my time isn't good enough for them to engage with.

[@Necrow_Productions]

The only thing I can think of is that Rags didn't say who he was and the guy just thought some random was breaking his flow. People can be weird.

[@jamesmcdonnell2455]

"Some big name"

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

I like how The Chamber Of Secrets had modern plumbing, despite it being a secret chamber that no one is supposed to know about.

[@TheFatalcrest]

XD we'll that depends on if the renovations are made magically or not..

[@Luciferkrist]

Snob has become synonymous with passionate people. At least within the sphere of the 'educated' pundits. Snob is supposed to be somebody that cares about the unimportant trappings of a subject/topic than the fundamentals. They are enamored with the superficial parts while being unable to identify the basic flaws that actually matter. Like Star Wars fans thinking the hyperspeed kamikaze was great because the visuals were beautiful, while dismissing the part where it makes space combat trivial now.

[@tool4132]

Chamberpot of Secretions

[@brendancoulter5761]

By wise cracks own definition, socialism is snobbery. Multiple times through out the video he stopped to say how art should be viewed from a socialist perspective. He was not talking about the quality of the art, he was simply making moral i9mplications that you should only enjoy art that promotes socialist ideas. This is no different then supporting art because it is considered high brow, its a social signal over genuine enjoyment.

[@TKDBoy1889]

A lot of people seem to put actual enjoyment of something at the bottom of qualifying factors, preferring either the social themes it presents or it is position as "high-art."

[@matthewcollins4773]

Wow. It happened. I have achieved the rank of Balls Above Wang... I mean, First..

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

Oh, dear. The mental image 😂😂😂.

[@devilonyourshoulder4732]

My headcanon about the Harry Potter poop thing is, that the is just an asteroid made entirely of frozen feces on collision course with Earth.

[@JTFIghter6969]

Wisecrack is legit one of my least favorite channels on KZbin. Talk about coasting off of the work of another dude, then riding the wave of super safe anti capitalist propaganda. While raking in and BROUGHT TO YOU BY BETTER HELP

[@predatorasap5040]

The entire poo dimension rant is why I watch efap , we definitely need a 3rd discussion

[@theliato3809]

A number three after a number two?

[@spinyhedgie]

Living in a supermarket for $10 grand fuck yes. Not only am I now paying for anything that needs to be used, Id offer to recover the aisles and reorganize the back room for them when the store is closed. Offer the best items to customers that ive even used myself. Fucking easy money.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

Poptimism is basically a response to hipsters. Basically, it's saying "Damn it, Katy Perry's California Girls song is probably the catchiest and most well-constructed song of the entire decade, and I want to label it as such instead of whatever garbage Lana Del Ray song the hipsters like." The problem is that it went way too far, to the point where it's now cool for that crowd to claim that Taylor Swift deserves even more recognition and KPOP bands are praised by the hipster crowd in the same way they praised Neutral Milk Hotel.

[@AimlessSavant]

Love how Jo in Honey is now embroiled in a legal battle for screwing their sponsor links.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Wisecracks just reeks of a lack of earnest. Imagine LoTR where Sam keeps cracking wise like a New York cab driver.

[@TheNoonish]

I’d love a version of Lord of the Rings where all the characters are stereotypical New York cab drivers. That would be hilarious. “Hey, Balrog! Get off the fuckin’ bridge! It’s a one lane bridge! Can you believe these assholes?”

[@samwallaceart288]

Don't insult cabbies like that

[@samwallaceart288]

​@@TheNoonishGandalf walked so hard he became a made man.

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@TheNoonish "aye, I'm walking 'ere!"

[@PickleLipsMiguel]

This guy's definition of what a "snob" is is wrong and ruins any argument he makes, as he has to change the meaning of words to justify his statements. "Snob" is not interchangeable with "critic" or "poser", even though a snob may also be those things sometimes. A snob is simply someone who thinks greater of himself for the views he holds, and look down on others. Whether their critique is correct or not is irrelevant; that they think highly of themselves for that view IS relevant.

[@barnbwt]

It's like people have forgotten dictionaries exist; "A vulgar person who affects to be better, richer, or more fashionable, than he really is; a vulgar upstart; one who apes his superiors. (Eng. Univ., Canf) A townsman. (Prov. Eng.) A journeyman shoemaker" Seems like poseur is the closest term in common use, made especially snobby by its French elitism, lol I do think "vulgarity" is a missing component in the conversation.

[@AlphariusandOmegon]

When wisecrack man tries to shits on wine expert as a snob, he is gatekeeping and criticizing in the exact way snobs do with whatever their chosen area of snobbery is, he just lacks the requisite level of expertise in regards to wine to do it in a snobbish way, but its the same impulse.

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

I missed you guys critiquing people Edit: uhhh I mean their content

[@dklwos8088]

That wine clip is from "How to With John Wilson" it's a fantastic show. He asks a simple question at the start of the episode and it usually ends up in a completely unrelated situation.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

The five-second thing is actually taught in film schools, as in, you're taught that audiences will watch to see a change in the visuals every five seconds.

[@Super_Ammo]

The term "consume content" is vile.

[@spectral_force5097]

Rags will appreciate the reference but the concept of surviving in a non-restocking supermarket building for as long as possible very much reminds me of Project Zomboid.

[@DigitalPsyche]

loving my EFAP Halloween hoodie

[@dylansepper]

Same. So comfy.

[@JamesFodor]

Mr Beast, the content creator who more than anyone else has designed their channel around maximising algorithm uptake, says that the algorithm is irrelevant and its all about what the audience wants? Okay, sure.

[@OpenClassActions]

Only 4 hours - filing an open class action now!

[@silverscorpio24]

Poop gets transferred to the #2 Dimension

[@isaackane4931]

In terms of algorithm, I think it's best case naive, worst case blatantly lying, to say it has nothing to do with a channels success. It's very obviously skewed to screw over some people more than others. To restrict certain types of content while promoting others, forcing people to either restrict themselves to any kind of attention or even take away their chances without them even knowing. KZbin banning certain words to say in the video, have in the description or title, or even type in comments. Nine times out of ten it being politically motivated. While also destroying itself to be ad/kid friendly. Or that it's been proven that they'll restrict a channel/video's reach because it says something they don't like. Obviously some people don't want/need to be the next Pewdiepie or Mr. Beast, but many can't even get off the ground. Or stay hidden despite it still being within your interests on the site. Or even have a decent audience/channel size already, but politics get even worse and KZbin suddenly decides to crack down on you because you covered a topic or just make an off-handed joke that makes a certain side look bad.

[@ingrowsmith5148]

Correct. Obviously the EFAP boys are too much in a rush to clown on Wisecrack to give this perspective more time to air. I would also like to call your attention to a very intersting phenomenon. KZbin seems to be implemeting IP/Device based shadowbans. The comments I make on my computer are freely visible even when logged-out, on my computer. However when I switch to a phone, or other device, every single comment is visible except mine. Now isn't that thoughtful of them? All I said was talent agencies must have signal-boosted creators here on KZbin, since they most probably have a different contract in place instead of the standard TOS the avarage person agrees to, and poof. The comment is hidden. Mustn't get those nasty ideas out there.

[@playmaker7910]

Its kind of funny how its gotten to the point where "I was just doing what I was told" or "I have to do this bad thing its just part of the culture" have been almost universally agree to be terrible and not an acceptable excuse that will just lead to worse things. However in any kind of Artist or creative field it is the most used defense by every and is completely defended by everyone.

[@ViolentMessiah666]

This shortness will not stand, man!

[@JoeSyxpack]

Jurassic Park doesn't have a crying French clown in it, so it's low art.

[@MAGAMAN]

Why do the people that make these kinds of videos all sound exactly the same?

[@charlesruteal9062]

"X Qua" -Matthew the Lesser Snob

[@toddstone230]

Im suprised with how much the crew adores the film, that there wasn't single reference to Ratatouille in regards to snobbery

[@cope847]

Good to see EFAP is embracing shorts now.

[@daytonsimpson9963]

There's no way that a Better Help ad interrupted me watching this podcast 🤣

[@CorpseBride-hz3bh]

The sad thing is that I already knew Collin came up with that bit from whose line 😂 as soon as rags said it I remember the prompted for the question

[@emuman09]

Not to sound mean but rags has slowly started to grate on me, constant interruptions often with jokes that aren't funny and the amount of times he isnt even paying attention....oh well whatever

[@TonyStark-tj6il]

@whitelight is a good dude who makes videos with a hopeful tone or a good sense of positivity, even while talking about fair criticism for the media he’s referring too

[@thefgcsensei4482]

the whole bit about "oh god and if you ask for a reccomendation..." is ridiculous since anyone of any level of pretentiousness will usualy ask the person demanding reccomendation about their own personal taste before going into a reccomendation to try and gage their interests/taste and give a proper reccomendation. those of us who worked service jobs will then ask the person's budget to suggest the best bang for their bucks according to their taste and perhaps if they hesitate between multiple choices you then go into the subtlety like what ingredients went into the production, where they were sources and where the product is produced.

[@Ann-vz8tz]

This is the topic I am still conflicted about and not sure I will form a firm opinion/stance anytime soon, and this is why it was interesting to listen to your discussion. I sometimes lean more into "let people enjoy things" camp because studying in art field, there was a very specific kind of "snobbery" and expected way of thinking (and similar to ideological critisism mentioned around 2h30), putting down anything more popular or lighter in tone that irritated me a lot. And I have complicated relationship with how media critisism is handled in general. I like how you usually do it in EFAP, fousing on plot and why it did/ didn't work. Again, still figuring it all out and I think it's ok to not to be 100% sure. Edit: I wrote this comment before finishing the video an this man at the end kills his own argument. When it's dismissing Jurassic Park, because it's blockbuster movie, it's snobism, but at the end he dismisses all media he deems "corporate product". And that it's bad because it "reinforces cultural norms", critisism from his personal ideological viewpoint.

[@JL-jy4zo]

YES MOVIE BOB PLEASE

[@TitusAndromadon]

24:40 highlights magazine, surely thats the best one

[@TheLevitatingFleem]

Brother if there’s a pharmacy in that supermarket you are *set.*

[@dmidkif]

1:48:20 Is this good rat?

[@KerikPaintsaPicture]

Let me make a single sentence for aim of art. "the aim of art is to tell a story, for art is a medium of storytelling" I guess I should really spread that to become a 10 minute video with dead philosophers.

[@Crimsin19937]

First few minutes are the origin stroy for Mr.Shart

[@barnbwt]

The term "content" was itself a product of snobbishness by streaming executives & media who to describe forgettable entertainment fit for the masses.

[@An_Actual_Rat]

Reminds me of a just a few years ago when "influencer" meant that you were just an advertising tool by companies through social media. It's still true, but it used to derogatory while people nowadays openly refers to themselves as such, or wish to be one.

[@abaddou1]

What is this, an EFAP for ants?

[@ThePenAndTheRose]

Listening to Fringy struggle to express just how great he thinks wall-e is is the only thing that brings me joy in life.

[@darkfoxxbunyip]

"The world would be better off without snobs" That is something a pleb would say.

[@EatWave]

Is the Poop Dimension the world of shit referenced in Full Metal Jacket?

[@therukshuka3616]

Talking to the people of the poop dimension: " y'know what you guys need? A poop dimension!"

[@HectorLopez0217]

I liked that one note actor in Red Notice

[@legomeaker101potato]

1:28:36 this reminds me of a restaurant I went to a few days ago, ai wantwd spghetti with my meat and the guy recomended a thicker version because it would absorb the sauce more... since I prefer having sauce seperately I appreciated his input but kept my original choice. being knowledgable doesn't mean being a snob (the guy didn't mock me for sticking to my tastes, just gave me a recommendation and the reasoning behind it)

[@Beard_Hood]

1:32:14 i'm sorry, i'm not a wine guy, i don't like it, but white and red taste nothing alike... how?!

[@johnsinth8261]

I remember watching the channel "whatculture" and steadily starting to hate it more and more

[@kbit08]

I want a Harry Potter story where the Poopians invade our dimension on a witch hunt.

[@ObviousRises]

People had seizures because of MrBeasts working conditions.

[@ObviousRises]

MrBeast isn't someone id be quoting these days

[@advert1489]

When people use 'perennial', I hear 'perianal'

[@Kub1na32]

How bad a video has to be that EFAP can't make even a 4 hour podcast about it?

[@bad-people6510]

But wouldn't the poop dimension be incredibly fertile for crops and stuff?

[@jajathegreat5707]

I'm on my first watch of this episode. so sad it will no longer be art whenever I watch it again D:

[@LordPhoton-rl4ot]

Wth not even 4 hour efap??? pffft this doesn't even quiet my addiction =/

[@AzraelDarkness64Gaming]

Underworld better then twilight in my opinion

[@rik5384]

Has there ever been an efap on I am Legend, or perhaps a video by one of the crew? I just watched it. Liked the first half, hated it after he had to kill Sam. Was wondering if there's a nice long critique on it somewhere.

[@constcarry]

It's KZbin pushing Shorts again?

[@Charlie-m6r5v]

Better Help can suck it. It's a huge scam.

[@Vimes1982]

Actually! Actually! The poop dimension thing wouldn't work as it would eventually derive the sending universe from all nutrients. Actually! Actually!

[@archstanton9073]

Only 4 hours? What happened to The Longman?

[@advert1489]

Holy crap, I just watched the first 10-mins of that show. You guys better mention how everyone that goes on reality TV is an absolute LOSER!

[@SacClass650]

If not tethered to teaching something about humanity, I do think the arts and humanities necessitates being of virtue. If the arts and humanities are metaphysical expressions, and morality is grounded by metaphysical truths, then the art must be a message of virtue to be considered art. Works that subvert virtue cannot be considered art. Very much a Platonic view of art. That's something I've been mulling over recently.

[@jn1833]

I'm glad to see Mauler and Fringy enjoyed the Beast Games somewhat. I was pleasently surprised by the creativity behind the games and the presentation. I dare to say it's pretty good as a reality show. They did a fine job overall and I'm glad to see youtubers break into the mainstream. My father got hooked on it too, so I think it has quite a wide appeal.

[@goliver9991]

algorithms are dead anyway, its back to word of mouth

[@mrburpler]

Babylon is a fine movie that pretentious people will love and rate as some "masterpiece".

[@LypticSpace]

Only 4h??? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺