I would do this every 2 years. You'd have World Cup one year, North Vs South the next year, Lions Tour next year, North Vs South the year after that and then the next year back to the world cup. JOB DONE
@jbask7124Ай бұрын
Just replace the lions with a North vs South. Alternate location every 4 years
@TelJ-x2wАй бұрын
@jbask7124 nice idea mate... but I think I'll stick with mine, sorry. I love the Lions series.
@georggreyling6879Ай бұрын
Yes. I would not take away the Lions tour. It's a very special and iconic thing rugby has. I agree, do it every 2 years. I also would do it maybe at the end of the season of that year.
@MeanAzz_13Ай бұрын
Too saturated! Less is best! Makes us want it more! Every 4 years between W.Cs.
@colmhackett3266Ай бұрын
Manna from the gods!!
@TheBliksempieАй бұрын
Barbarians North vs Barbarians South..... I would love to see it in a 3 or 5 test match series rotating venues.
@Waywind420Ай бұрын
5 is probably too taxing and difficult to arrange given all the players are on various schedules. 3 is possible but even so that's going to require 5-8 weeks of player availability.
@DanC-r2wАй бұрын
Northern Lions Vs. Southern Kings!
@JJ-li3lkАй бұрын
@@Waywind420 5 weeks. If it booms it will be prioritized. Players would earn enough playing more international rugby to not play as much other competitions and clubs will pay less for player contracts because they won't be interested in contracting big deal signings to play 5 games a season.
@Wolf-hh4rvАй бұрын
Not Barbarians… Barbarians is a thrown together team with an expectation that you will play ball in hand rugby regardless
@sarstally8286Ай бұрын
@@DanC-r2wI'd do it the other way around. Northern Kings & Southern Lions. Since lions are technically from the southern hemisphere & there are kings in the north.
@barrygormleyАй бұрын
Saddest thing about this video is we probably won't ever get to see this game. It makes so much sense. North one year, south the next. It'd be unreal.
@EoinORiordanАй бұрын
or even let the money men have there day in the sun - literally - and play in middle east
@islamisthetruewaytogod681224 күн бұрын
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way) don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. First of all, if you have any questions regarding Islam and yourself, just open the Quran randomly, and you will find the answer in front of you, like a miracle and a sign from God. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) ---------------------
@rodrigofreitas111Ай бұрын
Seriously man! Now I'm hyped up for a game that isn't even happening ahah
@FirstbornWallus-fk5nqАй бұрын
Same 😂
@sarstally8286Ай бұрын
Me too🤦🏻♀️. I'd pay good money to watch that game.
@markthompson7817Ай бұрын
Me too.
@islamisthetruewaytogod681224 күн бұрын
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way) don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. First of all, if you have any questions regarding Islam and yourself, just open the Quran randomly, and you will find the answer in front of you, like a miracle and a sign from God. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.” (2:136 / Translated by Community) Salam (Peace) ---------------------
@WORS06Ай бұрын
we've been asking for this, it would be huge. especially after the autumn nations where we saw how the southern hemisphere fans supported the other SH teams against the NH teams, so it would create a even bigger rivalry between the north and south
@matheusalves5160Ай бұрын
And will give an incentive to the low tier nations in both hemispheres to perform better at world level, so they'll be capped.
@JJ-li3lkАй бұрын
It's got potential to rival world cup viewership 🤑 * Endorsement deals galore. Players will start earning more because of it. Win/win And will assist with globalization
@tedy9251Ай бұрын
This whole north/south rivalry seems mostly to happen in southern nations heads. The perspective of all-star teams from different countries clashing is definitely cool but this rivalry is clearly not strong enough in ppl's head other than southerners to base a championship on.
@GeorgeJoubert-vr5ilАй бұрын
As long as World Rugby does not choose the teams!
@sakabula2357Ай бұрын
Or the coaches...
@MorgMorg-uf6psАй бұрын
Tim already picked the SH team...🙏 NH next
@johnnyeveritt5695Ай бұрын
Ha Ha .... Good point ! Watta bunch of total arbs in ALL respects; especially as this lot continue to ruin the game we enjoy and love ... ! 😡💩🪰🖕
@gilliandawson6567Ай бұрын
@@sakabula2357my thought was Not Rassie, otherwise "hulle Sal weet wat ons weet" & I don't want to share.
@sakabula2357Ай бұрын
@gilliandawson6567 hope Nienies knows what he can and not tell them...I get what you are saying..hulle moet nooit weet wat ons weet nie
@JohannesMahlangu-y2fАй бұрын
I'm From South Africa I love Watching your Show Keep It Up. 🇿🇦🇿🇦
@Mary-AnnNorvalАй бұрын
Me too...I never miss an "episode"
@tessawhitfield2018Ай бұрын
Thank you Tim - been watching since you were in your camper van in France 2023 - and you have kept my interest in rugby going with your enthusiasm and fair-handed assessment of the current state of the game. It also doesn't hurt that you see how good our current crop of Springboks are at the moment (and honestly, we in SA know how quickly that can slip away).
@andreleohoffmannАй бұрын
excellent idea - but can we have Jérôme Daret as coach for the North?
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
Haha. Love it
@pauljansen6650Ай бұрын
Who??
@SMacCuUladhАй бұрын
good one!
@victordastile5204Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Wolf-hh4rvАй бұрын
😂🤣
@ARCPrecisionSolutionsАй бұрын
We ask for a yearly 2024 video highlight episode please pretty please. Highlight of 2024 from your viewpoint
@pauljansen6650Ай бұрын
Would be great I have a feeling the Southern Hemisphere teams would gel better together as they can mix styles well
@jds6137Ай бұрын
This makes so much more sense than a half arsed world cup copy!
@davidprentice8108Ай бұрын
You've got my vote for this, Tim. It would be epic!
@EdgycooАй бұрын
I, being an bas fan southerner would absolutely love this.
@johannblignaut1966Ай бұрын
Great idea.Referee to be no.1 ranked at the time.Depending on the season traditional rugby venues fine.Just nothing in to played in the Middle East.
@matthewdewet2242Ай бұрын
I honestly some time think the coaches watch your videos and then pick their team! I'm pretty sure this will happen now that you have suggested it. Thanks for such awesome videos
@raymondsloaneАй бұрын
There was a game like this before played on 5 March 2005 in Twickenham. The South won 54 - 19. I will never forget how George Gregan and John Smith celebrated together at a time when they were both captains of their resepective nations. It is a great childhood memory.
@charl3782Ай бұрын
I didn't know, very cool! Clearly there is precedent, so hopefully it can happen again 🙏
@Wolf-hh4rvАй бұрын
The downside is the dilution of international rugby. Test rugby then gets relegated to “ Tier 2 “
@clydebear6914Ай бұрын
And there was also the Scotland/Ireland v Wales/England games going back a while. I think the last was 1980 for the Welsh ruby union centenary which was a fantastic game of open running rugby, with the great Andy Irvine's try the highlight. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nabQdp2Pq7Vmd8U
@dandreehlers9817Ай бұрын
Smit* Smith was the 7 not the captain
@raymondsloaneАй бұрын
@@dandreehlers9817 yes yes. Juan Smith vs John Smit. You know what I meant. Jeez.
@dominicbrittАй бұрын
A North versus South fixture or series has been under discussion since the 1990s - can you guess which union has been blocking it? That’s right - HQ…
@buffaloblack3993Ай бұрын
😅😂😂😂 the thought alone must be completely demoralizing for them 😅
@WyndhamPGPАй бұрын
It would be epic.
@RalphdArcАй бұрын
It would be INCROYABLE !! Mon Dieu , that would be some game and what a brilliant idea to make the game even more popular . Merci Tim , can't wait for this one ......oh wait ....... it's just an idea . Come on the North !!
@hankscorpion9939Ай бұрын
I'm liking the Irish representation in that team, and the thought of them playing with legends like Dupont would be amazing. This would be epic. Fans from all over the world in one stadium. The atmosphere would be insane.
@markthompson7817Ай бұрын
In a state of origin type format, e.g. hemisphere of origin not all the Irish picked would be eligible to play for the north.
@hankscorpion9939Ай бұрын
@@markthompson7817 True. and a few of the French team too
@christopherburke2082Ай бұрын
The North would only have half their best players available😂😂@@markthompson7817
@vincentl8057Ай бұрын
@@hankscorpion9939Meafou would be eligible for the south via New Zealand (place of birth) or Australia (place where he learned rugby). But what about Mauvaka? Technically born in the south but 100% french born and raised with no other nationality. Would he be eligible to play for the south under the french banner?
@giddygiddy85Ай бұрын
@@markthompson7817 Some people have played for both NSW and QLD, there's no rule on actual State of origin, Also the rule would be what hemisphere did you play your first international game for.
@admy1133Ай бұрын
Southern team 1. Nche 2. Taylor 3. Malerhbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Barret 6. Du toit 7. Savea 8. Valentini 9. Roigaard 10. Pollard 11. Clarke 12. De Allende 13. Chocobares 14. Colbe 15. Jordan 16. Marx 17. Bell 18. Lomax 19. Snyman 20. Satiti 21. Williams 22. B. Barret 23. Kriel
@johnlamb3101Ай бұрын
Def not Barrett at 5 - please! Yellow card Barrett! It has to be Mostert!
@Castlebandit1983Ай бұрын
Make it a series - every 4 years in between World Cups! N vs S!
@benjaminmagotableАй бұрын
I would travel the other half of the world to see this.
@timbenke5676Ай бұрын
I love this Tim... your perspectives, views, insights are fabulous... the rugby world is your oyster, and your oyster is our pearl... thank you for your wonderful, intelligent energy within a sport that deserves nothing less
@Jigz_27Ай бұрын
The Man, The Myth, The Legend, The Tim does it again. I'm giving this idea the old chefs kiss. 👌
@SMacCuUladhАй бұрын
I'm hoping calling him 'The Tim' catches on!
@theblackcat197812 күн бұрын
You were a brave man coming to Edinburgh after that video, Cocker! 🤣 Dempsey, Russell, Tuipolotu, Jones, VdM and Graham had very good shouts (not that you were necessarily wrong, but they were underrepresented).
@johnlouiswessels6083Ай бұрын
Like your way of thinking out of the box a'la Rassie style.
@robertfridjhon550Ай бұрын
I've been wanting to see this match for ages!! Great selections!!!
@Kiwi_HaydnАй бұрын
Great idea, would get a bit boring with the South spanking the North every year though 😂
@christopherburke2082Ай бұрын
Woah, I think we'd be pretty evenly matched. (Saying this from the south.) For me the biggest differences would be Ox tipping the balance of scrums with Etzebeth, PSDT and Ardie making the difference for the rest of the pack so the south would have an edge there. Then I think Du Point and Ntamack plus Keenan would give the North a slight edge in terms of game management (even though Pollard would be crucial in balancing this out to an extent). Would be such an awesome game though.
@morapelimokokomali7907Ай бұрын
@christopherburke2082 Not sure it would be close at the moment, maybe several years from now, assuming Ireland and France continue getting stronger. It's hard to imagine the All Blacks, Springboks, Argentina, Fiji and Argentina losing to a combined NH team. Just picture Roigard and Mou'nga running a backline with Kolbe and a few Fijian backs on a foundation laid by a forward pack with PSDT, Ardie, Eben, Lomax and Matera in it.
@axxeyАй бұрын
@@morapelimokokomali7907 A whole bunch of this years Rugby championship i looked at the pumas backline making so much out of rubbish and backfoot ball and thought wow, imagine if that backline was behind a springbok pack.
@Anotherperson-m5bАй бұрын
Actually, the North look a better team combined than they do individually
@morapelimokokomali7907Ай бұрын
@Anotherperson-m5b Yes both sides have two very strong 15s. It's just that it looks like the South have an edge at the moment, only for now.
@willemgouws7834Ай бұрын
I totally agree Brilliant idea and two very good teams you chose
@Nic_BorkumАй бұрын
As a south africna, this game would be amazing and I am both very proud and very pleased with the amount of green and gold in the team, as well as who the coach for the south is. Well done Tim, another great video.
@nicolasmaligner8753Ай бұрын
I am more into a Latin (Fr, It, Arg, Prtgl) vs Anglophones test. It wouldn't be as unbalanced as it may seem.
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
That would be very cool too!
@GeorgeJoubert-vr5ilАй бұрын
Tim, Great idea!
@garysmall4544Ай бұрын
Fabulous idea. Raewyn, Australia
@francoisjacobs3215Ай бұрын
5 or 6 player cap from each country for North and South. Then make Rassie and Scott to coach the South and Andy and Borthwick for the North. What a showdown it would be
@josephmcgrath3952Ай бұрын
Not Borthwick, not ever!
@francoisjacobs3215Ай бұрын
@josephmcgrath3952 true but he might just learn from Andy...
@subbie5498Ай бұрын
why not galthie
@francoisjacobs3215Ай бұрын
@subbie5498 I think he is a brilliant coach and has definitely made huge strides with the French team. As a solo coach sure but I don't see him being able to work with another coach. Him being such a perfectionists, he most likely will clash head's with another coach. Just my opinion.
@SAnd-pd1ouАй бұрын
Because its Andy Farrell@@subbie5498
@sarelvangreunen7971Ай бұрын
Loving your dig on coach of the year!
@Kid_SenekalАй бұрын
Get this fixture at Johannesburg FNB stadium and we'll pack 94,237 fans in there.
@edconway8599Ай бұрын
No one wants to go to Johannesburg
@clydebear6914Ай бұрын
If you can promise none of that awful DJ "music" every two minutes...you have a deal. 😉
@Kid_SenekalАй бұрын
@@clydebear6914 Let him cook 😜😂🍻
@mv4770Ай бұрын
@clydebear6914 you wanna hear Swing Low every 2minutes? Or Allez le Blues every 2 minutes?
@ds-cx5yoАй бұрын
@@mv4770Y E S 🗿
@dietersmit6639Ай бұрын
This is a great idea. Choose the 2 coaches and assistant coaches first and leave it to them to choose the teams. But yes, you have just put together two mindblowing teams!
@EoinORiordanАй бұрын
As an irish fan, I'd have to say the scottish 10-15 have all put there hands up - Huw Jones is just Class
@Stephen.FoskettАй бұрын
As a Scot it was baffling how none of the backs bar Russell even got a mention, let alone a spot on the bench!
@GoggawieАй бұрын
We've been asking for this. Thank you Tim
@nandopotgieter8058Ай бұрын
Love the idea Tim. But World Rugby need to keep their noses out of it. Give rugby back to the fans and the players.
@Wolf-hh4rvАй бұрын
World Rugby are ruining the game. Must play rugby league because allegedly (emphasis) we all bored to tears because it took 2 minutes to set the scrum rather than 40 seconds
@MarcWitherseaАй бұрын
That would be so awesome! And yes, often fantasised about it :)
@BenBen-bi5vnАй бұрын
Would love to see this. Personally, I think the Southern team is superior.
@mhorlorАй бұрын
Tim, build it and they will come!!!!
@fabiostefanutto5307Ай бұрын
Good call Tim. Maybe you don't know this, but during the apartheid era when SA couldn't play international rugby, every year there was a North v South game between the local provinces. Believe it was Transvaal, N.Transvaal, Orange free state v western province, natal and eastern province. It was widely watched and anticipated so the concept works. A international version would be that 1000x.
@axxeyАй бұрын
NZ allblacks selection used to always follow on from a north island vs south island game.
@lnlhilesАй бұрын
As a rugby fan for almost 70 years, this is something I have often dreamt about! My selection of the Southern Hemisphere was quite straightforward as I am a South African and assumed that seven players from each of Australia,New Zealand & South Africa would make up the south side ( it depended on the number of subs allowed, which seemed to change quite often). But, of course, we do now have to consider the likes of Argentina, Fiji, Tonga & Samoa as well! Thanks Tim for putting it out there and let,s see it happen before I shed this mortal coil! (I am 75 years old presently)
@randomlyfactual1943Ай бұрын
So this did actually happen, a couple of times. It is called Rugby Aid and has its own Wikipedia page. So the first match happened in 2005 (I think it was played at Twickenham) as a fundraiser for the victims of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami and featured a North vs South matchup, which was won by the South by 54-19. Some big stars were in there for the South, like Schalk Burger, John Smit, George Gregan, Phil Waugh, Tana Umaga, Chris Latham, Andrew Mehrtens etc. The North... Fielded a much less star studded team, with Lawrence Dallaglio being the only name that casual fans will probably remember. So the match drew 40,000 attendees, which is not that great. This, along with the fact that the North didn't want to risk their big stars made this a difficult fixture that was going to struggle in terms of feasibility. The second one was in 2011 and I believe it was for the benefit of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami and the resulting Fukushima disaster. Again, the South won, by a score of 36-22. This time though, the lineups were far less star studded, with the biggest names being some retirees like Joe Roff ans Justin Marshall. This match didn't even draw 30k at Twickenham and as far as I'm aware, that was the last time anything of the sort was attempted. The difficulty (and unwillingness) to release club stars for this fixture was always going to be make it challenging, but the lack of fan support was really disappointint. 40,000 fans in Twickenham for a star studded team is not a great return. For that reason, I see the same type of issues plague a potential third match. France/Toulouse would for instance probably not release Dupont, Ramos and Jalibert, while Leinster, the Sharks and the Stormers will probably not want to release RG Snyman, Eben Etzebeth and Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu. Its a fun thought experiment, but unfortunately the reality is a nightmare.
@ritchiebirnie6124Ай бұрын
This would be brilliant
@JohnNash-n9tАй бұрын
Play this game every 18 months and alternate between playing in the north and south. The put it on a pay per view basis of a £10 per house and £100 for a pub. Not via sky etc but direct with world rugby if you want a money spinner
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
Ahhh...18 months, Ashes style. Like that
@jonathanadams6763Ай бұрын
Thank you Tim for great channel. I really like to see a SA vs Barbarians game. I think it could be a sell out.
@harrydennis6854Ай бұрын
Amazing idea. Have fantasized about it before. Kind of like the all star game in the NBA. Also, can't believe you didn't even consider Tuipulotu, Jones or Kinghorn, Tim! I'd have either Ramos or Kinghorn in ahead of Keenan as both can goal kick and cover multiple positions
@TomM1173Ай бұрын
Tim, you have my vote, both for the game as well as for „Rugby President“!!! 👍😅😅😅
@wilhelmin8er1Ай бұрын
3 game series 1 in main stadium of rugby championship winners 1 in main stadium of rugby championship winners 1 in rugby developing nation alternating north/south each time (eg Georgia one year then Uruguay the next) If it’s just one game, then it must always be played in a rugby developing nation
@AfricanTournetToursАй бұрын
💯
@tournettravelАй бұрын
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@ColinGrealyАй бұрын
If the idea is to make money from this, then it should be in the biggest stadium with the biggest rugby crowd, which, realistically, is probably Twickenham or Ellis Park. It’s a nice idea to have it in a tier 2 country, but kinda defeats the purpose.
@sarstally8286Ай бұрын
@@ColinGrealyFNB stadium is the biggest in the world. Capacity of almost 95000. Twickenham capacity is 80000. Ellis Park is only 62500. Far less than the other two.
@ColinGrealyАй бұрын
@ I was thinking specifically rugby stadia (FNB is football?) but either way it needs to be a big stadium in a tier 1 country.
@waynewilson112Ай бұрын
Love this idea Tim. Let’s make it happen! Personally I think it should be in the alternative years between the world cups and Lions tours and after the end of the year tour. So as follows: world cup year, followed by North V South year, followed by the Lions tours year, followed by North V South year followed by the World Cup year … and repeat. Games played in alternative hemispheres every 2 years. Bring it on ! 💪🏻
@geoffnelson6756Ай бұрын
The Autumn Internationals are currently sitting at 11- 10 in favour of the NH, with only Ireland v Australia left to play, Australia have a chance to draw the series in Dublin, but more likely it will be a 12-10 victory to the NH.
@pauljansen6650Ай бұрын
That's very different to what Tim is talking about son
@timbaker4253Ай бұрын
North lost all the big matches except for France over NZ. And they’re all home games. How does the north do when they tour SA/NZ?
@sportsdictionary590Ай бұрын
July series was very much south dominated. I think 12-10 away from home is amazing for the south
@geoffnelson6756Ай бұрын
@pauljansen6650 Sorry dad, didn't realise there were rules in the comments section, although NH v SH results are relevant to the topic.
@geoffnelson6756Ай бұрын
@@sportsdictionary590 In the July tests the games that were SH v NH the NH won 9 - 7
@markthompson7817Ай бұрын
A great idea Tim and your picks are reasoned and pretty spot on. First things first, eligibility. If you were to base it on state of origin, then it would be best to base it on hemisphere of origin. That would mean a few of your picks Tim would be ineligible to play for the north. It takes the big money contracts out of the equation.
@vincentl8057Ай бұрын
in Tim's selection, out of the french players, only meafou isn't french-born and then would be selected in the south team via New Zealand (place of birth) or Australia (place where he learned rugby). But what about Mauvaka. He is 100% french (born and raised) with no other nationality. Would he be selected for the south under the french banner?
@ToefingasАй бұрын
Joshua Tuisova has to be in there so we'll make an exception and call it a 24 man squad. 👍
@notthisprickagain8499Ай бұрын
Yeah and what happened to Botia? He almost single handedly won La Rochelle a European Cup last year..
@danielvanzyl-smit6161Ай бұрын
I would love to see David Niniashvili in the Northern team. Absolute beast for Georgia. He definitely deserves a spot.
@PJR89Ай бұрын
You can also have a "rest of the world 15" vs "the world cup champs" every 4 years, the year after a world cup.
@CamcolitoАй бұрын
World Champs can't even beat Ireland what hope do they have against Ireland and the pick of the rest of the world.
@stanedgie5910Ай бұрын
@@Camcolito yet Ireland lost to the team the World Champs beat twice this year. so much for your Ireland team, cant even beat the no 3 side at their own home stadium, shame.
@CamcolitoАй бұрын
@@stanedgie5910 And we have a bite! 😂
@stanedgie5910Ай бұрын
@@Camcolito because your too ignorant to ignore a good bit of roasting. And your iq about rugby is your shoe size, there is that too.
@Athorner.53Ай бұрын
the main problem with that is the world cup team would probably lose every time. e.g SA's wc run they only won by a point in the last 3 games, one of them being against a 14 man nz team. So i would say even just out of france, england and nz you can make a team that could beat sa. And if sa don't win the wc then it becomes even easier to beat the wc winning team
@ragekit1482Ай бұрын
Ur channel is a masterclass
@louisnel1922Ай бұрын
Tim Coetzee strikes again
@corinnegourley7125Ай бұрын
Tim Ndlovu
@treytoomuchАй бұрын
This would be incredible and I’ve often tho don’t why it doesn’t happen! 3 tests every 2/3 years would be phenomenal!
@MSS-g7fАй бұрын
As if Private Equity will do anything other than suck the vibrancy, uniqueness and what makes it special. Private Equity is at total variance with our sport. Just because the Brits are broke, they would sell the rest of us out to PE - Do you know what happens if they don't make 8-15% PA? They will disassemble and liquidate it without remorse. My nightmare is the crass destructive influence of rampant commercialization that kills it's spontaneity and then stutters financially. It's bad news, and will destroy our game.
@MikeGale-y1qАй бұрын
This is such a good pitch! I love the Lions, but you may be right, it does feel like it may have had its day, or perhaps it needs to be planned differently… the Northern v Southern hemisphere carries a similar high adrenaline factor that would definitely draw a helluvan audience - especially if we could do it twice in the year? One venue in each hemisphere!!!!
@neilshrekpurves4521Ай бұрын
To make it advantageous to world rugby, it would need to be more inclusive, perhaps a quota system of players from tier 2 nations, or a tier 2 nation competition that plays simultaneously, and the aggregate scores rule
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
I thought about that, but thought it would diminish the achievement of being selected.
@markthompson7817Ай бұрын
Like the idea of a tier two nation curtain raiser, as long as tier two players can still be selected for the top squad.
@christianehlers9650Ай бұрын
Love watching your show.greetings from the bomb squate south africa 😂
@pascalzugmeyer2921Ай бұрын
Good idea! Couple of notes: Willys not playing for a "not so great" England team is not missing on being not at top competition when he plays for Toulouse and wins the French Top 14 and Euro Cup. Second, Thomas Ramos is I think the best kicker Worldwide right now plus his bond with DuPont and N'Tamac is amazing to watch. I am from Toulouse obviously. 😜
@HarryNyeАй бұрын
"Jessie Kriel, muscle tone of a chimp" should be up there with your other sayings like "Nick Kennedy, Mom's an author", "Jack Willis, sister's a midwife" 😆
@buffaloblack3993Ай бұрын
😅😂😂😂😂
@jeremielambin8690Ай бұрын
What a great idea Tim.
@matthewdewet2242Ай бұрын
How has this not happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
100%
@Hard_ThinkerАй бұрын
Awesome concept and would love to see these two teams play against each other
@ernstwoest1538Ай бұрын
We did it in 2005 in aid of the Tsunami victims. Southern team smashed the Northern one
@thenomad47Ай бұрын
We'll do it again, but this time in aid of all the South Africans still struggling from heart problems from the 2023 World Cup 😂😂😂
@ciaranbrkАй бұрын
Yeah nearly 20 years ago. The rugby landscape has changed since Australia South Africa and New Zealand were at the top now it’s a top five and all of them are capable of beating each other.
@SMacCuUladhАй бұрын
@@thenomad47 Or we could just do it in aid of all the South Africans struggling from living in South Africa.
@thenomad47Ай бұрын
@@SMacCuUladh On second thought, it would seem like spending it on therapists for thr Irish who are still salty about their usual predictable Quarter Final exit would be better. We can cover our own Medical costs, seems like you guys can't however
@stanedgie5910Ай бұрын
@@thenomad47 or give 69c to @Camcolito for his coping medication.
@naudts13Ай бұрын
Love the idea of beating the North!
@josephmcgrath3952Ай бұрын
Love the idea of beating the South
@timbaker4253Ай бұрын
@@josephmcgrath3952Just SA and NZ combined would thrash the North
@lizzyhanahoe4197Ай бұрын
Enjoy your idea.
@James-o2u9xАй бұрын
What about left handers vs right handers..
@MrMargo48Ай бұрын
Glaring omissions for me are 12. Tuipulotu 13. Huw Jones. For me, they're stronger than Irish centres. And then I'd just link them with Finn. (And I'm English, not Scottish 😂)
@paolozmmАй бұрын
No way we can sacrifice the Lions for this. It’s too historic and amazing to call off.
@Jordan-mq4wjАй бұрын
Nah screw the lions tour
@MariusleGrange-m3fАй бұрын
This would be terrific to see. It would be an absolutely massive spectacle. I have heard in the past that this sort of thing is not possible due to contractual agreements players have with unions, but rugby needs this. It would be massive. 3 matches every two years, North versus South.
@FCGibbo4Ай бұрын
How are Russell and DVM not even picked.
@CamcolitoАй бұрын
Duhan great for highlight reels against average teams. Much like Russell actually.
@NutmanjangoАй бұрын
What quality content you are creating sir!
@thenomad47Ай бұрын
Man, Tim, you've just gone and done it again. I'd LOVE to see this game happen. It would be absolutely LEGENDARY. Obviously as a Saffa my money's on the Southern Hemisphere team honestly. I'm a bit surprised by your Uruguayan choice, however, I've seen enough of you to know you have a trustworthy judgement, especially since I haven't watched a Uruguayan game this year. I'm absolutely betting on the Mad Genius Rassie Erasmus and the Southern Hemisphere Traditional power and skill to win the game, especially with all the fine choices you've made for the Southern Hemisphere team. The Northern Hemisphere team would put on one hell of a show and challenge no doubt, however, The Southern Hemisphere By One point is what I'm betting, just so that the rest of the South can learn what it's like to be a Saffa 😂😂😂
@EggchasersRugbyАй бұрын
Thank you Santi Arata plays in the French league and is AMAZING. And right up with the best. That league has so many incredible scrum halves in - Dupont, Reinach, Le Garrec, Serin, Lucu etc - and Arata stands out.
@RaeesRaheman-g8nАй бұрын
i agree 100% This idea is phenomenal
@JKMeZmAАй бұрын
My North v South 23 man teams: North: 1. Cyrille Baille 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Zander Fagerson 4. Maro Itoje 5. Thibaud Flament 6. Jack Dempsey 7. Josh Van der Flier 8. Gregory Aldritt 9. Antoine Dupont (C) 10. Finn Russell 11. Duhan Van der Merwe 12. Sione Tuipulotu 13. Gary Ringrose 14. Damien Penaud 15. Blair Kinghorn 16. Peato Mauvaka 17. Andrew Porter 18. Uni Antonio 19. Joe Macarthy 20. Sam Underhill 21. Jamieson Gibson Park 22. Romain Ntmack 23. Tomaso Menoncello South: 1. Ox Nche 2. Bongi Mbonambi 3. Frans Malherbe 4. Eben Etzebeth 5. RG Snyman 6. Siya Kolisi(C) 7. Pieter Steph Du Toit 8. Ardie Savea 9. Cam Roigard 10. Richie Mo’ounga 11. Cheslin Kolbe 12. Damien De Allende 13. Jessie Kriel 14. Mark Telea 15. Will Jordan 16. Julian Montoya 17. Vincent Koch 18. Tyrell Lomax 19. Scott Barrett 20. Wallace Sititi 21. Faf de Klerk 22. Handre Pollard 23. Beauden Barrett
@grantswartz777Ай бұрын
Andrew Porter is a loose head prop. Dan Sheehan will work though.
@hervemurgale8098Ай бұрын
No way you choose Itoje over Meafu...
@VuminkhosiMkhonta-l2sАй бұрын
Nah this list needs some Australians and more argentians and Australians and why does Ben Earl get so disrespected
@CamcolitoАй бұрын
No hooker, Doris not even on the bench hilarious could easily have been WPOY, Porter so good he's both playing and on the bench. Too many Scots, Duhan a liability.
@Wolf-hh4rvАй бұрын
Kolbe is typically 14 , Kurt-Lee Arendse best 11 by miles
@darthmaul408Ай бұрын
Great analogy comparing this idea to State of Origin Tim. I’ve started to watch Rugby League just because I saw some highlights of this years State of Origin series. The intensity of the games and the fact that the teams are a mixture of players from the various NRL teams makes it special along with the eligibility rules. Rugby Union needs to find money spinning ideas and North vs South is about as good as it gets. The one thing I would say, again linking this idea back to origin, the teams need to have an ideal split of nations in the team, even if it arguably weakens them. For example a fairly even distribution of SA, NZ, Aus and Arg in the Southern hemisphere team. That way it doesn’t just represent the strongest nation at that time, which is obviously South Africa at the moment. That should be the case with the Northern hemisphere team as well. You could easily switch out one of Aki or Ringrose for Tuipolotu or Jones and EFW for Lowe, just to bring some balance.
@Rooikat76Ай бұрын
Yes, yes and yes, make it happen already!
@RavenWolf-tt4jzАй бұрын
I agree fully!!! Make it the same four cycle as the B&I Lions and replace them. Three games series plus two games against developing nations using the "second stringers". Hemispheres alternate. Your current teams are spot-on, I have the South for a win by 10.
@jacquesdekock6751Ай бұрын
What about a N vs S tournament. Have a mens 15 game, a womens 15 game and a 7's mens and womens game all on one day. That would break all viewing records!
@glenwebster8545Ай бұрын
Fantastic idea Tim......I want to see this happen
@superbok4517Ай бұрын
Team of south 1. Ox 2. Marx 3. Lomax 4. Eben 5. Skelton 6. Sititi 7. Du toit 8. Savea 9. Williams 10. Pollard 11. Talea 12. Dallende 13. Saaulii 14. Kolbe 15. Wright 16. Taylor 17. De groot 18. Malherbe 19. Snyman 20. Kolisi 21. Riogard 22. Barret 23. Kriel
@SuperEdge67Ай бұрын
Argentina is in the Southern Hemisphere. Not a single Argie?
@superbok4517Ай бұрын
@SuperEdge67 argentina Fullback is amazing ,what his name
@tomallen9377Ай бұрын
Love this video. Would be great to see
@vinceroosАй бұрын
Don't hold your breath. WR don't know what they're doing.
@JeffreyThomas-th2psАй бұрын
Awsome idea great money spinner
@Wayne_KimVАй бұрын
5 year cycle. Year 1 = World cup Year 2 = B&I lions tour + summer tour. (Invitational tours) Year 3 = Rugby Championship & 6 Nations. Year 4 = Hemosphere Cup (North v South). Year 5 Nations Cup. 1 tournament every 5 years, yet full time rugby.
@romainviry3185Ай бұрын
9/10 pairing for the North is incredible, best chuckle brothers in word rugby imo
@grahamleigh8398Ай бұрын
But Russie has to be the coach. ???
@matthewdewet2242Ай бұрын
😂 love this!
@M0RR1S10Ай бұрын
This would be the pinnacle of rugby!
@Calan-cm8sgАй бұрын
I think Finn Russell needs to get more credit as the best fly half in the world
@ConorOLeary-rl4bsАй бұрын
😂
@Calan-cm8sgАй бұрын
@ did I say something funny
@ConorOLeary-rl4bsАй бұрын
@@Calan-cm8sg sorry thought you were joking
@Calan-cm8sgАй бұрын
@@ConorOLeary-rl4bs not a joke best fly half in the world
@joashberu3008Ай бұрын
@Calan-cm8sg ill admit he's good. Better than pollard though? I don't think so. He's one of the better play makers out there but we'll never see him winning a world cup or six nations. Let alone a SH vs NH. Has he even won a lions tour? It's a hard metric to judge on since it's a team sport but he still hasn't been able to make an individual difference on the field, that can win his team the big accolades. (By comparison SA doesn't win the world cup QF and SF without pollard making that individual difference)
@alistairmarks9552Ай бұрын
Awesome eggchaser you are agreat commentator keep up the goodnews😊
@boerierollАй бұрын
Tim, the North would be embarrassed completely dominanted
@lizzyhanahoe4197Ай бұрын
Dream on 🤣
@Athorner.53Ай бұрын
me when I lie
@edconway8599Ай бұрын
New Zealand lost to France this year South Africa and Argentina lost to Ireland Australia lost to Scotland They’re not invincible by any means
@kropotkine9640Ай бұрын
@@edconway8599 Argentina lost to France too
@kevinsummerley5399Ай бұрын
Amazing idea. But it would have to be a 3 game series and a group of 30 players each and played alternatively N and S. Box office !!
@denzilabrahams8373Ай бұрын
We use to have this South Africa in the apartheid years and it was great the northern provinces vs the south we'll SARU had to improvise those years cause we didn't play any international rugby
@the_katman2181Ай бұрын
Great South team. I'd have Angus Bell backing up the Ox though. He's been phenomenal this year.