Egnater Renegade - Brown Sound Demo ((Stereo))

[@blooddudemagic]

FINALLY!!!!!!!! someone who plays the songs on his own. no back tracks, no playing along with the music. Dude you rock!!! sounds great!!

[@justinwood3278]

One of my favorite tones from the 80s

[@StevenSchmitt]

That was great!!!! I think this is the best sounding Egnater demo I've heard on the net so far. I need to see if I can get my Tourmaster to sound this good. Great job.

[@andythrash.]

Holy mother of tone! That's sooo close to the sound Im lookin for! The quest for tone never ends haha

[@Tonycaveman]

That sounds spot on. I want to thank you for your care when capturing the sound in these videos. I love your "tonal identity", if you will excuse the expression. It's sort a modern, hi gain british crunch. Love it! Rock on.

[@woodrn]

Awesome tone man!!!! I just bought the Renegade head and I can't wait to play it. I have a gig this weekend and I hope to get it to use then. Again.... awesome tone! Rock on!!

[@edwardprete]

crap playing? are you kidding. man, this is so good. Real nice job and this amp really has good tone.

[@81giorikas]

Killer sound. I think It matches the tokai better than the other demos. Plus v30/classic lead 80 can't go wrong...

[@trevinor3]

badass tone ive heard yet dude, sounds fab!

[@hawg427]

Okay, thanks. I will try and listen to more utube demo's. Your vids are very high quality with the audio. My nearest GC is either Montgomery ( all they had was a Rebel 20 and a Renegade combo) or Tallahassee,Fl.. I guess I will just wait and listen to more before making a decision. WHoo knows, I may even like the new Jet City 50 watt head coming out in June :-) What comfuses me is how Orange uses EL-84's on their Tiny and Dual Terror and their distortion is so thick.

[@zx7gp]

NICE!!! You made me want this amp. Nice playing too!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@CMinusInGym no idea what the amp settings were. no pedals used in front of the amp. used the bridge pickup w/tone and volume knobs all the way up.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@stchrismusic I think I used my old logitech C600 webcam. I always use a mix of direct mic on the amp and room audio mic captured from (when this video was filmed) a zoom H2 but now I use an Avantone CK1 mounted up on my desk.

[@surefire1333]

I just played a egnater renegade today. 2 words, loved it!!! this amp can do it all. I play top 40 classic rock and modern etc. I curently have a vox ac30cc2x, ocd version 3, keely blues driver , uber line 6, nice amp but doesn't even come close to being the egg. After hearing what just the amp can do by itself, really no need anymore for all the overdrive pedals and uber distortion ! LOL Nice job on the playing.

[@steveyankees1]

Here we are 13 years later and you sound awesome dude!!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

hah thanks man. I kinda miss this amp but my UAFX Lion pedal and the UAFX OX stomp make an absolutely ripping combo for an cabless/DI stage solution. Also the lion gets a WAY better old brown sound.

[@steveyankees1]

I need to ask you, does this amp have to be roaring loud to sound that good?

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@@steveyankees1 I don't recall ever playing it crazy loud and the master volume helped a lot. But like any other tube amp, yeah it'll sound better as you turn it up. Thankfully we have great cab simulation, load boxes, IR loaders, etc to still let us get a great tone without a cabinet ripping paint off the walls.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@1337Atian not sure. full power, bright engaged, tube blend in the center.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@5klash5 Thanks. That's an eden analog austin overdrive. VERY good tube screamer clone.

[@Hankandthetanktops]

dude- nice sound AND nice playing. good vid*

[@SlowhandKev]

That's the sound in my head, great job. Don't be so hard on your riffs, I'd be very happy to hear that at the local bar...

[@connorrichards6872]

Dude!!!!!!!!! you got some good evh right there. and thank you for showing us that it can be done on a les paul.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Sk8bordr125 it's a 3 way switch I think that controls whether or not the loop itself is engaged in the clean channel/lead channel or both, not individual pedals. this means, you can have the loop engaged on the clean channel but when you switch to the lead channel, the loop turns off. just an example. if you want individual pedal on/off when changing channels, you'll have to setup some midi switching system.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 the wattage difference doesn't cut the volume too much... it's still going to be really loud. it just mainly changes the FEEL of the amp.. less tight. If MF sale also applies to the 30 wat rebel, that would be MUCH better for bedroom jamming as it has a very similar voice but not as loud. It's still loud enough though to gig with.

[@augusti1]

@FastRedPonycar, Yes there is now a 1x12 version, The reason that I want a combo is 'cause I've got a back problem, so it would be easy for small gigs to have a combo. Kind regards Lorenzo

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Rose857 it just depends on what you need. I needed a more portable all in 1 solution for shows

[@brettjamz3]

Playing was alright 👌 with out being rehearsed it was great

[@jimo1294]

Damn brother! That's all I can say...damn brother!

[@gerby90]

@rodrigozamo well i am looking for an amp that lasts, go on gigs with etc. actually 30 watts is enough for me, just gotta fetch a decent cab to go with that, 30 watts of tube power is usually enough for small gigs (no stadiums anytime soon lol). besides most venues will have pa's. but in the end it'll come down to how they sound to my ears, the controls and features and the price. i'll have to see for myself when i get to the megastore in germany that has tons of amps to tryout.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Gwalker99 it seems like listening to the isolated tracks from his stuff, that they were fairly bright but all the analog stuff and tape seemed to knock off the abrasiveness of the sound. I'm using an mxr 10 band eq in the loop now to dial in the low end just right. It doesn't translated much difference on video.. it's more of an "in the room" sound difference if that makes any sense.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 30 watts will sound really nice through a 212... or a 412... EL84's are totally different from EL34's. The amps have a similar voice but the feel of the two amps are very different. The renegade has a tighter more powerful attack and more overall oomph to the sound. On the other hand, the rebel 30 can get a more full and fatter tone at lower volume yet is still plenty loud for stage.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 it's all in the preamp voicing. there are a million things that contribute to the overall voice of an amp.. the power tubes are pretty much near the bottom of that list.

[@ShutupAndPlayGuitarTutorials]

That sounds amazing man! What mics did you use to get that?

[@FastRedPonyCar]

MD421 and SM57 on the speakers and an avantone CK1 room mic.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@skunizzi I've sold the amp since doing this video but the recording out is awful. The only way it could be of legit use is if you were recording it DI from that output and then using speaker cab impulses in the recording software to simulate a cab.

[@augusti1]

Ok thanks for your time and do the thinking with me :)) Greetings, Lorenzo

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@ricebowlranch well.. it's brown~ish but THE brown sound is what you hear from eddie van halen on their first 2 albums. It's usually (as I define it) a clear but compressed and "chewy" lower midrange but still clear and clean at the same time and a nice snarling upper midrange. Basically an old late 60's replica 100 watt super lead plexi on 10 will be a text book example.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

An SM57 and an MD421 on the speakers and an avantone CK1 room mic. I mix about 30% room and 70% direct.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

My Carvin C66 has an original floyd rose and big brass block but it's a darker smoohter voiced guitar not as well suited to a brown sound as the tokai.

[@otasty7991]

Just ordered the head. Can't wait to put it through my Avatar 2x12.

[@JohnPerryMusic]

awesome tone

[@addictedtogear]

It would be cool of you can do a demo and only use the direct recoding out on the renegade. I'l love to hear how good or bad that can sound. Thanks

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@edskate787 They're completely different amps. the TM has 4 separate channels with a few more bells and whistles but the renegade has the tube blend feature, more tone switching options for the 2 channels and a master eq'ing section. I prefer the renegade's voicing over the tourmaster.

[@KleyDeJong]

Man that baby sounds killer. Nice!

[@FCGUITAR]

Uhh...yeah...that sounds great D-rew!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@cartu1970 just the guitar, the amp and a digitech hardwire reverb pedal.

[@88mpny]

@FastRedPonyCar Cool. I already had my sights set on the nova pedal as well. both the amp and pedal sound awesome, you just cant go wrong. $1250 street price for both is a excellent bargain.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 EL34's in the rebel would be pretty cool but they would have to go into the 6V6 sockets as the EL84's have a different pin configuration.

[@CRANKYONE100]

Hey man..can you please do a review of this baby with the OD pedal and some delay and can you play with the amps EQ a bit to show what range of tones you can get..cheers!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@otasty Depends on the show. Small shows, the combo is more convenient. ulitmately, the head and cab will sound better though.

[@hawg427]

I just talked to Egnater on the phone. You can put an EL-34 Tube in the Rebel-30 but you have to get it biased. You can put an EL-34 tube in the Tweaker and it does it automatically. But it is only a single channel amp. That might be a thought, either way.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

They both have their place and each has their strenghts and weaknesses.. the egnater brings a bit more to the table but also costs more so.. each amp is excellent though.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 not at all. There is no "american" or "british" tubes... only preamps and power sections which are voiced as such and just HAPPEN to use a certain type tube. Marshalls use EL84's, 6550's and EL34's but they all sound like marshalls because of their preamp design. Mesas that use EL34's don't sound like marshalls. They sound like mesas. The preamp is largely the identifying factor of an amp's voice. Power tubes can't and won't change that. They'll hcange the FEEL of the amp.

[@hotbeast777]

@FastRedPonyCar they are coming out with a new amp called the vengeance ... it is supposed to be like the tourmaster with a modern metal boost it looks amazing and most likely will sound amazing

[@AndyK.23]

Nice brown tone on your former amp! When you stepped on that phaser, THAT's when it all came together, I think.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Ehrokyn yep. no boost.

[@ricebowlranch]

so this is what the "brown sound" sounds like huh? i've always heard people mention it but i never knew what it actually was since sound is such an elusive concept haha

[@FastRedPonyCar]

yeah later this week I'll hopefully get one with the camera pointing at the control panel and play around with it that way. (similar to what I did on the titan 3 channel prototype videos.)

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@gerby90 look for a used rebel 30. same flavor of tone but lower priced.

[@hawg427]

Thank's for answering all my newbie questions. I'm sure I'll have more for ya. Youu don't have a Rebel30 do ya? I like the way your videos sound. Any suggestions for me on a low wattage amp w/2-channels?

[@gerby90]

OMG this is the EXACT tone i'm aiming for with a new amp. so lovely thick and juicy classic rock/metal tone i LOVE IT! problem is i need to look for a cheap alternative cuz this thing is way out of my budget. heard good things about the Laney GH50l and i'm curious about the Jet City JCA50H, i hope these can come close to this...

[@newstuff1107]

Gerben, good news, now it’s a lot cheaper!

[@domdauphin]

@FastRedPonyCar I don't really want a modern sound but I use to have a rockerverb 50, can the renegade achieve that type of gain? I don't like mesa sound (beside the mark iv). My fisrt amp was a 5150 II head, great for metal or palm muting but that's about it! I have two bands, one taht sound a bit like green day and the other like story of the year. I don't want to use 4x12 and heads and that's why I'm lookign at combo amps!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@hawg427 mine has been solid. the peavey classics are great amps but lack the flexibility that the renegade/rebel have. I also have a 30 watt class A crate V3112T that's usa built that I haven't had any trouble from either. our guitar center hasn't had any returns on the egnater stuff or the bogner alchemist stuff.

[@otasty7991]

Awesome man. I am going to follow suit and sell my carvin v3 and get the renegade head! Its going on eBay right now.

[@licksnkicks]

wow wow and f*cking WOW! I love your tone. I can't afford the renegade but I am looking forward to getting the Tweaker combo. Could I possibly get the brown sound out this amp? Love your playing BTW! Ed is my god the only guitar god there is! Great techniques, harmonics and shredding!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@blooddudemagic thanks man. it would be hard to hear the amp itself with backing tracks. I've got a lot of them but for that reason, didn't use any.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@88mpny This demo uses the nova system

[@88mpny]

@FastRedPonyCar Nova delay or digitech in your info you say its a tc electronics. the amp sounds awesome. saving and selling some gear for the renegade head.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Hankandthetanktops some camera and some from an sm57.

[@paulsdino]

Sounds good actually. Good job.

[@hawg427]

That's what I was hoping you would say. They say you can power a 4X12 cab that that little thing. But a 2X12 will do for me. I save up a little more and wait for the next sale. LOL Thanks.

[@Abs9106]

amazing sound..

[@TheAlexkru]

great sound! really close

[@hawg427]

I wish I could find a video on utube with a side by side comparison on the Rebel-30 and the Renegade. If you run across anything like that let me know. If you have time can you put together a short video playing your Renegade on bedroom volume clean and distortion modes. I had a Fender Super Champ 15 watt Tube amp that I just sold and if I used my pedels I had the volume between 2-3 so I won't disturb the neighbors. But hopefully we will rent a house soon. Then I can blast away. LOL

[@divanola]

these heads also have the sweetest clean side i've heard.....i use mine through two rebel cabs with greenbacks .......if you really want the brown sound try greenbacks in an extension cab since you have the combo

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@ChorltonM21 that would be lack of 100 watt plexi power section architechture. None of the nice chewy compressed lower mids.

[@demonslayer7522]

nice tone !!

[@gottajamm]

nice tone!

[@hawg427]

Here are some of the Amps I have on my list. Orange Dual Terror, Blackstar Venue 20 watthead, Randall RT50 2 or 3 channel and last but not least the Jet City JCA50H. I think Laney makes a 20W head called the Lionheart? Just can't find anyy around here to listen to in person. I think there is one place where you are that has Orange. Mesa Booogie Trans Atlantic 15 watt Head? Any suggestions.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@darrylportelli SM57 and MD421

[@cartu1970]

good sound!!! can you tell me your setup for this amazing sound!!! i hope buy a renegade next year...sorry for my english ja i from argentina! salute you and a lot of rock! Cartu

[@bullpentherapy]

love that amp, very very close to eds tone i wish u could have added all the tricks as well. youknow what i mean !!1 butt i am buying this amp this week thanks.

[@augusti1]

LOVE this sound, only I don't know if I'm going to buy the 112 or the 212. I have already the Peavey Windsor, an old MusicMan 65w and a Bogner Blackstar. Yes I know to many amps :)))), serously what do you think about the 112?? Greetings from Belgium, Lorenzo

[@briankillebrew]

@domdauphin the renegade will do Story of the Year all day. it'll do a lot of heavy stuff but it's not suited to like metal metal, so to speak. I have the head and I love it. The deep switch is your friend!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@augusti1 I didn't know the renegade came in a 1X12? maybe you mean the rebel 30? Anyways, if you just have to have portability, the combo is great. Otherwise, you'll get a better sound from a head and dedicated cab.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

thanks. I'm an IT technician/governmnet contractor though most of my gear is purchased using gig money. the wife regulates my paycheck like a boss but whatever I bring home from the bars or private parties (those are where the big money is) is all mine.

[@hawg427]

Is the Renegade 65/18 watt head through a 2X12 cab overkill for a apartment if i play low volume? I just Love the TONE of the Renegade. I will probably move into a house or large trailer soon. Then I don't have to worry about the volume. LOL I can't think of any other amps that are low wattage that have the Renegade TONE do You? Can you put a vid together using the 18 watt setting on your Renegade? Musicians Friend has a 15% off sale that ends at midnight tonight LOL Thanks, Lou

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@darrylportelli all egnaters are all tube.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@topdog2328 pretty good both up front and the loop.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@ManSeaDude "you really got me" it's off VH's first album. a cover of an old song by the kinks.

[@JackJames9648]

sweet sound!!

[@domdauphin]

I'm trying to decide between this and the Blackstar HT 40 or 60, I really love your sound here but I sometimes need a bit more gain (modern high gain). I'm pretty sure the gain knob was at full? But does this amp takes OD pedal very well? ..maybe add a ts 808 (or maxon 808)in front ??

[@princosix]

I want this amp. Nice video.... playing and mixing. Did you compare your egnater side by side with other amps? The sound quality seems hard to beet for the price. Thanks for the video

[@Mr5150II]

nice sound proffing on your door!

[@BloodShotNow]

I read fastredponycars description of this video, completely agree GUITARS not like riding a bicycle. It's more like keeping wood on the fire. skills vanish quickly

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@augusti1 I'd say still get a head and cab. The combos are really heavy. my 212 combo is easily 80 or more lbs.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@Mr5150II lol it doesn't do much!

[@grumpyoldrockers1048]

Just did a youtube video with my renegade after watching yours. Let me know what ya think. Yours put me in the right direction

[@darrylportelli]

@FastRedPonyCar thanks, really cool tone, is the renegade a tube amp or ss??+

[@longbizzle77]

Great sound! I got a renegade 212 combo about 6 months ago, but I have yet to find the sweet spot of knob / switch settings. Would you mind telling me what settings you're using here, if you remember? I really haven't yet developed an ear for tweaking an amp. I got mine sounding pretty good, but this clip sounds amazing!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

MD421 and SM57 I think

[@FastRedPonyCar]

V30/lead80 celestions

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@longbizzle77 I wish I could remember but the settings changed almost daily