EGO 56V 5Ah Battery Repair (2P pack repair #1)

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Thrifty Tool Shed

Thrifty Tool Shed

4 жыл бұрын

In this video we have a EGO 5Ah Battery on the bench. I purchased this item as a non-working for parts from ebay for around $55 USD. I just wanted to find out what the differences in the larger capacity battery may be and see what failed inside. It ended up being similar and it was a very fortunate easy fix. I will keep you up to date if the 30A fuse holds up under heavier loads in the near future. I may have to get creative with a 40 or 50A fuse replacement if I do have any issues. Hope it helps and Thanks for watching!
* update 4-14-2020: I have not had any issues with the 30A fuse in any tool I have. it's been holding up well!
*update 8-6-20: I ended up soldering in a 40A metal fuse links in this pack as a permanent fix and have not had any issues!
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@peteewing5789
@peteewing5789 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video on how to disassemble the 56V 5Ah battery. Mine is used for the mower and wouldn't go through the charge cycle with the fan starting. Opened it up and everything looked OK. Started cleaning the contacts with emery paper and some film came out. Cleaned the 4 contacts best I could by sliding the emery paper between the contacts. Also, used a que-tip and rubbing alcohol on the charger contacts. Put it onto the charger and the fan started and its charging again. Not the first time li-ion batteries gave me trouble from the charging contacts. As the unit gets older may need to be cleaned more frequently.
@suitersautomotive
@suitersautomotive Жыл бұрын
Dude, awesome! Thanks for posting this. It's always interesting to see how a company built something and the simple fixes to what would otherwise be expensive replacements.
@garybuckle7790
@garybuckle7790 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Took apart my 5A 56v battery that would not charge. On the charger it was just solid red. Had 46v on the battery. Checked the contacts looked black. Took out the contact board so I could get to clean them better. Filed down a wooden paddle (lolly pop stick) put some alcohol on it and cleaned those puppies right up. The stick turned black as. Put the pack together and PTL we got it charging. Thanks for your help.
@brilwiljeff
@brilwiljeff Ай бұрын
I got the red flash. Watched this, disassembled completely,still 53v. cleaned the contacts and now have green. Thumbs up.
@danmortimer8608
@danmortimer8608 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me fix a 4Ah ego battery with this technique. I had a blown fuse and replaced with a 30A automotive.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Just as a reminder the 30A may not hold up for all loads. The mower or chainsaw for example could possibly demand more than the 30A can stand in certain situations. Mine held up just fine until I got in a 40A fuse link and soldered in place. Thanks for sharing!
@georgeavargas3351
@georgeavargas3351 3 жыл бұрын
I like to say TY I have and EGO 56V and by watching your video I fix it. It was blinking red and found it was a dirty contacts. TY again great information. I'm 67 years old and always wanted to work on electronics and your video give me that insight.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Thanks for your comment!
@nigelc2629
@nigelc2629 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I also cleaned the contacts ( 2000 sandpaper ) and it's going way better, I've never leaf blown the section without running out of power & after cleaning the contacts it never skipped a beat.
@sh1529
@sh1529 Жыл бұрын
Can you say more about what contacts you cleaned with sandpaper?
@Guitrum
@Guitrum Жыл бұрын
Just did the fuse replacement with a 30amp automobile fuse just like in the video. Worked like a charm!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Just remember it may be more temporary. I put a 40A fuse link in for a more permanent repair. These packs can easily hit more than 30A for a short duration. Thanks for sharing!
@Guitrum
@Guitrum Жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Would I expect that if the 30amp fuse blows in the battery, then the same behavior as before will start to happen again?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
@@Guitrum Absolutely could, but just know some of the blowers can pull up to 30A on turbo believe it or not! The mowers I have seen have a 40A fuse.
@tonys4396
@tonys4396 3 күн бұрын
I ORIGINALLY POSTED THIS ONE YEAR AGO. I AM REPOSTING IT IN CASE ANYONE HASN'T TRIED, "THE BANG TRICK WORKED .SO glad I saw the comments about banging the battery from about a foot off the ground and dropping it. IT WORKED I had THREE bad batteries. ALL THREE have been working GREAT since May and I recharge and use the OFTEN. HOLY GUACAMOLE. Those three bad ones were here for over a year. I bought two news ones for 200 bucks a piece but something told me NOT to throw those bad ones out. THREE bad batteries now working PERFECTLY for five months with CONSTANT charging. I have the lawn mower, leaf blower and snow blower and I use the blower daily and the lawn mower once per week. HUGE area. SO glad I was the comments about BANGING the batteries. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU"
@codystonehill5808
@codystonehill5808 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! All i could find was a 30amp fuse for my mower, hoping it'll hold up! For the first time in a year... My battery is finally charging. I am so happy.
@jonk8337
@jonk8337 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. I have many EGO power tools and a 2000w power station with four 7.5ah battery. I recently started using one of my 7.5ah battery to power my custom electric recumbent trike. This EGO 7.5ah battery performs better than my 48v ebike battery. I’m glad u do tear downs on these packs. It gives me clues on what these batteries can handle. Keep sharing and posting your videos. They really help a lot.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks so much for your comment!
@richardsanjose3692
@richardsanjose3692 9 ай бұрын
I have the nemisis also with 8 7.5s and just found 2 had a yellow bar in the charge level and showed 30 and 34 % and wouldnt reset or charge. Any ideas
@DrivinginNewYorkCityNYC
@DrivinginNewYorkCityNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Very happy that you are able to save the batteries pack and use it again. This is very cool. =D
@drudunton4774
@drudunton4774 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for posting. Great work on making a clear, well-paced video. Very helpful.
@NickConteSC
@NickConteSC 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had your tech skills and logical calm thinking brain sir!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind comment! I have always liked sharing what we learn as we go because if I can do it so can anyone else who desires to! I wish I could show even more detail in most videos. I never dreamed how hard it would be to cut a video down so it's not super long and boring and still keep in the important parts!
@robertm7197
@robertm7197 Жыл бұрын
WARNING: When pulling apart the end with the power button, be careful to do this gently. Mine would not budge, then let loose, pulled off some of the wires which subsequently shorted and now I have a bit more complicated project on my hands.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, that is mentioned in a few videos and many comments. Some are stuck a little more than others at times.
@annespacedroid
@annespacedroid Жыл бұрын
I had repaired a 1st gen 2.5ah all cells out of service. Replaced all cells, spot welded👌. Green led flashes once each second, cells discharging. Replaced Mjd117 on bms, now have a fully functioning 2.6ah with all new cells & nickel strips (I used 0.2mm pure nickel) 👍 A 4ah 1st gen came back to life after finding corrosion on a bms connector & plug. 👍 Watching your videos certainly helped accomplish this. So thank you for your time & effort uploading your videos/sharing your findings. Much appreciated. I won't be selling any packs, I'll be using them myself & seeing how long my repairs last. 🙄 I only have 2 more packs to work on. Both 1st gen 4.0ah, with different bms in each. One pack was subject to the owner "dropping" it on the ground until it worked. Which led to a connector breaking away from its solder. New connector might solve that. While I was waiting for said connector I decided to start work on the other 4ah. All cells dead, no longer in service. 28 new 2600mah cells later & all new spot welded nickel, I now have a 5.2ah battery. 😁 I had charge balanced each cell & tested the battery, worked perfect. 👍 Looooong runtime. Placing in either standard or rapid charger results in them both reporting the battery is already fully charged. It isn't. Couldn't swap out the BMS from other 4ah, different connectors. 1st gen 2.5ah (now 2.6ah) I repaired had the same connections, so swapped that in, both chargers charge battery properly now, rapid charger shows correct charging levels progress. Rapid charger gets to 100% & then shows one solid red led (over temp, which it isn't) & I'm suspecting that has something to do with the 2.5ah bms having different (lack of?) circuit/software for the 4ah temp sensors. So can I assume the 4ah BMS is at fault? Everything about it works except charging. After only a few seconds the charger shows battery full. Any common parts that fail causing this situation?. Anything I can test?. Or do I need to wait for a donor bms 😒
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Awesome job on your batteries! Thanks for your kind remarks and I am so glad the videos were helpful. It does seem like the BMS on the 4AH to me. The BMS seems to believe one or more cell groups is charged enough to be fully charged. All I would know is to check around for anything obvious around the cell monitoring area of the board. I have not worked on that exact issue yet. I have very little experience with the newer 3rd Gen packs with the fuel gauge. That's the only draw back to working hard to learn about the EGO platform early on. I had success on many battery packs and shared as we went on the journey of troubleshooting. I was fortunate enough to have several spare batteries and able to keep repairing as needed. The down side is I don't have a reason to buy the newer generation so I am falling behind on those differences in those boards of course. I really do like the segmented fuel gauge LEDs though.... Thanks so much for sharing!
@annespacedroid
@annespacedroid Жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed I haven't worked on any fuel gauge type yet either. Guess I'll have a 5.2ah sitting on the shelf (was a 4ah non fuel cell type, now with 2600mah cells & 5.2ah capacity) until I can procure a bms for it. I'm sure I'll find one.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Gotcha, it was the original 1st Gen 4ah pack. I was thinking it was the newer 3rd Gen. Since they have come out with the 4ah again...
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for these videos, I'm gonna watch them to try to diagnose my Ego battery (it's an intermittent fault). If you don't have small enough 40 A fuses, you might solder two 20 A fuses in parallel...
@mlongpine
@mlongpine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have a 4.0 amp hour battery and it had the exact same symptoms. Taking it apart I couldn't find any remnants of a fuse, maybe at never had one and the board was defective from the beginning. I got this battery 2+ yrs ago as part of an open box from Home Depot with my chainsaw. I don't think it even went with that chainsaw because he had to find the battery over to the side, that is why I didn't try to warranty through Ego, and it was marked "as is" from Home Depot. Soldered in a fuse an it now works.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. Always a great feeling giving new life to a nice tool or equipment! Sounds like you may have saved some money on the open box as well!👍
@guyc5846
@guyc5846 3 жыл бұрын
That's a store marking (as is). Never needed to try with ego but have done so with other items. Never run into a company that wouldn't honor warranty if for no other reason than to make me happy.
@theitalian556
@theitalian556 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done sir! I appreciate the informative video!
@narref04
@narref04 4 жыл бұрын
The new ones still go bad... after 7 uses. Customer service have been useless.. Thank you for the video, I may be able to salvage it.
@spanchagn
@spanchagn 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with my 5 amp battery, It died in 4 weeks. But customer service is helpful and is sending me a new battery
@julianking6603
@julianking6603 3 ай бұрын
I've got 1 7.5, 1 2.5, and 3 5.0 (2 older, 1 newer) varying from 5 years old to 3 years with no real issues yet. The only thing the 7.5 goes in is the mower. That's my oldest battery. This year through I did notice a decrease in life though at the start of the season.
@invisi-bill
@invisi-bill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Nice to have the disassembly explained. My one year old 5ah battery had intermittent faults where the red light would come on after around 10 minutes of mowing. Letting it cool for 5 minutes gave me another 10 minutes of mowing. Turned out to be a scorched contact on the plus terminal inside the battery . Upon disassembly I noticed that the plastic around this contact had some carbon soot, making the diagnosis a bit more obvious. Anyway, cleaning up the contacts (as Pete says below) did the trick.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Several people have mentioned connection issues. I have had no connection issues on any of mine as of this time. This is good information.
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 жыл бұрын
So when you say "a scorched contact" do you mean a cold solder point or what? This is what my new battery did after 3 uses. And reading the comments on multiple sites, most say the customer service with EGO is very poor.
@invisi-bill
@invisi-bill 2 жыл бұрын
@@coloradostrong Here is an update the battery problem that I had with the scorched contact (this is one of the external contacts that connects the battery to the mower that must have heated up, pitted and left black soot on the contact's surface). I still have the defective battery but I finally found a way to contact the UK division of EGO directly and they replaced my 5ah battery with a 7.5ah battery under warranty at no charge. The mower has been running fine ever since. If you registered your battery with EGO when you bought it they maybe your best course of action is to pursue a warranty claim?
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 жыл бұрын
@@invisi-bill Thank you for the reply. Many users of this product complain of the battery going to a red light status, like it is overheating. Upon a closer examination of my barely used battery (7.5 amp), I notice there is grease on all of the contacts. Grease and dirt make terrible electrical connections. This is factory grease. It was on all of my chargers, coming from the battery terminals, and my other batteries had the same problem also. I took every battery apart, and used brake cleaner and carb cleaner spray to remove the nasty grease that was black from the dirt and debris. I took care to not let it run onto the surface mount electronics. I can say with confidence that the contacts being entirely crud filled with some thick factory grease was the problem, causing the equipment to turn off, as though the battery was overheated. Every piece of equipment I own from EGO had grease on it.
@Victor-lk7ws
@Victor-lk7ws 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks internet buddy. Had the same issue. Got my 7.5 ah battery back to new.
@DanGinney
@DanGinney 5 ай бұрын
I have a 4A battery that this same trace burned open on. Thanks for the video!
@firehawk6188
@firehawk6188 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I have two dead batteries I picked up free in the recycle bin at work and will see if they failed in the same way.
@Tonisuperfly
@Tonisuperfly 26 күн бұрын
Did they fail in the same way?
@firehawk6188
@firehawk6188 26 күн бұрын
@@Tonisuperfly Nope. They both just had a weak cell presumably from sitting for years un-used? I was able to charge them on my bench and the batteries work ok now. They're not the strongest of the batteries I have but are useable.
@paulstanley8205
@paulstanley8205 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. I have the same fuse out on my 5 Ah. Very clever use of the car fuse.
@PantherMom512
@PantherMom512 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS CHANNEL. New Subscriber in Austin Texas! Currently looking to replace a Mod# BA2240 Ego battery (56V, 4.0 AH) that turned my mower into a lonely sculpture. Seems 4.0 AH was discontinued. Grr. Looking at "investing" $250 in a 5.0 AH ($250 for A BATTERY!) Now, my tinker heart wants to crack open my old 4.0 AH and see if it only needs a $2 fuse!!!! I know soldering. And the old battery was heading to a recycling bin, anyway. Nothing to lose and $245 to save! YES. I will be cautious. Daddy taught me well. I will plan to touch-back with a debrief for you. --- Rock on!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, safety first always, then lots of fun. Best of luck to ya!
@Scootphoria
@Scootphoria 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get around to experimenting on the 4.0amp battery to see if you can get it going again?
@InexplicableBill
@InexplicableBill 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man thank you for doing this. I have 4 batteries for 3 different devices that are still under warranty one which is giving me errors and charging issues. I'm looking forward to whatever EGO is going to do for me but as soon as I'm out of warranty on these expensive things I'm going to be coming back to this video! My little DIY solder gun won't be up to the task tho so I guess I'll need an upgrade! Thanks again!
@damirka83
@damirka83 2 жыл бұрын
Did EGO replace your battery under warranty? Wandering how long did it take them to send you new one?
@InexplicableBill
@InexplicableBill 2 жыл бұрын
@@damirka83 things got out of hand and I dropped the ball. I was just in my shed this past weekend and kicked myself in the butt that I've got to get in touch with ego about this.
@CH-jq7xg
@CH-jq7xg 2 жыл бұрын
@@damirka83 I've had two fail in the last 3 weeks. I called them and registered them over the phone. They did a minute or so of troubleshooting and then sent me new ones. They arrived within a week. Very easy to deal with.
@pleco101
@pleco101 Жыл бұрын
I'll be blunt. I'm disgusted by this brand. I bought 2 blowers and a trimmer last summer 2021. In total, we have 2 x 5.0AH batteries and 1 2.5AH battery. (56v) This being the 2nd summer - both of the 5.0AH batteries are having great difficulty charging, or even holding the charge. You place it on the charger and not more than 10 minutes later, it stops charging. Sometimes, of the 5 flashing bars - it will drop right back down to 2 bars, after supposedly charging higher than that. I have to babysit the battery/charger by coming back every 10 minutes or so, to reseat the battery to begin charging again. They are really expensive products and I haven't used them that much at all. We're talking maybe every other weekend for 1/2 hr. to 45 minutes per use. Disappointed would be an understatement. I'm going through warranty replacement.
@pleco101
@pleco101 Жыл бұрын
@@CH-jq7xg Good to hear - I'm going through warranty as well. I already registered everything last summer 2021, so everything should be on file.
@BatteryTestChannel
@BatteryTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Good to get confirmation that this is 14S2P as I had suspected.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Battery Test Channel - well I am subscribing!
@BatteryTestChannel
@BatteryTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Thank you! I’m a tiny/new channel just recording my shenanigans. I’m doing a video on ego batteries and chargers and I’ll be sure to credit you :)
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Wishing you the very best!
@teknotech
@teknotech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. You reminded me of my old copier technician, with the use of captan tape. You are gifted and thorough, much respect. Liked and subbed.
@alyusmuse3839
@alyusmuse3839 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video bro, I like your contents keep going!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment!
@egomaniac8510
@egomaniac8510 3 жыл бұрын
Great video i wish i had the knowledge and understanding you have to be able to make these repairs should i ever need to.
@robertthompson3447
@robertthompson3447 Жыл бұрын
I got a laptop for $5 like this. Pulled it apart and discovered the fuse has blown. 😎
@spidertickles9710
@spidertickles9710 3 жыл бұрын
You just saved me a few $. Thankyou!
@sendilcoumar4836
@sendilcoumar4836 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you,. Thank you.. Thank you.. I had exact same symptoms, opened it up saw the blow fuse, but it is not comming off easily , can use 40 Amp auto fuse on the top of blow fuse . Thanks Thrifty Tool Shed!
@lincolnfetcher6879
@lincolnfetcher6879 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video and very helpful. I’m gonna try this fix. I just did a fix on the two soldered in fuses on the power distribution board the SNT 2100 snowblower, by installing replaceable fuses. I had to go to MAXI fuses in order to do 60 amps. Might the battery fuse need to be 60 amps also?
@Roadster12156
@Roadster12156 2 ай бұрын
great work dude
@BlueRidgeMarine
@BlueRidgeMarine 4 жыл бұрын
Good video TTS. Thumbing up.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment!
@FabulousDjRichyS
@FabulousDjRichyS 4 жыл бұрын
Saved me !! Thank you !!!
@travisstorms9951
@travisstorms9951 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! ✌😊
@xxycom8963
@xxycom8963 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍
@danielpeirano5638
@danielpeirano5638 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video.
@crevasse5396
@crevasse5396 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad when manufacturers solder fuses to boards. 99.9% of people toss them instead of replacing which definitely takes some skill. Why not a user replaceable fuse and slot. I'd even go with a proprietary size and shape to insure correct voltage, etc. I had the same problem years ago on a Black and Decker air station. Glass fuse was soldered to the circuit board and it failed in the first few uses. I replaced it with a fuse holder I could access from the side of the unit near the switch. Hasn't failed since! PSA, friends don't let friends buy B&D tools.
@Tapioca674
@Tapioca674 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You’re the boss!
@elmowilcox
@elmowilcox 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff sir
@sendilcoumar4836
@sendilcoumar4836 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@darkmagician1184
@darkmagician1184 4 жыл бұрын
I'm having an issue with my 5 and 7.5 ah batteries, and I didn't realize it was probably the batteries until today when I slipped in a 2.5ah to finish mowing. Basically, they won't trigger the mower to go change speed/gear when load changes (either low or high), they run at "medium" all the time, and if I hit thick grass, they blink yellow and shut-off. I rarely use the mower now that I've moved to a large lot and bought a riding mower, but I still use it to mow a drainage ditch that is too steep for the rider. Really would rather not get a new one if this can be fixed, it's only 4 years old this month.
@williamrutledge8572
@williamrutledge8572 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video very informative. Have you ever had trouble with the low end standard charger base. I am not getting any charging action on charger
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I have not. I would look over the electrolytics for any physically leaky or swollen. Most SMPS type chargers have a fuse, relay, and around half a dozen electrolytics. Other than that, I am not sure. I have 3 of these standard chargers, but mostly use the fast charger.
@mikederonne3388
@mikederonne3388 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2.5ah battery that when put in the charger, on the battery blinks Green, then Red, Orange, Green, Red. There is 56v on the outside connector, and 56 in the cells. Seen this? EGO sent me a warranty replacement by the way, great support and now hopefully i can make a backup battery. Or it's going on ebay for you to buy for parts :)
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Well the packs do cycle through the red, orange,green led while it is charging, that is normal for my Gen2 packs. Are you saying that it just goes through and then stays red? How does it perform in a tool?
@mikederonne3388
@mikederonne3388 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed It runs for full OK about 30 seconds in the blower, then flashes red, then turns off. I removed and reinstalled and it did the same thing for another 30 seconds. I put in the charger and it turned on the fan, blinked green on the charger for a few minutes, then turned full green (charged).
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like one of the cells is dropping out. The low voltage cut out for cell protection at 2.7V or so. It could really be a bad cell and could be a loose connection or other issue with the BMS board. I have had pack with a bad cell drop off quick like that flashing red.
@Engineerboy100
@Engineerboy100 Жыл бұрын
HaHa, that was sweet! Man I enjoyed watching that. I'm gonna order one off eBay and do the same thing just for fun lol Thanks for posting.
@austinroberson8
@austinroberson8 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Was thinking about getting an Ego chainsaw and wanted to see some videos on how hard they are to troubleshoot. Great video man. Also what kind of accent is that Carolina’s? Thanks for the info.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Georgia! I do like the EGO equipment. The chainsaw impressed me. Love my edger and string trimmer. Don't plan on going back to gas. Thanks for your comment.
@islandmonusvi
@islandmonusvi 2 жыл бұрын
Saving the Planet …one battery at a time 💪🏼
@eudaxia
@eudaxia 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job on the video! I have this same exact problem but with the never version of the 5.0Ah. I'm getting a new one sent since it's only a month old but I'd like to try and fix the broken one. What would you suggest as a more 'permanent' fix? A 30amp strip link fuse? The blown PCB fuse on the newer battery looks slightly different. Wish I could post a picture. The surge also took out the Powerhead for the multi-tool. I'm going to take that apart next to see if there is something replaceable inside.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
This link is similar to the ones I used on mine. They are about the same price if you buy 1 or 10! I had to trim them up a bend them and once soldered in I have a 40A link. www.ebay.com/itm/Strip-Link-Fuse-Auto-30A-40A-50A-60A-80A-100A-/265083948597?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@eudaxia
@eudaxia 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed interestingly, the power head that also blew at the same time has a 50A ceramic fuse that I’m trying to find now and hopefully replace. You’ve given me confidence! Back to the battery, the gap left by the blown fuse is only a few millimeters. Looks like a copper strip with a small gap in between. How would you approach that? It looks slightly different from above. Maybe I didn’t fry the entire piece of metal.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video on the 14" chainsaw controller repair. It blew the 30A fuse on the small controller in it and it blew due to shorted transistors in the controller. I got 2 of these type controllers working out of 5 I worked on. Sometimes it's more issues than Mosfets and fuse. The power head is different, I wish you luck. The battery seems different than mine. Mine simply had a pcb type fuse and the trace had blown away.
@gjcooooy
@gjcooooy Жыл бұрын
I have used the link from 50a fuse, just cracked the case and retrieved the fusible metal and soldered it in.
@jeffcibulka5063
@jeffcibulka5063 3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@JBM425
@JBM425 4 жыл бұрын
I have to vent, and then I'll post a question separately. :) So, I have had my mower for 4 years. This spring, I ran my mover with my 7.5 Ah battery once, and there was absolutely no trouble. The very next time I used the mower, it ran for about 10 or 15 seconds before stopping. If I popped open the lid, removed and reseated the battery, it ran briefly again before stopping. Popping it on the fast charger indicated the battery was charged. After trying some tricks suggested by the eGo community, it still doesn't work. You would think after four years, eGo would have either a repair service or some sort of refurbishing/core exchange program. People like me who don't know how to work with electronics (especially how to use a multimeter) are at a loss. $350 to replace such a battery is disappointing, and not being able to get it repaired by eGo is equally disappointing. All they tell me is to turn the pack in to a recycling center that accepts Li-ion batteries. I suppose buying a new pack works out to $85 a year plus the cost of charging versus paying for gasoline, having to prep the mower for fall storage, and hoping you can restart the mower the following spring. Paying $350 in one fell swoop takes my breath away, though.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is alot of money. Sorry you are having issues. I hope to get at least 8 years out of my packs. I have only had the one failure and within warranty and EGO was really good about that one. I was able to keep and repair it, that was one of my first EGO videos. I will not be going back to gas at this point, but yes if I lost a big pack it would be painful. Hopefully you will have luck getting it back going!
@darkmagician1184
@darkmagician1184 4 жыл бұрын
What irks me the most is the 7.5ah is $350-400 to replace, you can get the whole mower + 5ah for that price, but worse, you can get a brand new backpack blower with that 7.5ah battery for $300 ($50 cheaper), while the backpack blower sans battery is $200. I really enjoy this mower when it's working properly, but it really should last more than 4 years (or ~200 hours)
@justinhan6343
@justinhan6343 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you do one on the greenworks 82v 12.5ah gl900? They're going for a good price on battery clearing house and wanted to see one under the test. Thanks and great work!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
If I run accross one I sure will. I have not come accross any Green works packs to work on yet. Very interesting though.
@joelk9603
@joelk9603 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, learned a lot! When the battery is in the tool, do the center terminals of the 4-terminal interface have any function, or is it just the +/- terminals supplying power that are active? I have a Greenworks 60v mower, but I suspect the interfaces are similar. Thanks Thrifty Tool Shed!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
The tools usually get the D-terminal and the + and - on the EGO tools and the charger usually gets all four of I remember correctly. I did a couple quick videos about the T-terminal and the D- terminal due to the number of questions surrounding the topic. I shared what little I had found out about it. Thanks for your comment!
@joelk9603
@joelk9603 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Looked up your prior videos on the T and D terminals, very useful. I have Ryobi tools that use only the +/- terminals to supply power to the tool. The pack will shut off if it overheats or falls below threshold voltage, so it appears the smarts are built into the pack. Thanks for making great videos!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelk9603 Yes the Ryobi 18V and the 40V have the Mosfets in the pack that will cut the power from the cells. I assume Ryobi likes doing that so that many of the tool only prices can be kept really low? Ryobi high capacity packs are really pricey to me though?
@joelk9603
@joelk9603 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Since the price for a 60V/30A N-Channel MOSFET is less than a dollar in quantity, that should not add too much to the price of a battery pack or reduce the cost of the tool by much. It would also simplify the battery/tool interface by keeping the overcurrent shutoff components in the replaceable battery pack.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Very true, I believe they over size these mosfet to like 200A if I remember correctly to keep them from being an issue/problem. Still I see way more Ryobi packs in general with issues due to the BMS than any other manufacturers such as DeWalt , Milwaukee or Makita that just send the signal for the tool to shut down. Just something I noticed since the li-ions came out.
@vkarabin
@vkarabin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me.. where can I buy extra cells.thanks
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I have bought several bad packs from eBay over a several year period. At first I could get them for around $15-20 each and well worth it, I had not received a pack with all bad cells until more recently. It is getting hard to find a good deal on these, I guess more people doing the same is making them more sought after, but I watch patiently to buy the ones at a good price, I don't mind paying for what about 8 cells would be worth to me, I usually can get at least 8 good cells from one. Still always a gamble. We have had several viewers comment on the cells they think there packs have in them: (Jonathan Ridder) mentioned his had Sanyo UR18650NSX. (Ipissed) mentioned his are Samsung INR18650 with phase change sleeves made of paraffin wax/carbon graphite.
@jayesluton
@jayesluton 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I very much appreciate your videos. I have a couple nonfunctional batteries, they are fully charged, the light is solid green when you push the power button but then flashes yellow before cutting off. When you try to use them they only work for a second then cut off and flashes yellow. What's your thoughts on this issue, any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I am replying from memory here, but I believe the orange flash is either a overload situation or a temperature issue. I assume you have already checked for mechanical bind etc. on your mower or tool of choice? Maybe you have even verified other batteries will run the tool just fine? If that is the case, it seems as the pack could have a issue with one of the thermistors (ntc) the pack has 3 of them that I know of. One of the ntcs is on the BMS board next to the battery monitor connector and each of the bank of 7 cells in each pack half has a ntc on them for temp monitoring. I think you can test the ntc at the BMS by way of the T terminal on the pack. Compare ohm reading with known good pack with the faulty one. I can give you more details when I get home but I am thinking at ambient of around 70F maybe negative terminal to T terminal measures around 10K-14K? I would check a known good pack to double check! Best of luck! Thanks for your comment!
@newhan4914
@newhan4914 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for much for all the upload. I have similar issue. My battery measured about 10 ohms from negative to T. The negative to positive is reading about 46V. I need to look at other of your videos on replacing the thermistor. What do you think is going on with my battery? I’m not sure if the original poster has this issue solved.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind comment. T to - Should around 10K ohms at room temp. And for example 90⁰F outdoors it might read 6K and 50⁰F it might read 15K etc. It should not read 10 ohms. It is more NTC thermistors inside of the pack as well that feedback to board for each half and also temp. Monitoring board in the middle of the 2 pack halves for larger packs. Sometimes a bad connection on those boards can cause an issue. I think the 1st gen packs had push on connectors to the boards and balancing connections.
@newhan4914
@newhan4914 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed I’ve measured the negative to T again and it is 10k. I’ve read the measurements incorrectly with the analog meter. I’ve also measured each individual cell and all cells measured about 3.3v each. I guess that’s still ok. Do you think it’s still one of the thermistor? BTW, I could no find a video of your that showed the thermistor troubleshooting and replacement. Would you please point me to that? Thanks again.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, your cells seem good then. Your NTC on the BMS board checks well. It is still one NTC on both halves of the pack on the bottom side and those feed back to the BMS top connectors usually with small black wires as I mentioned a little bit on my very first BMS repair video.kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3mTeIZmnrqtsK8 It is also temp. Monitoring boards in the center of the pack on 5ah packs and above that I mentioned in the 5ah pack blinking orange repair. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIilpHeHaciApqM
@Matt.ramos88
@Matt.ramos88 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 is that fuse a common failure point with these batteries?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
It's very rare to me. I tend to see it when people use the packs with things other than EGO equipment. It's popular to use them for ebikes etc.
@jangles25
@jangles25 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spreading the knowledge! I have an interesting scenario for you. I know you don’t have much experience with the 7.5 batteries but figured I’d run it by you incase I missed anything. The BMS shows it’s low battery (one red led segment) but when hooked up to the charger it blinks fully charged and doesn’t charge the battery. I measured voltage at + and - terminals and it’s giving me 55V. Any ideas? Thanks again for the awesome videos!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind comment! I actually still do not have the newer packs with the segmented gauge. for that reason I can't say for sure. I would most likely lean toward checking voltages across all 14 cell sets and make sure one of them is not low. It could possibly be one cell set causing this and why it still shows 55V. Possible to have 13 sets that are close to fully charged and one that is so low the BMS is showing an error. Wish I could tell you more, but I have so many original and repaired packs now that I have no reason to spend money on the newer packs, but I do love that fuel gauge! Best of luck to ya?
@jangles25
@jangles25 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed awesome! I’ll take it apart and let you know if I come across the solution. Thanks again!
@nokiaphone5442
@nokiaphone5442 4 жыл бұрын
Good job. What cells are those if needed to be replaced?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I could not find any information on mine, but we have had several comments from viewer about these cells. (Jonathan Ridder) mentioned his had Sanyo UR18650NSX. (Ipissed) mentioned his are Samsung INR18650 with phase change sleeves made of paraffin wax/carbon graphite. Hope it helps. Thanks for your comment!
@thehometipsshow
@thehometipsshow 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. If you have to replace any of the cells, what brand does Ego and you use?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
It is hard to say for sure which cells are in the packs due to the unmarked cells but we know they are close to 2500mah due to the 2.5ah, 5ah etc. rating. I bought several bad packs from eBay over the last 4 years or so and tested and collected the good cells from some packs while that helped me repair many packs. We know they will be high current cells. We have had some comments from viewers on here saying the cells they thought their packs have..... (Jonathan Ridder) mentioned his had Sanyo UR18650NSX. (Ipissed) mentioned his are Samsung INR18650 with phase change sleeves made of paraffin wax/carbon graphite. I get asked this over and over I have a video discussing some of this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGq2gIOMetaaodk
@thehometipsshow
@thehometipsshow 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed thank you!
@TheOneAndOnlyTBash
@TheOneAndOnlyTBash 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have the EGO solar generator and any thoughts on it ? I heard from the EGO rep that they are going to be adding a solar panel option to it.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I do not, sorry!
@whyhowwhen
@whyhowwhen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos, they are very informative! May I ask a question? I have a Ego 56 v 5Ah battery that will not light when placed on the charger nor does the charger fan come on to indicate charging. The voltage across the positive and negative terminals is 46.6 volts. I took the battery apart following the instructions in one of your videos and found two swollen cells. Would replacing these cells likely fix the issue with it not charging? I’m hesitant to go through the process of replacing them if it won’t fix the problem. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
It is hard to say for sure. I have not seen one not charge or try to charge with just a couple bad cells unless they are very bad. With that said, it could be though. I know when the voltage is low on the pack that the standard charger will pulse and try to charge or boost so it may be able to charge. If the pack indicator is blinking red when pressed it could be the problem....
@GenerationXT
@GenerationXT Жыл бұрын
An SMD mount fuse would probably mount on the pads just fine and take up less space. You would just have to pull the specs to make sure the length, would allow the end caps to make enough contact with the solder pads.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have bought a couple now. The Little fuse 40A. They are not cheap though.
@GenerationXT
@GenerationXT Жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Try checking into some of the other brands. When going through Mouser and Digikey's inventory, I noticed the Bel Fuse brand was cheaper. Digikey has the Bel Fuse 0678H9400-02 (40A 125VDC) for 1.36 each. You could take that part number and run it through a Google search as well.
@raylo4074
@raylo4074 3 жыл бұрын
I just took apart a 2.5Ah Ego battery to troubleshoot why it isn't working... And the end cap was way more stubborn coming off than what you show in the videos. And when it did release the 6 small wires pulled out of the connector in the cap. You might consider including a warning about this. My pack is done now for sure. No way I can restore that connector.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
I do have more recent videos such as 4ah pack repair videos that I mention that already. If I only knew how to get all of hours of video to include everything and still be only 10-20 minutes long I would have alot more subscribers for sure! I can't go back and change a 3 year old video but I do have newer ones that I try hard to fill in gaps on. Hate you had the issue, thanks for sharing the information.
@FirstLast-ml7yf
@FirstLast-ml7yf Жыл бұрын
This might be a nice little ebike battery if you could bring the positive and negative outputs out of the case to Anderson connectors...I get about 20 watt hours per mile, so good for short in ranges up to 10 miles.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Many people use these or at least show much interest in these for EBikes for sure. Since my first EGO repair help videos over 6 years ago I have seen a lot of comments from the EBike community.
@poransingh8420
@poransingh8420 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is very informational!! I have a question, how would i wire this Nexus Ego battery up for pass-through charging? or direct charging, the wiring schematic? thank you.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind comment! I am not exactly sure what you are asking as far as the charging goes. Are you referring to Nexus power station or Nexus escape?
@poransingh8420
@poransingh8420 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed not exactly, basically looing to charge it while discharging it. i want to charge it directly while using it so the power is sustained and stays charged, sorta like what this guy did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnYpK1jZ8eFe5Y but he wont share how to wire it up in the battery for pass-through charging.
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ Жыл бұрын
Hot air rework unit would make quick work of that stuff.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Yes, I like my Hot air station for sure. I use mine often on the SMD repairs etc. I don't use it on these close to the plastic connectors though.
@fnjss
@fnjss 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. I have a 5 amp battery that is not working. When you push the indicator button, it does not light up at all (green or red). I checked to see if there was any voltage left and I got a reading of 32 volts. Any idea what the problem might be?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Well the pack should not be that low safely. The cells should all be above 2.7V. so 32V means the average of the 14s in series is less than 2.2V or so. So I typically test each cell (in this case cell cluster since 5ah has 2p or 2 cells in parallel and 14s or 14 of these clusters of the 2 cells in series) most likely the cells have pulled too low, to find out you have to use DMM to test each cell and see if just one cluster or so is bad or if the cells are balanced but all are low it could possibly take a little boost charge and get above 46V or so it may start charging on its own charger again. I have a video from several years ago about cell balancing after my very first EGO 56V BMS repair.
@pcsolber
@pcsolber 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a question on a non working 56v battery that is flashing red. I checked the power and it shows 60V of power, so it seems to have good voltage, but still does not charge or work. Does this mean it has a bad ntc? If so, what is needed to by-pass or fix?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I know the packs charge to 58V typically, I must say I have not read one at 60V yet. That is close to over voltage, I say that because if some individual cells have issues that means some cells could possibly be under and some over the average of 4.3V on that 60V? I would check each individual cell voltage and see if they are all reading ok. Also, is the pack flashing red when you press button right away or is it showing solid green first and then blinking red after a couple seconds? The NTC's typically read somewhere around 10k ohms at room temp, I talked about this some in the video "what is the T-terminal" it is 3 termistors on the 2.5ah pack.
@charmer4you
@charmer4you 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed i have a battery that does what you said, blinks green, then red. What does that mean? Appreciate your help.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
@@charmer4you well if it is blinking green it is usually shorted Q12 transistor as mentioned in the first 56V pack BMS repair. If also blinking red, that is usually low cell detected. I showed this in the 4ah pack repair#3.
@charmer4you
@charmer4you 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed thanks so much!!!!
@ICanDoItMyself
@ICanDoItMyself 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a service that could repair/rebuild our batteries. I have a 5.0 that doesn't hold a charge long anymore.
@danvenezio3720
@danvenezio3720 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, due you know what fuse they recommend in the 7.5 AH battery mine was in a flood.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
I have shared on here in several comments that I used 50A fuse links and soldered them in. There is no direct replacement that I know of. I bought the longer links and cut them down and soldered them in place. I needed the 200w iron, alot of mass to hear up to unsolder and resolder.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Something similar to these... www.ebay.com/itm/Strip-Link-Fuse-Auto-30A-40A-50A-60A-80A-100A-/263085698399?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
@nawtn
@nawtn 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. My battery is flashing red in the charger. What does this indicate?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Check the pack voltage. If it is not above 42v or so one or more of the cells may be bad. If voltage is good it could be one of the NTC's .
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 3 жыл бұрын
DON'T understand ANY of this electrical stuff BUT I'm digging how you used a auto fuse to fix it, I would think it would be beneficial to of soldered one of those auto fuse holders to the terminals & located the actual fuse OUTSIDE the case for future replacement of the fuses when they blow
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I almost did that with a fuse holder and drilled hole to route outside. I instead used a fuse link to more permanently fix it. I later soldered on the 40A metal fuse link strip for 2 reasons: The main reason is that the automotive fuse even though it worked well temporary it was not rated for 60V. The other reason is 30A may not be enough for some heavier loads such as mower or chainsaw. It did fine with weed trimmers and blowers though. Thanks for your comment!
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 3 жыл бұрын
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@TheKimberbart
@TheKimberbart Жыл бұрын
I could listen to your patient, calming, informative, southern accent all day... I'm pouring a margarita and putting this 12 minutes of bliss on loop...HA!
@JeremyK1421
@JeremyK1421 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I just bought the pole saw attatchmet for my powerhead. I was using it to cut back some arborvitaes & think i knicked my wire fence. The powerhead abruptly stopped & after i checked to make sure nothing was bound up, it wouldnt do anything. Full charge, chain on saw spins, just no go in the powerhead. Does this sound like something that may have blown the fuse in the battery & why my powerhead isnt working? I dont have another battery to test out the tool & need to get the right bit for those screws. I was just hoping to not spend $ on a battery, especially if thats not the problem, whole setup (minus pole saw) is only a year old, but i cannot for the life of me find my receipt. Thanks for this vid, great work 👍
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
It could be a fuse in the pack for sure. The best way to check (since you don't have another one to verify) is to put a multi-meter on the packs + & - terminals and see if you have voltage there. It should be around 56V depending on charge. If the fuse is blown it will not read any voltage. Hope it helps and thanks for your kind comment!
@JeremyK1421
@JeremyK1421 Жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed yea I went to do that, but my cheap voltmeter prongs aren't long enough to reach the batteries +/- terminals in/on the pack. I'll figure that out or borrow my buddies meter right up the road, country living ftw 😁 Thanks for the reply, I'll start with testing that, definitely subscribing to your channel & have youreself a great day! 👍
@andyross1069
@andyross1069 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the 1K likes for you! Very helpful video - thanks
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
awesome! Thanks!
@clearz3600
@clearz3600 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I just got an Ego there a few weeks back and the battery won't charge more than 2-3 bars. Gonna mow the lawn a few more times before I call them about it and get a replacement. BTW I cant tell are they 11850s with something wrapped around them or something else. Any idea? OLT The fuse should be independent of the total amp-hour rating since it deals with spikes in current..
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
The cells are 18650 cells with a phase change sleeve. It is hard to say for sure which cells are in the packs due to the unmarked cells but we know they are close to 2500mah due to the 2.5ah, 5ah etc. rating. I bought several bad packs from eBay over the last 4 years or so and tested and collected the good cells from some packs while that helped me repair many packs. We know they will be high current cells. We have had some comments from viewers on here saying the cells they thought their packs have..... (Jonathan Ridder) mentioned his had Sanyo UR18650NSX. (Ipissed) mentioned his are Samsung INR18650 with phase change sleeves made of paraffin wax/carbon graphite.
@clearz3600
@clearz3600 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Yes I meant 18650. I think 11850 is a directory enquires phone number where I'm from lol. That should make it trivial to fix the battery down the line. I've never heard of phase change sleeves so I'll have to do a bit of googling. Thanks for the reply.
@joelnowlin807
@joelnowlin807 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great Ego vids, TTS! Can you tell me what the circuit boards do that are between the two cell packs on these batteries? I looked through most of your videos but didn't see anything on it. I just installed all new cells on my 5.0 and got it all put back together but I seem to have snapped off one of the small rectangular electronic bits that lay right on the end of each cell. When assembled, it started arcing between the circuit board and that cell until I could unscrew the housing and remove everything.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have not worked on the 5ah that far yet. I have been asked that alot and I have one I need to get into this week! So maybe I will find out real soon. I will mention that some the comments with others, it's been mentioned these in-between boards seemed to them to have thermal cut-offs? I am not sure if they are real thermal cut-offs or if thermistors?
@joelnowlin807
@joelnowlin807 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Right. I thought they might be a temperature monitor of some type because of the way they're placed at one end of each cell, but you know much more about electronics than I do. I'll see if the pack works without the one little "sensor".
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelnowlin807 That will be interesting for sure, I would think it would cause issue if not in circuit. Keep us posted!
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed You make a terrific vid Mr. TTS, however, _Alot_ is a town in India and _a lot_ is more than one of something.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
@@coloradostrong Thanks for the somewhat compliment and I also like feedback on what could be better, however, I'd rather someone just say when and where the issue was since it could have been years ago since a video was uploaded and I surely make many mistakes for sure. I hope whatever it is that everyone knew I was not talking about some town in India! Not all words are as easy to spell as smart or ass.
@Justcuz99
@Justcuz99 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna try to repair one of my batteries until i saw this 😵‍💫
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
Some are simple fixes and some not so much...
@desotopete
@desotopete 4 жыл бұрын
Any recommendation to keeping a battery pack healthy? What makes them fail? I hear about overheating. Is this just something that can randomly happen? thanks.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
For most packs, some protection is built in. So overtemperature is usually picked up by packs NTC Thermistor and cuts the pack/tool before really bad damage. The Battery Management System also stops the pack from over charge and under discharge. With that said, most packs built in a tight (brick) configuration have overtemp issues at least over time if the are run hard. Even if the pack does shut down the pack can still be adversely affected (in my opinion). I really look for the pack designed with great air flow. (Such as EGO) Another minor detail is that li-ion cells like to be stored below 30% if stored for long period of time. Li-ion packs are so much better than the older Ni-cd packs, but they can still give issues for sure, for one thing we are working through the learning and adaptation of the BMS with alot of manufacture's having learning curves and issues. Exciting to see how much better they are getting and how much longer they are lasting. Hope your packs hold up, we do what we can!
@desotopete
@desotopete 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed thanks for info
@Tonyplat98
@Tonyplat98 4 жыл бұрын
Hey just curious any issues with the 30A fuse yet?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I have not had any issues yet!
@mergsTM
@mergsTM 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, I have a blown trace fuse on my 56V battery as well (I'm pretty sure it blew when my chainsaw bogged down on a limb under tension). Any precautions to take before attempting to solder on a auto mini fuse as you did (did you disconnect anything for example)? Also, and this may sound silly, do you think its necessary to unsolder and remove the old trace or could one simply solder the new fuse right on top of the blown trace fuse. Thank you!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, it is always a risk with lithium cells that is for sure. I treat them like gasoline. So excellent question. I make sure nothing is able to touch across or short while moving the connector board around even tape up connections if needed. Being very careful I have never had an issue. I also only put the mini fuse in mine as a temporary fix until I got in some fuse links rated for 40A and then I soldered them in place of the temporary fuse. These links were from eBay as 40A fuse links and I had to use these as they were the only fuse small enough to fit the low clearance of the housing. I did remove my trace fuse on mine before soldering the new one in because it was burned and also it gave me a little more room on the board to mount the replacement.
@mergsTM
@mergsTM 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Thank you sir! Is this the fuse you were talking about on Ebay? www.ebay.com/itm/313398931375
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
This link is similar to the ones I used on mine. They are about the same price if you buy 1 or 10! I had to trim them up a bend them and once soldered in I have a 40A link. www.ebay.com/itm/Strip-Link-Fuse-Auto-30A-40A-50A-60A-80A-100A-/265083948597?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@mergsTM
@mergsTM 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed boom, awesome. had trouble locating these so really appreciate the link, thanks again! buying a some supplies off your amzn link today.
@richiec7700
@richiec7700 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a current shunt. If you do a search for GPU power limit bypass, you'll see them used on Graphics cards to determine the amount of current going thru the connector.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
It does look very similar to a SM shunt. This one is in fact a PC trace fuse though. I am not sure at what current the shunt would fail at? I ended up soldering a 40A fuse link accross mine for a more permanent fix. Thanks for your comment.
@LAAdams17
@LAAdams17 3 жыл бұрын
Newbie questions: I have a 2.5A battery I've had for several years that charges, but only works for several minutes before discharging. Is there any way to recondition it? A special charger that might do this? Also, is it better to leave batteries on the charger after they've charged or to remove them until needed? I'm a residential user . . . only use my tools about 1x per week. Thanks in advance.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
I have had no issue leaving mine on the charger if used regularly. I would store it out of charger if not used for a few weeks though. as far as the pack, I have some videos on that after I did my very first video repairing the 2.5ah 56V pack. I did mention that the cells had gotten out of balance and I used a Drok DC-DC converter to help me bring the voltage up and you can also use a DC power supply if it has CV and CC so you will need the Constant Voltage and Constant Current and you can charge individual cells up to be balanced as well. In the videos following that first repair I did some updates on the pack and had to replace some cells that had pulled too low to have good capacity still. You may find some of that helpful as yours most likely is similar to mine after that repair. If the cells get too unbalanced or if some of them drop in capacity too quickly the pack will shut down early as it tries to protect the cells from over discharge. Best of luck to ya!
@davidhenson256
@davidhenson256 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking your opinion... I have a 7.5ah battery that doesn't show any lights or function when the button is pressed. It's reading 56v after a charge and seems to hold well. I've tried swapping the bms with another non-functioning battery that originally had dead cells so I thought the bms I was swapping was good. Any ideas?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
This is puzzling. I have not had a issue just like that. When a fuse is blown it will not have output or charge. I do not believe a broken wire to BMS will still allow charging and run the tool. A broken wire will stop the lights from working.... I have never worked on the 7.5Ah pack, but I assume the BMS is very close to the same, just more connections. If the replaced BMS is doing the same thing though, I would double check the wires on the connectors themselves. Also as mentioned in the video I have about the cell wiring, when you press the button it should wake up and have 10V or so accross the Capacitor on the DC-DC conveter. Best of luck to ya! Let us know what you find.
@chenchen8351
@chenchen8351 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have the exact same problem with my ego battery, may I know where you get the 40A metal fuse that you end up using? link?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
I used one similar to this and cut it down and soldered it with a larger 200W soldering iron. www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pieces-Strip-Fuse-Link-40A-MERCEDES-AUDI-VW-BMW-40-Amp-Glow-Plug-Diesel-/313297316433?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
@chenchen8351
@chenchen8351 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Thank you so much!
@imatellya2609
@imatellya2609 2 жыл бұрын
Does this battery have the stupid diagnosis function? On the newer batteries, by holding in the power indicator button for 10 seconds, it'll glow red if there's a fault/damage.
@dgordon2991
@dgordon2991 4 ай бұрын
good job, ain't it great when you can make broken things work again! Is advice about the danger of accidentally shorting these batteries a good idea?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 ай бұрын
It is a great feeling indeed. I am not sure if you are referring to shorting the packs together like when people boost packs (Not accidential though) or the cells themselves individually shorted together. Either way, I have a video called "Lithium Battery FAQ#1" that I have pointed to many times to help with frequently asked questions and I also have many videos mentioning how it's not a good idea to short packs to each other also. Thanks for your kind comment!
@shanestratford4466
@shanestratford4466 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos thank you. I have just received a 10.0Ah battery and the indicator is flashing red. I have tried charging on all 4 of my rapid chargers and none of them start charging. The indicator on the chargers show the battery is full. I have contacted ego and they are sending a replacement and said for me to dispose of the bad one. Any ideas on what could be the problem and any solutions to fix?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
I have not had a 10Ah on my bench yet to say much really. I would test voltages on output terminals and each cell group and see if you find anything off there, sounds more like a BMS issue though really. Best of luck to ya!
@shanestratford4466
@shanestratford4466 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud. That was my thoughts.
@swingmanic
@swingmanic 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 amp battery seems to have been discontinued here in Australia. I wonder if they have a reliability issue? I've been looking at one as a replacement for my 2.5 amp unit.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I have not heard of any issues on that level.
@wheelstandr
@wheelstandr Жыл бұрын
If you were going to recommend a brand to buy base on the battery quality, what brand would you recommend for yard tools? We have a Ryobi 40 volt weed eater. It came with a 2.5 and has worked well, but seeing bad reviews on the batteries with the same tools post pandemic.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely go with EGO. I really haven't had many issues with the batteries. Really only one of my batteries failed that I bought new. The warranty replaced that one and EGO told me to keep the old one and recycle it. I ended up learning how to fix it and it started some videos on these and then I bought some broken ones (and some were sent in for us to look at on the bench just to help the channel and help us learn). So after much learning and working on the EGO I have really appreciated the build quality in these and I really like all my EGO tools. I have blowers, string trimmers , hedge trimmers, edgers, push mowers, pole saw and even chainsaws. I enjoy all the power of the tools and the batteries are truly leaps ahead of Ryobi 40V and Kobalt packs from my experience. I think Green works platform may be the only one really close to EGO at this point. I don't have any myself to say for certain. All high density packs are going to give issues eventually, I typically keep the size of mine 5AH and below. 5AH is my go to battery size. It's large enough to last even in the blowers, but still not terribly heavy. The 7.5AH and above are not only super heavy they have so much more potential for failure with even more added cells in the pack. The 2.5AH has 14 cells in series (14S). The 5.0AH has 28 cells and the 7.5AH has 42 cells. It's a 3P so 3 sets of the 14S cells in parallel. Keep in mind the best way to buy batteries is in the tool combos. So it's much better to buy most tools you want with the battery included since you will usually want more batteries over time. The tool only price can look attractive from these big companies, but it's a much better deal in the long run to get the pack included Usually. Hope you found this helpful and best of luck with what even you buy!
@jamesboxold9671
@jamesboxold9671 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, question for you my 7.5 was not charging correct and when it was full I would only get about 5 minutes from my backpack blower. I would have to pull it off the charger because it would just stop charging, put it back on and started charging again, what would cause this issue and do you think its fixable and where wouldni start. Ego did send a brand new battery because it was stil underwarranty and didn't ask for the old one back
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to say without testing. Could be one or more cell groups losing capacity and dropping off in voltage before the others. Best way to test is when the pack is pulled low and cuts out take the pack apart then and test with DMM across all cells to see if you can find the bad cells. Could be a BMS issue but I would start with testing cells. If you feel like you can replace them yourself you could get some capacity back in the back sometimes. Of course sometimes it's a problem with many cells and it's not helpful to simply replace a few. Best of luck to ya!
@billsmith3250
@billsmith3250 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed 11
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty contacts on the battery from gobs of factory grease collecting dirt, allowing a poor contact. Clean the charger terminals and your equipment terminals, as the grease and dirt transfer there and your battery terminals. Someone at EGO is grease happy. I had the same problem.
@dogsamust3593
@dogsamust3593 5 ай бұрын
I have the exact same battery and I have 4 acres on my 21 inch ego push mower has been amazing but after about two years I’m running it hard. The battery started having trouble charging and then when it was show it was fully charged I’d put it in the mower and could run maybe 10 minutes and then it was giving me the flashing red. And I love the video except I’m new to taking these batteries apart. My dad showed me how to do a lot but one thing I don’t know is what to set the meter on when testing the battery. so I went to test mine. I’m thinking it’s on the right setting but it’s sparked pretty good when I unscrewed that top piece for the fuses. There was a piece of grass dry dead grass that was in there. Please let me know what setting the meter should be onwhen testing different things on the battery. And since it’s parked like that, do you think that I fried it?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 5 ай бұрын
I am not sure exactly what you mean by "unscrewed the top piece for the fuse"? If you are talking about taking the connector block off the fuse then where did it spark? What arced to what? I always have my meter on Volts DC while testing the battery voltage. That is typically indicated with a V followed by a solid line with a dashed line parallel with it. Some meters may simply show it as VDC. You will see my meter in that mode testing voltage in many videos.
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2.5 ah battery off of Ebay. The green light does not come on when I press the button. and when I try to charge it the charger just pulses like it is trying to charge starting then stopping over and over. What do you suspect I should look for when I take it apart to troubleshoot? If i do have to replace some cells where do you recommend I buy them?I assume they are 18650's 2.5AH. I have seen you replace cells in packs before but did not notice you ever stating what kind of cells these are or where to get a replacement.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is common when the pack has depleted to a very low voltage level. So the charger is trying to output, pulse or boost up the pack it seems, but of course if not bumped up after a brief try it will shut down and give a pack error. I have a video that shows using a Drok converter, I carefully boosted the pack to at least see if I had one or sometimes more than one cell causing the issue. You can also very carefully go across each individual cell with a power supply set at like 4.0v and current limited to 1.0A and see if the cells one by one will rise up make sure you current limited always! If the pack is very low, it is possible most of the cells have pulled too low to fully recover. Usually when the packs pulls down like this it is because the Q12 is shorted on the BMS as mentioned in the previous repair video. Best of luck, I love seeing things come to life that would normally be thrown out or at best recycled!
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 4 жыл бұрын
I did mention that my cells came from buying several bad packs over a year or two period and some had bad BMS and I repaired and some had one or more bad cells, so I went through and tested each cell very well charge and discharge cycle and some of the good cells are my exact match spare cells.So I had spare cells and spare battery housing and spare BMS by parting out one! Since then several viewers have mentioned the brand and type of cells in the comments. Sanyo UR18650NSX is one mentioned by (Jonathan Ridder). (Ipissed)mentioned his are Samsung INR 18650.
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed Thank you for the reply and advice.
@spoilersdeployed
@spoilersdeployed 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve got a 10ah battery with BMS (fuel gauge) on my Z6 mower. It seems to be completely non-responsive and yet it only has about 8 charge cycles on the battery so it’s brand new. I’ve never discharged it below 30%. Anyways, do you know of anywhere I could send this battery to be repaired/refurbished or send it as a “core” and get 2 smaller 5ah batteries in lieu of it?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know of anywhere. Is it still under warranty so EGO will send replacement or have you already done that. If you already have a replacement and just want that one swapped out I have 2 5ah packs I would send, but they are both the older 2nd gen packs. The ones with the one LED for the charge indicator?
@waynemackenzie9372
@waynemackenzie9372 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Do you know where to purchase a replacement BMS for EGO 56 Volt 5Ah battery pack?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 8 ай бұрын
I don't. I have tried to get some suppliers and was even going to look into getting some custom made. Several viewers mentioned they were working on it already and I don't want to get so many out there that they can't sell and someone gets stuck with them and the costs of buying a bulk order of them. I am waiting to see if others come through. One viewer has even shared the file on my FB group of the board connection points. It's a very handy layout. He's got a really good start on it. Thanks for your kind comment!
@thebucketmouse
@thebucketmouse 3 жыл бұрын
I've got an ego 5.0 battery that will not charge, and the BMS light does not turn on when you press the button. However I do get 54v across the battery terminals. Q12 does not test as shorted. Any suggestion or thoughts where to look next?
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
I would start looking around the DC-DC converter area. Which Q12 is in as well. The caps around the transformer, I think it's usually around 10V on the caps when the button is pressed and the bms wakes up. I have some videos on the 4ah and 5ah packs and I mention in one of those a little bit on this part of the circuit. Never had alot of issues with it but sometime the issues is there . From time to time I have seen bad transformer and the Q12 is still bad even though it usually fails shorted, I think occasionally it opens up.
@giggleherz
@giggleherz 3 жыл бұрын
You got a great deal for 55$, here in Canada that 55$ turns into 95$ plus tx. A new 5 amp EGO battery would be around 300 to 400.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha, it is hard to find a deal too. I have been able to fix about 6 this way and I am happy to have all my packs at a really good price. I did buy one pack that had several bad cells and I just used it as a donor cells for other packs since half of them charged up and discharged tested fine. The best deal I had was found one in the Home Depot recycle bin and ask the manager if I could have it for the cells and he said, sure, I don't care! And it was a simple fix. I don't know if Lowes will do that or not. I would not be scared to ask anywhere that was a convenient recycle bin though!
@giggleherz
@giggleherz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThriftyToolShed I will remember the tip about the recycle places to look for a few new cells.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately since the pandemic I have not had near the luck finding these in recycle bins...
@Whereswalter1
@Whereswalter1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Really liked your video. I have a 7.5 Amp hour ego battery. Dead as a door Nile. Was wondering if you would be interested in fixing it for me. What would you charge? Very interested in having it working again.
@ThriftyToolShed
@ThriftyToolShed 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your kind comment! I wish I had time, I do get asked this often. I do not have a repair service at this time. I work full time+ in an Industrial job and try to have time to edit videos to post. I try to help by posting what I have learned and sharing that best I can. Best of luck to you with yours!
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