Elden Ring Is Not A Ten Out Of Ten

Elden Ring Is Not A Ten Out Of Ten
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INTRO - 00:00
CHAPTER I - 04:07
CHAPTER II - 11:50
CHAPTER III - 18:04
CHAPTER IV - 21:51
CHAPTER V - 36:56
CHAPTER VI - 43:04
CHAPTER VII - 47:39
CHAPTER VIII - 51:05
CHAPTER IX - 55:02

[@FiniteSteakMachine]

I had a really consistently fantastic experience running the game on Linux. It took a little setup based on instructions from Reddit, but it's run just about perfectly since then. Valve's Proton works around some of the issues of the PC port, like compiling shaders in advance instead of on the fly. Solid 60FPS. I also backed up my save file in Git because that's so easy and efficient when you're already on Linux. Debian 11 Ryzen 9 5950X RTX 3080 w/ driver 510.60 Proton Experimental Game Mode wrapper smooths out camera rotation. It's all free so it's worth a try. The couple of hours of setup are worth it for 100h+ of gameplay.

[@StratEdgyProductions]

I've pinned this comment because it is relevant. I might have to give this a try on a separate partition. I've actually been wanting to do this since vulcan.

[@BlitzIn4]

@@StratEdgyProductions kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2qyoWqOlpqYgdU -- he was recording a video on Linux using X11 and it killed his frames, then switched to Wayland on Linux and that fixed that issue for him. overall his frametime is smoother and he's getting more fps, using the recommended GPU and a CPU that's 10-20% faster than recommended: Radeon™ RX Vega 56 and a 5600X with 32GB of RAM.

[@ahobbyist9520]

@@StratEdgyProductions it seems that your the only reviewer that’s been fucked this hard by the game. You deserve an award

[@sonicthehedgehog885]

This is the kind of work people expect to do to get 20 year old games working on a PC not a game that came out this year

[@freemaysin5088]

@@StratEdgyProductions vulkan*

[@TheSpazzDragon]

The stability and performance issues are strange. It almost feels like randomly half the people who bought the game got a different version. I personally experienced zero issues with performance, while my room mate, playing on a more powerful PC than mine, had a TON of issues. So I am left wondering how the game somehow runs smoother with a solid 60fps on an objectively weaker machine.

[@naturequeen2597]

Same thing. Works perfectly on my decent budget computer build, but I know people with more powerful PC's who can't even start the game. It's so weird. Hopefully fixed soon.

[@naturequeen2597]

I've heard it's to do with what cpu you have, but don't quote me on that, I'm not that educated in computers, or this particular issue.

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

It's double layered. EAC is worthless garbage and other games with DX12 support and EAC have similar problems, like Hell Let Loose. DX12 itself also just isn't all that great. It causes a lot of problems in games I play.

[@cc1912]

Dont forget about multithreading and ensuring processors are being utilized. Sometimes dynamic overclocking can cause spikes (Intel chipsets), or a game config file attribute is defined at too low a number relative to the total available processor units. Start with your BIOS 👍

[@SeruraRenge11]

This. It runs fine on my pc but I keep hearing problems from people.

[@thesirenfox3017]

As someone who miraculously had a near perfect experience on pc it breaks my heart seeing so many people experience with this game go so poorly.

[@naturequeen2597]

Same, my experience has been good, only got stutters in the sewers mostly, but it really sucks that others can't enjoy it. I've even heard of PCs better then mine having the problem, so it's a weird one. Hopefully fixed soon.

[@IchitheLover]

Same. I had one CTD and 2 or 3 moments of lag in about 45 hours so far on a 3 year old PC. I don't doubt for a second that others have had trouble, but it's absolutely one of the best games ever made for those of us who don't have those troubles.

[@samw9906]

Same i understand that from my end i have 5900x and a 3060 (both manage to buy at MSRP luckily) and i run into minor hitching and by minor hitching i mean there are rare case where it dumps from steady 59/60 FPS to 44 and i feel bad, i also wonder if people are trying to play this with max setting always on or something

[@adoggred]

Had the stutters until the patch and 2 crashes in over 101 hours. Thats the one thing I hate about pc, some people the game might run near perfect but others the damn thing might not even run.

[@nickblack2006]

Pc specs ?

[@Kwat224son]

I think journalists are afraid to say they don’t like from soft games because they know people will just say it’s because they suck at them.

[@StratEdgyProductions]

If my comment section is any indication, they'd be right.

[@Kwat224son]

@@StratEdgyProductions yea exactly lol

[@yog-sherkoth1782]

Usually when the claim is made it's supported by many statements proving they are bad at the game. I've seen so many critiques of the game where the main arguments against the game being spectacular and worth it's current ratings is that the player didn't take time to actually learn how to play or the player was too stubborn to adapt and got salty the game was too hard for their original play style.

[@redveinborneo4673]

True. I'm a huge FromSoft fan but the fan base at large is incapable of admitting that Miyazaki is capable of making poor design choices. Every bug is a feature. Every frame rate stutter adds to the "charm". Every re-use has lore to justify its inclusion. In other words, yeah, it's always YOUR fault.

[@alphabroncotwozero392]

@@yog-sherkoth1782 you can apply the same monkey brain group think to Tarkov

[@StratEdgyProductions]

In light of Bloody Slash being nerfed. I am now using seppuku... On myself.

[@briankeys5941]

Only morons buy games day one... haave u ever heard of Bethesda, Rockstar, CD PROJEKT RED, and on and on. u wait 6 months like we have since modding exists. and i hear u say but i paid STOP... wtf are u paying for a game in 2022. pirate, buy when, if finished. this goes back too Oblivion. shit, even Crysis, EVEN QUAKE

[@kelownatechkid]

@@briankeys5941 To be fair, in his case it's his job basically.

[@RyuKaguya]

turns out it may actually do more damage in the long run

[@DeadlySinner97]

did it though? yesterday my 24 blood scimitar was doing 940, today it's doing over 1200 with blood slash

[@Partiotofgaming]

@@DeadlySinner97mmmkiknmmml Nmmmmk

[@gustavo555tani]

Holy shit man, you got hit with the bug stick in a whole another level, I never got invisible enemies or stutters of this level and frequency. The most obvious bugs I got were with horse jumps leaving me suspended in the air and unable to move.

[@nicholasmanig7190]

I never had any of this shit happen to me

[@slayde7740]

lol, im running this just barely at/below min specs on a 5 year old laptop (i7 7700hq, 12Gb ram, 4Gb GTX 1050, game on external ssd, somehow runs smooth most of the time), after first patch most invisible enemies were visible (unless there were many enemies or if it was raining XD), also the only invisible enemies are smaller mobs such as animals and soldiers for me so making it 120+ hrs in ive somehow managed to play through it. the reason is most likely having steady frames the vast majority of the time.

[@sangheilicommander1056]

on my old laptop i had all these issues x10, but my new pc finally arrived and its a moster (granted patches came through before it came that did help with the laptop) but now i have no issues, you honestly need allot of memory for this game. i made sure my new pc had 32gb (16 sticks) so i can add more in the future.

[@masondavis4554]

Fuckin lost 16,000 runes to this at a low level, really pissed me off.

[@joshuahopping7013]

@@nicholasmanig7190 same not one of these things on PS5, truly sucks for people that have… btw this game makes you look HARD to find all things, even then you will miss things and have to try finding them in NG+ esp quest lines and items from them Amazing!!!

[@SaintGekko]

Damn dude. I had frame drops in several places, but nothing as bad as this. That really sucks. Hope future patches fix this for you cause it's a great game otherwise.

[@rawallon]

Thank you for the blessing Saint Gekko

[@ArkhanNightman]

Yeah, I have never had the invisible horse or enemies on PC.

[@chrispeng5502]

Oh there will be a 'fix', it is called Elden Ring: Remastered. You will get a 50% discount.

[@Ulubai]

I had disappearing enemies a few days after release but that's been patched out for me

[@wynngwynn]

low key looks like dog shit though

[@naikyou]

Oh boy, so many people trying their hand at revisionist history and denying that many users had massive issues, entirely based on their own personal experience, usually spiced up with a "maybe your pc is just too shit". It's the same dumb circlejerk as on Steam where they tried harassing and flaming lots of the reviewers during the mixed review phase into deleting their negative ratings. One of the worst fan bases around.

[@RyuKaguya]

ehhh that goes both ways.

[@naikyou]

@@RyuKaguya Oh yeah, the "every game From Soft makes is overhyped trash" crowd is bad as well. It's just that they aren't nearly as prevalent. I barely see them on positive reviews while the other...well, just scroll around this comment section or look for the negative day 1-3 reviews with 100+ comments mentioning technical issues on Steam.

[@RuneKatashima]

It just seems to affect different systems differently and I don't know what causes it. I haven't had it too bad, happened a few times. But I have a friend where it's like 80% of his gameplay. We haven't been able to find a solution. It sucks for my friend and for this guy, and it does when it happens to me, but it's not the majority situation.

[@serlistogiette4168]

@@RuneKatashima I just have odd issues with my pc in general. Sometimes games just shutoff my computer, which is the biggest one. Like it doesn't even crash, it just fully shuts off and idk what the cause or problem is. Sometimes it runs these games fine. Some games are more likely to do it than others. It's fucking weird.

[@recreant359]

I Mean if you planned to play with less then a 3080 it is your pc lol

[@_Paul_N]

“I know that I’ve fought the Misbegotten Warrior 6 times, 50 tree sentinel’s, 10 Night Chivalry’s, 20 Deathbird’s, Godskin Apostle 10 times, Godskin Noble 15 times, Godskin Duo 3 times, 20 different dragons that look the exact same, 40 crucible knights, 7 assassins, 3 Red Wolves of Radagon, 5 Black Blade Kindred’s, etc but this game is a masterpiece!!!!!” -Your typical FromSoft diehard 😂

[@michaelchiello5786]

Right! I’m sorry but I have no interest in fighting the same boss 6 or 7 or more times. Just lane and miserable at that point. I thought when I got to the crumbling farum Azula and fought the godskin duo that it had to be the last time. Then I had to fight again in a cave, I believe spiritcaller, and I just couldn’t do it again. I was just turned off at that point. Just lazy developing.

[@LessDevoid]

I tapped out after hitting the Mountaintops of the Giants. I made it that far before getting dropped on by another Deathbird. I just couldn't keep on going after that. Which was a shame because they just started introducing a couple new enemies. I thought that the constant 100% copy+pasted enemies was over with but, oh boy, was I wrong!

[@facundovera3227]

Actually Tree Sentinel is three times.

[@ProtoManiac2283]

IT'S AN 11/10 BABY LESS GOOOOOO!!!

[@hinamiravenroot7162]

I was about to type that

[@sukamadik5983]

Yes to all of it

[@devinrodriguez3530]

YES SIRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@miceatah9359]

7 max

[@Foxentails]

Dark souls is the best

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

I think you had some fair points, I've played on PS5 and honestly experienced no issues whatsoever outside the occasional pop in when loading into new areas, but I know some people who did run into issues with frame rate or the occasional crash. I think reviewers and consumers need to reevaluate what 10 of 10 should be. And also accept that a 9 or 8 doesn't make a game automatically bad, it's just a rating system. I love games that scores of 4 and 5s, doesn't break my enjoyment of the game because it's rated so low.

[@rawallon]

4/5 games are bad because 1-10 rating isn't linear, but rather its meant to copy the way they were graded in school

[@aw2584]

Same on Xbox series S (the cheaper one). This is why I have a PC for mostly strategic games and a console for everything else. Most games nowadays are made with consoles in mind and then ported to PC so you're getting a second hand experience most of the time and everytime I hear about a game having performance issues or bugs and so on I'm like... what issues? And most of the time it's PC version that's busted.

[@bevanmcnicholl2525]

The pop in on Ps5 is 100% accepable. Have you seen the pop in for Forbidden West? Its the worst I've ever seen ...

[@arenkai]

I remember when Jim Sterling gave Breath of the Wild a 7 and got death threats and attacks from Nintendo fans. Good times.

[@solid_scott4642]

Same I just hit 105 hours on ps5 and have had absolutely zero issues besides occasional pop in. It's been a solid experience so far and I'm STILL. NOT. DONE.

[@thebigstinky6438]

WOWEEEEE!! A review that's fair and isn't ignoring the multiple flaws of a perceived "masterpiece" yet praises what it does well?? IMPOSSIBLE. HERESY. BLASPHEMY.

[@thebigstinky6438]

@Strat-Edgy Productions But seriously though, your thoughts were honest and weren't trying to be sensational. Great work on the review and video!!

[@joshuahopping7013]

Except I have experiences none of these things on PS5.. 🤷🏻‍♂️ it truly is epic and amazing, SO much to do and find , easily can put in 500+ hours it is just wow as you figure it out and explore everything!

[@pugsley201]

“Masterpiece” doesn’t mean it doesn’t have flaws. There will never be a perfect game, ever. Or a perfect movie, a perfect painting, etc. That is not what is meant by “masterpiece” or “10/10.” 10/10 reviews still note flaws of the game. It’s about being an outstanding piece of work, it’s not about perfection.

[@joshuahopping7013]

@@pugsley201 this game has ran and is as near perfect as perfect can be for a game for me.

[@bjornolfactory9363]

@@pugsley201 But that's the issue my dude. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE GAME'S FLAWS! Most of the reviews are 10/10. Most youtuber's either just ignore many of these glaring flaws or just refuse to even review the game. This game has some serious issues that pretty much no one on youtube or any reviewers are discussing. Not to mention that Fromsoft has already had to release multiple huge patches to the game because of how broken most of the weapons are. And on top of that they released the game with basically half of the NPCs having unfinished quest lines. That's bullshit and unacceptable.

[@jefbord]

"They want Fromsoft inside them so they could finally be called Fromhard" I needed a minute or two to recover from this xD

[@Sirfinchyyy]

From soft to hard?😂

[@RazzleTheRed1]

That is weird, I've only had one enemy turn invisible and it was a player summon when I was invading. I have had a few crashes, but nothing that reverts progress. I've also had some stuttering but no crazy issues during normal gameplay that's weird as hell

[@Blinkster93]

I had multiple enemies (including a gaint) go invisible. It was strange, only happened to me for the first time, two days ago.

[@AspiringDevil]

Alot of these are unique to PC port it seems.

[@RazzleTheRed1]

@@AspiringDevil that's why it's so strange though I am also on pc, don't get me wrong I'm still having some of the issues, but not nearly to the same extent

[@AspiringDevil]

@@RazzleTheRed1 it's weird and it could be the result of so many little different things on pc. Are you playing on low or minimal settings? Alot of people in the subreddit seem to find that reduces the issues to pretty much nothing but occasional framedrops.

[@-obviatethetruth-474]

@@AspiringDevil I turn off a lot of effects, like motion blur, and foliage and other bloat I dont really care about. And past the occasional frame drop it is buttery smooth. The biggest issues I run into happen in the open world such as fighting the frame sentinel, and once again, rare frame drops (once per 3 or 5 hours). Oh and it hard crashes for me sometimes, mostly when going into new areas through loading screens.

[@Pharis111]

From what people have found out, it is the anti cheat causing a lot of the issues. I wonder if game reviewers scored it so high due to having copies without the anticheat activated and thus didn't have the aforementioned performance issues .

[@rocketbilly]

I can confirm this somewhat, though always grain of salt as its merely only my experience. Out of curiosity, I disabled EAC to test if it ran better, as i kept getting performance issues on one of the very last bosses that impacted playability. It's also piss easy to disable, though this also does disable online play. I found it even booted better, no hanging on pre-Bamco logos whatsoever. I also found that EAC is whats causing it to be difficult to close, as it has to close its own .local version of the games .exe. With it off, it doesn't hang on loading, less stuttering to some extent. I can't attest to any crashes, because in my 100 hours in the game I've gotten two, while other people I know have gotten 10+ in their first 20. Pretty much anecdotal I know, but I'm going to go through with it disabled on NG+1, see if I have the same issues in certain areas with it turned off.

[@therealdoc]

A solution to the anticheat: Literally copy/paste eldenring.exe and rename it to start_protected_game.exe I have had ZERO performance issues, start to finish, once I disabled the anticheat.

[@Coach_Ren]

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. I pretty much disabled EAC asap so I could play in ultrawide. Still had a ton of stuttering all throughout the open world until 1.02, even when not playing with the fix enabled Never saw bugged invisible enemies though LOL

[@Jinkypigs]

If so, then it explain my experience. Mind you it is still not as optimised as it should be. But I don't get as much stutter as others experience. I play offline and without the anti cheat, as I hate invasion and I do not like these invasive programs such as anti cheat. But it seems that decisive actually makes the game better for me

[@conniescurse7325]

This is a myth i'm pretty sure, people who have bypassed the anticheat reported it made no difference in performance.

[@gordonwong2260]

Getting games to work properly is always such a pain. Glade that you showed us your experience

[@ThatKid7718]

I got about 70 hours now and I must be hella lucky not seein any of these awful glitches. It crashes constantly but I've never lost more than 10 seconds of progress. That invisibility bug is aids

[@Dresdenstl]

I must be a leprechaun because I have gotten 0 bugs at all. I wonder how many people with stutter issues have the game installed on a hard drive instead of an SSD.

[@granatengeorg]

Only got the invisibility thing today, already got 40 hours or so in. Funnily enough, for me stability and fps are going down with each update. Day one, and a few days after that, i really had a perfect experience, no stutter, no anything. Even while my friends in coop had stutter all the time.

[@ThatKid7718]

I updated my drivers and that ended helping a lot

[@DebugOctopus]

Same. Works on my machine.

[@apt7prod]

Nah its just the handful of ppl who are experiencing this are super loud about it

[@Are_you_eyeballing_me]

"Elden Ring Is Not A Ten Out Of Ten" Sir, I'm reporting you to the gaming police. I'll see you in the court of Reddit.

[@abnormalitiesinreality6649]

cringe af

[@ymiph6802]

take a shower

[@Strider119119]

wholesome 100

[@TheVioletBunny]

Here comes the fromtard fanboys

[@tommyvercetti9434]

Bro, you clearly don't understand From Software and Master Miyazaki.san's vision. The fps drops and invisible enemies are explained in the Elden Maiden Diaper item that you find behind an illusory wall in the second optional area you get after doing the missable quest of Oreganon the Crestfallen Devourer of Phalluses. Honestly it is kinda *_cringe_* you didn't know that, it's obvious you haven't play the game enough.

[@coldestroom655]

GREAT video, very logical & funny. Half of the what was said was almost surreal because I've had 90% of the same logic floating in my mind, but never really put all the pieces together. Keep it up love the vids.

[@whitewampa2910]

I’ve got the game on PC, I’ve had a few frame drops here and there and that’s it. Literally no issues whatsoever. No crashes, no invisble entities, it’s been a smooth ride for me. Sad to hear other people have had the game be broken for them.

[@Cabenoxx]

Same... I had some weird frame drops coming out of the first area to the Tree Sentinel, and a couple of other places in the game, but it was very minor. Seemed almost completely fixed just by lowering a few settings. 1080ti/6700k here, nothing crazy.

[@pt8306]

If you want to see real cringe, go on the Steam Forums and you'll see people denying reality and pretending all the peolpe having issues are somehow lying or are "anti fromsoft shills" etc.

[@alderstifen7738]

Same, the only other issue I've had with the PC version is boss AI's breaking if they are not humanoid, though I'm not sure if that's a PC related issue, probably more just generally to do with the game.

[@TheDigitalWatcher]

This game has the most inconsistent performance from player to player I've ever seen. I run 60fps 1440p just fine on a 5700xt. The first few days I had some pretty bad lag spikes, but after a patch those happen maybe once per play session, and only in an openworld area. The game has crashed on me maybe twice, and I alt tab in and out a lot. For reference, I'm about 40 hours in, and just beat Rennala.

[@daftmell5237]

I'm playing at 1440p FPS unlocked on a 165hz 21:9, and it hasn't crashed on me a single time, and my pc just has a 5 year old 1080ti.

[@Salacious_T]

I have a basic ps4, and it ran fine.

[@muhammadhidayat5678]

Never crash after patch with rx580

[@cletokings4302]

Either that or we have a lot of cry babies.

[@thecthuloser876]

The truth is FromSoft games always behaved oddly when you had more than the recommended specs. See: The PC version of the original game breaking if you uncapped frame rate beyond 30. They are games that tend to be so finely tuned for the specs of consoles, they don't work when you have more.

[@StratEdgyProductions]

I know you didn't watch the video, but in case you did, here's one of my predictions coming true. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fV7El6tjn5eDitU 10 out of 10

[@Ma1q444]

Why yo comments full of casuals

[@CloppingIsMyThing]

So your arguement is the game isn't 10 out of 10 because hackers exist? I mean I get the complaints about the performance issues. But hackers really?

[@kacperwalkowiak2564]

@@CloppingIsMyThing Yes hackers are not the problem, shitty code that allows the game to be hacked is

[@Ma1q444]

@@CloppingIsMyThing lmao your really complaining because he isn’t giving the game 10/10 stop crying

[@StratEdgyProductions]

@@kacperwalkowiak2564 Hey, someone watched the video. I was starting to lose faith. I never realized what nasty little goblins the fromsoft fanbase was.

[@Snoogen11]

10:50 EXACTLY, this is why "day 1 patching" has become a normative behaviour now. When people see trailers, and find bugs it's always: "eh, they'll fix that later". My response is... WHY? Once you've given them your money, they've already forgotten you. Companies are not your friends. To clarify, this is from someone who actually likes cyberpunk. Yes they've tried to fix the mess they made, but make no mistake... they are not doing that for our benefit, they are doing it to salvage their reputation, and why are they trying to salvage their reputation? Because having a good reputation allows them to make more money. Am I happy they are fixing it? Sure. Does that mean I'll trust them when it comes to future releases? FUCK NO.

[@GoodVolition]

I've seen a huge disparity. I have some friends saying it runs bug free on PC, and others claiming it's bugged beyond being usable. Everyone I know who has it on a console has been alright. It's true optimization can be expensive and hard to fix, but if the problems are caused by a bug or a misconfiguration then it may not be so bad. I hope it'll work out.

[@themanicman8458]

I'm on the Xbox One and I'm having a very severe input lag issue I still love the game mind you but it's kind of a bummer this is my first from soft game

[@manuxx3543]

I'm guessing the cracked version will run just fine on pc then, it's fallen order again x)

[@lolicongang.4974]

Well that not a game problem that's a port problem cause for me the game actually runs very much fine. I mean I fucked up and tried to summon my horse knowing I was in a spot that looked like it would bug out the horse and got stuck mid air and SHHHHH I teleported to the grace site 5 feet away from me.

[@lawmanlawman2210]

@@themanicman8458 Note, I may be sounding pretentious as I don't know your circumstances, but I have seen people new to these types of games complaining about input lag but in fact was just the delay every movement has in Fromsoft games. Every single action in Fromsoft games, from rolling to running to attacking to drinking, has an input lag of varying length and time. It's something they do to force you to time your actions correctly, but it shouldn't be more than like, half a second for anything. Also, make sure you're not fat-rolling (VERY IMPORTANT ->). If you go into your menu and look at your total equip weight, underneath it you should see either light load, medium load, or heavy load. Since it's your first Fromsoft game, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know this, but that load influences how fast you roll, and with that how many invincibility frames you get per roll. Light and medium rolls differ mainly in distance covered aren't that different in terms of i-frames, so doing either is fine, but if you have a heavy load, you are fat-rolling. Fat-rolling is much slower, covers much less distance, and has noticeably less i-frames than any other roll, so you absolutely never want to be doing that in any Fromsoft game, as you are only making it harder on yourself. If you already knew all this, then I just wasted yours and my time, as you probably just need a knew controller. Hope this helped!

[@zeening]

because people like to bitch for the sake of bitching, people nowadays think fps dropping to 30 is a slideshow and crashing once or twice in like 300 hours is an unplayable mess, it's literally a joke.

[@torrent6181]

I tried Elden Ring on my budget $600 PC (GTX 1060 6gb) and had none of the performance problems you described. I lowered texture and shadow quality to low and turned off motion blur, but otherwise I’m playing on the high preset. Not sure why some people are having so many issues, but hopefully it is resolved swiftly.

[@darkshaman98]

To be fair considering the amount of garbage that's been coming out the last few years it would be considered a master piece in comparison,I think people are overly hyped as they're so fed up with the state gaming is in so something like this is a breath of fresh air

[@Silveredge99]

Just watching this vid months later and they have made some positive decisions. Mainly what they did in 1.07 that you mentioned specifically was have items/weapons have PvP specific stats, so you can have some fun baked-in cheese in the PvE but maintain fair fights in PvP.

[@MrTmm97]

As far as invasions...to do that NPC's questline you first run into as soon as you exit the tutorial area. You have to use 3 of the 5 invasions to progress. Couldn't get it to work... so I went to a dungeon at a summoning pool and it worked immediately. I've also summoned cooperators for help and fun in random dungeons probably 10 or so times and wasn't invaded during any of those. Just wanted to add that incase it helps or interests anyone.

[@Fottrel]

this is fascinating, great video! my pc falls just shy of the minimum (mostly w/r/t cpu, I'm running a sandy bridge i5) and while the game ate shit for the first week of launch, I never saw the disappearing enemies. my issues (in addition to horrific performance) were primarily: 1. horse summon fails and I have to preform the action multiple times to actually get on 2. enemies failing to load for 5-30 seconds after entering an area (misbegotten warrior and crucible knight made me scream because the warrior would not load for 10+ seconds and the knight's timer to enter the fight would tick down regardless) 3. sometimes very long, sometimes infinite load times on death/fast travel most of these problems don't happen anymore or at least much less frequently though so hopefully all our future playthroughs will be better. however I also haven't had as much time to play for the past two weeks since I've been building a full web application capstone on a 4 person team where the other 3 people struggle to write basic Java. one guy can't distinguish between html and javascript and it's driving me insane, so i've been too busy/stressed to devote as much of my free time to elder ringer as i would like.

[@spiderjerusalem100]

I love Dark Souls 1-3, they are some of my favourite games of all time and i did like Elden Ring but i don't think it's as good as Dark Souls. It looks incredible and the world is so detailed but there was no need for it to be open world. Having an open world added nothing worthwhile to the formula apart from making you have no frigging idea where to go half the time. Also the game is hard for the sake of being hard. Look at the last boss which is actually 2 bosses which you have to beat in a row without a bonfire in between. So you have to master beating the first boss before even attempting to practice the next one. I summoned someone and let them beat the last boss for me and i have no regrets.

[@MRxLOKI]

I've played so many games the open world in Elden Ring just doesn't do it for me... yeah, its grand and fantastical been there done that DS1 is more impressive to me... I'll never forget discovering the elevator in the bell church takes you back down to firelink shrine I swear people who praise Elden Rings overworld have never played other games... not having shit like waypoints or checklist doesn't make it "revolutionary"

[@tiagox3275]

Weirdly enough, my PC barely meets the minimum requirements, but ran the game pretty smoothly as far as stuttering is concerned. My only issue were the frequent crashes and getting disconnected from the server for no reason. Also had no invisible enemies and hardly any other bug/glitch.

[@skiddzie9291]

I have an rx570 and can run it at 60fps in almost every area except for the biggest sections of the overworld. It supposedly should run horribly

[@DailyCorvid]

Crashes indicates a CPU overheat but for a tiny fraction of a second. As does disconnection from server really, though that's less obvious than the crashing. So when the overheat is that minor, it doesn't mean you need a new CPU - it means the game needs new code! It is bad code which causes that, as when your CPU overheats and dies from that - the motherboard actually powers of the entire system instantly. But you said crashing, which is just sofware failing not the actual power dying. It's the game that is broken not your PC fortunately!

[@tiagox3275]

@@DailyCorvid and the performance has been getting way smoother after each update. though now for some reason I can't alt+tab the game without it closing all the other windows I have opened. which means I can only check item locations and npc questline guides when not playing or on my phone lol at any rate, it's clear fromsoft is doing a good job of fixing their pc port, which is very appreciated.

[@Nzzertral]

Random server disconnect is the bane of my existence

[@virn333]

"My only issue was frequent crashes" That's a big deal imo

[@AirSnipers96]

I definitely have had stutter and frame drops but usually it’s not unplayable. The crashes have been annoying and the input delay has gotten me killed a bunch of times but I still think this is one of my favorite games of the last 10 years.

[@Not_So_Super_Man]

That's unfortunate man. I had some issues with the game when i first installed it. For me, the fix was to simply update my nvidia drivers, and it's been running like butter ever since. This is my first ever from soft game. In my opinion, hands down one of the best games I have ever purchaced. That being said, it does feel like everyone gets a different version of this game when it comes to the glitches and random crashes. Hopefully it gets fixed.

[@LoneGunman2179]

This is why i think a lot of people are getting frustrated, while you updated and got better performance I updated and now I get crashes every hour or so

[@grimsleeper5945]

The performance seems to be very inconsistent between PCs. I have a PC with a CPU that was slightly below the requirements on the steam page, but I could run the game at a fairly consistent 45-50 fps, albeit with some frame drops in certain areas and the occasional stuttering. However, my friend who has a much better PC than I do, found the game hard to play due to the frequent stuttering he experienced which caused him to drop the game after 15 hours or so. It's unfortunate because aside from the technical issues, Elden Ring is one of the best FromSoft games, only beaten by the first Dark Souls and Bloodborne in my opinion.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

Yeah, this has been my experience with the PC performance too: Mostly it's running sub 30 if there's something else than trees on the screen. The invisible enemies and horse is absolutely ridiculous to have in the release version... It seems to be suffering from a memory leak, as it seems the bugs and performance gets worse the longer you play.

[@arenkai]

Damn... And here I was thinking people were mad because none of the people I know got performance issues with vastly different rigs. I guess it's just random. When you buy the game a random value sets your game as buggy or not.

[@greggdogg]

@@arenkai it's not really random, some people are out here with 10 year old pc's blaming the game for poor performance

[@ecrab4181]

It is annoying trying to get people talking on the subreddit about this. I just get, "lol your pc must be bad or your just stirring up drama, I never had these problems, lol"

[@pt8306]

@@greggdogg Stop denying reality. Everyone is getting the stutters. I have a 3070 and I get stutters. Stop pretending the game is perfect and people are using unreasonably old hardware. The game is just borked.

[@pt8306]

@@ecrab4181 Yes, and this is why FROM will never actually fix their games. Why bother changing when people will praise you for serving up crap?

[@ACheekyOtter]

That's crazy. I wonder why every person experiences things like this with varying effects. I've been playing the game at max settings pretty much locked to 60fps, and I've only had 1 game crash, and that was really early on launch too. Pretty sure one of the recent updates to the game has completely solved all of the early stuttering too

[@naturequeen2597]

Ive also only had one crash and my game runs smoothly, except for the odd stutter. Although weirdly, today when playing in the sewer area, my game is stuttering quite a bit for some reason. Never had that happen before today

[@ProBrosification]

Yeah my computer can run it at 60 FPS, but sometimes it’ll dip to 40 for about 10 seconds and then go back to 60 even when I’m not moving. It’s really odd because the drops don’t seem to coincide with moving or looking at stuff like most other games. I’ve also crashed 4 or 5 times in my 30ish hrs of playtime. Only once did it happen during a boss but it was enough to leave me seething lol

[@arklados3596]

Yeah me too. It’s crazy seeing how much people are struggling. I don’t even have that powerful of a machine either.

[@castor9683]

I meet the recommended hardware specs on my PC and the game still runs like shit in many areas. On high settings frames vary from 20 to 60 fps and I have minor to major stuttering issues in many areas, even after the latest patch and doing every recommended troubleshooting. Something is definitely wrong on the technical/optimization side of the game.

[@ProBrosification]

@@castor9683 yeah since the comment I left a day ago I’ve had like 6 crashes - and the frame rate drops 30 FPS every time I go somewhere new -.-

[@newginslab6993]

Dodge>Roll>Attack>Die because your frame rate dipped to single digits GOTY

[@ZombieMarkTwain]

Really glad I picked this up on Console. Knowing that these games are meant to be played on a Controller made it seem the best choice. I'm really sorry you encountered all of these issues. I never had any problems on the Xbox series S. Glad to know that Developers are still shitting on PC ports.

[@warumauchimmer7396]

The weird thing is, I have non of these issues. The invisible horse happened only once but in an area where it wasn't supposed to be. The frame drops I have a warranted, playing Elden Ring watching twitch while running two other programs in the background.

[@Xrilliam762]

Lmfaoooo you guys ^^^^^ are so dumb XD you realize you can use literally any controller you want on PC right hahaha.... I play ER on Steam with a PS5 controller myself ;) sure the game has some updates to get max performance and fix random crashes, but the games been out for a month my dudes HAHAHA wtf do you expect XD

[@epicminecraftgamer1]

on pc i had really poor performance but the 1.03 and 1.04 patches have completely fixed all the stutters for me so id imagine its fixed for most people since my gpu is the minimum suggested gpu in steam and my cpu is like 5 years older than the one it suggested so unless people are not looking at the system requirements before they buy i think they ironed it out, could be very very wrong but atleast its fixed for me

[@darthmader057mmm6]

​@treeghettox i play this on an hp laptop bruh it runs good and I get the same challenge sometimes more so because I need two hands on the keyboard to switch sometimes. its better on pc to me because I'm used to pc. still number 1 💪

[@opgroundzero2.0]

@treeghettox People like you seriously don't know how bad the performance issue is. Keep talking about how we are graphics whores and only care about framerate not gameplay, when you guys praise dogshit games like TLoU 2. Stop thinking that caring about how a game runs well or means we don't care about how the gameplay is. If that was the case games like ULTRAKILL would never be so popular and I fucking doubt people on console would bat an eye about it. Verditct is play on whatever you want. PC Master Race is just a joke, if someone takes it seriously just ignore them. Stop thinking that everyone that plays on a platform is the same.

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

Finished it with two different characters and really enjoyed it but anyone who claims it's the perfect game or even the perfect Soulsborne is just in denial. Exploration is fun but a lot of POIs repeat themselves (expected for a game of it's scale) and it could use a bunch more polish especially when it comes to performance. I only had issues in apparent loading zones in the open world dropping frames and the second phase of an optional boss but still. From Soft was never known for it's good ports or performance and this doesn't change that. *EDIT:* But still didn't have other dropped frames in combat or bosses or the invisible enemies. (seems to be a driver issue) Never disconnected, had a single crash trying to connect to Co-Op. Found this to be the easiest game of the series (allowing for different approaches and exploration) and imo is the best one for newcomers. Straight up disagree with the min maxing claim, I know how to build from years of experience, still I went for a jack of all trades because I wanted to try out different things and didn't have much trouble overall, killing most bosses in 2-3 attempts with exception of 4 of them that took more. Like the previous games remember weapon level is king, your character levels not so much.

[@xXDarkxIdealsXx]

Best game ive ever played. Im not the one in denial here bro. The VAST majority of players arent having any issues with the game. Ive put in hundreds or thousands of hours per game in every souls series game starting with 2009 demons souls all the way to sekiro. None are as good as Elden Ring, not even close. Some of the bosses here are far more difficult, although yes if you overlevel your weapon by abusing the smithing stone mines or the one side boss that allows infinite 200 rune lvl 1 or 2 smithing stones to be bought etc.. it clearly isnt as hard. Theres well over twice as many spells amd miracles, not including ash of war. Far morw content and weapons etc.. Best fromsoft game ever amd best game ive played. No sich thing as perfect. Still 10/10 though end of story.

[@Kek393]

@@xXDarkxIdealsXx Brother I am sorry but Fromsoft completely dropped the ball with this one. The erdtree avatar is repeated 13 fucking times in the game. Tree sentinel is repeated in a similar manner but with each incarnation getting one thing that makes it "new". The game plays like a Dark Souls game when almost every single boss after the Capital is at best a Bloodborne boss and at worst a Sekiro boss. The game doesn't accomodate for half of the fucking choices you could make such as actually saving Melina by getting the Frenzied Flame and then abandoning it. The armors are quite possibly the worst designed armors in the game. The network test had Poise working as it did in DS1 which was very good. Then Fromsoft decided to fuck it up and return to DS3 poise, which is literaly the most criticized part of DS3. So in summary, the open world is very fucking mid, full of a lot to find, except a lot of that is just a repeat of what you already saw, the bosses suck complete fucking dick, Malenia being the prime example of everything wrong with this fucking game's boss design, the weapons are still being nerfed because of PVP and not only. There was 0 reason to nerf Sword of Night and Flame. If we end up with the fucking 3 weapons being viable for PvE because of PvP it'll be proof this company has learned nothing. They basically took everything wrong with DS3 and decided to expand on it.

[@mkv2718]

POIs? what the heck is that an abbreviation for?

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

@@mkv2718 Points of Interest, aka the churches, catacombs, ruins etc

[@RagnaTBE]

You've got some very valid criticisms of the game. The stutters happen frequently enough for me to notice and I recently discovered that fighting a (thankfully) optional boss causes my PCs drivers to crash. I'm still enjoying the game though and making attempts to fix the issue with my crashes

[@vennin7781]

Im guessing you're using amd drivers and an unnamed dragon kills your pc? haha

[@RagnaTBE]

@@vennin7781 Yes. Spot on. Is it a known issue?

[@vennin7781]

@@RagnaTBE Yeah, it happens to pretty much everyone on AMD. Even if they aren't having other issues. You're just going to have to either avoid the fight or burst it down before it does the attack that crashes.

[@CaravanCzar]

I thought I was the only one having problems with the invisible enemies on PC on day one. I thought my computer just didn't have the specs for it or something, despite approximately meeting the recommended specs. I just went and got a copy for PS4, and it runs just fine. I am gonna have to see if they fixed it on PC so I can run it. Thank you for confirming I'm not crazy.

[@DimitriX-zq1dr]

My Elden Ring PC experience was not being able to run it for 2 weeks straight (crash on white screen), but it turned out it was my fault. I halted some Windows update and it prevented me from installing Nvidia game-ready drivers. Once I fixed it, the game actually ran very smooth. No unplayable FPS, or invisible enemies, only few freezes here and there, maybe due to some background processes. My CPU and GPU are on low to middle end of system requirements, only RAM is recommended amount (16 gig). So I guess the memory is the main bottleneck currently. And for launch day players, the game actually forced the use of on-board video instead of dedicated video adapters. This is where most performance issues came from. Thankfully, fixed with patches.

[@dragontear7981]

That's rough. Those issues probably ruined your overall impressions of the game. Personally I've only experienced one or two frame drops during boss fights and Torrent disappeared after summoning once resulting in my character model dying from fall damage from a 3 foot fall. Kinda more funny then game breaking.

[@miceatah9359]

I had none and its nowhere close to a 10 its 7 max imo

[@dragontear7981]

@@miceatah9359 yeah, I think a perfect 10/10 is not really possible. Every game has problems somewhere. I'm a souls veteran and if I had to rate this game with my bias I'd easily give it a 8.5 or 9 :)

[@jplayer073]

The stutters are the main thing keeping me from playing the game right now. Getting a stutter or even multiple stutters during any fight is infuriating. It's particularly annoying because I can play every other game out there at 60+ fps with high settings and 1080/1440p. Game runs 50-60 fps which is fine, but the sudden drops to near 0 feel awful.

[@ToasterDsG]

Drop it 720p that should alleviate a lot of the stutter. Strange that 1080p didnt work out for you though, a lot of the issues happen after 1080p

[@jasantana]

So true about the taint experience with the PC version, I kept getting freezes and crashing that would take me back to the loading screen or game crash back into Steam and Steam would display the game is still active after fives minutes and this was back March... I put the game aside and played other FromSoft titles DS, BB and plan to revisit ER this year and I hope I just hope my sour experience back then isn't triggered when I play on my ps5 this time around

[@SaltyMacaroon]

Played through this game twice on pc, and the stutterng was a problem the entire time for me. 130+ hours of bosses freezing for half a second and dropping frames completely. Still worth experiencing, but I did uninstall it after my second playthrough. I'll wait for the inevitable dlc, and, by then, hopefully won't have these issues anymore.

[@luth7050]

45:27 is so true, in ds2 we used to invade (or leave mark) at iron keep bridge and it didnt matter, because you rarely got a newbie going through the map for first time, it was known as pvp zone to practice builds before hitting BoB, same as other specific zones

[@_papa_john]

Despite lacking somewhat in pve, DS2 had a strong pvp system that was incredibly well balanced. Where most other titles usually found a couple meta weapons being viable, almost any build was viable in DS2 due in part to how infusions worked. It also discarded the bosskill mechanic of other games, meaning that the game's online lifespan held out long past its release up to the time online for most dark souls games was disabled due to a RCE exploit.

[@Ruffy112]

While I see DS2 as the weakest game in the whole franchise, the PVP was the most enjoyable for me as well. DS1 was broken and barely functional, DS3 was a metaboi and gankfest. Other's I did not try. Did BB or Sekiro even have it? Let's see how Elden Ring's community performs, but I get the feeling it's gonna be lots and lots of people googling the strongest builds and meta to grief

[@moonboi2729]

I haven't experienced any of these issues in my time of playing the game

[@funnybleepbloopthing]

Probably because you’re not playing on pc

[@moonboi2729]

@@funnybleepbloopthing I am playing on pc

[@Geologese]

I'm on pc without these issues for the most part.

[@funnybleepbloopthing]

@@moonboi2729 fair enough, sorry if I was rude.

[@moonboi2729]

@@funnybleepbloopthing you're allright

[@therogueserafim271]

Don't get me wrong, I love this game to bits. Put more than 150 hours on it and I'm yet to finish it. But it shouldn't have been released on the state that it is. Edit: Or at least on PC. Between the performance issues and the broken NPC quest lines, it should have been, at least, more thoroughly tested.

[@StratEdgyProductions]

It's already started bricking pcs and corrupting save files due to hackers too. PC is a mess anymore. Makes me want to move over to consoles, honestly.

[@hiddenname7232]

@@StratEdgyProductions console shilling detected, did sony, nintendo or microsoft pay you to say that?

[@maciekprokop3780]

@@StratEdgyProductions I moved to xbox and 0 regrets. I was blind my whole life to play on pc

[@_BBAGG_]

​@@hiddenname7232L comment

[@Crispierbug]

One really strange problem I had one time is I was doing co-op and the host got invaded and minute later for me it said the invader went home, but then in another minute the invader starts attacking the host, I can't see the invader and I don't think he could see and all I could do was watch as he killed the host.

[@shupliance]

I found the footage at the beginning really odd because I never experienced an invisible enemy (at least that wasn't supposed to be.) especially surprising because I technically don't meet the GPU requirements on this, as I have a 1050ti, but I learned a while ago that elden ring apparently plays nicer with OLDER hardware. hypothetically, this game would run better on a 1080 than a 3080 so long as the model you're getting has comparable vram.

[@StratEdgyProductions]

I have a 2080 and apparently that's the one having the most issues.

[@dw4484]

@@StratEdgyProductions weirdly I have a 2080 and haven't seen this issue in 130 hours of play. I'm totally with you on how busted this release was though and think it's absolutely shameful.

[@odlfmariner470]

I have a 1660ti and the game is running smooth, with some pretty insignificant fps drops here and there.

[@JobeStroud]

Makes me wonder if the GPU is going to idle state with the higher end cards. Like it isn't using enough power to run it at a acceptable Mhz.

[@Homiloko2]

@@StratEdgyProductions I have a 2080 super and haven't had any issues at all, aside from some occasional micro stutter on Tree Sentinel specifically

[@MrTmm97]

As someone playing on PS5 I've had essentially no issues or noticable stuttering. I hope the PC issues clear up. I know the framerate on PS5 is definitely not a steady 60fps but the drops aren't big enough I notice them. Sorry about your problems...I am loving the game. I hope it gets fixed for others before too long goes by!

[@SuperExplosivegames]

Man I'm so sorry, it's insane to me the different experiences we've had when playing. I dont have the greatest pc but I legit get 60fps on average and have only crashed once in 80 hours of gameplay and it was when I was trying to jump into an area outside the map (somewhere you arent supposed to get to). I've had an amazing time with the game and have had no issues and absolutely love it, it's sad to see others cant experience the same

[@lilostich_]

yes it's bizarre! the optimization has to be improved, and this kind of thing has happened in EVERY game fromsoftware!!!Still, I don't think it's fair to evaluate the game solely by individual performance, especially for me who doesn't usually care much about fps and loads and had few problems.The game is indeed PHENOMENAL, and that's what makes me even sadder, the bad experience that some have is nothing compared to the whole game and some are being deprived of having fun and having a great time. This has to change

[@BoneWalker]

For me, I managed to fix a few problems by disabling EAC and going offline. went from a general 20fps to a general 40fps, and haven't seen an invisible enemy since, that wasn't a specific assassin in a random ass cave. This was after over 100 hours of playtime that I finally tested this. I'm not going back online, no matter how much I want to pvp.

[@MoBisley]

In reference to the story I've always kinda liked how it's in the background and you're always like an outsider. It always made me feel like a detective that discovered something important or an archeologist that uncovers something significant from the past and I just really enjoy that.

[@evgenyomegin]

So, you want to be nobody in an RPG game? That's your whole goal, to learn how much underpowered was some polygon with textures of a boss that you just fought from his prime form that miyazaki came up with while eating rice on a couch? To learn that everything you do in the game is pointless and your character is not even a character with emotions, character development and real connections to the npcs, and his whole existence doesn't really matter regardless of his choices here and there? To understand that instead of really playing in the world where everything was working and then being a spectator or a catalyst of the downfall of it, you are already thrown in the mess and just left walking around picking up trash and fighting enemies that are already severely weakened lore-wise? What is the point in that, developers hate themselves so much, they want you to worship their imaginary worlds and always remember, the main shit already happened, you're just a cuck watching leftovers eating on each other in our amazing game? Are all of dark souls fanboys ugly unsuccessful kids that hate themselves and their lives that they are looking for salvation in a video game as a spectator and not the main hero that is supposed to be the pinnacle of moral of the story? Absolutely ridiculous, and boring at the same time.

[@Squeaky245]

@@evgenyomegin That's one big block of text you typed out for no reason. lol

[@Maedeiros]

@@evgenyomegin we know Todd, every game should end up with you becoming the leader of every faction, we all played Skyrim 20 times and we loved it. Now go work on TES 6 will ya?

[@tornmonster2]

@@evgenyomegin The world being so decomposed by incompetent leadership that a no-name janitor can muster up the power to literally kill a god and become one to shape his new world is a much more interesting narrative than someone fate decided will win ends up winning, yes.

[@evgenyomegin]

@@tornmonster2 you don't shape anything, lol. You just see the cutscene in the end about polygon texture you ran around with throughout the game that you don't give a shit about sitting in a chair or burning alive like an idiot. There is no character development in these games whatsoever. You started with trash, you ended up with same trash that stole armor and weapons from other things in the game. The only thing changed is you saw the ending cutscene. Again, boring asf.

[@TrillNye69]

I have 105 hours and haven't had to deal with even half of these bugs LOL I'm sorry it ruined your experience man, still a 10/10 for me

[@error-bu3vi]

Im 47 hours in and the only bugs ive encourtered is projectiles hitting the ground when your locked on to them and a slope (which isnt a bug per say) and enemys clipping into the ground so i cant hit their crit when they fall over and then they get back up and kill me because i couldnt get the crit to stagger them.

[@JohnnyStrelok]

Really sucks that people get these random issues. Same thing happened with me and Cyberpunk 2077 - in 100 hours and a full playthrough, I saw one floating cigarette and crashed twice. That's it.

[@maninblack3410]

Not gonna watch the video until I beat the game, but I thought the title might be click bait or something. Sucks for people on pc, but after 80+ hours on ps5 I haven’t experience *any* bugs that I could identify. I genuinely feel like this is one of the best games ever made, if that’s not ten out of ten nothing is lol.

[@error-bu3vi]

@@makeitthrough_ i think the point is more that the author experiencing bugs is a anecdotal experience, others may have it or they may not, people seem to be providing their anecdotal experiences which provides a small look at others experiences, and does not reduce the personal significance of the authors experience.

[@maninblack3410]

@@makeitthrough_ that’s a pretty trash take my dude. If you’re really looking to bash something popular (obvious by all your other comments) the least you could do is use an analogy that actually fits the situation. Not think of the most gotchya comparison and throw away any thought about the fact that it doesn’t make sense.

[@Srab23]

What's your experience with game development anyway? I'm a second year level design student and I should know my stuff, but you just explained draw calls, which I have been trying to wrap my head around to fully understand it, in a really good way. I'm really impressed by your understanding of both game design and all of the other technicalities

[@aka_rancor]

Hey I was having around 15-30FPS on my 2060 and it turned out within the Nvidia control panel the game was defaulting to the integrated graphics on my CPU. After changing it to the 2060 it's been pretty solid at 60fps. Still have some frame drops but it's doubled the FPS average. Just wondering if you checked that as well?

[@arenkai]

Sometimes people release statements and I think "It's like we haven't played the same game" Here I see your clips and I know we haven't played the same game. I'm sorry this happened to you

[@StratEdgyProductions]

It really does suck but the PS4 is rock solid. If I played this on ps5 my opinion would've been a lot different.

[@DailyCorvid]

@@StratEdgyProductions So you didn't notice how terrible some of the weapon swing animations and timings are? Or how grindy this game is, despite being an open world it forces repetition of the same small pieces of content again and again and again :/ I thought you were fair, I would have been a lot more critical and not even bothered talking about performance. The main issue for me are not there, they are in the poor quality of it's overall design. The devs need to think about this game again, and not copy this stuff into their next title. Bloodborne, Sekiro, hell even Tenchu Wrath Of Heaven are all better games than this one when it comes to gameplay. Which is a shame because I like the world design, but not the rest. You were far too kind to this game! Lol I suppose the Twitterati would have had a meltdown :D

[@isaacmoore9996]

Absolutely crazy, I’ve had zero frame drops, crashes and no dodgy stuff happen of any kind. Feel like I’m one of the lucky ones.

[@powerbeard5653]

remember how everyone loved dark souls 2 when it first came out, and only later they started accepting its flaws? i dont doubt the same will happen with this game.

[@sangheilicommander1056]

i turn on pvp for myself, the biggest issue is there is literally ZERO breathing room. i loved being invaded before in ds1&3 now i have to manually choose when i want them or its non stop. the reason this is an issue is i cant make ANY progress because im fighting back to back invaders until i die. invasions shoulda been opt out not opt in. and guess what in the past if you didnt wanna be invaded PLAY IN OFFLINE MODE this only negatively effects people who wanna be invaded like myself. oh and 95% of invasions are just gank fests now.

[@brandogtv9650]

I just finished the last elden lord, playing on pc. I have had 3 frame drops. One at the first golden twig at the start of the game, again at stormhill shack and lastly at Volcano Manor in a non hostile zone. I did have two invisible enemies but it turns out they were suppose to be its a bit of a trope at this point. Literally everything else has ran completely smooth. My rig is about 5 years old at this point as well. This game is as close to a 10/10 game we are ever going to get.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

Can't wait unti we get some mods to fix the camera and control issues. The amount of times I've died from forgetting that the player character dgaf about where you're actually aiming or hit M for map lol.

[@shhs1227]

@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer literally just get a controller

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@shhs1227 using a controller doesn't change anything I have an issue with. The player character still faces and attacks in the direction of movement and not the direction you're aiming at, even when using a controller.

[@OmniferousPain]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[@zepherscotty]

I had it on PC, It had some lag, but honestly never was an issue for me. I can honestly say lag never caused me to die. I've played for 80+ hours & absolutely loved it. sad if other couldn't enjoy it.

[@themanicman8458]

I'm on the Xbox One version and I have an input lag issue no matter what button I press it takes over half a second to register Despite this I still have over 48 hours then and five characters so far my favorite is a faith melee hybrid confessor All hail black flame and lightning spear

[@zppzxoox]

This video is kinda misleading, the problem is actually anti-cheat. Or rather how they implemented it. I imagine they did a quick hack-job because of when they attempted to solve it for the dark souls games. They started to work on the solution quite soon to the launch. If you disable the anti-cheat (disables the multi-player) the game runs very well. I went from a 2 minute loading screen to 2 seconds. Literally. It doesn't look related to how good your computer is, just some oddity how the anti-cheat was implemented.

[@AveSicarius]

@@zppzxoox I mean it's difficult to actually isolate that as the issue when you are having general performance issues even when playing offline. I also wouldn't be surprised if there were actual optimization issues, because there are been such issues in every recent FS game. Given the amount of people having issues, I'm sure there have been many who have tried to do this and still seen no increase in performance. Especially because the game seems to be overloading quite powerful hardware for some strange reason. I do honestly think that FS should just have removed the competitive online component on initial launch and added it in later when, you know, the AC system has actually been integrated into the game though. For as much as people seem to obsess over it, the multiplayer experience is not the core gameplay experience for most people, and should be seen as secondary. This isn't an online focused PVP experience, like Street Fighter, it's a largely single player experience for the vast majority of players, and should be treated as such, with later content enabling multiplayer being released if it is actually in demand. I think covering optimization also isn't misleading, most people don't understand the amount of work that needs to go into optimization, and expect games to be fixed very quickly. But even optimizing DRM or AC software is a monumental task (and usually not up to the game developer which is why they shouldn't even be included), let alone covering the actual optimization issues in the game itself. We have seen enough games with performance issues that this is a good subject to cover.

[@zppzxoox]

​@@AveSicarius > it's difficult to actually isolate that as the issue when you are having general performance issues even when playing offline. When you play offline anti-cheat is still active. You need to disable the anti-cheat. Sure the game is a bit badly optimized. VALVe actually made the game run better on Steam Deck because they could isolate and fix some issues regarding to shader caching. But 99% of the issues people are having are related to the anti-cheat

[@Homiloko2]

@@zppzxoox It's probably hardware or software related (i.e. it only causes issues on some systems). I don't have any problems even with AC on. And I have a friend who had framerate issues and disabling the AC through a special executable didn't help him at all. Maybe for some people the AC is an issue, for others it's just bad optimization etc. and some people don't have any problems at all.

[@alexoelkers2292]

Draw calls don't appear to be the issue here. I have a RTX 3070, I know people with RTX 3090s and we are having the exact same issues as players with lesser cards. Generally when a game's draw calls are too high the frame rate slows down to crawl and lower end hardware has even a harder time trying to render. However this is different, its more of a stuttering issue that lasts for a couple moments and then goes away. Best quess its the anti-cheat software that was added to the game at the very end of the production cycle.

[@Wingspand1]

I remember playing it right when it came out and my buddy woke up to play it it right before I had to go to work. I was complaining about invisible enemies and he jokes saying something like, "You know they had invisible enemies in other games. Just get good." I just rolled my eyes and put the game down for a bit so they could fix it.

[@tobyyasutake9094]

I... Love you Strat... And I don't have an explanation... My PC *barely* squeaks passed the minimum settings and I've had almost no performance problems... I'm sorry for your loss

[@Bearwiffa228]

Playing on the PS4 and so far I've had no frame drops or bugs to speak of, I have heard that it's still broken on PC though which sucks. You would think it'd be the other way around

[@escalatingbarbarism5096]

You wouldn't and shouldn't think that, every single Souls game released on PC has had many issues not present on the console versions, DS1 on PC for example was borderline unplayable without a fan patch up until the Remaster. Generally speaking Japanese developed games have a rough history on PC.

[@Bearwiffa228]

@@escalatingbarbarism5096 wow I had no idea. Haven't had a Pc in years and was used to the good ole days when console ports were more often the jank stock. Just grateful I'm getting to enjoy this game without bugs.

[@mattBLACKpunk]

Japanese devs are usually better with console

[@ToasterDsG]

PC gaming isn't really a thing in Japan, so its very much an after thought. I think Capcom has been the only japanese dev to put in some effort into their ports.

[@andoli1646]

It should be the opposite since every console has the same parts where pc can have various configuration

[@jordangordon2350]

So like what GPU do you have? Because I haven’t really experienced these issues. I’ve experienced things and enemies dissapearing in the background, but not while I’m fighting them. And I’ve never experienced a crash at 50 hours in. And my framerate stays around 60 at high settings.

[@bennygerow]

35:54 this is excellent advise for multiple games. I just solo'd a Grandmaster NF in Destiny for the first time ever (4k hours), and it wasn't because I made the game do what I wanted it to do to be easier. It's because I switched characters and off of the weapons I had been using. I tried different things and got it done in two hours.

[@valipunctro]

I have a pretty average PC and didn't have frame issues or disappearing enemies,some crashes,Les them ten in 40 hours.i guess I was just lucky.

[@ToasterDsG]

The framerate/stuttering issues plague more powerful machines for some reason.

[@hubbabubba5177]

Strange, I get some stuttering, but have not had a single crash in over 100 hours

[@slyppzr7382]

As a ps5 player it runs damn near perfect. Lovely game.

[@solid_scott4642]

100% agree

[@lotgxj9215]

right? ps5 i havent seen any of this

[@Delby5]

Just some bad pop in but other than that I give it a chefs kiss 😘. Fromsoft has always had a problem with pc ports so I’m surprised anyone ever buys them imo.

[@infernodtw2423]

I had the same issue with disappearing enemies very briefly. I didn’t see in the patch notes whether it was addressed but after the patch I haven’t had this issue.

[@Slvrbuu]

No idea why you had these issues, I still have a 1080 from 2017 and it runs a solid 60 almost all the time. I've had no invisible mobs, nor stuttering. Out of curiosity, what Video Card/Type of hard drive did you use?

[@UncleBalthasarGelt]

It's like this comment section didn't watch the whole video. How surprising. All his points are fair, and he still praise the game despite the very real flaws.

[@augustanxv414]

Lmao just finished the video and yeah no one watched till the end

[@DirkusTurkess]

Dat ass tho amirite?

[@devinscott8680]

Its the Souls community my man, they love meat-sucking Miyazaki and nothing else despite the fact him and FromSoft are very flawed in their game designs and decisions.

[@WildArmsV]

Why do you think the saying first impressions are important. That rant in the beginning won't really make ppl want to stay, is the classic" it didn't run well for me so everyone else is wrong "

[@cidfacetious3722]

@@devinscott8680 there’s nothing wrong with their game design or “decisions” proved by the success. It’s their tech. It’s old and never great. if they don’t completely overhaule it for the next game their gonna end up like Bethesda

[@StakeFromJateFarm]

"You gotta treat a corporation like how you treat a dog" Subscribed

[@WilliEverStop]

"...and you think to yourself: Am I crazy? Am I playing a different game than these people..." That sums up how I felt with The Witcher 3. I enjoyed it because I got the complete edition for 10 bucks but I couldn't understand how a game so buggy could be considered a masterpiece 10/10.

[@JechtNH]

Same! I think the bias in Witcher 3 comes from a fact that what the game does well, it does exceptionally well (quests, atmosphere, music etc). However it doesnt change the fact that it has many flaws.

[@SolidSnake240]

As much as I hate using the term "overrated" but I think it fits The Witcher 3 perfectly.

[@Steelninja77]

I saw literally no bugs in the witcher 3.

[@Ps3luvr260]

Buggy launch that most people didn’t play, most people picked up the game due to word of mouth a year or more after the game came out and was patched up. Same reasons people look back on bf4 as one of the best shooters ever made even though it had an atrocious launch

[@GentlemanSavage61]

Finally, I feel sane. I have bought only 2 games at release in the last 7 years: Monster Hunter World and Elden Ring. Got it on PC and spent over 6 hours troubleshooting issues after the first hour of play just to get the game to run, only to discover all the enemies go invisibru from time to time. It really has soured me to the game, and I haven't wanted to play it simply because of the issues that aren't my fault getting in the way. The issue is that I don't want to get it on the PS4 too... I can't bring myself to pay 120 for a busted game

[@thebigstinky6438]

Just wait for the patches bro! *sarcasm* Nowadays it's almost an anomaly for a game to be released fully finished, without bugs, and complete with promised features. And it's absolutely unfair to you or anyone, the REAL fans that "made the game possible", to pay $60+ for a game that's unpolished/unfinished. I understand the pressure on studios to release the game within a time frame for investors, etc. but it's still inexcusable. I really empathize with your comment btw🤕

[@corbincavitt635]

Tried playing this game on his 7 year old pc lmao.

[@GentlemanSavage61]

@@corbincavitt635 *2 year old PC.

[@allanomaly3488]

It's a damn shame you've had such a bugged experience. I have a poopy computer and it still runs the game pretty well so I'm not sure what the issue is.

[@dummboi3177]

I'm seeing these bugs for the first time, honestly didn't know it was this bad for others.

[@smarttowel1173]

now that the game is stable on PC, i recommend revisiting this review lol

[@thomask1424]

After playing on Xbox S for 2 1/2 months, I bought the PC version 7/31 and it runs great on my R5 3500/gtx1660 Super rig, no crashes , none of the issues you had. (I bought the Xbox just to play ER because the PC port was supposedly so shitty but, as a PC gamer I spent as much time fighting the controller as the enemies.) It seems they fixed most of these issues with the updates.

[@cc1912]

Silly question: are you playing in online mode or offline? If the former, then your system has the additional workload of near-realtime web service pings. Might help.

[@justhecuke]

Web service pings are so low overhead that, unless FromSoftware did something exceptionally stupid, it's a non-issue.

[@cc1912]

Yeah I figured as such. It's not so much the amount of data being passed, but having Windows spin up another svchost process for the same. There may be app-level throttling that requires a successful service request+response before subsequent in-game methods can be executed (hypothetical).

[@justhecuke]

@@cc1912 Again, that's only a problem if FromSoftware did stupid things. Handling network traffic like this is a solved problem and blocking gameplay on network activity is simply one of those things we know not to do during gameplay, far preferring a future sync than a current block.

[@Marcos-gb5hd]

It's seems like everyone has kinda the same opinion "wow I played in on PC and it wasn't that bad, guess I was lucky" but I really think you were the unlucky here, shame that you had this experience this game is great hope they fix this problem even if the majority isn't having them

[@Kaucukovnik666]

Good performance is a very subjective matter. For mediocre machine owners 20 fps on low details is fine. On some SLI monstrosity even microstutters in 4K are unacceptable.

[@Marcos-gb5hd]

@@Kaucukovnik666 that is true but we can all agree that Bloodborne frames sucks but it didn't stop people from loving it, I guess life is strange lol Edit: you could argue that Bloodborne fps is always shit so the consistency makes it bearable

[@Kaucukovnik666]

@@Marcos-gb5hd Yeah, that's the thing. Consistency matters. Input response matters, and even at 60 fps you can have crap responsiveness. Camera bobbing makes some people notice low fps more, others notice it less...

[@AuspexAO]

The majority definitely are having a really good experience, but over 39000 negative reviews on STEAM are mostly poor performance related. Even some trusted online reviewers released a caveat saying, "this game is awesome, but a late patch made the performance much worse on PC."

[@iantaylor2331]

With regards to optimization, what should developers aim for in terms of graphic settings FPS and recommended hardware requirements? To my way of thinking, games should be optimized to run at 60fps at 1440p at medium with recommended hardware, given what’s out there for your average rig. Is this right?

[@jordancantrell6598]

I had the invisible enemy glitch when I FIRST got it, but I found a reddit tip of forcing the game to run in "Windows high performance mode" and it literally fixed everything. I get a stutter every now and then and I have crashed a few times in the later areas but I have 150 hours and it's been 90% great

[@djdalby]

The Elden Ring apologist force out in full effect. Cope harder.

[@ShadyLurker16]

The "I suck therefore game is shit" crowd is out in full force. Cope harder lol.

[@lebarbosa9778]

@@ShadyLurker16 souls games aren't hard tho. Everyone with a little bit of patience can finish them.

[@PhinneyFitness]

Idk who at fromsoft thought adding a .5 sec delay to the roll command was a good idea. That's my biggest complaint with the game. It's great but definitely not perfect. Valid criticisms.

[@wilfredwayne7139]

I don't play PvP so all the nerfs really pissed me off had to use around 5 larval tears due to my damage being halved at the very least.

[@MrSarakash]

Is it ironic that I am playing Elden Ring while listening to this and it hard crashed 2 times ? You tell me : )

[@glasssawsslipperstraws7410]

I'm so glad that this was the game I decided to buy on my Series S instead of my PC. I thought that the Series S and last gen consoles is where Elden Ring would run at 3 frames a second and have more bugs than a beehive but my experience has been fine except for a little pop-in when you load to a new area

[@JungleLadd]

Hearing the first half of this so far is wild. Ive got over 100 hours clocked on it ( on ps4) and havent had a single one of these issues come up.

[@mag51284]

120 hours, some frame drops every now and then but no bugs.

[@elyonkris9999]

Yeah this dudes pc is trash. I have 80 hours and not once have I had bugs. Just frames drop. Not even crashes. This dudes hardware is so bad

[@AveSicarius]

@@elyonkris9999 A whole bunch of people have far more powerful computer's and experienced similar issues. Not only that but as he said, his specs EXCEED the recommend requirements. That being the case makes this extremely important and having nothing to do with his actual specs and everything to do with game optimization. This is better than the machine that FS were saying ER should run perfectly on, the fact that people who exceed that, and people who have far better specs, still have issues demonstrates this to be a PC optimization issue that isn't exactly uncommon. You quite literally do not know what you are talking about and should just be quiet while the adults have a proper discussion.

[@elyonkris9999]

@@AveSicarius No one asked, plus you wasted your time. Go touch grass. Thank you for the reply.

[@AveSicarius]

@@elyonkris9999 I mean you left a comment in an open forum and now you complain that someone answered your statement just because they disagree with you. I think you need to reevaluate your actions on this platform...

[@willprotector]

Wow, if my experience on PC were like yours I would have given it a 7/10 myself. A 10/10 is not a perfect game--I think that is a mistake people make when they see a review. The perfect game does not exist, but doesn't preclude ever giving out a 10/10. Also, reviews are typically done from the pure enjoyment of the game--which most users had a positive experience with. I did notice some frame-rate issues around launch, but I also waited until the game was patched and then it fixed it for me. I would rate it 9/10, mostly because I have enjoyed the game so much. I also play offline, so I don't have any experience with the multiplayer issues.

[@bryanadam4578]

Honestly, the perfect game is wholly subjective. One person's perfect game, is going to be another's trash.

[@Slohcin31820]

I'm not sure what my specific settings are (I just selected "max" on the menu) but I haven't had any of these issues on my laptop. I guess my only concern is my screen sometimes goes black for a second or two but then again it does that even on my desktop

[@snurgumwurgum8238]

I'm playing this game on PS4 and i've had NONE of these problems at over 100 hours of play. I've found some glitchy-ness and jank here and there; but in my experience it has never been as bad as described in this video. The only time the game has Crashed/Frozen up for me was a few times trying to connect to somebody else for multiplayer.

[@lronjack]

Yeah, PS4 hasn't had any issues other than one or two areas having brief stuttering 30fps is fine, everyone is crazy

[@SGTMasterBean]

You guys rly havent had bad fps areas? Im fine with 30 but often it drops to like 10-15 frames for me on ps4

[@lx4079]

@@lronjack if your standards are low enough to say people who want more than 30 fps are "crazy", your definition of brief stuttering is probably far far worse than what a normal person would consider "brief"

[@AveSicarius]

@@lx4079 I mean for console gaming, 30 fps is a pretty normal expectation which is why people who primarily play on consoles are less impacted by frame issues, personally I believe they should either up console specs and reduce the relative price (because the actual component price has very little to do with final cost apparently), or reduce the fidelity of games in line with the expected hardware. Both would probably result in a stable 60 FPS. But it's honestly far easier to get a stable framerate on a console in the first place, because hardware is usually unilateral, unlike PC gaming where there is a vast difference in components and potential performance.

[@snurgumwurgum8238]

@@SGTMasterBean I've had a few frame drops in some of the more dense areas and in certain boss fights; General Radahn is janky as fuck. The game also sometimes crashes when i try to connect to somebody else for multiplayer. But beyond these few issues i've had no serious problems playing more than 100 hours on PS4. The game isn't perfect but it's pretty damn good.

[@UnholyDrow]

39:55 took 13 years to add jumping talk about adding features slowly

[@Derethevil]

Before the latest patch i had constant 60 FPS with 1440p and max settings. Hell i could even crank it up to 4k and it still ran with near 60 FPS all the time. Now? Even turned down to 1080p and low settings i have stuttering and freezes all the time. In case you want to know the specs of my system: 1080 TI ASUS Strix 32gb of RAM Intel i9 9900KF Running it on a m.2 SSD

[@skippertheeyechild6621]

Good game, but nowhere near as good as what people are claiming it to be. It has some real issues. Also at this point, I just want a goddamn pause button.