Loved having the chance to collaborate on this! The Dark Souls Lore videos from this channel were some of the biggest inspirations for creating my own content, so thank you again for having me on board for one of my favorite topics in the game
@Byebye24151 Жыл бұрын
I like your video
@Jesus_loves_u711 ай бұрын
Jesus ❤️ y'all
@stefanociuffo30612 жыл бұрын
"Power granted, is stronger than power stolen" that why the dragon cult could wield the red lighting of ancient dragons without adverse effects, unlike the act of dragon communion.
@whataghost15242 жыл бұрын
That’s actually really cool! Can you tell me where this is said in the game cause I was a lightning Dex build and I would like to know more about it’s lore within my own research
@travisoliver67412 жыл бұрын
@@whataghost1524 I don't think it's ever actually said, but that is really the gist of the different between Dragon Communion, and the Dragon Cult. In Dragon Communon, you devour the hearts of dragons, stealing their powers, and quite a few of their abilities. But you are condemned to a miserable life as a Magma Wyrm, likely suffering from ego death. Theodorix's Magma states that his name lives on, but makes no mention of him as a Magma Wyrm and no references to his thoughts or opinions, unlike other dragons. It's never stated anywhere, but Dragon Communion is definitely based on the story of Sigurd/Siegfried, who consumed the heart of Fafnir, an evil dragon that was once a dwarf, but became obsessed with his gold. The fates of Magma Wyrms is basically a mix of Sigurd and Fafnir's stories. Dragon Cult Incantations, on the other hand, are given to those who worshipped dragons. Lansseax was said to have turned into a human to lead the Dragon Cult in Leyndell. She loved Vyke the most out of everyone, and gave him a cool lightning weapon. Apparently, only those loved by dragons can wreathe themselves in the lightning of them. Gameplay-wise, there is nothing that actually indicates that these have differences in strength. Lorewise, it's evident that Dragon Communion is morally wrong, as dragons are shown to be sapient lifeforms, and Ekzykes, even while suffering from Scarlet Rot, fought away anyone trying to do so. However, those loved by dragons, such as Vyke, not only have the moral high ground, but are also blessed with the strength of dragons without running the risk of losing your humanity.
@coleslaw342342 жыл бұрын
Id say becoming a magma wyrm is a slight adverse effect
@lordphuckwadd64622 жыл бұрын
So if the whole magma wyrm thing is a curse, would the celestial dew redeem you for your "atrocities" some how?
@KogasaTatara514 Жыл бұрын
@@lordphuckwadd6462 does it revert your eyes back to normal? I'm not sure but I doubt it. The dew also doesn't revive dead NPCs as far as I'm aware, it can only make them forgive you if they're still alive, so I doubt it would work here.
@sirmaggot20202 жыл бұрын
If you don’t like the idea of your character becoming a magma wyrm you can just say that your character is built different and will not succumb to that fate
@ddomenicoeeziommancini2 жыл бұрын
If you don't like the idea of your character becoming a magma wyrm you can just say that your character is based and redpilled and magma wyrm are cringe soyjack who don't upvote chonkers and/or praise Elon Musk but instead worship dragons in the betacuck communion
@keseanlee82192 жыл бұрын
Our character most likely would find a cure tbh
@goreycarousel96892 жыл бұрын
Seriously, you can do Rennala's rebirth a infinite number of times without getting weaker in the slightest even though it's supposedly meant to do so in lore. Your character quite literally *is* built different.
@lp51702 жыл бұрын
@@goreycarousel9689 it’s because we have her Rune of Rebirth
@goreycarousel96892 жыл бұрын
@@lp5170 Ah, that explains it, completely went over my head. Thanks for the info my guy.
@admma212 жыл бұрын
Loved the dragons in this game. I understand the takes on enemy variety, but it made them feel like normal inhabitants of The Lands Between. I enjoyed them
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
More dragons is never a bad idea! =D
@ExpandDong4202 жыл бұрын
If only they had more variation, each one of the special types seem to have just one attack separating them from a generic dragon.
@showlottathings2 жыл бұрын
For me every dragon fight was really fun and memorable, I never thought twice about reused enemies until I heard people mentioning it online...
@dylanschmeichel20082 жыл бұрын
I just feel it got repetitive design wise. The other games such as ds1 for example had decent variety not to mention fighting the same enemy over and over again can take away from the significance of the fight. I was however more disappointed with the reuse of Fortissax/Lannseax as meager enemies within Farum Azula. Fortissax was supposed to be the greatest soldier of the dragons yet if he is simply another dragon then it takes something away from him, unless the two dragons are like Lannseax and Fortissax within a different time?I guess that would make sense considering the Fortissax variant is missing most of its HP.
@AegisKHAOS2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanschmeichel2008 It is one of the reasons why I liked Placidusax alot, because of the fact that there is only one of him. I may not have been bothered by encountering four other dragons that look like Lansseax in Farum Azula, but I will say that his title of Dragonlord really stands out when I only encounter him in one secret location for one fight. The only time I would accept another encounter would be through time travel where he be in full health, as in all five heads and no wounds.
@salomonofhungary55932 жыл бұрын
Never knew Ekzykes was intentionally guarding the Cathedral of Dragon Communion just so he could avenge fallen dragons, he was already one of my favorite bosses in the game just by visual design, and how he blends in with the landscape, but this just elevates him to another level of badassery in my eyes. Great video, Ashen!
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Ekzykes a true dragon hero! Thanks, dude! =D
@the_furry_inside_your_walls6392 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of how Radahn continues to keep the stars in place and still continues to help his steed carry him with gravity magic. Even though they're both afflicted by the scarlet rot to the point of insanity, they are still determined to do what they set out to do. Absolute badassary.
@michaelwerkov34382 жыл бұрын
Is that the name of the giant dragon? I tbought that was greyoll...? I really dont remember ezykes Edit: ahhh
@YelFlux2 жыл бұрын
Me too I I thought he was just chilling here
@mobolajiade-aina86432 жыл бұрын
In that case, he wasn't doing a good job, since I literally got to the cathedral from behind and got the rotten breath a while ago and was busy looking for him to kill him, only to find out right now from this video that he was right under my nose the whole time lol.
@joshuahendrickson86942 жыл бұрын
Placidusax is one of the most grand and awe-inspiring boss fights, ever. You truly feel you're fighting an immensely powerful being.
@sheldonjplanktonn Жыл бұрын
Behold, fat coin purse! That's what my messages said next to his loot. Didn't expect to get that 200k something runes from that fight.
@Jesus_loves_u711 ай бұрын
Jesus ❤️ y'all
@NeovenatorGuy11 ай бұрын
@@Jesus_loves_u7 amen
@InfernoVerse97510 ай бұрын
@@Jesus_loves_u7Amen
@PsychicNexus2 жыл бұрын
The way Placidusax are holding their heads. Kinda reminds me of when our own two fingers starts communing with the greater will. Also, a similiar kind of hand symbolism considering he probably had 5 heads but now only got two, and that there are two fingres mostly, but the Three Fingers also exsist but are considered mad and heretical. going on a long limb here, but maybe there was a "hand" of 5 fingers, that split?
@jannafrancis74522 жыл бұрын
Bestial-themed items involve a lot of Five Fingered imagery (Cinqueda, incants). And of course, Beastmen hail from Farman Azula…
@nightlock36972 жыл бұрын
It's more likely that Placidusax had 4 heads, as the Old Lord Talisman is crafted in his image when he was Lord of the Lands Between
@fromsimp2pimp4252 жыл бұрын
@@nightlock3697 placidusax has 5 heads, count the stumps. honestly we have no idea if placidusax actually is the dragon lord just because of that difference, but it could just be a mistake that the developers, made
@beskarbaron65032 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the 3 fingers (and the frenzied flame by extension) are explicitly something cast off from the world long ago.
@misterwiggles87712 жыл бұрын
@@fromsimp2pimp425 that makes hella sense when you consider the seemingly ancient version of the Elden Ring Rune or whatever it is that you can see in farum azula. It possesses much more than the current Elden Ring rune/insignia/whatever. So maybe the 3 fingers split from the "hand"/"five fingers", taking with it 3 of the heads of Placidusax, along with unknown runes of power? Also look at how intertwined Vyke (the assumed closest tarnished to becoming elden lord before we come along) is between his position as a knight loved by the dragons (he has special ancient dragon incantations), and his revision as a Frenzied Flame partaker (not sure what to call that). At this point I feel like we can definitely count on 2 DLC's at least: 1 - Miquella and Formless Mother (because obviously), and 2 - 3 fingers and Shabriri. And honestly, with how assumed DLC 1 revolves around blood/an outer god, and assumed dlc 2 revolves around madness/an outer god, I think it's also highly possible that an assumed dlc 3 could revolve around the god of rot. And then also maybe, since they had another completely separate game in production at the same time of elden ring, and with it being close to fruition, maybe that will be a DLC-type game that goes into more of the history of ancient times in the lands between? Or maybe somewhere in one of those things they talk about the different lands mentioned throughout the game? Regardless, I'm very excited to see what comes next in this series.
@mattl99662 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the magma wyrms being cursed to crawl on their bellies for their transgressions. Very similar to the story of man’s expulsion from Eden in the Bible. Miyazaki always loved western, Christian and gothic themes and this fits perfectly.
@portalmanHUN2 жыл бұрын
Lots of christian and biblical stuff in this game.
@thisen11462 жыл бұрын
@@portalmanHUN honestly there is alot of everything in this games lore and environment
@Autismo_the_Impaler2 жыл бұрын
@@thisen1146 not just in this game bloodborne literally bloodborne is heavily based off of the God damn Catholic Church with Latin and everything.
@khalilmason2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great set of fairytales; Who can blame him?
@spectralassassin60302 жыл бұрын
@@khalilmason That "fairytales" part was intentional wasn't it.
@thaddeusgigachaddeus29542 жыл бұрын
The dragon fights in this game are so fun, they're not super difficult like the bosses and you can usually beat them first try, but they add a huge sense of scale when you're fighting them
@Bmac10272 жыл бұрын
Yeah they give a spectacle that most other bosses can't compare to
@aperson65622 жыл бұрын
Only thing I hate about them is how wonky the lock on for the farum azula type dragons are
@safsaf992 жыл бұрын
But their attack patterns are kinda repetitive
@johnapple66462 жыл бұрын
Dragons are fine, but I hate ancient dragons. Something about their size makes them so hard to hit in melee. And they don't lower their heads much like normal dragons
@nugget-zf5by2 жыл бұрын
@@aperson6562 jinwoo?
@somedudewithakeyboard53882 жыл бұрын
A note on Eleonora She holds the purifying tear, specifically meant to counter the bloodboon ritual which grants Mohg his strength. Furthermore, she wields Greyoll's roar, an ability which requires the death of the Elder Dragon. However, she can wield it even if we have not yet killed Greyoll. It is my belief that Eleonora was attempting to amass draconic power to slay Mohg before he could form his Dynasty, hence the purifying tear, and used his bloodflame to stave off the negative effects of Dragon Communion. Hearts pump blood through one's body, and it is the hearts of the Dragons that is needed to harness their power. Thus, the introduction of Bloodflame may introduce a second "agent" into the blood of Eleonora, allowing her to wield both and cancel out the negative effects of one another. This is further supported by Dragon incantations and Bloodflame incantations both requiring Arcane to wield
@nightscout99792 жыл бұрын
I got the impression that Eleonora started off as a Dragon Communion practicioner, but eventually wanted to kill all types of beings for power, thus joining Mohg's band of murderers. She was trusted with guarding the Purifying Crystal Tear because it was least likely to be taken from her and used to mitigate Mohg's attacks.
@somedudewithakeyboard53882 жыл бұрын
@@nightscout9979 that could also be the case. However, if you look at her face under her helmet, she doesn't have the tattoo that Varre and other bloody fingers have, signifying that she is not a true supporter of Mohg
@nightscout99792 жыл бұрын
@@somedudewithakeyboard5388 The player doesn't get that tattoo either, so Eleonora might still be a Mohg supporter. She also might have only recently joined his group because it aligned with her interests of basically killing anyone she wanted for power.
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
@@nightscout9979 the player not getting it can easily be dismissed as its an rpg and some people put a lot of time into their character and wouldnt want it ruined with a tattoo for a quest they most likely would want to do. Its far more significant that she is the only npc associated with mohg who doesnt have the tattoo as with froms well known attention to the little details its very unlikely to be a mistake
@nightscout99792 жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 Elden Ring lets players change their appearance with the mirror in Fia's room, so it's not like a player would have to defeat Rennala to undo a tattoo.
@kawaiiamethist2 жыл бұрын
I wondered why killing Greyoll netted five hearts. I never noticed the others around her died, too. I always bailed out right after the death, fearing losing my rune haul to the surrounding dragons.
@hk-47332 жыл бұрын
same just kinda thought it was so big it needed multiple hearts
@pualbaptiste8617 Жыл бұрын
@@hk-4733 that's what I thought
@Silly_Illidan Жыл бұрын
Weird....I killed greyoll, got the runes but the Drake's still exist
@SirYappington39 ай бұрын
Me who just hit greyoll from behind finding out there were others:
@schizosamurai88402 жыл бұрын
The curse of dragon communion puts an interesting twist on a tarnished who manages to ascend to status of elden lord Especially if they chose the age of fracture or age of true order Suddenly, Leyendell finds itself being ruled over by an Elden lord magma wyrm.
@djrocksgaming62552 жыл бұрын
We could just use the Elden Ring to get rid of that side effect.
@blockeddefault43602 жыл бұрын
@@djrocksgaming6255 the player kills the elden beast which was the elden ring so i doubt it
@TheSmolPrince Жыл бұрын
@@blockeddefault4360 No. Once the Elden beast is defeated, the remainder of the Elden Ring once again fuses with Marika's body, once you repair her, you repair the ring, thus making the Tarnished the ruling god of the lands between. The Tarnished would definitely not turn into a Wyrm, they're simply too powerful to succumb to the Communion's effects.
@mitchellzollinger1100 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSmolPrince How do you know if it even works that way? "Too powerful to succumb"? Did I embarrassingly miss a part of this video explaining that? Perhaps the main character wants to be a dragon?
@mkan3134 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchellzollinger1100 Yeah maybe the champion tarnished will use the elden ring to become a real dragon
@heilonghuangdi33482 жыл бұрын
Man. This video was exquisitely narrated and designed. The ending sent chills down my spine. Dragon communion incantations are among my favorite in this whole game.
@depaul72 жыл бұрын
I always thought Dragonbarrow was like a cemetery for dragons of sorts. Where the weakening dragons go to die. They all look kinda sickly. Great video 👍🏽
@fallen99972 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's because Dragonbarrow was nuked with Caelid by Malenia, and it affected these dragons.
@joshuaperry24262 жыл бұрын
Nahh the dragons are fine, the ones around greyroll look small and weak cause they're babies, greyroll herself is large and old so she's probably struggling to move
@fallen99972 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaperry2426 I think at least Greyoll is affected with rot, as well as dragons other than these of Greyoll. Not as affected as Ekzykes but still.
@joshuaperry24262 жыл бұрын
@@fallen9997 it's quite possibly but nothing about her indicates that she's been afflicted (neither visually nor in her breath) you could count her inability to move as indication of being afflicted but that's not enough. We see several healthy dragons in caelid, ekzykes is the only one confirmed to be rotting away
@fallen99972 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaperry2426 man, she actually looks like she's been afflicted with some disease, she's looking weak and dying (maybe old age, but I don't think so). Only disease we actually know is poison and Scarlet Rot (eventually madness and Death Blight).
@pustuleofyelough2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting note about Agheel and the lake he resides in.. is that the undead in the lake can be heard praying to him, in the hops that he’d burn them all away…
@cyberklashnikov30622 жыл бұрын
That's a nice grape
@GustyWizard Жыл бұрын
Just like he says in the first 2 minutes of the video!
@OtherMomo2 жыл бұрын
considering the direction Yura's...story...goes later in the game, its interesting that he brings up being "mad" [crazy] and "being burned alive" in his first lines of dialogue.
@ZomifiedHam2 жыл бұрын
Notable too that he says ‘mad OR wish to be burned’, the phrasing implies he wouldn’t think you mad for wanting to be burned alive
@OtherMomo2 жыл бұрын
@@ZomifiedHam well.considering the state of immortality everyone is stuck in, that's why all those nobles are.chillin out on the lake, hoping to.get incinerated out of existence
@vectorfox4782 Жыл бұрын
Yura wants to destroy the world as the Lord of the Frenzied Flame because he lost the love of his life. A fate that I too can relate too. So immensely tragic.
@Cheeszus Жыл бұрын
Si t
@SpringrazorAzrael Жыл бұрын
@@vectorfox4782 that's Shabriri, not Yura
@vincentcampbell83142 жыл бұрын
Really hope they add in a Dragon NPC in a DLC that we can talk to or ride to a new area or something
@bbbbKeJodddd2 жыл бұрын
If there's time travel shenanigans, best bet would be Lannseax in her human form.
@latel45442 жыл бұрын
@@bbbbKeJodddd Tbh I'd honestly like just a straight up talking dragon
@eldrileka16522 жыл бұрын
@@bbbbKeJodddd I would love to see Leyndell and especially the dragon cult in their prime. With Lansseax guiding them all as a priestess
@HanzoHatt2 жыл бұрын
I'd just hope they add a full body dragon type transformation with its own attack move set and a few special abilities. Just something more then the eyes
@latel45442 жыл бұрын
@@HanzoHatt Imagine if using all dragon hearts gave you a full magma wyrm transformation skill lmao
@HotStuff55162 жыл бұрын
I always thought the shape Placidusex takes when just floating before the fight was vaguely heart looking
@Witchking20242 жыл бұрын
I've loved dragons since I was itty bitty. I fell in love with the dragon spells. And the way they designed them was breath taking. I only wish we had an ending that could save them.
@aaronrowley14872 жыл бұрын
I love the Dragon spells as well. I am actually hoping they'll add more dragons to the DLC. I hope one has a poison breathe attack and it's a bit of a Longshot but one with blood flame breathe as well
@rjbennett28362 жыл бұрын
@@aaronrowley1487 dude new dragon weapons
@LeMargot2 жыл бұрын
Nah bro, it was breath giving
@alexanderjohnson2304 Жыл бұрын
Would love to explore dragon communion, dragon questlines where we can choose to help rather than harm them, and dragon npcs. I think it's silly not to, since it's revealed they can take human form and are intelligent beings.
@misslala1377 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes, age of the dragons!!!! Like, we had a fucking dungpie ending, why no age of the dragons?
@nicholashales78692 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for someone to do a lore about it. My boy ashen hollow never fails
@ZephyrusAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
All this time later and I'm STILL blown away every time I see Gransax, i can't imagine the horror of watching a dragon so enormous and strong fall upon the city in assault. I dont think any dragon boss in all of From games would be that insane,
@jamesnorman91602 жыл бұрын
The whole Dragon Communion thing goes to show that old chestnut from the Souls series: dragons are awesome and all, but please try not to become one, it isn't worth it. As some others have said, this just shows how Dragons are such an important part of this world, even if their importance may not be as ingrained as in Dark Souls, for instance. Interesting also that Adula made a knightly vow to Ranni, like some Trolls are knights of the Carian Royal Family. I also love the differences between the Ancient Dragons and the 'Modern' Dragons: The modern dragons are not covered in gravel stone but their hides are still stone-like and more bestial, and they can still put up a hell of a fight. But the gravel stone on their hearts proves the connection between them and the ancient line.
@jamessmells1232 жыл бұрын
Really like the ‘travel through the world’ method you’ve used here. More!
@Judge_of_Anubis052 жыл бұрын
So something I'm a bit confused about. The dragon lighting incantations that buff the tarnished are said to only be usable on those the dragons love yet our tarnished can use it no problem. So do the dragons "love" our tarnished or is this just a case of stolen power that no other was strong enough to just take and use before our tarnished? If they do love our tarnished they've got a funny way of showing it by always trying to give us the zap zap.
@santacatarinaball70912 жыл бұрын
You do steal the heart of multiple dragons
@Joyful_Traitor2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it is a power thing where they show their love to those who can either best them but not kill them or are powerful enough to kill them
@wesleywilcox88292 жыл бұрын
@@Joyful_Traitor that’s a fairly interesting theory and I think that makes a lot of sense. However I also think that another way to be loved by dragons is maybe protecting dragons. While we never see that in game (except maybe the beastmen) I think it makes sense.
@spectralassassin60302 жыл бұрын
I don't know the lore implications but in terms of gameplay, it's just so you can have the ability. You do a lot of things in game that, lore wise, you shouldn't be able to do. At the very least there would be grave consequences for those actions.
@GearShotgun2 жыл бұрын
I think its meant to be metaphorical rather than literal. From what we know of the Dragon Cult, Lansseax, and possibly other dragons, played an active role in its operation. So to say you were loved by dragons might be their way of saying that you'd earned enough of their favor to be taught or entrusted with their teachings.
@gwynimpostor2 жыл бұрын
0:02 "most powerful" i present to you a trumpet
@mauauauauaua142 жыл бұрын
yeah Placidusax's outer god might also be greater will, since his golden flame breath is similar to Elden Beast's golden fire breath attack. Maybe someone can even test if it deals holy damage as well
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
Cant be greater will as the dragons outer god is explicity said to have been forced to flee and placidusax awaits its return
@MKsukkiiMiso2 жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 His fleeing god is a vessel god like Marika, not a celestial entity like GW. (Yeah in JP clearly use separated words for these) in 1.00 confirmed that Farum Azula is GW’s
@GrimViridian Жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 it is though, their lightning is red because it's tinted with red gold like a lot of the old weapons, the dragon flesh you can see under the stone scales is gold, and most importantly you can find the elden ring symbol from when the dragons ruled in faram azula
@blazinglions95544 ай бұрын
@@MKsukkiiMiso so placidusax is like godfrey, both were dragonlord/elden lord, and godfreys vessel god is marika, placidusax's vessel god fled
@10_MILES_HIGH_2 жыл бұрын
I loved every dragon fight in this game, they all felt cinematic and fun. I actually like that their are loads of them because I love fighting them
@KyokujiFGC2 жыл бұрын
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Lansseax was probably Vyke's dragon waifu? Certainly sounds like they were more than just "friendly", especially with her spending a lot of time in human form.
@OWlsfordshire2 жыл бұрын
This is the ridiculous issue of them giving dragons human forms.
@spectralassassin60302 жыл бұрын
@@OWlsfordshire It's only a ridiculous issue if we choose to think of it that way. Far as I can tell, there's no lore that really hints at a deeper connection. It very well could have been a case of her just favoring him and nothing more.
@TheSmolPrince Жыл бұрын
@@OWlsfordshire Dragons in most mythologies were capable of shape shifting, and most fantasy universes also give them that ability. Take for example the Golden Dragons of the Witcher universe who are fully capable of claiming a human form. Even in D&D the oldest and most powerful dragons can shape shift into humans. It's not ridiculous, it's a unique take on the Dragons.
@ianperry49742 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is that placidusax is almost a reflection of the two fingers. He once had five heads, much like five fingers of a hand. As the elden lord, he would have acted as the "hand" of the greater will. Now, he has fallen away from the grace of gold. He's lost three of his heads, beaten and broken by the time we meet him. Just as the five fingers became only two. And the three fingers took on the chaos flame. It would be interesting to see the other three heads somewhere writhing about in protest to the God that placidusax once served, eh? As if three of the five heads wrenched themselves from their stumps and abandoned the elden lord, leaving him to die. My goodness. What a scary thought...
@epicterrariagamer79192 жыл бұрын
He had four heads as seen in the old lord talisman
@calebgraham33342 жыл бұрын
@@epicterrariagamer7919 what of his third stump? Fitting for a 5th head, unless...
@nut48292 жыл бұрын
@@calebgraham3334 ayo calm down
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
He never served the greater will nor would he have had its grace. Its explicitly stated that the dragons outer god was forced to flee and has not returned. The greater will was not forced to flee it abandoned the world to punish marika which wouldve came a long time after the dragons failed
@Skibbutz2 жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 the dragons worshipped the greater will, its explicitly obvious because they had an Elden lord and the Elden Ring.
@chrisp.93802 жыл бұрын
I don't think the undead nobles and commoners are tarnished. There are many different types of undead in this game because the concept of death has been warped for everyone, tarnished or not. The tarnished are specifically the army and followers of Godfrey who were divested of grace like Godfrey himself, sent away to die in wars outside the lands between, and after they died were resurrected specifically to return to the lands between and follow the guidance of grace. Surely not every undead person we see in the game was a part of Godfrey's army, I doubt the spirits of deer in the Mountaintops of the Giants, the Tibia Mariners, or the undead common folk digging away at ruins were a part of his army. They're just the various inhabitants of the land between living on in death. Regardless this is an awesome video, keep up the good work!
@TechPriest972 жыл бұрын
Compared to the rest of the series, the path of immortality being a magma Wyrm isn’t the worst fate You’re probably immortal, considering Theodorax is from the giant war You can live in magma and spew it, sure you can’t fly but eh You still have use of your hands and arms And you get a sick looking greatsword, while being a several ton, scales like armor wyrm
@spectralassassin60302 жыл бұрын
Definitely not the worst fate but still an unfortunate one.
@foxyloxyBABE Жыл бұрын
If you retain your human wits then maybe it aint so bad but the problem is you lose it all. Youre stuck in a giant lizard thing and cant escape the eternal torment and hunger, not remembering your formerself
@mike36672 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! Love your work. Time to get cozy and learn something about dragons.
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
=D
@spider-queen2 жыл бұрын
oh my god I love your lore videos, I learned so much in this that I haven't heard anywhere else yet, thanks for your Elden Ring coverage! (also as an aside thank you for your Lore to Sleep To series I literally put it on every night, you have a really great voice for it and I know they must take a lot of time to make but I'd love to see more so I can expand my sleepy library!)
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you're too kind! =D And don't worry, all of my scripts make it to the pile of Lore To Sleep Videos I have planned! =)
@peenyyt49214 ай бұрын
the dlc has some cool dragon content, a sequel to this would be sick
@Sartanikus2 жыл бұрын
woah, Placidusax has TWO heads almost symbolizing the TWO fingers. And we also see that he possibly had FIVE heads and a hand has a total of FIVE fingers...idk i just think theres something to that in relation to the fingers and greater will.
@raptorxrise53862 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like the idea that intelligent life is connected in some way to both the greater will and the frenzied falme as the two and three fingers together would make a full hand. And its said that five fingers on a hand symbolize intelligence so the idea that maybe placidusax once ruled for two outer gods is an incredibly cool idea
@finger32152 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Dragon's lore was something which the community wasnt really talking about.
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, dude! If there are dragons, I'm gonna cover them! xD
@ragna64102 жыл бұрын
Dragons. The best fantasy has to offer.
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@thenewguyinred Жыл бұрын
In every Soulsborne game dragons are always never portrayed as purely malicious creatures but as a tragic dying species long past their golden age. Makes wanna comfort the poor beasts, without getting burned alive of course.
@jameslafleur68422 жыл бұрын
Incredible video (and map for dragonhunters)! Also, I was today years old when I realised WHY Miquella's needle can only be used in Placidusax's room. The Frenzied Flame is in you and won't LET you use the needle. But in the eye of the storm beyond time, the frenzied flame is stilled or cut off from you. Or maybe it's as simple as time has stopped for you in the outside world. Basically, I think it's the only place the FF can't control you.
@actualteddybear8912 жыл бұрын
The Ancient Dragons are some of my favorite enemies in any game. Their power is fearsome and beautiful. Truly an epic foe.
@Zhtrik2 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man, I see the word Dragon in the Title I Click the Like Button
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
You and me both! xD
@Lokheim2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, if you do become a magma-wyrm, you retain the intelligence enough to use swords and you get magma breath. That’s neat.
@andreasjensen58692 жыл бұрын
Something to note about Placidusax is that it might still live outside time even after defeat by the player. The player also defeats marika's shadow Gurranq inside Farum Azula and he still ives. the only difference seem to be that he was allways on the outside while Placidusax is only inside. (also that you likely can't effect things outside time, just experience them. but that's up to interpretation)
@Necrotaku9992 жыл бұрын
totally not, placidusax always inhabited the storm beyond time, so its not possible to find him in another time period outside farum azula, maliketh presumably moved quite a lot,
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
@@Necrotaku999 you find the placidusax from your time in the wall lifeless as can be seen from the great bridge before maliketh. Time shenanigans leave the door open to any number of possibilities. While i dont believe the above theory myself it certainly cant be dismissed anymore then most
@Necrotaku9992 жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 yeah i have my doubts thats placidusax, while thr heads and wings match, there are simply too many, i counted like 7 wings and 4 heads
@danieljohnston97232 жыл бұрын
@@UnholyWrath3277 wheres this
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
@@danieljohnston9723 go to the great bridge turn around and youll see him
@thekris43782 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed learning about these dragons. I’ve probably gotten about half way through the game and haven’t played in months. I’ve finally beaten about six of them, but I remembered another dragon you didn’t mention. I don’t remember the name, but it was under ground next to a huge skeleton seated statue. It also breathed frost damage.
@crazyfriend23882 жыл бұрын
There should be an Age of the Ancients/Age of Dragons/whatever cool name you can give it where you obtain every Dragon Communion spell and rule over the Lands Between as an ancient dragon mimicking the design of Elden Beast. Alternatively, you could have a different kind of ending with never using Dragon Communion spells and settling for the red lightning of the ancient dragons, taking the throne as a champion of the ancient dragons, spreading the draconic cult across the Lands Between
@alexanderjohnson2304 Жыл бұрын
Would be dope - the lore is there and it would be cool to explore it further, with a unique ending(s).
@crazyfriend2388 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderjohnson2304 maybe a Tarnished that gained the favor of Placidusax? A Radagon and Elden Beast relationship?
@Discount_Jesus Жыл бұрын
@@crazyfriend2388 Or maybe an ending granted by doing a hypothetical Lansseax quest line? We already know she got along well with humans, so maybe she and the tarnished could become the new storm lords and get rid of the two fingers?
@viperleviathan9021 Жыл бұрын
I’m just now realizing the dark irony of Yura saying “unless you’re mad, or want to be burned alive”
@lindaeriksson12082 жыл бұрын
It seems like evolving hands with 5 fingers is a symbols of higher inteligence. Reminds me of the endidng that was removed from the game.
@shayposting2 жыл бұрын
That was an April Fools joke lmao
@filippogrimaldi72282 жыл бұрын
Bro, the "Age Absolute" ending was an April Fool's joke
@metal_gear_rayquaza89142 жыл бұрын
If anyone deserves to be Elden Lord, I say it should be the chad who slept with a dragon. All hail Vyke the Dragonlayer
@DaRealMoogyBoogy2 жыл бұрын
Great video, constantly captivating, good narration, thorough explanation of each dragon, whilst highlighting each of their uniqueness, loved every minute of it
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! =D
@babzm.16662 жыл бұрын
Man. That outro after Placidusax’s section actually gave me a chill. That was great
@ctyoro50862 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, I'm a fan of the ancient dragons 👍
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Me too! =D
@rainofmadness83562 жыл бұрын
My tarnished: Dragon cursed, Blood cursed, Inhabited by frenzied flame, walking around with a rune of death. "What's it gonna be? What's it gonna be?"
@o6fade8002 жыл бұрын
I remember when I went to the lake and was like “ ohhh ez zombies to kill” then Agheel flew down , like bro I was soooo scared you had no idea😂
@gabe37082 жыл бұрын
I think that if the worship of the ancient dragons did not conflict with belief in the Erd Tree, and the fact that many items involving dragons are imbued with gold, it would make sense that the Greater Will was the outer god once connected with the ancient dragons. If the dragon lord was awaiting a return of the god, and they had interacted before, it would make sense that the Greater Will would take a physical form similar to a dragon when interacting with those in the lands between. The Greater Will had not returned to the Lands Between since leaving the ancient dragons, hence why it takes the form of a dragon like entity when we fight it following Radagon.
@jsteele071892 жыл бұрын
Extremely high quality - thank you for making this
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! =)
@epistimonkapetanios Жыл бұрын
I feel so sad to have killed Greyoll, after I learnt about her. I hope I could revive her. I am even willing to give back the 100.000 runes, if I could, and the 5 dragon hearts.
@michaeledmunds7056 Жыл бұрын
She was at the end of her rope anyway
@crowb0i Жыл бұрын
The Dragonkin Soldiers always fascinated me as well
@mistermaxie64872 жыл бұрын
Call me a dumb fandom kid or something, but Vyke and Lansseax were always such badass characters to me that I ended up creating my main original Elden Ring character to be the son of the pair and a half-dragon prince. The idea of a Tarnished being close to a powerful ancient dragon that guards the Altus Plateau, only to lose his mind and be consumed by the frenzied flame is such a cool idea.
@waltuh111212 жыл бұрын
It's always cool to create a backstory to our nameless characters
@Mr_Gray_1995 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I love the dragons in this game. It’s my first souls game and I’m in love
@christopherzirkel17922 жыл бұрын
The facts about those dragons and wyrms are very interesting.😊 I like dragons myself. I even got their incantations and the dragon breaths.
@Ragnarok_1218 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what armor Ashen is wearing at 10:00? I dont recognize it and i think it looks awesome
@Piplup38882 жыл бұрын
Ya know.. It feels like im the bad guy for killing Agheel now. He's just a dragon killing undead that want to die. DamB
@ErDw Жыл бұрын
By far my favorite lore video of elden ring tbh
@bluegrave43762 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm definitely gonna use dragon spells my next playthrough
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
I love themed builds! And a dragon one is just chef's kiss!
@MortonFMurphy2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing a dragon themed Str/Faith build on my second playthtough and it has been great fun.
@MortonFMurphy2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't hurt that Rotten Breath is so good
@amarjo3512 жыл бұрын
Scarlett Rot Is the FIRST/ONLY ability you need.
@germanwojtek35762 жыл бұрын
As soon as I discovered the dragon spells I knew I was going cleric/dragon Paladin build . Wouldnt trade it for anything else . It feels good to be a tarnished that commands the power of dragons . Elden ring really gives you the tools to be formidable , even on more difficult playthroughs .
@octavianpopescu47762 жыл бұрын
This is something I always found inconsistent about this series. Ok, so Adula protects Ranni and I'm on her team, so... why are we even fighting if we're on the same side? I get Blaidd or the Preceptor what's-his-name... puppet guy... Seluvis? Something like that... but what's the deal with Adula? I got the sense that I had to fight some enemies only because the game said so, even though I didn't really have an option to say no or even talk to those enemies and decide for myself whether to fight them or not.
@Deliar122 жыл бұрын
It's not Ranni, but the Dark Moon that majes her attack us i think. When you kill Rennala in the second faze, her look-alike speaks as if it's her daugther that attacks, and it can summon a "sworn dragon" as her figther. I thinks it's the Dark Moon, or maybe the Bright Moon that attempts to get rid of us. Maybe the same Moon affect the glintstone infested dragons?
@nightscout99792 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it always felt like Ranni sent Adula to die for no reason, like some twisted fantasy of a knight fighting a dragon to reach a princess.
@saartnomsky4523 Жыл бұрын
not sure why but this video was actually amazing, and left a unique impression.
@Jopeymessmusic2 жыл бұрын
Interesting detail about Partysnax's fingers. I never twigged that about him tbh. Wonder if he was once a prehistoric beast man that partook in dragon communion? And the result was that kind of transformation as opposed to the magma wyrm stuff of modern ER dragons?
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
Smarag kicked my ass so hard after I snuck passed and stole the Glintstone key that I let it have my measly runes and went about my day.
@ashtonfeatherstoneandersen47832 жыл бұрын
Remember Seath? Remember Guyra? I hope these two primordial dragon deities exist somewhere beneath the surface of Elden Ring lore.
@toshi74292 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hope I get to meet Artorias and the moon presence. And I can't wait for the Chosen Hollow to show up and fight Wolf with an Armor Core.
@waltuh111212 жыл бұрын
@@toshi7429 you may be joking, but I think all souls games are part of a multiverse connected by the trees we can see in most of the games, because there's always Patches and a Moonlight Greatsword
@DjDizzy2162 жыл бұрын
This is the best lore video on the dragons I've seen and I've seen a lot of ER lore videos. A lot of effort must have went into this, the wording is poetic at times. Subbed.
@ASaltyGhost Жыл бұрын
The moment I saw Placidusax lingering in the air with two heads pointed up, I immediately made the connection to the pose the Two Fingers take when communing with The Greater Will. It makes me think that, perhaps, Placidusax was "beaten" into submission and shaped into a pseudo-Two Fingers. His heads were ripped off to strip him of his power and force him to bend to the Greater Will. My other idea is that he once had five heads, a lordly number that was also symbolic of the original hand. But when the Three Fingers were deemed heretical and ripped off, so too were three of his heads.
@DJDragon12062 жыл бұрын
Love the game, love the dragons! Thank you very much for the lore my friend!
@voodoorecon80702 жыл бұрын
I love how comprehensive this video is. Well deserved thumbs up.
@nyx28892 жыл бұрын
moral of the story: instead of eating dragon hearts to become dragons, or as powerful as a dragon. make them your friends, or waiffus
@emperorpalpatine2957 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think those who became Wyrms were those who failed to fully merge and control the powers growing within them. As we see with the Bodies of Wyrms such as their wings are badly deformed. So if the player has full control over the dragon incantations as well as learning the powers of other large figures such as Placidusax there's no telling what will happen to them when they start to transform. Chances are they'll become a dragon far more terrifying than Placidusax or Gransax. I really hope they give more insight on becoming a dragon in the DLC
@oogwaytheotakuclips43702 жыл бұрын
Give us more my apprentice, for we need the lore
@rasenpapi56532 жыл бұрын
everyone talks about agheel being the first dragon they met, and for good reason but on my playthrough the first dragon i met was ekzykes. and doing almost no damage to him and realizing how outclassed i was has got to be one of my favourite moments
@madambutterfly19972 жыл бұрын
Dragons are so beautiful
@TheOneTaboo2 жыл бұрын
That closing statement with the music. pure epicness
@joshrakestraw33192 жыл бұрын
I like to view Placidusax's role as Elden Lord in the ancient world similar to Godzilla's role in being protector of Earth. Placi acts more like an apex predator monarch, who simply probably exists as a symbol of power, order, and peace and probably didn't actually do much except probably work directly with his God and the other powerful dragons. The ancient world was probably more simple and didn't need complex governments, different kingdoms, borders, taxes, lawd and everyone or all species were likely treated fairly. So basically the dragons just kinda existed, kept the peace, and any smaller less powerful beings probably inevitable worshiped or built their belief systems around the influence of the dragons. I could be wrong, but that's the picture I got painted of the ancient world when dragons ruled; they probably didn't get aggressive until after all the drama that happened and they got kicked to the curb Also, doesn't it say somewhere in the game that Placidusax was a kind and fair Lord? I could also be wrong, someone please let me know if it talks about him in a positive light. I mean "placid" is in his name which literally means calm or peaceful, or not easy to get upsetted so Placi was probably a super nice guy that didn't deserve his fate
@pieoverlord2 жыл бұрын
4:50 Yeah, that's because Adula pushed past her limits and went into Super Dragon God Super Dragon (Evolved). (also had to double check the wiki to be sure I wasn't going crazy and yes, he's pronouncing Lansseax like a madman)
@curts78012 жыл бұрын
Also have to call out the Leyndell pronunciation. The Y doesn’t take so much emphasis, as we hear from Gideon.
@Midorima2 жыл бұрын
Is there a proper pronunciation for Lansseax? Very cool name, but I do struggle with it a bit myself haha.
@curts78012 жыл бұрын
@@Midorima lan sax. There you go.
@madambutterfly19972 жыл бұрын
I would imagine so that’s the price of trying to appropriate the power of dragons for human usage
@gr33dl0cknein32 жыл бұрын
Fortissax: "Behold! My dual Red Lightning Stake attack!" Placidusax: "O B S E R V E..."
@Jetstreamsamsbiggestglazer2 жыл бұрын
Me with my mimic tear with pest threads:No you observe old man
@iwanwafflezonmysyrup2 жыл бұрын
i can only hope the DLC is focused on dragons and we get more ice lightning stuff 🙏🏻
@aarojpoll11 ай бұрын
This is what I love about Elden ring The Way they use enemy placement and item drops to tell story like that magma worm that gives you all the hearts that the is able to put together that that was actually a giant that turned into one of those things
@JustAFatherlyNerd2 жыл бұрын
Wish we had a Paarthurnax in this game
@InanisNihil2 жыл бұрын
dont forget alduin and the dragonborn.. an miraak lmao all the dragons would be dead and "eaten" soon as we start a new game cause both DB and Miraak done killed them all... lets add Hermeaous mora too... 😂 bruh elden ring universe would die... xD
@kingdomcome39142 жыл бұрын
Or another Ancient Dragon like the one from Dark Souls 2.
@FlymanMS2 жыл бұрын
Placidusax is definitely one of the most awesome dragons depicted, both visual and lore wise
@OblivionsAbyss2 жыл бұрын
Gransaxx doesn't rival greyroll he is much bigger than her
@danieleckert5853 Жыл бұрын
Speaking about placidusax's looks, I think it's also interesting to mention that, even tho he is flying sometimes, when he's on the ground, his belly also touches the ground. Just like the magma worms
@mageninja32612 жыл бұрын
The dragons are fun enemies, but still darkeater midir is THE best fromsoft dragon fight
@UnholyWrath32772 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree midir is best boy
@silverlyder Жыл бұрын
0:58 never met that guy. welcome to elden ring, the game where you most likely missed half of the things
@stitchedbyiron Жыл бұрын
And then a random tarnished killed them all
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
22:30 I don’t think that’s what’s happening. I’m pretty sure you’re not going back in time but to the “place outside time” where the DragonLord resides.
@-Erebus2 жыл бұрын
Never knew yura was even a thing
@bennythejet502611 ай бұрын
i hope the dlc introduces some type of holy dragon it would be sick to spew golden flame and maybe it can have a little pope hat
@pebrockk2 жыл бұрын
The "Flying Dragon" title never made sense to me. They're all flying dragons.
@REAPER3fitty2 жыл бұрын
Wyrms aren't. They have dragon hearts.
@pebrockk2 жыл бұрын
Wyrms aren't real dragons. Next.
@Jetstreamsamsbiggestglazer2 жыл бұрын
@@pebrockk All wryms are dragons but not all dragons are wryms read a book
@sablebeats2 жыл бұрын
the best lore videos turn into tutorials that show u new things and new processes. wonderfully done!
@JQMusic52 жыл бұрын
Great video, once again. Now a “sleep to” version please :)
@TheAshenHollow2 жыл бұрын
Haha, all scripts find themselves in the "Sleep Video" pile, don't worry!
@Vugen18 Жыл бұрын
I cant get enough of lore like this... masterpiece. thanks for the video!