1:15 i appreciate that, good old fashion fight ettiquette 👌👌👌
@claudias47932 жыл бұрын
Yeah I pretty much just have to completely play around the moon veil and be passive anytime I’m fighting it. Good counters would be using barrier of gold for magic dmg negation and using a shield with carian retaliation for parries or the erdtree shield. Most of the people who use the moon veil are brain dead so as long as you don’t get greedy and dodge with care it’s ez w’s
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Carian retaliation grants the glintblades when used against the Moonveil weapon art, but you still get hit by the art, which means still taking 800 damage. I don't know if it's just latency, but I've tested it quite a bit and that's how it goes. There's a few spells which don't get absorbed by the Carian retaliation and still hit you despite being parried. The frustrating thing about moonveil is that you just have to fail to dodge it once and you're pretty much dead. And it's quite easy to hit if you wait until your opponent is locked in an attack animation before you use the weapon art.
@claudias47932 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas64 Yeah it's rough. I have no doubt that both it and the RoB will get nerfed next patch or the one after.
@Happygg62 жыл бұрын
@@claudias4793 this aged like milk. Moonveil amd ROB have undergone nerfs since this comment and their both still broken asf
@maniacalmurderer41232 жыл бұрын
I love how just at the click of a button half my health can be gone and they still allowed to get dodge s after the move
@eclips_total2215 Жыл бұрын
fr
@donkey9113 Жыл бұрын
the fact that he one wielded the moonveil makes it even better
@jordanbrown3816 Жыл бұрын
I think a good way to nerf moon veil would be to take away the ridiculous stagger it inflicts, also would make it more risky for the user
@Person-tz1tk Жыл бұрын
or make it slower so it's easer to dodge, maybe even rework it to not be unsheathe with extendo range.
@Crow-nc1oo2 жыл бұрын
I see more rivers of blood than I see Moonveil
@rafaelmhurley2 жыл бұрын
The fact it comes out as fast as beastial sling
@Swagster23we552 жыл бұрын
Dodge right or left for the vertical or heavy dodge back for the horizontal or light
@Keepayoungrichmind2 жыл бұрын
You was on roll until the end 😂😂😂
@alejandrorodriguez33762 жыл бұрын
When they go in with rivers and tbag you because they think they're good 🤡
@RedMaitreya Жыл бұрын
If you had a whip or jellyfish shield the fight would of gone differently
@anthonygriffin84212 жыл бұрын
damn that damage. just have to roll into it
@w8mare2 жыл бұрын
the problem is not the moonveil, the problem is the abuse of all weaponart in this game... what need of spamming weapon art 3 time in a row?
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
I do agree with that. I think the issue is that the developers obviously want weapon arts to be usable often and not so expensive that you can only use them once or twice with a full FP bar. But when you have a game where weapons do massive damage by default, the weapon arts end up doing really high damage also, because they need to be more than the weapon's standard attack. That's my thoughts anyway.
@w8mare2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas64 yes, of course weapon arts should do more damage than normal attacks, but it should also cost the player a lot more in terms of fp and stamina and time of play. if the ''costs'' are almost the same, then it is obvious that everyone spams, instead of thinking about ''what is the best atk for this situation''
@AeroFlix4D2 жыл бұрын
This game looks really fun.
@TommieTheCommie2 жыл бұрын
It is extremely fun
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 Жыл бұрын
You know if you're gonna name yourself after a character. I'd expect to see at least a little resemblance
@imania53732 жыл бұрын
why u dont refill hp with flask? is it prohibited during a duel?
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
It is. Since the original dark souls on the PS3, there has been a duel etiquette. You bow to each other before the duel. No drinking flasks. (If the other player breaks the rule, you may as well heal too). 1v1 only. Allowing the other player to use buffs has always been a bit hit and miss. Some people say yes, and other people say that using buffs at all is unfair. Likewise, the wondrous physick is quite hotly debated as to whether or not you should use it. Unfortunately the etiquette has largely fallen by the wayside because Elden Ring reached an audience ten times the size of dark souls.
@10kgTNTequivalent Жыл бұрын
say what you want but mooveil user timed his aoe attacks 2 time super correct
@engincandas1748 Жыл бұрын
2:29 fu now
@DJPickee2 жыл бұрын
god damn that transient is strong
@legendslaboratory6820 Жыл бұрын
Moonviel is OP even after the recent nerf. It’s a mainstay at lvl 150 arena. I use it myself because it’s just too good. Not the players fault that the game is unbalanced. Can’t blame them for using what’s strong. They wanna win. Just like you
@ezpznoob8092 Жыл бұрын
recent nerf???? its not good anymore
@Person-tz1tk Жыл бұрын
@@ezpznoob8092 did you see how fast it countered skill? it still hits like a freight train and moves at the speed of light. in may ways it is the ultimate weapon.
@ezpznoob8092 Жыл бұрын
@@Person-tz1tk meh rapier with quickstep is much harder to beat
@Person-tz1tk Жыл бұрын
@@ezpznoob8092 but that's a combo of two things made by players, Moonveil doesn't require you to make the combo that allows you to destroy people.
@merlijn2472 жыл бұрын
i dont know whats worse bestial sling or moonveil
@joenu7s2 жыл бұрын
moonveil by a long shot, sling barely does any damage and moonveil comes out just as fast
@Famer92 жыл бұрын
bestial sling is based, i don't even use it, its very punishable but in good hands is very anoying, munbeil doesn't require skill to use
@kallmeej91062 жыл бұрын
@@Famer9 beastial sling can't be dodged on reaction and with how esy it is to spam it's literally one of te most free things in the game. The only reason it isn't busted like the moonveil is the damage is low.
@Famer92 жыл бұрын
@@kallmeej9106 bruh i always dodge it, u just have bad reflexes
@kallmeej91062 жыл бұрын
@@Famer9 and you're illiterate. I said it's not possible to dodge on reaction which with this games net code is true. Predicting it is still more than posible
@mreboric84062 жыл бұрын
I just do bloodhound step with light weapons and I eat nearly everyone. Almost no one has parry equipped anymore because it makes it too cumbersome to use a weapon art and a parry and everyone want to use weapon arts. It used to be in dark souls every damn pvp match was a parry fest and that just does not play well with my too fast to run from pvp but now that nearly no one has parry I can just destroy everything with fast attacks.
@blogges16602 жыл бұрын
stop using bhs if u want to be taken seriously by any decent pvp player
@ac7gabrielemartini8042 жыл бұрын
Stop using bhs because if use it you re not good at all and people Will start to quit instead of fighting an immortal anime character
@megalinc2 жыл бұрын
Bhs 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@xen44252 жыл бұрын
Damn the amount of salt here is hilarious
@JoeyCentral2 жыл бұрын
@@blogges1660 Imagine actually being a serious PVPer?
@GlorytotheImperium Жыл бұрын
I think its possible to negate this art with the erdtree sentinels shield ash of war,no?
@Karak-_- Жыл бұрын
If you time it well, then yes.
@zeronime284 Жыл бұрын
Transient moonblade is one of the fastest skill with no tell and hard to react at close range so it's hard to time
@ktskis1680 Жыл бұрын
At the end ... moonveil faster than bestial sling
@MortalSoul07252 жыл бұрын
What’s your build? It looks awesome
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
Crucible tree armour Rulers mask Right hand 1: Winged Scythe Left hand 1: Twinbird kite shield with Carian retaliation Right hand 2: Cipher Patas Left hand 2: Clawmark seal Right hand 3: Golden Epitaph I've since moved on to using the golden epitaph in my left hand, and coded sword in my right hand to dual wield them. It's very strong! I believe my stats at the time of this video were something like: 40 Vigor 25 Mind 35 Endurance 25 strength 20 Dexterity 80 faith
@thespectator2976 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic game, but i coudnt play it, it was wayyyyyy to hard for me :) with mouse and keyboard.
@zeronime284 Жыл бұрын
They travel in group so why they fight with honor
@Strongviking_enrico Жыл бұрын
Moonveil or not defeat is defeat. A good player never blames the weapon
@donkey9113 Жыл бұрын
did you see how he smoked the first to guys?
@headhunter58242 жыл бұрын
lady maria ? holy fuck that was me
@sir_agito77052 жыл бұрын
nah, you can get better. also bring carian retaliation to counter L2 Moonveil
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
I actually do use carian retaliation. I've mentioned it somewhere else, either in the comments here or a different video - but the issue with retaliation is that a lot of the arts will still hit you through the retaliation. The transient moonlight won't be absorbed, but you'll still get the glintblades. Meaning that you still take 700 damage. My biggest issue with moonveil is that it has such high damage and speed, and such a low cost compared to similar damage abilities. You basically need to make a single mistake to die to it.
@Indigoelk2 жыл бұрын
Get good
@basically_noworth17212 жыл бұрын
Bro what is that armor I want so bad😭
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
That's the crucible tree armour! You get it from beating Crucible Knight Siluria in the Deeproot Depths! The helmet is the Ruler's mask and you can find it on a body Northwest of the abandoned coffin grace, in Altus Plateau!
@obviousaimbot3056 Жыл бұрын
Moonviel pvp lobbies = average souls spammer
@Chillburger2 жыл бұрын
ELDEN RING PvP - It's always a "weapon that killed me"!!! FROMSOFT #BAN WEAPONS THAT KILL ME OMG
@hungrywolven Жыл бұрын
The amount of these players for some stupid ah reason is increasing drastically and I hate it
@joenu7s2 жыл бұрын
why are people here complaining about bestial sling lmfaoooo
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
People like to complain about whatever they don't use, aha. If you're an int user or rely on long animations, bestial sling is likely your worst enemy because its only real use is interrupting low poise animations. That's my take anyway. I still don't think it's overpowered at all, or anywhere near as cheesy as a lot of the intelligence/self buff builds most players use. It's just one of the few viable faith abilities that work.
@joenu7s2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas64 intelligence users when they have to be smart with how they play the game instead of spamming one spell/weapon art
@mxngo65482 жыл бұрын
he didnt even use it lol
@Lucas642 жыл бұрын
The last guy destroyed me with one haha
@spaghettisouls20252 жыл бұрын
Just gotta wait a bit
@shinoxsage2 жыл бұрын
Buddy you ever try watching a video til the end?
@blogges16602 жыл бұрын
mans complaining about Moonveil one of the easiest to dodge wapons while using bestial sling lmao
@LaughDonk2 жыл бұрын
Both are easy to dodge but at least bestial doesnt deal 70% of your Health
@cwapisme2 жыл бұрын
@@LaughDonk yeah i think bestial is just more anointing