Marika replaced Vader and Omni man as the worst fictional parent
@prasadnithianandam76146 күн бұрын
At least vader saved his kid at the end. Marika has no redeeming qualities and is just power hungry
@p.istvan87446 күн бұрын
At least Omni Man and Vader had love for their kids.
@kaptenzoom79205 күн бұрын
you do not watch a lot of shows or play a lot of games if you think marika is bad
@p.istvan87445 күн бұрын
@@kaptenzoom7920 True that, from star wars alone Valkorion comes to mind by straight up being way way worse.
@wilhelm43215 күн бұрын
@@kaptenzoom7920 I think it's hard to name someone worse
@Vadikus24246 күн бұрын
"Those stripped of the Grace of God shall all meet death. In the embrace of Messssmer'sss flame" MAKE IT STOOPPP
@magnushaveland25263 күн бұрын
Isn't it Gold? As is the Golden Order
@catt505723 сағат бұрын
grace of gold lol
@catt505723 сағат бұрын
when I got impaled by his spear and then he speaks this line....I knew it's gonna be like that MS. blade of Miquella
@Vadikus242422 сағат бұрын
Ah yea, i didn't know why I typed god. Thanks for pointing it out
@catt505722 сағат бұрын
@@Vadikus2424 nah bro we all made mistakes.....especially the panic roll when facing messmer💀💀
@featdirty11276 күн бұрын
“Mother…Marika…a curse…upon thee!”
@jamesnorman91604 күн бұрын
Wild that despite staying loyal to her wishes after all this time, he finally curses her in death.
@AdriusFrostglare3 күн бұрын
He should. He performed horrible acts devoid of honor and glory, stayed as ordered through who knows how long, and in the end, she hypocritically props a being that would have been no different from all those he brutalized to be his ruler. Messmer never had any agency, saw no purpose beyond one he was born and indoctrinated in, and he amounted to nothing but another sacrifice to prop Marika's design despite giving himself wholly to her.
@miklosz41623 күн бұрын
I like to interpret Messmer's outrage that the tarnished was chosen as Lord as an example of his hatred of himself. I think the greatest tragedy of this character is that Messmer thinks he deserved to be abandoned by his mother by being the imperfect son of a perfect goddess, entwined with (in his eyes) blasphemous snakes and fire. It's easy to imagine his anger when he sees that his mother's new favorite is a being who is as much, if not more, imperfect than he is in the eyes of the Golden Order. Maybe that's what made him realize in the end, after sacrificing his grace granted by Marika and casting his soul into the darkness to fight the pretender to the title of Elden Lord, that his mother would never truly love him, no matter how devoted he is to her and her order, and so he curses her with his dying breath.
@g10by13 сағат бұрын
he is still sorry for doing it, i feel sorry for him
@khoailang94707 күн бұрын
I love how Messmer's phase 1 ost, which starts at 0:21, sounds a lot like a darker and more woeful version of the main theme/ Radagon's theme (listen carefully to the motif). It reflects his character perfectly
@blamepluto73087 күн бұрын
like father like son?
@SnapDragon04206 күн бұрын
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who heard that too 😭
@BaldinBlack5 күн бұрын
@@blamepluto7308 Like Father and Mother
@shaktosh5245 күн бұрын
@@BaldinBlack Given how how convoluted the Marika/Radagon situation, let's just say like parent like son 😅
@PhuckChumster4 күн бұрын
I love how you've commented this on almost every single video that appears when you search messmer
@mediocremason4 күн бұрын
You were magnificent, Messmer. I shall never forget you for as long as I live.
@dinorex34643 күн бұрын
FromSoftware subverting all expectations once again. Messmer, who we all thought was this absolute sadistic and blood-thirsty demon, ends up revealing himself to be just a son who was born cursed and became a monster just to make sure people had someone to focus their hate on so that his mother could rise to power undisturbed. And once she got what she wanted, she erased every single trace of him from history and banished him in the Shadow Realm forever, where he was known as a monster and nothing else, which forced him to embrace this just to have something to live for. One of the most tragic characters in Elden Ring.
@featdirty1127Күн бұрын
At this point I’m convinced that all the demigods (bar Miquella and Godrick) are just victims of Marika’s cruel crusade for power. Messmer is probably the most screwed over however. Sure the Omen twins got locked below the capital, but at least they weren’t forced into an honourless crusade against a people who did no wrong,purely because you were born cursed
@everett818Күн бұрын
@@featdirty1127nah, the Hornsent definitely did a lot of wrong. They tortured and stuffed all of the Shamans from Marika's village into pots just because they viewed themselves as superior. I kinda understand why Marika wanted them all dead.
@hearmth66183 күн бұрын
This guy is a hot mess mer
@natethebass-man28696 күн бұрын
"MESSMER! FOE OF MY BELOVED PEOPLE! IN VENGANCE FOR THE FLAMES, MY BLADE I WIELD!"
@sirflapfla975 күн бұрын
That voice actor nailed it
@poggeromegalol87515 күн бұрын
probably the hardest line ive heard in elden ring, he delivers it so fantastically
@gabrielh95245 күн бұрын
@poggeromegalol8751 yeah the npcs in this dlc are great Igon was the first i did and his hatred for blayve is crazy
@iwishihadgoodinternet77664 күн бұрын
Yeah I got hyped with him. Hornsent ftw
@marinasea174 күн бұрын
@@poggeromegalol8751 I'm caught between him and Igon screaming his lungs out at Bayle.
@SlavinRagnavoire7 күн бұрын
nobody : messmer : mongrel intruder...
@VietDang-yk1yt4 күн бұрын
up there with “ah another dogged contender”
@Play2earnJosephroth420Күн бұрын
Hahahahahahahah 🤣👍👌✌✌✨✨😎
@Play2earnJosephroth420Күн бұрын
🌹
@just_cthulhu34472 сағат бұрын
@@VietDang-yk1yt"ah, another dog..*fight starts*
@cyber_cube19177 күн бұрын
As painful as the fight is, it was one of the best
@smiechuj75345 күн бұрын
wouldnt call it painful at all. Not even slightly as overtuned bullshit as last one
@aderaattori325 күн бұрын
@@smiechuj7534 Ye this boss felt hard but very fair. Best DLC boss so far.
@Bro-dot-5 күн бұрын
@@smiechuj7534overtuned are you even at scardutree blessing level 18-20? The final boss of elden ring should be the hardest in the game.
@sudanemamimikiki15274 күн бұрын
Gaius is still the king of bullshit@@smiechuj7534
@calamatuz4 күн бұрын
Messmer and Bayle are the best of the dlc
@somlaire5 күн бұрын
The Messmer Eyes in Phase 2 Look Like The Undead Curse of Dark Souls!
@puzzleheaded61953 күн бұрын
Nice catch
@gamerdud317 күн бұрын
Fight was up there with Gael, simply incredible.
@herojdb-85836 күн бұрын
Best Boss in this DLC
@BlacklistedSoup6 күн бұрын
hes so good
@GravitonLance5 күн бұрын
@@herojdb-8583Bayle was also top tier
@yab31465 күн бұрын
Better
@Chkkk82934 күн бұрын
As someone that are not the biggest fan of gael Messmer is much better(The fight at least)
@JuanCarlos-ch8ix5 күн бұрын
2:24 this part reminds me of the duel of fates
@tonywilliams62946 күн бұрын
Imagine Messmer as an summoned Ally against an Invading Melina (frenzied route)
@zbfcomp5 күн бұрын
I love the musical references to the fight against Radagon and Elden Beast and the main theme
@crizpacito5 күн бұрын
bro they cooked so hard with the music, in legit every area or boss. none are bad
@jordannickles6114Күн бұрын
Marika really be out here fighting Gwyn for the “worst parent ever” title
@TheCropwner7 күн бұрын
One hell of a fight
@austin0_bandit057 күн бұрын
My ass is still gaping after that one
@MorgaTheOmen6 күн бұрын
So i was fighting Mesmer with my friend watching, he was beating my a*s in front of my friend and as soon my friend left the call, the run after that I finally beat him. Like Mesmer wasn't gonna let me have this victory in front of any witnesses💀. Best boss in Elden ring for now.
@chrisspyroman5 күн бұрын
What a tragic figure Messmer is... Cursed from birth, taking it upon himself to be the object of fear, hatred, all so that it wouldn't fall on others, he hated his curse, his position, but he did it because he loved his mother and believed in her goals... and how did she reward his devotion? His love for her? She discarded him, once she had no use for him. Just like she did with everyone else.... There's a reason why her other self(Radagon) is the one whom was universally beloved by all of his children and genuinely tried to keep everyone together,even the downtrodden (just like what Golden Order was supposed to be, like Miriel said,all things can be conjoined). Marika created a golden age,built on blood,but then she fucked over every single person who helped her built it and, she shattered that golden age herself, because suddenly everyone needed to struggle... Because??? Well, no matter. At the very least, we can correct her mistakes. Goldmask was right,the problem are gods no better than men
@omgroflgamer20105 күн бұрын
Because Ranni showed everyone the flaw of Marika's world. With destined death banished, yet her own golden son slain, said son was now a festering soulless husk spreading like cancer. He couldn't be saved and also not fully die. We know that the night of the black knives happened and the shattering occured soon after. I am sure Marika wanted to remake her world and fix her mistake, but Radagon hindered her and tried to repair the damage she's done. And the greater will was also apparently unwilling to give up the world it ruled. So Marika gave away the great runes of the elden ring to her children and told them to duke it out. Anyone who didn't manage would become a stepping stone for the one who'd take her place
@ferox25384 күн бұрын
@@omgroflgamer2010 All I need to know is that she f*cked up, that's why chaos chall take the world
@tonydak85733 күн бұрын
@@omgroflgamer2010 And that’s why you the Tarnish exists: to expose her lies and her crimes which has led to her son Miquella very selfishly wanting to usurp godhood and using every means to achieve it including manipulating his cursed brother Mohg and deceiving Radahn into believing that he too could achieve godhood by being his consort which Radahn begrudgingly accepts.
@knatspray6 күн бұрын
I adore his character, he's such a brat lol. But his family relations are all too relatable :(
@loiu6574 күн бұрын
Those stripped of the grace of gold, shall all meet death....in the embrace of messmer's flame.
@PrimalDragon17407 күн бұрын
A snake am I? Well, let me show you just how ssssnakelike I can be!
@ballerswagbro9k6114 күн бұрын
"I am Messmer Blade of.....wait wrong line"
@golden_misfit6 күн бұрын
Haven’t played the DLC yet guys, I’m downloading it tomorrow. How scared should I be? Update: Started the DLC. Got nearly killed by the first enemy I encountered and am currently bumbling my way around the Belurat Tower Settlement
@p.istvan87446 күн бұрын
Scared.
@featdirty11276 күн бұрын
Moderately scared. How high is your Endurance?
@YourCoolUncleMccroy5 күн бұрын
I'm scaled for near the end of the game and can't beat two guys dressed as a lion or Pontiff Sulyvahn's daughter Pretty scared
@bcbitchkkv5 күн бұрын
I've seen people recommend 60 Vigor. I've personally gone with 56 Vigor, and 40 Endurance, I think. Some bosses, like Messmer, are REALLY kicking my ass. Granted, he is probably meant for late in the DLC but I stumbled upon him relatively "mid game" (20-25 hours in). However, I've felt properly scaled for some other "major" bosses, going in like this. Good luck, and have fun - it's SUCH a joy to explore the Shadowlands :)
@Nemo124175 күн бұрын
I beat the lion on my first try. I'd gotten a few upgrades in the Shadow Realm, though. Rellana, on the other hand......... I had to use Tiche and it still took countless attempts.
@HappyPotat9 сағат бұрын
If you listen carefully, you can hear a bit of the Radagon half of the final boss theme in this.
@VictorIV03107 күн бұрын
Lore spoilers! I’ve been speculating that Messmer’s role in the Land of Shadow was an overseer installed by Marika to keep its denizens in check both as a form of exile for his blasphemy and a duty that she foisted on him until he will be allowed back into her arms. Turns out I was half right; While I don’t know his exact feelings on the matter when he waged war on the Land of Shadow, he was indeed tasked with lording over the land as a dreaded “devil” figure for its denizens to focus their hatred on. Messmer also hated his fire powers and has a serpent within him that he tried to get rid of but to no avail. Marika plucked out one of his eyes and placed a seal of grace to keep the snake within before having him kept away in the Land of Shadow, presumbably erasing him from history. He also sounds quite weary in his boss introduction where he seems reluctant to fight us but accepts it as his duty nonethless and second phase cutscene where he looks at the Marika statue and begs her for forgiveness before ripping his eye out. Defeating him has him curse Marika in his dying breath. Poor guy.
@maestrrsantarael65906 күн бұрын
Also he is Melina’s big brother, yea? According messmer’s kindling discription
@abdieljove20116 күн бұрын
Marika continues being best mom
@consumerjtc58356 күн бұрын
This shit and Miquellas whole plan is why the frenzied flame ending refuses to not be an invalid option.
@ohnoitsskylar6 күн бұрын
@@consumerjtc5835 real. I prefer burning it all to cinders instead of being perpetually enslaved by the will of whatever outer god comes along
@jefftheindianchief82796 күн бұрын
@@consumerjtc5835 Between incinerating everything in sight or traversing the stars, I'd still choose the latter. In spite of Ranni's flaws, she sought to cut the thread that binds everything & everyone to the Outer Gods & the contemptuous Demi-Gods warring over what remains.
@GodWarsX4 күн бұрын
1:20 - when this hits as he's doing his rapid fiery spear jabs followed by the air slam aoe.. my god that was insane
@thestormwizard64475 күн бұрын
First phase took me a few tries, but I did phase 2 in 1 try cos I managed to stagger him after his big opener attack, then bled him and beat on him with the hornsent at my side
@tonydak85733 күн бұрын
Marika…is an absolute monster. 💯
@LegatoSkyheart5 күн бұрын
Masterpiece of an OST
@obviouscadillac949310 сағат бұрын
"Thosestrippedbythegraceofgoldshallmeetdeathintheembrace -of *Messmer's* -flames. " -Messmer the Impaler I absolutely ADORE how the subversion of our expectations through trailers incorporates into the experience. In abyssal woods the tarnished is shown riding Torrent, only to be left alone once you actually arrive there. The hippo is shown outdoors, so he still manages to surprise-drop on us in the keep. The rannah dancer is shown in a field, but is actually in an underground mausoleum. The commander is presented as a tree sentinel reskin while being anything, but it. And finally, Messmer is presented to be a bloodlusted monster, the death of all "those stripped by the grace of gold". So, when you first meet him, manned up and on high alert, the next thing you know... he's nothing like advertised. Selflessly devoted to his duty he is, to serve Queen Marika, his Mother. Even if it makes him a monster, undeserving of her grace. But even his devotion is self-conscious. In comparison, one of his knights - Queelign - stands in your way twice, bravely citating the vow of Messmer, while he tries to cling onto his lost purpose in this forsaken land. This vow is very much like the liberation front's hymn from AC6. While simple soldiers quote only the first line: "Coral, abide with Rubicon! ", solely to man up, their leader, father Dolmayan, is the only one to embrace its true meaning - that none of them "should roll the dice." - to not release the coral. And so, the most iconic quote of Messmer, that he says upon slaying you, as it turns out, is not spoken seriously. If you pay attention to his intonation, you'll notice that he's almost being ironic about how much this quote is repeated, letter to letter, despite how hilariously long it is. All his joy quickly flees, however, as he is forced into complete darkness in order to serve his Mother, stripping himself of his own gold, succumbing to his shunned second nature. What a boss.
@HimMan.Күн бұрын
4:06 this part goes so fucking hard
@bravecereza21 сағат бұрын
Best boss fight of the DLC 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@VultureXV2 күн бұрын
Illegitimate child of Marika and Eiglay.
@taylorcornett302110 сағат бұрын
@1:20 is just SOO peak 😭😭 I actually finally beat him today and man his AMAZING!! God his ost goes so hard!
@Etanbeetan3 күн бұрын
Easiest mini boss in the dlc
@kaiman17914 күн бұрын
PTSD ost
@lukashaushalter43415 күн бұрын
Marika is just pure evil, nothing else, nothing less.
@vongolamistowl3 күн бұрын
Clearly you haven’t read any of the lore, marika used to be kind and bathed her shaman village in gold and ascended to godhood after being seduced by the two fingers to take revenge on the hornsent for stuffing her fellow shamans in jars and killing them. Unfortunately, she continued the cycle of violence even if she wanted to stop it once. She is very much morally grey. She event left a blessing of marika for messmer.
@dinorex34643 күн бұрын
@@vongolamistowl Marika is one of From's best-written characters, but she really did Messmer dirty. The dude became a demon just so people could hate him instead of her while she created a new world, but once she made it she had no place for him due to what he had become to the Hornsent and ended up casting him away. No wonder he's so pissed.
@vongolamistowl3 күн бұрын
@@dinorex3464 He has every right to be pissed cuz marika shunned him and try to suppress the thing he was born with because it didn’t fit with her idea of order. But you can tell she did love him based on granting him his eye seal and her blessing.
@willr.1495Күн бұрын
@@vongolamistowl There isn't anything morally grey about banishing your children and forcing them to become monsters
@Whatiwanttowatchbrowhere-bt8iwКүн бұрын
I really shouldn't have waited to fight him until the dlc was near its end, i ended up killing him extremely easily, likely because of all the scadutree blessings i had acquired, i also probably should've fought Midra waaaaaayyy later. I'll try doing things in a different order next time, maybe I'll find that one of the bosses i either killed in two hits to, or died in two hits from, to be my favorite. Sometimes i wish this game wasn't open world, so that there could be some more fine-tuned balancing.
@legadomerrick53014 күн бұрын
Mother, have you forgotten me? Why did you abandon me? Why didn't you come back for me? are you angry with me? Didn't I do everything you wanted? Did I not lead this crusade in your name? Mother! Why did you leave me? Why did you left?... I'm alone, I'm tired if I made you angry, I ask your forgiveness oh mother, I... I will continue doing your will! and Those stripped of the Grace of Gold will find death. In the embrace of Messmer's flame... until the day you finally return to me, mother.