What do you think of this precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
@ArtiePhillips7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure the first trigger from Conduit of Ruin would work with the copy from Ulalek. From my understanding, the trigger would resolve once, shuffling the deck and putting a 7 drop on top. But once the 2nd trigger resolves, upon finding a second 7 drop, the forced shuffle would tuck the first drop you found back into the deck. Still a great include though, with a cost reduction of 4.
@MFobes7 ай бұрын
@@ArtiePhillips ^
@alberhawkgaming89607 ай бұрын
You can go infinite with the echoes of eternity, Ulalek, and the Spawn Gang Lieutenant by sacrificing two of the three spawns created to keep paying for the ulalek triggers and then make infinite spawns and sacrifice them to the Lieutenant to kill everyone at the table. Also you can just one shot kill everyone with Aetherflux Reservoir by copying the ability with ulalek and echoes. Just some of the few things you can do with Ulalek :)
@Stratosentinel527 ай бұрын
Will you revisit once we have prices for the set’s cards?
@jasonhorn59767 ай бұрын
Not the best in the set but it's definitely a bomb eldrazi deck.. also I think imma need to join the Patreon lol this video came out and the 50 dollars in upgrades are already like 75 😆 🤣
@Cal-fr9mw7 ай бұрын
Y’all had the perfect guest for this pre-con
@enoesiw7 ай бұрын
I did get a turn 5 win with this deck out of the box. Similar to what you mentioned in the start of the video, but i had ulalek down on turn 2 because of a sol ring into talisman start. Then i copied Glaring Fleshraker on turn 3, copied Chittering Disptcher on turn 4, then attacked with both dispatchers on turn 5. With the myriad triggers on the stack, i cast Eldritch Immunity (C eldrazi instant) that gives a target (the fleshrakers) protection from all colors and copied everything on the stack. 8 damage from spawns entering. 16 damage from dispatcher copies entering. That was 37 damage to each opponent before the 6/8/6 going at face and a pending 16 damage at the end of the turn when the 8 myriad copies left the battlefield and each left a spawn behind.
@JCK8205 ай бұрын
ya ulalek can get out of conrtol fast. Imagine if you had a a reflections of lit you would of had twice as many
@gera48634 ай бұрын
Cards In: Emergence Zone Vedalken Orrery Void Grafter Flayer of Loyalties Reality Smasher Dust Stalker Rhythm of the Wild Swiftfoot Boots Reflections of Littjara Conduit of Ruin Cards out: Mutated Cultist Warping Wail Skittering Invasion Vile Redeemer Ulamog’s Dreadsire Sifter of Skulls Idol of Oblivion Eldrazi Displacer Azlask, the Swelling Scourge Suffer the Past Honorable Mentions: Echoes of Eternity Eldrazi Linebreaker Kozilek’s Unsealing Sowing Mycospawn Nulldrifter Ugin’s Binding
@kosche997 ай бұрын
The trigger from Ulalek Copies ALL spells you control on the stack, not just eldrazi ones. Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, you may pay {C}{C} . If you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies
@barongeoffrey757 ай бұрын
So if you play an eldrazi ulalek triggers and if you play an eldrazi in response you can retrigger ulalek so you can copy both eldrazis spells and their ability twice. That is a lot of mana but can be huge.
@kosche997 ай бұрын
@@barongeoffrey75 You could even flash in an Expropriate 7 {U} {U} and get copy it - if you got an Vedalken Orrery effect in play.
@barongeoffrey757 ай бұрын
@@kosche99 eww gross xd
@CrapsGoodxD6 ай бұрын
@@barongeoffrey75 wouldn't the last cast trigger only be copied once, since ulalek is added on top of it on stack once after? The second resolution of ulalek would be after resolution of the second eldrazi cast? Correct me if im wrong im noob
@GiraffeCrab6 ай бұрын
@@barongeoffrey75 or go cheeper. Mash in monstrous vortex. Cats Eldrazi with power 5+ copy with ulalek ability. Discover twice. If you discover into another power 5+ Eldrazi cast for free copy the discover, it the copies everything still on the stack. As long as you can pay the two and keep discovering into power 5+ creatures you just keep copying everything on the stack. Either that or I'm playing the game wrong.
@FoxHound-xu1mq7 ай бұрын
If only we could get this precon for a fair f*cking price....
@HexproofButHopeless7 ай бұрын
Factsssss
@joking12117 ай бұрын
Egh I payed 80 for it
@Acidblack0277 ай бұрын
It was if you pre ordered the set of 4 for $200
@ML-yn9yu7 ай бұрын
I did, only payed 70ish for mine
@miekamariehodson17317 ай бұрын
I got it for $65
@Stringer2077 ай бұрын
Naturally the eldrazi queen here to upgrade the eldrazi deck. Love it. Also I need that shirt lol
@hunteroverstreetnox7 ай бұрын
For what it's worth, the face commander is a brood spawn that is a combo of both ulamog and kozilek's lineage and not a combination of the two titans themselves
@coolguywithahat7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t the booklet reference Ugins hand in a pond analogy and says what if two hands went in at the same time? Ulalek supposedly destroyed a planet/was successful and hasn’t been seen since.
@trvislsly143 ай бұрын
@@coolguywithahat Yeah hunterjoverstreet is completely wrong. Ulalek is what happens when Kozilek and Ulamog manifest in the same location on a plane, which has only ocurred one time to an unnamed plane.
@kstephenson58577 ай бұрын
I had a hard time taking out Skittering Invasion just because if you copy it (it is a tribal Eldrazi card after all), then you’re getting 10 blockers AND 10 colorless mana for only 9 mana. I also threw in every colorless cost reducer I could find (like Herald of Kozilek or It That Heralds the End), basically making it so you can duplicate your big beaters crazy fast. Also, Leyline of Anticipation, Alchemist’s Refuge, Urza’s Battlethoper all give your spells flash as well. But the best flash enabler is Skittering Cicada, which gets +X/+X and trample for the mana cost of a colorless spell you cast. As a reminder, that is a cast trigger that will be duplicated with Ulalek, so you can incidentally make your 3-drop suddenly become a 17/17 trampler.
@miekamariehodson17317 ай бұрын
Chromatic orrery
@kstephenson58577 ай бұрын
@@miekamariehodson1731 I keep putting that in and then taking it out. It's great, and doubles as insurance for the chromatic lantern everyone's gonna throw in there, but in the end, you really would rather have in the early game mana rocks/ramp spells that are 2-3, maybe 4 mana if you're stretching it. If you don't reduce the # of cheap ramp in order to fit Orrery into your deck, then you are trading it for interaction, card draw, or big Eldrazi payoffs, which in my limited experience is the hardest part of a deck to balance. So it keeps getting cut, as much as I keep trying to put it back in. [Oh, and the ancillary card draw it might have provided with its second ability gets squandered because only a handful of cards at most in your deck will cost colored mana and not have 'devoid.' Feels bad.]
@ProfWalton7 ай бұрын
I am glad I preordered the set. Got all four for $190. I was worried I overspent but I am very happy now!
@cmsfhms7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you still overspent. But luckily for you the people (consumers) decide the price of the product to a large degree.
@SwagMaster8247 ай бұрын
@@cmsfhmsI think it’s stupid that there’s no MSRP for ANY product in Magic. How is that any way to run a business
@pinkcreme696 ай бұрын
@@SwagMaster824 the msrp is $5 per pack, so good luck l0l i got the deck for the original price of $60
@danielleeanes87607 ай бұрын
Ashley’s shirt is awesome lol. I always appreciate you guys transparency about the price and “bang for your buck” for consumers. Definitely has made me rethink quickly buying some things right as they drop as I’ve instead waited for better prices where I can find them
@JasonOshinko7 ай бұрын
With this deck it's especially important to recognize the distinction between colorless mana and generic mana.
@arridueldes98437 ай бұрын
ok, hear me out, instead of Vedalken orrey, Liberator, Urza's battlethoper. It comes in at flash speed itself, and costs less, both mana and money. Granted it is a creature so interaction is easier, but still, solid surprise move. And for those who do want to run the big splashy titans, mirror box is cheap
@mayerherskowitz7 ай бұрын
i already put both in lol
@mistertadakichi7 ай бұрын
I’d argue that the titans work with Ulalek, even without Mirror Box available. Sure, you only get to keep one of the titans, but you also get a copy of any of their excellent cast triggers. The OG Kozilek and Ulamog also help you with recursion as their “shuffle graveyard into library” ability will activate even if it’s the token copy you’re putting into the graveyard
@DancingGoat7 ай бұрын
+1 for this suggestion. Also, the 'thopter has a cast trigger, which Ulalek can copy, which buffs the thopter when bigger spells are cast.
@Greg501-7 ай бұрын
@@DancingGoat Remember, the intervening if clause means it checks when resolving too.
@DancingGoat7 ай бұрын
@@Greg501- That makes sense.
@yoshitheonly7 ай бұрын
Everytime I see people complaining about the cost, I count my lucky blessing of having a dope LGS with a killer owner that cares more about his customers than raw profit. Picked mine up during pre-release, would've never gotten the chance if he priced them like everyone else has.
@MrTimmyGT7 ай бұрын
Yea, my store did charge a "premium" for this deck compared to the others...$80. I thought that was completely fair and when I saw people saying this precon was $130-$150 I was so confused lol
@yoshitheonly7 ай бұрын
@@MrTimmyGT Lowkey, if I was a business owner, I'd probably do the same at $80. Def arguably fair all things considered. Absolutely insane tho that others get charged 50% more ON TOP of that price. I'd be complaining nonstop too if that were me.
@kstephenson58577 ай бұрын
Yeah I got mine for $85 at my LGS. Was ticked off that they raised the price until I called 3 other LGS's, and the lowest quote among them was $115.
@ohyea4567 ай бұрын
Usually... that means that store won't be around long. If they aren't maximizing their profit, LGSs don't make a ton of money to stay open. If they aren't maximizing their profit, that means they are sacrificing money on each sale... which means they have to sell more than a store that does. I've played magic for 20 years and every store I've seen open that is a "cool" store that prioritizing players happiness is usually gone a couple years later. I hope it's not true for your store, but I have yet to see one last long operating that way.
@mattcowling7 ай бұрын
same here
@AruhiTheGreat7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't mention the fact that Kozilek's unsealing 4/5/6 trigger can be used modally depending on how you stack the triggers. If you put it on the stack AFTER Ulalek's trigger, it can help you pay for the trigger when you might otherwise not be able to. If you put it on the stack BEFORE Ulalek's trigger, it generates more mana for more explosive turns by generating extra scions.
@CS-yo9iq7 ай бұрын
I have had a pretty solid 5 color DEVOID deck for a long time. Mana Maze and Spreading Plague really control the table. Ramp/Draw/Control and Annihilator!
@gabspvieira7 ай бұрын
Abaout the Conduit of Ruin, you can't stack the top of your library with two scary things unless you manage to draw the first scary thing (from the copied ability) before the other ability (original one) resolves.
7 ай бұрын
Was going to comment on that. The shuffling is not optional, so it does not work, indeed.
@kstephenson58577 ай бұрын
The precon does come with some card draw, most notably Garruk's Uprising. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the copy of Conduit will resolve, you put your chosen card on top of your library, and then Garruk's Uprising would trigger before your second Conduit would resolve, correct? And yeah I know that card is literally 1/98 in your deck (sans Ulalek and Conduit), but that's why I threw in as much card draw as I could into my upgraded precon
7 ай бұрын
@@kstephenson5857 I'm pretty sure you're right. If the stack looks like this: Conduit spell < Conduit cast trigger < Conduit spell copy < Conduit cast trigger copy If you copied with Ulalek, then it works. Because you have a copy of the creature entering between the cast triggers. The creature entering would trigger Garruk's uprising, thus making it possible to draw the card before the original cast trigger resolves. Copying any other way that doesn't copy the body would not work with Garruk's Uprising, but having any way to draw a card at instant speed would still allow to get the card on top between the cast triggers (Prophet of Distortion, Snapping Voidcraw, Endbringer, Kozilek's Command, to name examples with the Eldrazi subtype).
@minine65087 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, this precon going for $140+ is a complete failure of the entire no-msrp landscape. I don't understand why wizards isnt revaluating this problem
@Raymx36 ай бұрын
Picked it up at a local retailer for ‘msrp’ at $72. It’s still out there, but gotta look
@Fuckyoutubecensorship16 ай бұрын
I got it for $20 at Toys R Us
@ps53926 ай бұрын
What happened to these things going for $35 bucks? I think that was the pricing on the first set of decks. I realize that was a dozen years ago and thing go up in price but still…seems like they could easily be priced around fifty bucks and everyone still makes money.
@Macwylee5 ай бұрын
Nope, it's a fair price.
@jayfletcher89369 күн бұрын
@@ps5392if you broke just say that lol jkjk
@Staples3177 ай бұрын
If you are running Vedalken Orrery, why not run Leyline of Anticipation in addition or instead. The purchase cost is cheaper (less than $2) and you can start the game with it on the field, and it still only costs 4 total.
@iamunnami7 ай бұрын
Because of colors
@Jrizzle74267 ай бұрын
Double blue pips might be rough with a 6 color commander. It's not impossible it could be a problem.
@Themadwollf7 ай бұрын
Even better, for 3 generic mana you have Skittering Cicada and Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter, both of which are $3-4ish
@Staples3177 ай бұрын
@@Themadwollf those are the two I'm running in my eldrazi deck
@tomdoetsch86037 ай бұрын
Seeing Ashlen back for this precon episode was the best part! Her shirt, Eldrazi Game, is fantastic too 😂🤣 long live the Eldrazi Queen!
@Atmatan7 ай бұрын
Two of my favorite ladies talking about my newest favorite deck in one of my favorite archetypes and color combos. Must be my birthday or something.
@ME-rt8pw7 ай бұрын
Temur Ascendancy?? Solves both your haste and card draw problems in one card.
@TECHNOBLADE_NEVER_DIES30282 ай бұрын
At 59:35 ish when they say copying conduit of ruin allowed you to stack your deck with 2 things is wrong because you first search and then shuffle so that means if you copy it with ulalek you search for a card shuffle then put it on top but when the second one resolves unless you search for the same card then the card you put on top with the original will get shuffled into the deck and then the second card you searched will be put on top
@lukebranam-wenger19997 ай бұрын
54:09 at first glance I thought it didn’t work this way, since I’m 1 of the 3 people with a Verazol commander deck lmao. Kinda wild that with the similar spell copying ability, Verazol gets around the original spell getting countered, while Ulalek does not. Turns out that “copy that spell” vs “copy all spells you control” have very different implications 😅
@dubsinthetubs7 ай бұрын
Viva la Verazol!
@DranzerG37 ай бұрын
I played against this deck since my friend had a 5 color Eldrazi deck before this and it was pretty decent then, but now my god is it strong. The stack gets so high from all the copiees that you may as well be playing a storm deck. ONE thing I have to emphasize above all else is to make sure you practice this deck with players who are masters of the stack, ideally a judge because we took a few minutes during each activation to sequence it right due to the fact that this is now a truly well supported tribal deck. So you can run all the tribal synergy cards in full force along with all the new powerful eldrazi token generators, annihilate triggers, and cards like Kindred summons. And this heavily complicates the stack. To give you an example of how op this deck can be. I swords to plowshared Ulalek the turn he came out, and my friend still almost won the game due to how strong the new eldrazi tribal synergies are now, even without the commander. Also, anyone who wants to play this commander, don't be shocked if it's removed instantly, this deck is so freaking strong with all it's mana reductions and just every other spells creates spawns and scions so you have even more mana to work with. And now that you're in 5 colors, you have every possible answer to any situation in the game
@nathaneyring48587 ай бұрын
Cards to add: Emergengce Zone, Vedalken Orrery, Void Grafter, Flayer of Loyalties, Reality Smasher, Dust Stalker, Rhythm of the Wild, Swiftfoot Boots Reflections of Littjara, Conduit of Ruin Honorable Mentions: Echoes of Eternity, Eldrazi Linebreaker, Kozilek's Unsealing, Nulldrifter, Sowing Mycospawn, Ugin's Binding
@chrisgebben20437 ай бұрын
why on earth is Dust Stalker and Reality smasher upgrades? i would not put those in my eldrazi deck
@drewpalmer51904 ай бұрын
1:07:37 mutated cultist works well for me since i have 2 people in my group who love just to play toxic decks just to reset myself back to 0 if im runnin hot.
@wickieuk17 ай бұрын
I’ve had this deck on pre order for ages so been looking forward to this upgrade I managed to pre order it for £55
@AleksaStefanRadunovic7 ай бұрын
I got it for 58£ about a week ago! Can't wait for it to arrive and upgrade it slowly as well.
@HexForger7 ай бұрын
Very hard to come by. I pre-order it for £57 a month ago and then realized the only place left you could get that precon was Amazon, which is notorious for sending either incorrect decks or cancelling pre-orders.
@amusician17717 ай бұрын
Same! It’s also just come through my post and Ulalek seems totally busted ngl. Also pulled a foil echoes of eternity from the 2 card collector sample and combining it with ulalek a is hurting my head 😂
@AleksaStefanRadunovic7 ай бұрын
@@amusician1771 thats so cool! How come you got it before the 14th? I thought that's when it actually comes out. Or do some people get it earlier?
@Slaaneshy_Concubine7 ай бұрын
@@AleksaStefanRadunovic If the shop has a partnership with Hasbro, they tend to deliver about a week earlier. At least in Germany that‘s the case.
@MProducing7 ай бұрын
I feel like Eldrazi Displacer has a lot of value as a protection piece in being able to blink your stuff in response to your opponents trying to remove it.
@xMareZx6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for going into detail on the tech about the stack, casting, copying etc. 👍🏻
@tengyangpuu047 ай бұрын
Miss her so much welcome back !!!!
@WardReacts27 ай бұрын
1:06:10 You can copy reflexive triggered abilities, so you can in fact copy the last part of ugins binding if someone tries to counter it.
@dakkarocka7 ай бұрын
Got this and the simic, was thinking of flipping the eldrazi until this video. Looks sorta fun.
@gsmastermike7 ай бұрын
The simic deck just has so much value in reprints I had to cop immediately. Sadly didn't grab the eldrazi one but I don't typically play them
@petec79487 ай бұрын
I might be wrong but isn’t the second part of Ugin’s Binding a reflexive trigger? Ergo, when you do exile Ugin’s Binding from the graveyard after it triggers, it puts a separate ability on the stack that says “return each nonland… etc” which can be copied by Ulalek’s triggered ability (which is also a reflexive trigger) if you flash in an Eldrazi spell. 1:06:17
@xbtex6 ай бұрын
Eldrazi Displacer can also blink out blockers or other attackers, which is nice just FYI
@UNIVERSESBEYOND7 ай бұрын
Played two games with this deck today, absolutely loved playing it. I think it’s a scary commander so it gets targeted real quick, but it’s awesome when it does its thing!
@Ivanjumper137 ай бұрын
Lean into flash and go seedborn and anything that lets you draw a card whenever you cast a creature to keep your hand full
@adoream42915 ай бұрын
Thanks for talking about this one, I have Eldrazi Unbound so ofc I bought this one too. But it's so difficult to wrap my mind around- I usually play casually and I've only been playing for 2 years off-and-on now. I really need to play this thing in a simulation so I can understand this one.
@Dclem7427 ай бұрын
Progenitor's Icon to flash in Eldrazi is a good add too
@TheLocoreaper7 ай бұрын
At 1:05:00 you're talking about "not being able to copy" Kozilek's Unsealing. Though not in the way you probably intended.. you did mentioned flash before and you could technically copy is by casting this and casting a flash/instant eldrazi spell while it's on the stack :P
@rav53737 ай бұрын
Correction at 1:06:10 you can copy it cause Ugin's Binding has "when you do", not "if you do" however they can just Stiffle before you copy it. Plus with how the stack works you would need to flash in another Eldrazi between the triggers. That being said, this is a crazy card.
@gabspvieira7 ай бұрын
Doesn't the may ability goes on the stack and I decide to exile it or not when it resolves? 'Cause I can copy the triggered ability (that's still a may) and my opponet will only get to stiffle one of them. Then I may exile the card for the unstiffled one and get it to resolve either way.
@rav53737 ай бұрын
@@gabspvieira Ugin's Binding has 2 triggered abilities: 1st whenever you play a big thing you may exile Ugin's Binding 2nd "WHEN you do Cyclonic Rift". There will be a 2nd trigger. So you will know if they did exile Ugin's Binding and will have a chance to respond. Plus you can respond to Ulalek's trigger and Stifle Ugin's Binding before Ulalek copies it.
@jayd0lin2146 ай бұрын
Haha, look mom my name is on KZbin! Funny story, Sorin has actually become one of my favorite planewalkers. Maybe its fate I ended up with my last name lol.Its a running joke in my playgroup. Love you guys and your content, keep up the great work!
@CorrinQuest7 ай бұрын
Managed to get this one for $80, was quite happy
@nerdlabmtg7 ай бұрын
i got to play this at Commandfest agains the other precons and got the W. It played great. I am going to build the Azlask (Azlaska).
@sulakkalus7 ай бұрын
I’ve been calling the mana cost ‘Hybroid’
@kareltje22227 ай бұрын
Better than what I was thinking of today. Paying dewhite, deblue, deblack, …
@alexanderolson49906 ай бұрын
I think one such potential card to put in an azalask deck, is rukarumel from the commander masters slivers deck. It makes 1/1 colorless slivers, and can make those slivers also be scions or spawn. You could additional throw in maskwood nexus as it makes all your things into scions and spawn, and can be a mana sink to make colorless tokens.
@DJM_647 ай бұрын
Love the Des Moines demons hat
@snowmanO077 ай бұрын
Really surprised you spoke about flash and Vedalken Orrery, but left out Skittering Cicada!
@capitalg67 ай бұрын
Yes! Ashlen Rose back for the Eldrazi deck! The colorless champion returns! 🩶
@mmagowd5 ай бұрын
I won a very tough game yesterday by playing Skittering Invasion and turning the 5 Spawn tokens into 5 - 4/4 Eldrazi Angels with flying and vigilance by playing Angelic Aberration. Turns the table pretty fast when suddenly you have 6 - 4/4 flyers with vigilance.
@DrasticDzastr5 ай бұрын
This was a big help thank you! I added a rhystic study 😉
@crunkiss6 ай бұрын
My favorite addition to this is Ramos Dragon Engine. With him on the field bringing out Ulalek immediately gives him his 5 + 1/1 counters so now it’s a 9/9 or sack the counters for 10 colored mana. Now imagine if spells at some point are copied and you bring out Ulalek a second time…gives you all the mana you need for your powerhouses while saving your colorless lands
@amusician17717 ай бұрын
Can I just ask why zhulodok isn’t mentioned in cards to add? The way I’ve read it, if you cast a 7+ mana Eldrazi from your hand whilst zhulodok and ulalek are both on the battlefield, you can pay CC, copy the Eldrazi spell which now gives you two spells with cascade, cascade, and THEN you copy the triggers so each spell has double cascade, cascade no?
@famousstranger84687 ай бұрын
Cascade isn't a triggered ability it's why the roaming throne doesn't work in that precon
@RevonlyruGaming7 ай бұрын
@@famousstranger8468 Cascade is a triggered ability, If you have Zhulodok on field, cast a 7 cost Eldrazi, use Ulalek's trigger, you will Cascade 4 times
@famousstranger84687 ай бұрын
@@RevonlyruGaming zhulodok's ability doesn't start with when whenever or at
@Themadwollf7 ай бұрын
@famousstranger8468 the cascade rule text reads: "when you cast this spell", which is indeed a trigger. Throne doesn't work with Zhulodok because Z gives the spell on the stack cascade, rather than himself, so it's not a trigger of a creature permanent. Ulalek operates differently.
@Tornven20037 ай бұрын
I've been experimenting with Zhuludok. I figure you kill the original leaving the token in play because there's that shapeshifter that is basically gravedigger (return creature to hand from grave yard) but as it's classed as an eldrazi it can make another stack by itself and return OG zhuludok to hand and if you can keep copying mana rocks and eldrazi spawn etb's...
@pawstep32717 ай бұрын
I'm happy I got the set of 4 for $200, just got in the mail as I sat down to watch this episode
@thatsmrpirate54567 ай бұрын
I got this deck at a prerelease event last week and already added path of annihilation, echoes of eternity, toxic deluge, kozilek's command and desolation twin
@merklegaming6 ай бұрын
Cutting displacer is crazy. If you add any sort of token or etb doubler you can create infinte scion tokens with a couple different eldrazi.
@CaptVooDooGaming7 ай бұрын
I just made some changes to my own version. One of the cards I added was Jodah, Archmage Eternal, Regenerations Restored, Ulamon, the Ceaseless Hunger, and Temur Ascendancy. There is some silly techs I threw in there and I'm excited to try my build
@BladedCreed7 ай бұрын
Definitely thinking of making Azlask with all the other Experience Counter legends so that I can get max value out of them
@snakeman8307 ай бұрын
Already works really well with most of them. Spawn and Scions are small enough to trigger Ezuri, anything that triggers Azlask will also trigger Meren, Minthara makes a fantastic anthem when you're ready to finish, and Otharri's tokens love the boost from Azlask.
@timmarr093 ай бұрын
what other cards other than the cards already being cut should be removed to add the honorable mentions? or what cards of the new ones being added should get replaced with the honorable mentions?
@oldschoolaffaere3 ай бұрын
would love to know this too
@olivierdebilde42927 ай бұрын
Ashleeeeen 🎉 we missed you. Nice to see the Eldrazi Queen around 🎉
@AWWilson88Ай бұрын
Just purchased from Best Buy for $69.99
@usafdyes7 ай бұрын
All in all.... i think this was a great break down of the deck and really good suggestions throughout. however, id argue keeping Eldrazi Displacer IN the deck not only for protection, but because if you add Brood Monitor, you can potentially make infinite tokens when adding Echoes of eternity, which also give you infinite mana. as well as Glaring Fleshraker causing infinite damage. so basically short story version, keep Eldrazi Displacer in the deck and add Brood Monitor to the deck.
@chrisnengel75207 ай бұрын
Forerunner of Slaughter is a good add in. It's a cheaply costed Eldrazi that gives haste to your other threats.
@MeWeeney7 ай бұрын
I'm feeling pretty lucky! My pod wanted to pre-order the 4 precons. We each wanted different ones so we split the $200 pre-order evenly.
@joewaid7 ай бұрын
Rachel with a hat is my new favorite Command Zone host
@trinitybraley89077 ай бұрын
i JUST got this and im sooo exited to see it work!!!!
@Stringer2077 ай бұрын
If you copy Conduit of Ruin’s cast trigger, will you fetch, shuffle, and then place on top. Then do that again? Thus nullifying the first fetch? Or does it basically put two fetches and they both end up on top.
@SigmaZer07 ай бұрын
I have the same question so I'll leave this comment and wait for a reply. :D
@samuelraymond71917 ай бұрын
Nullifying the first yeah
@Asderios7 ай бұрын
It's a minor price to pay for 2 instances of cost reduction
@SigmaZer07 ай бұрын
@@Asderios Very true. :)
@kvncnh7 ай бұрын
31:34, Does the card that comes after glaring fleshraker have to be at instant speed to be on the stack?
@razornoir84887 ай бұрын
this is the one mh3 product i'm purchasing and i'm so excited ! i'm def building a deck with the 2nd commander so i'm glad this upgrade falls with that plan ! very glad i preordered it for $70 when it was announced 😅😅
@maplemeep7 ай бұрын
Got the deck day of release for 50$ along with all the other decks for the same price. Great decks for the price!
@mendes4237 ай бұрын
How about creating a nice Azlask spawning/scion deck? Would be awesome.
@Soulus1017 ай бұрын
If you cast a second eldrazi spell before you resolve the first ulalek trigger, don't you get a copy of the first trigger? This has infinite potential.
@elitefourblue37617 ай бұрын
Flippy Heliod is also a great add for both ways to build this. Flash and cost reduction!
@DHunt887 ай бұрын
I get that this is a budget build but, Ulamog the Defiler to me, is a must add. That dude is insane. I also think Roaming Throne would be a good addition as well
@DroneQuadcopter4 ай бұрын
I am big fan of Timey Wimey deck from Who edition of commanders and I just wonder if the Eldrazi are for me, still have not decided to because I love messing with my timers, making mess on the board but yeah, not sure if this is my playstyle, and hand to my heart, it is not cheap precon.
@Soulus1017 ай бұрын
Twinning Staff seems like an easy add for me, it gives you copies of your copies (it does copy any type of copy, not just instants and sorceries). Just try to imagine your Ulalek/Reflections interaction with a Twinning Staff in play :D
@Macwylee5 ай бұрын
Nope
@sakuralily59077 ай бұрын
Yo bocchi the rock! fantastic show and the music rocks! also great upgrade guide as usual - even if I can't afford and liekly can't get the precon itself!
@joshuamccartney77127 ай бұрын
I preordered this for 74 from Amazon, but it was on announcement. I've played Grixis Eldrazi for 5 plus years with no great commander. I'm psyched to get Ulalek in action!
@Phe0nix19867 ай бұрын
Hyped for this & for my decks arrival!!!
@Sleepless2277 ай бұрын
Mystic Forge for my 5 color eldrazj deck with Morophon as the commander goes hard. Not having access to a lot of draw, playing cards from the top of your library really helps, I had an eye of Ugin and was able to play like 3 or 4 eldrazis off the top for free lmao
@Soulus1017 ай бұрын
not sure if you cover this later, Forsaken Monument doesn't double spawn or scion mana, as you don't tap them to get the mana; relevant if you're looking to play it in Azlask.
@captcharisma027 ай бұрын
This is such a cool build. I like the tech and will have to borrow. I am hoping to get as much deviod in there as possible.
@hellstocker77077 ай бұрын
I have a lot of questions about Echoes of Eternity. If I copy it on the stack and make two, when I cast my next spell and copy everything on the stack how many versions will there be? Because wont the two Echoes of Eternity see each other trigger and make each other trigger an additional time? Plus won't they make Ulalek trigger two additional times? and won't the following Ulalek triggers be able to copy everything that proceeded them including the previous Ulalek copies? So.......You cast a spell -- both echoes of eternity trigger twice making 4 copies -- Ulalek triggers 3 times -- with first ulalek trigger you copy the spell and the 4 copies -- with second Ulalek trigger you copy the spell, 4 copies, and the 5 copies from the previous Ulalek trigger -- with the last trigger you copy the spell, 4 copies, 5 copies from 1st, and all 10 from second. If everything works out and you're able to pay for the two additional activations of Ulalek then you're making 40 versions of the spell. The original and 39 copies
@myhairismessy33637 ай бұрын
Yes, copying Ulalek’s triggers leads to exponential copies of spells and triggers on the stack. This is an infinite combo as long as you have some way to generate an additional 2 colorless mana e.g. Drowner of Truth’s triggered ability
@samuelraymond71917 ай бұрын
I see more Azlask with changeling and Maskwood Nexus kind of cards
@AlbertJanVaartjes7 ай бұрын
First thing I thought was "5 colour Experience Counter typal!" xD
@LeBigsou7 ай бұрын
I found an echoes of eternity alternate foil in the collector sample I got with the deck, talk about luck
@LeBigsou7 ай бұрын
Honestly, the spawns saved me more than once, I had Ulalek removed twice and with spawns I had no problem recasting it
@Meladoop7 ай бұрын
I've heard the thing about the titans being like hands in a pool of water i like to think ulalek is just big kozilek and ulamog holding pinkies from the Blind Eternities :)
@rumpt15497 ай бұрын
Ulakek is so easy to break. All you need is another flash eldrazi or kindred instant with some scions on the stack and you can go infinite. Its amazing
@geolawie7 ай бұрын
Mutated Cultist is going to be a lovely surprise for my friend who plays a poison deck. It can't remove my own counters, but I can remove those from others for politics.
@paulszki7 ай бұрын
do not understand their dismissal of that card. So many decks use counters. Planeswalkers/superfriends, +1/+1 counter theme, anything proliferate related and sure energy decks were mentioned and yes, they're still niche, but will appear with more frequency from now on. Like, even Radiation is a thing. There's so much incidental counter stacking going on that you'll seldomlyy have no targets most importantly, it's a free eldrazi drop or even a ritual sometimes. pay 3. copy for 2 = 5 mana. You now choose TWO cards to remove counters from. Depending on the gamestate you just disrupted 1-2 players completely, you have two 1/3 deathtouchers on the board and your next colorless spell might actually be free to cast. Complete worst case it's a 1/3 deathtoucher. Or two with Ulalek out. The ceiling is: you kill any combination of planeswalkers/+1/+1 creatures/charge-counter synnergies, get two 1/3 deathtouch bodies and your next spell is like 10 colorless mana cheaper. Do. Not. Cut. This. Card.
@tlatoaniretialis83166 ай бұрын
Thanks guys!!!! Excellent tips!!!!
@drew71807 ай бұрын
So excited for the awesome eldrazi in this release!😍
@zechgluckle72487 ай бұрын
Mentioned Kozilek's Unsealing and man does Sarkhan's unsealing go crazy in here too. Also putting in Up the Beanstalk to directly replace idol of oblivion with something that works with Ulalek.
@NicoGarfias7 ай бұрын
0:25, Wouldn’t you only get 4 Fleshraker triggers? Copying a spell doesn’t count as casting. And Fleshraker is a “cast” trigger. So you wouldn’t get additional Fleshraker triggers for the copies from Ulalek. Or did I miss something? 🤔
@brianpendleton26747 ай бұрын
The triggers are doubled and when you cast a colorless it makes a spawn which enters and triggers damage as well.
@Jamesemcnairofficial7 ай бұрын
I feel like there are other eldrazi fusions down the line... Zhulakul, Kozimog, Kozikul, Emralek, Kozidok, etc.
@Themadwollf7 ай бұрын
If you want to get rid of the tapped temples (why does wotc keep including them??), put in the Shadowmoor filter lands, as they also tap for colorless
@thePrinceofFrogs7 ай бұрын
Where can I get that ELDRAZI GAME shirt?????????
@tylerpennington728116 күн бұрын
So, you can’t copy the forsaken monument to double your life gain, double ramp and double counters due to it being a legendary right, you would only get to get to keep one on the battlefield correct.
@broveku7 ай бұрын
Skittering Cicada is another good one for flashing colorless spells in
@nathansparks98146 ай бұрын
I made changes to the mana base to add more blue/white due to the upgrades i did and some from this video being so blue and white heavy - cutting almost all of the black cards let me cut down on the swamp and dual black/x cards, and i kept green strong becsuse all of the draw is green or blue lol
@lordkyrian057 ай бұрын
I’ve missed Ashlen, we need to see her here more often!