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@MXIX2223 жыл бұрын
sussy baka
@Opheliias3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eleanor! :3
@cassandrapadron55173 жыл бұрын
YESS PART 3!!!
@Juanita71023 жыл бұрын
Finally 🥵💕
@rachel.8103 жыл бұрын
One thing to say on this Read The Jigsaw Man by Paul Britton He was the forensic psychologist on this case and follows or very closely The book also has lots of high profile cases like Fred and Rose West and Jamie Bulger
@maybellinebeauties18333 жыл бұрын
Props to the mom for not defending her son and reporting him, I’ve heard many times of moms turning a blind eye
@raeanncountryman35063 жыл бұрын
Ikr it’s so sad that a lot of mothers in cases let theirs kids just get away with terrible crimes
@janeglen82073 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard about mums and sisters refusing to believe victims, they instead victim blame the women and defend their sons and brothers
@MandyBuglet3 жыл бұрын
She was more competent than the cops!
@holly-rosemckinneycondren3 жыл бұрын
@@janeglen8207 i have 3 little brothers and safe to say if they ever did anything like this they would be getting thrown to the streets and the police phoned on them. I love them but there is a line you know? I'm all for protecting your family but if they are a danger to others....If you can defend something like that then you are just as bad in my eyes.
@janeglen82073 жыл бұрын
@@holly-rosemckinneycondren ABSOLUTELY!
@user-pg9sw2td7w3 жыл бұрын
80+ women attacked and they could have caught him after the first. That’s so horrifying.
@heatherpuckett11353 жыл бұрын
Yep and especially with the mother's confession to police about her son...that should have been it.
@anonymoose1163 жыл бұрын
Shame he didn't try that shit here in Texas, where it's 50/50 the intended victim is packing heat. We don't feel the need to involve law enforcement here. We just take care of ourselves.
@Lara-xu3yc3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherpuckett1135 I think that is what they were implying
@RickyPro8883 жыл бұрын
@@anonymoose116 and then you get arrested
@Natlatify3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymoose116 The fact that it is so easy to get a hold of guns in America goes both ways. You can protect yourself but guns frequently find their way into the hands of serial killers and criminals - which consequently makes you *less* safe.
@DreamyWorld193 жыл бұрын
Robert's mother: My son confessed a serious crime to me, can you look into it? Police: *Seen at 9:12AM*
@Ksgkask3 жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY LOL
@michelletan13512 жыл бұрын
Hahahhhahahhaha
@DeclanHaydock8 ай бұрын
AA😂j we ok do qokkk
@aliciaraeb6 күн бұрын
😂😡 😂😡 😂 funny but infuriating
@reginaperez15103 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the police, like they were given a rapist and murderer in a gold platter so many times and they were just too lazy to do their job, disgusting.
@tiredandbroke3 жыл бұрын
Robert's mom: My son explicitly confessed to raping a woman, here's his name, please go look into this and help the woman he attacked The police: I'm sorry, did you say something?
@danielleriggins60003 жыл бұрын
Its so strange to me this is the 2nd true crime story i heard today where someone has gone to the police with a person's full name and address and the crime they did and the police where like nah I don't think they did anything
@lilliemaecooper7613 жыл бұрын
that’s UK police for you.
@okidgaf76433 жыл бұрын
the system doesn’t care abt women
@allthatjas003 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY!!!
@origamipein183 жыл бұрын
🤦🏿♀️
@nadiawilkinson14743 жыл бұрын
If the police had just looked into the Mothers claim - all those women would have been spared the trauma and some their lives. Why is no disciplinary action ever taken???
@ThanhPham-ic8bw3 жыл бұрын
it's the police system way of protecting themselves with all liability. that could be why they act negligent. if they only hold ethical grounds a lot of crime can be prevented.
@helenclark78763 жыл бұрын
A long time ago in history when a man did this he was blinded so that he could never get the opportunity to see anything. It was very effective.
@ayishalifts96353 жыл бұрын
Because the police system doesn’t protect women.
@perriessaladbox46683 жыл бұрын
because misogyny
@capucnechaussonpassion143 жыл бұрын
Women are rarely believed when they speak out.... Hope this is changing now but unsure of it being accurate
@AlexaVojackova3 жыл бұрын
You weren't kidding when you said we wouldn't have to wait long for the other parts. Great work as always Eleanor!
@bcbros58313 жыл бұрын
Lmao same I was preparing myself to have to wait a couple days
@jayjohnson20353 жыл бұрын
Forreal, I just finished the 2nd part 10 mins ago and went downstairs to listen to the rain. I come back and reset my KZbin homepage and see this was uploaded 13 minutes ago. Perfect timing ong
@anti.bctards73763 жыл бұрын
no
@choicethetaurus3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZWmq3VqpJ1marM
@redwave47383 жыл бұрын
@@choicethetaurus Ngl i thought this was gonna be some trash self promo but i was wrong
@piffba3 жыл бұрын
Woman: yeah my son just confessed to this HORRID crime against a woman in her own home, with her children downstairs, he has a history of severe mental illness and creeping on his own damn sister, PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS Police: yeah sure :) *tosses info in the garbage*
@okidgaf76433 жыл бұрын
it makes me so mad. why would the own mother lie…
@becca-ww3xw3 жыл бұрын
@@okidgaf7643 right?? it's especially shocking because i feel like in so many cases we hear about like... parents either turning a blind eye to their children's crimes or actively covering for them, and the one time a parent does the right thing and reports their own child to police for something this awful, the cops just... ignore it. it's so infuriating!
@clairehall7043 жыл бұрын
What a real mum/women grassing up her child, she tried to do the right thing and get him help !
@okidgaf76433 жыл бұрын
@@becca-ww3xw yup n the one time a parent did end up doing the right thing it led her to be bullied and threatened by strangers .. for wanting ppl that raped tortured n murdered a woman in jail… ppl r sick
@bespectacledheroine72923 жыл бұрын
Not connecting the rapes and Rachel's murder I get. Even failing to test Napper thrice I understand. This one pissed me off the most.
@hildasnails59612 жыл бұрын
I am convinced that the media's fixation on Alex after Rachel's murder was the reason Jasmine was killed too when her mother was. He didn't want to leave another eyewitness. I am disgusted
@barbarella.artist2 жыл бұрын
Well… she was upstairs sleeping …. When he went in and raped her … I’d say the only difference is that she was a little girl .. he was watching for a while so knew she was there. The fact he had to go up stairs to find her sleeping I’m sure he knew she didn’t see anything ..
@bridgettbenson68302 жыл бұрын
I agree first thing I thought when it was said she was killed
@MindBlinged Жыл бұрын
Thats what I was thinking too!!
@melodysantana2443 жыл бұрын
The fact that the police didn’t do anything after a woman gave the info of a rapist on the loose, how did they still have jobs? That’s so awful so many incidents couldve been prevented.
@georgelusk9843 жыл бұрын
You've right - Had they acted upon that confession, lives and serious crimes wouldn't have happened . . . the Police incompetence is beyond belief
@AldanaBalarezo3 жыл бұрын
I’m so eager to find out who the killer was, I feel so insanely terrible for Collin who had to go through so much for over a decade. Even if he was compensated, I feel like that was lifelong damage. I’m glad he’s doing good now tho :)
@rachel.8103 жыл бұрын
He’s actually written a book on it Also recommend reading The Jigsaw Man because the guy ( Paul Britton ) who wrote was the psychologist on this case and actually worked in trying to get Colin Stagg to confess
@AldanaBalarezo3 жыл бұрын
@Anaya Warren righttt they made so many claims that had no evidence behind them and continued to push their narrative. So insanely messed up
@AldanaBalarezo3 жыл бұрын
@@rachel.810 omg thank you for letting me know about this! I will defo be reading both of them!
@rachel.8103 жыл бұрын
@@AldanaBalarezo The Jigsaw Man also includes other high profile British cases that he worked in like Fred and Rose West and Jamie Bulger
@AldanaBalarezo3 жыл бұрын
@@rachel.810 will defo check out those cases, and will try to get the book :) thanks!
@KittyCat2602 жыл бұрын
They paid a catfish *5 times* as much as they gave the child who witnessed his mother's murder? That policewoman was fully complicit and consenting in what she did. That's absolutely disgusting.
@bridgettbenson68302 жыл бұрын
I do think colon deserved his money they fucked up 16 years of his life but I also think Alex should of gotten more than the 20 he got and the officer shouldn't of gotten nothing she agreed to do it when at any time she could of been like I'm not comfortable or I don't agree to that maybe some counseling that they offer all officers but money hell no she was not a victim. Only ones who can say they were is Alex and colon
@ArreisMorsCI Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, how the police themselves knew full well how unethical their actions were, yet they proceeded without care. They knew they were luring him, they knew the possible consequences of their actions. Yet, she cries victim, AND got REWARDED for it. That's the ugly truth of the world we live in. The REAL victims get sh!t on.
@WildVee Жыл бұрын
The poor dude even went along with her "f€tlsh" and didn't even judge her when he thought she had a mental illness.. honestly, that made me feel so bad for him. He's not a perfect person but at least he learned from his actions & actually respected the woman who thought was actually interested in him? That's crazy. Glad he's doing okay now
@paulirosa207511 ай бұрын
@@bridgettbenson6830I actually support her getting compensation. We don’t know what the power dynamics were in that police force. (And we all know the UK police are not the most ethical people ) People in general, especially women are often put into a spot by their superiors where they have to perform acts which they would never have in other situations. Also considering that he was innocent it surely affected her mental health. But yeah the kid definitely deserved a much larger compensation than her.
@llostGD11 ай бұрын
@@paulirosa2075 the power dynamics are also where my mind immediatly went. I think Alex should have gotten more, not her gotten nothing.
@jessicakim56813 жыл бұрын
Real justice would also be arresting ALL the officers of Rachel’s case. DISGUSTING and SHAMEFUL.
@nobodysmistress28673 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@loricook63313 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20
@jubs963 жыл бұрын
@@loricook6331 In this case it was very bad police work even back then.
@lauren60153 жыл бұрын
@@loricook6331 they gave up on the dna samples after 3 chances!! Even after visiting his home! There is no excuse for this.
@rosienolan37513 жыл бұрын
my mum actually treated a lot of them as her time as an osteopath, they would talk and they genuilnly did believe they had the right man. as my dad, who new the boyfriend vaguely said, the arrested the weird guy in town an thought they had cracked it. says a lot about UK police and learning difficulties.
@rebecca55443 жыл бұрын
Judge: "he is TOO DANGEROUS" also Judge: *8 weeks in prison*
@run45083 жыл бұрын
i think thats becsue legally the judge cannot give him more time, he can only grant time for the charges pressed
@milliesmith19003 жыл бұрын
@@run4508 ye that charge was for possession of guns
@run45083 жыл бұрын
@@user-hr2tu5yr1i maybe she didn’t know , also it was acknowledged by the judge on how disturbed this man is , I can see how the short prison sentence may not make sense to others
@idek74383 жыл бұрын
You know that different charges have different maximum punishments right? You can't throw someone in prison for life because they have a weapon
@ines77143 жыл бұрын
frrr
@jasminescott19633 жыл бұрын
Alex & his father are literally twins. I’m so glad his life has turned out positively 🥺❤️ also, the police lagged SO hard, I’m disgusted
@rosa11623 жыл бұрын
Poor Colin stagg, and that photo of him holding the peace sign was just so adorable and i felt so horrible for him
@Luna-zh5pp3 жыл бұрын
i mean he still wasn’t the greatest person , charged for indecent exposure and sent an unsolicited explicit letter...
@rosa11623 жыл бұрын
@@Luna-zh5pp well obviously but i do feel bad bad bc theres kinda a different between indecent exposure and murder yk and dont get me wrong not the best person but nothing compared to a murder
@majawisniewska63973 жыл бұрын
i feel like he just was really fucking weird, not really trying to be a bad person, but just like not really thinking normally, and being weird🤔 but I also feel bad for him, he looks like a decent guy, and I’m glad he’s happy and has a family now after being unfairly accused of MURDER
@rosa11623 жыл бұрын
@@majawisniewska6397 definitely. he wasn’t the best person but at least he wasn’t a murderer right? And to be fair indecent exposure is not as bad as murderer
@spookyspite21783 жыл бұрын
He was just a horndog the whole time 😔
@kiarabuckley1783 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but to think that if Alex was Rachaels daughter and not a son. He would’ve been assaulted and killed too. It seems like the only thing that saved his life was the killers “preference”
@miabennett043 жыл бұрын
agreed:(
@suksona3 жыл бұрын
thats so disturbing to think about yet sadly, very true :(
@kelseyumble41503 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@sonotu28553 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't even think of that😔
@astrowolvez3 жыл бұрын
True, I mean he sexually assaulted a baby, so probably.
@sarahcarroll82063 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the media hadn't put such a spotlight on baby Alex. There may have been less motivation to get rid of little Jasmine. Absolutely heartbreaking.
@morepholosisomo3 жыл бұрын
this is why existing as a female is an extreme sport.
@lizc63933 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that you haven't gotten a ton of heat for this comment. It's true though, the bravery that's required at random times, in random places. It sucks.
@nutellatubby19433 жыл бұрын
@@ea9849 😐 Grow up and don’t say ignorant shit like that.
@nunmcbuttcheekbleh26583 жыл бұрын
@@ea9849 if you went out to war and died like a 'real man' we wouldn't have to witness your ignorance
@Sugaryguts3 жыл бұрын
@@ea9849 true we'd get beat instead
@jellyjamese31343 жыл бұрын
@@ea9849 Careful buddy, you wouldn't want mommy to see this comment from KZbin notifications and kick you out of the basement would you?
@urihayes56973 жыл бұрын
The police efforts in this case are disgusting honestly it is so shameful
@taylorgrace15233 жыл бұрын
When something didn't pan out they were just like pft well I guess that's that then. So what do y'all want for lunch?
@mrcoolguyxx55183 жыл бұрын
Bark
@jessicakim56813 жыл бұрын
They should have arrested and locked away EVERY single police officer on these cases for ALL these women’s murders. They are all PIGS. Disgusting disgusting pigs!
@BurnItUpp20093 жыл бұрын
RIP Rachel, Sam and little Jasmine. Such horrific, heartbreaking murders. I hope they are all resting in piece 😔❤️
@longlivelinzi2 жыл бұрын
Peace* not piece
@BurnItUpp20092 жыл бұрын
@@longlivelinzi Autocorrect
@katiebeasley66423 жыл бұрын
His last murder tore me up, that poor baby girl and her mother. This hit me hard, what a horrible disgusting thing he is.
@samih59163 жыл бұрын
Me too, I can't believe how heartless and careless that wanker Robert Napper is when he murdered them especially Sarah's daughter, makes me so mad.
@pixxiekitty74583 жыл бұрын
My heart sank on that one hard...
@1989Blinky3 жыл бұрын
Me too, it made me sick. As a single mom to a 4 year old, it made me sick to my stomach really bad...and actually afraid too to be honest...I believe it could have been avoided too. It's so disgusting to imagine people like this and these crimes...
@xxbecksyxx3 жыл бұрын
the police are so infuriating here... his mum is literally telling them he's a rapist and they do absolutely nothing with that information, it blows my mind.
@sammccaffery47423 жыл бұрын
UK police are famous for giving 0 shits about women who are assaulted and raped... it's disgusting
@vxcki10202 жыл бұрын
Eleanor: "I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video" Also Eleanor: "Apart from the UK Police Force tho, they ain't shit" 😭🤣
@Reploidx9 Жыл бұрын
All the disrespect can be lain on the metpolice. It's honestly too accurate
@vxcki1020 Жыл бұрын
@@Reploidx9 Oh yeah, most definitely, they're absolutely horrendous
@lifeofmehar3 жыл бұрын
The officers on Rachel's case just kept proving how negligent they were. These were officers who had NO leads, and the one ACTUAL, GENUINE lead that was given to them by the other officers was disregarded while they continued to harass Colin into confessing something he didn't do. Smh.
@samih59163 жыл бұрын
Yes you are absolutely right, I hope this haunts them in their sleep for the rest of their lives.
@emmyjulianne68503 жыл бұрын
100% agree. This is probably the worst case of police tunnel vision I’ve ever seen. (I’m sorry but I have to😭 *negligent)
@courtneytunnicliffe87603 жыл бұрын
No better joke than the UK police especially when it comes to women being assaulted, raped and even murdered Edit: I’m so blown away by the amount of comments, I really didn’t expect to receive so many. I’m glad that people are talking about this huge issue and sharing different facts, laws and stories from all around the world, it just goes to show that women are still viewed as second class citizens even in the 21st century, let’s continue to talk and raise more awareness! Also I just wanted to add that my intention was never to disregard any police forces from around the world that fail to protect these victims and go on as if the UK police are the worst. I am from the UK and I’ve heard so many cases where the UK police have acted poorly in relation to a case that involves sexual assault and rape, then again I have heard cases from other places in the world that do the same and I’m glad that people are choosing to share examples of these.
@mollymcdines66523 жыл бұрын
After I heard there were 80 victims, I couldn’t help but think to myself if it was men it would’ve been solved after the first
@staceykersting7053 жыл бұрын
It's often no better in the US and Canada, esp for POC or the indigenous. If your parents are socially prominent, the case will definitely be taken seriously....Ito's sad to say.
@scrollingtillmidnight73303 жыл бұрын
Hello, have you ever heard of Algerian police? Victim shaming? Using religion as an excuse to basically legalise abusing women?
@mollymcdines66523 жыл бұрын
@@scrollingtillmidnight7330 I’ve never heard about it until you mentioned it, but I’ve just went down a rabbit hole that really REALLY shouldn’t exist. It’s awful
@corbinbrier03 жыл бұрын
So many countries in the world have horrible police. Absolutely abhorrent individuals. These ones could've spared 80+ women and children such horrible trauma and pain. Sickening.
@bethventuresx82832 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for Colin. I had a stalker for 9 years, for 7 of those years he was to my knowledge my school bully, but by the time it got to 7 years he had befriended me. We went on a walk, I had forgiven him for his past actions and pinned it to immaturity, and agreed to hang out, and he took me to the middle of nowhere and that’s where he confessed to wanting to kill people, he told me he frequently killed animals and then told me if I told anyone he would kill me too, the only reason he hadn’t was he was obsessed with me and didn’t know why. I was 16, in the middle of nowhere, with this guy who was stalking me. But I didn’t know until then. For 2 years afterward my life got worse. But initially, when he told me that about himself, just like Colin and for self preservation purposes I acted very casual, like I didn’t care, I even faked interest in murder to keep him talking so he didn’t notice I was terrified for my life. I still believe this saved my life. I went to the police that night when I got home, and they did nothing as it was hearsay and he hadn’t actually hurt me yet..I had to move away and cut off contact with people I cared about so he couldn’t find me again.
@_ivanche2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope everything's okay now?
@bethventuresx82832 жыл бұрын
@@_ivanche hey, it took a long time but my life is completely as I wish it always was. Very grateful and thankful to be here.
@EnderPanReigns2 жыл бұрын
im so sorry. i hope you're living well now
@LittleLotteWanders Жыл бұрын
Police recruiters: Why do you want this job? Interviewees: Well the badge and gun are pretty cool. Recruiter: Perfect. You’re hired.
@sel5815 Жыл бұрын
@@LittleLotteWandersliterally wtf is the point of becoming a police officer if you’re not gonna do your fucking job
@nanaskitchen71893 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this, i cant believe they tried to pin a murder on a innocent person rather than to get the REAL killer. more than 10 years later they finally get justice. The poor boy was already around 13 or 14 when they found his moms killer
@jossykerflossy9153 жыл бұрын
And that the son and his family spent over a decade in fear that the killer would come for him. 🤦♀️
@Ash-np4to3 жыл бұрын
He was almost 18 I think. Which is just sick.
@jade38863 жыл бұрын
Poor Alex had to grow up knowing his mother’s killer was out there until he turned 18. The law really fucked up on this one, but what’s new 😭
@emilytaveras30033 жыл бұрын
Fr
@kieshabrown92742 жыл бұрын
U go and join the law and see how hard it is😤
@bitchlasagna12 жыл бұрын
@@kieshabrown9274 girl there was a million incredibly simple steps that could’ve been taken that would’ve lead to her murderer being caught years before. Hell before he even had the chance to kill her. Anyone with half a brain could’ve been more productive than the Yard in this case
@daballin86172 жыл бұрын
@@bitchlasagna1 FRRRRR
@brianbaratheon2 жыл бұрын
That's UK justice for you. Very similar to Canadian justice.
@lcdc_azuralie3 жыл бұрын
I still cannot believe all those rapes and deaths would be avoided id only police had acted after the mother called like it is SO frustrating that so many had to suffer duo to police's incompetencz.
@shanayabarlow10 ай бұрын
*Incompetence! There’s no Z
@morgantaylor69233 жыл бұрын
When she said “they found a toolbox with chipping red paint” I IMMEDIATELY thought back to when she said they found red paint in Alex’s hair. 👀
@idioticbailey3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@adahawkins77823 жыл бұрын
Same-
@amywray3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@felicedt49123 жыл бұрын
Same
@JadynElwell3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Fr tho I paused the vid and RAN to the comments to see if anyone else noticed-
@pixiehopper83 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that Colin didn’t give in and just tell them what they wanted. I know that had to be hard. It’s also crazy, because he actually looks similar to the actual guy that did it!
@pixiehopper83 жыл бұрын
@Leia I know! It’s so crazy!
@ticketyboo24563 жыл бұрын
Aren't we forgetting that Colin Stagg was sick and depraved. He profited from the whole thing by writing a book and was compensated more than the little boy. What are we doing in the UK?
@reya61263 жыл бұрын
@@ticketyboo2456 exactly and its horrifying that so many people in the comments keep saying 'oh poor Colin he's so amazing' like yeah I know he was wrongly accused but the guy is actually SICK IN THE HEAD what with the dark and weird sexual fantasies and the indecent exposure! why are people suddenly ignoring all that?
@laurieawesomeness72213 жыл бұрын
@@reya6126 the public indecency definitely makes him a p.o.s, but shaming people for their fantasies isn’t fair. He never did it on an unwilling partner, so shaming what somebody wants just makes more sickos if they’re convinced something’s wrong with them and nobody will love them then they turn into people like this. There’s safe ways they can explore their fantasies
@sammccaffery47423 жыл бұрын
@@reya6126 Okay okay okay lets just. Not. There are PLENTY of people with odd sexual fantasies. And two consenting partners can engage in those fantasies. In my opinion, since he never actually went out and did those things to any unwilling partners, he isn't a bad person for odd fantasies. Flashing a woman in the park is not okay, but again, one dumb mistake that he hasn't made since cannot be used to condemn him. He's getting the mental help he needs now anyway
@jacqueline61243 жыл бұрын
This just proved how hard women literally have it out there. It’s sad
@freya26333 жыл бұрын
Exactly I’ve seen so many people coming back with the argument that men get raped as well but just don’t say anything. I accept that but statistically more women are raped and yes they do say it but I bet there’s just as many women who don’t say as men. I know this isn’t the absolute best example but say just for example in sex education when Amy goes through the thing on the bus she is so resistant to go to the police, good thing Maeve cared enough Edit: I spelt maeve so wrong at first!!
@kiiiirbzzz2 жыл бұрын
@@freya2633 in the US more men are raped than women. This is counting rapes that happen in prisons. Also men are often the victim of violent crimes.
@freya26332 жыл бұрын
@@kiiiirbzzz in the us… I’m not from the us so
@leslie83113 жыл бұрын
Eleanor: “no disrespect” Also Eleanor: “BUT AGAIN THIS THE U.K POLICE SO WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT⁉️ WHY WOULD YOU THINK THEY WOULD THINK LOGICALLY🧏🏽♀️”
@beckydonovan50573 жыл бұрын
hbg pe
@wlivvyw58573 жыл бұрын
So true😂😂
@sophia.53753 жыл бұрын
FR
@Loxscript3 жыл бұрын
I love how sassy she is istgs its amazing
@ahsokatano46283 жыл бұрын
Well she gotta keep it real so😂💅🏾
@brandienichole74743 жыл бұрын
I think every woman who was raped and the families of the slain victims should have sued the police department. If they had listened to that sorry excuse of a human's mother then the rest might have been spared. I hope guilt eats at all of them for their failures.
@lau_baril3 жыл бұрын
Although I agree with you, I doubt it would have spared all of them. We all know how the justice system is. Since it was his first offense, he would have gotten just a few years. Sure, it would have spared some of them, but he would have continued to rape and eventually murder women after getting out of prison. I highly doubt prison would have reformed him, had he been caught. But him going to prison the first time mean police would probably have kept a closer eye on him afterwards. So who knows.
@brandienichole74743 жыл бұрын
@@lau_baril possibly. But it's also possible that not getting any repercussions led to the escalation. We will never know.
@oliverwillard23283 жыл бұрын
They should've gotten compensation, not the cop who was part of a horrible operation to get a confession out of a man who had nothing to do with the case
@wrongturnVfor3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the fact that the police royally messed up. however, I dont agree with the denigration of the mother. She did report him. And remember, she herself was struggling with coming out of an abusive relationship and mental health issues of her own. She did take him to psychiatrists. Unlike a lot of other people, she tried. He try may not have been upto our standards but then again, we dont know what her situation was really like.
@wrongturnVfor3 жыл бұрын
@@lau_baril yeah but even after the first offence his dna would be in the database. If he tried to rape more women, they would have caught him sooner. Even if it saved 70-74 women, that us still a LOT of women. 60 is a lot, even 10 is a lot. Plus, in that first trial, he may have been found to be mentally ill and maybe would have been put in a pysch facility only to be release upon treatment. Also, understand that the escalation in violence and murder happen as the criminals get more and more cocky as they dont get caught. speedbumps sometimes prevent escalation. The justice system royally screwed up and failed to protect a lot of women.
@LoveLivesHere123 жыл бұрын
The police really failed a lot of women and children here. 😭
@h3ilee Жыл бұрын
honestly heartbreaking 💔
@JustKrista503 жыл бұрын
It's so frustrating. Here is a mother who's done all she can to get her son help. Then, when that failed, did what she could to hold him responsible. The police seemed to not care about the rapes at all. :(
@girlie_ch33se203 жыл бұрын
100+ women now traumatized for life because police didn’t bother looking into this guy Unbelievable
@RainyDays_Productions3 жыл бұрын
I feel INSANELY bad for collin. he went through hell for doing nothing. the rachel police team completely ignored the green chain police team and if they didn't they would have solved a murder but no. they need to prove this one person is guilty. absolutely horrible! And I also feel super bad for Rachel's family. they didn't know who killed a loving mother, girlfriend, daughter, and person.
@humanoid_freak3 жыл бұрын
That policewoman consented to taking part in the operation. She apologised to Colin, saying 'it's my job', and whatnot, meaning she did it willingly to keep her job. I understand that of course she would've undergone some form of psychological trauma from the ordeal, but arguably nothing anywhere near what Alex would've experienced. To give that woman £125,000 for something she consented to, when a victim who witnessed the murder of his own mother at the age 2 years old was only awarded £20,000 for therapy to last him the rest of his life is truly disgusting. It's purely infuriating, and I hope with all my heart that Alex has been able to live a life that is a close to 'normal' as possible, and has been able to grow up as happy as he could, and I'm overjoyed to hear that he is living a good, happy, and peaceful life, currently.
@emexdizzy3 жыл бұрын
Eh... I feel leery calling it consent. You can't fully consent to sex with your boss when they proposition you when the boss may fire you for saying no. For the same reason, I doubt you can fully consent to acting as a sex worker at the behest of the police department bosses, who are probably men, telling you that you need to do this and to keep going or else another woman's rape and murder will go unpunished. Consent is also ongoing and can be revoked at any time. If you say yes and change you mind and a sexual partner doesn't stop, it's rape. If she consented at first to terms that were safe and ethical, terms which changed, and then pressured into continuing to give consent by her bosses when she was clearly uncomfortable, she wasn't able to keep consenting.
@4legsalex7063 жыл бұрын
@@emexdizzy My understanding of police work in the UK is that you can’t be forced to go undercover by your superiors. It’s done on a voluntary basis with compensation because of the additional risk involved. It’s an assignment that you apply for rather than a job you’re allocated without consent.
@KK-cn6jv3 жыл бұрын
The police officer deserved that amount. But Alex deserved more.
@laynasnow85503 жыл бұрын
@@4legsalex706 But just because it's not legal to force something doesn't mean it's not done, or wasn't done at this time. The whole thing is unethical, you can't assume that they ethically went about having this officer do this as well.
@laynasnow85503 жыл бұрын
If she consented to doing something sexual in order to keep her job then no, it's not consent. Yes, Alex should have been given more, but those two should be looked at separately. If you worked so hard to get your job and your boss said you had to pretend to be into depraved things, and you had to live for 7 months writing and flirting with someone you thought wanted to rape and murder you, and you had to go pretend you were into him, and you thought you had to because it was 'part of your job' then afterwards the public turns on you because your part was terrible and unethical, it would deeply affect you. The whole thing was unethical, and you can't expect that her bosses were fair to her when they were so focused on this honey trap happening in the first place!
@tigerkitten83523 жыл бұрын
Diminished responsibility? For someone who went out and raped so many and murdered, then went back to his place and marked on a map where he murdered? Nah. I call bullshit.
@ava_marie_v3 жыл бұрын
Right? Like, maybe if he'd only done this once that would fit, but he had so many victims! He very clearly planned out his crimes to some extent. This isn't the case of a mentally ill person who hadn't received the care they needed snapping, this is a dangerous man who just happens to have a mental illness.
@anonymoose1163 жыл бұрын
@@ava_marie_v oh, it was absolutely mental illness that caused this. Psychopathy is a mental illness.
@ava_marie_v3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymoose116 He wasn't a psychopath, though. Plus, psychopathy is a pretty misunderstood mental illness. It doesn't make people murderers.
@anonymoose1163 жыл бұрын
@@ava_marie_v no, it doesn't make people murderers...but he was definitely a psychopath. Antisocial tendencies? Check. Lack of empathy? Check. Strong response to rage? Check. Yeah.
@ava_marie_v3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymoose116 He was literally sentenced to life in a mental institution. If they haven't diagnosed him with psychopathy, then he isn't a psychopath. Please don't try to diagnose random killers with mental illnesses. You're not going to be right and will just spread misinformation that stigmatizes these disorders.
@kayleighwall67063 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud when you said the police gave up when he just didn't turn up to give DNA 🙄🙄🙄 god help me if the police ever have to investigate a crime against me 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@kashootmeplz8663 жыл бұрын
I reported somebody for assaulting me, gave all my evidence and it took them a year with no updates or contact to tell me they couldn’t do anything because there wasn’t enough evidence. They waited a year to tell me that even though I gave them evidence of him admitting it. Oh and they phoned me on my birthday to tell me they were gonna do jack shit 🙃
@marissa74023 жыл бұрын
@@kashootmeplz866 im so sorry i hope your doing much better now
@emilynotley66273 жыл бұрын
And people wonder why women and vulnerable men are afraid off males… when guys like this exist. Off course it’s not all men but it’s enough that’s it’s a problem. Over 80 women he assaulted 😞couldn’t imagine being around at this time being too scared to even open your door or go out your house.
@hanna46843 жыл бұрын
Even worst: when crap like this happens, people say “just go to the police”. We go and they ask us “what were you wearing? You were asking for it”.
@anonymoose1163 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I encourage my fellow women to stop being "polite". Ladies, don't be a victim. Fuck a mfer up. Grab whatever is nearby, go for eyes, throat, groin. Be viscious.
@user-ky7jx1cr5k3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@007aubama93 жыл бұрын
The UK police are the real criminals they failed Rachel Nickell and 80 other women when they didnt respond to the murderers own mum when she turned him in.
@Cunthr3 жыл бұрын
Of
@mehreen53383 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the Crime Scene Photographer, a crime scene so bad that you need a two year break to heal yourself from mental pain.
@emilymena44263 жыл бұрын
the lack of effort the police made is absolutely disgusting.
@jean-claudevandammit33712 жыл бұрын
Yeah, then so much effort was put into manipulating the wrong bloke. 🙄
@Mikuuiloveu2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t have to put that much of efforts, but they still lacked. How infuriating
@Alonepistachio3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it sounds like if your murder hasn’t committed a crime before the police will do nothing… that’s always the scariest part to see how easily these guys avoid the police for years despite not being criminal genius.
@cheyenne10823 жыл бұрын
i live in Oklahoma, USA and in order to get a license you have to submit your fingerprints so you’re automatically forced into a database. 🤷🏽♀️ it’s probably a lot easier to find first time offenders that way
@stgeorge45593 жыл бұрын
@@cheyenne1082 They do that in the UK now commit a crime even a petty crime and you get caught you have to give finger prints. And DNA it's just pure lazyness tho. How have these Investigators past exams to do this job when they can't see their own inconsistencies in their own logic
@erickamencia17533 жыл бұрын
After finding out Collin wasn’t the murderer and feeling terribly bad for everything he endured, I was eager for pt 3...Thank you for your Speed Jack and Eleanor!
@heaven76123 жыл бұрын
Didn’t she say that he was a sex offender though
@bethanyhorst89103 жыл бұрын
I LOVEEE these long, detailed, multiple-part series!! I can kick back, get a drink, and chill, knowing that i wont have to find something new to watch every 15 mins bc yours are an hour long!!! Love you Eleanor, your videos are great and I hope you love making them as much as i love watching them.
@fernandaaguiar78073 жыл бұрын
The most terrifying thing about this whole case is that people like Napper are still out there. As a girl, I am still constantly afraid (more than 20 years after this all happened) of being cornered on the streets by some perv. I'm 16 and I have to worry about looking over my shoulder to make sure there isn't some 40 year old following me on my way home.
@cmont40643 жыл бұрын
Becareful out there sweetie, but more so around new friends etc, sadly many sexual assaults, "love crimes" happen by someone YOU have met, or known, that is a proven fact. Most harm for some reason, killing a women happen by their love one when they become pregnant. Just never doubt your gut instinct, never! You think someone is a weirdo, they more than likely are, you get a strange feeling walking home listen to your body, mind follow your gut!
@chelseawilson31513 жыл бұрын
I’m the same I’m 25 with a 1 year old and I’m only 4ft9. Being a women is scary
@laurenbreyer19383 жыл бұрын
Same this case made me think of my experience and how I could easily have been his first rape. To think what he might go on to do scares me
@lauren60153 жыл бұрын
The biggest concern for women tends to be family and friends, unfortunately /: however, men are very much at risk of stranger violence.
@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet3 жыл бұрын
You are more in danger from kids closer to your age, I’m sorry to say. It’s not always some ‘old creepy man’. It sucks but we really can’t assume anyone is safe.
@sofinney3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who likes the cases that are multiple parts? I get so much more invested in the case
@livr75263 жыл бұрын
I do
@kay-bc3vl3 жыл бұрын
Love hate relationship
@zaden0053 жыл бұрын
its just the cliffhangers that make me a lil annoyed😅 but eleanor posts the parts fast so i dont mind waiting
@disbwkdwjwnsxo29143 жыл бұрын
Im so happy Eleanor shows everyones side to the story. The amount of work And research she puts into this is truly outstanding And she deserves the world 🥰🥰🥰
@lauranichol37913 жыл бұрын
Roberts mother: hi my son has explicitly expressed to me that he raped a woman at knife point while her son was downstairs. Please look into it because I’m afraid this will happen again Police: yes *tosses info out resulting in 80+ more women being attacked by him*
@soggybread53893 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@intrepidtomato3 жыл бұрын
This is so infuriating, it made me so angry. She did all the right things to protect all the other women and at the end, 80 women are sexually assaulted by this PoS and several young mothers are dead and their children orphans.
@h3ilee Жыл бұрын
Its honestly so sad
@Sin4ux13 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the junior police officers forgot, why they where there? I laughed at this, but in real life, it is not funny, you are an officer and you can not just forget to ask for DNA!
@n.k.i.3 жыл бұрын
Really tho how tf do you forget something like that?? This whole case is so frustrating.
@allysilman16313 жыл бұрын
I genuinely hope they're disgusted with themselves for the rest of their lives. If they did their job and got a sample, so many women could have been saved from violence.
@ca-ke94933 жыл бұрын
How easy would it have been to ask the guy right there in the flesh to spit in a tube or give them some hair? I'm not sure how much of a sample they would have needed or how the sample should be collected back then but whut
@Sin4ux13 жыл бұрын
@@ca-ke9493 Excatly!
@katierose52483 жыл бұрын
This is why I will never be comfortable walking alone even in daylight…
@LO-xo4fx3 жыл бұрын
the fact that his baby picture gave me chills... ugh
@aly50663 жыл бұрын
Cases like these are so infuriating. HOW DO YOU LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THAT FOR SO LONG??????????????????????// HOW??????? HOWS IT EVEN POSSIBLE????????
@Danibugsss2 жыл бұрын
Coming from an American, I find it really comforting for you to realize that a magority of your following isn’t from the UK, and explaining certain things like the lack of AC or certain things that are more custom to your location. I’ve had people from the uk make fun of Americans before and it didn’t really make it fun to watch their videos anymore, but I find it really sweet and cool to learn about these kinds of things through someone who is patient enough in their story telling to describe the customs for someone who isn’t so used to them. :)
@cici.ngxenge2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's sweet, I'm south african so somethings are a hybrid between american and british for example the may be products and things that we call the same as americans or british people and the fact that she takes her time to explain every single thing is cool . Plus other countries really try to make americans seem ignorant and take jabs at them, it's never funny maybe a percentage of you are like that but it sometimes is annoying when ppl make it seem extreme
@grandthanks3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad Alex is thriving….I reckon his mum would be so proud ❤️ Great work as always Elenore (and Jack!!) xx
@fuchsia22973 жыл бұрын
Who's jack?
@jeonghanfication3 жыл бұрын
@@fuchsia2297 the editor of these videos!
@fuchsia22973 жыл бұрын
@@jeonghanfication oh, thankyou
@Skyllertaylor15282 жыл бұрын
Eleanor*
@isabellacolon60573 жыл бұрын
finished part two like 30 seconds ago so you could not have had more perfect timing
@lonnie16203 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@sarahmartini133 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@syrinejb72593 жыл бұрын
Same!
@ggukmilk97553 жыл бұрын
Omg same!
@amandaborquez91493 жыл бұрын
Same!
@andreapoulieva67173 жыл бұрын
OMG, I simply cannot believe the lenghts to which police resorted to try and frame an innocent man (kinky and weird alright, but innocent) but literally disregarded Robert Nappa's mother call to them. That's so messed up. This case shook me up badly. I think I might need a little break from true crime, actually
@lsabelnapper Жыл бұрын
*napper
@kellyblondie84153 жыл бұрын
The police woman who pretended to be Lizzy James absolutely did not deserve all of that money but she could of pulled out of it at any time even at the risk of her job and didn’t need to carry on. Sickens me she gets that much money compared to Alex
@butterflyslinky3 жыл бұрын
I agree she did not deserve more money than the actual victim of the crime, but I'd have to know more about her to decide if she deserved anything at all. Depending how young she was, I imagine she was pressured into the job, and if she was relatively new to the force, she would have gone along with it for the sake of her career, regardless of how she felt about the ethics of it. And given her real name isn't public, I imagine part of that settlement was hush money so she wouldn't give even more details about an already unethical operation to the media.
@caoilfhionndunbar3 жыл бұрын
she should have been fired, and sued. she deserved everything that happened to her afterwards, she should have been the one that was sued
@cj18120113 жыл бұрын
Fr how is she getting 6x the amount of compensation a child who witnessed his mother's murder and SA when all she did was try to catfish a bloke in an attempt to get a wrongful confession
@butterflyslinky3 жыл бұрын
@@caoilfhionndunbar I am not defending her actions or the operation, but it was a fully coordinated attack with multiple people involved. I am hesitant to place blame on her without knowing if she was masterminding the operation or merely complicit. Lots of people will do questionable things if they're in fear of losing their jobs. I would need more information to determine if she was another vulnerable person who was taken advantage of or another terrible cop who enjoyed doing questionable things.
@caoilfhionndunbar3 жыл бұрын
@@butterflyslinky I dont blame only her, i Think every member of the operation should have been punished equally, but the fact that she boht had the gall to go to court and actually got awarded 100k for catfishing makes me hate her particularly
@candypop88633 жыл бұрын
Eleanor has really been spoiling us lately
@mzclara63923 жыл бұрын
Money talks.
@laurenrampley63313 жыл бұрын
Well done @eleanor
@Fountainofyouthstor13 жыл бұрын
She has been doing it for years.
@michelleengle2073 жыл бұрын
I know right
@bob172843 жыл бұрын
I feel like every American that watches Eleanor absolutely loves her accent
@anthonyaaaauhh54923 жыл бұрын
as an american, i can confirm this statement
@adahawkins77823 жыл бұрын
I agree
@NikkiNicolePop3 жыл бұрын
We absolutely do 🥺
@jessmagoa3 жыл бұрын
Hard facts as an American
@juliakotziamani31853 жыл бұрын
I’m from the south of the uk and I can confirm it’s such a delightful accent which I wish more people had around here. So nice!
@juliannamf163 жыл бұрын
The way she’s absolutely smearing the UK police in this series is giving me life😂😂
@evesning3 жыл бұрын
AS SHE SHOULDDD LMAO
@vxcki10202 жыл бұрын
Eleanor: "I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video" Also Eleanor: "Apart from the UK Police Force tho, they ain't shit" 😭🤣
@historicaldaily32452 жыл бұрын
Literally same. Love when she shreds the authorities cause she’s right! Why didn’t they do anything at all?
@brennahudson37562 жыл бұрын
for real!! i’ve never seen such a police force care so little about people
@Sophie-qh1vu3 жыл бұрын
The fact that his own mother reported him initially, and police didn’t do anything is outrageous. Over 100 crimes involving 80 women!! I hope that in the future these sorts of stories are few and far between.
@kakandaakakanda49673 жыл бұрын
Must've been hard for a mom to report her own son, most mom will protect their sons even after hearing such a confession. She really is/was a good woman.
@KaseyWithers3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to hear Alex is doing well, I can't imagine how hard it would be to grow up without your mom because of something like that. This was an amazing series, thank you for covering it for us
@imjustchilling413 жыл бұрын
Eleanor: "I get scared easily but even I can play this game Also Eleanor: has a entire channel dedicated to telling super scary true crime videos
@Killy-Willy113 жыл бұрын
I get it though. I can fall asleep to forensic files but after and episode of criminal minds I need to watch something comforting. 🤷🏼♀️
@GeminiMama63 жыл бұрын
@@Killy-Willy11 same! 😭😂
@whimsicalfawnly3 жыл бұрын
it pisses me off so much that the freaking mother literally TOLD THE POLICE ABOUT HER OWN SON CONFESSING TO HER AND THEY DO NOTHING. I REALLY DON'T GET IT. very very upsetting.
@BunniBeshara3 жыл бұрын
My intruder anxiety is so bad, I could never leave doors open, let alone unlocked. Even during the day. It disrupts my sleep, too. It’s a problem.
@juliel81243 жыл бұрын
Same 😭
@bibbsthomas40813 жыл бұрын
Sameeee
@Sandra0712853 жыл бұрын
IKR
@Erizou903 жыл бұрын
Honestly, better be safe than sorry.
@akhonanyawose87163 жыл бұрын
I even wake up to check if all the windows and doors are locked 😟🤦♀️
@withpeacenluv3 жыл бұрын
everyone watching this video: “omg this case is so sad :(“ collin: 😬✌️ 44:28
@unfinishedfruitloops73483 жыл бұрын
BYEE
@virahpayam3 жыл бұрын
😢😭
@skskskskskskksksk3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE
@pissbaby77573 жыл бұрын
PLSS
@lunacruzadventures21573 жыл бұрын
😭
@umangar93403 жыл бұрын
hey Eleanor, could you title them at least "part 1" and so on so it's easier to binge-watch? i watch your videos when I'm working on my work. thanks!
@sydgallup3382 жыл бұрын
I assume she does this for a few reasons and I support her for it: 1. For when non-subscribers find her, it’ll help direct them to her channel page 2. The titles are catchy and probably increase views too. All we have to do is click her name and find the video we’re watching, then the next parts would be right next to it!
@malllllll3 жыл бұрын
The fact that I know this is part three of the trilogy but the titles seem to not connect at all😂
@juliah80183 жыл бұрын
omg fr
@jojannekevisscher99233 жыл бұрын
Trueee! Although I can imagine it's hard for people just stumbling upon her channel. You kinda have to watch all her videos chronologically, otherwise you wouldn't know that they are multiple parts of the same story
@juliah80183 жыл бұрын
@Vampire sameee
@halaabdallah79193 жыл бұрын
Ong
@unsteriorey3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Love and appreciate her content but it's a bit hard to follow the flow 😢
@GenXfrom753 жыл бұрын
"Lizzie" knew what she was doing... she agreed to do it! The whole thing was disgusting. She agreed for MONTHS to do this. And I'm sure was paid WHILE doing it... IDK...
@elliephanttv66833 жыл бұрын
she was paid a lot more than any other officer on the case
@emexdizzy3 жыл бұрын
"Agreeing" to something is really not a sound way to judge. The women threatened with rape or their children would be killed couldn't give consent to the rapist. Consent can't happen when there's explicit or even implicit threat. What would have happened if she, as a woman on a mostly male force, said no? "Lizzie James" obviously wasn't going to be raped, but joblessness and poverty are not minor threats. They basically used her as a whore. I doubt she signed up to become an officer so that her department could exploit her as a sex worker (which this was, she was basically being a cam girl). I also doubt she agreed to it at the start believing she would be used to entrap him. She was probably told she needed to do it in order to protect other women from a bad man, that there would be boundaries, and she was pressured over and over into violating those boundaries. We shouldn't be saying "she agreed to it" when systems of power almost certainly pressured this woman into sex work. If she was under coercion, this probably could be seen as similar to sexual assault, even though she was also used as a tool to violate someone else' consent. Her culpability needs to be viewed through a more complex understanding of consent.
@Lee-lg6rd2 жыл бұрын
The court: “he’s a danger to society” Also the court: gives him 8 weeks
@shorthairkorra3 жыл бұрын
eleanor: he said he was kidnapped, he said someone cut his fingers off, he met the queen eleanor: ofcourse he didnt meet the queen me: yeah that wasnt the part im caught up on 😭
@emilynotley66273 жыл бұрын
It’s the fact he said they grew back for me 😩🤣
@Psycul3 жыл бұрын
@@emilynotley6627 I would've just thought that he didn't know what surgery was, and his fingers just magically appeared when he woke up in hospital 😳
@evesning3 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOO
@Dr.Sam053 жыл бұрын
the police did such a lousy job here, they could've done so much better if only they gave the attention and effort that they gave to Colin, *to* Robert, so much could've been prevented!
@eleanorabibby3 жыл бұрын
If men started getting sexually assaulted and raped at the same rate women do, sex offenders would start getting sentenced to life in prison after their first crime.
@Rdrecca3 жыл бұрын
Men do. They just don’t report it because they’ve been conditioned to not say anything because they’re “supposed to enjoy it”... They also are laughed at for the same reason when they DO report it. Men are not taken seriously at all when it comes to assault, sexual assault, and/or rape. They’re told to “man up” or “you’re so lucky!” Or “stop being a little bitch...”. It’s something like 3 in 4 women experience it, while 2 in 4 or 3 in 4 men do. People just ignore men.
@deborahwhitney94273 жыл бұрын
What an ignorant comment to make. Men do get raped. But less report it because they are made fun of.
@Rdrecca3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahwhitney9427 exactly! It’s amazing how little these people pay attention to actual rape and sexual assaults. And comments like this woman made, are only contributing to the shaming of male rape victims.
@brittanyconnolly29283 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that sexual assault is SO common and no one, men OR women, are taken seriously. It’s horrible to think that victims don’t report because they feel they’ll just be ridiculed or blamed
@rathey79993 жыл бұрын
@@MadoKari it's shame, not toxic masculinity. Look at you victim blaming.
@polinavergunova94073 жыл бұрын
I freaking hate the idea of men thinking they can do whatever the f they want to and with women so their fragile ego wouldn’t be shaken and their basic pretty easily controlled needs are satisfied. It just grosses me out. Wth is wrong with this world…
@polinavergunova94073 жыл бұрын
@Chocolate Stars I agree, those things that happened to him in the past are totally horrible, but they just explain, not excuse all of his actions. Also, my point is he only targeted on women with children, because men are so sure all females are weak and they can easily manipulate them with their kids. This guy from the video chose women all the time, not men. Because the knowledge that females are just a “thing to do stuff with” is deep inside people’s minds. My narration is kind of chaotic and messy, but i hope my point is clear. I think is sort of a stupid thing to deny that men think about women as of sexualized objects that have two functions: to give birth and to serve. And of course the result of his traumatic childhood is not only about the male issue. But imo it’s a massive part of it anyway.
@joanodom21043 жыл бұрын
@Chocolate Stars I agree...you're no psychologist.
@polinavergunova94073 жыл бұрын
@Chocolate Stars well… that’s literally what I explained earlier. I have no clue why you keep trying to convince me that his traumatic childhood experience is the main point in this story cus I already partly agreed with your opinion. But you just proved with your own words that his targets were women only due to the main idea of “weakness” and other stereotype bullsh*t about females. That exactly was the statement of my very first comment. I’m not saying that you are wrong, I’m just trying to explain my view on this situation here. That’s all :)
@claramae71763 жыл бұрын
@Chocolate Stars Majority of the women I know were sexually abused by the men in their life, starting with their own blood. Fathers, brothers. Uncles, cousins. It happens to women, more often even, and they don’t receive justice or peace but they also do not go out and rape and kill men in the same light. The worst part is to see his actions explained in a way that paints him as a victim. By being a man, it allowed him to commit these crimes. It is a male issue.
@YesIlikebananasSo3 жыл бұрын
@Chocolate Stars doesn’t quite matter what they have to add. They’re right. You’re no psychologist.
@nikkib-superbass35803 жыл бұрын
Napper’s Mother : My Son is a Rapist !! Catch Him before he does anything ! Bri’ish Police : Nah Fam aint a problem innit ?
@saiyauniverse38162 жыл бұрын
LMFAO why is it true tho 😂😂
@chrissyparkins16152 жыл бұрын
I have LITERALLY never had my jaw drop so many times during a case. What a WILD RIDE.
@cedarmay42453 жыл бұрын
This is the second time Eleanor’s covered a case where the media and police demonised an innocent man. I hate trial by media I hope he’s okay now
@Borninthe80s.3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s ok he’s married with step kids and I think he works in a Tesco store
@kaymarz4973 жыл бұрын
Sharu - Joanna Yeates, I think.
@lucycortis83343 жыл бұрын
@Sharu the joanna yeates case i think i might’ve spelt it wrong
@siham.gboukhennoufa44733 жыл бұрын
Something never sat right with me regarding this case , how can a person be considered mentally not responsible for this kind of crime but yet he still knows when to attack , I mean if you are mentally not responsible you wouldn’t know danger from safety . He wouldn’t have waited for the moment her boyfriend wasn’t there or wouldn’t have chosen to attack his victims in empty areas . Thank you for the 3 parts Eleanor , this must have been exhausting for you , thank you again 💕
@andiesola3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to hear Alex is doing well. It made me teary to think that his dad almost took both of their lives, but they have managed to stay strong and get past the tragedy and are both now doing okay ❤️
@ananyasamantasinghar33543 жыл бұрын
Judge said he is going to be very dangerous to society in the future and proceed to give him 8 weeks in prison wow
@annakaymyers10742 жыл бұрын
Crazy huh
@du61673 жыл бұрын
Sad to think that most of these murderers were raised in an abusive environment and basically traumatized since childhood. Not all go to become murderers but many eventually become abusers themselves. A vicious cycle.
@AileenJellyBeanzz3 жыл бұрын
I forget where I saw this quote, but it said the worst crime you can commit is to hurt a child because they take that hurt and put it back in the world :(
@intrepidtomato3 жыл бұрын
You may think me heartless, but that is one sound reason pro abortion. If you can't give a child a good home, if you raise it in a violent, miserable, traumatizing environment, you send another potential predator out to prey on others. Republicans think that being pro birth is empathy enough. But I congratulate any potential mother who recognizes that she is in no position to raise a child or is with an unfit father early on.
@Jim-so3zm3 жыл бұрын
@@intrepidtomato Yeah, you are heartless. Everyone deserves a chance at life and there's no guarantee things will turn out that badly.
@madhattie29522 жыл бұрын
@@intrepidtomato Thank you for speaking it out. No baby should be forced to be born into a life of misery, neglect and abuse!
@EmeraldEsmerelda2 жыл бұрын
@@Jim-so3zm No, it’s not heartless at all, it’s extremely mature. Abortion is and should always be seen as an option for women, if a woman is in an abusive relationship how on earth is bringing a child into that situation a good and safe idea?? It isn’t! Abortion is a very good option, if you’re so worried about the foetus why not go and adopt one of the many children that are already in the foster system instead of complaining about women doing something to their bodies that has absolutely nothing to do with you and also simultaneously avoiding a potentially dangerous situation for a child. Look at the bigger picture in the future instead of being immature and inconsiderate.
@hana-mg9kv3 жыл бұрын
just binged all three videos. such a good trilogy Eleanor
@yacobeinauan163 жыл бұрын
This video is just Eleanor roasting the UK police for 52 minutes and 44 seconds😂
@jessmagoa3 жыл бұрын
as she fucking should
@DVelez-wz3fe3 жыл бұрын
They deserve it! Bumbling idiots!,
@eliseg00013 жыл бұрын
girl! I can’t believe how fast you’re able to put out these cases. I would love to hear you talk about your process when researching and compiling information for a video. It seems like such a daunting task
@joanodom21043 жыл бұрын
Our Eleanor cranked out a fantastic 3 part documentary like a PRO. She has matured into an articulate presenter who is comfortable both behind the mic and in front of the camera. The number of subscribers reflects her abilities. I'm just terribly proud of her. She's headed for even greater things.
@simisim05663 жыл бұрын
The blood of all those victims are on the police hands. I understand that it can be difficult with no leads, but all they had to do was DNA test the FIRST VICTIM. His own mother turned him in, and they did nothing. Absolutely disgraceful.
@grc32113 жыл бұрын
It should've been this: Alex gets - £125k Police officer gets - £22k
@partiprocanada3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to see Rachel's son is doing well!! He deserves to live a happy life and I am sure his mom is with him every step of the way ❤
@1wingedangel5973 жыл бұрын
Evidence: his name is Robert.. Police: not interested. Next.. The system failed those poor women and their kids and families
@veeva993 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that the police were told about a son confessing to raping a woman and just yeeted that information away. It's horrifying that this all could have been solved after the first case
@hannahwright91863 жыл бұрын
They did yeet it 😂
@cynthiaaaxox3 жыл бұрын
genuinely the most heartbreaking case i’ve ever heard. my heart and condolences go out to all the victims and people affected from this case🙏❤️
@CamilaOliveira-yh4ut3 жыл бұрын
This story is so sad from all angles. It's always heartbreaking to see someone was just living their lives and then there was someone else who just decided it was fair to take their lives, to take them from those ones they love. A dedicated mother, a wife, a daughter, a friend.. it's horrible to know how unsafe we are. :( About the killer: I feel nothing for him as a man, he's just horrible. He deserves no pity. But I do feel bad for the boy he once was. Both my brothers are also Aspergers and I've seen so much - and that's not even everything. If people only knew what abuse, neglect and exclusion can do to someone, especially if they're "different" somehow..
@AuntBethanys3 жыл бұрын
The psycho mom never does the right thing! THIS mom is awesome! Turns her crotch goblin in, and NO ONE does anything 😳🤦🏻♀️
@jean-claudevandammit33712 жыл бұрын
Crotch goblin 😆 bet this woman (along with everyone else)‘s faith in the police was absolutely shattered to pieces from that moment on.
@AuntBethanys2 жыл бұрын
@@jean-claudevandammit3371 💯 💯 💯
@goinbelowzero14 Жыл бұрын
CROTCH GOBLIN BAHAHA
@willowx6364 Жыл бұрын
CROTCH GOBLIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@waternymph80853 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of being angry at how all of these cases have been handled. It feels like we'll never stop being afraid and its such an empty feeling. I try to stay hopeful but these make me want to cry😞