THE WIMBLEDON MURDER

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Today's solved true crime case is on the tragic murder of rachel nickell, where the only witness was her son alex hanscombe - now police have planned operation edzell to try to capture their first suspect and potential serial killer colin stagg for the wimbledon murder
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[@bria7402]

eleanor: introduces suspect but doesn’t tell us about their childhood me: ok so it’s not them

[@mayli3248]

LOL fr

[@ratboygirl]

HAHAHAHA

[@violetshelly]

that’s exactly how i thought LMFAOOOO 😭

[@edithgonzalez3927]

I've barely watched 3 videos from this beautiful lady, and now that I think about it... She doesn't mention the suspects background at all or at least she rarely does? Idk, I'm just starting to realize this... I might have to watcha few more vids to come to my own conclusion...

[@layishaaa1487]

omgJAJAJAJ

[@victorias.f.]

The police wasted their time catfishing a guy instead of trying to solve the case, that's so embarrassing and messed up

[@samih5916]

That's what I was thinking, what happened to Colin reminded of the case of a murderer called Raymond Edmunds (aka Mr Stinky) except instead of catfishing and love letters, a man who's ex girlfriend was murdered by Edmunds was accused by the police and the public of doing it and the police beat him up to get a confession from him and I found it so disgusting and unprofessional of them to do that.

[@mehreen5338]

Catfish. Yes. That's the whole summary of this operation. The fact that they spent money on THIS than anything was pretty damn unprofessional.

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

I’ve never catfished anyone, but if I were paid to catfish people, that would be so fun.

[@mehreen5338]

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I don't think this looks fun. "Lizzy James" took an early retirement just because of how this operation ruined their reputation. And the operation itself is uncomfortable. Sending sexual letters of odd (and slightly disturbing) pleasures, have phone calls and dates, and also falsely confessing to a double murder sounds messed up and not fun at all.

[@cannibalfriends9655]

I cant believe they cant catfish correctly

[@savannahb3249]

I hope Colin and his wife are having amazing consensual knifepoint fun

[@shwetachaubey6401]

😂😂😂

[@rozee9675]

lmfaooo me too

[@Tinyjam196]

This comment is underrated 🤣🤣🤣👏🏽

[@steakdriven]

You know what? So do I.

[@nicolewolfcry7408]

Exactly my thought. Knife play with consent isn't unheard of. Just saying.

[@starmatinog3405]

this is actually so mf sad… he probably tried so hard not to flinch over her saying she killed someone cuz he didn’t want to lose the only person who’s showed interest in him.

[@jaydenm4055]

I didn’t even think of it that way ): that’s so sad dude

[@jameslobos9224]

I mean...by that logic he’s okay with being with someone that killed two people a woman and a BABY Colin wasn’t a good guy he had committed sex crimes as well. (Police are still wankers for what they did in this case)

[@munginosal2135]

Yeah he even kept asking her for consent and approval in those letters even though they made it looked like she showed great interest in those kinks.

[@grayolsen8769]

@@jameslobos9224 he had rape fantasies, he’s clearly a screwed up guy but he’s trying to live his life the best way he can. He clearly ISNT a murderer and didn’t believe she had murdered, that was enough for somebody clearly mentally ill himself. Give the poor guy a break, life has not been kind to him

[@jameslobos9224]

@@grayolsen8769 (I’m assuming you did see the part where elenaor talked about his sex crimes in this response) it’s nothing to do with him having a Rape fantasy I don’t care you can have as dirty a fantasy as you like I get it but when your committing sex crimes like flashing random women the guy was still a creepy dirty fucker regardless of the fact the police were shit which they were and in fact there’s a big part of me that’s actually happy he got fucked over by police sex offenders get it way to easy but he did get screwed way to far.

[@southernheartcityface]

the way they treated this dude is so so humiliating and disgusting. and that's not to say i agree with his actions, because i don't. but they tore this guy to shreds searching for evidence they didn't have, and destroying his reputation for a suspicion, when clearly he was just lonely and desperate. yes, his actions were shitty, but he didn't deserve this.

[@jewelery46]

i fully expected him to confess to the murder just out of desperation and to get lizzy to like him, poor guy

[@YesIlikebananasSo]

@Chocolate Stars I mean, I wouldn’t call public indecency tame lol

[@jacqueline6124]

Right

[@QuadElementals]

No he deserves it

[@southernheartcityface]

@@QuadElementals why tf would he deserve it

[@hollyelizabeth2960]

“Colin was acquitted” *shows picture of him flashing the peace sign* This shouldn’t be funny but the timing of the quote and then the pic together got me

[@milliesmith1900]

was about to comment this 😭💀

[@suaasmrist]

Same 🤣😭

[@diandraespinoza8533]

Dude, I couldn’t help but laugh 😂

[@user-fd9gy5zh8d]

i wasn’t paying attention until that part and it got me so good

[@cuttlefishlife4379]

That's not the only thing he flashed...... I'll see myself out

[@Natalia-sm8of]

I feel like the police didnt care about finding rachels ACTUAL murderer and instead charging anyone they had JUST enough evidence against. I feel bad for collin. I cant imagine how embarrassed he must be.

[@annieveronica2855]

it is always so crazy when police is head set on one person being the perp, when they actually end up being innocent. they waste so much time, giving the actual perp so much time to get away. and maybe giving them confidence to get away with it again.

[@truly_happy7416]

Like- what his was the guy even supposed to react to his gf/crush confessing to murder? I know I'd be too shocked to do much of anything

[@AxxLAfriku]

OH NOOOOOOOO!!! I have two girlfriends, but very few people on YT are happy for my relationship success. They disl*ke all of the videos I make with my 2 girlfriends. Please be kind, dear na

[@origamipein18]

Me, either. 🙁

[@Natalia-sm8of]

@@AxxLAfriku ummmm

[@1111gjhfscvhdsh]

Imagine you’re an officer and your job is to send sexual letters to a man LMAO

[@1111gjhfscvhdsh]

@♫ఌ𝐾𝑒ʟsIᗴシ☻︎ FOR ONCE?

[@zel9298]

i would have to quit like cld u imagine

[@aanda4754]

And no even that, having to meet a guy who kink is holding you at knife point and slashing your flesh like, I would of been quitted

[@ItsPattySavage]

AY MY OLD PFP

[@thenutshell_lm4882]

Imagine hope

[@brookarellastyle260]

It’s not a cliffhanger for me Ms Neale, lol, because I never watch a two or three-parter until ALL parts are out so I can binge! Anyone else do the same??

[@ABCD-fq7xz]

same

[@chillpill4360]

Same 🤤

[@user-rm7bu9gs2l]

same!

[@nanib5385]

YUP!!

[@tashaburney7365]

Me ✋🏻

[@socialanxiety1541]

What the police did was sickening. Poor dude is just lonely and kinky and he thought he finally found the woman for him.

[@LWolf94]

Unfortunately being "kinky" in such a way will always put you on the list of potential threats to society. I mean I am all for freedom of self-expression, but there is a point at which people will start being afraid of you or will be suspicious of you.

[@sirlyrodriguez6677]

@@LWolf94 In his defense, he thought it was a mutual kink and consentual. I feel bad for him, the police did him dirty with that one

[@munginosal2135]

Yeah and the fact that he kept asking her for consent and approval even though they made it looked like she showed great interest in those kinks

[@commie_dog_boy]

@@gymnastlove310aj4 He didn’t flash anyone he was sunbathing nude. Not a good idea but not the same as targeting and flashing someone.

[@gypsydonovan]

@@gymnastlove310aj4 it was in an area that is used by nudist & is legal to sunbathe nude. His lawyer convinced him pleading guilty was the easiest way to handle the complaint (it's not clear whether he was off the assigned nudist area-by feet- or if she wandered in, not aware of what it was). The police wanted a sex crime on his record & heightened (not exaggerated, just prioritized) the woman's complaint, making the lawyer think the low charge offered was a good deal.

[@loverboymadita7811]

God, the media in this case are just sick. Not only plastering the little boy's face all over the papers, but continuing to demonize this man even after he was found innocent is so fucked up...

[@loverboymadita7811]

@um chile anyways so fair enough

[@niaram]

@um chile anyways so wasn’t his only offense sun bathing in the nude tho? not saying it’s okay, but he wasn’t a rapist or attacker, just a dumbass

[@Jellybeansatdusk]

I was gonna say. Like.. If you can do it on a nude beach, it can’t be that big of a crime, especially not one worthy of being defamed, manipulated, and accused of murder and condemned by the entire nation

[@maryamtara2934]

Tbh him arriving early to the “date” isn’t strange.. I’m someone who has a high functioning anxiety and i ALWAYS arrived super early to any meeting, outing class whatever I think he was just nervous and couldn’t want to meet this lady he liked

[@rosa3299]

I am the type of person that arrives early for any schedule. Sometimes I am just anxious enough to do so. Other times it is because I think it is polite

[@Jachimma]

I was thinking the same thing. I arrive ridiculously early when nervous or unfamiliar with my intended destination. I've even visited an office the day before an interview just to manage my anxiety....

[@amberstarms7058]

I was thinking the same thing. I always leave for work an hour or two early because my mind goes a mile a minute on wether I will need gas or I will get lost, road closures so much stuff that couldn’t happen but could.

[@teganmurphy4473]

When I was dating I would literally show up at the exact time we planned. Then stress in my car for 3-4 minutes because I didn’t wanna seem neurotic for being exactly on time 😂

[@hattarapilvi]

same im always so anxious about being late that i end up being super early lol especially since i use public transport, you never know when a bus or tram is gonna be late so better to be too early than late

[@shreyalove715]

UGH. knowing that colin was innocnet makes the whole operations so much worse.... IMAGINE thinking you were actually talkigng to someone who was interested in u :((((

[@XYZ-kb3mm]

right that broke my heart like even tho he got weird kinks he was being consensual about it and i feel bad everyone knows about them now

[@kay-bc3vl]

So disappointing. He really thought he found someone.

[@Gooner333333333]

he got catfished before catfishing was a thing

[@marissaadan1910]

I actually started crying when she said he was innocent this whole time, he was SO lonely all he wanted was someone no matter if they were crazy or mentally ill he just wanted someone and they put him through HELL and he was innocent, I’m so happy he finally found someone to love and even has loving step-kids now, his past was bad but I’m happy he grew from it

[@_am.ber_]

I suspected he was innocent but dang this was a bit of a spoiler

[@QuidNinja]

Man, this poor guy. But also let’s not lose sight for Rachel’s partner and son, not to mention Rachel herself. Can’t wait for the next episode so we can see what pathetic lump of human cells murdered this young lady.

[@aintgonnatolerateit2314]

Lump of human cells can i use that

[@alexandrakittycat6108]

“Pathetic lump of human cells” That’s the greatest insult I’ve ever heard

[@holio5578]

999th like

[@tonyasmith9490]

@@aintgonnatolerateit2314 ss

[@maddieb.4282]

Wtf, this is an important part of the story. Who exactly do you think is forgetting about the literal murder at the heart of the story?? Idiots?

[@gigggiii]

I really hate that they did this. It's actually so disgusting that they took advantage of this man's loneliness.

[@laurenjwolf]

I saw Alex on This Morning last year and how he has grown in to such a level headed, wholesome man is amazing. Him and his Dad seem such lovely people and Rachel would be so proud of how they carried on in her memory 🖤

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

When I read about how they're doing now it made me cry like a baby! They seem like such wonderful people that Rachel would love even more now than I'm sure she did while she was alive

[@ice-qb8kf]

If someone told me that they’re a murderer, I’d try to NOT react in a way that would make me their next victim. If you made a scene about it, they would want to get rid of you so you don’t go and call police.

[@ArchieThoam]

smart idea

[@matthewstone1465]

exactly

[@sumwhere08]

Exactly

[@solong_abigail]

Yeah- i would not like to be the next victim 😅

[@pertinasmith8183]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@elyeliza8287]

for the first time i screamed "YESSSSSSS" when the judge decided that whole sketchy operation was NOT admissible in court. i usually end up swearing at judges but this man was greattttttttttttt

[@kieshabrown9274]

And the money

[@HipHopFan1654]

I’m sorry but if my date were to confess of worshiping satan and killing a mother and her child I’d also not flinch and just try figuring out my options of how not to become a sacrifice myself

[@butterflyslinky]

Honestly, I would think she was making the whole thing up as well because it's just so over the top and convenient, especially since the police had already confronted him about the Satanism angle.

[@Gooner333333333]

Most guys wouldn't react as long as they thought they were going to get sex

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

It was an idiotic plan and response to his response. I was saying to myself, "He must either think she's lying or he's trying to protect himself." There can be so many reasons you wouldn't react to that. His continuing to stay with her after that can be accounted by the desperation thing, which gels with his mental illness theory. Lots of people are lonely enough to not mind a chronic liar.

[@LiLiLit]

Exactly!!!

[@berlin7817]

@@Gooner333333333 huh? whats your logic here

[@dezdovalina]

I don't think Collin's reaction to the fake confession is THAT weird. He might have been so afraid of being the next victim that he acted like he was fine with it. Or so lonely that he convinced himself she was lying/imagined it. Regardless, the poor guy didn't deserve this and the police could've used that wasted time finding the ACTUAL murderer.

[@elliotray7066]

Yeah I probably would react the same way trying to hide my panic

[@GeeseAreJustBastardizedSwans]

I honestly would assume she was lying and doing some edgy attention seeking.

[@GamingPrincessPlays]

True like I’m sorry but if someone told me this same situation I’d try act as cool as possible about it . I also would probably find it hard to believe a person would straight out just say this shit but if I was sense sincerity of that bombshell I’d ask as many questions and do my own background research after the meet up to see if it’s true and then go to police lol

[@princessketamine0]

That's also what I was thinking. In the event that she _actually_ killed someone as a satanic sacrifice, of course I wouldnt want to upset her in fear of being next!

[@EmeraldEsmerelda]

Exactly! Personally I’m very numb to stuff like that with the way I was raised but I don’t think most people would even have a reaction due to fear or maybe even shock.

[@myallucky3569]

Imagine having a kink so the police decide to frame you for murder

[@niaracymone]

the fact that knifeplay is normalized now, but in the 1900's its grounds to be emotionally manipulated and humiliated.

[@poppyjane3538]

literally?? girl

[@phoebe8579]

knife play by a sexual offender at the site of where a woman was brutally murdered and sexually assaulted in front of her 2 year old child isn’t just a ‘kink’.

[@poppyjane3538]

@@phoebe8579 bruh he didn’t do it anyway???

[@phoebe8579]

@@poppyjane3538 i know he didnt do it? fantasising about that and telling someone in detail that you want to do that, even taking her to the murder site and showing how the dead body was lay isn’t just a ‘kink’ tho, it’s extremely fucked up. yes he was emotionally manipulated but they’re still incredibly fucked up actions and not ‘normal’ knifeplay kinks

[@jikookmints]

I feel so bad for that man... like honestly between two consenting adults i don't really care what they do in bed, but i can see how this could've looked to everyone else. Still, that whole operation was so damn gross i dont know how no one saw anything bad about it

[@rufaromutede8847]

the police took it too far. already he had a terrible luck with women then you find out the girl you're in love with is an undercover cop so heartbreaker. this is how serial killers are manufactured

[@astrobejb]

He was literally sexually harassing women and people in public just because police catfished him doesn’t mean he had terrible luck he was clearly a bad person that’s not a murderer. And if police didnt investigate him everyone would be PISSED. It’s easy to critique their investigation after everything‘s been uncovered but in reality he was suspicious beyond belief

[@kierahunter777]

@@astrobejb investigating someone is their job, this whole situation is fucked up and beyond anything in their job role. It wasn't an investigation, it was manipulation of a vulnerable person

[@alfredcarignano4257]

@@astrobejb It's literally one of the worst investigations I've ever heard of. Let's just ignore the ethics (even if they matter, because eventually he wasn't even the killer): how can you expect a court to accept ""evidences"" that are literally just getting the words out of one's mouth? Claiming you will sleep with someone if they say they had committed a murder? Do you really expect a judge to accept these as evidences? And don't get me started with the fake confession of the Satanic cult, it's so stupid, it sounds like a Rob Zombie movie, did they really expect him to believe it?

[@charliedelfino2102]

@@astrobejb while I do agree, it seemed like he had learnt from his past mistake of unsolicited sexual fantasy, and had he actually been charged for the indecent exposure I think he wouldn't have done it again. My point is that after this it could have pushed him to relapse in his bad ways.

[@ratemate458]

Took it too far is an understatement. What the fuck kind of police sexualises and sexually manipulates a suspect!!! It's not just morally wrong it's wrong any way you put it

[@TheChugg11]

What was so awful regarding this case was that ‘Lizzie’ was awarded more compensation than Rachel’s son (who witnessed his mother’s murder)and retired from the force due to ‘emotional trauma’...

[@zunairafaiz372]

that is fucked up

[@GenXfrom75]

Colin Stagg may have his own issues, for sure, or just unfortunate fantasies, yet it didn't make him a killer. And he never said he DID kill her, even to have sex. He knew he didn't murder anyone.

[@caleighfosseneuve6422]

Can u talk about sandra bland? She's a woman who died of "suicide" in prison and a whole lot of people believe she was killed and her murder was covered up by police. Not to mention the mugshot.

[@alexisann666]

Wow, that sounds terrible!! I hope she covers this!

[@boredaf8168]

That’s a police brutality case. Not a case for a true crime KZbinr to profit off of. It would be inappropriate

[@alexisann666]

@@boredaf8168 police brutality is crime. What???

[@starmatinog3405]

@@boredaf8168 the point would be to shed light on it.. wth are you talking about

[@bbxnessa]

This one !!! I think about that case often

[@habeeba7879]

i really wish you’d label your videos as part 1, 2 etc cause it gets so confusing esp with the different titles used lol

[@KJ_-mg2np]

Exactly my complaint! It’s a simple copy and paste and add “part 1, 2, 3, etc…” Other than that, I am truly enjoying her channel.

[@sunnyboknow]

Agreed

[@sunnyboknow]

When I click the right one, I’m so excited, because its so confusing.

[@bryonyplatt-higgins325]

Hi just thought I would say that the first part tends to be the furthest down.😊 have a nice day.

[@habeeba7879]

@@bryonyplatt-higgins325 yeah but if i click on a random video to watch i wouldn’t know if it’s part of a series or not until i watch the video and she says ‘this is part 3 of a series’ or something. it makes it easier for everyone if she’d just title the videos with what part it is.

[@Lilybelle9087]

This guy was not the man who murdered Rachel, but if he wasn't a murderer before he is now. They completely psychologically manipulated and abused him for over a year at a vulnerable time for him, knowing he already had somewhat sketchy fantasies. Now a lonely man with deviant sexual behavior has been given a stressor by repeatedly being publicly humiliated

[@margaretgibbs6673]

Yeah. That's my thing: congrats guys you could've easily created a murderer. I mean. It doesn't seem they did but come ON. They could've put countless women at risk with the way they handled this stunt. Hope they're real damn proud of themselves.

[@maddie8415]

I doubt he has become a murderer. He seems like a bit of a weird guy but his big hangup was that he was so lonely but now he's married and even has step kids and seems to be very happy. The police really, really encouraged these violent fantasies and thoughts in him though! Like, if during the time he was "dating" that undercover officer if he murdered to impress her that wouldn't be shocking at all! He actually demonstrated good intuition for knowing that her claims of murder were made up, actually it doesn't sound believable at all in the context of this sexual fantasy, it sounded so bizarre.

[@Charlie-up2sh]

@@maddie8415 I’m glad he’s ended up ok now

[@ThanhPham-ic8bw]

i know. i feel like they have traumatized him and can potentially make him a murder. used his desperation for their own gain. the probably can't trust anyone now

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@ThanhPham-ic8bw I don't think that's the way it works.

[@Vanelloppe]

Oh wow.... Not only could he have given a false confession, he potentially could've really murdered someone else in order to please the woman he was attracted to, like- Has anyone ever thought about that in that team?

[@sunnyboknow]

Them dummies were more desperate than him. Would rather create a killer than to do more work

[@Molly-vo2nx]

Sure Colin was weird, but he wasn’t a murderer and that’s all that matters. I’m glad he got his happy ending. He deserves it after all the crap they put him through.

[@deadaf6098]

Collin is a weirdo sure,but he never harmed anyone. Worst he did was flashed himself. Feel bad for him

[@claudialenee9596]

Agreed

[@justely8498]

Literally! They shouldn't have done what they did to the poor guy. Even if he was a suspect, that made things worse.

[@Chowmder]

Yes!! The judge is like a hero for making sure the police couldn’t use the stupid “evidence” against him that was made by literally cat fishing him.

[@kale2357]

They should of paid him 3 million, as much as they spent trying to find him guilty.

[@-anaamna5616]

That’s what commented on another video exactly …

[@katiemacfarlane7880]

The barrister that was advocating for Collin actually mentions in his book that on many occasions visiting him in jail, Collin was more concerned about his dog than himself. He actually went on a hunger strike for several days for something related to his dog. It’s just so sad what this guy suffered through.

[@TheSystem.Co9]

Where did you hear that he went to jail or that the barrister visited him or that he went on a hunger strike over his dog because I don’t recall hearing Eleanor saying anything like that I heard her say was he was acquitted so no jail time but they held him In custody for 14 months and that’s they had planned to steal his dog but didn’t and that’s all I heard so what are you talking about I also couldn’t find anything about him going on hunger strike and nothing ever happened to his dog

[@WinterRose-el6nn]

@@TheSystem.Co9 you go to an actual jail when in custody, they didn't just keep him in a holding cell for 14 months, even if he was acquitted, he was still in a jail for 14 months

[@jessicawatson7360]

What’s the book?

[@katiemacfarlane7880]

It’s called ‘Under the Wig’ by William Clegg!

[@lenaroma320]

The fact that this man was so desperate for companionship but refused to confess should have been a major eye opener. Unfortunately innocent people get taken down by lazy corrupt police officers that give police a bad name.

[@shreyalove715]

one thing that i was thinkingabout was that even thought eleanor mentioned how this very strongly appeared to be a "random attack", if rachel and her son visited the park often, she could have very well encountered a stalker... thoughts?

[@hildagyapong]

I was thinking this!

[@loosegoosefaust6097]

maybe......

[@choicethetaurus]

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[@redwave4738]

@@choicethetaurus i would dislike but they way you self promo is pretty funny so i let it go. plus the song isnt half bad.

[@takedown9425]

@@choicethetaurus I wish i was lying when say this is really good

[@Thebriabeauty]

Bless that judge who decided to throw out the case due to lack of evidence. If he didn’t go against the police like he did there may be an innocent man sitting in prison and a murderer still out on the loose. Another Great video Eleanor!

[@ira__s]

Exactly and that could have encouraged more "investigations" like that to be done on other people. So to decide not to even see or consider it on court makes a huge difference for these kinds of immoral tactics being used.

[@emma2225]

‘Lizzie James’ also made a claim against the police for the trauma she endured during the investigation and she was given a lot of money in compensation

[@meatcleaverluigi]

wtf that's disgusting- The police that worked on that operation should have been way further punished.

[@hayejones245]

Good because this whole thing is fucking weird

[@ArchieThoam]

I feel bad for that officer, She had to pretend she was a murderer who enjoyed sacrificing people and had to speak to a guy who was a suspect of a murder in person..she probably thought her life was in danger. She got through the whole thing, she’s a strong woman

[@pixie4549]

She left the police force soon after because of the trauma of the role she had played. Actually if they had listened to the pathologist who did the post-mortem they could have got on a better line of inquiry. You can read about the case in the book 'Unnatural Causes' by Dr Richard Shepherd.

[@v7014]

they really tried to charge this man for murder but all he’s guilty of is being kinky like damn

[@sec6059]

didn't even think of it like that😭

[@niaracymone]

@@sec6059 it's so true, now its seen as cnc but back then it's seen as grounds to be humiliated😭

[@swampghost8271]

Fr he was just an edgelord 😩

[@yulana990]

Wouldn't really say he was just "kinky" when he wrote about wanting to have sex with the cop at the same park a woman was just murderered with a knife and basically re-enact the murder and rape scene of a woman and even recreating the pose. That isn't the same as a regular knife play kink, that's a sign of needing mental evaluation. BUT what the cops did was RIDICULOUS and trying to get a confession out of him and even saying that she would NOT have sex with him if he hasn''t killed someone?! INSANITY. If they genuinely believed he was a murderer, why would they not think those words could make him go out and murder again?! Seriously, some people don't deserve to be cops.

[@annieh.5049]

he may not even have the fantasies he told the cop anyway 😭 they basically forced him to act like it to impress the cop

[@happygolucky5855]

Colin may have felt like a huge idiot once he found out his date was a cop, but hopefully he can rest in the fact thats its no way near as stupid as the cops must have felt once his DNA came back as not a match.

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

Typical police tactics. Now, I realize they were under immense pressure to make an arrest in this case, but, you want to arrest the CORRECT perpetrator.

[@fiafia5802]

Exactly. Typical is an understatement

[@berlin7817]

yeah but they don't know if he's the correct one, they just hoped that he was. that's definitely bad, but considering they had no idea he was the wrong guy, it doesnt make them the worst people in the world. i mean everything seemed extremely sketchy in the beginning

[@MsDaniMarie02]

Making a Murderer: UK edition

[@shortsni1317]

😭

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

@Tnkrhll no, I'm from the States, but I'll definitely look into it. From what I know about True Crime, it seems like a lot of tactics are the same when it comes to law enforcement...

[@CatherineMcClain]

Poor Colin. Yeah, he was an odd guy. That doesn't give people the right to treat him that way. Even I kept finding ways to give him the benefit of the doubt. I hope he's ok now.

[@jacqueline6124]

Right

[@chloejohnson8059]

the amount of times he said "you know" on the phone calls. he was so reassuring with her.

[@annakaymyers1074]

Omg! Thousand time

[@annakaymyers1074]

Times

[@MsDaniMarie02]

I’m so glad the judge deemed Operation Edzell inadmissible in court.

[@MsDaniMarie02]

P.S. £700,000 isn’t enough

[@callumgoulding5360]

After everything that he went through, I'm just happy Colin found someone, he didn't deserve anything that the police put him through.

[@weebsaradevilman4853]

H I uj

[@madisoncarver6356]

aww i feel terrible for collin:( he was so genuine in trying to make “lizzy” feel comfortable about her kinks because he thought she was mentally ill. he was so sweet going about it and i hate that the police humiliated him like this

[@abiinvestigates4669]

The media is absolutely disgusting in this case. Why are you putting a two year olds life at risk?!?!?!

[@mollyx3458]

they’re always disgusting tbh

[@violetx9190]

SIS I WAS WAITING SO BAD FOR THE PART TWO

[@ier_xx]

Same 🥰

[@CharlotteFreya21]

Same 😍

[@celestia4932]

Sameeee!

[@Hi-oo6py]

Right same

[@evalynking8699]

SAME

[@jewelery46]

They literally orchestrated this whole mans villain origin story. if he hadnt hurt anyone before he probably is more inclined to now seeing as hes been humiliated. i hope not tho

[@ira__s]

Yeah it could've turned really badly. Luckily he seems to be living happily now with his wife now and working in Tesco, so he's doing good for himself. Probably needed some therapy after he went through though. So unethical from the police.

[@gretuoliukazzz]

Collin works in my local Tesco. Poor guy, such a sweet man and always so helpful... I didn’t know it was the same person until I watched this video and he looked so familiar.

[@mehreen5338]

It's a relief to see he is doing okay now!

[@zara-rv5gr]

Which tesco is it? There’s a tesco I go to that has someone rlllly similar to him but I don’t think he would be comfy with me knowing

[@intrepidtomato]

hope he is okay. This guy had his entire private life dragged through the mud.

[@richiebtime489]

Really? I thought he was living off his compensation money still....

[@mehreen5338]

@@richiebtime489 Even if the compensation money is big, you'd still want to have a job and get extra money.

[@brimaher10]

I can’t get over how someone could even think about harming a child, or harming someone in front of a child. Harming people is wrong, but there’s a new level for someone who can’t even fight back or stand up for themselves. Disgusting 😒

[@sketchlearning3625]

Absolutely true..my little neighboor who is only four started to really like me and wants to hang out with me all the time..im 24 and dont have child of my own but i just adore her on a sister level...cant imagine why anyone would want to harm a child...

[@choicethetaurus]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6bUqKavr8x3f7M

[@redwave4738]

@@choicethetaurus Imagine self promoting and the song is actually good

[@lostcause1823]

@@choicethetaurus I wish i was lying when say this is really good

[@spaceboy2475]

@@choicethetaurus i would dislike but they way you self promo is pretty funny so i let it go. plus the song isnt half bad.

[@asuspiciouslyefficientmito8338]

Could you imagine the trust issues you would have after months of communication with woman you thought was into you, one you went on dates with, and then you find out it was all a lie. I could never

[@therunaway4731]

Imagine being catfished by an entire police force

[@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops]

Police want me. Police fear me.

[@ayra6172]

Like who would you report the catfish to😭 like incase he thought the woman was sketchy and tried to report it

[@tea_hous3481]

Damn that must suck

[@HopeeInk]

Maybe I'm the weirdo, but I would have the exact same reaction like him. Who is gonna make willingly a possible murderer uncomfortable? *I'm not!*

[@lucamixes6342]

Exactly why would u wanna piss of a murderer unless you seriously have a death wish 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@monetmonroe4644]

Exactly lol she knows his address & everything !

[@intrepidtomato]

Also he could have thought this woman is a bit odd, and that that was a sexual fantasy of hers. Because it sounds made up. What a completely hackneyed, dumb story to feed a suspect

[@madisonclanton1111]

@@intrepidtomato I. Love ioi

[@aallen6426]

I would been like huh okay cause if she had no qualms about killing a pregnant woman then Ole girl wouldn’t think twice about taking me out. 😭 on some real ass shit I would of tried to be nonchalant as possible in order to get away from her.

[@NurseJhonna]

Suggestion. If you have different videos with different parts, title them as such. It makes it hard for viewers when they aren’t labeled as “part 1” and “part 2”. Thanks!

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

YASSSSS! Her videos aren’t overly bingeable to begin with, but this would help so much!

[@reviebyrnes9527]

Not me shedding tears at Colin getting married and being happy

[@jeccika06]

this story just gets more heartbreaking :(

[@kxixxrt]

poor guy. imagine being framed for murder by your entire country and thinking a woman is finally taking interest in you, only to find out that it was the police manipulating you into thinking you had someone. you would feel so lonely :(

[@sinelizwindungane5981]

I actually had tears in my eyes thinking about what the police did to Collin. How did they think they would present this in court? 😡

[@MsDaniMarie02]

Exactly. Shitty police work.

[@GingerSmurfette]

It’s Paul Britton he thought Colin fit the criminal profile and when it turned out he didn’t instead of looking at other similar crimes that had taken place during the investigation, he doubled down and insisted it was Colin Stagg.

[@rachel_ellingson]

I literally JUST finished the first part and was trying to figure out what to watch next. Then I got the notification!!!!! We love the consistency!! 💖💖

[@w1kdsexyeyez1]

Same!!

[@ryleymcclure7515]

Okay but can we just talk about how Eleanor is just thriving!? She’s just doing so well and I literally look up to her as a 20 year old

[@lowercasebadguy]

The media didn't get a SHIT about this child's trauma they looked at it as a cash grab and it's DISGUSTING

[@humanoid_freak]

I honestly couldn't stop smiling after you told us about Colin's life after what he went through in this case. Good for him! I hope he continues to live a happy life with his wife and step-children. :)

[@pretelquetzal]

I hate that police think pentagrams in someone's home immediately make them think someone is suspicious. Nobody automatically thinks someone is suspicious because they have a cross on their wall

[@pixie4549]

Well except the police force in 'Midsummer Murders'. If there's minister in the episode, he's usually the murderer, if there are lay Christians in the episode, they are also likely suspects. If you watch a lot of episodes you'll know what I mean.

[@whims6278]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@pixie4549]

@@whims6278 What does your reply mean, I probably should know, but I don't.

[@whims6278]

@@pixie4549 lol sorry it just means I agree 💯 and AMEN

[@pixie4549]

@@whims6278 No need to apologise, thanks.

[@sanj7568]

So Lonely Hearts was basically the 90s version of Tinder.

[@haleybutler8733]

Yessss

[@jossykerflossy915]

Not just the 90’s. There have been lonely hearts since at least the 40’s. Look up the Lonely Hearts killers.

[@snem9381]

I think there were more people looking for more ""serious"" relationships in lonely hearts

[@minakoaino7043]

When you mentioned Lonely Hearts made me think of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

[@nyxinne]

I just cannot. I feel so bad for Colin, that police have done to him is so unethical and awful. Also, it's just disgusting how the press treated little boy. Horrific.

[@die2124]

I feel bad for him. I have fantasies but I would not tell anyone about them

[@Jinbeizamezama]

Jeez could you imagine being the actual murderer and spending ten years laughing while the media focuses on someone else?

[@strangeodd1552]

Eleanor wasn’t lying when she said there’d be twists 👀 Also RIP Rachel

[@jessicasharley]

When Eleanor posts I get chills and click

[@auntmissedperiod]

murder case

[@naomisav5738]

Same 🔎👀

[@Ensanadi]

@@auntmissedperiod yuh. 😘

[@sewgeekdesigns9113]

It makes my day better lol

[@Gamer-G27]

If someone told me they killed someone and drank there blood I’m not going to try to be on their bad side either. I’m going to be freaking out in my head, but not on the outside, I’m going to get out of their as fast as possible.

[@lauren6047]

no literally that's what i was thinking. like say that story is true, someone really tells you that they murdered a mom and unborn child, what are you supposed to do in that situation? like how would you even react?? he was fucked either way

[@chloephillips1381]

He probably either thought she was a bit mental or was lying

[@Banana34598]

if a guy is trying to hide his face from you, to the point its strange to you, how do you have a clear, concrete idea of what his face looks like?

[@smileyattitude6807]

He wasn't trying hard enough like when your in school and shy/try to hide but everyone can see you clearly

[@ArchieThoam]

I think she remembered the moments when they had quick glances and she also made it seem like this happened a few times and from the other woman’s description might’ve made her memory clearer when they did the sketch

[@stephhudson4948]

Great point!

[@jasonhorton]

NOW Monday can begin…

[@4chanincel9]

Sorry about yesterday everyone calling you a spolier

[@jasonhorton]

@@4chanincel9 I didn’t see if that way but at the same time I get where they are coming from 😊

[@4chanincel9]

@@jasonhorton oh no I fell bad for saying anything:( but have a good day anyway:)

[@lizc6393]

"Identity parade" sounds like a lot more fun than "police lineup."

[@criminologywithcaitlin]

I studied this case in criminology. It’s so fascinating. God bless her soul❤️

[@areebahkhan4318]

I’m looking to do criminology so can u tell me what u do in this subject like what are the types of things u learn about and is it a good subject to choose??❤️💕

[@mehreen5338]

Me too!! I'm interested in this subject.

[@marnie-jadexox8580]

I am so so happy to hear that Collin got as close to a happy ending as he could have. Brought a tear to my eye poor man went through so much

[@themightyquin7499]

When being a freaky pagan goes wrong 🥴 Poor Collin 😕

[@morgano2544]

If the female detective had already expressed interest in the case, is it possible he wrote a fantasy letter about Wimbledon common and the knife because he thought that was her fantasy??

[@phoebe8579]

maybe, although he’d already written the previous fantasy to the woman before about aggressively having sex with her at knife point in the woods

[@intrepidtomato]

totally

[@equalityforallhumans]

***spolier***** do not read if you don’t want to know. Knowing that this man, Colin, is innocent is so heartbreaking to know what crappy police work did to an innocent man. The fact that he really thought someone was interested in him and it was all a ploy probably traumatized him. Poor dude :( I mean I don’t agree with some of his actions, but he was innocent. Dang, thanks for bringing awareness to this case.

[@ritikadatta6078]

@♫ఌ𝐾𝑒ʟsIᗴシ☻︎ 2 rapes and 2 attempted rapes that he was CONVICTED for because they had enough proof to do so The Actual estimate is 80 above

[@DeadPretty138]

Fr poor guy, hes gonna have major trust issues. I know he’s obviously got some seriously creepy vibes when it comes to kinks but they really tried to lead him to say he killed someone he obviously didnt kill 😩

[@charl483]

Also, peace sign Colin after he was acquitted is a legend. Hope that's his Facebook profile pic.

[@stellasiddle5182]

did the police not realize they could have incited more violence by having that undercover cop tell collin that she didn't believe he would sexually gratify her if he wasn't a murderer?? this whole thing is so disgusting and the worst police work i've ever heard of. they couldn't even stick to their own plan.

[@jaffajack101]

The police did Colin dirty, MASSIVELY, I feel sorry for the dude.

[@FrostySE7]

“It was raining so it’s weird he stood under a tree” I like this channel but she does say the weirdest things, if it was raining in Hyde park, I’d stand under a tree too fs

[@gorypwincess]

As long as its not a thunderstorm-

[@marissaaguirre4244]

You’d want to stay away from trees while raining in case of lightening.

[@cookielulu2356]

She meant that it was weird that he arrived early considering the fact that it was raining

[@emc301]

Yeah, the standing under the tree wasn’t weird, but getting out of your car when it’s raining and you arrived really early, that’s the weird bit. She just was saying wouldnt you stay in your car until you needed to get out?

[@zappa-happy]

Yeah I like her too but she does say the weirdest things quite a lot- just constructive criticism and in comparison to other true crime channels I watch where they Don’t!

[@brett8259]

It's so disgusting that this is how they went about trying to get a confession out of him. Whether he did it or not, that confession should NOT be admissable in court because it's so freaking shady. It makes it even worse because he didn't do it. And the fact that they just kept pushing him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're two consenting adults, your kinks should not come into the conversation.

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

"I have to make this guy confess to the murder without encouraging him." "So I find being murdered to be pretty sexy!"

[@smileyattitude6807]

Lol it's probably good they did that though cause otherwise they would've been wasting there time even longer waiting for something that would never come

[@bosiljkamaricic8340]

@@smileyattitude6807 i kinda agree but the man could have hurt somebody bc of their lazyness and prejudice..

[@reverendsquirrel]

"The 90s were weird." All it was was craigslist made out of trees. I love you.

[@aanda4754]

Imagine being in your late 20s never getting to be in a relationship or have someone to love and then you find someone who you think that loves you and You care for them back and a year later after pouring your heart out on that person you find out the whole time it was a whole police unit, that’s soo humiliating..playing with his feelings like that, they are lucky he ain’t killed him self

[@V4ND4L1Z3RR]

And just think about the trust issues that this would cause. It would be so hard to be in a relationship after something like this, constantly worrying if it’s real or not.

[@libraryjuice6544]

Why does no one ever talk about her makeup... she always looks so gorgeous😍

[@CharlotteFreya21]

Righttt 😍😍😍😍

[@WillowPotter27]

Right?!

[@eterxnal_parixs]

mhmm yea

[@choicethetaurus]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6bUqKavr8x3f7M

[@redwave4738]

@@choicethetaurus While i don’t encourage it. This not a bad self promo.

[@keeleyamber9435]

Im so happy Collen stag is married and has kids and is now living a way better life with more money and people there to support him, after everything he has been through he deserved all that and a lot more! :)

[@galexystarz3076]

I'm not a murderer but when people say they did crazy shit I just look at them and say "ok and...?" cuz it's rarely ever true. That poor guy, I feel bad for him.

[@bugabea4059]

11:08 that says "thunor" - an anglecynn pagan deity, so clearly he doesnt even know what hes drawing because anglecynn paganism is not satanic...

[@JD-pd3gl]

Interesting!!!

[@vgacoralreef]

he could be pagan

[@bugabea4059]

@@vgacoralreef yeah and the pentacle (pentagram) is a symbol in paganism but the links to satanism dont match up as anglecynn paganism isnt satanism - thats all lmao, he could just be a pagan with interests in satanism but the two religions arent the same : D

[@bugabea4059]

@Katie A yeah lmao when people say theyre alt and mix up pagan beliefs haha :,) happens too often

[@celestialsarahh]

@Katie A lots of people throw a big fuss when people get info abt other religions wrong. I still get why people get confused in the pagan sector, I certainly don't know that much. But it is interesting that someone pointing out the differences between paganism and Satanism is met with a "who cares" response. I'm not attacking you or saying you have that attitude but I think it's an interesting convo!

[@angelic_affirmations7]

From the phone calls and hearing his voice I just had a feeling right away that Collin is actually innocent. He seems like such a lonely person with some weird sides but damn I feel bad for him…

[@ashleyharris2883]

I agree. As soon as I heard him talking about the accusations, it seemed clear, to me, he didn’t do it. Just so sad.

[@callofdutywarzone9709]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how this queen’s treating us at the moment 🙏 ❤️

[@eucalyptus7585]

She puts so much effort into her videos 😔💕

[@callofdutywarzone9709]

@It’s free Real estate rude

[@ValkyrieKimori]

If the guy was still a virgin, wouldn't he no longer be if he committed the crime??? Lol I'm not even halfway through the videos

[@anisa-mb5sn]

They arrested the wrong men

[@lu7222]

he wasn't the right guy lol

[@amberwatson1846]

I thought that exact same thing as bad as it is

[@virgoblack777]

Part 3

[@lu7222]

@@virgoblack777 it's not him, I looked the case up after this video

[@thackeryspapa]

I honestly had to step away from this case for a while cuz I was so upset about how they were treating Colin. I’m so glad it wasn’t him. On my way to the next part!

[@picrureperfect8476]

If there is one thing I’m learning from all of your stories is that the UK media is just horrible

[@4legsalex706]

They are indeed! Absolutely vile!

[@xXPirate-KittyXx]

It’s because of Rupert Murdoch he gives the media cancer.

[@kellyfelly6645]

Not any wore than the American media. That's for sure.

[@picrureperfect8476]

@@kellyfelly6645 we won the war, get over it

[@4legsalex706]

@@kellyfelly6645 I think America would be hard pressed to beat our tabloid media. Blaming the 96 victims of the Hillsborough Disaster for their own deaths was a shining example of the levels they will sink to just to sell papers.

[@janataher6067]

Me frantically trying to pause the video at the starbucks drive through as you’re explaining the sexual letters 😭

[@CallUNexTuesday]

😆

[@Michelle-nt4bz]

ME BUT AT MCDONALDS LOLOL

[@roachspray]

NAHHWHWHW OMG😭😭

[@smileyattitude6807]

Me on lunch break when someone walks in then has to explain whole case in less time than Eleanor does is rough

[@ApparitionCondition]

I honestly feel awful for Colin. And the fact that they likely groomed him into BECOMING a murderer, they were so desperate for a confession.

[@seagull9100]

when he keeps going "ykno" after every sentence in his call LMAOAOAO

[@soggybread5389]

LMAOAOOAAO bruh stfu

[@sp00ky727]

"her police...women...name" eleanor i literally love you, that was so funny

[@breerea9346]

Hearing him talk to a girl he was so genuinely interested in knowing she was just meant to set him up literally broke my heart.

[@JosephinaRenee]

The pentagram symbol is so often misinterpreted 🤦🏻‍♀️ It was a spiritual symbol used by Pagans before being adopted by Satanists. It can be interpreted in many ways, but so many people just assume the worst right off the bat due to dark associations. The world isn't that black and white, though.

[@cheeriototoro8063]

Yeah :) it represents earth, fire, water, air and spirit. It’s a protective symbol. I hate Hollywood for taking it and making it out to be something awful

[@LiquidShivaz]

And know most satanits have nothing to do with satan

[@ann-mariepaliukenas19]

@@cheeriototoro8063 thank you im happy about the Pentangle now

[@dem0litionsss]

and satanists dont even use the pentacle symbol anyway its a completely different one

[@Idkdude50]

Same with the swastika. It's an ancient hindu symbol that's around 4000 years old but no the Nazis had to take it, rotate it slightly and mess up the world 😑