Election Results: ANC-DA Coalition Will Kill The ANC Forever ?

In today's episode, Lungelo KM and Mooshtaffa react to the election results of the National General Elections 2024.
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[@wandile.dlamini_]

Mooshtaffa always leaves me with something new to learn about🙏🏽

[@shaneramaremisa5600]

I don't know who this guy is but I'm impressed.👍

[@user-wt3js7wt1n]

Coalition will work , trust the process

[@NdumisoMazibuko]

Fascinating conversation. Thank you gents.

[@user-tx2jb3ko5t]

I like this guy,his so intellectual

[@tumi2610]

I get what he's saying about the middle class. However the middle class is not gatekeeping proper health services from the lower class, the middle class and everyone already paying medical aid is more concerned about how the services at health institutions will deteriorate to the same level the public health institutions are at. Like he said the intention for such initiatives is often good, but we all know that our intentions and our reality in our country are far apart. Yes we're already paying for private medical aid, but I'd rather pay knowing I'll get covered when I need the services than have more money go to tax and continue have terrible state services.

[@denvernadar]

Well said!

[@buzzzlightyear11y2]

Correct

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

ANC can learn form other countries such as Singapore and Taiwan that has a very good health system that provide proper Universal Health Care to their citizen

[@jenobermeyer7188]

Great convo

[@smanqele]

If not for anything, the new government of multi-party cooperation could be a blessing in disguise for the proper implementation of a huge project like the NHI. Your point about a financial framework is key to this topic. Great material!

[@socertiesDB9]

Cde Mooshtapha is spot👌 on about exporting/trading our way out of poverty. He's the only one with this level of thought process.. lets amplify this message 1000%

[@KAGISOMASEMOLA]

12:59 Aowa wena beloved public economist, it’s not that they “don’t want health care for the poor” it’s rather that they want to protect their own access to healthcare… rightfully so because they work hard for it. The messaging is as important as the framework & structure of it.

[@KAGISOMASEMOLA]

I’m also of the opinion that functional dentistry should be free for all. I’m a farmer so food is important to me (and everyone really).

[@user-eo4iq7yk9q]

This man is business minded are like him,we need people like him

[@2a71c7kc6]

The only youth who is against nhi is still on their parents medical aid shem

[@GodcaresDube]

I disagree, you need to up the standard of the state clinics and hospitals if this is not done NHỈ is useless. Example in a seen the new law says the ambulance must take everyone to the nearest hospital even if it’s private but guess what it’s not happening cos private hospitals don’t have time for government long processes to pay for claims. So like wise you go to government hospitals they run short of medication most of the times.

[@iMbaulaPodcast]

… our mentor told us about this Podcast in the meeting this past week, and we have to leave a message for verification of the task. Nevertheless, we fell in love with this episode and deserved our subscribing and notification on! Thank you for such an informative content from the point of the young adults of South Africa. The future looks hopeful and bright after we watched this.

[@faithing88]

I voted DA because we need DA, MK and EFF came from ANC To expect them to bring changes is not wise,

[@Me20243]

Amazing conversation gentlemen..totally enjoyed it...we need all 4 parties to work together and compete for our votes for the next five years..

[@jacquelinemwanza4761]

Jesus said ask and it shall be given.I subscribed. Praying you get many more subs.

[@EtcEtc779]

Wonderful discussion, guys: wide-ranging and provided some really good insights and ideas. Happy to have stumbled on you both - will definitely share this content.✊

[@asakhan582]

I think they can work together it will be good for the country they can keep an eye on each other with the experience people in the right places in parliament you cannot afford bee the parliament need experience not people sleeping and does not know what is happening

[@brotherrootz1579]

This youth is PROGRESSIVE!!

[@luckymahlangu6374]

Yerrr brilliant ideas from this brother 😂😂. It's very inspiring to see such brilliant young minds. I believe DA + ANC coalition is unlikely because one of them is not coming back alive...Atleast one of them has to make big policy compromises and parties like EFF, MK and VF+ will be waiting to welcome a chunk of voters from this arrangement.

[@ThabsileLeshoro]

💯 correct

[@danielmokubung8991]

Hi guys I fully agree with the digital vote that it will eliminate fraud. We as the country we should move with time of blockchain.

[@Ntokozomasogana]

Not true check the USA elections

[@Fezeka-zl1cg]

I totally agree as well, efficiency, no fraud just everything straight forward ❤

[@jethroabel4802]

Dude - ANC / EFF will kill the ANC AS WELL AS the economy. Same story if it's angled the way of MK. At least with the DA, we step away from the precipice with the economy

[@jethroabel4802]

And look at how they are sitting with the feet 😂 Issa big boy and the smol Boi 😂

[@josephmkhondo125]

Your thinking is colonized (white washed), Oneway or the other a black man must stand on his own same as we were in the passed. The conversation that we all must partake in is how? Look at china, India , Saudi Arabia, Russia and other countries (Singapore). We have best minerals in the world, Agriculture, Land and The sea .we are The leader of Afrika, part of Bricks brought by JZ. There are many things on our side to succeed. Lets think(plan) and Implement.

[@LorindaEastes]

I take my hat of to both Zuma and Zille the best chess players in this election. She knew exactly what she was doing with moonshot . She knew how to keep the Da at 20 per cent . An as for Zuma well done and played

[@TSG0195]

Interesting insight

[@wahwah7701]

DA stagnated so I don't know what's there to congratulate about them

[@Truthseeker-iz3dj]

@@wahwah7701 A lot of voters went to PA and DA still improved from 2019. PA kept them from getting about 2% and MK about another 2% because MK killed off the good work Chris Pappas did as a lot of people voted along loyalty lines.

[@wahwah7701]

@@Truthseeker-iz3dj In 2019 DA got 22% and in 2024 they got 20%. So where is the growth there?

[@ManteMumty]

All thanks to Zuma who divided majority of ANC in to two using tribal line's, while claiming to be loyal member of the party. Maybe he love prophecy of PW Botha (if not mistaken) "ANC will hand over power back to the whites voluntary" today prophecy is fulfilled by Zuma 😂😂😂

[@smanqele]

As a country we have a serious identity issue. Are we trying to be China cheerleaders through our BRICS involvement or are we open to actively seek opportunities in other African nations just like they have an interest in South Africa? I don't get why we are so inward looking when today's economy demands more novel ideas.

[@sheilahiramaneck9800]

Great talk well spoken

[@Manyakes]

@12:47 she was probably not even thinking for her self... Thats what the media does

[@TheAssociateChannel]

He wants DA for his own business

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Now it's a change it's difficult to digest the process it's a quality education 👌 job recruitment process 👏 clean water no lowshedding we can except

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

What is Action SA doing and Eff as long as keep good quality living

[@user-iy4qs2dt1d]

Meaning all goreigner kids free education

[@user-iy4qs2dt1d]

Problem we black people we fight alone.instead of fighting for humans right.Greedy ness is too much bad.

[@philanimthethwa2566]

Wow, what a great Conversation 👍

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

As long as thiefs out no stealing just a normal lifestyle living 👌 ✨️ 💯

[@governancewatch7457]

This is my first time of watching your programme but I'm pretty much disappointed though; I've followed the conversation for over 15 minutes now but still couldn't find bearing with the headline topic

[@manueldube4845]

I think ANC-DA coalition will work for the benefit of South Africa and it's people. Ramaphosa knows it very well, that's why he has good relationship with white people 🗣️

[@Fezeka-zl1cg]

Whose this guy, I don't remember Lungelo intoducing him

And it will be a good thing

[@raymondmakola5858]

This is a place tobe.

[@gladyssannahmthombeni6501]

It will not kill it. It will make the rands stronger and our country will be respected really by know we should find common ground. There's should be no more racist comments because we are also suffering from Tribalism &nepotism. The other thing which kills our economy is trade unions. We people who have moved abroad we are working for companies who have no incentives like Bonus. Car allowance etc. But we have have done well. The other thing South African we should copy from other foreigners how to perform at work and respecting company rules then we will be able to grow

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Anc cannot loot no more time out except the reality ❤

[@reginaldgeorge3291]

🤔 sassa old age pension cannot apply for bank loans 😫 😑 😒 ❓️ How can they be helped!!

[@luckymahlangu6374]

I think what you just said about MK is probably the main reason why it was formed, basically to force the ANC to change its leadership, considering the fact that the ANC + DA is almost impossible.

[@cupidsiza]

A multi party government could just be what we need, so as to not to give too much power and responsibility to one party...each party will hold each other accountable.

[@souldubafroculture1437]

Great content 👌

[@itumelengseeco2844]

On the issue of voter turnout, why is it that some deceased individuals are still on the voter's roll? Does this mean that they are counted when tallying up voter turnout? I have a family member who passed away in 2021 and they were still on the printed voter's roll.

[@ThabsileLeshoro]

Voters Roll is divided into two segments

[@Mr.ExtrodinFaith]

Mooshtaffa 🔥🔥🔥

[@siphamandlakhumalo5074]

WE, NEED THIS GUY IN. PALAMENT

[@user-lg2ov9hq3n]

ANC will work with DA , I am a good member in standing of ANC, EFF makes demands that are not reachable

[@aarongunnz9513]

EFF makes corrupt demands But ANC will be working with EFF and or MK

[@ziblospo]

DA will also make a demand that JS to be deputy president, thus he will follow Rams as president

[@MotlokwaThwii]

EFF demands are ANC policies🤷🏾‍♂️. And what about MK?

[@user-hy2pv4ds6g]

AS MK WE WILL LIKE TO SIT ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE IN NATIONAL PARLIAMENT, ANC AND DA COALITION WILL BE GOOD FOR US IN 2026 TO OFF THE ANC.

[@MotlokwaThwii]

@@user-hy2pv4ds6g Then you're not MK. Zuma's strategies are beyond your comprehension.

[@MaximilienDanton]

Sorry i am watching this video and i think the conversation is great and its super important, so i want to lay out a different option for the government that has been promoted by the SRF: the DA can give the the ANC a confidence and supply agreement. That would mean the anc forms a government and the DA would then block votes of no confidence in the president and they will be given parliamentary oversight and the speaker position.

[@sharonjames2041]

😢PROFITS OVER PEOPLES 😢😢❤

[@manueldube4845]

ANC- MK - EFF coalition = ANC 2009...... let's work with ANC -DA coalition 🇿🇦🗣️

[@MaximilienDanton]

The DA supports universal healthcare. Ill quote from the starting point they envision: Allocate a universal subsidy to every South African citizen and legal resident. Every person will be able to choose whether to buy public or private sector cover with their subsidy. The value of the subsidy would be set in relation to an affordable and comprehensive package of services available within the public health system. It sounds a lot like what you are suggesting. I should also mention that their plan is fully costed meaning they can already draw up a budget that would include this. That is why it isnt as comprehensive as we would all want it to be. However it is part of their aims to jave universal healthcare styled on european democracies.

[@MaximilienDanton]

I guess I should also emphasize that this will not happen because they didn't get enough votes.

[@governancewatch7457]

I'd advise you first always hit the headline topic in the early part of your conversation before narrowing down now to other related contemporary issues.

[@nobukhosizungu2078]

Its been dead long ago let it be come 2029 some party will rise stronger for ppl of southafrica for those who remain

[@aarongunnz9513]

ANC and DA coalition will rescue the country. ANC/EFF and or MK will hammer the final nail in the coffin of South Africa

[@zuzemoyo7696]

The bottom line why the DA is considered central is because they are a WHITE SUPREMACISTS entity. Meaning, they have controlled the Wealth since 1994. Meaning that BLACKS are out of it. Meaning the ANC has always been a FLAG waving toothless Party. Hence their fear of ZUMA when he brought BLACKS onto the table and was accused of STATE CAPTURE.

[@williamshakur8715]

Non of this political party will rescue south Africa .non of this political party is informing people about technology no more physical labour 60%work force is already eliminated and most of people are not aware eventually people will overthrow the government

[@MotlokwaThwii]

Rescue it by privatizing state owned institutions??

[@akanibaone7082]

Seriously, need the da, mercy Most High

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

BEHIND the scene the DA party in South Afrika ((an off-shoot of the Apartheid era white minority ruling National Party) has been working to form a coalition government with the ANC since 2019. This is what the DA wanted as confirmed in a leaked audio recording of Helen Zille (former DA party leader) from 2019: "We can consolidate the DA around 20% of the vote. Then the ANC falls to 40%. I'd make a tough demand on Ramaphosa's ANC & go into coalition with them. That must be our aim for the next election. We want 20%SAns, remember there is only 8% white." Source: KZbin: South Africa election was rigged (Time: 2:22 min) by KHAMIT ETHIC. As long as Ramaphosa is President of the ANC it should come as no surprise that the ANC forms an alliance with the DA-both the DA and the ANC are funded by the money class that dominate the SA economy.

[@FarberBob678]

The DA descends from the Democratic Party (which contested the 1994 elections against the National Party, ANC, IFP, etc). The Democratic Party was formed during the era of Apartheid as a representative of white people who were against Apartheid.

[@FarberBob678]

Quote from the DA's Wikipedia page: "The modern day DA is in large part a product of the white parliamentary opposition to the ruling National Party. The origin of the party can be traced to the mid-1950s when some younger members of the United Party felt that they were not providing strong enough opposition to the National Party and its policy of Apartheid, causing them to break away and form the Progressive Party in 1959. In the 1970s, as it rose to become the official opposition, the party merged with more splinters from the disintegrating United Party and become known first as the Progressive Reform Party and then as the Progressive Federal Party. The Progressives sought to change the system from within, but in doing so chose to comply with Apartheid legislation outlawing multi-racial membership. During this time, the party was led by liberal-minded opponents of apartheid, such as Jan Steytler, Helen Suzman, Zach de Beer, Colin Eglin, Frederik van Zyl Slabbert and Harry Schwarz. In 1989, it merged with two smaller reformist organisations to become the Democratic Party, a name that was retained into the 1990s when freedom was achieved. It was marginalised by the National Party's shift towards the center after 1990, and fared relatively poorly in the first democratic election in 1994, won by the African National Congress."

[@FarberBob678]

The DA is an offshoot of the Democratic Party which began as a liberal, anti-Apartheid party in 1989. It contested the 1994 elections (against the ANC, National Party, IFP, etc).

[@FarberBob678]

The DA descends from the Democratic Party, which contested the 1989 election against the National and Conservative parties, and the 1994 election against the ANC, National Party, IFP, etc.

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

@@FarberBob678 Do proper research. The DA was formed by the apartheid era National Party. #1: National Party (NP), South African political party, founded in 1914, which ruled the country from 1948 to 1994. Its following included most of the Dutch-descended Afrikaners and many English-speaking whites. The National Party was long dedicated to policies of apartheid and white supremacy, but by the early 1990s it had moved toward sharing power with South Africa’s Black majority. In June 1996 the National Party left the national unity government-its first time out of government since 1948. The party sought to recast its image by changing its name to the New National Party (NNP) in December 1998. In 1999, however, its support fell, and it won only 28 seats in Parliament. The following year the party formed the Democratic Alliance with the Democratic Party and the Federal Alliance, though the NNP withdrew in 2001. Source: National Party (NP) | Definition, History, & Facts, Britannica www.britannica.com › topic › National-Party-polit... NOTE: NP→NNP→DA #2 Democratic Alliance South Africa’s official opposition is rooted in the apartheid era liberal order with its original incarnation being the Progressive Party founded in 1959. After many mergers and breakaways, the party fought the 1994 elections as the Democratic Party, with Tony Leon as its leader, but secured less than 2% of the vote. The Democratic Party became the official opposition in 1999 before merging (and eventually splitting) with the remnants of the apartheid era National Party and Federal Party to become the Democratic Alliance (DA) in 2000. SOURCE:South Africa Elections: Meet the parties The Africa Report.com; www.theafricareport.com › south-africa-elections.

[@Butcher_birds0905]

Anc -Da- Ifp will work perfectly ,look i have nothing against Mk but we are not gonna be between Zuma and Ramaphosa hate and already Mk thier fighting against each other

[@reginaldgeorge3291]

🧠 .🧠 .🧠 .🧠 . 👍 👌 💯 %

[@revelationpowerhour9149]

Just like the DEDOLLARISATION you have been pushing 😂😂 I am so disappointed by these young men. 😂

[@KAGISOMASEMOLA]

Family values warra

[@ManteMumty]

Sacrificing Ramaphosa will be creating Limpopo new MK, provinces always stand by their own 😂😂😂

[@darlingtonmachilar6745]

The narrative of government of national unit is nonsensical. The ANC, MK and the EFF can form pro black government

[@karelgericke9172]

Any other coalition ,other than the DA and Anc will be a disaster for SA economy. Eff,mk and pa will destroy everything that's left, with there radically policies. No investment will come to SA.

[@FindingNeli]

Lunghelo, your conversation game is giving real talk with Anele 🥹 so refreshing to witness constructive dialogue.

[@lanas.6234]

White people already contribute their taxes to South Africa. They have different funds to help disadvantaged people. I think cooperation is better than victim blaming. The problem is in the government system that empowers itself by taking that power from black people and keeping racial divide to have always someone to blame, but not themselves.

[@Kayaonanao]

Viva Albagana atoles aleste

[@joecruiser]

🤣

[@KAGISOMASEMOLA]

29:00 The EFF is a party of confusion, they shouldn’t have any real power. Simple example, they dress working class, yet they claim that they appeal to the youth *student* vote. How do you reconcile that? Students are at university because they hope to be middle class or better. Working class have limited aspirations for highly intellectual vocations, academics (mental gymnastics) is far removed physically labour, particularly unskilled labour. Today they want the to be servants (minister) of finance. Why not mining or higher education? As you put it, a vote for the ANC is a vote for hope. Ramaphosa is a lot of things but he is not outright incompetent and corrupt, as unsettling as that may sound, he has run a clean shop. I still suffer from Ramaphoria, I expect him to be the best candidate for leading a government of unity. He managed to get white money into DD’s pocket… that’s a political hole in one.

[@josephmkhondo125]

People goes to villages to campaign for votes driving R500 000 vehicles, should they be waking or riding bicycles because those people at the villages are poor? so why Malema's dress code? that's limited thinking. lets focus on the heart of the matter. PAC moved away from the ANC, when its leaders were asked why? the said ANC moved away from the Ideology of its formation, so the PAC is continuing with that Ideology. so EFF/MK did not move away from the ANC but the ANC moved away from the freedom charter. so EFF/MK continuing with the freedom charter.

[@MosesSebatana]

Where were you when Eff was formed and when they adopted the student, do research i gave you a way to

[@barryah4132]

EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF EFF

[@sibongilemabaso2250]

Why so being negative and narrow minded about coalition govt 😅

[@josephmkhondo125]

your comment does not make sense based on how the MK have managed it self thus far, look at it legal battles, they won, how MK was planned and formed how they campaigned, the results KZN 40% National 15%, have you had the spokesperson of the MK when interviewed the brain and wisdom, how they handled the press conference at The Roc IEC, how they handled the matter of those smaller parties, come 2026 in KZN the ANC will not govern any local municipality, be careful of the support JZ have in KZN and in SA, people are not aware that JZ when he was the President was attacked by the media and hated by the colonizer for what he did in Afrika and black business in RSA, so JZ is the threat to white minority privileges. JZ is better than Cyril because he has learned and will correct his mistakes because his support is black people while Cyril on the other hand is supported by white business. MK will grow stronger

[@SBUMAKOYA]

Great convo