Elections in South Africa | Bobby and Penuel debates who to vote for

[@davidkotze4140]

Well said Penuel ! Its up to the youngsters now...with much love from a 72yr old white South African that's seen a lot...but also sees the potential within our Beautiful Country ...BOKKE !! YNWA ❤❤❤

[@siyabongamthombeni5695]

Am sitting here and listening, and I realize the power of being a good speaker/communicator, which is what Bobby and Pen represent and always emphasize about. This realization sparked up mainly because of how I feel like I fumbled my school project presentation yesterday. Damn man I really yearn to speak and be able to connect my mouth to my brain like these men. But I believe it's a learning curve and a skill not attained overnight. Another amazing episode with amazing insights, shout out MMM💯❤‍🔥

[@0761Siban]

No, the problem is the system, forcing you to communicate in a foreign language. Africa has to correct this nonsense.

[@siyabongamthombeni5695]

@@0761Siban Yeah you might be right, but don't you think it's for the benefit of the whole world to have a common universal language? I look at the english language as a medium to connect the whole world, more than thinking of it as a superiority indicator

[@mondek5482]

At 52:43 Herman Mashaba was mayor of Joburg for three years and built a great track record hence its the third largest party in Johannesburg.

[@danewillams6799]

Mpho Phalatse was also making progress but was voted out too soon , its the DA that makes progress not just an individual.

[@mondek5482]

@@danewillams6799 I disagree Randall Williams in Tshwane a dismally mayor versus Cilliers Brink who has made good progress thus far. The individual leader is critical to implement what needs to be done.

[@danewillams6799]

@@mondek5482 Randall dealt with so much , from strikes caused by ANC and EFF to ANC putting Tshwane under administration,To the DA running a 7 party coalition in Tshwane. Tshwane is hard to fix without a DA majority or at least a coalition of less parties.

[@babolico9354]

THE EFF DID THAT NOT HERMAN GO AND GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT..

[@dineshanpillay5944]

Eff wanted tenders while mashaba cleared buildings for rdp housing and student accommodation, also added 1000 cops to the force, he canceled money wasting contracts, all mashaba not eff, you never see eff talk about this cause it was clear it wasnt them, cause they would be doing it now, you go do your research 😂😂😂😂​@babolico9354

[@propergander6608]

Jussus Bra Penuel.... I'm blown away by your.... Umm..... Just by YOU. Amazing insight and am 100% in agreement. Fok. BRILLIANT.

[@davidkotze4140]

I wish the World could be run by people like you guys !! You make absolute sense !! Thank you for you !! 🙏💓

[@dfalifestyle1163]

I'm subscribing to this chanel because of Penuel, I don't want to miss any of the informative sit downs you guys have.

[@MitMakMasterclass]

appreciate you.

[@HelenaOlivier-l4q]

Small parties are essential in Parliament as they put pressure on the Mainstream ideologies. The big parties are set in their ways and are not representative of the true voice of the people.

[@HelenaOlivier-l4q]

@@mike2900 Any vote should be earned. If the big parties keep playing puppets for the Globalists, they should not be empowered. Rather get more truthful and contending voices into parliament.

[@zwelakhenkosi3779]

An insightful discussion bringing about a valuable perspective.

[@Destiny948-q5h]

Two exquisite individuals....very informative....🙏

[@davidkotze4140]

Love your debates guys !! There's some genuine wisdom rotating !! From a 72yr whitie trying to survive on SASSA grant !! ...Neil de Beer ..UIM ?? ....I like this fellow...comes across as someone that's a proper South African ! ...what's your opinion ? 🤔

[@leslenesantana7575]

Agree most people don’t know what they voting for, they think it’s a game!

[@Bjm365]

This was really very dope, felt shorty even 😬 But imagine if these are some of the conversations we have in our corridors and street corners, if we had these respectful debates and not be cult-striken but have open and honest discussions. This could actually help us shape our future politics n how effectively we can build our communities, society and our country. Kudos guys, I have thoroughly enjoyed this 👍🏾

[@Neo-SA]

best duo in Podcasting after Sol and Mac G (my opinion)

[@MitMakMasterclass]

Appreciate you sir.

[@dikoenatsolo5561]

Factos

[@User47HD]

Those two aren't very intellectual compared to these guys. Still entertaining though.

[@tshepishochuene1280]

​@User47HD Mac has built the biggest podcast this continent has ever seen, and Sol is actually quite intelligent...very intelligent infact, and quite well-informed. Don't underestimate those 2.

[@User47HD]

@@tshepishochuene1280 I watched their podcast with Gayton Mckenzi and John Steenhuisen, and felt dumber just listening to them.

[@louisnaidu9140]

Excellent analysis of the masses that will vote and their knowledge of why they are voting.

[@donovanstrachan1938]

Some vote because they benefiting. Others vote for service delivery. We are planning to vote strategically because we have a greater plan for South Africa.

[@ChrisJackson-c3i]

Interesting. debate we should have a lot more open live dabates as we get older we certainly become far wiser and exspirenced

[@Incognito-s3l]

Beautiful conversation ❤❤

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

Many Old people are mentors and observers … they have seen and still see through experienced “eyes”

[@MoreThanRuan]

1:44:30 OHM is going to become a force to be reckoned with. They are not cute & naive. They are genuine, brave and beyond smart. It takes a lot of balls to do the right thing and I don’t see anyone else going into a direct where the people actual win. People are going to start waking up and they will ditch politics for the trash that it is and stand up for something better.

[@morganandtylersworld9529]

Im voting OHM. The party to end all parties, even themselves.

[@leigh-schaunbrown8594]

I loved this discussion, Bobby I would love to sit down with you just for mentorship

[@esihlezwide3128]

What a conversation 🙌🏽

[@jamesmoulder5579]

100% correct how can you vote if you're not capable...BUT how do you define a capable voter?

[@makhosi6]

Also mention the impact of the sabotage by the private sector.

[@giannamokoka8212]

ActionSA all the way ✅💚

[@davidkotze4140]

Well explained Penuel ....ANC +MK= THE old ANC >>>>Very clever strategy right under our noses !! Damn !...the bloody clever ANC strategists !...but who may they be ..?? Mmmmmm ??🤔

[@leslenesantana7575]

EFF = ANC

[@-ef5sz]

+ EFF = ANC

[@Punker23]

No… Zuma wants to remove Cyril. It’s his sole reason for starting MK.

[@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou]

Obaba is the only man amongst the challenging teams,having done serious battle,scared but he comes back standing proud with sharpend spear,leadership like few have ever seen,and they will follow,he has earned his respect,its a privilege and honour as well as an education to observe obaba,see him dictating the future of rsa.

[@davidkotze4140]

Best track record....DA !! ...and i only passed standrd 6 !!

[@mossfairy3060]

That's a great way to look at it, well done young man🎉

[@tonitappous2422]

See , DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay.

[@johankruger9507]

Not telling anybody who I voted for. We voted this morning in another country. It is said that this was the biggest turnout here in recent years.

[@jean-pierrevanwyk5885]

What’s up London!! 💪💪

[@Mk22022]

Hi Bobby, I've said this to Penuel as well - can you load your podcast on Spotify as well? Edit how does this only have 265 views after a day?

[@mossfairy3060]

DA all the way 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@tonitappous2422]

See - Impressive new school in the Western Cape, KZbin.

[@shopekassie]

You cannot use age to set a cut-off age when to not vote. Trump/ Zuma is still willing to stand for the public office. There are old people who are still economically active in their careers.

[@ElfriedaBasson-z1r]

PA for SA❤

[@tonitappous2422]

Why I Cannot Vote For Gayton Mckenzie, Citizen Concerned, KZbin.

[@dineshanpillay5944]

Action SA💚💚💚

[@Stizo2002]

Not all old people are senile or have dementia. They are affected by decisions made by the government.

[@hannaellis9091]

You are so RIGHT....

[@davidkotze4140]

Fully agree...Value Added Awareness !! ❤❤

[@Edits09553]

DA no

[@tombimashri8149]

Thsts why Prime Minister hire ADVISORS

[@leslenesantana7575]

#voteDA to #RescueSA 🙏🇿🇦💙

[@top-gnews8333]

We want ourland first then we talk

[@tonitappous2422]

​@top-gnews8333 Do you know that the most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the Western Cape? The DA routinely hands out Title Deeds (real ownership) to poor people to land and properties in places where the DA governs. The EFF on the other hand wants the State to own all the land in SA, not individuals!! If you want the benefits of real individual ownership, you should vote DA!!

[@ddhuz00100]

​@top-gnews8333 ANC in power 30yrs, where's the land🤔

[@davidkotze4140]

You guys funny !! 😂🤣😂

[@maryjooste6161]

DA all the way!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@pieterswarts2830]

Keep children out of voting and let them enjoy playing I agree that a person should be sound minded and able to handle responsibility

[@PetronelaMahlangu]

Black tax is not only limited to the money you sent home, we blacks go to an extent of building houses buy furniture or even buy your parent's a car before you into yourself. I did and I know I am not the only one.

[@Penuelism]

That's also a part of Black tax. It's not just straight money sent.

[@robhall8031]

DA clearly has the better track record of all the parties. You guys really glossed over that fact. EFF’s track record of coalition government with the ANC has been horrendous. The obvious choice in this election is the DA.

[@zukile7896]

No citizen of another country must be allowed to vote in SA or in any country. Law must be changed to One Country One Vote!

[@Punker23]

Nonsense. Many South Africans were forced to or chose to leave because of BEE and no job opportunities etc. Many of us want to come back to family we had to leave behind. We still care about our homeland and its future and therefore have a right to vote out of country!

[@phumelelomthimude8082]

💚🖤💚🖤 It's Ubaba Ka Duduzani for me ✌️

[@Punker23]

8:13 how drunk can you get when you have to queue for 4 hrs to vote? How many drinks do you bring with you? Silly point.

[@nicovanzyl9855]

Kan kan nie leuen adverteer en dit bo aan sit nie.

[@rosalindgerber]

qualified voting is a good idea

[@PetronelaMahlangu]

Panuel I have do not miss your conversations on this platform but this one I just couldn't pick up anything from your guest is like you were talking to yourself, who is this guy who seems so clueless?

[@AndreCillie]

Wow Bobby calling another person “our president” tells you all you need to know

[@FikileMkhabela-r3e]

Arise South Africa

[@nareshchhagan5382]

Pen you did not reveal who you will be voting for

[@mossfairy3060]

We all paying vat, so we all can vote provinsiouly Nationally only those who pay personal tax As long as your alive paying vat you can vote

[@michaelgilewicz5918]

The fact that after the wasted years anyone would chose to vote for Zuma is a tragedy .

[@zizoh3993]

its becoz things have become worce...n Penuel explains very well why ppl vote for ANC.

[@michaelgilewicz5918]

@@zizoh3993 Things undeniably became much worse because of Zuma. I heard what Pen said, but what does it say about the voters of SA if the rationale is literally "he may be a total thief who looted and destroyed the country, but this 82 year old man is Zulu and I am Zulu and he helped my cousin get rich so I will vote for him." I want to give the people more credit than that.

[@zizoh3993]

@@michaelgilewicz5918 exactly my point, that ppl on the other side are not thinking from your perspective. They believe they were better off with Zuma than current. I actually agree with you but we have to balance our opinion because we cant really blame voters. Thats why Pen said DA needs to change their strategy if they want to get their marketing right.

[@LonelyTreeSunset]

Quite simple...if you like the idea of living in a failed state, vote ANC, EFF, or MK. If you like the idea of eradicating corruption, crime, and poverty, as well as building a resilient and high-performaning economy (the best on the continent), then put your faith in a credible opposition party or independent. The MPC has enormous potential to right the ship.

[@SgtScud]

I do believe both the views about who should vote is incorrect. Youth brings change. Not always good but not always bad....today old people should vote tomorrow old people with degrees the day after only people with a certain amount of money should vote....The rich man doesnt know hunger. Everyone should vote

[@ForexTradingwithTeboho]

606k subscribers😎

[@Incognito-s3l]

4:58 😂😂😂😂

[@Bjm365]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@tombimashri8149]

Pse click LIKES Guyz Be fair very smart nd informative.

[@Edits09553]

Vote.PA💚💚💚💚

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

You suggesting administrative nightmare😂

[@tonitappous2422]

Do you know that four out of every five new jobs in SA over the past five years were created in the DA governed Western Cape?? If you want to live in a successful and prosperous country where people have jobs and where our country's infrastructure, including public schools and especially public hospitals really work, then you should vote for the DA and Multi Party Charter to make it happen and to take SA forward again!! See, DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay.

[@Penuelism]

Who are you voting for???

[@nedor64]

This time for the OHM, we should look at the real problem which is the party political system. If you think about it this way, there is a constant fight between hundreds of political parties to the detriment of the whole country. This system is not sustainable, it is unfair and not democratic, the people are not free.

[@Incognito-s3l]

EFF

[@nedor64]

@@Incognito-s3l Luckily you won't get too much support 🤣

[@Incognito-s3l]

​@@nedor64I'm voting for people, I will be able to hold accountable in the future compared to pensioners who will be coffins when they have to answer for thier actions. The young people in leadership have more motivation to create a brighter future for their kids unlike pensioners who have already setup their kids for better opportunities. It's a long term view that me myself might not live to see, but I'm glad I'm planting the tree that will provide shade in the future.

[@LionGangMusic]

EFF

[@HerbieMarais]

let your vote be multiplied by your tax bracket. i.e. If you pay no tax, your vote counts 1, if you are in the lowest income tax bracket, your vote counts 2 etc etc, that way everybody has a vote, and the uneducated masses' vote gets balanced out by the educated few, who also pay the for the uneducated's social benefits.

[@CyrilMabela]

Panuel, u r wrong 2 think that what is best 4 u must be best 4 everyone. If these people think anc helps them then let it be. Because i also question anyone who think they vote 4 DA, i feel dey must be insane, and anyone who can even consider, must not be allowed to vote. Because, these are murderers, forget about when it was formed, these are apartheid apologist, dey dnt deserve to be going all over, trying to fool people. But it remains my opinion, and i cnt use it as a base and further elevate it to be the ultimate truth, therefore use it to make decisions which impacts others. It remains an opinion, discussion around it cant go beyond and have adverse effect on de voiceless. Further note that, this is a cycle on our way to recovery from colonial syndromewhich is made worse by further mistreatment by the current regime. Damaged goods are damaging other goods

[@babolico9354]

EFF 2024 ❤❤❤❤❤

[@thulitukisi1711]

Eiy man, I gotta be honest, Bobby's diplomacy and non-partison views and positions on issues or questions, gets a bit tiring. Sometimes you just want a straight answer and telling where you stand. Nonetheless, great leadership style, when not overly abused (could seem patronizing or even self-degrading).

[@PietSwart]

The majority of white people I know, also take care of family in that way(black tax).

[@davidkotze4140]

Ok....I'll admit .I'm 72yr old ..and have nothing of any wisdom to share b'cos im too f*****g old .....so i won't say anything....or vote !!

[@karabotauyaborwamakunyane1301]

Don't explore myself my guy, you make the context boring for me. Allow the interviewee to pronounce his opinion

[@admirenyathi5506]

EFF EFF EFF national,,,MK MK provincial

[@khwezimemela1730]

EFF ❤ is da only hope 2 our country's problems

[@Thato2448]

Mass Stockholm Syndrome.

[@babolico9354]

EFF 2024❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ VOTE EFF

[@sharonjames2041]

😢VOTE EFF OUTRIGHT 2024 ✊🏿don't be scared ❤

[@johannstrauss3779]

Only fools and qwere Qweres vote for the EFF. EFF copied all their policies from Zimbabwe

[@tonitappous2422]

Our People Love Criminals In Politics, Citizen Concerned, KZbin.

[@ddhuz00100]

Our SA will become the next Zim. 🥺

[@lizzynthoroane1312]

Voting EFF unsppologetic Aaaaammmaaannnddddllla❤❤❤

[@tonitappous2422]

Why I Cannot Vote For Gayton Mckenzie, Citizen Concerned, KZbin.

[@Edits09553]

Pa

[@LionGangMusic]

EFF ✊🏾 ✊🏾 ✊🏾

[@lindamadlala8366]

EFF All the way!!

[@KNathi1]

I don't get how this car dealership has a podcast on politics even... 🫤

[@tonitappous2422]

Why I Cannot Vote For Gayton Mckenzie, Citizen Concerned, KZbin.