Electric Pickup Truck Axles - China Part 4

[@Broken_Orbital]

Chinese: Solid Colors Canadian: Plaid

[@MrFakit]

*Mackinaw

[@rbutter9200]

Canadian tuxedo

[@marcothehammer]

This Yank thought they really 'looked' Canadian... before I realized they all looked like lumberjacks. Eh? This reveals a side of China I've heard little about over the years. It's aggravating to face the fact that I have no idea how accurate (or honest?) the media has been, especially the past 10-20 years. It wasn't too long ago that I, along with most, took the media and government at their word, now it seems like it's not even close.

[@conmanumber1]

Carhartt

[@Neberheim]

So it’s Dana! Researching eAxles is how I found Edison in the first place; I’ve been trying to figure out who the supplier is without bugging them with an email, and I'm glad to hear that they have been willing to work with you when others weren't.

[@Ratkill9000]

It's a good thing Rich brought up the frame rail dimension issue. Some would forget that. Even leaf perches will be different between truck generations even in the same size. For example, Stephen Cox a mobile heavy equipment and diesel mechanic, had to install a different axle in his 2001 F350 because the original one broke. He got one from a 2005-07 and the leaf perches if I remember correctly were too far apart. So he had to cut and re-weld them at the correct distances so they would fit. I think he was fine for the locations for the shocks, just not the leaf springs. Then with Ram trucks from I think it was 2014, the 2500 trucks went away from leaf springs to coil springs and if you had money, air bags. If I had to take a guess on how you guys are going to accommodate for the different setups, all the spring mounts and shock mounts will be added by per vehicle and not from the supplier. Since even with some model year changes there could be enough of a difference to make it an issue.

[@Hybris51129]

Makes sense as I remember Ford getting praise for the better ride in their trucks at that time because they switched to longer leaf springs that also avoided loosing weight capacity and without going full Dodge squat everytime you dared to put more than 5 lbs of cargo in the bed.

[@sebastiant5695]

The integrated Axle at 3:47min will be the game changer. Can not wait to put one or two into my Pickup.

[@FFLFFS]

Or put on my 35 foot holiday 5th wheel trailer. Saving a ton of fuel. 👍

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

​@@FFLFFS, and regen going down hills

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Or in to Muscle Cars - little modern generator under the hood, E-Axle under the rear, go hunting Tesla's for laughs. Heck, think of a light weight A-body picking on the 5000+ pounds of a Rivian. And what goes under a muscle car, usually fits under a Cobra clone.

[@FFLFFS]

@@PiDsPagePrototypes Gotta love the torque

[@henrycarlson7514]

So Wise , Thank You for showing a different view of China

[@ianmckay1780]

Looks like you made good progress with the axles, and hope you get what you want from the meetings. Glad to see you enjoying the change of culture and hope you recover in time for the flight home. As always best wishes from UK.

[@repalmore]

For those that aren't familiar with doing business in China, drinking is a HUGE part of the social part of doing business in China. Not just when foreigners come but any business dealings in China.

[@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567]

👍 awesome to see China through a production side.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Fun fact, high speed trains have long noses as much for aerodynamics as for the sake of reducing the abrupt noise they make entering tunnels.

[@pan6593]

Don‘t know about the noise, but on high speed the spontaneous pressure rise is utmost important.

[@oh-k-den2640]

I want an Edison style diesel-electric bugout bus so bad. Hope these axles help brings that closer to reality

[@TheDogsBox]

I really, really hope you are successful. I have a 2000 E450 Cutaway Van Ambulance conversion to an RV. I expect that I will be exploring in it for the rest of my natural life.

[@i-love-comountains3850]

My neighbor has a decommissioned ambulance, too, and for a second I thought you were them, but your rig is different. 😅 small world though lol

[@TheDogsBox]

@@i-love-comountains3850 this would have been gold

[@KentWarnick]

I'm excited for you guys and the future success of Plug-In hybrid, electric trucks. It's a little hard for me to see you half to go to China for the drive train and batteries. They are probably 5 to 10 years ahead of us in that technology. And their production capability is second to none. I visited China's lithium battery factories back in 2018. It was an eye-opening experience I will cherish and never forget. You could fill a cup of coffee to the brim accelerate from 0 to 300 kilometers back to zero and never spill a drop on the first class service table on that High-Speed train. The cities I visited were basically washed down and cleaned every night no homeless or unemployed people there that I witnessed. Don't get me wrong. I could never accept their social credit score and lack of freedom or privacy. I love my country and we are facing some tough decisions in the future. Only we can decide how our future will be. Most of the people I met in China are good people. I still keep in contact with a few of them today. They have a beautiful country. I hope to someday return there for another visit.

[@gormauslander]

Whoah, a comment about China that isn't open xenophobia. That's crazy. It's also nice that you were able to appreciate what they do well while still offering criticism of things they do wrong. People are complicated, nations even more so.

[@Neberheim]

Thank you for demonstrating that whatever views you hold toward the geopolitics and policies of a national government, shouldn't reflect on the actual humans of that country.

[@theolich4384]

Rest assured for one bit that the "social credit score" is one of the most popular lies about China. Which hardly gets debunked and just keeps coming back.

[@baboerben]

You have no idea what social credit means to Chinese people. When we accumulate 1,000 points, we can exchange it for a succubus from the government. For women, it may not be so good. They need to accumulate 2,000 credit points to exchange it for a 18yr handsome boy.

[@奧吧馬拜啦登]

the Social Credit Score is a total BS from the NED!

[@elierhernandez1]

Make it happen boys!!! The world is waiting!!! Literally 😍

[@capnkirk5528]

One thing I really appreciate about Edison is that they WENT to China, saw things for themselves and understand how much of the perception here in Canada about China is based on racism and ugly propaganda filtering up from vested US interests. (Those SAME US interests who refused to sell to Edison - because that's how a free market works, right America?). If DeBoss had this in place right now AND had capacity, I would go find a reasonable old F150 and have them do the conversion. Even though it's not terribly practical for me (I don't need a pickup anymore), it would be a toy and new tech that I would spend money on. But I think DeBoss will be booked up for years once they can get these kits rolling.

[@alexwalker8422]

We hate the CCP, so do the Chinese who are not a part of it. The only people who don't are the failures in the corporate scene who take advantage of the cheap labor of China, the CCP themselves, and those who have fallen for their lies, and the lies of those who advocate for them in efforts to normalize our dealing with them.

[@alexwalker8422]

There are devils everywhere in power, it's simply easier if you don't have to finesse what you do in fear of retaliation from the people, who are still able to hear news of the wrong doings of their own country and speak out against their own country and not die, in order to perform non lethal consent based organ harvesting. They shouldn't even be allowed to ask, but they are only able to do so if they are given permission, whereas in China, uyghur Muslims are gathered up without cause en masse and placed in concentration camps where organ harvesting occurs without a second thought. Spite for our own governments is able to exist openly, how are you ok with a government which is far more deserving of this but who is silencing anybody who exhibits their feeling this way? What's your first thought about concentration camps other than the gathering of the Japanese during world war two? You would be insane not to immediately notice the immense differences between those and the ones had by the Nazis, and the other, Chinese Nazis, but hey, it's not like it had everything to do with a severe risk associated with Japanese people in the middle of a war with Japan. I believe it was a mistake, but there is no mistake in gathering religious minorities and profiting off their bodies, it is deliberate pure evil without the protection the rest of the world is fortunate to have. Was America harvesting organs and leaving the Japanese in cells? The conscience you have for the foul players in the rest of the world is essential indeed, it is part of how we prevent it, but the ignorance you have to the limitless gangrene of corruption and abuse that is the CCP is something we cannot allow to persist. The foothold we have against their depraved world domination is essential, and the forces who seek to compromise it are clearly at work here.

[@WANDERER0070]

​@@alexwalker8422youve been brainwashed bro see Jerrys take on China or Living in China or Katherines journey east ❤ thnx

[@linus631]

China is the future! Glad to see these young men get it.

[@jamonmang6099]

I cant wait to do this to my truck.

[@alporan9087]

So if I had to guess,, for the retrofits of pickups, it looks like you are going to strap an e-motor to the existing differential. Flip the axle 180 dgrees so that the diff cover faces inwards, take off the cover plate, pop on the e-motor with an adaptor gear to couple with the existing gears and you have a solution. So for the 4x4, it would be the same with the front diff/axle. All you need at that point is custom designing adaptors for the different differentials. Cheaper to manufacture and you keep the existing axle with rotors = reduce the costs vs swapping in a new integrated axle. Just a suspicion based on what you show at 4:45 in the video...

[@flyingrat492]

I mean right before that they mentioned exactly why they wouldn’t do that

[@sebastiant5695]

depending on the age, you likely need to rebuilt the differential, that is a ton of labor and specific parts + tools. Brake components are cheap. Especially when they go with drums. (there is no reason to use disks - most breaking will be regen. Just swapping the axle is much less work and you got everything new. And you can sell that old axles.

[@samjubilee6593]

I am intrigued by electronic differential, meaning inner and outer wheel can turn at a different rpm (angular velocity), controlled by software & electronics. Doing away with mechanical differential gearing seems mechanically simpler (less moving parts) and cheaper to make (bevel & hypoid gears, to transfer rotation from drive shaft to differential, are complex to machine). The LeTorneau heavy equipment, with separate electric motors for each wheel, would have had to use something like this (except no software back in the 1960s, lol). But they moved much more slowly, with planetary gears in each hub. Edison Motors needs highway speeds for their heavy trucks and pickup truck conversions. It will be interesting to see what they come up with, but I like the idea of doing away with mechanical differential gearing, if possible. I'm sure their are pros and cons.

[@jazzmusiccontinues1134]

When you rotate an axle 180, the vent which is a welded barbed tube in a lot of axles will now be on the bottom, the drain plug will be on the top, the fill plug will be at the wrong level/ location, the spring hangers and shock mounts will need to be cut off and rewelded in the correct locations for the new axle position. Then, when you manage to shoehorn in a second pinion gear where the rear cover used to be, the 10 to 14 rear cover bolts won’t be up to the task of transferring the torque loads or supporting the weight of an electric motor as they were never designed for those uses and will probably shear off if the axle housing doesn’t crack first. If the axle in question even has a rear cover. Some don’t, like the Ford 9”. And as Deboss said straight cut gears are superior to helical when regen is a consideration. All around bad idea, which is probably why these guys never seriously considered it

[@barkobama7385]

I'm guessing they discussed how to make the mount points on their e axles modular rather than how to shoehorn a motor into existing crusty axles.

[@wobblysauce]

The hub motors are still good for inter-city, agricultural use.

[@mrricky3816]

Thanks!

[@EdisonMotors]

Thank you for your support! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@bernietoast2686]

Great series of videos guys!!! I wish you all the success you deserve. Disappointing to read anti Chinese comments where clearly the companies you are dealing with are treating you gfuys, and their business in a way North America should be emulating instead of complaining.

[@wbball15]

The irony of the "Kings of Industrial Espionage" having concerns about 'information getting out' is not lost.

[@remix-yy1hs]

What do you think the cia does? Who kidnapped a ceo's daughter?

[@__WJK__]

So true, funny how they see things differently when they want to protect their idea + all the effort/work that goes into these things.

[@Neberheim]

Dana are the kings of industrial espionage? Or are you treating a billion people as a single monolithic entity?

[@SimJDKS]

To be fair, most ip was give to them in trade for slave wages.

[@robotsix6268]

If you stole something, you don't want that info getting out.

[@luimackjohnson302]

Amazing! Thank you for sharing this video. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!

[@__WJK__]

“Rad Bad Sea of Plaid” Making it happen LET’S GO!!

[@M_Gargantua]

One of the risks of hub motors i've seen a lot in all the student prototype cars at the competitions is that they are much more susceptible to damage, and its an expensive fix. Also you've got a lot of extra unsprung rotating mass which is awful for ride quality and kinematics. I think the inboard motors with stub axels are the superior design, especially if the inboard motors have their own compliant mounting to minimize the drive angle as the outboard suspension moves. Its something that can only be done with electric and its does some very nice things for suspension geometry and packaging.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Unsprung mass is a non issue. Rolls Royce ride quality is as good as it gets, you think RR wheels are light?

[@Neberheim]

Same thoughts. My dream is to retrofit a 70 series Land Cruiser but as much as I want to like the eAxle, I’m worried about what two hours of washboard road would do to it.

[@johnwenzel2003]

​@@NeberheimIf the axel was split to anchor the motor to the chassis and allow the drive to the wheels to react to the terrain, the suspension would mitigate most vibrational stresses. There is a manufacturer that uses such a system, but to my knowledge they have yet to apply the design to an e-axle .

[@ignasanchezl]

So while this does affect the suspension dynamics on high speed driving and racing, I doubt this will be a concern at all with heavy duty trucks. Sure you might get additional vibration, and wouldn't be ideal on a baja truck, but come on, people slap heavy ass wheels and tires on their trucks just for looks, I doubt it will be an issue. If that was a concern, trucks would have switched to independent suspension years ago. Edit: I just realized you are talking about hub motors not axle motors.

[@KiltedTitan]

Didn't know Dana did E-axles. My old truck had .411 Dana. Sheard the drive before I broke that axle (and I did try). Hope the quality is like it was in the 80's. Those will kick like a mule.

[@charlesball6519]

That's actually 4.11, not .411

[@ivanryz]

Super hot there these days. Hang I. There. Jetlag is killer too. Great work fellas. I've lived and worked in China doing something similar many years.

[@ahtheh]

You know a guy served, when he can sleep with his arms crossed, while there's a perfectly good bed sitting there

[@wild_lee_coyote]

Looks like the time Deboss took to like at lots of different axles and frames for various manufactures and years paid off. Building an e-axle that will fit a majority of trucks will minimal amount of fabricobling is going to key to getting the kits out as quickly as possible.

[@hrothgeirrH]

This is exciting stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing electric drive conversion kit options

[@cyclesingsleep]

Excellent bridge building! I pray that this will all result in a freer people and more human-loving government in China and at home...!

[@chihoang4085]

I was thinking a freer and more human loving government in Canada.

[@birdyashiro1226]

@@chihoang4085 ...

[@pietersnackaert]

i find this really good but my current concern is axles for 4x4 trucks, because as far as i see this a front axle wasnt discussed. although the bus hub motors were shown.

[@johnwenzel2003]

It's the front drive axle that's a mystery to me. There hasn't been any coverage to how a powered stear axle would be configured.

[@saff226]

​@@johnwenzel2003I'm guessing it will be the same centre with just different outers

[@ignasanchezl]

Worst scenario you could have the stock axle with an off the shelf medium power AC motor, placed with a disconnect right were the transfer case sits. It could be geared down so to still have the same torque as the rear but 4WD is limited to low speeds only

[@jimmystokley815]

You said 80mph for America.....I'm in Texas we have some posted speed limits that are 80mph it will be to slow if that's its all out. I look forward to a speed that is well above that so it won't be at max effort for those roads. It can also be pretty hot down here I am curious how the heat mitigation will be handled with that demand in this environment. Love yalls video's.

[@deathx605]

I literally bought an old truck wateing on yall to finish so i can buy one this hybrid system just makes sense

[@indyjons321]

I’m curious as to how the 4x4 front axle will be.

[@Neberheim]

Same. Dana doesn't seem to have any steerable e-axles except for OHVs, but maybe that's some of what they didn't want to show yet in the factory.

[@lemons3738]

Dual drive sounds neat. Sounds like you'd keep the original transmission in a setup like that.

[@k9wiREless]

i would suspect the hardest opposition to requesting specific axle length is from the larger automotive giants who ask for specific length & order millions at a time, not with retrofit in mind. luckily edison motors has the right idea

[@douglasboyle6544]

Everywhere you go people are people 😁

[@1944chevytruck]

AWESOME! AMAZING YOU GUYS HAVE FUN!

[@yanbolyb]

You may find that kind of axle in Chang'an Hunter REEV pickup's rear. A solid USD 20k pickup, with 31kwh battery, 22kw AC output and 2.0t engine as range extender with 100kw generator.

[@b-laz-e]

Whoa, glad I stayed up late!

[@pablotharpalo5685]

I like the idea of front motors but remote steering doesn't sit right with me still. However, being able to bobtail FWD would certainly be interesting to see

[@playerzero0000]

Would it be possible to retrofit work vans, like the Chevy Express, with e-axles? There’s a massive, untapped potential in the construction/utility service market. Having an electric van with 4x4 and plenty of range would be huge

[@ShaneEstabrooks]

Nothing but AWESOME 👍😎🇨🇦

[@iBackshift]

WOO HOO..... super happy for y'all.

[@frankleonard6570]

Looks like a great time!

[@alb2571]

Awesome experience and video!

[@WANDERER0070]

9 : 30 so when will Canada build High speed bulet trains across country 😢

[@Neberheim]

When it doesn't threaten the domestic airline industry.

[@laurieberg2880]

Hahahahahahaaaaa!

[@birdyashiro1226]

9km subway line for 10 yrs, idk

[@j.angelo2528]

Yay! I can't wait!

[@LokiCDK]

I want to pick up conversion kit. I want to have the truck of theseus. Also consider that for the official model naming when it goes to market.

[@merlepatterson]

With the electric motor directly in the axle it seems like they'll have to use some kind of sprag clutches with reverse lockers or something to defeat full time posi?

[@johnwenzel2003]

I would love it if I could get an exploded view diagram of the ez-axle, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

[@johnwenzel2003]

I would love it if I could get an exploded view diagram of the e-axle, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

[@ignasanchezl]

As far as I know, pretty much all electric vehicles have their motors permanently connected to the wheels, the additional electromagnetic drag is there, specially with permanent magnet motors (unlike induction motors) but it's fairly minimal if the motor is designed correctly. Rarely ever do drive/cruise without using a bit of power or e braking, unless you're coasting on a very slight downhill.

[@merlepatterson]

@@ignasanchezl What I'm interested in is how they defeat posi on a direct drive axle. As I said, they must have some kind of sprag clutch or something.

[@ignasanchezl]

what do you mean by posi?

[@cch201992]

I need one for a promaster cargo van 👀 van life is huge 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@thenam3less]

Don't think this answered my questions around how your building for f250s vs f650s. I'll keep watching though.

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

I think they said they were going to put 450/550 size rears in pickups, so they can be used in bigger and smaller trucks

[@thenam3less]

@@bobstitzenberger1834 that's my hope but I wasn't sure if they were referring to their toppies axels or the retro kit. My disappointment in this video is we really didn't get any new information or confirmation.

[@repalmore]

I've been asked by complete strangers to come stand in their photo while I was just walking by. Not real common to be invited to dinner but not that unusual. I live in a town in China where I'm the only foreigner and it's common for complete strangers to say hello.

[@williamturner413]

Love the METAL in China.

[@matthewgingerich2540]

Question: will there be options for limited slip and/or locking differentials in these E-axles? I hope so: it will broaden the appeal of the conversion even more to folks who use their trucks in off-road applications.

[@elliottdiedrich3068]

It is just a matter of programming. Check out what Rimac Motors did on their cars. I am pretty sure that these guys will pick that up as they progress.

[@siggyincr7447]

Hopefully they go with twin motor system that gives each side its own motor. There's huge traction control benefits to each wheel having its own motor.

[@WcSuka]

Rich breaking out the card board assisted design and sharpie

[@joshlesperanceCa]

Boys trip! Nice!!

[@Thecommon4321]

Add big suspension options for 300’ plus

[@dogefort8410]

DO IT, DO IT, YAYY! Remember to hand out vouchers for solar installs with every axle sold!

[@jefffrank2382]

Are your axles goomg to have lockers?

[@johnwalterc]

Do you have a smaller axle for a F150?

[@ayatotakema5axs]

Unrelated but do you think you will add an auto grease system to your truck?

[@meme-pv3lx]

Why would you not want the manufacturing to be done in Canada?

[@bdjm8595]

Different language, same drinking culture!

[@CajunGreenMan]

Way to lead with the white man rhythm, Rich!

[@Divergentpath]

I have a flawless 85 ford f250 just waiting.

[@russellknight26]

Unsprung weight is a concern for the pickup trucks. On A C500 it wouldn't change the stability or handling like a pickup

[@ignasanchezl]

kek

[@roberto.peterson9917]

curious how these axel drive train functions in mud snow and ice when you need a soft start do not to spinning tire's or even if in soft sand power taking of and spinning can leave you more stuck than you were

[@ignasanchezl]

You can actually build really fast responding traction control systems for electric motors. Just look how EVs manage to set record launch speeds even on unprepped pavement with all season tires. Or check videos of the R1T. They should definitely look into it though, at least a soft start mode.

[@nicholaswhite9760]

Sensors will make rapid response which is faster than mechinic 4wd system. It has been commercialized in some EV(sedan, SUV and even truck)

[@WANDERER0070]

9 min drinking beer in public ❤ and some people say chinese have no freedom 😂 try doing that here or Us

[@aaronkoch3273]

Were those guys actually trying to out-drink a Canadian?!? :)

[@FFLFFS]

Chace, next time be sure to take all of us along with you. I mean wth why not? Why not take a couple of thousand fans of Edison Motors with you? What’s the big deal? 3 or 4 chartered planes. 😂🤷‍♂️

[@MegaDarkTroll]

You have no idea how much I want to slap that axle into a miata - it's like an LS swap I'll make it wooork

[@joshfazenbaker5691]

What lug pattern will the axles have?

[@davidbonney5035]

A simple suggestion , have matching Edison Motors shirts on for meetings just to look a little less country boy look and more professional . Only saying

[@abab-kl2gt]

Cool when can I buy one?

[@tacticaltechie]

Rather than the Powerboost F150... I would change it up to put in the eAxel and pull out the drivetrain then just have a really good 2.5 or 3l diesel to power the system. Like an 800hp truck with a 1000 mile range would be sick.

[@dirtbike662]

But can I cram these under my single cab Tacoma?

[@jamestaylor4202]

People keep asking 'Why not just put a motor on the transfer case' that misses one key point in that you can turna 2wd truck into a 4wd truck simply by using two electric axles.

[@northernbushcraft1809]

absolutely love what you guys do been following your videos since you started working on carl. bought my first truck back in january and im already thinking of picking up a second just too have edisons retrofit done too replace something like internationals maxxforce or possibly even old mercedes engines out there f*k TESLA😆

[@calvinpetrich]

Wait, you guys don’t walk around drinking your beer in Canada?

[@Lolpopi8547]

nope, straight to jail

[@Ajicles]

4:44 Windows 7 still in use in 2024.

[@cobaltlukather9045]

Windows 7 still the best OS. people would still be using it if they weren't forced to update.

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

3:40 I van sea that this is eating Chase alove on the inside. We reely ought to be getting one if each axel and then break it down, an reverse engineer it, and make em Canadian from scratch.... Any machine companys out there willing to give er a crack

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

It's a huge investment in casting and forging factories, it just won't be done anywhere but china

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

@@bobstitzenberger1834 it can be done here there just gotta be a group of folks to work to make it happen Yes casting can be tedious but, can be highly worth it, how do you think Ford made millions of cars in the early 1900's and manufactured 90% of everything in there model T's & Eh's 😆

[@JD-yx7be]

@@BurchellAtTheWharf The u.s was an industrial powerhouse back then, during the 70s and beyond we moved to a service economy. Increased taxes on domestic manufacturing and decreasing tariffs

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

@@JD-yx7be yes. And the shuttering of small companies and businesses that would normally chase such an opportunity like I mentioned.. North America(USA and Canada) as a whole should be a manufacturing superpower. But fallow the money and profits

[@happycamper137]

I'm sadden to see you have to go to China to make these improvements to American/Canadian trucks. I understand its about affordability, but this only shows what our governments are about.

[@AdrianMcDaid]

They tried to get the products local.

[@barkobama7385]

It wasn't governments that closed the factories and moved them to China, it was the billionaire factory owners that did that. Put the blame where it belongs.

[@harmanjd]

It's not so much about affordability as it is availability. They could not find a North American supplier willing to work with them.

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

​@harmanjd , and the north American suppliers would just order from China anyway

[@matthewgoedtel5998]

You can thank unintelligent people like tRump that spread lies around hybrid and electric vehicles. Most other countries choose a propulsion system based on specs, efficiency for a given need and not feelings.

[@zslemp]

my good sir, American trucks need the ability to go 120mph at the minimum.

[@justinjones5288]

You aint wrong

[@xiaoranmo7308]

Nah at least supersonic

[@paulwatson6013]

So okay they have K pop in Korea. So what do we call it in China, C pop perhaps?

[@jeffreymartin2010]

I once met a woman who was in a meeting with her boss in Korea. He didn't want to admit he didn't understand the Australians in their meeting so he just said yes to everything. This is common with East Asians in general. Be aware of the polite yes vs. the actual yes.

[@chihoang4085]

Korea is not China. They have an interpreter.

[@samjubilee6593]

Please never hire an advertising team. Chace Barber & Rich Bosch are a blast to watch, better than any advertising team you could ever come up with.

[@mikesmith8952]

Americans seem to hate anything China makes, I get it but consider so damn much is already made in China because US industries sold us out! DANA is an American company but they now produce their products in China because of the Almighty dollar, profits come first in the modern world, IMPO. If American companies would have taken Edison Motors seriously they wouldn't have needed to go to China. I wish I could afford to convert one of my many 4X4 trucks to the Edison build, designs. The people who hate Edison Motors due to the China thing need to go elsewhere for their needs, IMHO.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😊

[@chihoang4085]

Nobody sold anyone out, it's called the free market. You obviously haven't seen how much harder Chinese have to work for much less pay.

[@ctibpo991]

2 motor axle = 0 differential + redundancy if 1 motor dies + spin turn capability + lower gauge wiring requirements for each motor

[@Neberheim]

Wondered about that too, though the front and rear axles would also provide redundancy.

[@ArthriticAngler]

Engineers and manufacturing matters 😢

[@johnwilliams4545]

Shades of Hotel California 😅

[@grahammaclean1997]

As much as I admire your intent, when are you actually going to DO something that those of us who believed in you can actually counton what you say..? Please let us know when parts are going to be available and how your network will work. All I see from your channel is a lot of things that really don't matter to those of us that want to build our own truck. I don't want this to come off as sarcastic, just want to get with a program. Thanks and I really do like what the intent is. I have been a big supporter and told numerous companies to check you out. Hope they did. Take care.

[@brettmoore3194]

I was wanting one of your trucks but seeing all the unsold EV's in china it makes me wanna wait

[@mfanto1]

This will all end in tears

[@i-love-comountains3850]

Yours.

[@glike2]

Hope Edison doesn't get swatted by US government with tariffs

[@nickgibb4687]

WHAT!! Made in China?

[@bobstitzenberger1834]

Dana is made in China. Everything is made in China

[@johnwenzel2003]

North American corporations where so successful in offshoring production that now it is now prohibitively difficult to fully produce anything nativly within the reagon. It's like everyone didn't scream bloody murder when they did it, it's now that we have to deal with consequences of their short term profit taking.

[@MarkRose1337]

No North American manufacturers were willing to work with them

[@__WJK__]

@nickgibb4687 - Are you saying, everything you currently own, has absolutely no components made in China? Also, if you were in Edsison Mortor's shoes, what exactly would you do different?

[@DavidGamersChannel]

The US military's F35 also has Chinese components. What do you think?

[@KrisT1622]

Is it still cost effective with proposed heavy tariffs? Will using this make exporting your finished product to the US difficult? If/when China invades Taiwan how will this impact your supply of this critical component? Wise to source a North American option and have a plan B if things go sideways.

[@Serrol_]

Given everything China has already done against Canada, it's amazing that Canadians would still go against their country and hand over their business to China like this.

[@foolicooli]

So a 12 hour or so flight, and relying on their quality control. Being extra friendly to people spending a bunch of money is pretty universal hope it works out i guess.

[@JD-yx7be]

They haven't done the testing yet.

[@colo4217]

9:12 😂

[@SatsJava]

China #1 🎉

[@alexwalker8422]

Balance what you here a bit with a channel called China uncensored, it'll open your eyes a bit.

[@SatsJava]

@@alexwalker8422 western propaganda bs

[@alexwalker8422]

@@SatsJava do we have suicide nets in America? Why are we shipping everything in from China and charging less for it than everything else? They would have to be mislabeling things as made in China, abusing the workforce of America as severely as we claim they are, while also having a degree of control over the news sufficient to remove the solidity of whatever other beliefs you have formed by watching it, as well as anything other than what you see physically in front of you. Fabrication being so prevalent would destabilize everything we believe. As far as the world is visible to us through the news, China has far more than suicide nets, it has 'reeducation' camps filled with religious minorities which they collect without having to challenge the law, and it has a long history of doing so. Every source of information that is not entirely ignoring this subject is pointing to extreme corruption by the government of China, the only thing news sources paid off by them can do is just that. What's funny is that in America, they have to strategically manipulate people into legally agreeing to non lethally donate organs as a way to get out of prison earlier in order to get organs to sell, and unfortunately there were quite literally enough evil people in one prison system to actually attempt that; but in China, they have no barriers and are more than willing to harvest as many as they want. It's the only reason uyghur Muslims aren't simply being gassed to save on accommodating them in these 'reeducation' camps. Do not claim to be certain it is propaganda when a country already known in history as a victim of communism to the death of more than a few tens of millions is accused of similar activities while doing its best to compromise our view of it.