Trek Powerfly FS 9 Equipped Review - $6k

[@mattmiller2761]

Just got a 2023 model FS9. It's has the Kiox display and Sram wireless derailleur. Love it! It's not even on the USA Trek website yet.

[@floydbourassa6749]

Just ordered my 2023 fs9. Can’t wait!

[@CONFUCIUS-f2x]

Is it possible to install the twin battery set up like in the Allant 7+ ?????

[@darrylanddianneramsey9341]

Thank you for all the help in choosing an ebike. I bought a Powerfly 4. With some add-ons, I think it is as useful as the FS 9 and only 2/3's the price. I almost returned the bike due to motor noise. But either I am adjusting to it or it has become quieter. It is more of a subdued growl than the shriek captured in the vid. I take some comfort that the cx motor is the only top tier motor with all metal internal gears. Metal gears are 3x stronger than plastic and not subject to heat failure.

[@tomherron4334]

It’s interesting that Trek chose a smartphone display for a full suspension mountain bike. I would have preferred the Purion for off road use especially since there would be a chance of your phone being ejected from the mount with hard riding. Quite a noisy bike. Thank you again for a thorough review.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

I'm with you, and actually the Purion would be awesome here! This is mountain capable, but setup almost like a sport utility vehicle with the commuter rack, fenders, and lights. I'm mixed on the SmartphoneHub, it seems like Bosch has lots of options, and it would be great to choose them for each bike, but at least you can pay extra to swap in one of the others.

[@markberry2785]

As an owner, I haven't experienced the noise the reviewer describes. I'm not a fan of the smartphone display. For simple functionality, Purion is easier to see and use. I'm interested in seeing how durable the mount is (I may be adding an aftermarket phone caddy so I can use both the native unit and my go-to app - RidewithGPS.com).

[@jimji2774]

@@markberry2785 Yes I think that noise must be amplified on video as the Powerfly 4 with CX motor I tested was not at all objectionable unlike my buddies Izip bike which is annoying.

[@iancharless]

I agree on all accounts. The motor is super noisy and the smartphone mount is just dumb. If we want a smartphone mount we can just buy any number of them for it. Give us a little computer or nothing is better. @trek

[@jeffyu8854]

I like how this bike looks.

[@jonathansherrard5824]

Thank you! I’ve been looking for a review on this beast.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Sweet! I’m so glad it found you, I appreciate your comment and it’s nice to know that my work helped someone :) what did you think of the bike?

[@Xenumiscagive]

What beast it goes 20mph mine goes over 60 mph cost a little more

[@jonathansherrard5824]

John Lewis I’ve been looking at electric bikes with motors ranging from 160nm Bafang torque monsters to these lower torque but better engineered Bosch systems. I consider this bike a beast not necessarily because of it’s motor, but rather for its components. If I’m being honest - I’m not convinced that current components are built to handle 160nm of torque, even with shift sensors. The cassette, derailleur, shifter, dropper post, suspension system, etc are impressive. I’m not convinced it’s worth the $$, but it has nicer components than I’ve seen from direct-to-consumer models. Would I bomb a mountain with this bike? Not a chance. I would take it through the transmission line right of way though, and I think it would handle it quite well based on this review. If I wanted speed I’d buy another motorcycle. I want a reliable e-bike that adds to the bicycling experience, rather than distracting me from it. I haven’t seen EBR take too many bikes down staircases...

[@jonathansherrard5824]

ElectricBikeReview.com This was a top notch review, and really answered most of the questions I had about this bike. The full suspension looks functional rather than a decoration, and while I’m still learning about component quality, I appreciate that you’re able to address where the cassette, derailleur, shifter, etc fall on the spectrum. Watching you ride down the stairs was an eye opener as well. I struggle between buying a bike with the Bosch system vs a Bafang system, and between direct-to-consumer vs supporting locally owned business. I still haven’t made up my mind, but your reviews are the best and most unbiased resource available. Your reviews helped me realize that an electric bike could be a practical resource, if only for three seasons. One thing I know for certain - I wish that there was a Riese and Muller dealer in New Brunswick!

[@misty671]

Well done. A nice alternative to R&M. Thanks for all you do, from central 🇨🇦.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

You’re welcome! This one took a while to prep for. It’s neat to see all of the technology and try the latest software for the CX motors. Happy Fall, hope you and yours are well :)

[@yippie6862]

The motor is way too loud. It would be a deal beaker for me. The CX motor is usually a little noisy but this is probably the loudest I've heard it. Perhaps something about the frame that's amplifying the sound?

[@tedbellWRV]

As someone that puts a lot of miles on a bike (including thousands of miles on R+M e-bikes), it is so nice to see Trek is taking a page from R+M's playbook, and not trying to make their bikes super light. My experience is the light weight approach is not so great an idea for an e-bike, especially one that gets ridden. It is a pain to have parts fail, and e-bikes put more stress on a bike's components - due mostly because they are heavier and get ridden more.

[@toddguitar19]

Seems like Trek and Specialized are both building their newest ebikes to compete with Riese & Muller ebikes. Very similar look , fenders, etc. All have great build quality!

[@markberry2785]

Just bought one and - after first ride - I'm hooked. Bike is beautiful in terms of fit and finish; paint is bland relative to many MTBs, but well-done given the limited palate used. I bought it for light trail & gravel riding with a friend (who's 10 years younger and wears me down on rides longer than 30 miles; Bosch will be a great equalizer). Bike is massive in terms of weight but didn't find it difficult to ride - even when motor was off and I was the only source of power. I didn't experience the whining sounds from the motor as the reviewer described. Smartphone is not required to operate; native "head" unit works fine. Interested in seeing how COBI app works when you're using other apps such as RidewithGPS or Strava. One thing is for sure - this is not going on a roof rack. At 60+ lbs. for the XL size, most roof racks would fail (and the bike itself is approximately 8" longer than either my road or gravel bike; not sure it would fit on the top of my Subaru Outback even if I could lift it that high).

[@khaledallam5755]

Congrats! I'm on the fence for one too. Great to see someone giving their feedback after purchasing it. Could you confirm if the tail light is brake activated?

[@markberry2785]

@@khaledallam5755 Tail light is not brake activated. It - and headlamp are static; they light when onboard computer is turned on. They don't appear to be adjustable in any way. I can live with that.

[@khaledallam5755]

@@markberry2785 Thanks for the info. May you enjoy many many miles with this quality bike.

[@mountaincam3520]

Thankfully there are some really nice e-bikes for less than half the price of this Trek.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, lots of great choices these days! I have a category if “affordable” models back at the site it’s pretty popular. electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/

[@nalaqueenofthejungle]

Yeah but I tried a lot of ebikes. What I like about the Trek Powerfly is that it’s a great bike that is an ebike. The rest of the more affordable ebikes are “ebikes that happens to be ok bikes”.

[@charlietube7165]

@@ElectricBikeReview wtf 6k....buy a car already

[@b-manz]

If you are a novice rider you won’t appreciate the details.

[@snowfalleon7629]

@@charlietube7165 Cars are dangerous

[@ericmachum6172]

Excellent report on the Powerfly EQ. I have the Verve+3 which I love but am looking at upgrading and this looks fabulous. One comment. I have the smartphone Hub and use an iPhone 12 Pro Max and have already had two smartphone cases break under warranty. It is the right bottom corner that breaks. After the first break I have been using it without the protective phone case to keep the volume down in the smart phone hub but it still broke. As I have the Verve+3 I am not riding on rough terrain so I am not abusing the hub. Bosch definitely need to do an improvement on this. Would love others comments.

[@jaystarr6571]

31:31 Man that thing really starts to screech and howl at speed. At least no one will have to ask if it's an electric bike or not. Nice looking frame though.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, it was surprisingly loud for parts of the test ride. It makes me wonder if that's how it is, if it's the new software, or if it was a glitch somehow?

[@jp92704]

He had a bad motor unit...

[@lionelpayette4628]

Great thorough review!

[@superglidernoyb5815]

Great review. I searched all over the internet to determine if my 2018 Trek Dual Sport motor is making too much noise... no luck... all worthless reviews for that kind of concern. Mine makes that same whine this bike makes. I've been concerned because this bike has 11,000 miles on it, and I was concerned if I need to worry about that noise. I'm Randy's neighbor.

[@GeorgeGates]

For all the folks who are negative on this particular bike , what is a good alternative ?

[@joe5951]

I’m new to the ebike world and retired now. I’m looking to purchase my first ebike. I really don’t know much about them but looking to purchase the Trek Allant 8s

[@ladydara7446]

rent a variety of models first, then you'll know what you want

[@John-ye4nv]

Great review, just getting to buy R&M Delite GX, then I saw this. Now not sure - I would love to hear comments if the money for R&M is worth the price compared to the Trek.

[@DrChandlerGeorge]

love it, we just got one for my wife

[@fendermon]

Class 3 with a bigger chain ring and I'm in. -Great review.

[@scootosan]

The substance of a good review/evaluation is honesty. Call the Pros and Cons no matter where the chips fall and you do that... keep it real (Thumbs Up) . Good call on the charger door take note Trek. For some reason Trek has gone with the bland and drab paint scheme across their whole line. I witnessed a young guy test riding two bikes. He couldn't make up his mind (both similar group sets). Basically which color scheme do you like.....

[@ForbinColossus]

Very nice, Court! I'm using as a commuter but prefer Full suspension. I would cover up the garish TREK lettering on the downtube. Suntour? Aw, no FOX? I wish Bosch would go to belt drive which seems to quiet down the whine...Thanks for pointing out the folly of the phone. I would drop mine taking it on or off. I really hate having to use a phone to ride an ebike! I'd def waiti for NYON - can'tbelieve they are finally bringing it to the US - thought NYON was Haibike related more so than Bosch...

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, I'm super excited for Nyon too! Trek impressed me in many ways with this ebike, but there were some question marks for sure, and you nailed them :) but also the motor was a bit loud it seemed.

[@ForbinColossus]

@@ElectricBikeReview Ya - it would seem there's be a way to engineer the gears inside to make quieter but I'm guessing here..

[@ShinerBockGirlz]

Is this better than a Rad Rover 5? I don't know anything about ebikes but I want one. Do they have something like this with throttle control also? Also can you ride this without battery, perhaps you ran out of battery, or you just want extra exercise? Very nice review!

[@andrews.5902]

Well, you can’t buy a 2021 model, seem to be sold out throughout the U.S. I have looked at every Trek dealer in my home area of St. Louis and they say the first available order from the factory is mid-December. Looked at dealers in Indianapolis, Chicago, Springfield, Kansas City, Louisville, no one has any. Most Trek Ebikes are sold out, but the FS EMTBs are down to a few models, mostly in the small size. I know, first world problems, but still frustrating once you decide you’d part with that kind of coin, to find none available.

[@kdsautter1]

Great review. Trying to decide between this and a similar specialized.

[@nguyenngoclinh524]

I really like the phone holder that you have on the bike. Can I have the name? Just can’t find one similar on Amazon. Thanks

[@Rooksfish]

Powerfly's look like a good "do it all" option. However, they are fairly heavy. Did you notice the weight while riding? It seems it would be difficult to ride without the motor engaged. Quite different but I was also looking at the Specialized Vado SL. The Vado clearly is not as versatile as the Powerfly, but it's substantially lighter.

[@enriquejaimes3368]

Check the turbo Tero, it is really amazing

[@winry9762]

Yes it heavy.You'll not carrying the bike. You ride it!!! Weight is not issue not the issue..... Just enjoy the bike!!!

[@pizaliasta8369]

Are the fenders removable? I was thinking mud might get caked up in there. I am considering this bike.

[@elevenAD]

OMG! that motor noise! i dont want to hear that when im forking out 6grand! im sorry. i so want to see you review some type of Ultra powered full suspension bike just to see how it stacks up to the pricey Euro imports,i know you have had guest review these Highpowered bikes in the past and i understand why but its just not the same lol, im hoping you might consider reviewing one of the New Sonders Ultra series, Sonders use a different controller that limits the motor to a legal 750watt output!

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, I’m excited about that bike! I’ll see if SONDORS can send one for review, thanks for the request!

[@jp92704]

I think he was given a bike with a faulty motor. I rode a noisy one like that once but other bikes with the same motor that I tried were very quiet.

[@shivomtiwari7933]

Can you do a Trek Powerfly 4 review? (HARDTAIL)

[@tac6044]

So how does the power feel on these big brand ebikes? Is it impressive or is it just a little extra help? Can you essentially tackle any hill with ease? Do you ever wish it had more power? Thinking about buying one but wondering if I should go for a class 4 ebike. Tough choice because I would like a full suspension or nice HT that is as close to a normal bike as possible but at the same time I want decent and noticeable power. Your thoughts would be appreciated...

[@YSPDJapan]

Do you want to go fast or do you have literal mountains to climb? These mid-drive bikes are great if you are tackling serious up-hill climbs during your rides. They minimize motor power and battery capacity so you can climb well, but the batteries don't give you that much range and the motors/gearing don't give that much top end speed. If you want to cruise at 20 mph, you're better off with a hub-motor E-bike that has a 4# or 52 front tooth sprocket. Or getting a MTB and changing the front ring to something larger. So again, if your ride has hills that literally require you to get off and walk, a mid drive is better, but you don't get any top end because the bike is geared for the climb. But if you don't have "must walk" hills, a hub drive has enough power to climb moderate hills and will be geared to give you 20+ MPH cruising for 30+ miles.

[@MrAdumitrescu]

Can you change the gear system for belt drive?...because that will be a godlike option...I looks like the frame allows it from the zoomed pictures I saw and Bosch motor is compatible with belt drives.

[@MrStogie88]

Great detailed review.

[@Richard-tk2fh]

Great review and much appreciated i wondered if you would be able to change the drive train over to a sram eagle xx1 wireless upgrade kit and would you also have to change the rear hub to a free hub ? Thankyou

[@jp92704]

What is Court saying about the motor noise? I can't believe that he doesn't realize that some of those Bosch CX motors are noisier than others. I am buying a Trek Allant 7S or maybe a Powerfly 4. I look for those particular bikes with a less noisy motor!

[@OliverGibbsYoutubeChannel]

Do you know if the rack is easy to get off as looking to take mine off..? Great video and in depth!

[@MegaProtius]

Great review.really highlights every nuance of the bike you don't get this detail any were else. Trek should make this bike one thing or another commuter or mtb can't be both. Noise on motor not good.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Thanks Christopher, I went as deep as I could while still trying to keep it fun and efficient ;)

[@user-tk7km1sr7e]

For $6K it should have M99 Supernova headlight and 5 LED tail/brake light. Is it even a brake light? Not a fan of the unsprung rear rack either. Should also be class 3 pedalec. Very attractive bike though.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Good question, I don’t think the included rear light has brake activation on this bike.

[@philhowell4607]

Excellent review!

[@rexvaughn986]

Curt, would you prefer to have a bike like this that can do both mtb and commuting or 2 separate bikes more specialized for that duty?

[@JoLe1991]

the watt hour rating is overestimated.. they use NCR18650GA cells which suffer from severe capacity loss in emtb or turbo mode because of pretty hard voltage sag. also running these cells in turbo mode will degrade them faster than let's say a battery filled with NCR18650 PF cells... most 21700 cells are actually much better suited for "high" power delivery while maintaining high capacity

[@TheForge10]

So is this a mountain bike ?? Could i rip this on down hill tracks ? Firsr thing I would do is remove the mud guards and rack and lights.

[@noonenowhere6920]

I considered getting the powerfly but ended up getting the Verve+2 instead. Minor regrets.

[@Diamond_Killa]

Same, same!! Lol

[@elthron834]

Can you tell me how tall you are? Nice Video ❤

[@ulster7717]

The stand over height on the website for a medium frame is 31”. This must be to an imaginary horizontal cross bar. Can you advise on this. I have to go a long way to a dealer that has one in stock to check this in person. Thanks

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

Hmmm, I tested a Cube Stereo Hybrid 120 Allroad. I got very interested in this kind of bike. Also the Focus Thron. What is really surprising is the price difference. The Trek is 6000$ and the Cube is 3600€ in Europe. The only difference I see are the brakes. I think, I wouldn’t be ok with a SR Suntour on a 6000$ bike. Also the battery cover isn’t well thought. It’s one peace with the battery, so I HAVE to buy a second battery from Trek. You can’t just rent a second battery or something, because then the frame is open. A separated cover would’ve been way better.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

All great points. Is the CUBE as loud as the Trek here? Did you try it with the latest software? I'm really curious if that's just the new normal for the CX...

[@user-si3vr5gv8l]

I went to purchase the fs4 Trek, didn't want to wait a year, they had a Santa Cruz Heckler, which I ended up buying, a little expensive but with the Santa Cruz name can't go wrong its at 48 lbs, Shimono motor very quiet, I had a Trek fuel EX5 very good bike which I gave to my daughter. I like some of the features with the Trek, get yourself Maxxis tires I did with my Fuel, made a big difference.

[@federicomaisch6812]

Thank you

[@ElectricBikeReview]

You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it or found it useful :)

[@GaryFujiokaSr]

Great review! That app is suh-weet.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Thanks so much! Good to see you here, I appreciate the comment :D how have you been?

[@SandroMoiron]

The noise is a total show stopper. I'm going to the nature to get some quiet time and the "city noise" is coming with me. Looks like another product that was not daily used by who built it.

[@godlovesyou7981]

Cool bike!

[@ElectricBikeReview]

I like your username! God bless :)

[@godlovesyou7981]

ElectricBikeReview.com I actually talked to you about God once while looking at an imax scooter at the shop in Fullerton about 4 years ago. I actually bought the scooter and broke it within two weeks haha and they gave me my money back. I had kind of gotten some air off a small jump and broke something internal 🤣 I am currently awaiting a Sondors in the mail at the moment.

[@JoLe1991]

the two smallest cogs on the cassette are pretty much useless with a 25kph restriction.. and they take up more space worsening the already bad chainline on a 12 speed cassette.. I modified my cassette (10 speed) by removing 2 cogs and replacing the 2 smallest cogs with Miche's 15t first and 17t second pisition sprocket. Locking up everything with a centerlock lockring

[@michaelfletcher1224]

Hold the selector button to close the menu.

[@goobfilmcast4239]

No doubt...This thing is a beauty.......but $6000.00 is just too much of an extravagance for one e-bike.... quality build and parts, excellent engineering but no real value... IMO, if you can afford to drop the cash for this bike, the less you probably "need" one......the more I dig into e-bikes, see reviews, videos and marketing/sales info, the happier I get with my current Brand and Model

[@lukaszzielinski595]

what is the presure of rear suspension

[@thegee-tahguy4877]

Court, in your opinion, are fat ebikes still holding their own or losing momentum in the industry?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

It seems that far ebikes are still very popular and really speak to casual riders who like the style and fee that the stability and “go anywhere” comfortable tires are just cool. It seems like Rad, Juiced, M2S, Super 73 have all hit the mark. Brands like BULLS do have far bikes, but no throttle and much higher price just doesn’t resonate with the casual rider. What do you think?

[@MrRailfan]

@@ElectricBikeReview im coming over from an E road bike to a new juiced hyperscrambler 2 that's coming out. That style has really grown on me, can't wait to get mine in November. I wonder how much of a difference in comfort its going to be going from no suspension 700c tires to 20x4.25 tires and full suspension. I hope you guys do a review of it

[@Picklecade]

should you pre-slime your tires on an ebike?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Good question, Mitch. I think it depends. Some tires have great puncture protection already. I think Slime will add weight and make it messy to service. I've seen some other cool technology in recent years, like this: electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/how-to-prevent-flat-tires-on-electric-bikes.37783/

[@rolandklasen9225]

Yes! With a long daily commute I was getting flats like crazy. Switched to Slime tubes and I can at least make it home comfortably.

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

If the motor ever catches fire,.....just THROW WATER ON IT.....No dont,. Magnesium is crazy flammable with water when on fire.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Hmm, that’s interesting, thanks for the tip!

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

And they’ve xs for my 4’10” Mrs.

[@donscottmacdonald]

Nice looking but TREK missed the mark on this one. Whiirrrr. Who rides a bike to have it be noisy? I’d look at Aventon, Juiced, Surface, M2S, and other powerful &quiet brands.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, I don’t know what the deal is with the louder motor operation here. The CX is usually one of the loudest, but maybe with the 85nm software update it just got louder, or maybe the open motor armor lets more sound out here? Or maybe it was faulty somehow? I’m hoping other owners and reviewers chime in about it. I think this bike was brand new and just sent for me to review.

[@joseylastborn8790]

In terms of aftermarket Chargers you mentioned the Stromer does not provide the compact charger for North America and also hear you mention Europe has a 50% faster charger. I wonder if there are aftermarket Chargers? 6 amps is still extremely low wattage. You don't need to have more than a hundred fifteen volt to provide several times as much wattage. So it's confusing why both of the reviews I've watched today feature reduced choice in North America. I think some of the car chargers we're going to have a killer feature when they offer a bike Jack. Usually DC car chargers are expensive but the car part does not have to be DC to offer DC bike battery charging. I assume that some car maker has already provided a DC charging port for a Pro branded bicycle like Jeep is doing? The Jeep pickup has 120 volt female end extension cord by the gate in the bed. That's easy but what's needed is a high-speed universal cable for charging the major ebike batteries don't you agree Court?

[@joseylastborn8790]

I have to make room so I am deleting the full resolution downloaded videos and I just watch this entire video again and what sticks in my mind is your comment about the kickstand. The steering wheel AKA front wheel was the reason that you had to put a rock under the kickstand despite its maximum extension because you wanted it lined up with the frame for the video. This is what I remember from when I was a kid. You can struggle with a kickstand until you figure out that the front wheel has to be turning in the right direction for you to park the bike with the kickstand. It's not designed for a bicycle review videos active simulation LOL. Also in full resolution the video that precedes your demonstration of the shock so is the shock working better at least the rear shock. After the railroad ties I did have more time to observe the front shock and I might have been more impressed by the railroad ties if I had watched it at regular speed but that's the point about the Bobbsey went over prior to the railroad tracks they were farther apart and it's the first video I have seen the shock working on of yours because you do need to watch at high resolution to catch that. I also agree with you that noise is very critical and the Shimano has apparently set the new standard but today I read about the hubless bicycle and the comments are saying that the motor is in the rim which helps with regenerative braking but I don't know if that is just a commenter making up false nonsense that bicycle is going to be $2,000 for the crowdfunder. Of course it's not comparable to this bicycle it's faster and not for railroad tracks.

[@adventure_biker]

I hate that noise . Giant bike is so much quiet with the Yamaha motor.

[@MrRGM10]

Can you river cross this things?if yes How deep

[@marconizadoklordelodesouza5121]

Good product. How much is it❓

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Good question, I try to list the price in the title for each review. This one is $5,999 USD

[@winry9762]

Man to many complaint. The charging Port is good. Put the bike in a safe place while charging.... Base on experience bro!!!

[@MR_R.o.b.o.t.o]

REALLY LOUD, WHY THE PRICE?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

I was kind of surprised by the noise here. I’ve covered many CX models before, even the new 4th gen, and they usually are louder than average, but maybe with the software update to 85nm it further increased the volume on this one, or maybe it was faulty somehow? It’s a brand new demo mode that Trek sent just for me to review... so I assume it’s setup correctly.

[@LOYALISTGOVAN]

@@ElectricBikeReview my trek rail was noisy too but it gets much better when the gearing inside the motor has run in.

[@monicafrierson451]

Great review you should also review those joulvert ebikes, that playa desert 48v 750w ebike from them is awesome i reach a top speed of 35mph

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Hey Monica! Yeah, I've known about them for a while and wanted to review. Perhaps I'll get the chance this year, thanks for the request :D

[@Rhaseanw]

Sweet ride🚲🚲

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Indeed! Thanks for the comment ;) hope you’re well!

[@JoLe1991]

wattage rating is complete bullshit, especially in europe. the manufactuters hid their bullshit rating by not telling the controller ampere rating. Dyno tests show that the cx motor puts out 550 of mechanical power at around 90rpm. That's not peak, that's continuous as long as you ride in turbo. obviously battery voltage loss during discharge will also lower power. probably, the motor takes up around 18A, but since the battery has a 20A limit it is very possible that it's also the controller's current rating. fully charged you get just below 800W battery power delivery @20A, but if the maximum mechanical power is 550W, the motor is pretty inefficient at that power level

[@THEWATCHERISLOOKING]

What happens to the bike when the battery dies?

[@markberry2785]

You pedal as you would a bike without a battery. It's not as bad as it seems. "Fool" is someone who relies on motor - and then has to push (or haul) the thing home when they don't manage the charge.

[@yute-hube779]

31:54 and that's why I'm using a hub motor. 😛

[@conantdog]

The best of everything that kind of money and only 20 miles an hour bummer

[@VancouverExplore]

I don’t get it is this guy canadian or American

[@Svid1701D]

Pretty sure he's Canadican, or is it Americadian?

[@ledhunters]

I believe he is mexican. ;D

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Good question! I’m just a person... but I grew up in Colorado, lived in Bermuda for a time volunteering, moved to California to surf, then moved to Texas for work and started EBR in 2012. I lived in my car for two years, and that’s how I made some friends in Mexico and Canada. I moved to Vancouver a few years back and met my girlfriend here. Here’s the video about me living in my car: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYjUhGuiqbFrhKM

[@VancouverExplore]

ElectricBikeReview.com that answered me question hope to see you in and around Vancouver one day

[@michal1249]

I have KTM Macina with Bosch CX 4 gen and it us noisy like that. It is annoying and germans should feel bad as my cheaper bike which costed 1/2 price is so quiet and smooth. This Bosch motor is strong and punchy but sounds horrible

[@toddwall7267]

Commenting on the key requirement when inserting the battery...perhaps Trek designed it that way so that someone could not come along, insert a battery while you are resting/charging in the coffee shop and steal the bike?

[@megawatts]

For that price I rather get an Onyx or other ebikes and still have over thousands left over

[@elevenAD]

an Onyx has no PAS system,it is NOT even an E-Bike lol,its a 60mph electric motor cycle and its illegal on every public road,trail or bike path in America,Canada,Australia and Europe.

[@megawatts]

elevenAD still over priced for the brand, better alternatives out there for this price.

[@elevenAD]

@@megawatts thats for sure!

[@ElectricBikeReview]

TechnologyExpo, which ebikes would you recommend checking out? I’ll see if I can cover them :)

[@megawatts]

ElectricBikeReview.com you cover so many ebikes I can’t think of one you haven’t covered that we been looking at! Love your videos content and coverages!

[@67cruizer]

So after Trek racing team dropped Simmons from team for supporting POTUS in a harmless twitter response, why would any American spend a nickel on Trek product? I’ve been Trek rider for decades and I know I won’t.

[@TheOMEGANOX]

Good to know

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

This right? "While we support the right to free speech, we will hold people accountable for their words and actions. Regrettably, Simmons made statements online that we feel are divisive, incendiary, and detrimental to the team, professional cycling, its fans, and the positive future we hope to help create for the sport In response, he will not be racing for Trek-Segafredo until further notice."

[@67cruizer]

@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d correct.

[@craig8638]

They just got my business.

[@67cruizer]

@@craig8638 Good luck. Trek will never get another penny from me or my cycle circle of friends because of their anti American attitude. They make decent product.

[@dougieforte]

I would like to see a review of the new VanMoof S3

[@BengieM]

🐄

[@SMG-lz1zq]

I don't get why it's $6000. I think you're paying for the Trek name. I would never spend that much for this bike. OMG! It's sounds so whiny! Ugh!

[@ledhunters]

Lets be honest, for 5999$ this bike absolutely sucks. For that cash I do not expect anythning less than Shimano XTR or Sram X0, brakes, shifters, front and rare drive, remote dropper seat, Manitou/Fox front suspension, what they put SR Suntour, is that a joke? SR SUNTOUR, for 6K$, really, hey trek folks, ease up on those mushrooms they are messing with your brains...

[@ElectricBikeReview]

That’s an interesting point, the official website listed a RockShox fork but the bike actually came with an SE Suntour. Yeah, I prefer the Fox name, but Suntour has some good stuff at the high end these days. Perhaps it has to do with global supply chain shortages right now, or maybe the 27.5” XS and S come with the RockShox? And yes, the bike is on the expensive side in general, but still more affordable than some comparable products, like the Delite. I think the money goes into the drive system, custom frame and sizes, and the Trek dealer network so shops have margin to earn.

[@SMG-lz1zq]

I called SR Suntour with questions on their suspension post and the guy was really nasty, hung up on me! I was appalled! Ended up buying the Cirrus 2.1 Kinect. Love it!

[@davidkeenan7275]

Price and noise is a deal breaker . LUNA makes these for less than half the price. So it seems your paying for the Brand name. We do complain about price because value matter's.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

I get it, my goal is to cover a broad range of ebikes and present the facts. It’s okay to share your impressions and likes/dislikes :)

[@rdkuless]

Hi Court.. I have never ridden a TREK ebike.. they look nice.. Give me a call.. bHr

[@ledhunters]

"Grayscale lcd", that has to be a joke, please someone tell me that thats a joke, or its an error on the website and this bike actually costs 1999$ .

[@ElectricBikeReview]

The primary display is likely a smartphone, but the grayscale LCD is a backup. I prefer the Kiox and am really excited to see the Nyon later this year :D

[@lorddoma6637]

Wow that is one expensive ride.

[@fantastikusst9307]

My BAFANG BBS is ' dead ' Silent ws this Garbage BOSCH ! yeah , Chinese is best at moment ! . . > . .

[@skarhe1]

Very noisy bike and I think it is too heavy so its not for Mee.

[@Juice421fs]

Trek is over priced over valued!

[@antoine4172]

Very noisy bike...

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, that surprised me. Maybe it’s the updated 85nm torque update, or the open motor armor design from Trek that lets more sound out? The CX has always been a louder one, in my experience.

[@ChantalPugin]

I have a Scott Axis Evo eRide bike, full suspension bike with the same motor (updated with the new firmware) but the Sport mode instead of the eMTB mode. And my motor is not so noisy. Maybe it’s the design of the bike or the eMTB mode.

[@antoine4172]

@@ElectricBikeReview Riese & Muller bikes have the same CX Bosch motor & they are not so noisy ...

[@drec.134]

So I must say this ! Who is spending $5k on these? Why not wait for a year and see what happens with the price? I love bikes and enjoy riding but I cannot pay this for a bike 🚲 You can purchase a very nice ATV for that price.

[@johnjuza2659]

Way to noisy

[@Dedhedted71]

Trek just kicked one of their team members off of the team for simply posting support for President Trump. Trek can go to hell I will never purchase anything Trek related.

[@leamonmiller7899]

I wouldn't buy that bike. It's too slow for me.