Electronic cymbals out of low volume cymbals

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[@TheDaneebrown]

I just wanted to say thank you! I've been watching your videos ,very helpful!

[@demonicsweaters]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching!

[@jungleb]

Thank you!!

[@benjamin.kelley]

I've been wondering about this type of setup for a long time. That's the only gripe I have with electronic drum sets - the rubber cymbals!

[@coder4liberty]

On the bottom of these cymbals you can use Flexseal or similar liquid rubber coating. I couldn't tell you how it would work on a playing surface. It might last for a while but I don't know that it would outperform a standard rubber pad in that regard. Everything wears on a playing surface.

[@laptoples]

Nice dude !!! If I didn't pick up over the years lots of extra cymbals from Music Go Round when they had them, I'd probably take up the task of making a homemade cymbal on the cheap !!! Although, for 25 - 40 bucks for a used Roland or Yamaha cymbal that works good, I guess I lucked out with my finds. :-)

[@mikestein1024]

Just wanted add you can use a lv cymbal on top of your Roland’s if you have them and then not wire anything

[@JbskMsj]

That's a good idea does it make them louder than the rubber ones ?

[@loav8r76]

This was a great video! I've been wanting to add low volume cymbals to my Roland TD-50 kit. The kit is part of the "acoustic series" which looks like a real acoustic kit and low volume cymbals makes the kit look even more real. The biggest reason why I wanted to go from Roland plastic/rubber cymbals is because they sound terrible to people around when I'm playing for them (the knock of the stick hitting the hard rubber/plastic) and after a couple of songs banging on the rubber cymbals my hands start to go numb. Not sure why these cymbals make my hands do this but they are not ergonomically friendly to me. Your video illustrates how easy it is to make the conversion, thank you.

[@demonicsweaters]

Try some Zildjian “Anti-Vibe” sticks for electric drums. They will really save your hands! amzn.to/3PqjLAj

[@maidenmopar]

I'm baffled at the 2 zone with just a piezo...😮 seriously 😊

[@demonicsweaters]

yeah, it's straight up bizarre. But like I said, it happened to me on the TD-27 with red shots too on the toms. I even made a video about it.

[@mrburns366]

That's wild. I wish someone knew how that works!

[@Soundgear4]

Using a small pintech impact patch on the underside to deaden the cymbal would be a nice permanent build. Wonder if anyone sells one, made from 1/16" thick rubber?

[@raspen5]

Impressive video. Can you share the settings in your control module for the cymbals? Such as Pad Type and sensitivity and threshold. Thank you.

[@demonicsweaters]

I honestly don't remember and don't have this setup anymore. The metal was too loud for me.

[@WickedDrums]

Hey, Justin I have a question. I have 4 15" cymbals on my drum kit. Do you think it would be possible to take a similar size low volume cymbal and just cover the rubber cymbal with it? I was thinking since the rubber cymbal already has triggers, could that work? Love the videos! 😎🤘🏼

[@demonicsweaters]

probably to some extent, but might not work well.

[@sanchez3018]

Hey! I tried the same set up you had with your hi-hat except with a ton more careboard and I’m still getting multiple triggers. Any ideas/advice? Thanks! I’m using a TD-17KVX

[@demonicsweaters]

Did you try adjusting various settings in the module?

[@Yes-ri4bd]

Hey Justin! I was thinking of switching out my rubber cymbals and hi-hat for a low volume acoustic one. However, i have one question: What is the purpose of having the rubber lining around the cymbals? Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of having acoustic triggered cymbals since youre going to be hitting the rubber lining and it's just going to feel the same as a rubber cymbal? Same goes for the ride cymbal where you would just be hitting a rubber pad and not actual metal..

[@demonicsweaters]

They still feel closer to metal than rubber since the metal bends and flexes. The problem with all metal e-cymbals is they are just so damn loud. I haven't really used these much, even though they work fine. Even with the rubber on them they are considerably louder than rubber ones.

[@Yes-ri4bd]

@@demonicsweaters thanks for your reply! in that case, isnt it possible to use rubber to dampen the bottom of the cymbals so they sound way softer and have less vibration while giving you the feel of hitting the metal cymbal?

[@laptoples]

Oh, quick question. I was wondering if I can download "the fun sounds" that are on the Td6, 8, 10 or 20 and add them to my TD-27 module. I almost want to just buy a TD6 but I like my digital snare too much to switch, but want more fun sounds and crazy stuff...lol Still saving up for the digital hi hat and ride cymbal too but just the snare is keeping me with the Td27 module. Thanks ! Have a great day !!! :-)

[@demonicsweaters]

Yeah, I think you'd have to buy one. Unless you can find someone to actually go in and sample everything. (hmmm, maybe I should do this, haha)

[@johndef5075]

Morning Justin! Those turned out pretty cool!

[@Soundgear4]

What module are you using? Wonder if Ddrum DDTI trigger interface is compatible?​@@demonicsweaters

[@demonicsweaters]

@@Soundgear4 Here I'm using a TD-07. I would think the DDTI would work.

[@Soundgear4]

@@demonicsweaters I have an old TD6 laying around but would consider the Ddrum!

[@MichaelReyk]

excuse me, what if I want to add a lot of toms and cymbals? an standart module supports only 6 or 8 pieces. Is there a way for a massive expansion?

[@demonicsweaters]

It depends on the module. The TD-6 you can split all the tom/aux inputs on it.

[@MrBeen992]

Lol, have you considered working for an electronic drums company ?

[@wholock0001]

How's this setup working out nowadays? Thinking of going the same route with my hihat!

[@demonicsweaters]

I stopped using it because of the stick volume. They functioned just fine though.

[@InvisionLabsAdam_Kobyshev]

Man, no link to rs5

[@demonicsweaters]

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[@ministrydrummer]

Are you using a cymbal processor?

[@demonicsweaters]

What is a cymbal processor?