TRIAC AC Dimmer Circuit - How to dim AC Power for Motors and More

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[@salahyahya1140]

can i use 3 circuits of ac dimmer to control voltage of 3ph induction motor?

[@damianbutterworth2434]

I made some disco lights in the 1980`s with Triac`s. I used a tape recorder to send a voltage to a decade counter and it controlled 10 triac`s using the output speaker connections as a output signal. You could put the tape recorder in record mode to pick up sound.

[@nid274]

I didnt know triac need separate pulse for both directions, thanks this was very informative.

[@davidanderson9892]

You explained what the others didn't. And clearly.

[@JonathanDeWitt1988]

Andrei, another excellent video. I'm glad you did this follow-up video from your other motor control video. You did a great job explaining that circuit. It was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time and effort to create this and share.

[@KarldorisLambley]

thanks for the vid. i just made one! it was great fun seeing how the diac and triac worked. i now know how to dim a light bulb I'll probably never use again.

[@grins047]

You always do such an amazing job of explaining things. Your diagrams and animations are fantastic.

[@mehrzadmehregan1720]

Hey bro. The value of 3302 resistors is equal to 33K ohms. This numbering is for 1% resistors. I guess you have written the value of these resistors in the schematic as 3.3K ohms. I love your videos and I always make your projects. I also like the tone of your voice and your beautiful English accent😊

[@VHS_PAL]

Another great video. Can I suggest that at this point 9:50, you should have put it into a plastic box as a demonstration of safety. Turning the pot and holding the circuit still, isn't safe. Someone may decide to give it a go and then forget that the normally low voltage protoboard that they're using is now at mains voltage. I experienced 240V when I was nine and I went flying across my bedroom.

[@coldscug]

I watched tons of videos regarding Triacs and could not get the real idea but after watching your video, it went straight into my mind. Thanks a lot. Very good delivery method. You got yourself a new subscriber.

[@mahmoudfoda8294]

Amazing video... But what is the important of bridge rectifier

[@atec9228]

Muy interesante. A ver si lo subes en español para para poder enseñarlo a los alumnos. El funcionamiento de un triac está muy bien explicado. Felicidades

[@flyback_driver]

These are excellent for resistance heating devices but for ac motors especially ac induction motors it can be hard on your coils and the bearings. If you have sufficient cooling you really wont need to worry about that and it's not always the case but something that can happen. From what ive read about peoples experience it depends on the manufacturer but it's like 20% of people seemed to either fry their coils or like in my case keep having bearings go out. Could also be how i used it or others rewired the device wrong. Just figured id throw it out the to take into consideration. For what its worth this circuit absolutely does control ac induction motors.

[@lauradalmolin3605]

Incredible video! Super easy to understand, congrats!

[@JohnKeklak]

Excellent explanation! The oscilloscope trace is essential for understanding triacs.

[@tvamos73]

The triac (thyristor) stop conducting if the current is less than the holding current (Ih). This is not obviously the zero crossing Voltage. (For example inductive loads like a motor or transformer.)

[@lolsypussy]

There are two conditions actually. Falling below Ih and reversing the mains current will unlatch the gate current.

[@martinkulik9466]

@@lolsypussy what that means? I am looking for dimmer to regulate flow with 220v ulka water pump, 50hz, 48w. I saw ppl using mainly dimmers that regulate lights,but someone also used this triac one, which I read is used to regulate revving motors such as drills. What's the difference ?

[@lolsypussy]

@@martinkulik9466 i actually have this generic triac PCBs that i manufactured for my college class but haven't had the time to test it out. I'm planning to use this to control the flow rate coming out from a submersible pump

[@lolsypussy]

@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power

[@lolsypussy]

@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power

[@LimbaZero]

I usually don't like to do 240V circuits on 2.54mm prototyping board or at least I will use single sided protoboard and remove unused copper pads.

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[@rodolforibas]

Thank you for the great work you did here in this video

[@ysfkmlgvn]

Hi from Türkiye, And thank you so much

[@RogerTannous]

1. @7:54 what is the role of the bridge rectifier ? 2. It was worth mentioning the triac must be of snuberless type, otherwise you'd have to design the snubber network...

[@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe]

In the simple circuit, when the load is off (the DIAC threshold isn't reached), the voltage over C1 lags the input voltage. When the input voltage rises above 0V after the zero crossing, the cap still holds a negative charge from the previous cycle. So it starts up from a negative voltage. If the potentiometer is moved in th edirection to turn on the load, suddenly the TRIAC will fire. This will discharge C1, so at the next zero crossing, the voltage over C1 starts at 0 for the next cycle. This means that it reaches the DIAC threshold quicker in the next cycle. The result is a hysteresis effect, where power snaps up abruptly from zero, and you have to dial down the pot again to maintain a lower power level. The bridge rectifier discharges the capacitor (C3 in this case) when the input voltage is close to the zero crossing, even if the TRIAC doesn't fire, making sure that the cap starts charging from 0V in all cycles, both where the TRIAC conducts and when it doesn't. It gets rid of the "snap" effect and makes operation at low power levels much smoother.

[@RogerTannous]

@@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe Thank you Jonas for the detailed explanation, much appreciated 😀

[@方剑华]

Thank you very much Jonas for your explanation. It is very helpful to us beginners. Thank you.

[@dosgos]

Clear and concise explanation.

[@redtieprojects]

thank you so much for this video.

[@tiagoneves4042]

Hi, The resistor values you presented in the reverse engineered circuit are wrong. A Resistor that is marked 3302 is a 33kohm not a 3.3kohm as you designed in the schematic.

[@CLARVO]

Superb 👍 , BTW could you make a tutorial on controlling ac appliances with arduino without relay ?? I need that for fast switching of ac current ( on / off )

[@meowme7644]

yes that would be cool..👍👍..and/or frequency converter?

[@heyderaliyev8976]

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[@jihadkhorfan]

excellent video, very easy to understand and follow up

[@SV-2277]

Thanks for sharing AC dimmer Voltage Regulator for speed controller, instead of 500k can i use 100k Pot, Please suggest if so any other components are required to change.

[@surendersingal2192]

Thank you very much for providing Demo of Dimmer working ( firing angle display in lab), using quadrac like combo. Jussojuan surender singal

[@motogee3796]

So this also changes the output voltage and waveform. I think the sharper waveforms can affect/damage motors in the long run while its ok for bulbs & heating. I'm looking for a device that can control & adjust the power supply from the wall socket while maintaining the voltage at 240Vrms.

[@eee_bangla]

Does the capacitor change the same way in AC that you explained. THE traditional charging and discharging happens in DC. Isn't it?

[@magnetiseur77]

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[@lezrekmohamed]

Very informative video. Is this triac dimmer reduces voltage? And if so will it be effective to reduce 220V to 110v for a solidstate guitar amp. Thanks

[@baladar1353]

No. For your purpose, a transformer with 230V input and 115V output will fit. This circuit is NOT for halving the amplitude of a sinewave. It deforms the sinusoidal waveforms like pulse width modulation does with DC voltage, but synchronised by the beginning of every half-wave. If you would try to use it as a voltage reducer for your guitar amplifier, it could render your amplifier useless, even blown up. Try to get or build a transformer that transforms 230V AC voltage to 115V AC, it will fit your needs and there will be no annoying (sometimes deadly) disturbances.

[@MD-qz6gk]

7:46 For what reason is the bridge rectifier placed in the circuit? And how do we calculate the components value?

[@chrisl2656]

If the R/C combination is altering the delay before the ON signal, why does the ‘scope at 10:08 make it look like it’s the OFF time that is being adjusted? Is it an effect of the inductive load?

[@lebasson]

Fantastically explained, thank you.

[@meowme7644]

thanks, very cool again 👍👍 have a nice week and keep going 😊

[@DavidPeach10]

For a motor, what does this do to torque? Does it stay the same, or decrease with the dimming of the AC "pulse" (or whatever you would call the dimming feature)?

[@rama3njoy]

same questions

[@flyinglack]

You are essentially limiting power which affect both torque and speed.

[@rama3njoy]

@@flyinglack so its different with dc pwm ?

[@samuelolteanu]

I have a small cheap portable induction cooktop (lots of mosfets inside). It works mostly fine but at low power it does not only dimm anymore, but powers on and off the induction coil as well. Not a problem in itself except when using it in a solar pv system where the inverter will constantly "lose" solar power trying to match the rapidly changing cooktop, making other stable appliances use grid as well even with plenty of sun. Is dimming it with a triac a bad idea?

[@Helal_Tech]

Why didn't you speak about snubber circuit?

[@SamuelMitchell1]

Hey, have you seen the linus tech tips video where they do peltier cooling again? they mentioned your video as a good explanation of how they work

[@ELECTRONOOBS]

Just seen it 😱

[@SamuelMitchell1]

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[@Handedlawtalks]

an excellent work and wonderful explain

[@riperboyxl3216]

why when in the osciloscope there's "more wave" (bigger conduction angle) the power seems to be less since the motor spins lower? EDIT: it would've been good if you explained the minimum conducting angle due to the RC trigger

[@siddarthiyer8195]

Hello, does this work for 110 AC as well? Thank you for the informative video!

[@drslartibartfass]

This tutorial is quite overwhelming. Thank you for reverse engineering that common module. However, what really confuses me is the output of the oscilloscope. Why isn't the current chopped at the beginning of the sine wave?

[@troublehd7236]

Amazing Video, I can learn so much from u, thanks man :)

[@geobrent]

I purchased an SCR dimmer that looks exactly like the one at 5:13 in the video. So, based on the video and oscilloscope this dimmer is a trailing edge SCR correct? Trailing edge dimmers are supposed to work with dimmable LED lamps, so hopefully the one that I bought will work with my pool light LED driver that is rated at 120v AC . Here in Mexico the standard is 127v but it commonly varies up to 135v and I want to use the dimmer to lower the voltage by about 10%. What do you think about this?

[@tissapathiratna7761]

Please show the full circuit with all components & values. Cheers

[@bokunochannel84207]

beautifully explained

[@carro2803]

Thanks! Do you think those devices work for 12VAC too, or is it too low voltage? I need to be able to dim small 10 to 35W halogen lamps. Thank you!

Thanks for clear explanation...

[@thunguyen5565]

thank you so much. but can you explain my teacher's question: why do we need to use zero crossing when control power of AC load ? thank you.

[@ELECTRONOOBS]

Because you need to fire the activation pulse of the TRIAC always at the same time. And since AC is oscilalting, in order to syncrhonise the pulse, we detect the zero corss and then we apply the pulse after the same amount of time, every time.

[@softwaredevlovers]

So im planning to dim my electric kettle, but i want to know how hot those traic will go...

[@jugnu361]

What varies at output Current or voltage ??

[@panindrad4995]

Very good explanation,

[@MowiWowi]

bro u anwserd the question i seeked after for many moon thank u

[@عبدالرحمنمحمد-و8ك4و]

شكرا لك ياصديقي ياطيب

[@harismasoom6634]

Thanks bro love your videos!!!

[@3L3373-s]

Superb quality 👍

[@mibrahim4245]

Thank you

[@chuckbenedict7235]

Great explanation!

[@jlucasound]

Excellent Video!!

[@chbonnici]

why on your PCB there is only one capacitor and in the circuit there are 2? Thank you for the video.

[@catherinemartinez8803]

Sir, how to make the timing fine?.,i have a dimmer here but it's too coarse .,pls advice me.thank you

[@uriel_zapata]

Important toshow the calculations

[@perkinatorfpv5553]

These are also sold as "solid state speed controllers" I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@MechanicForGMCCars]

wuld those triac work on phase shifting sensors or inductive pick up coils pulse generators?

[@raviumarji539]

Thanks for this post,very informative,i was trying to use ATTINY85 with this code instead of Arduino uno for pot control firing angle of triac ,please help me with necessary changes.

[@siddarthiyer8195]

Is there a way to attain a 100% duty cycle using this circuit? Thank you!

[@herrkronen9694]

Hi ! Is it possible to achive some sort of PWM with DC and a triac ?

[@MixwellSidechains]

Can I swap out the potentiometer for a microcontroller controlling it digitally with PWM? I assume that somehow the potentiometer was getting VCC and GND, can I hook these up to 5V In and GND and then the analog signal pin be replaced with a micro controller's PWM pin?

[@martinkulik9466]

I read this dimmer is not for lights... Only for revving motors. I can't decide with dimmer to use for ulka 220v 50hz 48w ulka pump to regulate flow. This or the one used for lights. They use different mechanisms supposedly

[@RaghulPrakash-ep2un]

Can I use Esp32 to change gate pulsebin above circuit

[@timothyellis6188]

Great explanation

[@zawilious]

does this work for universal brushed motors only ? or can work with induction motor

[@AsBi1]

what it makes my Dremel tool run not smooth as your motor and also make some noise ?

[@Drxxx]

amazing channel!!

[@naveenreddy1010]

Can this circuit be used for 120v 300 watt rice cooker ?

[@madurangidesilva259]

can i control nichrome wire heat by use it

[@klausmalone2230]

Very nice and informative video. But in practical terms, this circuit would be a really bad choice. TRIACs and full bridge rectifiers are well-known to induce a high percentage of harmonic distortion due to the capacitors only requiring current from the source for a limited time, making the current drawn a distorted sine wave. Therefore, the power factor will be very small and it will definitely not be in compliance with IEC 61000 3-2 or 3-4.

[@drinski6720]

So, what is better solution?

[@klausmalone2230]

@@drinski6720 A boost PFC rectifier probably, with current and voltage control (but that's for DC voltages). For AC voltages and in this case controlling motors, a VFD is the best option.

[@muruganp4287]

What is voltage output while potentiometer in initial stage?

[@MrRashidescu]

Super, thank you

[@hendritresnahadi4146]

Why theres burning/flaming inside potensiometer when this circuit used with drill? Tx u sir 🙏

[@baladar1353]

The sparks that cause flaming/burning in the potentiometer are the consequences of the voltage spikes generated by the motor in your drill. You can get rid of those voltage spikes by soldering a small ceramic cap between the poles of the motor.

[@thevintageaudiolife]

Great video Thanks!

[@klarry95]

What am I doing wrong if the potentiometer is burning up when set to low resistance? I set this up on a breadboard and worked fine. But now when i soldered it doesen't. Only difference I know is that I am now using 4 triacs connected together?

[@AnilArya51]

: ) Thanks.

[@RahulVerma-xm7xu]

Does this method allow less then half the power to be transmitted?

[@sudheerkumar5966]

Very very good sir

[@jdelectron]

Can we make triac using BT 169 SCR as reverse parallel connection with common Gate

[@iblesbosuok]

You'll need two timing caps, two diacs and two generic 1A diodes

[@maxximumb]

Is this how soft start works on the motors on power tools like table saws work?

[@youyouwhatwhat-gr3kc]

hmm is it safe for the device in a long run? i have a fan, and wanna try to apply this but still not sure

[@HSLElektronik]

No, it is not recommended for any kind of motor using TRIAC. You should use VFD for AC motor variable speed. TRIAC only ideal for resistive load such as tungsten-filament or halogen lamp.

[@FREEDOM-v1u]

Does it really regulate voltage from 0 -220 v ac

[@ranganatennakoon]

very useful thanks

[@lww3988]

謝謝您！

[@tissapathiratna7761]

Why does the new Triac get short circuited, for 80 w globe it works for test. but my my vacuum cleaner with all right parts it goes to full speed no control.?

[@ksbskzjd376]

tenes un diagrama de como agregar un soft start para motor ac monofasico?

[@Edmorbus]

Thanks for sharing

[@MohdFirozKhan989]

Awesome.

[@ullassasvihallimath9161]

Amazing ❤

[@blackarnab4690]

Is there any way to use 20K pot instead of 500K. Please let me know.