TRIAC AC Dimmer Circuit - How to dim AC Power for Motors and More

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🔥How a TRIAC and DIAC works and a basic AC dimmer circuit. I explain all the steps. Check the scheamtic below and dim AC voltage for motors, light bulbs and more.
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00:00 Intro
01:50 How TRIAC works
04:45 AC dimmer Circuit
05:57 Analyze Circuit
07:40 Big AC Dimmer Circuit
09:17 Homemade Circuit
10:36 Thank You
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@ELECTRONOOBS
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@salahyahya1140
@salahyahya1140 Жыл бұрын
can i use 3 circuits of ac dimmer to control voltage of 3ph induction motor?
@nid274
@nid274 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know triac need separate pulse for both directions, thanks this was very informative.
@JonathanDeWitt1988
@JonathanDeWitt1988 Жыл бұрын
Andrei, another excellent video. I'm glad you did this follow-up video from your other motor control video. You did a great job explaining that circuit. It was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time and effort to create this and share.
@damianbutterworth2434
@damianbutterworth2434 Жыл бұрын
I made some disco lights in the 1980`s with Triac`s. I used a tape recorder to send a voltage to a decade counter and it controlled 10 triac`s using the output speaker connections as a output signal. You could put the tape recorder in record mode to pick up sound.
@grins047
@grins047 4 ай бұрын
You always do such an amazing job of explaining things. Your diagrams and animations are fantastic.
@lauradalmolin3605
@lauradalmolin3605 Жыл бұрын
Incredible video! Super easy to understand, congrats!
@dosgos
@dosgos Жыл бұрын
Clear and concise explanation.
@VHS_PAL
@VHS_PAL Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Can I suggest that at this point 9:50, you should have put it into a plastic box as a demonstration of safety. Turning the pot and holding the circuit still, isn't safe. Someone may decide to give it a go and then forget that the normally low voltage protoboard that they're using is now at mains voltage. I experienced 240V when I was nine and I went flying across my bedroom.
@lebasson
@lebasson Жыл бұрын
Fantastically explained, thank you.
@rodolforibas
@rodolforibas 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great work you did here in this video
@atec9228
@atec9228 Жыл бұрын
Muy interesante. A ver si lo subes en español para para poder enseñarlo a los alumnos. El funcionamiento de un triac está muy bien explicado. Felicidades
@mahmoudfoda8294
@mahmoudfoda8294 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video... But what is the important of bridge rectifier
@jihadkhorfan
@jihadkhorfan Жыл бұрын
excellent video, very easy to understand and follow up
@ysfkmlgvn
@ysfkmlgvn Жыл бұрын
Hi from Türkiye, And thank you so much
@troublehd7236
@troublehd7236 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video, I can learn so much from u, thanks man :)
@bokunochannel84207
@bokunochannel84207 Ай бұрын
beautifully explained
@ahmedhassan-wo6rn
@ahmedhassan-wo6rn Жыл бұрын
an excellent work and wonderful explain
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 10 ай бұрын
Excellent Video!!
@harismasoom6634
@harismasoom6634 9 ай бұрын
Thanks bro love your videos!!!
@chuckbenedict7235
@chuckbenedict7235 3 ай бұрын
Great explanation!
@panindrad4995
@panindrad4995 5 ай бұрын
Very good explanation,
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clear explanation...
@user-qs6ew2jd2l
@user-qs6ew2jd2l Жыл бұрын
Superb quality 👍
@meowme7644
@meowme7644 Жыл бұрын
thanks, very cool again 👍👍 have a nice week and keep going 😊
@surendersingal2192
@surendersingal2192 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for providing Demo of Dimmer working ( firing angle display in lab), using quadrac like combo. Jussojuan surender singal
@redtieprojects
@redtieprojects Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video.
@timothyellis6188
@timothyellis6188 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@MrRashidescu
@MrRashidescu 9 ай бұрын
Super, thank you
@thevintageaudiolife
@thevintageaudiolife Жыл бұрын
Great video Thanks!
@MowiWowi
@MowiWowi Жыл бұрын
bro u anwserd the question i seeked after for many moon thank u
@ranganatennakoon
@ranganatennakoon Жыл бұрын
very useful thanks
@Drxxx
@Drxxx Жыл бұрын
amazing channel!!
@sudheerkumar5966
@sudheerkumar5966 Жыл бұрын
Very very good sir
@tvamos73
@tvamos73 Жыл бұрын
The triac (thyristor) stop conducting if the current is less than the holding current (Ih). This is not obviously the zero crossing Voltage. (For example inductive loads like a motor or transformer.)
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
There are two conditions actually. Falling below Ih and reversing the mains current will unlatch the gate current.
@martinkulik9466
@martinkulik9466 Жыл бұрын
@@lolsypussy what that means? I am looking for dimmer to regulate flow with 220v ulka water pump, 50hz, 48w. I saw ppl using mainly dimmers that regulate lights,but someone also used this triac one, which I read is used to regulate revving motors such as drills. What's the difference ?
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
@@martinkulik9466 i actually have this generic triac PCBs that i manufactured for my college class but haven't had the time to test it out. I'm planning to use this to control the flow rate coming out from a submersible pump
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
@@martinkulik9466 the triac circuit is basically the same. Depending on the application, certain components are added for protection like a snubber, or addition delaying components to further delay the firing of the triac thus lowering further the output power
@coldscug
@coldscug 9 ай бұрын
I watched tons of videos regarding Triacs and could not get the real idea but after watching your video, it went straight into my mind. Thanks a lot. Very good delivery method. You got yourself a new subscriber.
@Edmorbus
@Edmorbus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@mibrahim4245
@mibrahim4245 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@chrisl2656
@chrisl2656 Жыл бұрын
If the R/C combination is altering the delay before the ON signal, why does the ‘scope at 10:08 make it look like it’s the OFF time that is being adjusted? Is it an effect of the inductive load?
@LimbaZero
@LimbaZero Жыл бұрын
I usually don't like to do 240V circuits on 2.54mm prototyping board or at least I will use single sided protoboard and remove unused copper pads.
@ullassasvihallimath9161
@ullassasvihallimath9161 Жыл бұрын
Amazing ❤
@mehrzadmehregan1720
@mehrzadmehregan1720 5 ай бұрын
Hey bro. The value of 3302 resistors is equal to 33K ohms. This numbering is for 1% resistors. I guess you have written the value of these resistors in the schematic as 3.3K ohms. I love your videos and I always make your projects. I also like the tone of your voice and your beautiful English accent😊
@jakubkusmierczak695
@jakubkusmierczak695 Жыл бұрын
Good one.
@lolsypussy
@lolsypussy Жыл бұрын
Were you not using isolation when probing mains AC?
@siddarthiyer8195
@siddarthiyer8195 10 ай бұрын
Hello, does this work for 110 AC as well? Thank you for the informative video!
@kiwiwelch3620
@kiwiwelch3620 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@carro2803
@carro2803 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Do you think those devices work for 12VAC too, or is it too low voltage? I need to be able to dim small 10 to 35W halogen lamps. Thank you!
@rgneaali1238
@rgneaali1238 9 ай бұрын
perfect❣
@saulocontas777
@saulocontas777 Ай бұрын
Nice!!
@math-electric2049
@math-electric2049 Жыл бұрын
Thanks❤
@svem1972
@svem1972 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing AC dimmer Voltage Regulator for speed controller, instead of 500k can i use 100k Pot, Please suggest if so any other components are required to change.
@motogee3796
@motogee3796 11 ай бұрын
So this also changes the output voltage and waveform. I think the sharper waveforms can affect/damage motors in the long run while its ok for bulbs & heating. I'm looking for a device that can control & adjust the power supply from the wall socket while maintaining the voltage at 240Vrms.
@drslartibartfass
@drslartibartfass Ай бұрын
This tutorial is quite overwhelming. Thank you for reverse engineering that common module. However, what really confuses me is the output of the oscilloscope. Why isn't the current chopped at the beginning of the sine wave?
@samuelolteanu
@samuelolteanu 9 ай бұрын
I have a small cheap portable induction cooktop (lots of mosfets inside). It works mostly fine but at low power it does not only dimm anymore, but powers on and off the induction coil as well. Not a problem in itself except when using it in a solar pv system where the inverter will constantly "lose" solar power trying to match the rapidly changing cooktop, making other stable appliances use grid as well even with plenty of sun. Is dimming it with a triac a bad idea?
@maxximumb
@maxximumb Жыл бұрын
Is this how soft start works on the motors on power tools like table saws work?
@MechanicForGMCCars
@MechanicForGMCCars Жыл бұрын
wuld those triac work on phase shifting sensors or inductive pick up coils pulse generators?
@mili_Computer
@mili_Computer 7 ай бұрын
Perfect WOW
@MD-qz6gk
@MD-qz6gk 7 ай бұрын
7:46 For what reason is the bridge rectifier placed in the circuit? And how do we calculate the components value?
@flyback_driver
@flyback_driver 9 ай бұрын
These are excellent for resistance heating devices but for ac motors especially ac induction motors it can be hard on your coils and the bearings. If you have sufficient cooling you really wont need to worry about that and it's not always the case but something that can happen. From what ive read about peoples experience it depends on the manufacturer but it's like 20% of people seemed to either fry their coils or like in my case keep having bearings go out. Could also be how i used it or others rewired the device wrong. Just figured id throw it out the to take into consideration. For what its worth this circuit absolutely does control ac induction motors.
@sureshlingabathina
@sureshlingabathina 4 ай бұрын
Subscribed.
@lww3988
@lww3988 Жыл бұрын
謝謝您!
@perkinatorfpv5553
@perkinatorfpv5553 Жыл бұрын
These are also sold as "solid state speed controllers" I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@RogerTannous
@RogerTannous Жыл бұрын
1. @7:54 what is the role of the bridge rectifier ? 2. It was worth mentioning the triac must be of snuberless type, otherwise you'd have to design the snubber network...
@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe
@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe Жыл бұрын
In the simple circuit, when the load is off (the DIAC threshold isn't reached), the voltage over C1 lags the input voltage. When the input voltage rises above 0V after the zero crossing, the cap still holds a negative charge from the previous cycle. So it starts up from a negative voltage. If the potentiometer is moved in th edirection to turn on the load, suddenly the TRIAC will fire. This will discharge C1, so at the next zero crossing, the voltage over C1 starts at 0 for the next cycle. This means that it reaches the DIAC threshold quicker in the next cycle. The result is a hysteresis effect, where power snaps up abruptly from zero, and you have to dial down the pot again to maintain a lower power level. The bridge rectifier discharges the capacitor (C3 in this case) when the input voltage is close to the zero crossing, even if the TRIAC doesn't fire, making sure that the cap starts charging from 0V in all cycles, both where the TRIAC conducts and when it doesn't. It gets rid of the "snap" effect and makes operation at low power levels much smoother.
@RogerTannous
@RogerTannous Жыл бұрын
@@HerrNilssonOmJagFarBe Thank you Jonas for the detailed explanation, much appreciated 😀
@user-fz5ec2zq3v
@user-fz5ec2zq3v 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Jonas for your explanation. It is very helpful to us beginners. Thank you.
@herrkronen9694
@herrkronen9694 5 ай бұрын
Hi ! Is it possible to achive some sort of PWM with DC and a triac ?
@CLARVO
@CLARVO Жыл бұрын
Superb 👍 , BTW could you make a tutorial on controlling ac appliances with arduino without relay ?? I need that for fast switching of ac current ( on / off )
@meowme7644
@meowme7644 Жыл бұрын
yes that would be cool..👍👍..and/or frequency converter?
@riperboyxl3216
@riperboyxl3216 Жыл бұрын
why when in the osciloscope there's "more wave" (bigger conduction angle) the power seems to be less since the motor spins lower? EDIT: it would've been good if you explained the minimum conducting angle due to the RC trigger
@geobrent
@geobrent Жыл бұрын
I purchased an SCR dimmer that looks exactly like the one at 5:13 in the video. So, based on the video and oscilloscope this dimmer is a trailing edge SCR correct? Trailing edge dimmers are supposed to work with dimmable LED lamps, so hopefully the one that I bought will work with my pool light LED driver that is rated at 120v AC . Here in Mexico the standard is 127v but it commonly varies up to 135v and I want to use the dimmer to lower the voltage by about 10%. What do you think about this?
@catherinemartinez8803
@catherinemartinez8803 Жыл бұрын
Sir, how to make the timing fine?.,i have a dimmer here but it's too coarse .,pls advice me.thank you
@tissapathiratna7761
@tissapathiratna7761 Жыл бұрын
Please show the full circuit with all components & values. Cheers
@heyderaliyev8976
@heyderaliyev8976 Жыл бұрын
again, one of the top content creators on KZbin, you proved it this time too
@MixwellSidechains
@MixwellSidechains 7 ай бұрын
Can I swap out the potentiometer for a microcontroller controlling it digitally with PWM? I assume that somehow the potentiometer was getting VCC and GND, can I hook these up to 5V In and GND and then the analog signal pin be replaced with a micro controller's PWM pin?
@siddarthiyer8195
@siddarthiyer8195 10 ай бұрын
Is there a way to attain a 100% duty cycle using this circuit? Thank you!
@eee_bangla
@eee_bangla Ай бұрын
Does the capacitor change the same way in AC that you explained. THE traditional charging and discharging happens in DC. Isn't it?
@zawilious
@zawilious 5 ай бұрын
does this work for universal brushed motors only ? or can work with induction motor
@chbonnici
@chbonnici 12 күн бұрын
why on your PCB there is only one capacitor and in the circuit there are 2? Thank you for the video.
@klarry95
@klarry95 Жыл бұрын
What am I doing wrong if the potentiometer is burning up when set to low resistance? I set this up on a breadboard and worked fine. But now when i soldered it doesen't. Only difference I know is that I am now using 4 triacs connected together?
@thunguyen5565
@thunguyen5565 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much. but can you explain my teacher's question: why do we need to use zero crossing when control power of AC load ? thank you.
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS Жыл бұрын
Because you need to fire the activation pulse of the TRIAC always at the same time. And since AC is oscilalting, in order to syncrhonise the pulse, we detect the zero corss and then we apply the pulse after the same amount of time, every time.
@naveenreddy1010
@naveenreddy1010 8 ай бұрын
Can this circuit be used for 120v 300 watt rice cooker ?
@AnilArya51
@AnilArya51 Жыл бұрын
: ) Thanks.
@tissapathiratna7761
@tissapathiratna7761 Жыл бұрын
Why does the new Triac get short circuited, for 80 w globe it works for test. but my my vacuum cleaner with all right parts it goes to full speed no control.?
@hendritresnahadi4146
@hendritresnahadi4146 Жыл бұрын
Why theres burning/flaming inside potensiometer when this circuit used with drill? Tx u sir 🙏
@baladar1353
@baladar1353 Жыл бұрын
The sparks that cause flaming/burning in the potentiometer are the consequences of the voltage spikes generated by the motor in your drill. You can get rid of those voltage spikes by soldering a small ceramic cap between the poles of the motor.
@RahulVerma-xm7xu
@RahulVerma-xm7xu 6 ай бұрын
Does this method allow less then half the power to be transmitted?
@SamuelMitchell1
@SamuelMitchell1 Жыл бұрын
Hey, have you seen the linus tech tips video where they do peltier cooling again? they mentioned your video as a good explanation of how they work
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS Жыл бұрын
Just seen it 😱
@SamuelMitchell1
@SamuelMitchell1 Жыл бұрын
@@ELECTRONOOBS pretty good praise, hopefully get you some new followers, you deserve it, your content is awesome!
@raviumarji539
@raviumarji539 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this post,very informative,i was trying to use ATTINY85 with this code instead of Arduino uno for pot control firing angle of triac ,please help me with necessary changes.
@jugnu361
@jugnu361 8 ай бұрын
What varies at output Current or voltage ??
@martinkulik9466
@martinkulik9466 Жыл бұрын
I read this dimmer is not for lights... Only for revving motors. I can't decide with dimmer to use for ulka 220v 50hz 48w ulka pump to regulate flow. This or the one used for lights. They use different mechanisms supposedly
@FREEDOM-v1u
@FREEDOM-v1u Ай бұрын
Does it really regulate voltage from 0 -220 v ac
@ksbskzjd376
@ksbskzjd376 Жыл бұрын
tenes un diagrama de como agregar un soft start para motor ac monofasico?
@DavidPeach10
@DavidPeach10 Жыл бұрын
For a motor, what does this do to torque? Does it stay the same, or decrease with the dimming of the AC "pulse" (or whatever you would call the dimming feature)?
@rama3njoy
@rama3njoy Жыл бұрын
same questions
@flyinglack
@flyinglack Жыл бұрын
You are essentially limiting power which affect both torque and speed.
@rama3njoy
@rama3njoy Жыл бұрын
@@flyinglack so its different with dc pwm ?
@klarry95
@klarry95 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Noob here, I was just wondering how much W will go over the potentiometer? With only 4,7kOhm and potentiometer turned to 0, would not this be several watts? // Mikael
@blackarnab4690
@blackarnab4690 Жыл бұрын
Is there any way to use 20K pot instead of 500K. Please let me know.
@jdelectron
@jdelectron Жыл бұрын
Can we make triac using BT 169 SCR as reverse parallel connection with common Gate
@iblesbosuok
@iblesbosuok Жыл бұрын
You'll need two timing caps, two diacs and two generic 1A diodes
@chriskevrekidis7836
@chriskevrekidis7836 Жыл бұрын
hello sir when working with high voltage why dont you use a differential probe so not to kill your scope
@chriskevrekidis7836
@chriskevrekidis7836 Жыл бұрын
Also why not making a soft starter with phase angle control just as great scott did in his video. Anyway very nice video
@Helal_Tech
@Helal_Tech Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you speak about snubber circuit?
@magnetiseur77
@magnetiseur77 Жыл бұрын
As making hundreds PCB each year I can tell you that: october prices at PCBWAY is really more expensive than JLC !
@manishjangra1711
@manishjangra1711 10 ай бұрын
its making an humming sound please make a video how to reduce that sound
@youyouwhatwhat-gr3kc
@youyouwhatwhat-gr3kc Жыл бұрын
hmm is it safe for the device in a long run? i have a fan, and wanna try to apply this but still not sure
@HSLElektronik
@HSLElektronik 11 ай бұрын
No, it is not recommended for any kind of motor using TRIAC. You should use VFD for AC motor variable speed. TRIAC only ideal for resistive load such as tungsten-filament or halogen lamp.
@lenslens7379
@lenslens7379 Жыл бұрын
Why schematic of AC induction motor speed control are so rare??
@mikeseba7817
@mikeseba7817 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@Dezza71
@Dezza71 7 ай бұрын
on that db3 has 40 pf in test :)
@gohan3243
@gohan3243 10 ай бұрын
5:13 the circuit diagram lacks the multi-turn pot.