Homemade BMS - Balanced LiPo Charger Multiple Cells and Current Limit

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@tom95076
@tom95076 10 ай бұрын
This project made me rethink my setup with an Adafruit solar charger. For my timemachine project to run longer using an Arduino Pro at 3.3v. I placed two Lipo Batteries in Parallel to have the same output of 3.7v with a larger running time or capacity when the sun was gone. I noticed the second battery drained more than the second battery once I place them in a commercial charger. Seeing your animations and showing single and multiple charging methods I now feel better about learning what are my mistakes. Thank You for sharing and keeping up on all the great content. Not everything is applicable but as makers we must learn from each other to share our project. Awesome overview and great tips. You are always setting the bar higher and higher for all makers.
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS 3 жыл бұрын
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@Undermada
@Undermada Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best videos I've ever saw with explanation of BMS! Thank you!
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius
@JohanDegraeveAanscharius 2 жыл бұрын
I read A LOT of explanations about BMS and to really understand it well, this is really the best. I let it rest overnight, asked myself questions, and looked at it again. Really, very very very best explanation out here!!
@jackwilliams2010
@jackwilliams2010 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few bms videos before this. I have to compliment on how well you explain how this works and how to build your own. You are very underrated and deserve more recognition. 5 stars!
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@davadoff
@davadoff Ай бұрын
If you put in a cell charged to 4.2v, but circuit was tuned to 4v or lower, wouldn’t it completely short out the cell? (at least till it reached 4v or lower)
@len8752
@len8752 11 ай бұрын
Great Video! I've been subscribed for the longest of time, but every now and then, you just publish more and more explanatory and informational videos that go briefly into the problems were are trying to solve step by step, stage by stage. Thank you so much! 6/5 Starts
@Clark-Mills
@Clark-Mills 3 жыл бұрын
Error: The output of R2, R1, R10 voltage divider at 5:00 is supposed to feed into the Ref pin of the TL431 with Anode to negative and cathode to the BD140. If you just swap the AN/REF labelled pins on the schematic you should be right.
@mahargha_debnath
@mahargha_debnath 2 жыл бұрын
bro have you tested your circuit please tell me it'll be a great help
@suzznshkya1098
@suzznshkya1098 2 жыл бұрын
So the reference pin of tl431 must be between R1 and R2 resistor?
@Induwara-Perera
@Induwara-Perera 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro, I also saw there is a mistake, after i fix that issue it almost works fine, but i recommend others to use 22k and 1k resistors for that voltage divider connected to tl 431 ref pin cause the ref input voltage is higher when you use two of 20k resistors.
@alexvanstaden6734
@alexvanstaden6734 Жыл бұрын
I also found that out after struggling setting the TL431. Good observation
@waltercortescarvajal7254
@waltercortescarvajal7254 Жыл бұрын
Hi, would you be so kind as to share the corrected plan, with the values of each component, thanks
@DrJALAGHARI
@DrJALAGHARI 3 жыл бұрын
What an easiest way to explain the difficult concepts. Amazing.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 2 жыл бұрын
True, this is honestly why i stopped electric builds years ago
@stevenA44
@stevenA44 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched quit a few of your videos and I just decided to subscribe. I've seen a lot of the things you make that might come in handy in the future.
@VrumsAdventures
@VrumsAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry if this was mentioned before but the datasheet for LM317 has an application specifically for battery charger. You can put the current limiting resistor at the output before the voltage divider that sets the output voltage... and since the current limiter will be pretty much >2 orders of magnitude less than the resistors in the divider, it shouldn't affect the output voltage. You save 1 LM317 this way :)
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
Great Idea ! Or use a Buck Converter with adjustable voltage and current regulation built-in
@SocialPerspective101
@SocialPerspective101 2 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate on this?
@VrumsAdventures
@VrumsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@SocialPerspective101 on what? I don't think links are accepted in YT comments (unless they're made to your own video) ... but I can try if you tell me which part you want me to elaborate on.
@SocialPerspective101
@SocialPerspective101 2 жыл бұрын
@@VrumsAdventures current limiter will be > 2 orders magnitude... I did not get this part
@VrumsAdventures
@VrumsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@SocialPerspective101 I believe it's easier to try and link you to the application. The LM317 datasheet has at chapter 9.3.6 the battery charger application I am talking about. There's the voltage divider that sets the CV part and the series current limiting resistor (Rs) that will set the max value for the charging current to your CC desired value. The CC part will not really be CC, but the current being drawn will not drop significantly during this time (it will drop with (Vbat - 1.25)/R1 and Vbat increases as the battery is charged). The CV part will stop the battery voltage from rising above the desired (usually 4.2V) value. Rs is more than 2 orders of magnitude (or 100 times) less than R1 or R2... and as such it will not significantly decrease the desired output voltage set by the divider (R1 and R2). If it's close to R1 and R2 than you're either limiting the current a lot or wasting it through the voltage divider... or both and you're setting yourself up for a hard calculation and less than optimal result. I hope this is more clear :)
@ShivamKumar-rp8kr
@ShivamKumar-rp8kr 3 жыл бұрын
I understood it well. Thanks for the simple explanation and animations. Loved it. ❤️
@power-max
@power-max 3 жыл бұрын
Nice build! I am looking to build a BMS for a huge build with 1000 or more 18650s I have on hand. This circuit does have quite a few important limitations though: No under voltage protection No over temperature protection No over current protection. The DIY project could be massively improved with the use of a low power microcontroller for each cell monitoring the voltage and using galvanically isolated (optocouplers) in a token ring or CAN network to transmit data back to a more powerful MCU that manages the series string. Active balancing is harder for sure. I have one idea involving using lots of gate drive transformers and implementing small basic forward converters for each cell to dump energy into a shared AC square wave bus, but have yet to get it to work right in LTspice.
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
This is the CHARGING "half" of a BMS. This does not have the LOAD "half" of a BMS ( load over-current & under-voltage ). He made that very clear at the beginning of the video.
@Brian_Of_Melbourne
@Brian_Of_Melbourne 3 жыл бұрын
Look at Adam Welch's channel kzbin.infovideos and search for 'diyBMS'.
@ventingMedia
@ventingMedia Ай бұрын
Can I get the circuit
@gkdresden
@gkdresden 5 ай бұрын
A very nice BMS circuit for smaller LiPo, Li-Ion oder LiFePO batteries. The advantage of the circuit is, that you can easily cascade the circuit for your desired s-number and you can charge it with a power supply which delivers enough current and a few volts more than required. The disadvantage is the power loss, but for smaller Cells it is quite useful.
@mehdikhan
@mehdikhan 3 жыл бұрын
Nice for understanding the concept of charging but there are very low-cost chips to the same thing with much more effencency.
@akhilsubhash7644
@akhilsubhash7644 3 жыл бұрын
right
@orwellophile
@orwellophile Жыл бұрын
But they all charge to 4.2v, which is sub-optimal for battery life. This circuit is great for battery packs you don’t use much, and would otherwise just zero out eventually
@AndriiBilous
@AndriiBilous Жыл бұрын
Nice project! The point you dont need to use 2 LM317 to limit U and I. I faced to this case as well. There is a scheme that allows to do this with one LM317. The scheme is mentioned as Load Regulation in the datasheet. Anв as usuall you need to use addшtional transistor for hight current.
@thalavalikaran262
@thalavalikaran262 10 ай бұрын
May I know how can we replace the loads from the diode to the motor in this circuit, can just replace all diodes with single 12V motor for 3s bms?
@maungmaungtint8572
@maungmaungtint8572 2 жыл бұрын
I had to build this circuit. Good working . Thanks a lot for your sharing of experience.
@officializm4171
@officializm4171 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative content. Dispelled many confusions. Thanks.
@backdemoletor4654
@backdemoletor4654 3 жыл бұрын
Finally another great video to watch
@ricardosanchez1638
@ricardosanchez1638 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Bravo bravo, great presentation!!
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome circuit and I actually have all the components except the battery box but I could just print one
@artursmihelsons415
@artursmihelsons415 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm.. LM317 old school, that always works and is tested for decades.. 👍 431 references is used even in cheap BMS modules for batteries and ultracap's from China.. Great video!
@mickeyfilmer5551
@mickeyfilmer5551 3 жыл бұрын
excellent ! concise ,informative and articulate !
@찌리릿-g8n
@찌리릿-g8n 3 ай бұрын
7:02 What is that blue element in the circuit ? I wonder what it does in the circuit.
@user-kf7yc2fo2k
@user-kf7yc2fo2k 8 ай бұрын
Good Day is there any problem with the circuit? Can i ask since we are having trouble adjusting the potentiometer. Is there any corrected schematic and instruction on how to adjust the potentiomer? Do i need to adjust the potmeter without connecting the lm317?
@ohmslaw6856
@ohmslaw6856 3 жыл бұрын
I have constructed this circuit and i have found just a few issues, but the circuit does work pretty good. My battery was 280mAh battery, datasheet called for a standard of 58mA charge, or max charge of 280mA.. i chose 58mA.. estimated charge time ~ (280/58mA) = 4.8 hours Because I have a power supply i figured I would skip the lm317 voltage regulation and simply use only one lm317 for CC and just use 4.2V from power supply for the input.. the issue with the lm317 in current mode is you can't use 4.2V input supply because the output will not provide CC at the given 4.2V output.. it states on datasheet of headroom around 3V or soo.. So i decided to use both lm317 for voltage and current.. like the circuit diagram shows but only CC comes first then Voltage regulation.. IMPORTANT you must have power supply 3 volts above battery level.. so for a 4.2V lipo i put a supply of 7.5V into the CC lm317 input and connected the output into the input of a lm317 in voltage mode.. with an output of 4.2V.. only needed 60mA.. P=(7.5-4.2V)(60mA)=200mW.. lm317 isn't even hot I could have used only one lm317 in both constant voltage and current.. but would have been bigger headache in calculations because of output impedance Also Iref into the tl431 is too low.. around 8mA is recommended.. for the voltage divider i used resistor values of 212.2 ohms for R1 and 313.5 ohms for R2.. this will provide more stable reference of exactly 4.2V I monitored my batteries voltage and current throughout the whole charging process.. the current started at my selected max current limit of 60 mA.. the battery voltage slowly rised.. once i hit around 4.19V the current slowly slowed down to 0 amps.. then the transistor opened and the battery stopped charging.. so the circuit does provide CC charging and CV charging.. the closer the battery gets charged to the supply voltage then obviously a trickle charge to 0 amps will occur.. Overall was a great learning circuit.. learned alot about tl431 and also lm317...
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 2 жыл бұрын
idk, I'm gonna take another 5 year break of electronics
@SocialPerspective101
@SocialPerspective101 2 жыл бұрын
How about the scenario where max input voltage is limited to 14.7 volts?
@valteroscarjentsch
@valteroscarjentsch Жыл бұрын
Faz tempo que estava procurando um circuito como esse. Muito bom. Interessantes explicações. Congratulações!
@sebastianelcaio8040
@sebastianelcaio8040 3 жыл бұрын
Amigo, que buen proyecto!!!! muchas gracias!!!! saludos desde Argentina GENIO
@radosawwalczak9630
@radosawwalczak9630 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, good stuff. But you make one mistake in your schematics. Current limit must go first, after that voltage regulation. If voltage regulation have to give 4.2V, then you need to add another 2V for LM317, then you need to add another 1.25V + 2V, which means power supply must be at least 4.2 + 5.25 = 9.45V or more.
@SocialPerspective101
@SocialPerspective101 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain why the additional voltage is required?
@alexandrprodanFOTO
@alexandrprodanFOTO 2 жыл бұрын
all voltage regulators have a voltage drop ( eg. 0.7 V for SI semiconductor jonction ), for LM317 is safe to use Vin-Vout at least 3V so no way to use 5V for one lithium cell that requires 4.2V.
@alexandrprodanFOTO
@alexandrprodanFOTO 2 жыл бұрын
I ment Linear Voltage Regulator as LM317 is.
@reptiloidx8942
@reptiloidx8942 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man . I got 60v li-ion battery pack for my powerful electric scooter and i got charger that seems to be overcharging the battery pack to 64v plus and it doesnet stop . Wheni asked the seller he said i can charge it all the way to 72v 😐which i think its hazard high alert 😬so tell me what is the maximum recharge voltage please ? Thank you
@schetenwapper6591
@schetenwapper6591 3 жыл бұрын
Why use diodes as a load instead of just a high power resistor?
@user-ih3kk8lh1v
@user-ih3kk8lh1v 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! What benefit is there to using this circuit over just putting the diodes in parallel with the battery?
@captivator13
@captivator13 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, Thanks bro :) Sam 🎵✌🏻
@yourigauthier290
@yourigauthier290 19 сағат бұрын
What should I change in this BMS design to make it work with a 2S2P configuration?
@hoofheartedicemelted296
@hoofheartedicemelted296 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome sir. Is it possible to build such a circuit with 12v batteries in mind and how would the components change accordingly? Thank you.
@MrKedrik
@MrKedrik 4 ай бұрын
Hi thank you it was very clear and very nicely explanatory. However I have still have a question. Is this homemade BMS protects cells from short circuit ? As far as I understand, we saw only the "charging" side of the BMS, nothing related to the "discharge", when the battery is connected to the load. Am I wrong ? If so, it would be nice to have some info about that topic as well. Thank you so much.
@riccardoprivitera1984
@riccardoprivitera1984 3 жыл бұрын
How can you put in parallel to the battery a 4.2 V voltage regulator if the transistor closes at 4.2V?
@sohamgaud7120
@sohamgaud7120 3 жыл бұрын
Sir i want to sometimes use it for 2s battery charge and sometimes for 3s battery charge so can I use the same circuit for 2s and 3s battery charge ?? PLEASE REPLY SIR 🙏🙏🙏🙏😇
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe that a 3S Charger will work with only two (2) Cells installed, with the third bay empty.
@judahosuigwe
@judahosuigwe Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video Sir. Please I am working with a 5s battery setup, what are the changes I will have to make for an efficient charging.
@inventorkr1
@inventorkr1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video my friend👉❤️
@BorisSiber
@BorisSiber Жыл бұрын
Thank you. May the force be with you :)
@rolandoreytorfonseca3112
@rolandoreytorfonseca3112 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente proyecto! Muchas gracias desde Cuba
@sohamgaud7120
@sohamgaud7120 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir very good video and explanation I understood whole video except 1 part and that is why you have connected 5 resistors of 10 ohms in series ?? [PLZ REPLAY 🙏 ]
@nalinux
@nalinux Жыл бұрын
Pay attention, there are several quite similar 431. The TL 431 pinout is Ref Anode Cathode, while the LM431 is Cathode Anode Ref or Cathode Ref Anode It's a mess ...
@kumar-np8dm
@kumar-np8dm 3 жыл бұрын
Can we measure air core inductor(lower value for rf projects) by a cheap 15$ lcr meter(4070lcr meter)? Please answer me.
@aymanmostafa7230
@aymanmostafa7230 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have benefited from your explanation, but I have a question: why 4 diodes and not one?‏‪
@ronostrenski8359
@ronostrenski8359 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Built a 5S version and works well.
@vobinhthu5299
@vobinhthu5299 10 ай бұрын
This project is very good!
@greatrespect1549
@greatrespect1549 Жыл бұрын
Your intro is great.
@pdanayal
@pdanayal Жыл бұрын
Excellent bro .what a valuable circuit. Like it .
@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц
@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц Жыл бұрын
Very understandable. Bit what aboit parallel battery configuration?
@alexfed2680
@alexfed2680 3 жыл бұрын
09:04 both circuits with LM317 may be combined to obtain and voltage and current limitation using only one LM317. No need to use TL431, external PNP and other stuff. Don't thank me.
@EctoMorpheus
@EctoMorpheus 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, no thanks to you
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
@@EctoMorpheus And your "REF" and "AN" pins are REVERSED at time @4:59. Re-check your schematic drawing !
@doguscanturkes3875
@doguscanturkes3875 Ай бұрын
can it use for lifepo4 batteries? Should I use by adjusting to 3,6v the zener diode?
@036_ridhoakbarilahzaim6
@036_ridhoakbarilahzaim6 9 ай бұрын
Instead of using LM317, why don't we use a buck or boost converter to stabilize the voltage?
@IgorSantarek
@IgorSantarek Жыл бұрын
This is great explanation!
@JohnDoe-xv1se
@JohnDoe-xv1se Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the explanation. Thanks. Love to see a more efficient example (for minimal heat dissipation). BTW: has anyone seen a protection, balancing and charging solution for four 3.7V 500mAh LiPo batteries in "parallel" and in circuit? Protection, balancing and charging, without removing the batteries. Every battery management IC manufacturer offers 1S and multiple series solutions, in circuit and out, but I can't find one offering an "in parallel in circuit" solution. What gives?
@creativecityis
@creativecityis 3 жыл бұрын
All bms regulate cells to 4.2v… with this setup I could charge to 80% and double the life cycle
@keeptrying7640
@keeptrying7640 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a electric engineer in getting the bill done do you have a site where I can try it out
@keeptrying7640
@keeptrying7640 2 жыл бұрын
And also can I change the value to a lower voltage
@jehirulislam3047
@jehirulislam3047 2 жыл бұрын
My battery is 3.7 v .is it workable
@youseff500
@youseff500 2 жыл бұрын
@@jehirulislam3047 yes. That's its nominal voltage. He explained in the video that the output voltage will drop to 3.7v. All lipo cells are 3.7v.
@ddmaster6994
@ddmaster6994 Жыл бұрын
Diagram?
@thomassorensen7907
@thomassorensen7907 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Is it a normal voltage source that is charging the battery @ 6:29? I just dont see how the diodes will limit anything through the battery when battery and diodes are connected in parallel?
@thomassorensen7907
@thomassorensen7907 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrej Malik I dont think I understand the schematic then. If you have an ideal voltage source, then you can put whatever in parallel. If that is the case, I dont see what the diodes or any other circuit would do?
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomassorensen7907 The transistor will start turning-on and it will BYPASS just enough of the charging current around the cell and into the diodes, to maintain a constant 4.2 volts per the LM431. It is the LM431 that senses the 4.2 volts and it turns-on the transistor, as needed. The diodes are just a "dumb" LOAD, just like a resistor.
@thomassorensen7907
@thomassorensen7907 3 жыл бұрын
@@vtorsi610 Ok so it is a current source. Missed that part.
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomassorensen7907 Correct, at 4.2 Volts the LM431 will turn-on the BJT just enough to BYPASS the 600 milliamps of charging current. The BJT will then dissipate 50% (1.25 Watts) and the three diodes in total will dissipate the other 50% (1.25 watts) = 2.5 Watts of max dump load, to keep the cell at 4.2 volts. I would replace the 3 diodes, with 3 resistors. And I would select their resistance, such the transistor runs much cooler. I do NOT like running transistors or diodes "HOT". Resistors are the perfect dump load - not semiconductor components. For longevity, semiconductors must run cool.
@shivamvaid601
@shivamvaid601 3 жыл бұрын
It's good. Not highly efficient but works in a jiffy.
@МобилиславОткосилантий
@МобилиславОткосилантий 2 жыл бұрын
Высококачественные видео, у этого гениального парня! и почему то , так мало лайков? Ау люди проснитесь, ваш лайк - это уважение автору видео , за его труд.
@WagonLoads
@WagonLoads 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question/suggestion for a video idea... I saw a video from someone showing how to use a 2.7volt 500F super capacitor for a spot welder for LiPo batteries.. But they never explained how to properly charge the cap without going over it's rated voltage. Can you do a video showing how to make it the right way?? A proper Super Cap charging circuit... to be used as a spot welder. Thanks!
@venom_ftw9316
@venom_ftw9316 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. What about for Parallel cells?
@짱짱맨-r6e
@짱짱맨-r6e 6 ай бұрын
How can i know the accurate resistivity value for limiting charging voltage? Because i wanna use static value resist instead of potentiometer. And thanks for helpful video
@keeptrying7640
@keeptrying7640 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Daly BMS a long time ago and I can't say I'm happy with it cause it makes one battery go over voltage I got lifepo4 will your BMS work for me . I'm using the batteries for a solar system on my house
@olaleyejoshua949
@olaleyejoshua949 Жыл бұрын
Good 1. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
@Noxoreos
@Noxoreos 3 жыл бұрын
The nominal voltage of most lithium cells is actually 3.7V and not 3.8V. The latter is called "HV". The higher ones go up to 4.35V and not 4.2V. But there are also some older cells that are only 3.6V nominal and they end at 4.1V. So be careful and check the writing on the actual cell. If there is no nominal voltage written on it, then check the part number or don't charge higher than 4.1V if in doubt. Better safe than sorry with lithium batteries.
@LimbaZero
@LimbaZero 3 жыл бұрын
Should that voltage regulation be after current limiting. In LM317 datasheet recommends 3V headroom. Some examples for 50 mA charging it recommends Vbat + 4.25V (Vref + headroom) for input voltage.
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS 3 жыл бұрын
hmm I did not think on that. Thanks for this tip, I'll look into that!
@Brian_Of_Melbourne
@Brian_Of_Melbourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@ELECTRONOOBS Also, there's a voltage drop of 1.25 V across the current sensing 2 Ohm resistor, how is that taken into account?
@freshersofbose456
@freshersofbose456 Жыл бұрын
commercial bms also has over discharge protection and balance discharge features.
@dharmakissoon
@dharmakissoon 3 жыл бұрын
hey great vid mad props. can this that lead battery charger?
@shafeeqahamed3669
@shafeeqahamed3669 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, is there any possibility to add a fuel gauge to the circuit , so that I can check the remaining charge in the battery ? like through a seven segment display ??
@BesbesCat
@BesbesCat 8 ай бұрын
Hello. I can't seem to get this circuit working right. Not sure why we need the voltage divider at the anode, It drops the voltage at the potentiometer. Tried running the zener without the divider and only the pot, It holds the voltage correctly at 4.16v but now I am getting negative voltage at the emitter of the transistor. Also I am very new to this. Your circuit seems helpful. I live in a country with import restrictions and I am trying to build battery packs for our daily dose of electrical outages. Thanks for your video. would appreciate if you could help me with this.
@pagliacci7430
@pagliacci7430 3 ай бұрын
Look into the datasheet of the tl431, it's supposed to have a voltage divider at the ref pin as this is the one that controls how much voltage will at the output (cathode), the anode should go to ground.
@PintaoLoko
@PintaoLoko Жыл бұрын
I have a question.i have some lipo here that no matter how long they charge they never reach 4.20/4.25 volts. I was wondering how to make a circuit to show the battery is not charging properly. Maybe use some circuitry based on time lapse. Do you have a. Idea? Just one more question: how to add a temperature control based?
@ramesesmoses1741
@ramesesmoses1741 2 жыл бұрын
what can you recommend for it to work on 48 volts system 200 ah life04 battery with balancing current up to 6 amps? thanks and great video.
@josedasilva4904
@josedasilva4904 Жыл бұрын
Excellent BMS explanation, congrats!. I only have NPN transistors, how will the circuit be? Thanks a lot.
@BeetleJuice1980
@BeetleJuice1980 Жыл бұрын
If we use a 5s bms we need a constant current source? Bms has protections but it's not a charger so I guess we must use a constant current power supply to every bms?
@purvr4626
@purvr4626 3 жыл бұрын
this looks interesting, can we replace the BJT with P-ch mosfet? also is the ref pin supposed to connect to negative of batt or its just a error on the diagram?
@Mega-24
@Mega-24 3 жыл бұрын
Hola buenas, muy buena idea y video, quisiera saber si puedo utilizar el LM336 en lugar del TL431 y que modificación tendría que hacer?Desde ya muchas gracias!
@stefanb.933
@stefanb.933 11 ай бұрын
hello. Can I use IRF instead of BD? do you have a scheme with NPN transistors?
@jerjer4150
@jerjer4150 9 ай бұрын
i understand it a little but now how to set it up with say 12 single cells that are in 3s groups but in parallel with the other groups so 4 total in parallel. can you just connect the bms in parallel with each row of 3s?basically instead of one 3s how to run with a pack of 4 (in parallel to boost cap)??please help and thanks.
@jitencaleb7075
@jitencaleb7075 Жыл бұрын
Good job... But suppose I want to have the solar panel supply an the input voltage from 12 to 18v and want a 12 volts output
@John_Smile
@John_Smile 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the idea. Have we seen how the upper threshold is limited (4.2 V), but haven't we seen how the lower threshold is limited (3.2 V) ?
@John_Smile
@John_Smile 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know a place where you can buy parts for a BMS ? I would buy too!
@Guttfried
@Guttfried 3 жыл бұрын
Can you also use it to charge a battery pack (5p connection)? So not each one individually but all together.
@clarencementor4862
@clarencementor4862 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how to make the the JLBC circuit board with the template and solder paste?
@muhammadbilal2000
@muhammadbilal2000 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I need to know that how important are the 20k resistors an 20k trimpot? Can I use 10k resistors and a 10k pot instead? Also, what can I use a resistor instead of the 4 diodes? If yes, what value? TIA
@feliperoque18
@feliperoque18 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation, but i was wonder how its possible in my case i make a 3s2p bms circuit? i'm having a lot of doubts about this topic, one of them is how i will make this kind of circuit and why only bms are sells with 3s, 4s, 5s options instead of 3s2p, 4s2p and soo on...
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
I know that keysight dmm is over a decade old but it's timeless. I love it. It must be 4.5 digit is it?
@laszlowinkler2595
@laszlowinkler2595 Жыл бұрын
Just a question : does it possible to leav this circuit on the cells - I would like to install into an RC transmitter and can not remove it when the charging process finished ?
@Seu_Lunga
@Seu_Lunga 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could improve by using an opamp to compare total output voltage to input and cut the charge
@fiandaja2594
@fiandaja2594 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the circuit explanation
@ricardosanchez1638
@ricardosanchez1638 Жыл бұрын
How would you design a 144V battery BMS. Not sure you can simply add more batteries and listed components? Some of the components would require different component types to be able to work with potentially 185Vdc in a 120Vac standard system. Thanx again for your presentation. Learned lots from it.
@AdamTheBot
@AdamTheBot 7 ай бұрын
Inductive loads might not work.
@sohamgaud7120
@sohamgaud7120 3 жыл бұрын
SIR can it work with 9 volt as input power ❓❓❓❓ PLS REPLY🙏🙏🙏🙏
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
Each LM317 requires an additional 3 volts, above the (1S, 2S, 3S) Battery Pack voltage.
@sohamgaud7120
@sohamgaud7120 3 жыл бұрын
@@vtorsi610 Then will it work ?? with 9volt 🙏🙏
@vtorsi610
@vtorsi610 3 жыл бұрын
@@sohamgaud7120 Can you compute this formula? Minimum Input Voltage = 3v + 3v + ( #cells x 4.2 volts )
@mrDarksand
@mrDarksand 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, does this mean that if i want my cells to stop charging at 3,9 or 4v, that i can just adjust the potentiometers?
@Iamsuccesspro
@Iamsuccesspro 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rikb.7772
@rikb.7772 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if there is a video on a much more efficient charger?
@EpinceKopiO
@EpinceKopiO 9 ай бұрын
The CC doesn’t work very well as the headroom space for maximum current for LM317 is too large, the battery must be in 2.7V just for it to be in CC mode, which is too low for any lithium ion battery. Am I doing something wrong or is the designed flawed ? Calculation - Vout plus 1.25V ref + 3V headroom for the mode to be in CC
@unglaubichuberlieber8048
@unglaubichuberlieber8048 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, one question, would this work if one mix cells with different ah ???, and please stay healthy !!! and continue with your work in lithium battery cells !!!
@bartholomewkottey7230
@bartholomewkottey7230 Жыл бұрын
Good teacher! Please I need the full picture and diagram for two or more cells. The explanation is perfect! Thanks God bless you
@michaelpagalis1397
@michaelpagalis1397 Жыл бұрын
In voltage protection circuit ( if the cell is full charge the circuit will bypass with 4 diodes) so the 12v input will go directly to the second cell and damaged Is that correct?
@mikeghfawaz4547
@mikeghfawaz4547 2 жыл бұрын
question:when the ZD tl341 is open can this cause slowly discharge the battery because the transistor and diods load ?
@roniecrisestimada2717
@roniecrisestimada2717 Жыл бұрын
can I use a power resistor in replacement of the diodes as the load?
@suzznshkya1098
@suzznshkya1098 3 жыл бұрын
How did u show charging and discharging of battery from circuit diagram, using which app?
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