Elektron Machinedrum // Still Relevant Today?

[@ElectronicazMusic]

Great vid. Thanks. I shall be rewatching this again tomorrow when my new MkII arrives!

[@theway3058]

I bought this unit when it came out. Seams so long ago. Over 15 years maybe. Thing was back then there was no utube to help us out with figuring out how to use it. Was a big learning curve. Great vid.

[@OoraMusic]

same here, bought it and sold it. Shame on me

[@burger659]

Still unique today and way better for industrial / experimental techno than the analog rytm !

[@OoraMusic]

agreed

[@71collective]

Defo mate

[@VDJ4500]

I sold my Analogrytm but keeping the Machinedrum :). I just had to accept I didn’t like nor cared about the analog sounds on Analogrytm much. Also the filters were too “screamy” for my taste…

[@lockyp204]

This and monomachine are still the best sounding machines that Elektron have put out. They definitely have their own sound

[@harveytherobot]

Wish I had never sold my Monomachine. Now it’s twice as expensive, or more, used.

[@lockyp204]

@@harveytherobot Yeah the horse has bolted unfortunately. You need to have a “win” somewhere or really be prepared to go all out to purchase either of these machines now

[@OoraMusic]

Need a Monomachine!!

[@CO5MA]

Oh yes

[@Sonmz]

@@OoraMusic Need both of them) thnx for this video!

[@vinylarchaeologist]

I think the Machinedrum in terms of product design is Elektron at its peak. That thing is a timeless beauty of an instrument. Crazy to think that it was discontinued in 2016, and you could still buy them new in 2017. That is not that long ago, yet it's from an entirely different era.

[@OoraMusic]

really! didn't know you could buy until 2017!!

[@vinylarchaeologist]

@@OoraMusic Yes, production of the Machinedrum was officially stopped in June 2016, and I read in the Elektronaut forums that you could still buy the last remaining stock in early 2017… If only I‘d have known back then…

[@patrikkonat3085]

@@vinylarchaeologist I Mean if you need one I can probably hook you up!

[@eyesintheskies]

Remember them coming out & immediately wanting one but £1500 to my teenage self was just inconceivable 😂 If only I’d realised it would be a machine for life perhaps I would have found the means.

[@_EightySix]

I'm fairly certain if Elektron merged a Machinedrum with a Digitakt in a Rytm type body it'd outsell all their other machines, especially if they updated the pads to larger and more sensitive ones and added the Octatrack crossfader 😅 Oh crap I completely forgot the analog filters and envelopes.

[@OoraMusic]

I hope, after buying 2 Machinedrum, they will not reissue it ahah

[@MPTYmusic]

Love it. Best piece of gear i own :) I have the UW+drive version, bought it used right before they call it discontinued so it cost me like half of the price it goes nowadays :)

[@OoraMusic]

good call my friend!

[@elifan2523]

I’m so lucky to own a barely touched UW+ and a Monomachine mk2 SFX 60+, the possibilities are limitless with these machines ❤

[@gilm677]

Very cool video. I love the simplicity and honesty. Thanks and more videos please.

[@OoraMusic]

thanks!

[@therealrydan]

Worth noting: The CTRL-8P machine isn't just useful for glitching/happy accidents/performance control. Since it runs om it's own sequencer track, you can program parameter locks for the track being controlled in the middle of programmed slides on the controlled track, or program slides between different steps on the controlled track and on the CTRL-8P track. This gives a HUGE lock-felxibility, not even easily acheived on the more modern machines that can do trigless trigs. (For inctande, how do you sequence a stepped filter movement on each of the steps 1-8 on the octatrack while simlutaneously sliding other parameter locks between steps 1 and 8? I don't think you can? But with CTRL-8P, you can. Kind of a rant, and perhaps obvious to most, but I know it took me a good while before I realized this use for CTRL-machines, so I though I'd point it out...

[@OoraMusic]

Great point! I have still to learn the machine inside out!

[@du5koo]

Wow thank you , i got this machine for 7 years and learned soemthing new from your video .

[@OoraMusic]

amazing!

[@XanderEwald]

It sounds fantastic! Somehow I completely missed out on this back when it was released. Might have to get one second hand.

[@OoraMusic]

one of the coolest !

[@creepyjanitor]

Imagine a machine drum with all the sequencing freedom of the new devices, god what a dream

[@OoraMusic]

definitely!

[@AName-mg2bd]

@@OoraMusic @schmeer and it's called the Electron Syntakt!

[@xc3n]

@@AName-mg2bd nah it`s called megacommand

[@atuanoiniin]

The best drum machine ever built and with the new unofficial fw it's more relevant than ever, especially with the MCL 4.0.

[@OoraMusic]

need to try the MCL

[@worldofmuu]

Absolutely no reason not to use the custom firmware. I have the UW+ and megacommand and you cannot ask for more.

[@worldofmuu]

Oh, well and stick the AH on it for a final touch.

[@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac]

MCL? Megacommand?

[@atuanoiniin]

@@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac Yeah

[@mattkaz9604]

Good video. A lot of the original MD videos are old and short and lack detail, good to have fresh and updated vids coming in on this gear.

[@OoraMusic]

Much appreciated! Hope to have chance to try an UW and a Machinedrum soon

[@bentropy]

Very helpful, thank you. Useful seeing control-al demo’d. Some really nice kits/patterns of yours you pass through. I hope you find a UW mk2! Still learning how to use mine - it’s deep! It would love it if you could do some more demos (especially if you get your hands on a UW). Elektrons make sense once you ‘get it’ but wrapping one’s head around the features and possibilities seems to take some time. Challenging but rewarding and usually fun,

[@OoraMusic]

finally got one, new demos coming next year

[@BeniRoseMusic]

I remember watching Dntel's studio tour back in 2007 or so and he showcased the Machinedrum and Monomachine and I was pining after them for years. It wasn't until several years later Elektron started putting out more gear and became a more popular name. Still would love a Machinedrum!

[@OoraMusic]

will check that video!

[@rehplica]

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[@robertgarvansnyder4665]

So glad to see some of the Machinedrum legacy alive in the Syntakt. My friend Cory (RIP) was a wizard on this thing.

[@OoraMusic]

I have to say Syntakt has some MD vibe for sure!

[@albertosalza1138]

Top sound e Top video. Grazie e complimenti amico

[@OoraMusic]

Grazie a te!

[@randydarklight]

23:45 yeah, that base kick is awesome plus the rest of the seq. It is very special. I can imagine how hypnotising that was in a live show very loud. 😎

[@OoraMusic]

yeah that would be awesome to hear!

[@earlsfield]

Yeesssss, one of the machines i will never let go.

[@OoraMusic]

same!

[@earlsfield]

@@OoraMusic I actually know a guy who is selling one - let me know if you are interested, he is in States too. I love my Tempest, my AR MK2 and Pulsar 23 (I also have some super old samle based Yamaha and Korg machines from mid 90s), but nothing sounds like Machine Drum. I have a "updated" version with more memory, but my main thing here is core sound, that somehow I just cant get on any of the mentioned machines.

[@stolester]

@@earlsfield a gdje se mogu poslušati tvoji radovi, vidim da si aktivan na dosta sličnih videa, poz

[@earlsfield]

@@stolester Zdravo. Trenutno sam svukao ceo svoj katalog sa neta, re-upload na novi label, pingnucu ti ovde kada zavrsim.

[@bilonggrisimmeri]

Great review. My first and only Elektron product is SID Station, bought new. Syntakt seems similar to Machinedrum. I love sounds with lots of sizzle high harmonics and aliasing. On the minus side, having all tracks same length makes everything a bit 4-on-the-floor, so better sequencers are out there. On my list are Erica Synths LRX-02 or another Roland groovebox or drum machine. Not sure if Conditional trigs here would be better than Roland's 64 drums per kit that let you programme numerous variations of the same hit. Maybe slower that way?

[@OoraMusic]

I really love conditional trigs, I always use only 16 steps to make lot of variations. Syntakt can go in a similar territory as MD, but I won't change the MD with it :)

[@rustyhex9899]

@@OoraMusic syntakt is much more simple. its more rytm + cycles than md

[@thomasboesgaard]

After this, I think we will expect to see a video about the monomachine as well :-)

[@OoraMusic]

aah too expensive at this point

[@subradial]

Another great video, I am among the lucky owners of Machinedrum UW+ MKII and it's definitely one very special instrument with a lot of character and unique sounds/possibilities, I am planning to add Monomachine at some point as well, just love Elektron machines!

[@OoraMusic]

I d love a mnmchine too!!!!

[@subradial]

@@OoraMusic I think you should get it! I am definitely getting one even if I have to sell few other pieces of gear to fund it, life's too short and they don't get cheaper either, I honestly doubt Elektron will ever re-create it in the same depth / sound character as the original...

[@cougarman8]

I sold my UW MK2 in 2019 for $1000 😣 mint condition! But I didn’t use much sampling anyway so it’s ok! I just got another non UW and this vid was very helpful to teach me LFOs. Thank you for your wonderful videos!!

[@OoraMusic]

glad to hear that!

[@Bananskuden]

I bought the MK I when it came out, and I still love it. Great build quality and a very unique sound. The battery is a **** to change. I had to remove countless screws, take out 3 PCBs and use a soldering iron. Hopefully the later models are better designed in that regard.

[@OoraMusic]

daaaaaamn, hope I don't have to do that soon

[@atarirob]

Luckily, they revised the board when the UW+ models came out so no more soldering! Accessing the battery is pretty easy, remove the front panel screws, then the top PCB screws and it's right there.

[@ritualsoundsystem]

64 kits is the perfect amount if you build or download a project with a different blank kits saved to each pattern within a project. This method helps keep you from overwriting the kit used on the previous pattern when changes are made. Just copy paste, then change.

[@artexpanse]

27:35 "That was shit.." 😂 Classic Elektron madness

[@OoraMusic]

:D

[@mickvdzwan]

I bet they all sound nice ( had the alphabase, rytm mk2 ) but im especially interested in the ' with this I always come up with something different'. With that in mind, is this cooler then the Perkons you think?

[@OoraMusic]

hard to say. I prefer the sounds of the MD, but the Perkons sequencer is just amazing. Both super creative machines, if I had to chose one I think I would keep the MD.

[@mickvdzwan]

@@OoraMusic well that doenst help :) if i want a MD, i want the UWmk2 and thats more expensive than the perkons. The perkons seems somewhat limited.

[@mickvdzwan]

U also had the Isla s2400? That looks like the most versetile of the 3 ( MD/Perkons/s2400 )

[@TH3_FURY]

Very efficient and clear explanations ! Great work ! Sub + 1 ;)

[@OoraMusic]

Thanks!!

[@dfreeman120]

Best piece of kit I ever used

[@OoraMusic]

it is brilliant

[@theuntouchables808]

Such a Sick machine . Having So many LFO will Can Get you into FM Syntheses in no time . I Did the Latest FW update And It really transformed this machine into a hole other instrument . For some reason I forgot about the Control All track For Set para lock .. THX do you know if you can glide the Control all trigs ? The Only thing missing On this Is conditional Trigs & Micro timing . I was kinda hoping for a re-release as this machine Is 20years old now but ELEKTRON seem to be stuck on 8 channel machines now .

[@OoraMusic]

Yes there are few missing things but I still feel this machine is a masterpiece. Can't wait to try a UW one

[@adrianroethlisberger4626]

Machinedrum was elektron at its peak, when no-compromise nerdy-in-the-garage-modular-experimentation was met with visionary entrepreneurship, before the company got too succesful and suddenly had to serve too many different stakeholders at the same time

[@OoraMusic]

I agree. I add the Octatrack too.

[@atarirob]

I think Elektron's radical shift from radical innovators to making fashionable toys for guys who spend 6 hours a day on Reddit has more to do with the fact that the people who designed the Monomachine, Machinedrum, Octatrack, etc., have either left the company for good or sadly passed away.

[@montorgueilrecords]

Very interesting! 😃😎 New subscriber here! Good job my friend! 👍👍👍

[@OoraMusic]

Thanks!!

[@baddriddimworkshop]

i used to have one, i personally dont like theyre controls very much, i just didnt like the way the knobs reacted, maybe was it at time i was looking at the screen too much. a couple years ago i had one of those cheaper dm,s they made, same feel. but i think they were the first to be serious with parameter locks. And of course what Autechre used to do with them is so mind blowing...

[@OoraMusic]

the older machine are a little harder to work with I agree. But definitely they shaped the future of desktop synths!

[@thesadarsenalfan3319]

Back when elektron didnt have 7 machines that dobble dip on 95percent of their functions x) this was peak elektron

[@OoraMusic]

this machine and octatrack are two of the best machine ever made

[@thesadarsenalfan3319]

@@OoraMusic i wish i had the guts to pull the trigger on a used octatrack. Only heard good things. And i know it sounds wierd but from the current elektron line its really that and the syntakt that speaks to me for some reason. Not to say anything is bad from elektron, actually the oppisite. Its just what would fit in to my setup. You point out why i love the machine drum well in this video. Its just hard to get bad sounds out of it. Had one years ago, i was stupid enough to sell it… Ive tried my friends alpha base and tempest aswell. They both give me the same feeling as the machinedrum =damn hard to make bad drum sounds on.

[@thesurgingmass]

Sampling into the UW and then sending the sample to the Analog Rytm MK1 via MSD (midi sample dump) was a great workflow tbh.

[@OoraMusic]

oh interesting, didn't know you can do that

[@thesurgingmass]

@@OoraMusic seems most people don’t. Super great workflow for getting those 12 bit samples into the AR for some analog filtering.

[@thesurgingmass]

@@OoraMusic correction: SDS - Sample Dump Standard.

[@diehammerham]

My favorite influencesizer!

[@OoraMusic]

:D

[@tobillusion]

beside being one of the best drummachine from the last 20year. It's also one of the better sequencer main brain for your hardware setup. Tell me another sequencer with 16 midi tracks 3 voice polyphony, and 6cc's per track (beside mby the deluge). and if you dont need all of them you can use some tracks for live resampling or make a control track/ control all.. controlling more cc's. You also have a full song mode. It's so much in there.

[@OoraMusic]

yes, best thing ever

[@ryanhom3006]

Kawaii q80 ex

[@atarirob]

Yamaha QY700 has 32 tracks, 32 voice polyphony, unlimited CC's per track, a bar cap of 999 and a note cap of 110,000 notes...and it came out in 1996. The Roland MC50 has similar specs, and that thing is from 1994. Do some research man, as far as hardware sequencers go the MD is outdated and mediocre at best.

[@manuelsirotti9340]

Can Import also Sample ? Great Sound really !!! From 15 min. Wow. They sounds like samples

[@OoraMusic]

yes you can but is a long and tedious process. they upload via midi !

[@SONICrider]

Hi, cool vid - first time I see some things explained that I gonna use. Question: the new firmware holds all things that are in the original plus the mentioned extra's? So also the original kits? I don't want to loose those options - thanks getting back & take care!

[@OoraMusic]

Yes it does, they recommend a backup, but I updated and all my stuff was right there.super recommended!

[@SONICrider]

@@OoraMusic - thanks - gonna give it a try - take care!

[@Rustik1722]

Do you prefer Machinedrum or Rythm? 1 choice only. Thanks. Xmas shopping

[@OoraMusic]

Machinedrum , no doubt.

[@atarirob]

Buy both. They're both great. The Rytm was the last flash of Elektron's greatness imo before they started making toy synths for Reddit dwellers.

[@71collective]

The box will always be a monster at the forefront of drum machines👌👌

[@OoraMusic]

agreed

[@71collective]

@@OoraMusic happy new year from Glasgow 🥃

[@patrikkonat3085]

@OoraMusic have you tried using the Machine Drum with a Megacommand? Its an entirely different machine. You need to try it.

[@OoraMusic]

Yes I need to try it!

[@concrete_cold]

Can it be recorded into the DAW via Overbridge?

[@OoraMusic]

no sadly

[@Gianluccazz]

Do You know if the update it's working in a sps 1 no uw version?

[@OoraMusic]

Yes, mine is no UW, but not sure if it has to be MK2

[@ShaneNull]

It’s incredible I miss mine I don’t need uw because you can process external audio, also in some ways it’s more powerful than their newer models

[@OoraMusic]

Somehow I think the same!

[@Mr.Tubster]

Hi, thx 4 the upload 😎😍😎 good ideas and infos! Subscribed you for more 😊 c ya

[@OoraMusic]

thanks!

[@alienanxiety]

Your screen looked nice. Was it updated? Every machinedrum I've seen has red screen.

[@OoraMusic]

I bought it like this used, my other MD has a red screen!

[@asyncron_os]

There´s no better techno drum machine than this one, fights the plonk module

[@OoraMusic]

agreed!!

[@festuswilliams654]

Plonk?

[@PNovak87]

mine just died and i bought a rytm mk2, and i’m desperately missing my MD.

[@adamsmith7058]

Any instrument is as relevant as you want it to be. Lots of acoustic instruments have been around, in various iterations, for hundreds sometimes even thousands of years. Asking if the Machine Drum is still relevant is like asking if a guitar is still relevant. It all depends how you use it. As it is, if it were on offer I'd take one of these little bad boys in a shot. It's only a matter of time before Behringer makes a clone of it, sparking renewed interest in it.

[@OoraMusic]

true, forgive me the clickbait title, you know you have to catch some attention :D

[@xisotopex]

how similar is this to the octatrack? this seems to overlap the most with the octatrack compared to the other elektron machines....

[@Claidheambmor]

One is a sampler, one is a percussion synthesiser

[@adrianroethlisberger4626]

Machinedrum is king !

[@OoraMusic]

hear hear!!!

[@PeaceDub]

The Machinedrum and Monomachine is still relevant today.. Fun fact: I have a Machinedrum Tattoo on my arm.

[@OoraMusic]

I want a monomachine :)

[@granolakitti8521]

We need a MK3!

[@OoraMusic]

that would be wonderful

[@hruine]

Of course it still.

[@OoraMusic]

:)

[@ConsoleGlow]

💗

[@OoraMusic]

Thanks!

[@DavidChatterton-j6b]

I have the SPS-1UW +MKII and I don't care about the sequencer because I use an AKAI MPC ONE for that purpose. This drum machine will be worth piles of cash someday and it was used on many hit house dance records. I might sell mine. Mine is like brand new with original box, manual, and turbo midi device. I live below you in Connecticut.

[@xc3n]

XD The MD looks so small in your hands, you must be a giant hahaha

[@OoraMusic]

ahah yes im a pretty big boy :D

[@mattgooderson]

Is the Machinedrum the most iconic drum machine of the last 20 years?

[@OoraMusic]

Definitely one of them

[@noahrubin7680]

If I can't afford this what is a good alternative?

[@OoraMusic]

syntakt is amazing

[@noahrubin7680]

@@OoraMusic Does it feel similar at all?

[@noahrubin7680]

@@OoraMusic I'm worried the syntakt sounds too clean

[@atarirob]

Consider Max/MSP and learning how to build your own instruments. Once you gain a moderate understanding of sound design you'll be able to create Machinedrum-adjacent sounds with relative ease, a lot of the Machinedrum's sounds are actually quite simplistic (in terms of synthesis, with the possible exception of the PI machines), but they really open up because you're given a huge amount of control over each track. Building your own kits in software like Max is really the only alternative tbh, the Machinedrum is quite unique.

[@__3028]

relevant? why is that even a question. The machinedrum will always be legendary

[@OoraMusic]

:D

[@AnalogFlava]

is ELEKTRON MACHINEDRUM SPS-1 UW MKII the best of them or which one is, im confused with their silly titles they gave all their machines. 😂

[@OoraMusic]

yes the best you can get is that one!! :D

[@AnalogFlava]

@@OoraMusic so thats why the price is sky high and if i get it right it has 16 tracks compared with 8 on the other newer ones and does sampling as well?

[@tomcerrox6198]

a machine for life 🚀 never sell mine

[@OoraMusic]

NEVER!!

[@yorganyog]

Behringer, please, make a cheap version of What this man wish to have.

[@OoraMusic]

ahah fair enough

[@yorganyog]

@@OoraMusic I'm seeking a decent drum machine for live performance and my style, and they are all 800euros up. Elektron, Érica synth are cool, but not for mortals. TR's are cool for some styles or just jamming. Chemical brothers use Elektron, similar and old like this One in their live shows, and for some reason.

[@Matthewsavant]

It’s about as relevant as the 909

[@OoraMusic]

agreed

[@spurv]

"Very old"??? How about the cr-78? It must be pre-historic then. :-D

[@OoraMusic]

ahah well, you are right :)

[@ljs8888]

MCL let’s you do polyrhythms and probability :)

[@OoraMusic]

yep! need to try one

[@Claidheambmor]

The question of 'relevancy' of an instrument is pointless, and it is beneath us to regard the question let alone 'answer' it.

[@OoraMusic]

some day I feel like I have all the answers.

[@Bangiel]

Try new unoficial OS: Machinedrum OS X.05 (MDX).

[@OoraMusic]

did it!!

[@monomixer]

is there a catch?

[@Feldspar__]

The UW does cost so much money. I thought it was worth it.

[@OoraMusic]

yeah, super expensive

[@atarirob]

Yeah, stupid money imo. I've owned a UW+ MkII for ~2 years and I paid $1600 for it in mint condition. I can honestly say that it just isn't worth that kind of money. I highly recommend that people look into software like Max/MSP or Reaktor 6. With a bit of sound design know-how, you can design and build your own drum machines. The Analog Rytm is superior in many ways to the Machinedrum (much, much better sequencer, way easier to import samples and no contrived sample size/rate limitations) so you might want to pick up a Mk1. They float around the $700 mark and are worth every penny imo.

[@MarkAtherton-bf4pq]

You're only about ten years late to the party.

[@OoraMusic]

never too late