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@ComicKairi3 жыл бұрын
I found you through your written review, but now i'm watching your video as well!!! Thank you so much this review and comparison :)
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
@@ComicKairi That's awesome. I've been trying to grow my website so much, so I'm glad it's getting discovered now. Hoping the comparison was helpful!
@Lizzkitt3h3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mnovaes2 жыл бұрын
Can't thank you enough for the written versions of in-depth articles! Rare these days.
@hoemey Жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks for your review. Shall give the ring light a try and if that fails, 2 x Key Light Air.
@flamingcheet0z3 жыл бұрын
This was honestly one of the most straight forward and helpful reviews I've seen. Thank you!
@deflectoronline61303 жыл бұрын
I have a key light that I bounce of the wall at 100% during online streaming. It adds even lighting without hurting my eyes.
@MichaelW.19803 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison! I spotted a something to improve on your comparisons. The Key Lights output 2700 lm at maximum, while the Key Light Air output 1400 lm at maximum. The ring light outputs 2500 lm at maximum. Both, the Key Light and Key Light air will represent a brighter light source than the Ring Light. Which I expect to be slightly bigger in light producing area than the Key Light. So yea, using one key light isn’t sensible. And like you said: The Key Light and Key Light Air are not meant to be used head on. This would make you look flat, missing smooth shadows. The Light is coming at an angle naturally, using the Ring Light somewhat close. But for a green screen you need at least two lights but professional setups have more like 4 to 5 lights. (And the green screen much farther away, I might add)
@ckickstart53773 жыл бұрын
I was considering rocking the two key light air setup before watching this but I’m now sold on the ring light. Cheaper option AND I needed the desk clamp option since I don’t have much desk space. The only thing holding me back from the key light air was the complaints about connectivity issues and the physical buttons on the ring light was the selling point for me. Going to try it out🙌🏼
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the buttons help out so much.
@brucet533 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the effort into making these videos - keep going
@ultramarsx Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! I’ve been on the fence but knowing that I’d only need one ring light for even lighting + it’ll be more gentle on my eyes I’ll likely go with that :D
@fjordstrom3 жыл бұрын
Awesome you also added a green screen test!! Thanks!
@LeSweetpea3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thank you!
@NovaDoll3 жыл бұрын
Hello friend!! XD
@LeSweetpea3 жыл бұрын
@@NovaDoll Hiii!! ❤️
@NovaDoll3 жыл бұрын
The key light is the only one elgato had when I got mine I think 2 years ago. For 149 on Black Friday. I agree it hurts your eyes after a long time. But I stream in a dark room and love the brightness. Thinking about getting a key light air to add.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Super late reply, but yes being able to angle two lights more comfortably (and slightly dim the Key Light a bit) is a game changer.
@xshowtime_3 жыл бұрын
Very very nice video dude! Greetings from Germany!
@Radhaugo1083 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. FYI, audio is just as important for KZbin. I would consider sound treatment and a USB mic at the very least.
@vintijtv94333 жыл бұрын
Great video, man. Exactly what I needed. Though I knew the verdict before the end just by seeing that ring light reflected in your glasses more often than the other two. lol
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Yep I couldn't hide it! Thanks for watching.
@Xcomleague3 жыл бұрын
Hey, pal. Your reviews one of the best in internet! Really. You told about items very detailed and understandable! THANK YOU SO MUCH! Just keep going and I wish one million subscribers to you!
@sunnyschramm96503 жыл бұрын
DUDE, that was the best video to lights for streaming out there!
@michaelbrandow47823 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the thoughtful layout of this video. no bs just straight to the point! Really appreciate the thoughtful reviews!
@davieslm3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Just what I needed. I think the Airs are the best looking with a pair of desk clamp mounts but then thats an extra 89EUR delivered with coupon. After seeing your video I may also try the ring light.
@pumpskinfolk75723 жыл бұрын
5:22 The 2 key light airs were looking great with the green screen
@saundobeaumont3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review matey, you've demonstrated how practical each light is in such an easy way. Im subscribing! look forward to more of your reviews.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@connorkristiansen23393 жыл бұрын
Your an underrated KZbinr I learned a lot from this video
@SpiffyPenguin2 жыл бұрын
Suuuuper helpful, you helped me make the jump! I've had the elgato keylight original for years but I think I'll switch to the ring light! I've always liked the soft halo effect of ringlights and I DEFINITELY complain about the keylight's aggressive brightness in my eyes every stream.
@therealaboutentrepreneurship Жыл бұрын
Just purchased hoping it’s easy set up and give the look I desire
@Jamibi3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video. insanely well presented and i got the information i needed! Thanks!
@derballing97713 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Bought the Ring light and my friend told me its crap, but with your Video i know i did the Right decision!
@Quizzimo3 жыл бұрын
An actual good review that answered just the right questions!
@RafaFerrer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all effort showing the difference
@shenlongrock3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This really helped me decide on what I needed.
@TheRealClaylex2 жыл бұрын
This looks good! Just today been meaning to find some good lighting/ key lights for my green screen to help with my streams!
@peterwoodward38122 жыл бұрын
A great simple, to the point comparative review - cheers bud!
@elevenforty4833 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison - appreciate the effort and help
@Halilibrahimduman2 жыл бұрын
is a very fine video bro thank you, like !
@2nywa22 жыл бұрын
Love your presentation style and visual comparisons!
@BMathiesen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video brotha! As a tech geek it becomes hard to decide which is best even if I have my own idea what will work for me. Shouldn't be but I'm totally watching this video on my way to pick up some upgrades, one of which is a elgsto light and I wanted the ring light but didn't know. So thank you for this video!
@MrHaXx3 жыл бұрын
I just started with KZbin, and your review on the lights worked very well for me. Thanks!
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Nice, glad it helped out!
@melody84683 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the exact kind of comparison video I needed! Thank you
@BrownEyedGirl143 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such thorough demonstrations! I want to buy an elgato light but I wasn't sure if I should go for ring light or key light. I can only afford one so I guess I'm getting a ring light!
@BrunoConfortin2 жыл бұрын
Those comparisons are awesome. Thank you for making your videos like that. Great job :D
@borinbardungson3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, i looked a lot around for a good video that helps me decide now i knew im fine with one key light air and maybe later a second. Great Video!
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Nice, that's the cool thing about that light. You can always add another in the future and control them both with the same app.
@LukeBeardmore3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review, you convinced me to get the ring light. Thanks
@dcdiaz11862 жыл бұрын
Kay light and reflector did the trick for me.
@NIXNE Жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me decide
@NeedForRc3 жыл бұрын
Finally a real review great and thanks a lot
@MrJCellini3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding comparison. This is the video I needed. Thank you!
@donnellynell2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video
@scottkennedy45542 жыл бұрын
You killed it! This was a great review
@JumpingJack63 жыл бұрын
Nice job, thanks for the compare....
@zeakzeric3 жыл бұрын
Suuupernice! Especially the fact of stressing the eyes, I love this Video 😘
@sylcooper903 жыл бұрын
Great video! Exactly what I was looking for!
@andytheproff61913 жыл бұрын
Super informative thanks for the awesome video!! Ive been wanting to get a ring light
@viniciusafpessoa3 жыл бұрын
Great content... Congrats and greetings from Brazil!
@bradcrawford56132 жыл бұрын
That was a wonderfully well done and helpful review - thanks!
@fetzoe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work, it helps me very well. Greetings from good ol' germany :-)
@SpirituFit3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you very much!!
@aren87983 жыл бұрын
I really needed this video! Thank you!
@AlexRobbMentalHealth3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this! Thanks bro, hope you’ve had a great holiday 🎉
@jeverbever3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful video!
@SmashCentralOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Great reviews dude! Thanks for making these :)
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! amazing job so much helpful.
@KnitsinMotion3 жыл бұрын
Very informative side by side comparison. Thank you! Also are you a Tekken player? I notice the Kawaiifacemiles and Esports arena t's.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and yep. I love Tekken! I also play Samurai Shodown and Pokkén, so I'm really looking forward to when offline events are back in full swing.
@sabrinaduric3 жыл бұрын
Best comparison video out there! Thank you ♥️
@BaoZakeruga2 жыл бұрын
very in-depth and helpful
@truthgun26743 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The side by side examples were exactly what I needed to see and VERY helpful. ✨
@techbysoup3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks! ✌
@fishonstiltsproductions76933 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the ring light today and after about 5 minutes of use at close to lowest setting I got a splitting headache that made me feel sick lol
@jasonjohnson54423 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Excellent presentation!!
@paulmaher1705 Жыл бұрын
thanks, very useful...
@Cal97g3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@YBNegative4 ай бұрын
i appreciate this video! I love all things Elgato. The one comment I have is that , like you, I wear glasses and the reflection from the ring light is hella distracting! Any solutions you (or anyone else that sees this) know of?
@davieslm3 жыл бұрын
These Elgato lights apart from the ring light (due to the manual controls) are a bit of a dealbreaker in an enterprise environment. The reason is because they all show up on the same network and Jimmy could control Bobby's lights for example. The ring light is massive and they should have made it so you could adjust it to a lower height as it is way too tall especially with the ball mount fitted. I think it just needs a different desk stand. Apart from that it gives off a ton of light and is easy on the eyes. I also have a pair key light airs next week and I have the desk clamp stands for them ready to go. EDIT: The Elgato solid arm with the ring light may resolve my problem as it can clamp to the top of my monitor arm. I have a cheap fixed offset floating design monitor arm for my Ultrawide and I think this will look decent and not ruin the asthetics with another pole clamped to the centre of the desk.
@enes.ozdemir3 жыл бұрын
Ohh thanks :)
@scottjones79883 жыл бұрын
Bro, I had that desk 18 years ago. Can't believe they are still being made XD
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
tbh they're probably not. I got it about 18 years ago, joke's on me!
FYI: A key light shouldn't be used on its own pointed at a subject. You should use a ring light in that scenario that avoids the harsh shadows, or if you're going to use a key light, at least bounce it off a wall, or the roof to create a better effect. If you can only afford one light get a ring light. Caveat emptor, you get what you pay for, a cheap ring light will still look cheap.
@zoobydo84413 жыл бұрын
dope review!
@ETMoments3 жыл бұрын
TY for this review! Was looking through trying to see if you said which camera you are using for this.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
No problem, and it's the Logitech Brio.
@ETMoments3 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews oh i see! Thx. Been watching yours and others reviews for a few cameras as well. Def leanin toward the Brio.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
@@ETMoments I think the Brio is a great choice. Definitely the best webcam out right now. To get better quality than it, you really would have to shell out for a DSLR so it's a good value.
@memoriesneverdieband3 жыл бұрын
OMG I’m your 666th Subscriber and it’s Halloween oh shit!!! Nice video keep it going thank you so much 😊
@BarryJohnson3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@nickkay31002 жыл бұрын
I wish they key light airs came with a clamp.
@TheSpaceInBetween3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. It was really helpful!
@DusselYorkCityStudios3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically one could buy the base for the normal Elgato Light right as well? I like the base option but I have a big desk and it is running out space so the claps seem like the best way to go... but having the option to switch to a base is pleasing....
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can get the heavy base separately for the Elgato Key Light or Ring Light. The only problem is that thing always goes out of stock.
@carstenmichels3 жыл бұрын
For spectacle wearer what would you suggest? the ring light for the Cam or two key lights air?!
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Even with glasses, I still use the Ring Light. If you are going to put a camera directly in the ring, it's not going to work well though. I raise the light higher to avoid the harsh glare and mount the camera to something else.
@teodoraskrobonja22983 жыл бұрын
Ok so the ring light seems to be the best option for me too. But is it enough for a professional stream? Apart from daylight, is there any additional light source that would make it even better? Is it even more powerful to use the ring light in a combination with key light air or key light?
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
In the day time, I think the Ring Light is all that's needed, but at night time you can brighten up the whole shot by adding a Key Light as well. I made a quick video showing a few different examples so hopefully it helps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqG0YYx5otRmiaM
@mensajesdeamorypaz1 Жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the video, how do you get all three lights at the same time in control center? I haven’t been able to do that. Thanks.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Жыл бұрын
You have to make sure they're all connected to the same wifi network. If one isn't showing up, you might need to reset the device and reconnect it since Control Center is pretty buggy. Personally, I use my computer with a wired Ethernet cable, create a hotspot, and connect all 3 lights and my phone to my computer's hotspot like that. I've found the most success doing that.
@mensajesdeamorypaz1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your quick response. I want to use my 5ghz network so the ring is on that on but the key light is on 2.4. I thought that once on the network that wouldn’t matter but they don’t show at the same time 🥴
@Brisky862 жыл бұрын
I will probably get two Elgato Keylight Airs as I have a sit stand desk where the monitor is going to need to be moved up and down depending on the position and I do not think that having to move a ring light and camera every time is ideal. Though I could just put the ring light behind the monitor and mount the webcam to the monitor instead of the ring light. I am not sure...
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews2 жыл бұрын
The way I do it is the webcam is on my monitor and the ring light is extended a bit to go above it. I find that to be the most convenient, but my desk is stationary.
@DusselYorkCityStudios3 жыл бұрын
Oh another question. My PC tower is not equipped with wifi or Blue Tooth... can one plug it into the computer using USB? If not can one use an Android device to operate them?
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
First question, no you can't use USB or any wired connection. Second question is yes, you can use an Android to control them, BUT only if you can connect that device to a wifi network. If you're using your carrier's 4G (or whatever speed) or even if you turn your phone into a hotspot, these won't connect. But yes, they can be controlled with a phone already connected to wifi.
@SWIMGEAR_BR2 жыл бұрын
Bro, do you tested Viltrox 200T our GODOX Lights?
@MartesMakeup3 жыл бұрын
Would it be overkill to have one key light on each side of the camera? I don't have light in the ceiling and it gets super dark all day during winter (I film makeup content)! I am wondering if I should get two of the key lights or two of the key light airs. The key lights are up to 50% off during Black Friday, so price will probably be the same. Also, thanks for a great review. One of the best reviews I've seen on these lights!
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid. If you can get them around the same price, I'd go with two Key Lights. They won't be overkill since you can adjust the brightness quite low and it will still be easy on your eyes. Another benefit is the Key Light has a bigger panel so it can brighten up your background a bit since you don't have a ceiling light. Best to you and your channel!
@MartesMakeup3 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks for such a quick reply! That's kinda what I was hoping, that the key lights will lighten up the background! Thanks so much for the help, and again - awesome video!
@rbutnotkelly3 жыл бұрын
wait the key lights are up to 50% this year? do you have a link? I was literally just about to go to the store to pick up two tomorrow!
@MartesMakeup3 жыл бұрын
@@rbutnotkelly i live in Norway, they were 50% discounted last year, so I'm hoping they'll be this year too!
@larryt10043 жыл бұрын
Great Review, Hi I know this is been awhile since you have done this review. But I'm debating whether I go with 2 key light air or 1 key light air and 1 original key light. Do you have any suggestions or at the end of the day I'm overthinking this?
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
For the most common use case (at a desk), I'd say just two Key Light Airs is enough. A couple instances where you might want one Key Light and one Key Light Air is -You want to brighten up more of your background at night. The larger panel helps with this, but I still think it's better to use a separate, cheaper light for the background if you need that. -You want to bounce light off a white wall. The Key Light again with a bigger panel and more lumens is way better for bouncing light. But with two KLA, you can position them to avoid glare/eye strain anyway. tl;dr two Key Light Airs is my suggestion.
@larryt10043 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews cool. One curve ball. I know you have two key light air and 1 original but if you only want to purchase one time and ensure you only make one purchase would you go a key light air and original because it gives you the "what if" if you want to scenario. I'm afraid that going with two key light air I would kick myself if I ever wanted to do more but is limited because I didn't go with 1 original key light. Kinda like mixing it up because at the end of the day a key light original can be used as a key light air plus the price tag :)
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
@@larryt1004 For one purchase I'd still get two Key Light Airs. I originally got my KL and KLAs in March 2020 and I've tried mixing it up a lot and I just haven't had a need for the Key Light so tbh it mostly gathers dust. For some more examples, you can check out this demo from Elgato. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGamYYKKe7iifKM. Since he works for the company of course you have to take the opinions with a grain of salt, but it mostly lines up with my experience.
@babiking48963 жыл бұрын
Hey, does the ring light actually go easy on the eyes? If yes, how much better is it? Cos i have been struggling on using the keylight air straight on and ended up bouncing it at the front wall which result in quite a dark lighting for my cam. Pls advice on this, thank you :)
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
I can't quantify it, but I use the Ring Light with the bottom just over eye level and I'm able to do 2-3 hour streams without strain. Looking directly into it, probably not though. Speaking of bounced light, I tested bouncing the Key Light and Ring Light off of a wall in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e57XeIxurM2YgM0. Next time you use the Key Light Air, I'd use it off to the side just to see how it does for your eyes. If it works out, you can get a second one for the other side and save some money.
@crazyplantgirldk387 Жыл бұрын
So I have a question: is it posdible to connection ones Iphone to the Delgato Ringlight or is it only for camera use? Thanks in advance
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Жыл бұрын
Connect like mounting it onto the ring light? Yes, you can but you have to buy the phone grip separately.
@schizonic11352 жыл бұрын
do you know what's the maximum duration of usage is allowed for elgato key light air?
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if there's a built-in limit. I've left it on for 8+ hours before. I haven't had any of my Elgato lights turn off automatically.
@josephtewksbury65463 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Key Lights but I am having issues getting my Elgato green screen in a pitch black room (Preferred). I got them because I use stream decks that can control the lights. But I am getting fuzzy inconsistent green screen background so I am thinking of getting a Elgato Ring Light and using the 2 Key Lights as angle lights. The only issue is that I want it to be possible to have a guest. So I am worried will a ring light be odd. Also I use a Hero 5 Black and I am thinking of getting a second and a second Elgato Camlink to use for the guest instead of running duplicate video screens cropping different areas (People) out of each video opened and readjusting position. I hope this made sense... I basically want the lighting to be good and professional compared to the not bright enough issue I am having currently. Is there a distance suggestion and maybe a color setting suggestion etc.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
What kind of green screen are you using? Based on the experience with the one I have (Elgato Green Screen MT), I think you should have more than enough light even in pitch black. Two Key Lights is brighter than my setup. I'll make an unlisted video tonight if I can showing my chroma key settings in OBS and the way I position the lights.
@josephtewksbury65463 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I have 2 of the floor version Green Screens from Elgato. I was an original customer for them before all these options so I am like WTH is all this cool stuff now lol. I wish the wall one was out when I got mine because these are bulky and are tripping hazards I might just buy a wall one too lol. I look forward to the video. Thanks
@josephtewksbury65463 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I forgot to mention I am using Xsplit but the setting should be comparable to OBS.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Ok I made a video showing my settings. It was a bit long cause impromptu/no script but skip to 3:02 for my final chroma key settings. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJXKnp2wp5iGsJo. I don't have experience with GoPros, so I just showed my webcam settings at the beginning. I think if you do end up getting another light, it should be one behind the subjects that's aimed directly at the green screen to eliminate any extra shadows. Hopefully it helps a bit.
@josephtewksbury65463 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Appreciate you
@MartinBuechi3 жыл бұрын
Is the Elgato Ring Light strong enough to bounce the light off a white wall (my desk is in a corner, so it will come off two sides) just behind so that I get strong enough light without the ring reflection on my glasses and without the strain on the eyes? I am looking at the Ring Light because the Key Light and Key Light Air are sold out everywhere.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
Great question, I actually tested this, and I'll upload an unlisted reply tonight so you can see an example (need to get both day and night examples). But in my experience, it's mildly effective in the day time, but just not quite bright enough at night. I'll show some examples in my next reply though.
@MartinBuechi3 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks. Looking forward to the video. The other question then is whether the Elgato Key Light would be a better choice for indirect lighting (2800 lm instead of 2500 lm or does the type / diffusion of the light make the difference)? I really think that in a corner with white walls, indirect light could works very well for someone with glasses (reflection, strain on eyes). I like the idea of the physical buttons on the ring light and if I read the specification correctly, the Ring Light also has the advantage of a lower mount - but I might have to work with the Multi Mount Flex Arm Kit anyhow to bring the light away from the wall.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
@@MartinBuechi Got some footage. Might take a few minutes to process to at least HD. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e57XeIxurM2YgM0 Took extra time since I decided to get daylight and night time footage of both the Key Light and Ring Light to compare. I think both the lumens and size/shape of the panel of the Key Light make it way better for bouncing. The Ring Light mount is shorter than the Key Light at max height, but at min height, accounting for the Ring's shape they're about the same height effectively. Overall I'd say if you want to bounce, use the Key Light. What's helped me (I still use the Ring Light daily) is to raise the Ring Light a bit higher.
@MartinBuechi3 жыл бұрын
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks. Much appreciated. The Key Light looks like the clear winner. Indirect light just seems to be so much easier on the eyes and easier to avoid reflection on my glasses.
@BadIntentStreamTechReviews3 жыл бұрын
@@MartinBuechi Right on, glad to help out. Yeah the Key Light performed way better reflecting light.
@DavidJSherwin2 жыл бұрын
Subbing
@Alisa-qh1nx3 жыл бұрын
Do you want to test dual ring light? Contact me!
@NewYears19782 жыл бұрын
Are we supposed to be able to hear you talking during all those little clips?