Elite Dangerous | Alliance Chieftain | Combat Build

[@mikehawk5492]

The problem with double shot for a pve ship, is that you burn through your ammo twice as fast so you can only stay in res half as long as with overcharged, and your overall damage output is halved.

[@Powerhauz]

Yes for all other applications of course OC is better....however, Hulltanks suck in this game. So my "staying power" in a HAZres is only as good as my armour OR my space shotguns quickness to kill. Therefore, on a hulltank vessel, it is better to kill fast and book it rather than clear the res and jump. Also for the BGS application, smaller deposits of bounties or bonds is better than a large deposit depending on system size and +INF you want to gain. I run my FAS shieldless and do the usual ram and pin tactic with DS/SS frags and an APA. I really want a chieftan now though. I love my Fed Torp but something about that chieftan is just awesome.

[@jakedanger99]

All frag cannons?? You're a mad lad 🔥

[@ZellexTibissius]

I am so glad to see that you are still posting content for this game, I played this game heavily a few years back on Xbox with a group of friends but sadly fell off as life began to get in the way. Lately I have returned and have started fresh on PC. Recently I just unlocked my Federal Corvette and was able to purchase this glorious ship. I still need to work on engineering sadly, but I am wanting to fully outfit the Vette before I move onto that lengthy grind. Anyways, What I was wanting to really say is that I am glad that there is still active members of the community as I rarely see any new content posted, and even flying in open I will rarely see a player in any of the systems that I fly though, though that may be because I am not at somewhere like Shinrarta Dezhra. Regardless, keep up the great content and amazing builds!

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

Thank you so much for the kind words! YES, the elite dangerous community is alive and is there with open arms. Glad to see you on the channel and I hope you enjoy future content!

[@ZellexTibissius]

@@thetryhardgamer8387 Any time! And Remember, Fly Dangerous Commander!

[@chivayos]

Hey, finally no shield packs anymore, kudos. :) Again there would be things that I personally would change, such as going for a 6c biweave (same mods as yours) and a 5 hull pack instead of 5ing both and 'wasting' a 6 slot (you did it for the better recharge, I know) The big thing though is fiddling with the armor config a lot more because this works differently then one might think at first. - I can really only point you to coriolis and setting up your build there so you can see what I mean by this: Go ahead and switch out the thermal res on the bulkhead for heavy duty and setting one of the class 2 armor packs from heavy duty to thermal res. And actually do use deep plating on every pack and the bulkhead. What this will do is it will first increase your base hull strength and by this also the absolute strengths (not percentages) of your resistances, while then making thermal your best defense. This way if you put armor into every optional internal except for 1 c4, 1c2 and 1c 1 and try the above you'll reach 4.2k integrity, 7.1 explosion 7.3 Kinetic and 7.7 thermal resistances on armor alone. which should be more than you have now (when using the same opt slots I described above). This is because how absolute strength and resistances are relating to each other. At first deep plating may sound counter intuitive, but it isn't. Took me a looong time of fiddling on coriolis but the numbers don't lie. Powerplant id go for armored and double braced or possibly thermal spread, because it can even power a PA and rail build while adding integrity and cooling. Overcharge is a gamble on a hulltank imo, but it depends on what you're facing. Instead of 3 chaff I would go for 2,youll be able to chaff constantly plus it will help yOu run 2 resistance maxed boosters (run resistance, not a specific counter, same logic as above) with thermal and kinetic experimentals. Like that your bi weave will hold a little longer without increasing downtime too much. which in the long run I've felt is the better overall option. My 2 cents.

[@hookecho9609]

Good advice sir. I would add some module reinforcements as well, as the chieftain has exposed engines and a weak canopy.

[@chivayos]

@@hookecho9609 correct, that's what I intended the c4 and c2 slots for. :) though for convenience I sometimes also swap another c4 out to add a scoop

[@Powerhauz]

oh damn those numbers take a nice jump in coriolis. Granted I'm building on the FAS I have vs the Chieftan I don't lol.

[@Ghost10251]

How long does it take you destroy elite ranked ships?

[@lilcyolo]

Great video. Hope you hit 1k

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

Thanks! I hit 1k a few days ago.

[@lakerfan6100]

This new update gliched out the frag cannons for the large HP. I can't use all frag cannons on mine

[@dogfacedgod]

That's pretty sick.

[@bikemessenger7]

that looked fun. have you considered putting a build link into your video description?

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

I have thought about that. I think what i'm going to do is compile all of my builds into those websites and just link all of the builds into one video.

[@BackToTheMud]

I assume you want it’s so you can show people how not to outfit a chieftain.

[@bikemessenger7]

@@BackToTheMud ha! well usually when I see these kinds of videos I can click on a Coriolis build or something. once I get a look at the build I have a better idea of what the person is going for. Unless I can check that out I normally dont watch the entire video because I cant "see" it all in my head just by watching.

[@BackToTheMud]

@@bikemessenger7 With the exception of the weapons, as those really come down to personal preference, and the core internals, it’s a really bad build. It works here because he’s up against low level and, most likely, not engineered NPCs. If he take that thing into a conflict zone he would not do so well. It’s great that he’s having fun with the build he’s made, and the Chieftain is a truly amazing ship, but right now he clearly has no idea how to outfit and engineer a ship.

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

@@BackToTheMud Actually I've tested this in conflict zones as well as haz res. It does great. I'd like to know, what exactly is it that i've done wrong here? Alot of you on youtube like to shit on my builds without any constructive criticism, so the floor is yours.

[@thurgrum]

Great video good information.

[@nfapeng187]

Im new and i just got this ship, i was upgrading and it kept saying exceeding MASS. I dont understand how ? I was just upgrading the crap thrusters, power, and so on to what i can get at "A"

[@styanax]

I think the thrusters affect how much mass your ship can take so if they are at A then that might be a problem with what you’ve put on it

[@Pyrochazm]

One or more of your modules are underrated for the build you're attempting. Even at an "A" rating, if the module is undersized for it's slot it may not be able to keep up. The most engineered 1A FSD in the galaxy isn't going to work in a Corvette.

[@baconoverlord7982]

I'm confused... why would you want to be melting your own ship 100% of the time?

[@jasperlit1345]

Hey great build, hey im guessing you dont have a 6c bi-weave or you could switch the shield spot and grade 5 hull reinforcement, then you can run a 6c bi-weave shield instead of 5...

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

Thanks for the suggestion. The reason I went 5c instead of 6 was to keep the shield strength low for faster recharge. The lower the shield strength, the faster it recharges.

[@mikehawk5492]

@@thetryhardgamer8387 No the size 6c charges faster because it can draw more power from distributor, the broken regen rate of a 5c bi-weave is 5.6, the broken regen of a 6c bi-weave is 9.2

[@jasperlit1345]

@@mikehawk5492 thats what I thought also because the regen (not broken) of 5c is 2.2 and the 6c is 3.2. -the broken regen for 6c is 8 on my non engineered 6c bi-weave, you might be looking at an engineered one?

[@mikehawk5492]

@@jasperlit1345 yes i was looking at my engineered one, the 6c goes from 8 to 9.2 with the fast charge experimental applied.

[@antwan1357]

I'm running a squadron called 160 SOAR recruiting new players doing massacre missions PVE using only the Alliance Chieftain without engineering what would you recommend we build?

[@ryansta]

Graves..... Nah, usually i'd advise you try beam or pulse lasers and multicannons for starters when unengineered. If turreted remember to untarget when the enemy chaffs to get direct fire.

[@chivayos]

Is there a g5 frag engineer in the bubble? The only one I know is like 22k ly away so i shrugged modding off till now

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

All kinetic armaments can be 5G’d in the bubble afaik.

[@Pyrochazm]

Zach Nemo. He is in yoru. Get to 100% allied with "the party of Yoru" in the Yoru system, they will send you an invite. It's a lot like unlocking Quent in Sirius. You can do the requirements at any system where the party of Yoru is around, but you can only get the invite from one of the stations in yoru itself. Small/medium ships only.

[@danmcneil4435]

Hey dude off topic question my friend and both play elite I have 1000 + hours in roughly 1b credits hes up to 5 b were looking for a squadron of active players to join. We created our own but building a squad seems a bit tougher in elite these days your squad recruiting by chance? In game Tag # TALONZFIGHTER

[@thetryhardgamer8387]

Actually I don't have a squadron anymore. I'm looking for one myself!

[@gort5583]

Don't play anymore after the release that will not be named (Odyssey). Do still enjoy seeing others play and enjoy a game I used to love. I have noticed many builds of late using all frag! Something been over powered due to a patch or bug or just coincidence?

[@franc8023]

this is still meta build?

[@thegozarian4683]

Flight assist off when?

[@hookecho9609]

Flight assist off when the opponent uses flight assist off. The most important thing when using the frag chieftain is maintaining proximity to the opponent. This is best done by matching their momentum. Also, using the cargo scoop during boost to slow your forward speed while keeping good acceleration in your lateral thrusters will help keep you behind NPCs.

[@Ghost10251]

I bet you can't destroy anything above NPC rank expert in less than 9 seconds. Show me it destroying an elite anaconda in this way and you've got me convinced to go to frags. Otherwise pffft...

[@cardiotherapy4888]

Yes, you can. I destroyed many elite npcs in my frag FAS. The issue is not the elite pirates but the ships in combat war zones. they have crazy resistances and are mainly small ships that are too fast and fly in hectic patterns. Combat zones were the reason I damped the frags.

[@micahjones7837]

@@cardiotherapy4888seconded. I also run full double shot frags and I can delete most ships in a hazrez but I stay out of CZs for that exact reason. Once I went toe to toe with an FDL till I ran out of ammo, and never popped his shield. Nuts

[@Powerhauz]

You can CZ easily with DS frags. I have an engineered FAS that I run shieldless with 3 frags and an APA. Less dps than shown here. Attack plan is to find the biggest/most dangerous ship, ram it, dump everything, reload w/screening shell, dps dump again, ???, and profit. Rinse and repeat until CZ cleared.