Elite: Dangerous - Horizons - Starting From Scratch

[@TheS0m3B0dy]

"Get yourself blown up because it's free!" - Scott Manley 2015

[@chrisv4496]

Solo Play isn't actually off-line; it's on-line, but without any other human players. So the universe state is still the same, and what you do has an effect on the open play universe.

[@scottmanley]

+Chris V Which is exactly what I said.

[@mdamon06]

+Chris V which is horrible, gaming ruining and defeats the purpose of half the mechanics of the game. Because powerplay makes ZERO sense to be affecting the public universe when youre doing shit in SOLO. This might as well be a giant single player game that just feeds off a database to change your trade info and power play stats periodically.

[@chrisv4496]

+Scott Manley It's not, though.@1:29 you clearly say "Solo mode is off-line."

[@scottmanley]

+Giant|2obot I've always thought that Solo play should create NPC's that are based on real players.

[@chrisv4496]

Giant|2obot I actually kind of like the way solo mode works; sometimes I want to play the game and do the stuff I want to do without worrying about a PC griefer. And you're honestly going to complain about a solo game that continuously changes and evolves? Gamer desires have changed since I was young.

[@4tech69]

Scott, if you zoom in on the planets in System View and it switches to Planetary View so you can see the outpost[s] on a planet. Useful for finding which to land at for missions if you don't know like was the case here.

[@kendokaaa]

+4tech69 I'm going to guess he already knows, as I learned that from his earlier videos

[@pacisle3232]

What a sick game. This is the space sim I've been waiting for since my teenage years.

[@BM-Despair]

Obviously you guys aren't really early too often.. When videos get uploaded, they need time to be encoded by KZbin. The quality of the video will go up in due time.

[@boxinthefield]

+Ken Kaneki common sense really isn't that common

[@PHeMoX]

+Ken Kaneki I think by now people should know those 360p complainers are mostly just trolling... xD

[@TheStormy1997]

This game is pretty fun and Horizons will definitely bring about some good new content... but I have one huge problem with it that prevents me from really getting into it: it's so damn empty. Every system is exactly the same; there are just a bunch of barren planets and (seemingly) deserted space stations floating around. I want to see people! I want busting hub stations and cities filled with people coming and going! Of course I still want the vast expanses and quiet systems, but considering the sheer number of systems in the game it would be literally no problem to have a few systems that have been handcrafted by the developers, and those that want can literally never go there if they so choose. I just want the world to feel alive, and I can't think of a better way to do that than add some actual centers of civilization, rather than several million small outposts scattered around. What do you guys think?

[@Elrarion2]

+The Storm They need a heat map (Num of players X avg time spent) so that it draws players together and they also need to have it so certain systems actual draw people in for example maybe ships are on sale in that specific system and maybe some systems like Faction capital ones have a bulletin board that gives you higher payed missions that span more then just 1 jump away from the system your already in.

[@AthAthanasius]

+The Storm Did you try going to every Community Goal system, and appropriate places in those systems? They do tend to draw players together. That and I know both helpful and not so helpful people hang around the common starter systems to help or hassle newbies.

[@TeamEnderman1337]

+The Storm Don't get me wrong, I love the game as it is, but I do tend to agree with you on this. You'd think that any of only three stations in any given system would be quite possibly the busiest place imaginable. People streaming in and out of the letterbox like there's no tomorrow, and all that. Not necessarily actual players either, but the extra traffic would add to the atmosphere. I'd also like to see (or more appropriately, hear) some voice comms between the station and the ships, like an air traffic controller at an airport, except in space! The text chat is just not immersive in that respect. It would be extremely nice if there was the ability to be a controller and get paid in credits for your work, directing traffic and stuff. Fines would be issued if two ships crashed due to your negligence, etc. They would, of course, be mostly NPCs and the occasional commander who wants to follow instructions, but that wouldn't happen to often. It would be something to do other than flying a ship around. Maybe when we can walk about on stations it will be a reality! We can only hope!

[@peterstark5775]

seems like you need to w8 for not an expension but rather Star cityzen.... as that comes out this will be more empty and boring than it is right now

[@FancyaBevMate]

+Peter Stark I have alpha backed both star citizen and elite dangerous, SC to a much higher amount of money ;) but I'm playing both titles as whilst SC will be a lot higher definition it will also require a lot better pc so the amount of players playing both titles will be equal

[@curon-]

Scott Manley your videos have motivated and guided me towards getting into space games again :) I haven't played space games since the old Frontier Elite games from the 1990's. I am humbly grateful for that, and as of now you have another subscriber :) Keep up these great videos, you are amazing at what you do!

[@Hostilenemy]

Scott, I'm 10/10 disappoint. You didn't do a barrel roll.

[@DullaghanCormac]

Great video! Thanks Scott Manley! I actually spent ages (nearly an hour!) trying to fly around the starter planet so I could jump! Now I know to target somewhere else and realign after!Also I really felt your pain when you blew up at the end! I've quickly learnt that Strong Signals means Death to Me should I stop!! :P

[@UebelBAM]

Coming from someone who was disappointed with No Man's Sky, this game looks really really cool. I will watch several of your videos, but right now i'm interested and probably will try it myself in the near future :) Thanks for making a starter video!

[@Psychopsam]

Lol - love the Han Solo reference "That would end your trip real quick...right kid?"

[@iggy1297]

Xbox controller user here (for now), can confirm it works great. Left stick is pitch and roll, right stick is lateral and vertical thrusters, d-pad is power distribution. It's a fantastic setup.

[@kanaric]

+VeyKen I use a ps4 controller, joystick is a waste of money for this.

[@iggy1297]

It's only a waste of money if you feel like it is. I'd rather have a joystick than a pad, so I'm getting one.

[@Halo1138]

The beta was a good experience and it can only get better from here. I've already spent a lot of time just driving around on interesting planets. Sometimes it gives me good motivation to go to those far out planets. I'm really happy with Frontier's development and keeping us in the loop with new developments.

[@ErikPukinskis]

Wonderful video! Just the right pacing and level of explanation and such. Thanks for walking us through that.

[@nathancocksedge6569]

Just wanted to say what a great video this was, not boring at all and damn informative. I'm what you would a 'noob' at 38 years old, I can believe it.... If you haven't already done a video on this - an explanation on how you key mapped the X52 would be great as would a general PC setup video would also be spectacular. Keep up the good work.

[@LouisThau]

On your steam remark at 14:20. Horizon is vailable on Steam, but as a stand-alone game, separated from the previous version of Elite Dangerous, instead of something like a DLC. Frontier surprised us by releasing it the same day on steam as they did themselves. Also that goes your way by saying that basically Horizon is the new season, new game of the new year.

[@anderkickers5]

Watching in 2017, an elite dangerous horizons ad plays b4 video

[@henrymonroy9533]

I was debating whether to purchase Elite Dangerous: Horizons. I have never played Elite Dangerous , but love space games. This video convinced me. TY! Will definitely purchase it now.

[@AxelRock]

Really good to see this "getting started" video! I learned a good amount of stuff.

[@majorbrighton]

Thanks Scott, was a relief to see what is possible from the word go. Yet although I start today at the same point or station, your missions were not available! Pity you have so many negative comments about the game being dry and just a Sim at best. Well you and I know that is exactly what we wanted when we bought the game, a real as possible experience, so you actually feel you achieved something after flying so far. Or that the very hard earned cash you put into a ship is something you can loose in a fight, or that its simply refreshing when a game forces you to use your imagination more. Then their is the 600 000 billion stars to consider, having enough missions to do is a matter of perspective, I for one want to feel that there will always be more stars to see and explore. Thanks for the well done walk through and start, I think the feeling of driving on a planet that I had landed on in VR is the best gaming experience I have yet had! Yet thats VR for you, your there!

[@LowFlyer]

Stephen Nicholas not the same missions are avaliable all the time,even on same stations since every single player and npc has an effect on the universe of elite,changing the supply and demand of stations by trading,fighting etc.

[@majorbrighton]

Oh I see, thanks for the info. Am playing Solo now and have only a fetch black box mission that I can do, after visiting three stations. So as soon as I collect the box and grab it, Im killed instantly every time. Like it really feels scripted and you just cant avoid it. Wish there were more missions for a ship with just two holds though.

[@kajesann]

Pretty much sealed the deal for me in buying this for monday. :) Love the visuals and especially the space aspect of this game.

[@MrTuhascvbouwq]

Hey Scott i have been subbed for a long time and never said hello =P so hi from Madrid, Spain and keep up the good stuff mate!

[@scottmanley]

+JAVIV94BLL Hullo!

[@Drrolfski]

Judging from this (and other) footage E:D (Horizons) seems like a pretty slow paced and dry gaming experience to me, especially because everything seems to be text based and driven by menus.

[@lightlandstrider]

+rolf ski It's more like a simulator than a fast paced action game. Actually the better definition is a huge galactic sandbox where you choose what you want to do with it, to some that is fine, others dislike it. Honestly I get the feeling that to get what everyone seems to think is the "best space game" we will still have to wait a couple of years, by then Star Citizen will (maybe) be finished and E:D will have had even more content added to it. If you aren't convinced just wait until then. Perhaps time will allow to quench the thirst of so many space enthusiasts.

[@doomsdayfighter508]

+Light Landstrider It's more like a game engine than anything else really. Some dev or company could make a really great game with a lot of content with this!

[@Mp57navy]

+rolf ski congratulations. You just explained how computer games work.

[@scottmanley]

+rolf ski Yes Elite doesn't have FMV's or A-List actors performing scripts. Combat does get pretty intense though.

[@Drrolfski]

Mp57navy You mean every computer game is slow-paced and text based driven? Right..

[@greensquiddy]

A thunderstorm? In the bay area? impossible! ;-) Yeah, I was surprised to hear, wasn't it a couple of years ago there was a funnel cloud spotted near San Jose? Or was that here in Seattle? Pretty wacky, either way.

[@mike198383]

FYI with the missions they have you pretty much need to have discovery scanner on all ships as a lot of these locations you have to scan planets to find the surface stations to make the deliveries. The bonus to this is that you can level up your exploration status and sell the data to stellar Cartographic.

[@davy9247]

Scott, I really love watching your videos and listening to your voice overs. Very pleasant and informational! Thank you for that. Sub +1

[@Dark__Thoughts]

When plotting a route before accepting a cargo related mission you should max out the cargo slider in the galaxy map to make sure you can do the route with that cargo as well. And in the system map is a tab now which lists all stations and settlements. And I have yaw on my stick and roll on my pedals, simply because I use the stick for the precise stuff and rolling doesn't need to be too precise. It's simply more comfortable even if I don't use it too much, but I couldn't really get used to roll on the stick at all, especially when it comes to aiming at a target. A lot of people who use KB/M have the same problem and for them it's also advisable to putt roll on the keyboard instead. There's also a little bolard ship indicator when you're at the right spot for boarding / transferring cargo. But yeah, avoid STRONG signal sources if you're a new player, there are also unknown and weak ones which are more suited to inspect them without too much risk.

[@kendokaaa]

Scott, the minimum requirement for VR is a 980, not Ti. On another note, there is another factor that ups the performance required, it's that distortion correction is performed on the image by rendering to a higher resolution (so for example the DK2 may be 1080p but stuff is rendered at 2364x1461). So already close to 1440p at 75hz and the consumer VR HMDs are higher resolution and higher framerate.

[@13deadghosts]

"They are looking for landmines ! Sure, whatever. " - Scott Manley :D

[@TheMarioFiles]

I recently got elite dangerous with horizons and finally bought a flight stick(with throttle). If you don't have elite dangerous yet you really should because I have been glued to it for MANY hours at a time.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

I bought Elite: Dangerous on a whim before Horizons was released because it was on sale for like $25. Since then I managed to work my way into a Python well before Horizons was released. Worth it.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Scott and I have the same setup on our joysticks. And I'm currently using a 3D Pro myself; it's a good joystick for a good price if you're not interested in investing in a "full on" setup.

[@Dak47922]

Hey scott, just wanted to discuss what are some of the advantages of having a base in the middle of a crater? Ive seen it lots so far in horizons. My thoughts are: smoother terrain, less chance of meteor impact, possible temperature/radiation control, minerals from the original impact. Some big downfalls would be: impaired LOS communications difficulty of access. Any thoughts? Is this something that could be considered in the future in real life?

[@Zanzubaa]

I am impressed Saitek are still about. I remember getting a Saitek Megagrip joystick for christmas when I was a kid in the 90s. They must be doing something right.

[@WillShackAttack]

17:24Two tons of poop is probably super useful in space. For like, fertilizing crops and stuff.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

I've had to haul 38 tonnes of it for a mission once. I assume my hold reeked afterward...

[@Alexander.Bittner]

+WillShackAttack I like how like nobody has got the hint to the martian and commented in 3 days

[@VBGaslima]

Very clear informative! I'm going to recommend all commanders that have joined us via horizons visit this video first..

[@freakstate]

So to clarify - things like "Multi crew ships" would be included if you currently bought Elite: Dangerous Horizons and wouldn't cost extra? 29:34

[@CapeGaming]

Hey Scott, love your videos haven't watched in while got some catching up to do . One thing small thing , not important but i hear this a'lot lately between NMS, ED and SC Forums. In your video you mention the Milky way as a universe ,when in reality its a spiral galaxy . Our universe is roughly 92 Billion LY in diameter ,where as our Spiral galaxy is 100,000 LY in diameter . Small mistake but i hear it often with all these major space simulation and exploration games . Sorry to nit pick , keep up the fantastic informative videos ... !

[@maclypse]

"Don't make the mistake of binding your yaw to the x-axis"? I usually don't feel irked by anything in Manley videos but.... bah, humbug and nonsense! While you fly largely on rolling rather than yawing, the roll doesn't need to be all that accurate. My control over my stick's twist is pretty crap and my old stick's twist is terrible to begin with, so I bound roll to twist, and put the yaw... on the x-axis. I get tremendous accuracy when aiming fixed weapons this way. It felt weird for the first few hours, but muscle memory is a wonderful thing; it's now second nature to me. This was a brilliant move for me, not a mistake, and it's seen me through months of piracy and murd... bounty hunting. My advice is that you bind whatever you want to where ever you feel like you need it. It's not wrong if it works brilliantly for you. They key words are "works" and "for you". It all depends on you, and your equipment.

[@scottmanley]

+maclypse I on the other hand have found the twist control on my X52 to be sufficient for shooting down bad guys even in games like Star Citizen which are dominated by Yaw & pitch.

[@pseudocoder78]

+maclypse Totally agree with you, X axis yaw is much easier (and IMO intuitive) to use for fine aiming control than twist yaw. Thrustmaster T-16000M

[@paracelsus9510]

maclypse inner you rip into the side of the cereal box don't you? Squeeze the tube near the nozzle too I bet ;)

[@StandardGoose]

I was super excited for surface landing, but then I bought a house and started a family and haven't played a computer game in two years. I just bought Horizons today in the Black Friday sale and I'm ready for the weekend.

[@Alienasa1]

Crashing my new Fer-de-lance just set me back 2.5 mil. Luckily watching your videos improved my mood a little at the moment.

[@nathanmcbow158]

Mouse wheel expands the sensors? SHIT. wish i knew that earlier. Well thanks, you just made my piloting career easier.

[@Alshain01]

You can put thrusters on other buttons too. On my Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS I have a rocker analog on the back of the throttle I use for lateral thrust and I just use buttons for up and down. In fact in E:D you can also use any button as a modifier, so holding my button 8 changes the functions of almost every other button on my flight stick. My hat is on the stick itself and I use it for other things not thrust related, button 8 doubles it's function too. Between my 12 buttons and the hat switch and this modifier ability, I don't ever use the keyboard, mouse, or the function menu on the right, even the ship lights have a button.

[@scottmanley]

+Alshain01 It's absolutely possible, but it's an easier learning curve if you have a less complicated control system. I mean I really just wanted to highlight how important lateral thrust controls are.

[@thaddeusmccaustland8023]

I am so getting Elite Horizons. You convinced me Scott. The only thing I think this game could do better is roleplay. If you had star citizen interiors mixed with Elite's ships combat economy and multiplayer you would have a simulation of the Star Wars universe, And no one would ever leave their armchairs again 0_o.

[@PlysovejKaktus]

It actually is fun to start from basics. I wiped my live save last week. I played since very first beta with 3 different missions, no mining at all, broken piracy and trading. That time we pretty much cut ourselves from nice gameplay developed over last year. Now I enjoy missions for few quid again. Aimless!

[@ka0skontrol504]

just an fyi....fertilizer (biowaste) can be used to make explosives. In saying that, it would make more sense that the "mob" in the game uses biowaste for such purposes.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

Thanks for this. I just bought Elite about a month ago, and hadn't got around to playing it yet. I need to get my Saitek hooked up again.

[@scottmanley]

+Chris Maillet This is very much focussed on Horizons, so don't get confused that I'm landing on planets.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

No problem, I know the difference. I would have waited for Horizons, but the regular Elite was on sale, so I bought it.

[@scottmanley]

+Chris Maillet Well if you bought it on sale at $15 then it's a bargain, you still have plenty to do, just no landing on planets.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

Scott Manley That was my thought process exactly! Thanks for all your hard work, both on the video games, and the science videos.

[@distor89]

Hullo Scott Manley. Just wanted to let you know that Elite Dangerous Horizons IS on steam. The game must be purchased on thw frontier store and fr there they will give you a steam key in which you can activate thru steam. The weird thing is that steam recognizes it as a separate game so you will have both a elite dangerous game and horizons game.

[@micahbdev]

Hey, Scott!!! They fixed the double rendering scenes with filters in the GTX 10 series.

[@Manabender]

13:34 Don't compare Elite to crap like Madden. While I've never played a Madden game, I find it hard to believe it took them any more than ten iterations to really hammer home a good football simulator. They're on, what, twenty? Twenty-five? Google says it's been around since about 1989. Madden doesn't need yearly releases. They're probably little more than roster updates these days. I'm honestly curious who buys them every year, making the yearly releases commercially viable. (My theory is that each iteration is bought primarily by that year's budding jocks, and that almost nobody owns two different iterations.) No, I think of Elite Dangerous more as an MMO. It's got the makings of an MMO. Just like WoW releasing a new expansion every couple years, Elite is doing the same. No subscription fee with Elite though; that's always a plus.

[@PCheuk38]

Thank you for this it def helped me get off the ground as a starter.

[@swdevbali]

I love how the end like that :D

[@janesdisorder1565]

When you were using your lateral and vertical thrusters to dodge the fire, you were losing speed, which is why the Anaconda was able to catch up to you and kill you. But, I'm sure you already know that. Nice video man.

[@robertdeford7762]

I was debating on buying Elite recently, not knowing about the Horizon update and, I'm glad I backed away since I lacked a HOTAS controller. I'm hoping for one as a Christmas gift and, if I get it I'll be playing on horizons.

[@Wyrmlingbait]

+Robert Deford I play with Keyboard and mouse just fine. I play in "Private Groups" so if you play in "Open Play" I'm not sure how well it'd go against human opponents.

[@robertdeford7762]

I know. :) I used to play some older games with a cheapo HOTAS and, I enjoyed them so much more than I did with a Keyboard+Mouse, so I'd just prefer to use HOTAS setup.

[@omegapng]

+Robert Deford I've heard that the mouse+keyboard is actually better if you plan on doing combat in the SRV, as it's really hard to control the SRV and use the turret. Of course if you just plan on doing exploration or mining, HOTAS all the way :p

[@AdrienGirod]

I'm almost sure "Bordage" comes from Pierre Bordage, one of the major writer from the French SF novels scene. :)

[@DaPassenger23]

@Scott Manley: I remember hearing what kind of headtracking you are using for ED but I can't find it anymore... would much appreciate some help :) cheers!

[@SlyNine]

The biggest thing about VR is you need higher min frames than a normal screens average. You also need lots of AA and some super sampling. Even my Titan x(p) can't max it out in VR.

[@killax1000]

This video convinced me to buy the game. And I also learned not to buy the regular Elite: Dangerous from the steam store. Have a like, comment & sub.

[@XENONEOMORPH1979]

i have so much trouble with the game to play ,and yet it is a beauty full game to play ,so frustrating so many keys to use i even bought the joystick ,have to plod on ,and getting best advice from the videos shown

[@XENONEOMORPH1979]

getting some advice from this well worth ,the listen

[@kendokaaa]

Thanks for uploading in 1440p :D

[@RCmies]

Thank you for making this video I'm kind of struggling with ED

[@scottmanley]

+wonderr Well it's more aimed at people who are buying the new season of updates since I spend time on planets.

[@scottmanley]

+zuluknob I guess I'm going to do a few more parts after all....

[@Alexander.Bittner]

+Scott Manley Yeah, that'd be awesome!

[@siriusblack9999]

why does youtube not show a message if you're trying to navigate off the page while writing a message... this is the third time i'm writing this my experience with horizon so far: SRV got destroyed because i got stuck on a ramp with no way to move AT ALL missions are pretty much ALL surface missions (or unavailable) the one space mission i had was a battle where the enemy destroyed me in about 10 seconds (before i was even able to face them) so i'm left with no money, no SRV and no missions that i can do \o/ my available missions ATM are "deliver this stuff over 40 lightyears for 10k", which i can't do due to my 8 lightyears of fuel and no money to buy new fuel "mine 1 tonnes of osmium" which i can't do since i have NO clue how/where to do so or a surface mission, which i ALSO can't do because i don't have a surface vehicle so yeah... i'm literally unable to do *ANYTHING* at this point EDIT: about 8 hours later, i'm back to this situation AGAIN with a lot of difficulty i managed to scavenge some trash someone dropped and sold it on the black market that earned me about 10k credits, allowing me to re-buy my SRV after that i got wrecked over and over again until now i'm back to having 1000 cr, no SRV and a 35 cr loan \o/ :/ i mean, the missions i'm able to accept are essentially "Go out and do this battle in which you have a 99% chance of getting wrecked in seconds" or "transport this thing you can't afford to buy" or "go mine this thing you need to be a pro miner for where i have no clue where to even find this shit..." so again, 9 missions i'm not qualified for 3 surface missions i can't do because i have no SRV and 1 mission that's a cargo transport that requires me to purchase 2 tons of items that cost 1992 cr each (while i only have 1000 cr)

[@Jdpoz]

Scott, I also have the X52 Saitek Pro. I've read some people have got theirs working with Kerbal Space Program but it doesn't seem to work well for me. Have you had any luck / interest in using a HOTAS for Kerbal?

[@Doodely654]

Considering picked up a Saitek X52 Pro and would love to know anyone's opinion of the HOTAS w/ consideration of Horizons coming out shortly? :)

[@Scipio219]

+Mitchell Pyrtle I've got an X-52 and it works fantastically

[@samir.3468]

I have an X-55 - recommend you also check that one out. Lots more switches on the throttle to map stuff to. Little mouse nub thing isn't super useful (or functional, unfortunately), but I'd say it's worth the extra cash - was for me anyway since I don't have a big desk so have to move my keyboard out of the way to use my HOTAS.

[@scottmanley]

+Mitchell Pyrtle It's almost like Elite was designed to be played on the X52 Pro

[@Doodely654]

I know they modeled the inside throttles of the ships off of it. Just wasn't sure how the vehicles worked using it, or if you guys swap to keyboard/gamepad when on the surfaces? :) Thanks for the answers still!

[@scottmanley]

+Mitchell Pyrtle Nah I use the X52 on the ground.

[@colinspeirs]

fun to watch, though Mr Manley's voice did sound a bit like Richard Park in space. looks a great inheritor to Elite & Frontier

[@phatstrats6015]

Scott Horizons just came out in steam! Hopefully I will get my steam key soon as I got Horizons beta! :)

[@jazzx251]

Haha - love the menu ... looks like a homage to Alien Isolation .. with it's massive planet and space station next door.

[@554466551]

Thanks for the run through, Scott. Horizons looks like a nice addition. I'm not sure I was listening close enough so forgive me if you went over this briefly but I was curious if the SRV has upgradable systems like the ships do?

[@AthAthanasius]

[phone] It doesn't yet, no. Not clear if it will or if we'll just have a choice between different surface vehicles (currently it's just the one, the Scarab).

[@554466551]

Ath Athanasius Thanks, Ath. Love tinkering with different loadouts and salivating over what I can look forward to buying someday. Hopefully they'll give us some options over the coming year.

[@blackstealth8168]

I'm confused. I paid $60 for your game and I have to basically re-buy your game to get all of this new stuff? Why are you marketing your DLC as a new game?

[@banama1758]

+Patrick Ellis cuz they need more money, they need to keep the servers up improve the game and make profit

[@ondejakob]

+Patrick Ellis actually... you will get stuff like multi crew ships and pilot customization and some other neat stuff Frontier have planned for this season. I do agree the business model is not optimal ;) however, look at it as a game with a built-in season pass. It might ease the pain in your wallet.

[@squared9462]

It is a still a little too much in my opinion, thankfully when I bought it today they lowered it too 30

[@casedistorted]

+Malachi Cook It's really expensive if you don't manage to get both games for like 50% off or something.

[@noahslyker2806]

+Patrick Ellis its 30 right now

[@Alcan4]

This looks a lot like a hugely improved X-Beyond game which I am a huge fan of, might give this a shot :D

[@scottmanley]

+!AlCaN! It's beautiful and immersive with realistic scaled star systems, but X has a bunch of things that Elite doesn't have - NPC fleet management and Station building for example. X still has it's niche.

[@Alcan4]

+Scott Manley I havent looked into Elite as much but Station building and managing and micromanaging all the ships for them is one of the better parts X has to offer Yet love that you can land on planets a LOT, its a feature i always hoped X would implement ever since i got X1 and even up to X3 they never fulfilled that wish :D

[@matthewcrazywolfguillen8348]

"Flying through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops boy".

[@dominicletourneau8940]

Definitely disagree with using a hat for the vertical and horizontal thrusters. Hell, my 30 dollar Thrustmaster X has an analog control on the front of the thruster giving me an extra axis of control for maximum control then I just use two of the thumb buttons for the other direction.

[@Mboogy]

To those saying it gets bland after about a days worth of play.. Go out there and create a game with over 400 billion systems(procedurly generated of course), planetary landing, first person combat, giant cities and hundreds of various jobs to do..... also do this in under a year... people should note that Star Citizen was announced as early as 2012. it's barely just coming out and yet I see no one noting how long it took here... These game developers such as FD are creating games with mechanics that haven't been used in most games... y'all lack patience. even for a game that's clearly still being improved day after day... COME ON SON!!!

[@staticbob2001]

I don't know if you have time to respond to questions, but I have a little extra money to burn this month and 'Horizons' is what I was planning to spend it on. I was also going to get a joystick to go with it, and I've been eyeballing Saitek's X-55. I guess what I'm wondering here is the X-55 (while very easy on the eyes), is rather expensive, and I'm not really what you'd call a hard core gamer. Would buying a set up like that be worth the cost for an amateur player like myself?

[@GRAFFDEMON]

Euro Truck Simulator in Space.

[@CarlBewley]

win win then innit...

[@GRAFFDEMON]

Carl Bewley yup!

[@benschwab8093]

on the frontier store they have a beta version n non beta horizons for sale, what is the difference (if any) between them? i plan on buying horizons but unsure if i should get the beta version

[@DJChipsandGarlic]

any quick ways to get one of the top end ships? even grinding bounties is taking a while. got a perfect mining location with a station thats literally 30 seconds away in super cruise.

[@steelgriffin7716]

I can't seem to figure out landings. I feel so stupid. Can't seem to get a transition into orbital cruise.

[@loomismeister]

I wish someone would release a version of Elite Dangerous engine with interesting ship design and storyline. Like freelancer in the ED engine would be really fun.

[@darkitachi50]

So I just got the game, died since I thought it woulndt matter much but you actually lose your SRV. Now I cant do any SRV missions (just figured out how they worked) and all missions I get are finding targets to kill(no idea how to find them). Any help?

[@Alexander.Bittner]

I really like that Elite doesn't need very powerful hardware unlike a lot of new games

[@AthAthanasius]

+Alexander Bittner You're correct that the base/season 1 game doesn't. But the planetary stuff in Horizons /does/. You absolutely need a GPU capable of 'compute shaders', and from what I've been hearing it does seem that anything older than the nvidiz GTX 7xx series won't cut it for decent frame rate.

[@JoeyBower]

+Ath Athanasius That's odd considering the 770 is basically a 680 in disguise. The only difference being the BIOS on the chip of course. I'm sure the high end 600 series cards will do just fine.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

+Ath Athanasius If your GPU isn't a decade old it should handle compute shaders. I got a HD7870 which is neither new or was ever particularly good as a midrange card but it handles Horizons very well too. I guess the equivalent would be a GTX760 in that case but what's probably important is the VRam as well, a lot of the GPUs especially from nVidia had under 1GB VRam and I personally would suggest at least 2GB so that the GPU can hold enough for a quick terrain gen.

[@JoeyBower]

+IHaTeD2 Pretty much this. Covers what needs to be covered.

[@kanaric]

+Alexander Bittner the amount of new games that need powerful hardware to play are very few. This isn't like 2002 where you need the top PC to play almost any new release. Shit is made now to work on as wide of systems as possible.

[@Altrue]

Good concept! What about you do a whole series on it once Horizons hits in a few hours?

[@piratehunter1]

wht keybind setup would you suggest for keyboard with voice command and a thrustmaster t flight?

[@Lhorkan]

I really want to like Elite because of its amazing UI and because I'm looking for a reason to get VR gear, but I can't help but feel really disappointed about the planets in Horizons - all of them are practically featureless, devoid of any colour or places of interest. Sure, there are a couple of quests, but just having to run into some barrels isn't going to win me over. The planets represent all that is bad about procedural generation: endless same-y looking places with nothing to do after having seen the three different quest types. And that in stark contrast with what some low budget indie games are doing (the obvious comparison being No Man's Sky) - the cynic in me fears that a reason to visit planets is going to be scheduled for next year's full price release.

[@ekrathrawl]

Wait... That opening music is SOOO like music from Galactic Civilization 3... Or am I just crazy on this?

[@Shudnawz]

More than two years later. Started Playing Elite: Dangerous - Horizons. My starting point? Baker's Prospect.

[@tiagopassarela]

I just bought Elite: Dangerous and now there's already an expansion but its too damn expensive :/

[@greyfoxnola]

+Tiago Passarela Worth it, though. Subjectively, of course.

[@mozellehill3655]

Tiago Passarela I got it and the legend edition for 20 dollars

[@smoebody]

its nice to see some ridiculous hilarious ED game mechanics on your channel. proves me right about my opinion of ED :-)

[@smoebody]

btw. Im talking about the shootdown at the end

[@Elrarion2]

+Ulf Seltmann What specifically is hilarious about the shootout?

[@TheEpicAppleEater01]

+Elrarion2 I like shooting up Sidewinders and Eagles in my Viper...

[@Elrarion2]

AppleEater01 .... Ok, that doesn't really answer my question.

[@wraithwrecker_]

+Ulf Seltmann He should have gone to witchspace instead of supercruise. Jumping between systems yields no masslock. His death was his own fault and probably on purpose to an extent.

[@homeopathicfossil-fuels4789]

Also you should have throttled back into blue, done a turn around and fly like a hummingbird on crack past the dude then just jacked the throttle all the way up and gotten the hell outta dodge.

[@drnoob42]

The prices seem so much more balanced now. I hated the grind of 2000-5000 of the starting contracts

[@aaronlucas6426]

LOL @ Tim Allen reference. +Scott Manley, did you buy that rover at Sears?

[@Nesseight]

"He's flying a clunker... GET HIM!!!"

[@turbotim129]

I'm pissed off!!! i've just purchased the package off steam which includes Elite dangerous, Elite dangerous horizons, and elite dangerous commander with the understanding that Elite dangerous is required to play Horizons, only to watch this video and learn that Elite dangerous isn't required to play horizons!!! Why the fuck would steam be selling a package like this knowing full well Elite dangerous isn't required, dissapointment is an understatement!! i feel robbed! I'm getting nothing more for paying £38 than i would by just purchasing Horizons at £20. Nice vid btw, it's gonna help alot tomorrow when i first enter the galaxy. Man i feel robbed though!

[@enragedbagels]

elite dangerous is required for horizons...

[@turbotim129]

so what difference would there be if i had just purchased horizons from steam on its own?

[@enragedbagels]

turbotim129 You would also need the base game. It's like an expansion, it doesn't work on its own

[@turbotim129]

ok thanks man that's cheered me up. I thought I'd been robbed.

[@enragedbagels]

turbotim129 Haha, no problem. What would've been a robbery, is if they made us pay $30 a month for a subscription. I'm happy they're doing it differently

[@edweagle]

Scott, soon as you identified the anaconda as a wanted npc I was like oh man you are soooooo dead lol

[@pseudocoder78]

+Edward Weagle He could have escaped but he didn't boost out quite fast enough initially, and just when it looked like he was going to make it anyway, he redirected power to shields (queue picard facepalm). He was almost out of laser range too. Doing that lowered his speed, bringing him squarely back into weapons range and making the mass lock problem worse. Rookie mistake!

[@blackmanfu]

+pseudocoder78 Not really. He wouldn't have been able to outrun them anyway. Even with full pips to shields and boosting as often as his little ship would go, they were still gaining on him and well within laser range.

[@RealPigeon]

+blackmanfu Well he shouldnt have stuck around after the Vulture said "this is our haul just keep on your way." but he did and it cost him his ship.

[@justjordan8018]

So is there a point to play the vanila game if I own the Horizon ?? Is there a negative if I run the vanila game? I mean are they connected and it does not matter or does it batter if you own both?

[@nonyabiness4838]

Almost got away! Hate it when that happens :) I think it's a little ridiculous that it's going to cost me another $45 to play the horizons "expansion" when I paid $75 for the original game. Unfortunately, they are going to have to come up with a LOT more than landing on objects with no atmosphere and rovers before I'll spend that kind of money on the same game.

[@scottmanley]

+Nonya Biness You can always choose to wait until it goes on sale, you'll still get the new Ships and improvements to the core game, just no planets and multi crew ships. Of course, there'll be another Season update expected at the end of 2016......

[@nonyabiness4838]

Scott Manley Yeah... That's kind of what I was thinking... I'm just a little torn, because I use this game to relax and I REALLY want to support their work. Just a little steep, especially around holiday time.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

9:00 "FriendShip Drive"... yay, that's worth a brohoof /)

[@fedaykinwolf]

So is ED: Horizons completely Stand alone, and hence rendering ED obsolete? Are ED:H universes and ED universes separate?

[@SeamusMcNeil]

Hey Scott - Did not know you where in California. I am a Scot living in Missouri ;) OK I still am not sure how Horizons fits into this. I have both Elite Dangerous (ED) and Horizons. If I play Horizons do I get all the content of ED or is it like new areas? Excuse my ignorance but I have not been able to understand this. I know you said it is like ED 2016. Many thanks mate and all the best. Cheers Jim

[@chriscalvat]

Can any one tell me if the starting ship comes equipped with the ability to land on planets and deploy a rover or do you need to save and buy one since other videos done by other players lead me to believe you have to by the equipment for your ship? Also I am a big fan of games like euro truck simulation and the like so will this game appeal to me?