Elite: Dangerous From Scratch - Trading

[@shawn14isme]

perfectly timed video. Ive started playing this game a lot the past few days.

[@The_Casual]

I just started too.

[@DoctorORBiT]

Me too, about a week ago!

[@melinoe3783]

Same! Started two days ago and already have a cobra

[@shawn14isme]

MrCell2009 Wow thank you! i have a few million from bounty hunting. I have access to a type 6.

[@MrCell2009]

+Shawn Wood good luck if you take them tho they can be kinda tricky also the process is best with and asp and will require you to log in and out while docked at the station to fill your cargo hold with high paying missions. also you cant be scanned so you need a relatively fast ship like a hauler, cobra, python or asp to do it well.

[@trisymphony]

Let's jump to station Ibn-La'Ahad in the Altaïr system, where nothing is true and Eranin Pearl Whiskey is permitted.

[@554466551]

In the options you can assign a button to supercruise. This will allow you to accelerate to supercruise no matter what direction you're facing and regardless of your selected destination. Makes skirting those occluded waypoints a breeze! I love watching these for the little things I've missed and which make life easier. Totally learned a few new tricks today. Thanks, Scott.

[@TheExard3k]

Real men boost out of the slot! You're spoiling the kids, Scott!

[@toxiccameron3806]

+Brage Henriksen (Brbrekk) the only way to undock.

[@MrCheezeNip]

+TheExard3k I had one guy tell me to be more careful after I expertly dodged his type 9 while boosting out of the slot lol.

[@toxiccameron3806]

+MrCheezeNip Haha. I always try to be as inconvenient as possible whenever they try to undock ;)

[@RyanRyzzo]

+TheExard3k Also deploy hardpoints. And go PEWPEWPEWPEW!

[@Keklord_]

I Thrust upwards, line up with the exit and boost the fuck out.

[@NichoTBE]

Best way to make money in this game starting as a new character, as I've just started a new game myself is- If you got horizons expansion then just do surface missions around the starting area. It may be a bug as I've not had this happen once I left the starting area. So take a mission of mercy which is basically to find a downed pilot escape pod with the SRV, usually you can find them within a 30k radius of the place your docked at. When you find the crashed vessel there will probably be 4 pilots to rescue, the SRV holds 2 so go to and from your ship to get all 4 pilots. When you go back to the station to complete the mission they will only ask for 1 pilot letting you keep the other 3 so when you accept another mercy mission you can instantly complete it with the other 3 pilots, if you look around you can get upto 200k per pilot. I'm now about 30 ly from the starting area and it doesn't seem to happen anymore, i only rescue 1 pilot, needs more testing tho to confirm. Getting 500k+ for 30 mins work at the start of the game was pretty helpful.

[@554466551]

+NichoTBE I've been able to do the same thing in other systems so don't be afraid to travel. You must've just had a bad run of luck on the bulletin board those visits.

[@alexandervanhoek8245]

Thanks Scott. I just bought Elite on my PS4 PRO and i just love the sim/game. I'm just having some difficulties starting out on my own to earn credits etc. I'm still flying around in my Sidewinder and completed all the tutorials. Thanks again Scott, I've enjoyed your space oriented channel for a year or so already. Happy flying/gaming.

[@virus1007]

Thanks for playing this, Scott. Been watching it a long time but seen mixed reviews. I really like your videos and will keep watching this series.

[@kajanov]

If you often find yourself in a situation where your jump target is behind something or any other situation which requires you enter/exit frameshift without hyperjumping to your target system, you may want to bind the enter frameshift button.This in addition to the default bind for frameshift/hyperdrive. Or you may want to bind frameshift and hyperjump to differnt buttons. These keybinds are available, but not bound to anything by default.

[@kajanov]

+kajanov this is in reference to what Scott as doing arround the 10 minute mark

[@LeeNTien]

To the new players, as stated in the video, for a ship with less than 100t cargo running Rare trade goods routes is much more advantageous than any other kind of trading available. And very accessible to new players... Although a lot of googling is required =] Or do the shadow missions (smuggling). It's apparently a new thing, but the payouts there are even crazier (like up to 7mil per courier mission). But I have no clue what are the requirements....

[@b4ux1t3-tech]

Ha! The Hauler even has what looks like air conditioning vents that are extremely similar to the ones in Ford cars and vans.

[@DustySquitoNM]

I'm 99% sure they're modeled off of the ones from a late model Toyota Celica.

[@timmyjacobs0]

Scott! Sort by module type is great, it lumps all fuel scoops, etc. Together, and then sorts those by worst to best so to speak. Really great!

[@popuptoaster]

If you map the FSD control to two separate buttons, one to jump and one for in system travel you can get around obstacles much easier than having to keep reselecting jump destinations when they are obstructed.

[@Cubinator73]

You could also use fuel scoop for long distance traveling.

[@TheRogueWolf]

The problem with obscured jump targets is why I have a hotkey set to jump right into supercruise. Also, I've found it much better to set a course specifically to a station within my destination system, so that I'm not fumbling around with menus and maps while some jerk NPC pirate lines up for an interdiction. Also, another tip: When you're looking to sell things (whether trading goods or selling off mined materials), check the bulletin board first. I once made 112k credits on a small pile of minerals that would've gotten me about 8k on the market, because there was a mission for those minerals on the board. And note at around 19:00, Scott's HUD above the fuel readout shows "illicit goods". Some systems prohibit certain items while others don't, and if you're scanned by law enforcement with that tag showing, they won't care that you're "just passing through". It can pay to check each system along your route for what's considered contraband if you're doing a long haul and need to stop for gas!

[@Logan_K]

Scott, You can sort by module type. That tends to be a better way to see what is actually available. It's a real time saver when looking for specific things

[@bliksemengel]

Am I the only one who hears "friendship drive" rather the frameshift drive from the ship's computer?

[@Archgeek0]

+Bliksem Engel No. Everyone hears that. It was a widespread meme last year. Verily, google image search "friendship drive" and be amused.

[@cakelesscoder9562]

+Daniel Wilson thank you for that gem of info

[@Malbogia84]

My 5 year old daughter always says friendship drive charging lol. Makes me giggle every time.

[@gownerjones2]

Hah, well I knew I had something to learn still. I've been playing this game for years but I never knew that the navball actually aligns with the landing pad you've been assigned.

[@stagehog81]

In regards to sorting the parts while outfitting your ship, I find it's easier to find what I'm looking for when I sort by Module Type. This way if I were looking for a certain size Cargo Bay all of the Cargo Bays will be next to each other.

[@DanteCorwyn]

Good tutorial. I occasionally trade in my Cobra, but I tend to do bounty hunts or courier runs, so seeing how trading works properly is useful. It's worth checking the bulletin board every time you land in a new station. There's always the chance someone wants some of your cargo at a premium rate. Also, take along surplus stock (so if someone wants 5 coffee, take 10 if you can). I've been able to complete one mission, then automatically start and complete another, just because there was high demand for that item. Are you going to be covering mining by any chance? I've just bought an Adder to act as a mining ship (there seems to be a huge demand for certain minerals and metals that can only be sourced by directly mining them in my local systems), and it would good to see how it works in practice, and if it is as dull as I've heard (I'm contemplating buying a small fleet of specialist ships to pull of jobs as the demand comes, my Cobra as a good all-rounder, possibly a Viper MkIV or a vulture as a bounty-hunter/assassination ship etc)

[@lordwolfy]

FYI: +Scott Manley, you can setup Supercruise as its own button in the options menu... I found this VERY useful...

[@Annoxium]

Are you using TrackIR, Scott? What's your equipment when it comes to flying? Which joystick, etc?

[@dwinurhadi4758]

if you want to look for a station's entrance, you can look at the station's hologram on your dashboard. the station's hologram has an arrow that points at the entrance

[@PortalPottyMan]

Scott, which flying mechanic do you prefer using, Elite's or Star Citizen's? I think they're slightly different but I'm not sure. I have a joystick and want to play the game with the best flying. I will eventually buy both though :)

[@vagabondht5791]

When outfitting its easier to see what modules by using the sort by name decending/acending depending on what you want. It will group modules type e.g. Cargo rack then by size e.g. 1 then the next biggist. Depending if the station sells it. normaly a high tech system is better for high level stuff. But remember the stations change thier stuff every so often.

[@justince89]

Are you going to try and use EyeX any time in the near future for ED? Or any other games? I would love to know what you think of the hardware and software.

[@MrExpresate]

Hey Scott, is this game worth looking into? My main concern is the way they're handling expansions. If I buy Horizons I get the base game, too, right? Will I then have to spend ~60 CAD for every new expansion?

[@lymboxx]

Scott there are two different hotkeys for super cruise and frame shift jump. You don't have to select a different target first.

[@ImrePaasen]

When in outfitting you can sort parts on module type, that really heps finding what you are looking for. Alphabetic also works quite well for me.

[@AltereggoLol1]

"My little sidewinder, my little sidewinder, aahaahaaaahah"

[@andrewbailey7999]

It's much easier just to bind a key to jump to Supercruise. That way you don't have to un-target your destination system

[@rupert5330]

How did you get it so you can freely look around the cockpit? In order to look around i have to hold left shift and press WASD to get to the different menus

[@1234ages]

hey Scott. in the start of the video you said you don't know a good way to sort to find the class 3 cargo. if you select to sort on class decending one of the first 5 or so is the cargorack you where looking for. Good vid btw. I might want to pick up the game again.

[@TheGribbleNator]

Thumbs up for the Star Wars reference, Scott.

[@SpacialKatana]

Filter by name....thought you were clever Scott :D

[@KRU63R]

I love the haunted Hauler. Zorgon Peterson ships, in general, are really good.

[@abirvandergriff8584]

Hello Scott, If you sort the internal modules by name, it makes it much easier to find specific modules, such as that class 3 cargo rack.

[@FRPlayerOne]

"With Stars, the heavier they are, the brighter they burn, the faster they die." - Scott Manley, 2015.

[@codypturner]

Mixing up light-years and kilometers, that's like a metaphor of its own

[@tankbuddy9666]

Hey Scott, I have a question about Elite: Dangerous and the to-be released "seasons". I just bought Elite: Dangerous on Steam for $15, but I am considering getting a refund after reading all the shenanigans about Frontier releasing $60 updates/seasons for the Elite series every year. What is the best plan of action if I want to experience this game? (It sounded like content is somewhat lacking, but I am pretty into this space stuff)

[@tankbuddy9666]

***** I figured that I'm getting content worth at least $15 so I'm gonna keep it.

[@SQW0]

Why would the ship mass affect FTL jump distance? In STL mass matters but I doubt you are using conventional Newtonian principal to propel the ship forward.

[@raysteam1]

+SQW0 More mass leads to more spacetime disturbance.

[@General12th]

+SQW0 There's an academic paper that came out recently that discussed warp bubbles and what kind of energy requirements you'd need in order to create a warp bubble. It turns out that the amount of energy you need is proportional to the mass-energy content of what's inside the bubble. The less stuff in your hull that isn't warp fuel, the farther you can go. It works exactly like rocketry.

[@DerGeistDesKriegers]

Yo scott, there is you can set up a button to "FSD into Supercruise" in the options menu, its there especially for those occasions when the jump destination is obscurred ;)

[@Paulynices]

Thanks for the awesome videos scott!

[@MrCabledawg45]

how did you get the beta? I just bought the game and those prices are waaaaaay different. also I skipped this ship and went straight for the Adder. some random cmdr I ran into teamed up and we collected bounties til I had almost 300k then I bought the Adder. now I trying to do trading. great video this would have helped me out had I not had that bounty run with him.

[@entspeak]

This may have already been stated, but I find it easiest to sort by module type. Then all the cargo racks would be together.

[@tanyatoms6396]

Hey Scott there is a tab called name ascending and descending so you can find the items you want with ease of access

[@Tuttomenui]

I've noticed in my elite dangerous my ship had 2 extra slots for the planet stuff even though I can't use them for planets. I only have the base game. But one of the extra slots can be used for other stuff. Made my ship a whole lot better.

[@UndeniablyElated]

Honestly, the best way to start "from scratch" is to go to a low res site, get some bounties by just taking a pop at whatever the law enforcement is shooting at, then by yourself a type-6 or something with reasonable cargo, fit it for long jumps and start long range smuggling. People are saying it has been nerfed but I'm still making 5mil per hour and a half, and that's with usually messing up and getting scanned, losing 5-15mil.

[@DarkBladeX98]

So I'm out here in my Asp Explorer seeing what our great galaxy has to offer, and I've stumbled across a few planets first discovered by a name I actually recognize; the one and only Scot Manley himself! They're in COL 285 Sector QT-P B6-2, where it's nice and quiet.

[@WinnyJ1]

I usually sort the meny by class. That usually dose the trick

[@Firecul]

+WinnyJ1 or module type, that's my go to.

[@Falney]

+WinnyJ1 I search by class then by name... That way it will sort by name but with the lowest class at the top working up to the highest class. If you know the name of what you are looking for it is quick and easy to scroll down to that letter.

[@WolfHack]

Damn, I forgot how awful buying modules was. No organization. makes so much more sense now.

[@fabske_1234]

So, I need to ask this question. Scott, or anyone else: do you have some kind of trick to get to Proxima Centauri, in the game? 0.22 ly are way too far to travel, at least you don't want to travel about 30-75 minutes in Supercruise

[@fabske_1234]

***** Who wants to wait that long? I've read something about this on reddit: "I guess it's an inside joke... The closest star from Sol is probably the farthest in game..." And that is pretty much describing the situation.....

[@sweg8558]

just bought the game and can't wait to get playing

[@Teekeks]

Well, I am on my way to the core of the milkyway atm. somewhere half there, its funny how you scan less and less things the more jumps you make. I am only scanning the main star, all earthlike planets I find and all stars that I can scan without actualy travel within the system (so mostly only on dual stars). I was visiting the Lagoon Nebula the other day, its quite nice there and not THAT far away, there is also a interesting neutronstar formation nearby I found. I make that journey with a ASP Explorer. Fun fact: you sometimes jump directly between two really hot stars that are REALLY close to each other so you start to overheat without being within the corona :D Already lost 2% of my Hull that way. Will be interesting to see the huge Black Hole in Sag A*, its still like 12k LY away.

[@lostfan10000]

+Teekeks All great explorers go to Sag A* at least once in their life.

[@BoarhideGaming]

One day, one day I shall outfit my Han-solo-esque smuggler ASP with an actual explorer loudout and visit there too. One day!

[@Teekeks]

+BoarhideGaming that outfit is ridicolous expensive btw :) The bad thing: you are at least a moth bound to explore, there is no "I was just a Quick fight and then continue normaly" in this. It is indeed a dedication to a goal. It helps alot to have a second screen and just watch movies while you explore. I actualy could have kitted out my asp just that smal mit better, but a ~23Mio Jumpdrive is quite a bit :D I should have saved money for the verry best accecible fuelscoop, the 412u/t is just not quick enouth for a 32t Tank. (maybe I should also have goten a 64t fueltank. that or the better fuelscoop). I am actualy so broke, if I die out there, I have to start from zero again. its a all or nothing mission. (I also will recruit a couple guys to escort me when I come back in habitated space since I dont want to die on the last few jumps because I have no shield. I mean I will have scan data for a couple 10 Mio credits when I come back.

[@Firecul]

+Teekeks I loved my asp for getting about, 900+Ly on a tank and about 40ly per jump. I could have got a bigger range if I could have put up with a smaller scoop.

[@BoarhideGaming]

Teekeks Wow, that's actually an awfully low amount of money for all that time exploring, I make at least 30 Million in 2:30h doing smuggle missions. Then again, I don't explore for the money but for the fun

[@Mister_Facepalm]

What kind of head-tracker are you using?

[@TunnelRodent]

one big help is that if you hit the 0 key it will automatically lock you back onto your plotted route

[@WarriorPanther98]

How can you see the ship from outside?

[@Terenfear]

Hey Scott, have you tried XCOM: Enemy Within with Long War mod? It's quite enjoyable, sophisticated, approved by Jake Solomon and loaded with lots of nice tweaks and features, which I think you would definitely love.

[@davidmurphy563]

You can sort by module type which is a little easier. Also, you make more money selling your fittings in outfitting where you get 100% of the value before you sell the ship where you get a little less than full value.

[@UMAPeRsOn7]

May i have lost it but you didnt say witch ships are a good freighter.(cobra and type-6)

[@fabske_1234]

I would need some advice. My Lenovo Z50-70: Intel i5 4210-U (4 CPU) with 4GB RAM/Nvidia Geforce 840M with 2GB VRam (or whatever it's called on graphic cards) It's a laptop. Can I play Elite: Dangerous? It's very cheap on Steam-Sale right now

[@tris1452]

Yes, definetly

[@fabske_1234]

TrisTechUK Thank you. That's awesome :D

[@BlueTrueEthan]

+fabske 1234 I have the same laptop as you, but with 8GB of ram and 4GB of VRAM., and an i7 4510-U dual core. I can play it at around 25 fps on its highest setting, so you should hopefully get good fps on medium/low.

[@fabske_1234]

***** Yeah, I don't expect it to be better than that. I give a f*** about the graphic :D

[@fabske_1234]

Okay, need to ask once more. How about the Horizons expansion? According to Steam, it needs 6GB RAM instead of 4 (which is the minimum for the normal E:D) but I'm not sure if this is true. Question (again) can I run it? (this time the expansion)

[@SamuelCish]

I wonder how colliding with a planet at warp speed would affect the planet. Something even with that relatively small of a mass (when compared to a planet) going at that speed must have a massive impact force.

[@General12th]

+SamuelCish Presumably, the frame drive works like a warp bubble: it might be travelling faster than light, but you certainly aren't. If you ram an object with a warp bubble, tidal stress will tear it apart (and probably shower you with a deadly rain of microscopic bullets), but it'll slow down to whatever relative speed it had before you turned on the frame drive. In other words, you could drill through a planet, but you couldn't destroy it.

[@contentcorrupted612]

I was flying around in space, investigating some random things that came up on my navs, when I dropped out of hyper space I was being shot at, so I killed the person who shot me, and took his personal weapons. I knew that they were counted as stolen so I went to an anarchic system and docked, to see that there's no option to sell them. Any help?

[@contentcorrupted612]

***** It worked! Thanks!

[@Manabender]

When starting out, I strongly suggest KEEPING your discovery scanner. It's worth quite a bit (in early game terms) to scan every unexplored star you come across and sell the data, and since you warp into systems facing the star, it takes very little time. Yes, optional internal slots are tight, but it's well worth the slot. On a semi-related note, I found out the hard way that if you want to mine in an asteroid belt, you have to scan it first. Sometimes it'll come pre-scanned in well-populated systems, but otherwise, bring at least a basic scanner. By extension, it might be difficult to do planetary landings in unexplored systems without at least a basic scanner. On another semi-related note, I also found out the hard way that mining in asteroid belts is a great way to get yourself killed. NPC pirates will blast you to bits. First (and so far, only) time I died was to some dick that thought about 20k credits worth of metals was worth it. The moral of the story is, if you hear "Scan detected" in an asteroid belt, *RUN*.

[@dr.redstone7980]

*D E J A V U*

[@megapepperbelly]

Can anyone tell me why his jump range decreased when he is fully loaded, I'm no expert or anything but I thought weight didn't apply in space? I know mass and weight are different, so does it take more fuel to move more mass? Just curious... :)

[@General12th]

+megapepperbelly There's an academic paper that came out recently that discussed what kind of energy requirements you'd need in order to create a warp bubble. It turns out that the amount of energy you need is proportional to the mass-energy content of what's inside the bubble. So if you load your hull with stuff that's not warp fuel, you can't go as far. It works exactly like rocketry.

[@megapepperbelly]

***** Got it, thanks!

[@StandardGoose]

Moving a large mass requires more energy than moving a small mass; friction or no friction, gravity or no gravity.

[@TheFlyWahine]

Altair is from Assassins Creed 1. But its soposed to be two dots over the i to be corect. But whatever ppl know.

[@RovingTroll]

What about exploration Scott?

[@JohnyAngelo]

Yo, Scott, are you planning to get Oculus rift for Elite?

[@JohnyAngelo]

***** He's using track IR, he recently got gtx980ti, and elite is playble with oculus DK2 with gtx770, which i had, so in the end, with consumer version with his graphic card, he should be able to play. Dont know about recording it, since it wouldnt so cool to watch, but still. The ammount of immersion one can get thru oculus in games such a elite is hardly compareable to any head tracking on flat screen. Cheers.

[@timothymcguire5126]

Does the game have a black market? And if so is it extra profitable?

[@JohnMichaelson]

+Timothy McGuire Yes there are black markets at some stations (they're in the Contacts menu if they exist), but whether or not something is "extra profitable" to me depends on how much time you spent getting it. If something can be sold legally in a system like gold for 10000 and you take some pirated gold you shot out of someone to it, you won't get 10000 at the black market, more like 7000 or something (used to be anyway, I haven't done it for a long time). You WILL get far more money per unit because you didn't have to buy the gold first, but if you'd bought 30 tons and made 500 profit per ton, you'll make more than if you just scoop up two tons from some poor ship you spent more time hunting down, fighting, etc. Just depends on what you find more fun! Long story short, if you're going to be a black marketeer, it pays more to target ships already wanted by the authorities. You'll get the bounty for killing them on top of whatever they drop that you can collect and sell at the black market. Target their cargo hatches with the subsystems targeting key.

[@H4hT53]

What about the trading tools? Like the eddb.io/ That one (with the automatic connector) really helped me start out.

[@Keklord_]

I wish you could move ships around and store them in one station.

[@beanacomputer]

Really tempted to pick this game up, but I don't think I have the hardware to do it justice. Time to go flightstick shopping I guess!

[@kelvinbrinham6526]

What if they don't buy the whisky?

[@Zw285]

If you don't won Elite AT ALL and you buy Horizons, what do you miss out on?

[@Hilko26]

+Zyron I'm 99% sure you don't miss anything!

[@falcor200]

+Hilko Jongsma Nothing you get everything.

[@Hilko26]

***** And if you just buy elite dangerous? or is that option deleted? I'm not sure because I already own elite + horizons.

[@WarriorManWM]

+Hilko Jongsma If you have bought Elite: Dangerous you won't get Horizons. If you buy Elite: Dangerous you won't get Horizons. If you own Horizons, you own all the Elite: Dangerous content + the Horizons content. If you own both, that means you have the Elite: Dangerous content twice + the Horizons content once.

[@jonby6]

If you buy Horizons, Elite comes with it. Horizons needs Elite as the base of the game, so even if you somehow got Horizons by itself it would be useless.

[@SV_Try_Magic]

been trading in a type 9 for a while now. Its probably the fastest way to earn credits outside of smuggling.

[@Brackynews]

"Beagle has landed" joke not lost on me. gj Frontier.

[@RMS_Gigantic]

I tried trading in this game. After finally (mostly) working out the unintuitive controls, I jumped into hyperspace to head towards the cargo's destonation. I jumped out of cargo space before actually reaching the planet I was heading to for fear of smacking into something at extremely high speeds, so I attempted to open my map to get my bearings, only to get blown up by someone with no motivation to do so. I found out that the "someone" who destroyed my ship wasn't a griefer but by an AI that I can only guess is programmed to randomly destroy players who are trying to mind their own business. That came as the last straw of a long string of frustrations (which otherwise revolved around the controls, and the tutorial telling me TO do things without telling me HOW to do them despite supposedly being a tutorial) I had with this game, so I got the game refunded through Steam and haven't looked back until now. Where did I go wrong, Scott?

[@johnderouen1038]

+Mewtario Elite takes time. I haven't invested a tremendous amount in it myself (roughly 95 hours, which isn't actually that much), but once you work out the kinks it goes quickly. On the subject of controls: The default binds for roll and yaw are disastrous. I rebound my yaw to my mouse X-axis and roll to A and D. That should help a lot. The rest are, in my experience, quite good, and it just takes practice to really become proficient with them. Hope this helps; even if you decide not to return to Elite, my words on patience and practice still apply to the majority of games like it.

[@qtheplatypus]

You haul 16 tons and what do you get ?

[@ThatGuy-nv2wo]

Sorting by name I feel is the best way

[@AlphaHarcos]

i loved the video can you do some more ? pls

[@Savsgames]

Do the makers of Elite plan on making some slightly.. . Bigger ships? Maybe like- A corvette, or a frigate perhaps? I'd like that...

[@KRU63R]

+Tangy Slash You mean like the Federal Corvette and Imperial Cutter?

[@Savsgames]

KRU63R Kinda, maybe a bit bigger; or maybe in the future maybe doing something that can be comparable to a Star Destroyer in scale

[@_Digishade_]

+Tangy Slash Considering the type of flight model they have going on, that's doubtful at the moment. Even the largest ships (Anaconda, Corvette and Cutter) are forced to fly like the ships that are two or three scale sizes below them. That doesn't make them bad, but if you're expecting to just be able to jump into a system and float past a bunch of targets while your guns demolish things around you, E:D isn't that game right now. I don't really know if it will *ever* be like that. Ships have automated turrets you can equip, but they're kinda garbo atm.

[@mr.universe6201]

What happened to freelancer?

[@kael13]

If only trading in this game wasn't dull as sin.

[@JohnMichaelson]

+Kael It's pointless when prices vary so little from system to system even when no one is supplying a station with anything.

[@DrRyan82994]

+Kael Yeah.. I played the game for a while trying to do fun stuff for money, but standard commodity trading is by far the most reliable. I probably traded for 20 hours or so without any drama and got super bored of it, but it seems like the fastest way to get better ships... It'd be cool if the player could do things to affect the markets, like the stock market in GTAV.

[@DrRyan82994]

MrCell2009 cool idea, might try it out

[@MrCell2009]

+DrRyan82994 Good luck to you its kinda difficult to pull off at times but the rewards are good i would also suggest looking for a video that explains how to smuggle if your new to it or your skills got rusty. It really helped me to learn more about it before i dove right in.

[@isorSOT]

+Kael To be honest, it is not the most exciting thing in most space sims.

[@scottbox360]

Probably missing something here, but I have the horizons beta yet nothing is the 10% price, it's all full price, like I said I'm probably missing something

[@cooper5947]

Scott do you play online bud

[@0bsidianas]

i am just into this game and i found few really strong, illogical things and mechanics in this pure fantastic game. For example: ship have a max speed in space (facepalm...it should be max acceleration, not a max speed) maybe ship faces a mind friction?.. another thing, power plant 2E generates 6,4 (mass 2,5 t) aaand 5E generates 13,6 (mass 20 t), maybe i can fit 3 units of 2E plants for more power and lower mass? again, no logic. Just don't tell that is game balance, they should have stronger reason for that :D so what do you think guys?

[@BearcatJohn82]

I need to get back to this game once I upgrade my flightstick. The 10-year-old Logitech stick just ain't doing it justice.

[@aaronlucas6426]

+Canderous92A10 I'm loving my x-52 Pro, handles like a dream. You can also use a gamepad if you have a video game console as well.

[@ArfurFaulkesHake]

I still prefer the Adder over the Hauler, just more versatile

[@dfghj241]

remember a year ago when docking was hard as hell and it kinda became a meme? oh yea... good times.

[@JakeWaffles]

try sorting by "module type"

[@lhl2500]

Cliffhanger! Will our intrepid space trucker make a profit or will he be the victim of the pirat ship "Cygnis Scallywags"! Stay tuned!

[@AiurJordan]

Mored ED please scott!

[@TehMorto]

Man, going to buy this on Steam is a minefield of either great reviews, or terrible ones. It seems that all of the negative reviews of the game have one thing in common. The universe is vast in size and there is nothing to do but spend most of your time in warp travel repeating the same missions over and over again. I really like the game from a visual and sound design perspective. But really don't want to put £60 in a game that has no real gameplay. Still, the base game is £10 until Jan 4th and that is a much more reasonable price as it seems to be exactly the same as Horizons but minus the planet landing and roving. A much more reasonable risk of my money I feel.

[@Falney]

When I see the Hauler I think more a Reliant Robin than a Ford Transit. But that is just me.

[@StandardGoose]

Falney Bedford Rascal

[@Hostilenemy]

Instructions very vague. Got male member stuck in fan.

[@mitchto6433]

No, you did not get money for your free sidewinder, but for the modules you bought and sold with it. Don't you think it's a bit late for a video about trading? Nothing much has changed in Horizons in this area of the game, so it's basically the same as it was one year ago with the release of ED itself.

[@dariusmccormack7793]

sort by name, C is near start.

[@RMJ1984]

9.87 km :P yeah that doesnt get you very far in space at all :D

[@TheRogueWolf]

That's the new "get out and push" drive.

[@cakelesscoder9562]

5,000 for a hauler.... we can only dream now. bounties got me an eagle in 5 minutes though.

[@Dahhhher]

AlTair Means "The Bird"

[@ItsCith]

"Trading is like the meat and potatoes of what Elite is". Then it is sad how frustratingly basic the design aspects is with trading in Elite...