Elite: Dangerous - Imperial Eagle v. Haz RES

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WiggyB

WiggyB

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@star_reshiram
@star_reshiram 4 жыл бұрын
I just love the Imperial Eagle for its design and the fact that its boosting sound effect is an eagle’s cry
@DarkEclipse223
@DarkEclipse223 4 жыл бұрын
I own one
@iwuanadie1058
@iwuanadie1058 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's literally a soccer whistle lmaooo
@wlageg9460
@wlageg9460 2 жыл бұрын
That is because the eagle underneath that imperial finish is crying for help
@lennyvee5735
@lennyvee5735 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, you beat an Anaconda in an Imp Eagle.....with no shields. That is awesome
@pawn6
@pawn6 7 ай бұрын
I beat a federal corvette with eagle that has 700 hull and 31 shield
@Jarfla
@Jarfla 7 жыл бұрын
I love flying the imperial eagle, it’s a ship that I just can’t help but love it. But when I saw you running an eagle with plasma and dual rail guns and no heat sinks I thought ‘what! Are you crazy! I used one rail gun and that my eagle into an oven!’ But the change of perspective from a different cmdr really highlights the floors and makes me want to re think about my own build for this ship. o7 cmdr. Job well done.
@GuardianCitadel
@GuardianCitadel 7 жыл бұрын
Running shieldless with vastly overengineered power plants have the benefit of amazing heat tolerance. Even with hardpoints deployed, he was barely using half his available power. Running shieldless is a bit counter-intuitive for most small ship pilots, but, lets face it: If you're getting hit in something that small, shields aren't going to help you much. The downside of the demonstration is the need for massive engineering modifications to make the I-eagle even viable for a master pilot. it's a pretty poor choice for an average one, but the armor-over-shields approach was still interesting.
@thekingofcartoons9027
@thekingofcartoons9027 6 жыл бұрын
If a ship require engineering to use it's a piece of shit. Viper 3 all day babay
@valorin5762
@valorin5762 7 жыл бұрын
Khajiit haz wares if you Haz Res!
@sneakycactus8815
@sneakycactus8815 6 жыл бұрын
Valorin nice one
@cmdrwaylander1213
@cmdrwaylander1213 7 жыл бұрын
OMG you put my piloting skills to shame. Another great video CMDR.
@Angelis99
@Angelis99 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great showing and now nearly 18 months later would love to see an updated build and a revisit to the IEagle!!
@ZaphkieI
@ZaphkieI 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet, got the load out- Now I just need to get good at being a combat pilot.
@vitskr1
@vitskr1 5 жыл бұрын
Every time i watch your videos i almost feel like i'm playing different game. All ships i'm fighting are just freaking ninjas, it's impossible to stay behind in any ship
@headoftaxreformandpercenta4908
@headoftaxreformandpercenta4908 7 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy. Incredible flying. I'm still only halfway through Expert and have recently taken up combat as a serious focus (as in, not mindlessly flying around resource sites snagging easy kills from security). I got an FAS fitted with rails and PAs in an attempt to really focus on the important aspects of combat aka staying in an advantageous position. It's so much fun and challenging and feels good knowing I have so much left to improve. I feel like I can truly earn what it means to be Dangerous or above some day with the help of videos like yours.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I know what you mean about earning Dangerous. There are still loads of commanders who fly rings around me - so I'm still learning too.
@ElecManEXE
@ElecManEXE 7 жыл бұрын
Ace flying with no FA-off shenanigans. I need to learn how to fly like this in my small ships, I can't do FA-off but this makes it look like you don't even have to, which is nice. Very impressive. Hopefully I can learn some tricks from it. Though not having engineered equipment probably doesn't help either. Still have a long ways to go before I can unlock all that craziness.
@WingManFang1
@WingManFang1 3 жыл бұрын
Love it 😍 I just finished building my racer and wanted to work on my fighter version, gonna save this video to watch again later so I can test out the build. 💙
@casbalti
@casbalti 7 жыл бұрын
My goodness you are an awesome pilot!!! I never want to have to fight against you! But am increasingly envious of your awesome skills!
@mikenortheast6393
@mikenortheast6393 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Loving how much work you're putting in to these - must have bought those special effects with rep which I've never considered doing. Looking forward to getting back from the Enigma Expedition and trying this out...
@lforlilac2377
@lforlilac2377 7 жыл бұрын
I've been flying in NETO for a few weeks now with one of my buddies, a lot of fun. this is our first system that we have really spent time on.
@NTJ666
@NTJ666 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I've seen a few of your vids now and they are very clear and easy to understand. I'm just learning hasrez in the python it's quite a challenge if you take on too much. I'm looking forward to taking the chieftain in to hasrez.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 6 жыл бұрын
I've had an Imperial Eagle in my storage for the past 2 months, worth 1.4 million with everything added on. Now I'm a bit excited to try it out. Never thought ED would excite me
@TeddyLindsell
@TeddyLindsell 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Wiggy..you certainly rose to the challenge 👍..from purely a pilots viewpoint, to me that’s real combat, where your skills win the fight rather than your ship..much more smiles per mile in something so fragile as an ieagle...I took mine down to SAN Tu , the medical research facility...it’s truly a joy to fly , I will certainly be refitting it with fixed weapons. Thank you Wiggy...fly safe Cmdr 😊
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful. Definitely smiles per mile making this video. I'll be spending a good bit of time in an iEagle from now on. Time to really polish the build.
@pookiipower435
@pookiipower435 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this game. ANY ship can be viable. Specially now with engineers. Nice flying! Imperial ships are hands down my favorite. :)
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I really enjoy trying to find a style that works for each build. Time to do some videos on bigger ships though.
@user-pt3rj6dx3k
@user-pt3rj6dx3k 6 жыл бұрын
Pookii Power except for a type 6 that thing is just useless for other things then low level trading
@Johnnymagnet92
@Johnnymagnet92 4 жыл бұрын
Imperial Eagle was my second combat ship, rail guns and a gimballed beam with thermal vent. Nice little build but trying something new now.
@bookie60
@bookie60 6 жыл бұрын
love your videos. i hope one day my pilot skills will be up to the point that i can try out some of your builds.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
Just practice and learning how things work. Vertical thrusters and throttle management are the key to good positioning.
@oisnowy5368
@oisnowy5368 5 жыл бұрын
Loved it. My smallest (size-wise) ship is an Imperial Courier. It's a total cooker and has to do everything fast (except for taking down opponents). The thing has 468 top speed and almost 700 boost with two beams and a rail gun. Rails still needs a lot of practice on my part and I also need to get a bit better at anticipating when I should dodge because one ram in that thing ... even against another Courier that's down at 4% hull .... takes off the shields and half my health. Oh and fuel scooping is a roller-coaster ride. Scoops quickly and heats up even faster, so it's just burst through the sun's outer layer, fetch the fire extinguishers and cool off and repeat.
@DanTKD87
@DanTKD87 7 жыл бұрын
Wow that was awesome. Think I'll start trying some small ships. Subscribed
@Sismodium
@Sismodium 6 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a piloting God! I would love to see a video on how you train your piloting skills to be so good. Most of the time I end up in a joust, and well... you know how effective that is.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I've been avoiding that topic as there are far better pilots than me out there. Being in command of the editing software makes a world of difference to how I look when flying! Plus Vindicator Jones did a pretty good job of it an year or so back. Check out his thrusters and advanced manoeuvring videos. Really good stuff and very similar to the way I fly.
@hughjardon3538
@hughjardon3538 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I've been using an Imperial Eagle with class 1 pulse lasers in a high RES. I noticed that, like when using a Sidewinder, the NPCs don't shoot back if the feds shoot them first, so it gives you a sort of god-mode.
@asingularcheesepuff6383
@asingularcheesepuff6383 6 жыл бұрын
David Hess I've noticed a similar effect, but to me it seems that the NPCs prioritize firing back at the target that's dealing the most damage to them. I've had fights where my SLF will be zipping around chipping off the enemie's shield and hull, but they will focus exclusively on me if I keep my fire focused on them.
@renovatiovr
@renovatiovr 6 жыл бұрын
Colonel Crow yes, Elite is using the good old trusty mmorpg aggro system, where the biggest threat to it or the biggest benefactor to the biggest threat are targetted first
@asingularcheesepuff6383
@asingularcheesepuff6383 6 жыл бұрын
RENOVATIO Kinda makes sense. Still, it's very useful to exploit with SLFs. :3
@fernmiranda
@fernmiranda 3 жыл бұрын
Imp eagle is on my top three favorite ships. It’s such a fun ship to fly but I’m no good at combat and everyone always says how bad it is as a fighter. Holy smokes guy! You gave me hope.
@Hardbootbu
@Hardbootbu 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice , you should enjoy Imperial courrier , about the same size , very hard to find a proper set up , too many internal compare to the Ieagle .
@Ironislander4302
@Ironislander4302 5 жыл бұрын
Got one as my first ship (after sidewinder) it's good to know that given enough time and upgrades I may have a decent ship!
@Johnnymagnet92
@Johnnymagnet92 4 жыл бұрын
If you intend on combat make sure it's the Imperial Eagle and not the regular Eagle. You could do it in a regular, but you'd be losing a hardpoint
@xX4T3Xx
@xX4T3Xx 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see another PBSF CMDR! For Bob! o7
@deansongberg6891
@deansongberg6891 7 жыл бұрын
Very impressed wiggy. You have definitely inspired me to get into some small ship combat. Your videos are very informative. Keep up the great work !
@pookiipower435
@pookiipower435 4 жыл бұрын
Looooove imperial ships! The Courier is a beast of a little ship as well. That is why I love Elite. ANY ship can be viable if the pilot is skilled enough. :)
@Johnnymagnet92
@Johnnymagnet92 4 жыл бұрын
Still...I wouldn't edge my bets in a Hauler lol
@BariiAlyn
@BariiAlyn 7 жыл бұрын
That ship is buff as all hell. I'm tempted to try it (once I get the engineers unlocked for it) as it look like a lot of fun. My main Haz Res ship is a Viper Mk3 with pulse, and multi-cannons. Never tried rails and I think I'll swap out the multi's to try the out.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Rails can be great but they do take lots of practice. Have fun.
@oreste1964
@oreste1964 Жыл бұрын
it's a wonderful ship, I like the weapons positioned very close together, not like in the Courier. I put the advanced engines in mine which make it even more agile but consume. Your build left me perplexed by the lack of shield but with the advanced engines may be a positive thing so I save energy. In any case I should get used to the idea of being left without a shield, maybe with all that armor it won't be so bad, I'll have to try.
@cmdrterrorfirma4244
@cmdrterrorfirma4244 7 жыл бұрын
fun video... nice to see how the smaller ships can tackle larger opponents.
@GRDwashere
@GRDwashere 5 жыл бұрын
I'm subbing on the strength of this video alone..... Great flying! very inspirational.... I'd love for you to revisit this ship now at the end of 2019 after all the changes that have happened since you made this video. I'm currently flying a Chieftain trying to develop my piloting skills. It has 2 large PAs 1 med PA and 3 small gimballed beams, and biweave shields. it's a great combat ship, far more capable than I am right now. I'm going to build out an eagle the same as yours in order to develop my piloting skills further. One tip i pecked up is not boosting during combat because it puts you back out into the line of fire and into a jousting situation, which I'm also experiencing.
@randomv3iwer
@randomv3iwer 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of the comments on this video. You do make it look like this is a very different game. Excellent job, commander. I thought it would be suicide to go out downtown hunting in a small ship with no shield, but I am glad I was wrong
@roseco581
@roseco581 5 жыл бұрын
I do stacked massacre missions solo in Krait MK2, 1 L beam, 2 M beams to strip shield, 2 L MC to shred hulls (on bigger ships usually), a 6C biweave, 6B SCB, 3 OA Shield boosters, and basically never go under shields, and zero downtime for next fight.
@Reginaldesq
@Reginaldesq 7 жыл бұрын
Good video and some very nice piloting
@davido9208
@davido9208 5 жыл бұрын
That was quite impressive. I have to try it out.
@duke7052
@duke7052 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you have any power play weapons but a really fun has res built is a Vulture with 2X pacifiers. I went with overcharged/incendiary and it melts shields. It works really well for PVP too. Got me a deadly anaconda yesterday!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Advanced plasmas work great too.
@duke7052
@duke7052 7 жыл бұрын
WiggyB they're next on my list! Cheers!
@ecob2529
@ecob2529 7 жыл бұрын
Nice flying Wiggy. If you want core dynamic composites try Fed system in state:none. This means you won't get all the other mats found in a boom but CDC's still spawn so the chance of getting CDC's is much higher.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I'll give that a go.
@KABBARANKS
@KABBARANKS 7 жыл бұрын
I usually go to Fed - Election. Seems to work pretty well. 👍
@ecob2529
@ecob2529 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah same idea I think. Election systems are neutral for other materials too so you should only get CDC's and Propriety Composites. Inara seems to be wrong for some mats.
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 7 жыл бұрын
In my experience, when you want core dynamics composites, pretend you're really engineering lightweight and go out searching for proto radiolic alloys - the game will detect this intention, the task execution obstruction subroutines will kick into action, and all you'll bleedin' well get is core dynamics composites!
@KABBARANKS
@KABBARANKS 7 жыл бұрын
😂
@Chiefpilot414
@Chiefpilot414 5 жыл бұрын
i found that i also use boost too little when "jousting" as you called it, which i will from now on as well. I suppose I dont realize the advantages to the boosting in thruster direction while tunneled on my enemy. Excellent content
@TheHelix123
@TheHelix123 5 жыл бұрын
13 mins for a single fight?? Ya my eagle dreams are out the window.
@SoliaOrganization
@SoliaOrganization 7 жыл бұрын
I love the iEagle - best ship 10/10 with low rebuy and enough slots to get you (almost) anywhere, unfortunately the one I have now has the most sucky jump range in the galaxy cuz Im too lazy to grind for engineers.
@Fragtastik
@Fragtastik 7 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that engineering is a massive time sink. The barrier to entry for it is stupid.
@brixomatic
@brixomatic 7 жыл бұрын
I'm flying an Imperial Eagle pirate/smuggler - no shields, all weapons modified to be as efficient as can be (1 pulse, 2 multis, all gimballed), engineered reactive hull (thermal), some stuff leightweight modded. It has collector and hatch-breaker limpet controllers, a small cargo bay and just one engineered hull reinforcement, there's a very good clean drive tuning, etc. With no shields I can have 3 pips on engines and 3 on weapons and the capacitor never drains. It has a very low heat signature and it's a pretty tough cookie thanks to the well engineered hull, generally, but it's only good against small ships and sometimes lower grade large ones. It always surprises me how fast the really big ships can turn, usually they should not stand a chance against an eagle. Maybe I'm doing something wrong (my speed is well within the blue range and I sometimes help turning by switching flight assist off). Unfortunately, and this is my biggest turn-off, the stealth mechanics don't seem to work properly on NPCs. I can silent run for a minute, but they keep hitting me no matter how I twist and turn. Now, heat sinks are pretty useless on an imp eagle, as they are not enough of them. I'm sporting a defence turrent that proves very valuable against missiles, which (remember my eagle has no shields) are pretty devastating, if they hit. It's a nice challenge and not too annoying if the eagle is lost in battle. For the tough jobs, I still have a pretty brutal Python.
@themustachioedman
@themustachioedman 7 жыл бұрын
How about a cobra mk3, I love flying around in mine and I’m always interested in haz res builds
@hellscorpio82
@hellscorpio82 7 жыл бұрын
Elite FAS and clippers are tough nuts to crack bit i've been able to take out elite conda vettes gunships with ease on the eagle with a multi cannon build engineerd with overcharged incendiary and corrosive rounds.will try a hull tank build like yours it seems interesting as it leaves free pips without wasting them on sys due to no shield recharge
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Yup. Incendiary multis do work well. A super sidey with Enforcer Cannons is a blast in the Has RES. That said, I find that plasmas and rails can kill more ships between station runs.
@daviddoyle2085
@daviddoyle2085 6 жыл бұрын
Personally I haven't yet found a reason to change my viper mk3. It's a cracking little ship and I've torn through big boy ships with ease. Iv equipped 1 med and 1 small burst laser and 1 med and 1 small multi. It's all I've found I need to obliterate ships. It also has enhanced thrusters so I get just over 400 m/s boosted.
@taiming71
@taiming71 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic flying
@TheKodiakalpha
@TheKodiakalpha 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid! Subscribed.
@dominicrobichaud4111
@dominicrobichaud4111 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a beluga, dolphin or orca in the HazRES, if you please... Great video BTW, I have tried the ieagle and the eagle in resource extraction sites before, but no luck. I find it easier to stay behind targets in a gunship, surprisingly.
@jhaybz29
@jhaybz29 6 жыл бұрын
dude... that skill though! you should make guide on how to fly like that!! awesome vid!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I've been avoiding that topic as there are far better pilots than me out there. Being in command of the editing software makes a world of difference to how I look when flying! Plus Vindicator Jones did a pretty good job of it an year or so back. Check out his thrusters and advanced manoeuvring videos. Really good stuff and very similar to the way I fly. Hope that helps. o7
@jhaybz29
@jhaybz29 6 жыл бұрын
alrighty, but man you are still an awesome pilot though! I have this battered Eagle that I fly around in trying to collect some HiRez bounty so I could buy a larger ship to explore on, and I've not been fairing well... I always suddenly gets tagged when I've already collected a sizable bounty... right now I've given up HiRez bounty hunting to doing medical delivery runs but man... honestly the money grinding in this game is soul crushing... I want to keep playing it because its relaxing to get lost in space discovering new planets and stuff but I cant do it on a measly ship.. (I'm currently running on an Eagle, with Viper MK 4 that I keep if ever I zeroed out my credits again because of dying and Type 6 I used to do delivery runs, I get tagged often though and interdicted and I've lost at least 3 Type 6's and a couple more millions) Any tips you can give as a beginner? Maybe a ship that you can recommend? something that can go long distance and carry a sizable cargo but still good enough to defend itself? or maybe a safe trading route for my current Type6? (I can hold around 96 units as of now and Im currently headed to RMK 6 to deliver medicine ( I also have horizons so I can land on planets but prospecting have not been very good with me)
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
As a beginner you're best doing courier missions. Keep doing missions for the same faction and you'll end up allied. The rewards grow as you rank up. I'd also suggest joining a faction. Go to INARA.cz and you can browse all the groups. Find one you like the sound of. I'm sure you'll get players to help you and wing up with.
@jhaybz29
@jhaybz29 6 жыл бұрын
alrighty! will do that, the Medical supply run (although boring as heck) is damn lucrative O__O I cant even believe it O__O I'm upgrading to an Asp Ex now with A3 shields (so it has more cargo) maybe I'll go back to Eranin and yeah do some Courier Missions, I once saw a courier mission go for 1m pay reward, I'll also look into joining a faction thanks man :)
@danielstokker
@danielstokker 3 жыл бұрын
Since im not that good of a pilot im might try it with a heat venting beam in class 2 slot and 2 rails might have to rethink the armor to and see how many hitpoint i can get out of a shield
@TNTom67890
@TNTom67890 7 жыл бұрын
When looking fore core dynamics... do not go to a boom state, you will get more composite drops.
@arcticgaming1970
@arcticgaming1970 6 жыл бұрын
I think this guys Imperial Eagle is able to survive more fire then I can as I dont even have the confidence to take the final trio on with my conda... Great video though
@brandonvanharen2552
@brandonvanharen2552 7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, subbed.
@WatersEdge337
@WatersEdge337 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Wiggy. I just found your channel, and really enjoyed the video. I did have a question, though. In the beginning of the last fight, both of the clippers were laying into you with their weapons as you took down your first target. Was it the reactive bulkheads that allowed you to survive that kind of attack without shields?
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Lots of armour and never fly in a straight line. The first helps survive hits, the second avoids being hit. Make sure your hull resistances are all positive and reasonably balanced. Use chaff.
@chrisjones-dj6lb
@chrisjones-dj6lb 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid Cmdr, like you I have an Imperial Eagle and have used it as a canyon racer, I have the enhanced performance thrusters on mine and wonder if you'd tried these but decided against them for some reason. I think I shall have to take another look at the Imperial Eagle. I love the small ships and frequently use a Viper mkIII in the has rez for fun and shinanigans, it can ( eventually) take down Anacondas and the larger ships without too much trouble but other smaller ships can be more problematic. I have bi-weave shields, rather than a full hull tank, with twin efficient beams and twin sturdy mount rails. I don't remember if there are secondary effects on the beams but the rails are super penetrator and feedback cascade like yours, lethal. Small ships can be so much fun and a challenge with a low rebuy should it all go pear shaped. I would urge all Cmdrs to keep at least one small ship in their fleet just for fun. Keep up the good work Cmdr wiggyb.
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 7 жыл бұрын
Playing in VR. I still hope in the regular old Eagle for a good time. Ship is a blast
@tillwege
@tillwege 7 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you go for the enhanced thrusters?
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
You gain speed with enhanced thrusters but at the expense of pitch and roll. I much prefer agility over velocity.
@taotoo2
@taotoo2 7 жыл бұрын
Preferring agility and having a 113 ton iEagle are mutually exclusive! Lose some weight and the EPTs will come alive. Perhaps a hybrid with small biweaves and lightweight armour/HRPs.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Ha! Harsh but fair. I basically built this ship and then filmed with it. You're absolutely right, it could lose some weight and would perform better. That said, it usually surprises me how little speed you actually gain by removing mass.
@TestTheAcid
@TestTheAcid 7 жыл бұрын
FA OFF
@TestTheAcid
@TestTheAcid 7 жыл бұрын
i killed vettes solo in my Imp in CZ's lol you can 180 half twist and flip from eitherside with FA OFF
@davidkennedy6208
@davidkennedy6208 7 жыл бұрын
Great build, and you've got some flying skills there. I'm slowly improving but not a patch on you. o7 Commander!!!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
I went through all the ships when I started and ended up flying Condas and Corvettes. Skill required to make use of all the toys effectively, but not much piloting needed. Watching Cillit Bang/Archon Fury and a few others really changed Elite for me. My first fights in hull tanks were rather pathetic, but once you get the hang of not getting shot they are addictive.
@davidkennedy6208
@davidkennedy6208 7 жыл бұрын
WiggyB thanks a lot mate. I've got the basics (been playing since May and Dangerous) but when i see guys flying like you i realise how far i need to go. I play in Solo at the min, but want to take the step into Open. But ive seen how much better i need to get, so i can have a chance and hold my own. I'll defo check the other channels out (pretty sure ive seen Cillit bang already) I need to perfect the FA off art, and to make much better use of thrusters. Thanks again o7 Commander!!!
@JimVR
@JimVR 6 жыл бұрын
Nice shootin' tex! I personally love the eagle, in VR it's a thrill ride, I'm intrigued by this build and I'm going to give it, or something very similar a try. Incidentally, how do you find the handling of the imperial eagle vs the normal eagle? The normal eagle with G5 dirty thrusters will pull my eyes out on a boost turn, but I've never tried the Imperial eagle.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a standard eagle with advanced thrusters which I used for racing with other players. Great fun. For combat the problem is the same though. The boost is so savage that you end up far from the target and a sitting duck. Good fun but risky!
@dominategaming4775
@dominategaming4775 2 жыл бұрын
that ninja tricking is cause they prioritize on engine more when shields down... and the fact that they play generally more agressive when shields down
@cmdrwraithe1857
@cmdrwraithe1857 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much this would be improved if revisited now.
@nanotv2318
@nanotv2318 7 жыл бұрын
what engineer engineers railguns and plasma acc?
@TheMHohSoma
@TheMHohSoma 7 жыл бұрын
nice vid, would love to see you do similar stuff in a cobra III/IV :)
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Wiggy - I bought and modded a couple of small rails (already had the dispersal plasma) and had a go with your build - I note you said you didn't use MRP because you don't get module-sniped and you prefer more hull. Do you have any tips for avoiding being module-sniped because when I'm running this fit I am always bailing due to modules being taken out and still have hull to spare! I'm trying to work on a) getting fewer missed plasma shots, (although I'm happy to find I get decent hit-rate with the rails) and b) getting better at staying above/behind/below, but I struggle with just doing b) on it's own, let alone b) combined with a)!! I can say having tried this fit...you made it look easier than it is!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Hi K1lostream. Great to hear that you're giving this a go. Just remember - this series is supposed to give you new challenges! The most important thing is learning to stay out of the fire arc. I'm assuming that you're not fighting wings just yet. This is all about thruster management and throttle control. You have to be continually adjusting for the position and vector of your target. If you've a choice between shooting and dodging, I'd go with dodging almost every time. Save chaff until you really need it. Don't dump chaff if you're temporarily crossing the path of the other ship. Wait until you're stuck out in front and need several seconds to re-position. The easiest of the 3 ships to master is the Vulture. This has the best vertical thrusters and the boost isn't too savage, meaning you can boost dodge without ending up 2k from the target. I've been doing this a while and struggled hugely at first, but when it finally clicked the improvement was rapid. Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more specific questions if you still need help. (For what it's worth, I'm going through the same learning curve with full time FA off at the moment!) o7
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the swift reply! - errr yeah, I'm totally going for wings at the moment! I'll take lone ships if they're about, but sometimes there aren't! I decided to try for moar speed and some module protection, so I fitted a toasty power plant, the EPT's and a class 2 MRP - my build's currently looking like this: eddp.co/u/K8K4xJNs - I'm getting kills, and module damage is less bad, but keep having to run away to repair still! - I'll select for lone targets for a while, and practice that continual adjustment - Thanks for the tips!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, that explains it! If you're going for wings, scan all the ships before you engage and kill anything with rails or seeker missiles first. They're usually the module sniping culprits. This build was anything but optimised so I'm glad to hear that you're improving on it.
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 7 жыл бұрын
WiggyB -Well, I'd recently been out hunting for pharmaceutical isolators, and consequently got loads of core dynamics composites instead, so I was able to mod the armour! And thanks for the module scanning and target prioritisation tips - I had not been doing that.
@brunojurican6197
@brunojurican6197 7 жыл бұрын
Why 3A thrusters insted of Enchanced preformance ones?
@michaelbacon5278
@michaelbacon5278 7 жыл бұрын
Wiggy B I love these videos. I've been thinking about putting together a missiles only (probably dumbfire) build for a while, just for kicks. What ship would you use if you were doing that, do you think?
@hakunai7227
@hakunai7227 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone think these two rails would work with my hounds? Its grade 5 high mag + thermal shock but its the only engineered gear i have for now.
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 4 жыл бұрын
I dont like going for repairs all the time (especially when undermining), so i fitted guardian shield boosters on most of my internals (just have a class 3 biweave and a 2A fuel scoop), and a shield booster with heat-resistance in the utility slot. I tried using long range burst lasers, but they depleted the capacitor pretty fast, so i will probably switch to "efficient" bursts instead. The combat in this ship was a long and painstaking process. Im used to the Krait MK2 with all long range gimballed burst lasers, but thats almost too easy... The Mamba with some fixed lasers and a rail is more of a "middle ground" challenge. It has very little heat-capacity, but a large beam with heat vents made it a LOT better... Kinda wish the turn rate was at least a LITTLE better though... After all, it is the "sports car" edition in this game, and you would think it had a pretty good turn radius, and not feel almost a bit "sluggish"... Its not too bad though...
@me7alangel
@me7alangel 6 жыл бұрын
This is nuts. I've piggybacked a lot of kills with an eagle, but getting the kills by yourself? Not to mention taking on a whole wing by yourself? Absolute nuts.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
Good fun once you get the hang of it. Position is everything. Just look out for ships with missiles if you run without shields!
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 6 жыл бұрын
I really have a hard time staying behind ships even using thrusters and such exactly as you do. I foten find they do a full "bullshit" flip these days and my laterals barely move me in the DBS and Imp Eagle despite both ships being heaviliy engineered for speed. My imp eagle can pull 800 m/s and many ships can still flip on me. Did fdev change something in the AI? I've seen them pull crazy tunrs in SC as well, turns that arn't possible in smaller and more manuevrable ships.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I find advanced thrusters are simply too fast to stay behind much slower NPC targets. That's why I use standard thrusters on my iEagle. Advanced also seem to slide a lot more. DBS thrusters are a weak point sadly. Vulture is much better.
@dhanushdayanand3076
@dhanushdayanand3076 4 жыл бұрын
do you use a joy stick or a keyboard mouse setup?.........terrific fighting by the way. you motivated me to fly the I.eagle
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I actually fly with an Xbox Elite controller. both for PC and Xbox. My bindings are quite heavily customised, with strafe and throttle being bound to buttons on the bottom letting me control all 6 degrees of freedom whilst also shooting.
@dhanushdayanand3076
@dhanushdayanand3076 4 жыл бұрын
@@WiggyB okay....I hope you keep making videos on obsolete ships
@Roguey
@Roguey 7 жыл бұрын
impressive, I would of thought that the little eagle wouldnt survive long, let alone take down 3 winged ships. nice going cmd o7
@asheler1
@asheler1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m curious why wouldn’t put shields on this build since it appeared you had the power to spare and that would give you the ability to absorb some of the more minor damage? Definitely cool to see such a small ship take on wings and win!
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I find it much more fun to dodge and to fly my ships to the limit of their ability. Shields take power, slow you down and reduce the skill required. I've been playing since the game was launched and PvE is simply getting too easy. I'm also not a fan of PvP due to the salty nature of the encounters. Small ships with no shields add spice back to the game as I take damage and occasionally die. I cap pop over to the RES in my FDL or Corvette any time I want to but the appeal is minimal. Have a look at my no hit challenge video, no shields AND no hull reinforcements! That's my idea of fun combat.
@edstretton2214
@edstretton2214 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but it's interesting that you didn't comment on enhanced performance thrusters. Even for a build that requires cool modules, aren't they just a straight upgrade if you have the power plant for them?
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Personal preference, but I've never been a fan. I use them on my super sidey but didn't bother here. This build was knocked together quickly over a couple of days. The reason I'm not keen on them is I find that when I boost I end up too far away from my target. Staying close is very tricky. The flight back is then rather damaging. This is obviously a function of my flight style. Give them a try, you might like them.
@gregstravelvlog4766
@gregstravelvlog4766 4 жыл бұрын
Is there an updated version of this ship? 👀
@SoliaOrganization
@SoliaOrganization 6 жыл бұрын
what engineer mod you have on the power module?
@armax4282
@armax4282 3 жыл бұрын
I just started playing recently, I’m amazed, I don’t know how to fly like that, I always lose my objective from sight and somehow end on the enemy fire line
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 3 жыл бұрын
When you're outgunned, position is far more important that shooting. Spend your time getting behind or above your target, then shoot. If you're loosing position, stop shooting and get out of the way. Lots of practice also helps!
@armax4282
@armax4282 3 жыл бұрын
@@WiggyB Thank you! I'll practice
@darkestfugue
@darkestfugue 4 жыл бұрын
amazing pilot, this game is down to the skills of the pilot rather than the ships
@berengerchristy6256
@berengerchristy6256 6 жыл бұрын
this game must be amazing with hotas, vr, and an agile ship
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I've not played it in VR, but everyone I've talked to who has says the sense of scale is incredible. And that driving the SRV makes you puke.
@berengerchristy6256
@berengerchristy6256 6 жыл бұрын
oh god I forgot about the srv
@Bluefork
@Bluefork 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I had half your piloting skills, think i'll dust off the old sidewinder (very cheap rebuys) and give this ago looks like a lot of fun :)
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Editing does wonders for making me look good. Try two enforcers on your sidey. Great fun.
@captainpike332
@captainpike332 7 жыл бұрын
Would this build or something similar be possible in Mark 2 Eagle as opposed to the Imperial variant?
@ichor732
@ichor732 2 жыл бұрын
I find myself needing point defense for npc missile racks or it’s game over for my Imp eagle
@Aristocrafied
@Aristocrafied 6 жыл бұрын
Jezus boss flying!! treat yourself to a Track IR man I bet you would enter into the realm of gods with the added situational awareness
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly no track IR on Xbox! I'm not too bad against NPCs but suck at PvP. Just one of those things.
@Aristocrafied
@Aristocrafied 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like its time to get yo ass a PC, a dual stick setup and a TrackIR then hahaha
@Nabekukka
@Nabekukka 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, this build got me curious and I think I'm going to try it. I've not dabbled with PA's or rails all that much so it's going to be a fun learning experience. One question though, you have the Plasma engineered to Efficient obviously for heat issues, but the rails for sturdy? I can see that sturdy mounts also decrease the thermal load, but is there a reason you went specifically for sturdy instead of efficient?
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
There isn't an efficient rail mod. I've since been told that you can get an equivalent reduced thermal load secondary effect using the long range mod. I haven't tried this yet though - but this would be lighter weight. I do like using sturdy mount on shield-less ships because it improves integrity and stops the weapon being knocked out by incoming fire. As the size ones on an iEagle are on the bottom, this is less of an issue for this particular ship. Lots of compromises to play with... Have fun building your ship and learning to hit with rails and PAs! You'll certainly have a "learning experience". o7
@DanTKD87
@DanTKD87 7 жыл бұрын
Franklin Romines yes they're getting rid of them. A lot of changes coming to engineers
@K1lostream
@K1lostream 7 жыл бұрын
Yep I heard that too - although to be clear, that is the secondary modifers you get after the primary rolls - they're not getting rid of special abilities - I have encountered more than one person who'd misunderstood that and thought it was the specials that were going. Also I'm not sure if the secondary rolls are truly 'going' - hopefully the secondary values are simply factored into the primary roll and the adjusted final figure displayed up front, otherwise there'll be no hope of ever modifiying anything better than we've already got!
@npbwolf
@npbwolf 7 жыл бұрын
can u do the eagle build
@prefontaine9940
@prefontaine9940 7 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to you but in your home page no videos are shown, they are visible only when I clicked "videos". Is that a bug on my part (browser etc.) or you just don't want to edit that page?
@DanTKD87
@DanTKD87 7 жыл бұрын
prefontaine I noticed the same thing
@darkestfugue
@darkestfugue 5 жыл бұрын
incredible flying i dont know how you do it
@Exalted_Example
@Exalted_Example 6 жыл бұрын
Any reason you didn't get the enhanced performance thrusters?
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
The extra speed is excessive. Boosting places you too far away and in the sights of your enemy. I've tried enhanced thrusters with clean and dirty tuning and stock and prefer standard drives.
@Exalted_Example
@Exalted_Example 6 жыл бұрын
ah! I run a similar build to yours, though i run a turreted beam with thermal vent on top (it's a silent running build). Useless for pve, but it's for module sniping cargo ships in powerplay. Still needs a lot of work though, nothing except ego to stop them from just returning to SC.
@GManWrites
@GManWrites 7 жыл бұрын
Very impressive.
@TestTheAcid
@TestTheAcid 7 жыл бұрын
not really , even easier FA OFF, Conflict zoning Vettes 🙂
@ICKY427
@ICKY427 6 жыл бұрын
This is why i love my 8 gimbal multi conda. My piloting skills are next to none so all i have to do is keep them in front of me for a few seconds and theyre done. Also why i dont pvp, real pilots would know how to out maneuver me and id never get a shot in.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I got my first conda only having used gimbals too. The standard Elite progression: start in a sidey > race to the biggest ship and get bored > buy ever smaller ships and start using fixed weapons > get better at piloting until you can kill everything in a sidey! (Yes, you can kill anacondas in a sidey)
@vnelson000
@vnelson000 7 жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate your own combat skilz, because of your skilz, you can do better than most in such an imperial eagle.
@fluffypinkpandas
@fluffypinkpandas 6 жыл бұрын
>when you played incursion with eagles back when you could.
@pukalo
@pukalo 5 жыл бұрын
Should've visited Palin or Farseer and bought 3A Enhanced Performance Thrusters to go way faster.
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 5 жыл бұрын
I have several sets but don't like them for combat. Agility is traded for speed.
@pukalo
@pukalo 5 жыл бұрын
@@WiggyB I know what you mean. I have a Viper Mk III that I built for racing and at 700+ m/s the counterthrusters don't do anything so it's as if flight assist doesn't work.
@MeNeXzPnz
@MeNeXzPnz 5 жыл бұрын
why does the chaff launcher has damage falloff wtf
@ufcgod6258
@ufcgod6258 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video wiggy m8 but i know you love ya vulture lol o7
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 7 жыл бұрын
I was out in my APA vulture last night. She's still my favourite, you're right.
@jairusswint6703
@jairusswint6703 7 жыл бұрын
Ive never known the viability of hull tanks
@lithari1480
@lithari1480 6 жыл бұрын
I wish i knew how you do so well to keep ships in your sights, cause even in a vulture, i couldn't keep a freighter in my sights, it out-turned me......but then again, i am not using a HOTAS, i tried it when my brother was here with his, but it just didn't feel right. I can turn better with a mouse and keyboard, i just don't know how everyone turns so fast and keeps targets in their crosshairs. I tried the Imperial Eagle to see how it compared to the Original Eagle.....i died just as quick as i did in the eagle, but i never tried the weapons you used, since as i said, i have trouble keeping them in my crosshairs, so fixed weapons are a waste for me. Awesome video, though it made another case of me just outright sucking. lol I love the whole combat aspect of this game, but my ability to turn fast without leaving my ship open to being obliterated in seconds is the main problem. I mean, i have a Vulture, A-Spec'd right now and i can afford to rebuy several times, but i have trouble staying in a safe position of the target, no matter what it is. I can understand if a more agile ship was able to do it, but the bulkier ones??? it just makes me feel like a failure. lol
@WiggyB
@WiggyB 6 жыл бұрын
It's just practice and gentle use of the inputs. Use up and down thrust to widen or tighten your turns. Avoid boosting as this tends to get you out of immediate bother but then leave you in a worse place later on. Vindicator Jones has some good tutorials on how to stay behind a target. I've also got some practice tips in my no hit challenge video. Hope that helps.
@lithari1480
@lithari1480 6 жыл бұрын
I tried out your hull tanking vulture and actually took out a anaconda and other ships.....ALOT faster than i would have with the default pulse lasers with shields....it really helped me out. It is annoying with the fixed weaponry though, i miss alot.
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