Elite Dangerous in 2025 - MAJOR New Update & Thoughts On NEXT Content

[@Cmdr_Amethyst]

You keep beating the drum for ship interiors my lad, you'll get my vote EVERY time =D

[@therealjamespickering]

At the very least, you should be able to get to the coffee machine.

[@moviesandvisualfx5663]

Star Citizen WILL die in 2025 .ELITE needs INTERIORS then SC will DIE instantly///

[@mirandela777]

@@therealjamespickering - Starfield allow you to build a ship then give you some 5-10 000 things to put inside... ED is 20 years behind, for how many years we ask for ships interiors ??

[@anonymousskunk]

Count me in on that, too!

[@urazz7739]

Ship interiors would be nice, but it isn't the most important thing for me. Still at this point I think Frontier should do ship interiors.

[@robwainfur2073]

New ObsidianAnt Drinking Game - Take a swig every time he starts a sentence with "Now..."

[@rochi343]

Death

[@Hardlinerjapan]

"XXXXXX, then,"

[@mostly-harmless]

now... so... and... in this video...

[@zaldronthesage]

AND YEAH

[@EyesFoward]

Now, what "Drinking" got to do with it?

[@harrasika]

I'd also like to see atmospheric planets the most. I love exploring in the game, but it ends up feeling very cold with every planet being barren. Would love to be able to explore a cozy forest or to just watch as waves hit the shore of a beach. And maybe study some cute or scary animals.

[@judgeberry6071]

Yeah if they merged elements of NMS into Elite we would probably be looking at a near-perfect space game.

[@FreelancerFreak]

It doesn't even need to be a lot of planets. 10 habitable planets would be fine.

[@Jeremy-k9t]

@@FreelancerFreak Why only 10? They just need a NMS style system that generates unique life forms and biomes. They can have millions of planets with no atmosphere, they can have the same with.

[@_blankface]

​@Jeremy-k9t they would have to develop an entirely new game , you don't just "throw" procedurally generated assets into a 15 year old game. They would probably have yo rewrite half of their code just so it all works together And also if you actually play NMS , you get tired of the animals because they're all the same once you've seen one you've seen them all

[@lanceobe6801]

Without a doubt they need to have thicker atmospheric worlds to explore with weather. And I agree, dangerous animals or even Flora would be a nice welcome for explorers. I think it would be extremely fun to enter an atmosphere that has violent weather or hear your canopy start to collapse because you didn't pay attention to the atmospheric pressure before entering. I think that could open up a whole new level of engineering in order to have Shields that could withstand those pressures. This game has all the potential in the world

[@Mesiter]

For me it is full VR support for Odyssey content.

[@ZZaGGrrUzz]

it's so buggy and janky right now that you would not want to snap vr on top of it...

[@TeddyLindsell]

I fully agree, it “ needs” sorting, I can and do some gameplay in elite, but it should be everywhere in the game not just in the cockpit …I really only use it for ship combat and occasional mining.

[@chrisclark6705]

@@ZZaGGrrUzzLots of people including myself are very excited for vr on the ground so much so we use voice attack as a workaround for commanding the camera to snap into place where it kinda resembles it. It would be incredible having this implemented even with the jank.

[@KitHavok]

An optional 3DOF Helmet View for on-foot..... that's all it would take for me to reinstall.

[@fleetc]

Have you all tried the turret view of the rovers in vr? AMAZING

[@JSRJS]

Ship Interiors and Atmospheric landing....then we can talk

[@goji059]

got it, the buggy mess called SC

[@agentmith]

Yep. Fulfill kickstarter promises first. They also promised an offline single player version of the game, but it seems like that was quietly swept under the rug.

[@korbentherhino]

@@goji059 a game in development without all intended features will be buggy. many think it was a mistake for CIG to let people play the game while its being developed. But it has helped them get the money hey needed. Whether the game ever lives up to the promise is anyones guess. But the bugs are because you dont refine while you are still developing the code.

[@TheSahloknir]

Nobody that plays elite for real wants this bs

[@Ebalosus]

While I'd like ship interiors, I'd much prefer full atmospherics myself

[@e2rqey]

Do you think FDev realize there are ways of making engaging content for the game that isn't just another attempt at reframing the same resource grind? They continue to minorly expand the width of the game while doing almost nothing to truly increase the mechanical depth or fundamental possibility space

[@ltpunkrocket522]

We need to keep dumping ideas on them. I think they're at a point where they don't know what that means for ED.

[@squidlybytes]

I mean, the 'goid war was great. But. No idea if they can keep that going.

[@YamGarage]

Too a point, look at sc, it was really fun until they made everything overly complex simply to waste time vs the fluid experience you used to get.

[@underleft]

I'm a life time backer so I've been here since alpha, however I only have 980 hours in game. However, in that time I am Triple Elite, have a fully engineered cutter and krait, fleet carrier, and enough money to fully fund it for 8 years. It blows me away how people have thousands of hours in this game. I just don't see how colonization is going to appeal to the majority of people. It's just another systems like the thousands of others out there. And knowing Fdev, they'll make it prohibitively time and resource heavy.

[@ltpunkrocket522]

@@underleft We straight up just like living out here in the black

[@Zunnk_o]

I wish they'd finish implementing better VR so we're not looking at a grey void with a screen while on foot, it pulls me out of the immersion every time.

[@TheTechnoPilot]

Especially in station!

[@JasonC_5311]

Yes to VR on foot. The lack of that feature is something that is preventing me from coming back more.

[@nicodeboer7429]

@@Zunnk_o havent tried it myself, but you can use the camera suite and when you position the camera right (not letting it freeroam) vr does work. Give it a try.

[@Sloganlogo]

There is a workaround going to 3rd person on foot, using the in built Elite dangerous camera system. not ideal but it does work

[@Carrpocalypse]

@@nicodeboer7429 If this can be done so easily, why not use that as the default on foot experience?

[@e2rqey]

The pessimist in me says, colonization just sounds like taking the gameplay loop of fleet carriers and applying it to systems. The question is if they will be able to actually get the time vs reward balance correctly. Or if we will just get another cool feature in name which doesnt deliver in practice (as usual) The ever so small optimist in the back of my head says this would be a cool way to build out more content for the game. By enabling a whole galaxy of player created content. But then I remember that there isnt a persistent universe. So idk what truly new gameplay this enables. What are we truly getting beyond yet another resource grind??

[@HCforLife1]

I am optimistic about that new feature. I would love to colonize new systems and establish my own structure, and locate settlements by hand. I hope they will add some sort of customization (our own factions, cosmetics etc), but doubt it based on what they shared. I hope for atmospheric planets - this should be there. Probably we will get "thargoids on foot" instead

[@baronjutter]

I bought the game specifically because I'm excited about this feature, but I'm expecting to be massively let down. I'm imagining a massive time and money and resource sink for very little reward, while at the same time the system not really allowing for much customization or choices that make your system feel unique and like something you've designed. If you see 1 player system you've seen them all sort of a situation.

[@DeltaDragon79]

If they are serious about the game they will release these updates less buggy and well optimized. I left the game for years because I found Odysseys release quite frustrating.

[@leebob17]

on foot VR please - i would even pay arx for it at this point

[@zerose7en722]

It's weird considering VR works on foot if you go to the free cam. You'd think it wouldn't be that difficult to just fix that camera to your head.💁‍♂️

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@zerose7en722 it's not VR on foot, it's the full VR support that is hard. if the game simply plays like a normal fps, but with a VR camera, it will not just be incredibly broken, but will also be a vomit machine.

[@farske]

VR is why I play Elite Dangerous. I really hope they fix up AA or tech to make it smoother on the eyes!

[@dustinbaker3420]

VR is the only real reason why I'm playing ED over SC.

[@marionetteworks]

I hope they implement on-foot in VR!

[@Flameancer]

In-foot be would be nice. As it stands I’m tired of having to readjust my display every time I EV.

[@MrMightyZ]

I bought the PSVR2 and I’m so blown away by No Man’s Sky that I have to get a PC now and play Elite in VR. It’s MUCH better than I thought it would be. Every takeoff and every asteroid field and just everything is thrilling. I’ve heard the PSVR2 headset can be used on PC now so I gotta get one

[@CaptainBrash]

I'd love to see exploration and exobiology get some love. Maybe some scientific modules, probes to throw into gas giants etc. basically reasons to go out into the black with a ship that isn't just completely stripped down. I'd love an SLF with a small frame shift drive that you could drop from a larger ship in orbit to land on planets with. Nothing huge, maybe wouldn't fit in the smallest hangar but would fit in the next size up. Atmospheric planets would fit into all this very nicely.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

Great ideas. I've done the highest and lowest systems, the furthest systems out, the ringed earthlikes, the trinary WW's, but reasons to actually get out there and explore the planets themselves have been few and far between. Exo has helped but your suggestions would supercharge that.

[@existentialselkath1264]

Gas giant atmospheres are something I've been hoping for for a while (alongside comets). Headline features asside, I hope they improve existing odyssey content. Visual improvements would be nice to have too. Imo the game would benefit a lot from raytraced shadows for example as it would remove the single star light limitation, as well as showcase a lot more detail in the existing models.

[@YiorKha]

Every time I hear about gas giants atmosphere I remember a "teaser" (which is probably more of a college graduate work, I don't remember) called The leviathan. Of course I'm not actually dreaming about hunting huge creatures in the gas giants atmosphere in Elite, but if the environment itself could be kinda like in that teaser it would be so cool. Some variants of "weather" and probably a goal to go there other than just sightseeing is collecting gas as a new form of resource... Probably, I dunno :p We already were inside maelstrom of the Titans and I think that is very close to what atmospheres of the giants can be like, so its not out the question from the game technical capabilities point of view

[@existentialselkath1264]

@YiorKha the maelstroms also had significant turbulence. Something like that to showcase how windy it would be, even in the upper atmosphere, would be really cool. I agree, they've proven most of the tech they'd need there, I hope it was intentional. As for gameplay, I'd imagine it's be similar to asteroid rings. Some form of resource extraction and bounty hunting.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

@@existentialselkath1264 The problem is they have lost some of the people responsible for that that tech. It was downhill after they lost several core engine devs after the release of Horizons. That is always the end of games when that happens, as they know the engine intimitately, and it is extremely hard for anyone else to understand like the original developers. Just a fact of life. This is why I think features stopped being developed for YEARS. The Thargoids were already done at that point, too. They just needed to roll it out, which they did.

[@Keith-w8y]

I am an original Kickstarter backer and all I ever wanted was a new version of Frontier. 10 years later we still do not have gas giants and atmospheric planets. I played the game yesterday for the first time in years and the lack of these features are still like a knife in my back from FDev.

[@HCforLife1]

that's why I will repeat like crazy - ATMOSPHERIC PLANETS. I am fed up with people saying - it's too much to ask. FFS!

[@fabiotuzzi3724]

I agree,but hey if they add atmospheric planets then then they need to add more flora and fauna in many many many planets... Its a lot of work.... XD

[@scotttill3847]

@@HCforLife1 Has it occurred to either of you that the game engine isn't capable of rendering such features? I don't think it can render water, which is why we can't land on Earth-like planets.

[@FlecheDeFer]

You could focus on all they've added, how the game is 20 times better now than when we started, but you prefer to focus on the only thing that you don't like... People like you are so sad. You probably are one of these guys who announce "this year wil be the last for Elite Dangerous" for years...

[@scotttill3847]

@@FlecheDeFer I started playing ED in 2016...kept at it for a year or two, then stopped. I started again just after Horizons released but quickly put it down. I decided to give it another go in October after playing NMS for a few months. I was blown away by how much F-Dev added. Not only can you land on planets, but you can get out and walk or drive on them, infiltrate settlements, get into firefights, or look for signs of life or resources. I never bothered with Powerplay, but when 2.0 dropped, I gave it a try. Just having some random tasks to complete every week keeps me occupied when I am not off trying to engineer my ships or hunt bounties in a RES.

[@martinmoss317]

I still want VR support for the on foot part of the game. Even though VR seems at best declining in video games. I still want it in ED.

[@psyantologist]

is there any "walking and running in first person" vr game that you can play without getting motion sick within minutes? that is, without teleporting? can't have folks teleporting around in a multiplayer game...

[@martinmoss317]

@@psyantologist Yes: No Mans Sky Half Life 2 VR Half Life Alyx Portal 2 VR Rec Room Laser quest Karnage Chronicles Alien Isolation VR There are tricks to getting VR legs for people prone to motion sickness such as having a fan in the room blowing air at you. Turn by moving your head not using the joystick to spin. Don't do lateral shifts left or right. Physically Walk on the spot when moving forward in game. Move slower in game.

[@dontlistentome7498]

@@psyantologist literally everyone with a vr headset can handle this and anyone generally can with a bit of getting used to. its not a herculean task.

[@Denji23]

@@psyantologist if you do it regularly you loose the motion sickness relative fast. I got very easily motion sick, but then i played bone works frequently. i stopped when getting motion sick, the time i could play became longer and longer very fast.

[@FD3SA]

Ship interiors would be great to add with a crew overhaul. It would be nice to be able to interact and level up your crew somehow, and be able to use multiple NPC crew at once. This would provide the gameplay loop for ship interiors, which otherwise would just be a lot of work for quickly diminishing novelty.

[@mariotomazzoni6523]

Avatars for NPCs in the pilot seats are in Elite Dangerous since the Odyssey DLC, thats almost 4 years and Frontier only use them for the NPC Pilots of Apex Interstellar and Frontline Solutions. If Frontier would care about the NPC crew that is ingame since the Horizions DLC they would have used those Avatars for the NPC crew too. But Frontier simply don't care if it doesn't bring money. Maybe if they don't make enough money with the ships for ARX they will sell Crew Avatars for ARX, wait for it.

[@angeluss28]

They need to fix the gsme first.

[@4tonmike]

Even better for a relief pilot to take over like in X4 for at least some portion of long haul flights maybe

[@0LoneTech]

Things that are off the table: 1. Offline support. 2. Linux, Mac or console support. 3. Ship interiors. 4. Functioning antialiasing. 5. Mentioning VR. 6. Customizing HUD colours. I'd have put turning off the pirate signs on the list, but that one might have some hope now they have a minigame of vandalizing advertisement banners. Certainly didn't help with immersion when a faction had the power to stop the black market but not turn off the signs.

[@0LoneTech]

Forgot to mention, putting a price on something called a "major downloadable expansion pack", because those were covered by the lifetime pass. Instead, expect more gag-inducing "ARX" bollocks.

[@guitaristkuro8898]

Craziest update would be better antialiasing and upgrading the FSR version along with adding DLSS/XeSS

[@TheRealShiba]

it won't really help since elite is more CPU dependant

[@saintjames1995]

Craziest update would be a return to consoles

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Stupid suggestions. It runs extremely fast as it is now and looks the best of any game I have played in the last 15 years. They don't even suffer from color banding to the extent other games do. If you need FSR, you need to upgrade your computer. Mine is 8 years old (9700K) with a 1080 I ran Horizons maxed at 4K at 130 FPS. Now I have a 4070 Ti Super, I run Odyssey maxed at 4K and get 180 FPS. FSR nowhere to be seen on my system. I disable that crap.

[@georgeisnumerouno8745]

Let me colonize the inside of my ship...

[@cf9590]

I wonder how many rooms we can pack in the large ships. I wanna get lost in my type 10 lol

[@aszahala]

Ship interiors -- fun for 20 minutes.

[@ion_force]

@@aszahala I hate that argument. It's just a piece of the game thats missing for no reason. It's like saying opening the mission board is fun for 20 minutes.

[@aszahala]

@@ion_force It's missing because it brings next to none game play with a cost of tons of 3D-modeling. The ships are massive. Yeah I kinda get the idea that it would be fun to multi-crew and have people work in different stations/panels on the ship and walk to each other, but I just don't get it why it's so damn important to people.

[@HarenunHoppus]

If you can do diagnostics from the cockpit then why need interiors if all it can do is just for roleplaying purposes.

[@jamesmbutler]

All I want is VR put back in the game.

[@KitHavok]

💯

[@spyroflam]

It never left, care to explain ?

[@jamesmbutler]

@@spyroflam Did they hide it?

[@spyroflam]

@@jamesmbutler Don't know what platform you are using but on steam it's still appearing on the launcher window "launch elite in VR Mode". The only thing we can argue is that odyssey performance are worst than odyssey (hence requiring a better rig), and there are no native 'on foot' VR. But everything else is still there as before.

[@tekfunk6299]

i noticed in many of those nebula regions throughout the galaxy there is already one populated system (around 30,000 people) where you can sell your stuff and repair etc

[@darkseraph2009]

Shhhh!

[@minmatercommando5444]

😂😂​@@darkseraph2009

[@kahtyman7293]

aren't you talking about outposts on Colonia Connection Highway?

[@tekfunk6299]

@@kahtyman7293 I´m talking those meteor bases and some settlements, they are pretty empty tho. For example California Nebula, Heart/Soul Nebula, Elephant trunk Nebula etc. STatue of Liberty Nebula for example has none afaics. I ran two Larceny missions in Heart Nebula and even the crates were empty apart from the one with the mission item in it. I use the economy mode on the Galaxy-map to see the inhabited system.

[@tekfunk6299]

btw. in powerplay map-mode they even had the ring around it probaby meaning you could undermine them idk, havnt done much powerplay yet and they`re ofc several 1000s LY away from the bubble

[@baronjutter]

I've been watching your elite videos off and on for like almost a decade now. Never bought the game as I just felt it wasn't quite for me. But with the announcement of player run settlements I bought the game! I have no idea if this "system architect" system will actually be what I hope it will be or if it will be a deeply disappointing, but time will tell. So far I'm having fun learning the basics and making my first few millions.

[@jonathanhixson7406]

right there with you on ship interiors. it was apart of the original game path but then something happened and they never mentioned in again except during streams saying that it wouldnt come.

[@R0d_1984]

I don't think the engine can do it, or maybe they made a deal with the devil, errrm i mean Chris....

[@shugularity]

@@R0d_1984 I think its more to do with the absolute skeleton crew that they've left working on it.

[@jameswalker9418]

There are simple things they can do in 2025 like fixing the cargo dilemma, so everyone can leave cargo in one ship and get in another ship without having to get rid of it or bring it with you. I'm sure things like that would go a long ways to keeping the community happy.

[@BariiAlyn]

It's great hearing the passion and enthusiasm in your voice again for ED. Here's hoping that 2025 follows a brilliant 2024.

[@MesaFalcon]

Im stillholding out hope for an engineering overhaul. As someone who tricked out my combat ships to the absolute limit... I'd happily give up hundreds of hours of engineer grinding to get ships back into some sense of balance. I should'nt be able to fire 5 PAs or Railguns without boiling... and have an enormous shield to boot. I want fixed multicannons to be viable so that proper wing tactics and coordination can be a thing again. I know that this isn't necessarily in line with Ant's audience, and I really do agree that a nice atmospheric flight or ship interiors would be great for immersion... but the thing that keeps me coming back to this game from time to time is the flight model and the high skill combat it allowed. I made so many friends doing that and engineering has more often than not been one of the major hindrances to truly enjoying it.

[@Games-tt9hu]

Still no functional anti aliasing let alone DLSS... Still no full VR support...

[@kennethhudgins1369]

It's a 10+ year old game, TF you need dlss for?

[@Games-tt9hu]

@@kennethhudgins1369 A) DLSS is really good anti aliasing in its own right, even ignoring the performance boost from rendering at a lower internal resolution. B) I have a 3080 and play at 4K. The on foot portion of Odyssey is still dropping at or even below 60 fps at max settings. C) For VR DLSS isn't ideal in some games but it would still be a massive image quality to performance boost compared to what we have now, especially judging by MSFS. D) We have 160, 240 and even 480 hz monitors coming out now. TF you wouldn't want to be able to actually play with that extra smoothness when the additional hardware in the GPU you paid for would allow you to do so (or get closer to it at least)???

[@Mike0193Azul]

More VR implementation would be amazing. Along with ship interiors and atmosphere. I adore No Man's Sky due to vr 🚀

[@mariotomazzoni6523]

Stuff like the stacked containers and container cranes in Frontiers video about colonisation showed also one of Odysseys big problems - it feels like a separate game with only a loose conection to the rest of the game. These containers are found in many Odyssey settlements, but there are no ships in the game that move them.

[@marcoandreani1491]

Landing on the atmosferic planet's, new ship, and the possibility to have a space radio integrated in the ship instrument's.

[@alz722]

There already is a "space radio" of sorts in the game. You can play Galnet news articles and chapters from the codex in your ship, build a play list and listen like an audiobook, sometimes with clips of voice actors.

[@marcoandreani1491]

@@alz722 I'm not interested in small talk, I would like a radio integrated into the instrumentation with various music radio stations.

[@tonylunaticcain6951]

lets kinda wait on ship interiors, since they got station walking working good, i want to see a walk through of an entire station. instead of being invited to a wing you can walk to your buddies landing pad

[@KinkyJalepeno]

I wonder if us VR based Horizons players are gonna see anything we can get involved with?

[@jaybird0312]

Why would FDev waste time on a niche feature when they dont really even care about the base game?

[@sammasic5849]

Love it!, they need to keep going and maybe upgrade graphics as well. Also hope that they introduce Full Atmosphere planets with diverse biosphere and clouds. We can hope.

[@hasmodai]

sure. Graphics look way dated by now.

[@Forfeit_The_Game]

You underestimate how much time I will put in playing solo to make my own system.

[@HCforLife1]

Same!

[@andrewparkin4036]

I agree with much of what's being said here, it's only a little thing but I'd just like to be able to go up to the bartender and as well as the mats etc they offer there'd be a "pour me a drink" option to at least make it look like they're doing the job they have the title for 🤷‍♀️

[@Vhailor2003]

I feel like the tech for the inside of thargoid maelstroms could be used for gas giant upper layers too. Big clouds, intense pressure, a little sensor scrambling. I mean even the thargoid repulsion pulse could be a starting point for something like storms or energy surges in the various gas layers.

[@Challenger160]

I want to step foot on atmospheric planets with oceans. Oceans of water, methane, nitrogen or any other potential chemical liquid with different properties like sinking faster or slower or high temperature or low temp waters with beaches and rivers.

[@emotown1]

Sounds simple. Not so easy to code graphics for waves rolling onto a shore, splash interactions between ships and liquids … and that’s just after two seconds of thinking how I would go about implementing what you describe. Short answer … they can’t do it. But I agree, the game needs something radical like that, to add interest and variety.

[@zealotscout]

This so much this 😭Finally someone who gets it.

[@AtlasRandGaming]

I think the key word is chain not own. You will pick style and haul materials, but you won’t ever own it.

[@YZFerus]

will they fix flickering shadows with this update?

[@theturnip1111]

Thanks for all the up to date content! I started about a month ago and have been loving every bit of it!

[@TeddyLindsell]

Pleased for you Cmdr, it’s a hell of an adventure and can give 000’s of hours gameplay. I bought the game Christmas 2016 and still play regularly and still learning stuff …o7 and fly dangerous, it’s more exciting 😊🫡

[@Eneov]

I'm honestly shocked ED is still running. Seemed like it was on life support for a while there. Been playing SC 4.0, hopefully ED will provide some good competition

[@antoniopaivadasilva2716]

I just gave up SC about a week ago and now fully dedicate myself to ED. I finally realized SC was not for me and I prefer space exploration in a space game, something SC really does not offer as far as interstellar which is what I prefer. SC only has 2 star systems. ED has thousands. Plus the wipes and crashes sort of demotivated me.

[@daltonhickman4855]

@antoniopaivadasilva2716more like hundreds of billions

[@MavicAir1]

I ended up coming back to Elite after a round of star Citizen. It's so much deeper and complete. Other than walking around in ships Elite has it all. I wish open wasn't so taken over because solo is really solo.

[@Batlafication]

@@MavicAir1 Oh? ED has atmospheric planets now?

[@originalmin]

@@Batlafication yes. Tenuous atmosphere.

[@austingoodrich2193]

Well, if we are having our wish lists, I want walk-able ships 😅

[@4tonmike]

Legged ships

[@ilaril]

2025 seems like a year I'll return to my ships.

[@dentara-rast]

DW3 coming back too according to reddit. Good time in Elite again.

[@Ebalosus]

That'll be what? *Six years* after the last one?

[@dentara-rast]

@@Ebalosus Yes, 6 years since DW2 and 10 years since DW1 !!

[@Blairvoyach]

Are they signing commanders up? I did DW1 and 2. Can't miss out on 3. Linky?

[@Flamecrestification]

What is DW?

[@NielsC68]

@@Flamecrestification Distant Worlds Expedition.

[@jirikrajnak9047]

Colonization will fundamentally change how we play the game… by giving us another grind loop! Because, clearly, hauling commodities for weeks to unlock a glorified nameplate on the map is revolutionary gameplay. Truly groundbreaking, like fleet carriers totally redefined the galaxy. Oh wait… Also, Obsidian Ant’s 2025: Elite Dangerous becomes Starfield, No Man’s Sky, and Kerbal Space Program all at once, with a side of Hogwarts Legacy.

[@0LoneTech]

Fleet carriers did severely mess up the system map.

[@shugularity]

Dear FDev, Here is how you make Elite Dangerous into the true space sim powerhouse, bring back people who have abandoned the game or aren't motivated to return, and improve player retention: - Ship interiors with gameplay loops tied into it. Frontier saying "you guys just think you want it" is such a cop out, gaslighting excuse. And Frontier apologists are even worse for defending it by asking "what will it add?". It just speaks to people's lack of expectation, ambition and innovation that they can't come up with some ways to enrich the experience by having it. Void Crew, a game that was clearly developed on a budget by a fresh-faced developer, managed it. Why can't Frontier use their imagination? - Unlockable multicrew allowing you to actually have meaningful interaction and task delegation that would enhance the RP experience (i.e. allow a crewmember to pilot the ship if you explicitly enable it). Multicrew was the first wildly disappointing feature release, just like everything else, it is on the cusp of greatness. They desperately need to properly harness existing systems, but instead they rework ones that could be left to cook a bit longer. - Atmospheric planets with weather systems. This is obviously on everyone's idealistic wishlists, I'm not even expecting this anytime soon, there are far more pressing matters. With Frontier's track record, would probably disappoint me too. - Better content accessibility that don't require you to take up Elite as a second job. Not respecting people's time is one of Elite's greatest setbacks. This must be properly addressed. The features they introduce that basically require an obligation to play to maintain are insulting. - More player owned capital ships and possibly asteroid stations. I saw parts of Frontier's discussions on colonisation it and it looked an awful lot like Frontier have learned nothing from past transgressions, to me. Both fleet carriers, and the incoming colonisation feature, both seem to have built in obligations to play the game like its a part time job. Nobody with any self respect wants this. - More variety e.g. more than just a single room on stations. - Expand off of space legs. Elite's second most disappointing feature release. Yet another "cusp of greatness" moment. Other things I mention here fold into this. - Better integration of ground to air combat and vice versa. If I recall correctly teasers and promotional materials for both Horizons and Odyssey insinuated that combined arms was going to be a huge step up for the game. Both times there's not even a breath of it in the game. - Give me better value for my time. Basically just a reiteration of a previous point. But it really is still one of Elite's biggest setbacks. - Allow mixed wings i.e. multicrew & ships but have size class limits (or just find other balacing methods or just allow private groups to enable it idk) to enhance the 'playing with friends' viability of the game; plus if we got better value for our time alongside that, then things like engineering and powerplay would be more accessible to people who have busier lives and player retention would improve. Realistically, what I am getting at is that many friend groups (including mine, which is partially why I mention it) have awkward numbers of people that would all love to participate together in meaningful ways, with people who might find enjoyment in all sorts of different roles. Most people who sit down for a couple of hours in the evening to play a game, don't want to play it if neither their playstyles nor lifestyles are catered for. By no means am I saying to make this game a casual game, but if a friend who isn't deep into the game usually wants to hop in my ship for some quick fun, allow us to make it a cool and unique experience for them. The choice at the moment being "shoot some turrets/missiles/whatever for me" or "fly around in a fighter that an inexperienced player is not fully equipped for" is not very conducive to having a cool or unique experience. Regards, Every player that has had zero motivation to put any more time into this game over the past few years.

[@harrywiggins9553]

Would be cool if we could make one of those mulchers shown at the beginning in our colonised systems to produce metals or materials passively

[@defiantsnow6055]

Megaship, generation ship, ship wreckage exploration/mysteries would be great. Atmospheric planets would be great, but I expect that to require a full engine update so not expecting that soon.

[@aspydes]

Mandalay can be paid with credits now? when so

[@kinnusai4432]

I've been watching videos about ED on and off for a few years and always wanted to try it. Just got it on steam and its downloading as I type this. Your videos have been super helpful in letting me see what the game is about and i assume I'll be watching a lot more as i figure out what the hell i'm doing 😅 Thanks for the videos. I hit the sub button. And the like one as well obviously.

[@FrendlyM]

I haven't played Elite for a few years now. I remember Frontier making a questionaire about engineering and general balance. I know that they changed some of the grind mechanics, more recently also the powerplay mechanics. Have there been any changes to weapon balance? Some weapons used to be almost universally useless (or extremely niche) while others were allaround the meta. What about engineering options? Some of them were just useless (more ammo on PD comes to mind as first) and some often felt "copy-pasted" from a module to module. Have they changed anything about that? General engineering balance? The thing where one healing laser could outheal the damage of several laser guns shooting the target.

[@JustDave_GG]

2024 was such a huge year for the game, and IMO was almost make or break, and thankfully it was great. To the point that I don’t think Elite Dangerous has ever been better. Very much looking forward to 2025 and FDEV’s renewed focus on the franchise.

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

Best part! 4:01 Players will *actively* be fighting over regions with other players in an attempt to conquest these *player-controlled* regions!! This will definitely *revive* Elite: Dangerous!

[@billyclement5141]

I'd love for Frontier to show VR some love. I still haven't played any Odyssey content. I fly in VR and the switch to a very average looking shooter just isn't worth taking my headset off for. I've got an old 1080p monitor that's perfectly adequate for everything else I do. But it doesn't hold a candle to the VR experience. There are a whole new range of competing, reasonably priced, incredibly hi-res VR headsets coming on line next year. There are very few games that benefit anywhere near as much as a space sim from donning the headset. Frontier are really missing a trick here- the people buying those headsets have plenty of disposable income, they're not even going to blink at the price of new ships or skins. Get them interested in Elite and watch the cash roll in! Right now they're just turning up their noses at free money... Speaking of which, wouldn't this be a good time to revisit console support? Is it really so difficult to offer ED to those platforms too?

[@daywalker6747]

I think the two main concerns about colonization are: 1. The distance. 10yl is way too short. I think 20 / 25 would be more suitable without exaggerating. 2. The inability to loose a controlled system. This can be easily exploited, locking paths or blockading regions. Fdev should reconsider at least the second one.

[@rasa6225]

I would like to see Starship interiors and More detailed planets

[@jensleck547]

Are there plans for SeriesX or PS5? Because last Updates(walking on Planets &Basis) are only for PC😢🖖

[@bradleymoore3170]

Sadly their done with the consoles

[@jensleck547]

@bradleymoore3170 yes, i think so too :(

[@jensleck547]

@bradleymoore3170 i am playing since years on C64😅, Atari, PC and at least @XBox(X&SX)...and finally i don't like the step to walk on Bases and Planets. For me it is not really a Part of Elite. Elite is for me a Spaceship-Sim and this works until now on Console🖖

[@farkasgabor4084]

Ship interior would only work out for long terms if the devs could implement boarding to other ships, abandoned ships, wrecks , fight with the crew. Just to be able to walk around in my own ship would be interesting and chilling but only for the first couple of times (at least for me)

[@JuMoENT]

dang somet body is telling the truth. There would have to other gameplay loop to support ship interior other than "chilling" in your ship which would lose it novelty within a few cranks of the game.

[@originalbadboy32]

Interiors are going to be problematic given that the ships are not designed for it in the first place. They are not scaled properly for starters.

[@chrisclark6705]

This is amazing. All we need next is ship interiors and vr support for on the ground! Maybe atmospheric flight aswell.

[@HarrytheHunter]

1:20 *cough cough* walkable cabins *cough*

[@DoctorEviloply]

I've been salty about ED for a while but I think colonies is a step in the right direction. If Frontier will actually let players do dynamic and unexpected things with it or just cross their arms and say no to fun like they've done in the past remains to be seen. I want to see fights over territory and resources between player run organizations. But I doubt that's something we'll actually see.

[@cyberangel82]

You've been salty for a reason, why would FDEV change all of a sudden over their 10 years old game?

[@camerondunlap6040]

All i want to do is walk around my ship, when that happens i will be happy forever haha

[@Flamecrestification]

That would be cool, but I'd love being able to lang on earthlike worlds. Seeing some lush forests and stuff would be great, they even hinted towards that a while ago

[@robwilliams1508]

I hope they expand the colonization distance from the bubble to be how far a fleet carrier can jump. That would make it very interesting.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

The oppertunity to potentially go out into the black and colonise my favourite systems that I have discovered is very enticing. I just really really hope they procide some means for the people who first discovered a system to reserve architect status for said systems.

[@ProgenitorFoundry]

Too bad the limit is 10LY from the bubble. Have fun daisy chaning 100000000000000000000000000 systems and the cost assosiated to get to your "favorite system". If frontier dont open the ability to colonize anywhere in the galaxy, they are ...well braindead. but ive got no doubts its going to be exactly that. Since release if its anything theyve been good at, its dissapointing everyone.

[@spacecadetjimmy371]

EVA's. Even if we don't get ship interiors, the possibilities for EVA's is endless. Imagine being out in the black and unable to repair a tear in your hull because you're out of AFMU's. You can't risk going to a planet so you hop out of your ship and move to the damaged spot, using an alternate mode of your arc cutter to repair your ship. If ship interiors do happen, EVA's have so many more possibilites on top of it. Boarding other ships, piracy, etc.

[@Keln02]

If they make the new feature too expensive. None but a few will use it. Making more of a marketing feature than a real gameplay addition

[@maboleth]

I'm very optimistic - not only ED is having the best time of its life, but Elite is a labour of love for D. Braben. I'm quite positive that Braben is using many of the resources their other games make to pump ED's development - even if ED is not as profitable as their other simulators, though definitely becoming one with pre-built ships. My point is - ED is in the good hands and on a right track. What we've seen in 2024 proves that they are more than capable of changing the game for the better and enriching the gameplay.

[@iandrake3835]

There was also the Power Play "upgrade" . It's still a work in progress with no clear communication when many issues will be fixed. Overall though as you say it was a very good year. I am hoping for surprises. Something novel. I want the game to consolidate this progress.

[@tiberiusdave252]

Colonisation paves the way for so much in Elite. This, I believe, is the first stage. We will by the looks of things be able to put down a variety of settlement types. This could then lead to the introduction of new settlement types and potentially move also into thicker atmospheres. Plus, it should be noted that on the new ships you can walk up the stairs to the doors. Again, this looks like the potential for the development of walking into and out of ships… and potentially around. The beta testing of colonisation is a great idea by fdev and they need to monitor assess and adjust the distances to expand and the materials. And once they are happy with this then more new features can be added. Exciting times.

[@BarmyBarry666]

When I first saw this game, I was really excited, exploring the actual observational universe. Surely the mission should be to help build new space stations further out, gather materials for these stations, and help get them built?

[@VilleKois]

My wishlist: More odyssey related on-foot content. Free player trading. More npc interactions. More mission types and chained odyssey missions.

[@dmi3mis]

I predict that you will need to crawl entire universe for resources to start one new colony. The Frontier feels uncomfortable if players aren't banging their heads against the wall in despair.

[@CMDRArcanic]

I'd like to see them finish the atmospheres we have now. They are just colored sky. No physical atmospheric effects, no drag, no dust devils, moving windswept effects on the ground or super thin clouds. Just some whistling noise from outside the cockpit. Before they touch any other thicker atmospheres, get these right first.

[@SuperExtremeTNT]

they still need to completely overhaul the on foot mechanics and planets for modern era

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

One problem is that Elite Dangerous Odyssey is two games running one inside the other. When you're on foot you're loading the second game engine, hence all the performance issues across both and the difference in visual acuity. One major fix would be to pause development to refactor both engines into one, including a netcode revamp, in order to make the game expandable again. ED 1.0 was written to meet the timeline, not to meet the Kickstarter goals.

[@DjVortex-w]

@@ThePlayerOfGames What do you mean "second game engine"? The two modes are completely integrated. If you are sitting in your ship landed on a planet, and another player is on foot running around, you can see them in real time, exactly what they are doing. If there are eg. plants around, you can see them exactly as they are. Heck, you can even fly to a fleet carrier, close to a window, and look inside and see npcs and other players on-foot there. If you disembark while landed, you'll get exactly what you saw from inside the ship. You'll see the same rocks, the same plants, the same players, the same other ships. If the other player goes inside their ship, you'll see them there. You can shoot at their ship and it will register. Their ship can shoot at you, and it will register. It's the one and same environment, same engine, same assets, same game. There are no "two games in one", there are no "two game engines". The ONLY reason they have the fade-to-black transition when disembarking is that they didn't implement an actual disembarking animation. It's not that the engine doesn't support it, it's that they haven't implemented the animation. (I assume one of the main reasons is that there's a disconnect between the positioning of the ship's cockpit, and where you appear outside the ship when you disembark. It probably would require quite some modeling and logistics to have a full uninterrupted disembarking animation, requiring remodeling the insides of all existing ships.)

[@Ebalosus]

Or at least not treat it like it's abandoned. Like what role (if any) did on-foot gameplay factor into the Thargoid war? Where were the Horizons-esq "you have to disembark and use your SRV to collect macguffins" gameplay loops that tied into that storyline? Hell, all we got were Thargoid combat drones/skimmers, not actual on-foot soldiers to fight, which we probably won't ever get now.

[@giantnerd14]

Did they ever put in the complex cosmetic damage models for ships other than the Anaconda? I never remember to look while I'm running for my life, and I remember that was a huge complaint from a few years back.

[@Zachius920]

time to start the EXTREMELY LONG community project of connecting colonia to the bubble with settled systems

[@AlexBehemot]

I will not tire of saying it, if Frontier implements ship interiors and some mechanics related to this, even if it is in a paid DLC, if it is done well I would buy it with my eyes closed, it does not have to be a free update, but always and when it is at a reasonable price I am sure that many would pay it and this would inject even more money into Frontier than the things in the ARX store. The same if atmospheric planets with abundant plant and animal life were implemented, this are one of those few things that Elite lacks and that many of us would be happy to get them even if we have to pay for a DLC, that is, as long as it is not something half-assed like what happened with Oddyssey, it does not have to be a new game , Elite can benefit a lot from these types of updates without having to make a new game from scratch, surely the game engine would have to be updated to exceed the limits of the current one, but this is more viable than simply going for a totally new engine for a totally new game and that ending up being another disappointing disaster like Star Citizen, you don't have to go to such extremes to make Elite a much better and more complete game than SC.

[@scipher99]

I foresee CMDR's building steppingstones all the way between the 22K LY bubbles.

[@alexkayracing]

Personally I just wish the game would have proper support for triple screen setups (similar to what you see in racing simulators). The current implementation causes the image to be extremely warped/stretched on the side monitors. It’s probably not the most important feature request out there, but would be great nonetheless

[@RobizGaming2024]

Gas planets is a must. The amount of gas giant there are in the game is amazing. To be able to build a station or a base in the atmosphere of a gas giant wpuld be cool.

[@panagiotisgalinos]

I'm more into mining and exploration, but colonization seems interesting to me.

[@mbrown7361]

Materials for setting up shop ain't gonna mine themselves!

[@mariotomazzoni6523]

A rework of the Odyssey space suit and handheld weapon modding should be done. Frontier reduced after 4 years the material grind to upgrade suits and weapons, but players still can't remove mods they don't like from their equipment. It's simply demotivating if you waste a mod slot for a thing that doesn't work as excepted and either have to live with it or to start the whole upgrade/mod loop again with a new weapon/suit. Also the whole system feels outdate. Weapons can have up to 4 general slots for mods. So if you mount a scope, you will lose a slot that you can also use for a bigger magazin or reduced recoil or one of the two forms of silencers. Even in the early 2000s game have had better mechanics like a slot reserved for gunsights, ect... IMHO they also should remove the Odyssey Engineers for the on foot equipment and simply add that function to each Pioneer Supply shop. There are 13 such engineers in the game, all with their own base - and each of that 13 bases use the same layout, same textures and feels very generic.It's even a windowless basement so there is no view to the outside world that would reduce that feeling. These engineer bases also lack a Bartender to barter the materials needed to mod the space suits and handheld weapons and no Pioneer Supply to unlock mod slots or buy new weapons. And the game doesn't have any tools that allows players to track the materials they need. Getting rid of these Engineers and their bases would be much easier and cheaper that to give each of them a new, unique base with Bartender and Pioneer Supply. Personally i don't understand why anyone at Frontier fought the upgrade/mod/engineer game mechanics were good in this state, especially after the engineering game mechanics of Horizions were strongly critizied by many players.

[@corsopeewee7368]

Let's not forget that the Colonisation update is NOT .... - I repeat, it is not a 2025 update. It is one that should have come in 2024. So we'll see what Frontier really has in store for us as really new content for 2025.

[@MetallicMedium]

We witnessed Frontier letting Elite languish for years, while a lot of the money it generated went to several other game titles in Frontier Foundry. Those games flopped. The foundry was closed. Now so late in the game, they are doing CPR on a 10 year old game. VR support should have never been dropped. They stopped console support literally right after the Odyssey release. All this work went into power play, when only 5% of players even care about that. Frontier really should have listened to the players. The moderators in the forums crushed so many reasonable feedback threads, it's no wonder Frontier had no clue how pissed the players have been.

[@hardwire666too]

I could've lived without ship interiors, but since they told me I don't want them it became a requirement. More than that though I want to see them commit to design philosophies that are more honest and fair from the start, and give the player choice. I get it. Some people like to grind and that's cool. Go for it. However we should have a choice in that. I don't mind grinding credits. Just like grinding anything it can suck, but at least it's only one thing. But making me run around the effing galaxy to grind materials for upgrades? Id rather just not play at all. I like to use food analogies for this. When you buy a burger you place your order, give them money and in exchange they give you a burger. Transaction complete, both parties satisfied. You don't place an order and then run all over the place sourcing the meat, buns, toppings, condiments, and packaging. Then bring it all back to also give them money on top of it to get your burger. Give me the choice. Some people hate grinding credits, and that's okay. I personally hate grinding materials which is also okay. Give the player agency. Give them choice. If someone wants to farm the mats for engineering give them a discount. If someone like me would rather not let me just pay for it in credits. Nerfing the requirements is not a solution. The problem still exists they just lowered the bar which accomplishes nothing. The requirements could be nerfed down to 1 of each and I still don't want to do it. Just let me spend my credits. Nerfing is not fixing and that's what I would like to see change. But I have absolutely zero hopes of that ever happening. Which is a shame, because if they did people would return is droves.

[@cmdrmarz8625]

Fdev bumped module storage from 200 to 600 which i assume is them future proofing for more new ships. With colonisation coming and the requirement to haul commodities it would be the perfect time to introduce a new king of cargo.

[@kahtyman7293]

first target for colonisation will be highway to Colonia, and second one will lead to Sag A, just to make bubble in the centre of galaxy and name one planet Coruscant

[@commanderdestructa4654]

I'd like to see mining revisited - especially hotspots and overlaps where you seem to find everything but the thing thats supposed to be in the hotspot. Mining needs some love.

[@jeffreymillican7462]

question, would the claim distance limit from the bubble be a first phase to get people used to operating the colonization and a larger distance being implemented later for those that want to go off on their own? does anyone think that sort of thing would be used?

[@Cyrops]

I'm curious how they are going to prevent people from blocking being a founder. If I play solo and it takes me 3months to be a system founder, I will do it, but what if someone else beats me to it?

[@pisacenere]

I want the Panther Clipper ship, so hauling solo could be a little easier than using a T9

[@RihV]

I think it ended up being the Cutter. But since npc crew aknowledge it's existence in the game, we never know

[@tommymorrison6478]

Colonisation has always been one of the things I wanted to see in ED, but I see Frontier are already setting us up for disappointment with this 10 ly limit. surprise surprise. What else should they do? Well....... Jumpgates NPC aliens (and yes, I know we have Thargoids but I don't mean anything as involved as those, just guys who come at you out in the far reaches of the galaxy). Player trading. To include everything a player can own.

[@MidgetRacer8192]

any chance Braben comes back to help with ED again? no clue what his thoughts are regarding these changes, but it would be neat to see him involved if the game grows again.

[@ltpunkrocket522]

For those who aren't really for ship interiors. I hear you. We could use game play improvements, optimization, depth, all that good stuff. I dont know if were in a position where we're just being whiney about the state of the game, or any of us have any real ideas as Players as to what those improvements would even look like or how wed best prefer to see them implemented. PvP could be nurtured better into newer players, so it isn't an up hill grind just to compete, and integrating players into open wont devolve into ganking thinning out our weakened player base. How ever in defense Ship Interiors, there's something it very well could being to FDev: Money. If players are given space to claim as their own, a home away from home like the ships kind of are, and they were given ample ways of personalizing the spaces, much like we do with the bobbles heads on the dash board, we'd dump our Arx into it. If anyone is unfamiliar with WarFrame, Implore you to look up how Digital Extremes and players treat the interior of their orbiter all with micro transaction sold props and color schemes. This is still understandably further from priority, but it isnt totally unbelievable.

[@danilooliveira6580]

I'm not sure how exactly Elite changed along the years. you got more things to do and more enemies to fight, sure, but the gameplay loop of the game is the same since engineers. things could shake up a bit after the colonization update, but I'll rather wait and see. as far as I know the entire gameplay loop will be just make money and gather resources and drop them at an station, just so you can have your name in that system.

[@DjVortex-w]

There's actually quite a lot of on-foot content. You just need to find it. The game doesn't shove it in your face.

[@jygamer2151]

Landing on earth-like worlds and base building will do it for me... and letting the bio-scanner scan more than one sample at a time!!!

[@iDennisX1]

I think a lot of interesting innovations could be made with a little work. Landing on the surface, to darken (blur) (fog) the atmosphere, color it. Could it be "toxic atmosphere" "You have 5 minutes to take off!" notice. You don't even need to model for this. It can be easily solved with a light effects or to simulate an earthquake with vibration. Many things and dangers could make the game interesting

[@iDennisX1]

What's more important: I would pay for these new dangerous contents. With real money. Hallo FDev! :)

[@wickfut-racing]

so what gameplay does this bring? plonk a base on a moon and it's another shop/cloned interior to walk around and that's it?

[@730NARD0]

Im SOOO GLAD that im not the only one who wishes for ship interiors and more planets to explore (atmospherical and gas giants is something of a dream come true, hopefully, soon..)

[@mariotomazzoni6523]

The absolute minimum for ship interiors would be an airlock to hide the spawning of the players avatar - the same way the hangar lift hides the spawning of the players ship. Frontier didn't even bother to add an airlock to each ships in the last 10 years, so why should they start now? Adding interior to each ship is also a lot of work and would cause in many cases problems with guns and landing gear clipping into the interior. Maybe Frontier will relaunch Elite Dangerous some day and this time with ship interiors but looking at the last big DLC they probably also add the dumbed down upgrade & modding system from Odyssey to us it for ships too...

[@4tonmike]

They could get around the weapons clipping in by having the interior technically being a separate room. Or maybe just really cramped so that getting to and from the pilot seat would be fixed animations, though the larger ships probably wouldn't have that issue.

[@zelthevoidkitsune8625]

there's also one thing along with the other stuff the the community wants, i would love to be able to higher 2 more NPC fighter piolets so i could lunch a small wing of fighters to help me in combat maybe even for AX combat.