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[@pavelblaha5243]

According to the video, I still find this solution clumsy compared to the classic levers.

[@katchaontheflipside]

But having the buttons on the wheel still doesnt help with f.i. roundabouts..

[@youtubebob123]

I guess it's slightly more intuitive, but not really "nice"

[@srenhansen1983]

If you notice how the instructor holds his hands, the right hand is on the correct button for exiting the roundabout. I guess that’s the trick.

[@colla555]

Just stick the buttons on the actually dashboard. Like a quiz show button. Or Alternatively on the fixed part of the steering column

[@achaz_]

I find it better than normal stalks for roundabouts but it's probably just me that's able to accomodate to something new... Right...

[@altern8ive]

_"notice how the instructor holds his hands"_ except in UK crossing hands is not the technique in driving schools. The wheel is taught to be passed through both hands not crossed or one hand removed.

[@cos_marc]

it should be mandatory to get 1-2 hours of driving from the school every few years... just so someone remembers us how bad of a drivers we are.

[@zahnatom]

every "few years" as in 10 sure anything lower is unreasonable tbh

[@kasperjuul5124]

I drive a BMW... what is this talk about blinkers?

[@avivstoica]

🤣🤣😎👍🤣🤣

[@RoteLars]

BMW and Audi and Mercedes drivers don't care about blinkers

[@broderwow]

You can always buy aftermarket stalks as Bjorn presented 2-3 weeks ago.

[@Blasterxp]

Hmm strange.... I think the buttons should no move. Then issue is gone.

[@danielr3207]

Ide happily swap the new rear screen for stalks. I'm not upgrading my 2022 until factory stalks are available.

[@pablosquared4868]

And now, every time we see you drive "incorrectly" on the livestream, we'll call you out for it! 😂

[@dominolehmann8227]

I've had the Model S for over 7 years with stalks, in addition a Model 3 2021 with stalks and the model 3 highland without stalks. The first two hours I needed a little bit of more focus in turnabouts but afterwards no problem at all. Having a blinker on every side isn't replacing the stalks, especially if you have always remember which side you need to use. So they change the position as well. Same problem with ferrari back in the day. Of course not that relevant if you are on a track day and using the 9-15 position. In my case no reason for ugly, expensive buttons. Heating batt. isn't helping either and now that the high beam auto function is better there isn't a single reason to buy the sexy buttons in my case.

[@tauzN]

I have three buttons under the armrest. Left and right blinks, the middle changes gear between D and R. Perfect location; even better than stalks.

[@sargfowler9603]

Ever seen a car where so many gadgets have been made to make it user friendly? Clearly Tesla has a HMI department, but they should all be sacked.

[@artokiiskinen1058]

They design the car to satisfy Mr Musk, not the real users

[@yaCiyaCi]

Good solution for model 3 maybe, but why use a car without stalks in a driving school?

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

Price

[@kenion2166]

Future, why use a computer in school when you still can use a typewriter? :D

[@ericvet8b]

That way of holding the wheel does not work well with stalks if you are turning left on roundabout (here in UK and leaving exit), as your left hand would be on wheel on the left with “free” right hand but your stalk is on the left, so you have to move hands from that position. This only works if you hold wheel like that, so many people will have to retrain to do it as I’ve tried on commute after watching video and not that easy but I guess doable (but not sure that much more doable than learning to hit right buttons on front of wheel after a while… 🤷‍♂️. Interesting that young learners/kids prefer buttons… 😊

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

right hand drive cars are incredibly wrong... the accelerator should be on the left... thats the natural position

[@DouglasJMark]

Fascinating that student drivers prefer buttons. It makes sense given how fast they can type with they’re thumbs 👍 👍

[@broderwow]

The question is if SEXY buttons could do their wireless stalks?

[@woodypwx]

These are rotating with the steering wheel too. I need Sexy Stalks! Ideally customizable, so I can bind TACC speed resume and other useful controls 😢🙏

[@nandu2702]

I have the exact setup in my model 3, but it is not helpful in roundabouts. Now I got used to the buttons on the steering wheel.

[@DouglasJMark]

I like keeping the right hand on the wheel through the whole roundabout tip 🤓

[@curseknight5]

correct me my Canadian/American friends, we don't indicate entering a roundabout, we only indicate our exit right?

[@zilla85]

At least for europe, yes, only on exit.

[@Mues_Lee]

@@zilla85 I think in france and netherlands they also indicate on entering. For example they want to leave on the third exit (left side when entering) they set the indicator to left so others see where they want to exit. Sorry for bad english, don't know how to explain it better.

[@anticringeclub]

neither. in the UK (where our directions are reversed) you indicate right on entry if your exit is past half way on the roundabout, then indicate on exit. otherwise, if your exit is before half way, you can indicate on exit only

[@zilla85]

@@Mues_Lee that's interesting! I'm from germany and we only indicate exiting.

[@Mues_Lee]

@@zilla85 Ich hab mir das auch angewöhnt aber kann mich nicht erinnern wie das in der Fahrschule gelehrt wurde. Meinen Führerschein habe ich 1994 gemacht, da gab es in meiner Gegend noch keine Kreisverkehre :D Da ich grenznah zum Elsass wohne ist mir das aufgefallen bei den Franzosen. So dumm ist das auch gar nicht, dann sehen die wartenden das du weiter fährst und reduziert die Unfallgefahr. Weiter unten gib es noch einen Kommentar dazu.

[@Martinko_Pcik]

I don't understand how this non standard and custom solution helps students to learn habits transerable to other cars

[@paulgaida2601]

Great idea!

[@ant1finox111]

Driving instructor sees Asian man approaching, it’s like a hill climber sees Mount Everest

[@DouglasJMark]

FSD Supervised can do the correct signals in roundabouts. I think 12.4.1 did. But, the newer 12.5.4 version did not. I gotta try it again though.

[@kaikboy1388]

Wouldn’t you have the same issue of a deploying steering wheel airbag if you’re caught in an accident within the roundabout with his driving style? (arm stretched across the steering wheel). Like others that commented, the buttons just continue the same ‘mindset inconvenience’, the ideal solution is steer by wire … come on Tesla, make it happen.

[@pallibj]

Exactly what I was thinking 🤔 😊

[@michelvanderbeek391]

I thought it would be a problem, but after a week of having a highland, for me ‘stalkgate’ is not an issue anymore, I’m used to it (yes, also roundabouts / EU). That being said stalks is just more simple and makes more sense. But I don’t see the need for aftermarket stalks.

[@Tescam14]

I agree with instructor about speed being displayed on screen is better than on a dashboard - closer and higher and quicker to read

[@flox8342]

Still think that whole discussion is well overcooked. The only thing i complain about is the bad feedback from the steering wheel buttons in the 3. Why didn't they just put in regular clicky buttons...

[@stuartmchugh1754]

“Instructor” is so dangerous. You are meant to feed the wheel around while keeping the hands in same place. Never cover the airbag with your hand or arm, death wish for watch flying into your face, or very least broken arm instantly if airbag deploys. Automatic fail on driver test.

[@pmacgowan]

I had the same idea that the indicator buttons should be placed where they put the sexy buttons. Dont understand why T did what they did, may be because EM has gone to the "Dark Side" ? Maybe we should call him Darth Musk

[@alexanderroch1030]

When taking a driving test with an electric car are you then allowed to also drive cars with manual transmission? Here in Austria the license would be limited to Automatic cars.

[@Zer-jx8tn]

would limited to automatic, beacuse you get the B78 license and not the B, for now only the hyunday ioniq 5 N have a simulated manual gear

[@volkero3132]

Since 2021 it is possible. It is called B197. You have to take 10 hours driving manual with the instructor. But the rest and the test is done with the automatic.

[@timoliver8940]

Same here in the UK if you learn on an automatic / EV then your licence will only permit you to only drive an automatic. The opportunity to buy a new car with a manual shift though is getting less and less as manufacturers claim that automatics can meet emissions regulations better and these days there isn’t the fuel consumption penalty older automatics had. I took my UK driving test back in 1981 in manual cars but today both the cars in the house are 2023/2024 models with no option to buy a manual gearbox version - one of them has in effect 2 gearboxes though, high and low range with 8 forward gears in each box! It’s a Land Rover Defender and I use the low range box most 3-4 times a month. In the UK we have a group called the Institute of Advanced Motorists who will take you out in your own car with an instructor and correct any bad habits you have developed but this is not compulsory .

[@tamasgiczi]

I dont get this chill mode. In kia EV6, in all 3 modes, eco, normal, sport, the full power is available, but its like putting expo on throttle pedal. Tesla should do this to, chill pedal reaction, but still full power available. I hate the jerkyness of normal mode on tesla.

[@Tobias-b]

Im so surprised that standard safety functions in cars is not regulated when so much else is. And I think this solution is even dumber then Tesla removal of the stalks that the pupil get teached a third way even less standard... I wonder how they will react when dont drive a tesla with extra button, probably be like old school BMW and not use the indicator. Regarding hands on the wheel in our country you are supposed to hold the hands on 4 and 8 (mostly regarding to airbag) not 3 and 9 as in this film.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

these buttons dont solve ANYTHING - the problem is the same....maybe if you put the buttons either side of the cowl behind the wheel -but still clunky

[@alancobbin]

But the Model 3 Doesn’t have a Problem for majority of people,if it did it wouldn’t be selling,muscle memory is key.

[@MR-vj8dn]

Entertaining video. I’m not going to change how I steer through roundabouts, I don’t like arms crossing the steering wheel. Also, I like traditional stalks, and I’m going to continue purchase cars that provide stalks. Younger generations can do what they want. 😊

[@goforsteve3042]

Stalks are the best, Elon is stupid. Anyway I will not give money to Trump. VW or Kia are good EVs!

[@philw4625]

Im not one of those 'i need buttons' types. Ive had several Teslas now so i feel i can comment. But this was a completely daft aesthetic choice for european roads where roundabouts are everywhere. European driving can be quite intense due to small complex roads and heavy traffic. Im sure id get used to it, but i know my wife (who is already totally not a fan of my pre highland Tesla) would just refuse to drive it. Which predetermines my next choice of car - who will drive me home from the pub if the car has no indicator stalks?! 😂 Also, given the lamentable performance of the wipers, a button is essential, and having it moving around with the steering is just an awful decision for this specific car. Same for 3 point turns without a straightforward gear selector - just fiddly when turning in a narrow european street (allied to the massive turning circle and soft fragile kerb seeking alloys common to most teslas). Finally, seeing Elon do his cringe thing at a Trump rally, in front of a bunch of coal rollers (who says they don't get irony?!) is slowly pushing me into the arms of the Chinese EV market. Teslas PR department (if it hasn't been sacked to save money) must be livid - way to go alienating a sizeable export market when the uptake of EV is at a crossroads of doubt and misinformation. Im surprised this design achieved homologation in our market, to be honest.

[@georgepelton5645]

AFAIK, Tesla's PR department was sacked years ago, and never replaced.

[@philw4625]

@@georgepelton5645 it would have been a thankless job, i imagine

[@theohuisman7778]

It is a temporary problem, in future models with steer by wire, the buttons on the steering wheel are just fine. See Cybertruck

[@tokepanduro7302]

yes 🙂

[@scepticalcarols]

Those long movement completely crossed up one hand driving looks very ungainly, I'll just buy a different car next purchase. Elon has convinced me of that anyway.

[@TheZitherish]

The left side is the right side……of the road.✊

[@joseabreu5802]

Nos precisamos de carros simples de usar....mas a cada vez maior quantidade de gadgets sem interesse torna a conducao uma dor de cabeça

[@rajanpatel65]

Lol

[@DragosT8]

There’s no problem with the the blinkers. You get use to them in few hours and that’s it.

[@SailingFloh]

Still touch buttons aren't the best thing if they have made more physical buttons like in the cybertruck it would be much better ...

[@katchaontheflipside]

You must live in the US. Try taking a roundabout and youll know...

[@ZKITPO]

@@katchaontheflipside exactly why I dont buy a tesla. The solution is bullshit in european streets.

[@woodypwx]

My problem with the buttons is not to choose the right one. That is easy. The problem is rotation of the steering wheel. If it’s not straight, I need to find and verify what I’m pressing by eyes and it’s even more annoying over night in dark. It’s totally stupid decision. Other controls are stupid too because of the missing stalks. There is no way to resume TACC speed. It’s much harder to activate and deactivate high beams (you always blind others), no controls for wipers etc.

[@linusjonsson1851]

I had a highland for about 8 months and yes I got use to them but it's not as good as stalks, and the buttons aren't great. Really Stupid design

[@tridrean]

❤❤❤

[@talhabakhtiar6178]

I don't know why stalks are the problem? You can literally get used to these buttons if people still can't focus in round about just buy yourself some stickers thats say "L" and "R" place these stickers on the buttons and you will learn it.