Stop Slicing Your Driver For Good

Stop Slicing Your Driver For Good. In this video we tackle the root cause of why your driver slices. Learning the correct way to move the hands as you rotate and spiral the body can fix your slice immediately.
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[@tonymartino7892]

“Get over it” 😂 There’s so much energy through the ball with that sequence and my back is already thanking you. 👍😎

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantastic news! Keep us posted please!!

[@IIExhibitAII]

This needs way more views and love. Way better than the majority of videos that tells you to do this and that without explaining the science behind it

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantastic! So happy that you enjoyed! Please keep us posted on your game!!

[@nicholaslyman1691]

Great to see you guys posting frequently!!!!

[@elitegolfschools]

Glad you’re enjoying!! ❤❤❤❤

[@antosatrio7959]

very clear

[@matthewlavallee2041]

The thought of showing the club face to the camera really resonated with me, I need external cues when trying to make swing changes, so little things like this, even though I would have thought this would cause my club to slam into the ground, really help make changes. I was just fit for a driver for the first time on Trackman and found out I was actually hitting down on the ball and creating loads of spin. This thought immediately helped me "shallow" the club and hit up on it, I am hitting it with less spin, farther, and with less effort. You guys do a great job of applying swing concepts in a very simple manner. Great work!

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantastic! So fun matching it up!!

[@user-bf6oq4qp6g]

Best video yet!!!

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you!

[@mikelor3167]

Awesome videos and information, keep it up guys! I think I’m starting to get the hang of it. Left hand bowed and knuckles down with the right hand feeling like a western grip forehand shot in tennis!

[@garethhill1968]

What great information…. Love it👍🏻

[@elitegolfschools]

Thanks so much!! ❤

[@Bradman2623]

I always look forward to the clarity and instruction with all your videos . This is video hits home because the driver is a confidence killer for me starting off with a bad slice then trying to recover . Would you say your trail hand has more of a supination movement which controls the club in your video ? Great content as always!

[@thomasroughton5345]

Great lesson thanks guys

[@elitegolfschools]

You bet! Thank you!

[@davidgoddard4046]

Hi guy's, Dave G from the UK ..... yet another fantastic simple drill for my 70 Yr old brain , keep on keeping on. I've followed you guy's for quite a few months now and I'm finally reaping the rewards.....last 7 games breaking 90 which for me is "freaking fantastic " One of my businesses is in the garment personalisation business and I wouldn't dream of infringing your copyright ....so any more news on your merch caps . Please please please keep up the regular posts....by the way I'm loving the short reels, some of them are pure gems.

[@elitegolfschools]

Wonderful! Thanks so much for the kind words and I’m so happy you’re playing some great golf! So exciting! And yes, pretty recent hats sent from G/Fore. Pretty excited about them actually and we’ve had some great interest in them. More to come 🙏🙏🙏

[@christophermonnikendam5326]

Thanks for this!!! Just added a new piece to my understanding as well as a new feel when I implemented it…mind blown again 😂. Y’all’s instructional methods and examples have helped with things that I’ve struggled with in a way that that nobody else has. For example: “Pushing the swing” changed my understanding of force direction. “Hub vs COM path” changed my understanding of club path. This video changed my understanding of organization of the swing/hit. Keep up the good work!!!

[@elitegolfschools]

So happy that it’s making sense and hopefully leading to some great results! Keep us posted 🙏🙏🙏

[@tedwilliams4833]

OUTSTANDING

[@elitegolfschools]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@blackmangolf]

Awesome explanation. Slicer here, and yes the fear of the club swinging to the rt is scary. But will give it a shot. Tks

[@elitegolfschools]

You bet! And do it enough that you’re able to hit some push hooks. Always nice to know the opposite of f a tendency 🙏

[@chuck994]

been doing this feel with irons as a 22 hcp w/ out to in path, need to implement it with driver. Work in progress.

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantastic! Keep us posted!

[@Stoyvensen]

Well, this makes sense. Thanks for directing me here from the last video.

[@elitegolfschools]

No worries!

[@The_sunday_lout]

Been following Elite’s instruction over the past 6 months since being a follower. With some major success but had a blip the last few months. Suffered massively with excessive side bend (at least that’s what it feels like) in the through swing (don’t like using the term downswing, mentally for me that maps an early extension pattern). This has been happening especially with longer clubs. Think after watching this video I had a aha moment!! Chest/sternum aimed at ball/even inside!!! Been so focused on lead arm high, trail arm under in through swing. I’m losing all my set up angles 🤯 and almost standing up as I start my through swing. Leading to massive side bend just to get the club down to the ball. Tops and push slices left aplenty (I’m a leftie). Keen to get your thoughts guys. Love the content and a avid follower 👍🏻

[@elitegolfschools]

Thanks so much Matt! And definitely everything in the right doses. Especially side bend AND shallowing! Don’t need much to reap the rewards!!!

[@kba3508]

Genius design maps… the best 10 min on golf in KZbin. And on planet

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you bro!

[@nickspratling7790]

This absolutely unlocked something for me. It felt really hard to understand when watching, but having just been to the range 🤯. Completely changed my miss from soft high and right to strong pulls. But more often just crushing it. Not so much with the driver, that felt hard, but hitting irons and 7 wood in a way I never have. It felt easier to do it on a more “upright” swing path with shorter clubs. With driver felt a lot harder. Will keep trying! Thanks for info.

[@elitegolfschools]

You’re welcome! Glad it unlocked some doors 🚪

[@Kmax051]

Fabulous content. Incredible explanations. Saw the pitching video. Can you add the chipping and how you like to get out of the sand. Thanks so much

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely we can! We’ve got a bunch in the works ❤❤

[@maxraphael9890]

Another great video guys. Truly so thankful for you are your channel, by far the best golf instruction on youtube and my game has had some serious breakthroughs since I started following y'all. You asked for questions, and I'm happy to oblige. Here are two from me: 1) What is the "correct" way to hit the fade off of the tee that still maintains the correct patterns you are explaining here (negative alpha + angular force)? I find that when I swing like this, I am hitting long draws which is awesome for outdriving my friends but also sometimes tough to control the accuracy. I'd like to work on hitting a fade off of the tee, but I don't want to make the wrong adjustments and start hitting spinny 240 slice fades in the process. I think this would be a great follow up video to this one! 2) You talk about wanting the club to be tall in the backswing so you can have "space" to operate in the transition for that negative alpha. Are guys like Rahm and Fitzpatrick just anomalies that defy the best patterns, or is there something to be said for getting the club already in a "shallower" position on the way back if you can avoid coming over the top in transition. Asking because this tends to be my swing pattern, and I'm wondering if I should be working on getting steeper on the backswing or continue to just "swing my swing". Thanks y'all!

[@maxraphael9890]

Following up here on this one! Loving the new vids, sharing them with anyone who will watch

[@user-yg6br3xe4y]

Great video. Great series of videos. Last year, I started tryiing to put some of what you teach into my golf game. I saw a dramatic improvement in distance and quality of golf ball compression. Along with that, my ball flight changed to a fade. I didn't mind that change. Over time, the fade became more of a slice which was making me quite unhappy since that ball flight was never a problem for me. Just couldn't get my right shoulder to stay "at home". I guess I took your teachings about shoulder rotation a little too much to heart. Anyway, this video made all the difference in the world to me. Let the club at the top fall the way you advocate (which is weird as you say) while the shoulders rotate with me concentrating on the left shoulder pulling the rotation. Like magic the ball started slightly to the right with a soft draw. Hope it sticks. Thanks again.

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantastic!!! Love the management of the ball. Everything in the right doses!

[@andrewconnor4429]

Really like windshield wiper drill idea, just letting the negative alpha go and turn. I was close at range today but my brain doesn't let me do it, I hit under the ball a lot, Im too steep. I pull the ball more but I im getting inside out with my turn compensating i think, Im still trying to hit it like it's right in front of me like you said. Also helped for you to say that youve been at this since you were 12 like some moves at just plain counterintuitive. Like dropping in on a skateboard, your body says no dont lean down the ramp stand up! That never goes away so, thanks for sharing, will get to work tmrw

[@elitegolfschools]

Right on and please keep us posted. Would love to help you out however we can!

[@dave2181]

Amazing video! Watched it a couple of times already. Same concepts apply to irons?

[@elitegolfschools]

Yessir! Absolutely! 🙏🙏

[@MrMILLERW6]

Question: Do your bow the lead hand/wrist thru impact?

[@thomassmith878]

Number 1 you have relax your arms as you turn to make it work! So you get 2 for one ,love it .

[@elitegolfschools]

Upper arms are definitely relaxed at times during the swing 🙏

[@genegustafson1993]

320 carry bro. love it.

[@elitegolfschools]

Let’s go!

[@erikv7619]

Great video - can you touch on the weight shift a little bit? If I shallow the club while rotating, I still feel like my chest opens up too early. I tried slowing the video down to see if I could notice your weight shift, but I couldn't. I assume you're doing it though, yeah?

[@ejea8298]

Reminds me of the Kawa swing

[@elitegolfschools]

Love us some Kawa!!!

[@anhtule8533]

We downswing make alpha - by hands or ribs ?

[@mattdipadua3614]

It such a good video don’t know if it’s camera angle but you look square to a little open at set up where everyone else is closed for the draw should I be closed or square

[@elitegolfschools]

@@mattdipadua3614 we love square to the target and moving the ball back onto target line (I.e. pull cuts and push draws 🙏

[@kathybaxter8898]

I’ve been working on this for about a month now, hit balls every day into my net, still struggle to drop the club behind me and have confidence it won’t be wide open. When I do get it right I’ve hit some flushers for sure, but I’ve also hit some big high slices so lotta work to do. Do you guys do video lessons by any chance? Would love to get some lessons but I live in Hawaii so in person lessons are not possible

[@elitegolfschools]

We absolutely do and we’d be honored to work with you! If you click the link in our bio you’ll see a link for virtual lessons. All of our rates and info is listed on that page of our website 🙏

[@user-dw9ub1ci8k]

I wish you guys had a video on how to fix the duck hook.

[@elitegolfschools]

@@user-dw9ub1ci8k well now we will! Incoming soon!

[@user-dw9ub1ci8k]

@@elitegolfschools What would be even better is a road trip for you guys to San Diego.

[@arisandrews5672]

Just to clarify, you don’t make the negative alpha with your hands, it with your rib cage, correct? It was never mentioned but your other lessons make that point.

[@thomasgould2539]

I’m doing the windshield wiper that you taught on this video with the body turn with great results. However, with the irons, I’m getting a very good result as well with the same thought. That seems to contradict your irons video where you bring your body down and backhand a wall. Do you think I should continue to do this driver motion with my irons or Acquiesce to the body drop and backhand motion? Great videos!

[@elitegolfschools]

At the end of the day we need the right mixture of negative alpha and angular. The backhand is to produce angular force whereas windshield is negative alpha. Got to combine them properly for each individual 🙏

[@thomasgould2539]

@@elitegolfschools I have viewed a lot of golf material, including by the best instructors in the world such as Pete Cowan and others. The fact that you teach what you should feel and not just say turn or get into this position at impact has made a huge difference. Please keep up the great work!

[@elitegolfschools]

@@thomasgould2539 wow! What an incredible compliment! Thank you so much for the kind words! Truly appreciate it!!

[@blueeyes6192]

Is it same concept for irons ? And is there any slight adjustments ? 😊

[@elitegolfschools]

There are slight adjustments but the overall map remains the same as this particular video

[@mattbennett3967]

Awesome. If you get these two forces right, does it mean you shouldn’t have to apply any extra face-closing forces like twisting the shaft?

[@elitegolfschools]

There will always be some degree of tumble, it’s just about how much. Just want to limit the amount of face rotation through the strike 🙏

[@johanaberg621]

It's funny how the brain keeps pulling the golfer towards a movement that is akin to the shortest path between the club head at the top of the backswing and the golf ball. This video is my go-to video whenever my brain drags me off track like that. Brilliant!

[@elitegolfschools]

Super interesting huh?! Each person is a bit different within their own map

[@compoundlift]

Love your content guys. Hate when channels just say "hit more in to out" withour properly explaining the kinesiology of the movements. I did have a question though. In a previous vid (Shallowing is stupid) you mentioned how its more of a spinal reaction but in this video it almost seems more wrist driven. Are they different concepts?

[@elitegolfschools]

Great question and the supination act listed here is to aid in continuing the negative alpha force that is needed to match up with the angular force through the strike (stable hit). We prefer to see the ribs as the MAIN shallower, but they don’t need to be the ONLY shallower for all systems

[@compoundlift]

@@elitegolfschools love it. Keep up the good work fellas!

[@elitegolfschools]

@@compoundlift ❤️❤️❤️

[@jack-hq7gr]

Is there a simply way to get online lessons or interaction vs website that seems to have long response delays… Guess that is good sign you are busy.. Keep up the interesting and helpful videos…

[@elitegolfschools]

How long has it been and which website did you use? CO or AZ?

[@jack-hq7gr]

@@elitegolfschools Colorado

[@chuckross8839]

Elite Golf , Why don't you speak to the backswing happens behind you ? Backswing goes back around to the left side . Shifting as you get to the top of the back swing , there is no over the top. The body is moving. You drop and pop rotate on the through swing . Golfer are going the wrong way in the backswing. Rory , goes back and start around the the left , shifts and turns . If you do that your have a golf swing that never stops , is in continuous motion . Infinity swing . Mike Austin did the same thing way ahead of his time. Keep up the great work . Golfers need to know how the backswing moves and get it into there coconuts and enjoy the game. Cheers Mates

[@jeremyhuynh9758]

Isn’t negative alpha the same as all clubs, shallowing the clubs via core to grt on plane?

[@elitegolfschools]

Yes 👍

[@stevepyne6602]

Is this the same for irons ?

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely!

[@ambientlands]

Great video, thank you. I have worked on this in the past, and need to work on it again. I do have one question/slight confusion though... in the video you posted directly after this one "Shallowing Is Stupid", there is a section at around 3 mins 20 when you talk about all the "funky" things people do to shallow the shaft. Isn't the reverse torque that you are demonstrating in this Driver Slicing video an example of that same funky re-routing of the club using the hands and arms? In other words, I am trying to understand how the key concepts in each of these two videos fit together. For example, if I were to become proficient at my lateral moves and the drop of the pelvis, are you saying that this alone is not enough to shallow the driver? Many thanks, great material, Simon.

[@elitegolfschools]

The main key that we’re looking for is not shallowing the hub. If you do this then the trail arm gets stuck and whacks out the hit phase

[@ambientlands]

@@elitegolfschools Thanks so much for this. By "hub" am I right in thinking that you mean the club head can and should fall behind, but the handle and the hands aren't trying to drop down way behind you? So it's a torque but not a dramatic re-routing?

[@elitegolfschools]

@@ambientlands that is exactly right!!

[@ambientlands]

Ok, I have now seen your "Hub Path vs Club Path". Got it! Thanks.

[@elitegolfschools]

@@ambientlands fantastic! Keep us posted please!!

[@wowbsd]

Wow… windshield and turn❤ I guess the most important thing when doing this is to maintain shut face in the back swing. So this would be a combination of 1. Shut face 2. Windshield wiper and turn

[@elitegolfschools]

Yes! 100 percent! 💯 ❤

[@juanbotha6634]

Thanks. I hit a slice but mine is due to heel strikes. Generally heel gets worse the longer the club. Any advice on getting rid of heel strikes?

[@elitegolfschools]

Usually is a spacing issue. Pivot point on trail hip complex rather than lead hip. Also would check set up principles to ensure you can move into heel bias throughout swing

[@user-pf3xc8ms9l]

First, focus on spacing issue and then check negative alpha force. As club getting longer, circumferential force may increase, so club head is shoot away from body.(causes hill biased and thin shot).You might need enough trail hand action(supination with extension of trail hand). This action makes counter force to compensate circumferential force.😊

[@patkeating3816]

The negative alfa should be with all clubs, correct?

[@elitegolfschools]

Yes!

[@s3gts]

Circular motion becomes Angular Force when acted on in a straight line. Those who see ball, hit ball, need a bit of patience! Jumping Time is a no Bueno! The Club must be allowed to Circle, (Neg Alpha) in a Void Behind and to the Right of you. Then you can be a Direct as you want. Nice Gents!

[@elitegolfschools]

🧬🧬🧬🧬🧬

[@joerho]

this is a map that works for iron swings as well right?

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely!

[@BenSmith-ub9je]

Will this work for someone who push slices also?

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely! Just know that the face dictates the start direction and the path relative to the face influences the curvature of the ball

[@JCxGOLF]

@@elitegolfschoolsgreat point

[@JCxGOLF]

Does this apply to irons or just drivers

[@elitegolfschools]

Same concept for irons 👍

[@jack-hq7gr]

Negative alpha- only right wrist complex? Forearm supination at same time? Great infromation- windshield wiper move- ok got it!

[@elitegolfschools]

Supination in trail wrist in transition will definitely get you some negative-alpha 🙏

[@patkeating3816]

Does this apply to all swings?

[@elitegolfschools]

Yes!

[@andybecker5001]

4:50… you may already have a video on this..most people have no concept of how early that movement starts and how much force they need to put into it. It’s immediately and a lot of force.

[@elitegolfschools]

Maps baby maps!! Mapp

[@blueeyes6192]

I wish you can show a video of a feel vs real slow sequence and talk about the difference ? 😊

[@elitegolfschools]

Sure, we can do that!

[@jukkateirmaa9002]

Is this the main map with irons also?

[@elitegolfschools]

Yes!

[@blueeyes6192]

omg your practice feel sequence looks totally different from real ? Is it suppose to be different or same ? 😊😮

[@elitegolfschools]

No actually! Slow mo feelings differ a lot from dynamic action

[@bougie_kenny]

Eff man - positive/negative alpha, angular momentum, center points - it’s like being in high school science class. I might have gotten “A’s” if they applied science to sports. *picks up golf club - does positive/negative alpha*

[@elitegolfschools]

Let’s go! Make science fun kids!!! 🧪

[@b.l.275]

So, same thing with irons?

[@elitegolfschools]

You betcha!

[@b.l.275]

Is it ok to achieve negative alpha by pull my trail elbow down and in towards my body? I'm struggling trying to get there with just my hands.

[@elitegolfschools]

@@b.l.275 would rather not use that map… would rather see lead arm IR in transcription or bounce from lead side bend to trail side bend in transition to shallow the club

[@Chris_Traynor]

I suppose I’m just questioning what does it feel like to do it correctly. Like what do the hands feel like at impact? How to feel the face amidst such a mind-boggling movement. Like I know this sounds silly but should I feel like I’m swinging a mace underarm?? 😂 or should I just focus on the grip and not the face so my awareness doesn’t make me finch into my current movement? I’m kinda joking-but not. I’m basically looking for an analogy to a similar movement I could relate to.🤔

[@elitegolfschools]

Very complex component there and definitely has to do with how the player grips it. We do have a video on the hands in the golf swing that goes over this question in detail though 🙏🙏

[@Chris_Traynor]

@@elitegolfschools I imagined so. No worries. I’ll revisit the grip video🤙🏻

[@elitegolfschools]

@@Chris_Traynor right on 🙏

[@Chris_Traynor]

@@elitegolfschools Not expecting a reply here. Just wanted to let you know I gave this a try today over 18 holes and feels trippy and contact was changeable. Despie that, when I hit a little low draw bunt out there it went about as long as my usual drive, so definitely demonstrated to me how much effortless energy you can get from this. Gonna stick with it!

[@ksandvold]

Ok after watching this video and all of your others, i feel like i can confidently ask this question…. Do other instructors hold back this type of information to keep people in lessons/watching, or do they not understand it themselves? Lol

[@elitegolfschools]

lol! We’ll say this… no secret is safe with us! If we feel like it will help people, we’re going to share it! 🙏❤️

[@bennylim1810]

You mentioned negative alpha force. I think it should have been negative Beta? Negative alpha is more like ulnar deviation?

[@elitegolfschools]

All related to the club and its organization. Depends on how the player sets/loads the club by P4 🙏

[@weznoo]

terres minor major muscle

[@elitegolfschools]

Somebody knows some anatomy stuff! Love it!!!!

[@stevepyne6602]

Way too complicated 😮

[@elitegolfschools]

@@stevepyne6602 loads of ways to get it done! Hit them well ❤️🙏