Elizabeth and Philip Discuss Their Differences | The Crown (Imelda Staunton, Jonathan Pryce)

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Күн бұрын

Philip (Jonathan Pryce) criticizes Elizabeth's (Imelda Staunton) personality, claiming it has left him lonely and disenchanted. He ventures that he has had to seek companionship elsewhere, and when Elizabeth presses him for a name, he admits to growing close to Penny.
From Season 5, Episode 6: Ipatiev House
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@davidcattin7006
@davidcattin7006 Сағат бұрын
Any healthy relationship should allow for (and in fact encourage) each person to have their own interests and friends; you don't have to be bound at the hips all the time. I can only imagine, with her demanding schedule, how truly lonely it must have been for him. Now, if no one else has noticed-- that room is SPECTACULAR!
@RachelKagiorgis1111
@RachelKagiorgis1111 23 күн бұрын
I don't think the Queen appreciated how much the people closest to her truly gave up to make her happy. Because she always got what she wanted.
@hutch1197
@hutch1197 6 ай бұрын
Put aside your speculation about whether a conversation like this would ever take place, and just appreciate the brilliant acting of these two individuals.
@Papi-j2z
@Papi-j2z 6 ай бұрын
And the writing
@ehowiehowie7850
@ehowiehowie7850 6 ай бұрын
Artistic licence
@anya9669
@anya9669 6 ай бұрын
Nevermind whether or not it would happen, but this conversation is also happening on a state visit to Russia, I don't know how much they were still bugging in the Yelsin days
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 5 ай бұрын
its like the Anne Boleyn show. They made her black. She wasnt black IRL and their excuse was simply "who cares?" i like this train of thought. No, really i do. So when are we going to have Nchuti Gatwa as Adolph Hitler? Or Jada Smith as Kristen Gilbert? Or how about a 5ft nothing trans lisping person as Superman? Hey it doesnt matter right because "its just a show, who cares?"
@v.a.993
@v.a.993 Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@ayameisastar
@ayameisastar 5 ай бұрын
Emotional affairs can be as painful as physical affairs
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 5 ай бұрын
@@ayameisastar Unfortunately, probably MORE painful than the physical affairs. Sad but true...
@houseblendcafe6931
@houseblendcafe6931 4 ай бұрын
Then put aside selfishness and get involved with your spouse and they with you
@patrickdoyle3525
@patrickdoyle3525 4 ай бұрын
@ayameisastar More
@iluop3623
@iluop3623 4 ай бұрын
Penis to vagina is the utmost betrayal
@brooke7464
@brooke7464 2 ай бұрын
It is very clear Phillip is very intellectual while his wife has different pursuits. I see no reason why he cant socialize even among his family who share the same interests. He did leave Greece, his home to marry her..
@safebox36
@safebox36 4 ай бұрын
Philip, you're not helping when you call it "companionship" then follow it up with "there's a group of us".
@bricktam
@bricktam 6 ай бұрын
Philip was pretty much asking for approval for a friendship that Elizabeth had with Porchey.
@Ariana-wv4pf
@Ariana-wv4pf 6 ай бұрын
Nope. Penny was his mistress.
@rachelbarrie5359
@rachelbarrie5359 6 ай бұрын
​@@Ariana-wv4pfdo you have evidence to support your theory?
@Todd_Manus
@Todd_Manus 6 ай бұрын
@@Ariana-wv4pf He was having a true heart to heart with his wife... and made it clear that it was not sexual.. Why would he be lying?
@hutch1197
@hutch1197 6 ай бұрын
Except that Philip already had a track record of infidelity. This woman wasn't a lifelong friend of the same age, like Porchey was for Elizabeth. She was a much younger woman who spent quite a bit of alone time with Philip. It wasn't even close to the same thing.
@edp3202
@edp3202 3 ай бұрын
​@@hutch1197💯. It was emotional and physical.
@Solitude1990
@Solitude1990 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, an emotional affair is just as bad if not worse than a physical one. It completely destroys whatever they have left at this age
@fourthgirl
@fourthgirl 2 ай бұрын
What destroys relationships is false notions. We cannot be all things to one person. What she liked about him was taken away when she became queen. He had no idea how their roles would shift. He found friends where he could be Philip.
@awill3992
@awill3992 Ай бұрын
@@fourthgirl You were part of their 47 year marriage? You were there and she told you this? You are speculating. And sliding your penis in other is not "finding friends where you can". God I hope you're not in a relationship
@sagesigman8269
@sagesigman8269 Ай бұрын
Dear God... Emotional Affair? He made a friend. If you expect the love of your life to have no friends then you will likely find that your "life" is rather short... as they will leave you one way or another... They will find their way to a new place in life... or they will find their way into the ground before either of you are ready. Romantic relationships cannot fill every need... I made that mistake once. Asking too much of the one I loved most... I lost them... forever beyond my reach
@zorkwork3841
@zorkwork3841 27 күн бұрын
But under the crcumstances I can understand this friendship..everything is so controlled it could drive you nuts.The queen took her duties seriously..She was only 21..Though I feel for her I also feel for Philip
@steveadams9957
@steveadams9957 17 күн бұрын
Not allways id rather an emotional affair than seeing my partner again and again sleeping with another man its a image that drives one to insanity i speak from experience i have experienced many disappointments in my years but never one so soul crushing as the betrayal runs so deep it breaks ones soul from the very core I had wifes with friendships to men and only that it was not at all hard to deal with as her sleeping with random men its an image that never really goes away until you part from them and it still takes many years to get rid of it 💔
@Brend.0
@Brend.0 6 ай бұрын
"me as your soul mate" I feel like the queen would never say that.
@awill3992
@awill3992 6 ай бұрын
Its Netflix sweetheart. Not real life.
@annehunt787
@annehunt787 6 ай бұрын
Did any of us really know Elizabeth II?
@SCALE.TIPPER
@SCALE.TIPPER 5 ай бұрын
This whole conversation probably never happened. It was unspoken.
@audience7264
@audience7264 5 ай бұрын
Indeed. A monarch by necessary stands alone.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 5 ай бұрын
@@Brend.0 You are probably correct, sir because I honestly don't think people used that expression back in the 1950s. "Me as your soul mate" hmmm. Nope.
@GTrefil
@GTrefil 2 ай бұрын
Emotional affairs are still affairs. That's why the word "affair" is in the phrase at all. It's a way to utterly betray your partner's trust while still feeling morally superior.
@steveadams9957
@steveadams9957 Ай бұрын
No because a friendship shouldn't have to be given up due to jealously as some people fulfill a side of you simply that your partner can't .and believe it or not men and women can have completely platonic relationships .most of my nest friend's have been women and we have seen each other naked slep in one bed cuddle laugh cry and not once did any side have a sexual thought nor think of it not betray they're partners in anyway a friendship is a deep as a soul mate simply a platonic one its a wonderful relationship ❤
@steveadams9957
@steveadams9957 Ай бұрын
So in essence the friendship doesn't replace the partnership you have with your spouse my ex spouse had male best friends i had female best friends and i was not jealous nor was she and in the rare event the other party of the friendship tried to take it further it's than something you must consider that if you continue a friendship with them you may be holding them back from finding someone who can give them what you cant
@GTrefil
@GTrefil Ай бұрын
@@steveadams9957 Platonic friendships with the opposite sex are fine. Emotional affairs are not limited to the opposite sex. Your comment sounds like the biggest piece of cheating bs I've ever heard though. Cuddling, sleeping together, being naked around each other, yeah. That's not a platonic friend. That's bs right there. But you already know that. You're just a troll seeking attention. Not responding to your troll twaddle again.
@evalynnchristiansen9430
@evalynnchristiansen9430 4 ай бұрын
Imelda Staunton was marvelous at playing the Queen. Her's was the hardest role to play, because we all knew and loved the last Queen. Please remember, this wasn't a documentary -- it was a drama based on real people.
@JDH3666
@JDH3666 6 ай бұрын
Late in the relationship to have this discussion! How sad
@KojinMacJorn
@KojinMacJorn Ай бұрын
Maybe. But they never stopped loving each other. They leaved each other right up until the day he died.
@heartofoak45
@heartofoak45 4 ай бұрын
He is conveniently forgetting he won The Lottery when he married Princess Elizabeth.
@EstrellaO-2023
@EstrellaO-2023 3 ай бұрын
But don't all people the justify affairs do that? "conveniently forget"...and conveniently remember?"
@heartofoak45
@heartofoak45 3 ай бұрын
@@EstrellaO-2023 They certainly attempt to justify matters to themselves.
@jessjess23brooks89
@jessjess23brooks89 Ай бұрын
He's certainly lucky she is as steadfast and 'boring' as he is complaining she is. If she were a touch more emotional, she'd have the power to do some funny things to punish him. This fictional Phillip always seemed to forget who his wife actually was lol.
@Sellot91
@Sellot91 Ай бұрын
​@jessjess23brooks89 He is a human being, and his needs were not being met and she cared more about her duty than her own family.
@seirrabrinson
@seirrabrinson 6 ай бұрын
woahhhh... this was a really intense scene😮🍿. not Phillip asking the Queen to be friends w/ (that people back in her time "would be considered the side chick) openly, nii.🤭😂
@MauriceTiberius-z2m
@MauriceTiberius-z2m 6 ай бұрын
"Who had the blood on their hands" in the deaths of the Romanovs? Philip is saying (not incorrectly) that it was King George V, who initially offered safe haven in England to them, and then revoked it.
@chinavaughan6383
@chinavaughan6383 5 ай бұрын
King George didn’t want any revolutionary ideas threatening his throne🙁
@kellyvaters1689
@kellyvaters1689 5 ай бұрын
@@chinavaughan6383 It's true. After three years of the bloodbath that was the Great War, George V and the Royal Family as a whole had come under intense scrutiny over their German roots, so much so that George V issued letters patent changing the name of the royal house from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor; by the same letters patent, the Tecks became Cambridges, the Battenbergs became Mountbattens, and the princesses of Schleswig-Holstein (one of whom the divorcee from Prince Aribert of Anhalt) ended up the Princesses of Nowhere.
@feistyjerseygirl
@feistyjerseygirl 5 ай бұрын
I think so.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei Ай бұрын
King George V was overruled by parliament.
@NarasimhaDiyasena
@NarasimhaDiyasena Ай бұрын
No it’s an unspoken reference to the House of Rothschilds who the ‘Firm’ that is the Royal Family is owned by, along with the British Empire that is the East India Company via the ‘Bank of England’ located in the ‘City of London Corproation’ which is neither in London nor England nor the United Kingdom but Imperial Roman Territory. Recall her ‘Vice Queen’ remark.
@AlexandraAndStuff
@AlexandraAndStuff 6 ай бұрын
what an epic bedroom, it's like from a painting
@awill3992
@awill3992 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering if this was actually a set they built, a room at a place already built or if its a green screen. It's spectacular.
@didi_mega_dudu
@didi_mega_dudu 4 ай бұрын
well, it is such
@just-tess
@just-tess 4 ай бұрын
right?? don't know if I'd get used to it or just feel oppressed
@MauriceRivers415
@MauriceRivers415 4 ай бұрын
@@awill3992 According to Google, Wrotham Park, Lancaster House, Wilton House, and Moor Park were used to represent Buckingham Palace and other grand buildings.
@manos_halki
@manos_halki 6 ай бұрын
Prince Philip was baptized Greek Orthodox but he always said he "felt Anglican." He attended Anglican services prior to marrying QE2.
@harringt100
@harringt100 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a bit far-fetched that he would make a big deal out of that.
@ausguy5052
@ausguy5052 6 ай бұрын
He might have said he "felt" Anglican but he definitely had far stronger feelings for Orthodoxy than Anglicanism, his mother Princess Alice had become an orthodox nun just as her aunt did (Philips great Aunt) Grand Duchess Elizabeth Fyodorovna both are buried in the Russian Orthodox Church Maria Magdalene in Jerusalem. Prince Philip and King Charles (who also has an affinity with orthodoxy via his father) donated several hundred thousand pounds to the Mt Athos Serbian monastery which was devastated by fire 20 years ago. Also the orthodox chants at the coronation was a nod to both his father, his grandmother and his own love. I dont think this was far fetched at all, I think Philip loved his orthodoxy and probably wanted to practice it openly but being married to the Supreme Governor of the Church of England made it impossible.
@JDH3666
@JDH3666 6 ай бұрын
@@ausguy5052 bravo
@marcokite
@marcokite 4 ай бұрын
What a great shame. Time for Orthodoxy! ☦☦☦☦☦☦☦
@kaybrown4010
@kaybrown4010 Ай бұрын
☦️
@illbuyourniknak
@illbuyourniknak Ай бұрын
KGV: Good ruler. Damn poor family man. Nicholas II: Good family man. Damn poor ruler.
@dancostello6465
@dancostello6465 6 ай бұрын
Philip was a penniless Greek Danish Prince and may have involved himself in Profumo Affair. Lonely for Show Girls.
@ShiningFriendship87
@ShiningFriendship87 5 ай бұрын
It was quite hypocritical of Elizabeth to ask Philip to end his friendship with Penny when he had to endure her friendship with Porchey for decades.
@wendyrodgers8474
@wendyrodgers8474 9 күн бұрын
Exactly, it was alright for the queen to thave an emotional friend , but not for Phillip when she,of course, was so busy with her duties of being queen of England. He had to be lonely. Otherwise, he would spend a lot of time by himself and that’s not good either. I’m sure too that she was lonely too, because, I’m sure It’s not a party all the time, especially with the media being always what it these days.She was loyal to England, yet I wish she was more of a hands on mom, Dimitri Dianna, but back then all the elite had Nannie’s raises their kids. Charles needed his mom so much. He obviously e introvert and needed a mother’s love badly . Charles actually is better looking now that he’s older then he ever was when was when was in his 20’s,30’s,40’s and 50’s. He seemed to have mellowed now too.I still he could have loved Dianna. I cried the day we all heard that she died in an accident. I’m sure the kids can’t help but have some emotional scars. We all loved her. Dianne and I were the same age and had 2 kids and married a person who wasn’t nice.Ive spend 26 years now single and I’m content. I would have loved to have met her . She seemed sincerely beautiful on the inside as well as the outside.
@sjn7688
@sjn7688 6 ай бұрын
Honestly this storyline just felt like a rehash of series 2. They wrote Prince Philip a bit badly in the Crown. (I don't mean realistically I mean purely for entertainment as a viewer). It was like the only time Philip was front and centre was when he was being hurtful to Elizabeth. After series 2 it was written as if there was going to be a shift in his story. (I say story because even though it's based on reality these Interpretations are characters). Season 3 he had his moments but after that he didn't really do much other than say a few words at the end of each episode. Now they bring him out again only to cause pain to Elizabeth. Philip wasn't a saint but the Crown left out a lot of the good things he did that could have been dramatised.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 6 ай бұрын
@sjn7688 Exactly! >"Philip wasn't a saint but the Crown left out a lot of the good things he did that could have been dramatized."
@JDH3666
@JDH3666 6 ай бұрын
@@here_we_go_again2571like what?
@Ariana-wv4pf
@Ariana-wv4pf 6 ай бұрын
What good things???
@flowermeerkat6827
@flowermeerkat6827 6 ай бұрын
@@Ariana-wv4pfdo some reading
@TruthTea77636
@TruthTea77636 4 ай бұрын
My ex said that he would be more concerned if I had sex with another other than him. Men often cheat just for the sex. Women usually have emotional affairs, and this can lead to a breakup. I said that cheating is why I am leaving
@pumpupjam9648
@pumpupjam9648 Ай бұрын
The blood on their hands is her grandfather George V.
@swmrgirl9979
@swmrgirl9979 5 ай бұрын
does she really believe that they are soulmates?? seems like she's kind of stuck her hand in the sand on that one. i would let him have his friendship and happiness, not as if they're losing something
@Whatsupbuttercup09
@Whatsupbuttercup09 3 күн бұрын
People are forgetting that within the show, Philip had not only this emotional affair but also a physical one.
@HannibelleStudio
@HannibelleStudio 6 ай бұрын
He had Penny, she had Poarchey
@startracker5895
@startracker5895 6 ай бұрын
The Queen was being a hypocrite with not wanting Philip being friends with Penny when she was close friends with Porchy for years. Especially as their friendship spread rumors of Porchy being Andrews read dad. Philip should have brought that up.
@RavenPendragon14
@RavenPendragon14 5 ай бұрын
Being childhood friends with a shared passion for horses is not the same as an emotional affair with a much younger woman who had a history of cheating with older men
@startracker5895
@startracker5895 5 ай бұрын
@@RavenPendragon14 I think horses weren’t the only thing the Queen and Porchy had in common. It was a very emotional friendship. Can you imagine how that made Philip feel? Pretty lousy I imagine. So I can understand him wanting his own back by having a female companion.
@bricktam
@bricktam 5 ай бұрын
@@RavenPendragon14 In addition to having an emotional friendship, it was a known fact that the Royal Family and firm preferred Porchey over Philip. And setting Philip aside, let's remember that Porchey had a wife putting up with this too.
@captivatednightshade1432
@captivatednightshade1432 5 ай бұрын
This broke my heart. I hope in real life this didn’t really happen.
@bricktam
@bricktam 5 ай бұрын
Even if it didn't, Philip and Penny were very close. Google images of them together. She was also one of the few people that was not an immediate relative invited to his funeral.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 4 ай бұрын
​​@@bricktam This was a very thoughtful and kind invitation from QE. She probably knew they were more than friends. Sad. To have Penny there was very BIG of the queen. It secretly may have broken 💔💔 her heart though. Again, BIG of the queen to extend an invitation to Philip's funeral. I'm guessing as a ( girl ) friend Penny would miss Philip too.
@pianoreigns
@pianoreigns Ай бұрын
These entitled people really like to indulge in self-pity. He's doing that to feel powerful.
@Rita-s1z5e
@Rita-s1z5e 6 ай бұрын
So that's where Charles got the audacity to keep a side piece while being married. I knew he didn't lick it off a stone.
@evalynnchristiansen9430
@evalynnchristiansen9430 5 ай бұрын
Where did diana get the audacity to keep quite a few side pieces?
@john.premose
@john.premose 5 ай бұрын
For royalty, especially men, that has always been common. Look at Charles II. He had mistresses everywhere and half the aristocracy traces back to his illegitimate children.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 5 ай бұрын
@@evalynnchristiansen9430 Very well said! LoL 😆.
@iluop3623
@iluop3623 4 ай бұрын
The apple does not fall far from tree
@rachelcastillo1742
@rachelcastillo1742 2 ай бұрын
The “I’ve had to seek a companion”, pisses me off. The man knew what he was getting into when he married her. He didn’t have to seek anything. Like him, she just wanted a normal life, a loving partner, and children. He acts as if he was the only one who had to give up something. She had to give up herself to become the queen that she was.
@PhynS-z4r
@PhynS-z4r 2 ай бұрын
What about Porchie?
@rachelcastillo1742
@rachelcastillo1742 2 ай бұрын
@@PhynS-z4r True. They both messed up on that department. Still, why do they make it seem like she was more willing to tolerate his “companions” than he was willing to accept hers. He complained all the time about Porchey. When Phillip made his mistakes, she was like “I can look away” or “Why couldn’t it just be a secretary”.
@PhynS-z4r
@PhynS-z4r 2 ай бұрын
@@rachelcastillo1742 Because it's nothing but a fictional drama show. As the producers themselves frequently said. It's fictional, not real, not a documentary, not accurate. They didn't chat with the Royal family while writing this, they based it on some historical markers and gossip.
@rachelcastillo1742
@rachelcastillo1742 2 ай бұрын
I understand this is fiction, what I’m trying to say is that … Fictional or real, people get married for better or worse. You don’t need to seek a companionship because things are getting too hard. You have to try and work together. Marriage isn’t always perfect which is what made this one so real. The things is you don’t embarrass your partner as a way to cope with why things are so bad at the moment.
@PhynS-z4r
@PhynS-z4r 2 ай бұрын
@@rachelcastillo1742 That's a very idealistic and naive perspective. It's nice to view marriage and life as such. Reality is different though.
@teriannebeauchamp254
@teriannebeauchamp254 5 ай бұрын
Phillip had a very good education and continued learning from everything I have read. The Queen received little or no education according to everything I have read excecpt for her lessons in constutional law. and really from what I have read never had the desire to keep up with modern ideas.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 5 ай бұрын
QE supposedly questioned her mother the queen mum, why she didn't enroll her and Margaret in the university of formal education. Maybe QE felt left out. Sad. I think she did keep up with modern times because so often the queen knew about technology and knew about current events and history as well and I think QE may have updated or broken some royal rules in her time...
@fifilindman
@fifilindman 5 ай бұрын
The Queen continued her education as an adult through private tutelage
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 5 ай бұрын
@@fifilindman Very good for QE !! She really did have her own mind and was keen and I'm sensing very astute.
@springstud
@springstud 4 ай бұрын
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc prince Philip was ahead of his time with saving the earth with pollution
@TheSaltydog07
@TheSaltydog07 28 күн бұрын
Being a lover of history and cinema, I'm besotted by this series. Of course, I fact check 😊
@user-peach408
@user-peach408 23 күн бұрын
He only ever talked about what he wanted or what he sacrificed (poor pitiful Phillip) never asking about her hopes and dreams or what she needed.
@lourdesrangel5836
@lourdesrangel5836 5 ай бұрын
Discussing differences after 50 years of mariage 😂😂😂
@girl1213
@girl1213 3 ай бұрын
Why do you think divorces happen even after length of time in marriage?
@rockerfarm6445
@rockerfarm6445 2 ай бұрын
well, constant communication is neccessary
@christinechandler5690
@christinechandler5690 13 күн бұрын
What did Philip give up. A penniless, stateless, minor prince by his own account. He was good-looking and captured the attention of a princess who loved him until she died.
@JohnAnderson-hr4qc
@JohnAnderson-hr4qc 7 күн бұрын
Still couldn't give up the fact he 2:23 wasn't the same royal level she was
@1GoodWoman
@1GoodWoman 3 ай бұрын
The arrogance of royalty is well shown here. Elizabeth and now Charles never questioned the fact that their power is born from violence.
@ursaltydog
@ursaltydog 6 ай бұрын
She had Porchey.... why not him have friendship with an equal of his intellect?
@bricktam
@bricktam 6 ай бұрын
I think because Penny was physically a beautiful younger woman, which stirs jealousy in Elizabeth and potential controversy. I found it satisfying in the next season (The Ritz Episode) when Philip doesn't go to the birthday dinner and Elizabeth tries to make him jealousy that "dependable" Porchey is. Philip is not only unfazed but is more content now that he had Penny.
@startracker5895
@startracker5895 6 ай бұрын
@@bricktamPorchy was a handsome young man and Philip had to put up with his wife’s friendship with him. Plus there were already rumors that Porchy was Andrews real dad. So Philip had to put up with that as well. So the Queen was being rather hypocritical.
@bricktam
@bricktam 6 ай бұрын
@@startracker5895 oh absolutely. It also didn’t help that the royal family showed preference to Porchey over him. I just think that Elizabeth had a more fragile ego when it came to Philip, but it’s nice to see her get a taste of her own medicine, not just because of her friendship with Porchey but her inability to support her own family with their soulmates: Margaret and Peter, Charles and Camilla.
@ursaltydog
@ursaltydog 6 ай бұрын
@@bricktam Yes, everyone needs a bestie.. and often that is of the opposite sex. Just no sex involved.
@evalynnchristiansen9430
@evalynnchristiansen9430 5 ай бұрын
@@ursaltydog I don't know why some people don't understand that.
@just-tess
@just-tess 4 ай бұрын
if they're 'just friends' why was it apparently all but a secret from her...
@girl1213
@girl1213 3 ай бұрын
Because everyone loves the idea that the only reason a man much too old for a woman only wants her for sex. Everyone loves the idea that people are ruled by their loins. Everyone loves drama and misery. Everyone loves being a victim Everyone wants a conspiracy and will do everything in their power to make one because people *can't* accept people want more then sex
@bridgecross
@bridgecross 5 ай бұрын
The High Sparrow just can't seem to get along with any Queen.
@katetaleska7352
@katetaleska7352 3 ай бұрын
Better yet ' bodily' companionship sir.
@raechelcleberg8854
@raechelcleberg8854 Ай бұрын
Great actors but the subject, my heart's breaking.
@JK-tr2mt
@JK-tr2mt Ай бұрын
Who has the blood on their hands? Old grandfather George the 5th? Wouldn't let Nicky and has family move to the UK. Queenie knows.
@elaiinejennings5426
@elaiinejennings5426 9 күн бұрын
Allegedly, Andrew does NOT belong to Philip.
@ReaverLordTonus
@ReaverLordTonus 2 ай бұрын
As much as I hate to side with Phillip here, I have to say I do in this instance. The Queen is asking him to cease making friends who can give him what she hasn't and that's not remotely fair. He's not sleeping around with anyone; he's just spending time with people who share common interests. She has made it a point to make her life empty with no friends and expects everyone else in her family to do the same. If she feels uncomfortable that her husband prefers spending time with people because it makes him happy then she should take a closer look at herself and ask why she isn't one of those people.
@jackrabbit768
@jackrabbit768 6 ай бұрын
Phillip was a good looking, tall thin man My lotd, what a chisel. He would go and stay somewhere months at a time You not daying Queen 11 cheated?
@cl5470
@cl5470 Ай бұрын
He looked like a praying mantis. Not handsome in the least. To each their own, I suppose.
@brt5273
@brt5273 5 күн бұрын
​@@cl5470as if you're some sort of objective authority on looks.
@gabespiro8902
@gabespiro8902 Ай бұрын
Jeez it’s no wonder it takes so long for any of us to get along Christians don’t even like other Christians
@miilka487
@miilka487 6 ай бұрын
Im confused is he asking for her permission to cheat?
@vodkagal28
@vodkagal28 6 ай бұрын
No, he's asking her to let him have friends that share his interests.
@girl1213
@girl1213 3 ай бұрын
No He's asking her to let him be friends with someone who just happens to be a young woman. No matter what people think of Penny and Philip, you can't accus without *hard* evidence. Just being with someone who happens to be in the same carriage as you isn't hard evidence. Innocent until proven guilty and they were *never* guilty of anything. An emotional connection isn't a crime. An emotional affair is, but a connection? We might as well not be human if we didn't have emotional connections.
@cl5470
@cl5470 Ай бұрын
​@girl1213 his will was most likely made private because the two had a child together, but you believe what you want. 😂
@girl1213
@girl1213 29 күн бұрын
@@cl5470 Once again, I ask where the proof is.
@doriskirkpatrick345
@doriskirkpatrick345 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@caephi2594
@caephi2594 2 ай бұрын
He is his son’s father after all
@PhynS-z4r
@PhynS-z4r 2 ай бұрын
And the Queen is her son's mother. He had companionship in Penny, she had companionship in Porchie.
@tarawrr20
@tarawrr20 6 ай бұрын
Who asks that of his wife?
@private-private
@private-private 6 ай бұрын
At least he asked his wife, his wife never asked him to do the same for her with Porchey? Or is that simply how all women roll? I suspect it is.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 6 ай бұрын
@@private-private The circumstances were different. The Knatchbull's weren't very happy. Norton (Charles' friend and cousin) had run off to his hideaway on an island in the Caribbean with his (rather hot) mistress; promising to leave Penny and to marry her. Meanwhile he had left Penny and the children back in the UK. Meanwhile Penny that taken on the responsibilities of running the estate as well as a (semi) civil service position in the local town. However, their daughter got sick and Norton came back to the UK to see his daughter. *Meanwhile the mistresses* *dumped Norton for a younger/richer guy.* (When Norton didn't return quickly from the UK) Norton's and Penny's daughter didn't recover! She had a long illness with various painful treatments that failed to stop the spread of the cancer (She was a very brave little girl). Porchey (Henry Herbert, Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon) and Elizabeth had grown up together. He and his wife, Jeanie mingled socially with Elizabeth and Philip. She was one of Elizabeth's friends. Both Elizabeth and Philip visited her family in Wyoming USA, when they were on a Canada/US tour. Early in both of their marriages they were busy with their own families. But they still mingled socially with the Carnarvon's (Porchy's 3 kids are about Prince Andrew's age, give or take a year or so) She really didn't get that much into the horses and travel to the USA to see stud farms and elsewhere about the horses until Charles and Anne were teenagers. *Also, Elizabeth as well as Philip were trying* *to do what her father had envisioned for the* *Commonweath;* [1] *in the early part of *her reign* Philip and some of his friends had given up polo because their bodies couldn't take it anymore (Age 50 is about the max age for polo -- frequent falls from the horses). They decided to start competitive carriage driving (It was already a big deal in the Netherlands and the rest of continental Europe) Philip and his friends decided that it they could compete with their continental friends in a sport that the media didn't care about! [Incredibly boring to watch!] ___________________________ 1.) *George VI's plan* was that he and Elizabeth, Queen consort (the Queen Mum) would do the lion's share of the traveling all over the Commonwealth to shore it up. But he got sick and died young. George VI believed that the UK had to help the former colonies resist Communism (because a revolution was easy to start with the help of the old Soviet KGB) by trade deals, education scholarships, etc..
@raysivley
@raysivley 6 ай бұрын
If he were the monarch, this conversation would never be relevant. Kings have acted like he did for centuries and no one bats an eye. Look at Charles.
@raysivley
@raysivley 6 ай бұрын
If he were the monarch, this conversation would never be relevant. Kings have acted like he did for centuries and no one bats an eye. Look at Charles.
@lisamcmullan6484
@lisamcmullan6484 6 ай бұрын
Well I suppose he was lonely,but no one realised that.
@Jules-916
@Jules-916 2 ай бұрын
Matt Smith is looking different nowadays
@Twentythousandlps
@Twentythousandlps 5 ай бұрын
Since we have had multiple scenes of Phillip's discontents, none of this would be news to the Queen.
@fomcgirl
@fomcgirl 2 ай бұрын
Every clip of The Crown that I see, I keep thinking that it didn't really happen like that. It is so hypothetical. Sure there were clearly discussions about these issues never said so directly or as succinctly as this factious tv show.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei Ай бұрын
The Crown is largely fiction based on matters which did happen - and many which did not.
@thevenusian1314
@thevenusian1314 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I imagine a marriage between a Gemini and a Taurus...
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc 4 ай бұрын
I think so too! These two astrological signs are NOT compatible. Very different! It's a shame that Elizabeth didn't meet Lord Porchester when she was 13 and then date him when she was older and eventually marry him! I read a while ago that Porchester was a Capricorn ♑🐐. Taurus ♉🐂 and Cappy get along very well. The Gemini Prince Philip was very happy with Penny who is Aries that is a very good combination! But they would never meet due to the age difference obviously. Yep. I get into this stuff. LoL 🤣 Oh well. Much too late to bring this up though.🎉🎉🎉
@Whatsupbuttercup09
@Whatsupbuttercup09 4 ай бұрын
Trust me… it is. I’m a Taurus woman and my ex was Gemini man… it was horrendous
@SiddhiShandilya-vu6so
@SiddhiShandilya-vu6so 3 ай бұрын
I don’t believe prince philip ever cheated or betrayed the queen
@girl1213
@girl1213 3 ай бұрын
No, he never did. The problem with people is that they want to believe in the worst. As hard as it is to believe, some people just find it easier to connect with the opposite gender, a different generation or both. People want connection, but often we trick ourselves into believing there's alternative motions to why someone wants a connection. It's like wanting connection for connection's sake is an alien way of thinking to a lot of people.
@RoseRedd-k4b
@RoseRedd-k4b 4 ай бұрын
Phil why did you get married to her then? I mean come on now
@kentvesser9484
@kentvesser9484 2 ай бұрын
A lot of people get married without thinking through how their little differences may become very big differences in the future. They don't have the wisdom in their youth to realize that love often is not enough.
@RoseRedd-k4b
@RoseRedd-k4b 2 ай бұрын
@@kentvesser9484 well said
@priscillajimenez27
@priscillajimenez27 Ай бұрын
Didnt philip get jealous of Elizabeth's male childhood friend back in the day?
@brt5273
@brt5273 5 күн бұрын
If he did, it didn't stop her continuing her relationship with Porchy.
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei Ай бұрын
This is The Crown. Largely fictional. The producers had to put disclaimers on episodes that The Crown is largely fictional based on some events which really did happen. How would anyone know about this conversation?
@iasunflower2944
@iasunflower2944 2 ай бұрын
Who knows if this is true or not, but The Crown did not portray Philip in a great light...
@PhynS-z4r
@PhynS-z4r 2 ай бұрын
It's fictional
@drewnealski969
@drewnealski969 6 ай бұрын
Loved this show up until the last two seasons. The casting was dreadful. I hate seeing Imelda Staunton in any role. Pryce also made a terrible Prince Philip. I enjoy him in most roles.
@evalynnchristiansen9430
@evalynnchristiansen9430 5 ай бұрын
I genuinely love Imelda. Why do you hate her? And why do you think Pryce made a terrible Prince Philip? I'm serious about these two questions and really want to know what you base your opinions on.
@danielle-g3k
@danielle-g3k 5 ай бұрын
I thought he played Philip brilliantly.
@E.R.Hewitt
@E.R.Hewitt 6 ай бұрын
That was horrendous writing
@davidozersky412
@davidozersky412 3 ай бұрын
There’s some historical context here, Mountbatten Phillips uncle and surrogate father made it his life’s work to see Phillip marry Elizabeth. In my opinion he groomed them both, introducing Phillip to her when she was 14 and getting him to flirt with her. They were not a good match at all. She should’ve married Porchey. Sometimes you’ve got to listen to your parents!
@paulashe61
@paulashe61 4 ай бұрын
It’s a tv show
@lulupamplona
@lulupamplona 2 ай бұрын
Babies
@Quick-n-eg쿠이크앤이지
@Quick-n-eg쿠이크앤이지 27 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be grand if Christians are united in Christ? Our world is getting smaller.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 14 күн бұрын
It would play let's be honest when you have people in the church who want to have liberal ideas that makes those churches smaller and smaller
@katisugarbaker7349
@katisugarbaker7349 16 күн бұрын
This dialogue is not very convincing. Nor interesting.
@eudianamartinsofc
@eudianamartinsofc 6 ай бұрын
👀
@irawilliams343
@irawilliams343 5 ай бұрын
This scene proves what a weak and insecure man Philip really is
@cavaliermama56
@cavaliermama56 5 ай бұрын
Phillip was a spoiled brat.
@johnnydavis3866
@johnnydavis3866 4 ай бұрын
WEREN'T THEY COUSINS TOO EWWW😂😂😂
@Rosemary-vf5ei
@Rosemary-vf5ei Ай бұрын
Third cousins. Nothing wrong with that. Victoria and Albert were first cousins.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 5 ай бұрын
Queen "who" Philip "in essence its a group of us...." "Jeffrey Epstein, Prince Andrew, Tom Hanks, Joe Biden, Obama, The Clintons, Rolph Harris, Jimmy Saville. You know, good honest men who all seek companionship"
@connieechols2111
@connieechols2111 5 ай бұрын
You forgot one! DONALD TRUMP
@davidedutremblay5050
@davidedutremblay5050 3 ай бұрын
Dench was the wrong choice for Queen
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