Defrauding patients, no problem, defrauding investors, big no no
@hwago1232 жыл бұрын
don't screw over the people with money! They have recourse.
@huzcer2 жыл бұрын
There was simply more proof that she DIRECTLY defrauded the investors with all the lies. That's how proof works funnily enough!
@chivasowle2862 жыл бұрын
Who cares about health when money is on the line?
@Johannesburg7772 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@batmeme93492 жыл бұрын
Turn the oil dollar to oil euro = war
@yourmommashouse2 жыл бұрын
She had her kids just to make the judges decision at sentencing that much more difficult.. She is THAT calculating.
@gailgonzales85822 жыл бұрын
You are so right!!!!
@jimbarrofficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes, sociopath, narcissist, etc.. this is what they do - she's a victim all the way around. My guess is the voice went up about 2 octaves and will go up even higher when allowed to make the perfunctory statement before sentencing.
@kenziej51502 жыл бұрын
Absurd!! Her maternal clock was ticking and she knew if not now then she could never have children so she seized her opportunity. It’s biology.
@Chaz2yacom2 жыл бұрын
Aren't all women? lol
@billyponsonby2 жыл бұрын
How could you know this for certain? Were you there when it happened? Anyway, it’s pathetic just to mention it.
@ben40322 жыл бұрын
she’s a sociopath. everything this piece described was her trying to humanize herself in the face of these charges and not that she had remorse.
@IZotit2 жыл бұрын
I thought she was pregnant too lol did she not say that 6 months ago when the trial started?
@anbee81272 жыл бұрын
Psychopath more than sociopath. I doubt she feels anything.
@anbee81272 жыл бұрын
@@GlennC789 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJXZaa2AnsyaeNU There's more content though this is pretty crisp.
@Keepmywifesnameoutyafucknmouth2 жыл бұрын
Shut up Ben
@danyoungrasshopper30082 жыл бұрын
There's a dude out there who put a baby in this crazy lady.
@Danbach902 жыл бұрын
She’s a scammer. 4 out of 11 sounds like she’s getting off easy.
@hilal_younus2 жыл бұрын
There’s a pattern in which the 7 were pardoned too… The 4 charges she was guilty of, where all ones made by the rich investors and the other millionaires… Meanwhile, the other 7 were more serious charges, like conspiracy to defraud patients (which is what mainly has been the point of this trial), yet the trial, didn’t think she was guilty for all those charges, smh… it just shows that the justice system is just for the elites…
@LLAALALA2 жыл бұрын
@@priapulida Well do you think she is guilty or not on the 4 charges she is convicted of? If she is how does that have anything to do with gender?
@burtonl72392 жыл бұрын
@@hilal_younus The verdict was made by a jury who were presented with the facts. Jury selection is relatively random. So unless the jury, which are common people, are biased in favor of the elites in the first place, your conspiracy theory doesn't hold water.
@phylae49212 жыл бұрын
Yes...she’s getting off easy.... and this is no surprising.
@109sssss2 жыл бұрын
@@burtonl7239 the jury felt sorry for her
@hyacinthlynch8432 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Dr. Phyllis Gardener, the Stanford professor who was very skeptical of the claims made by Theranos, and regarded Holmes as a sociopath.
@Ironboots1232 жыл бұрын
Any judge and jurors should be offended that Holmes played the innocent victim card (the man made me do it) and had the nerve to get impregnated knowing she would attempt to manipulate the judge and jurors using an innocent baby. Master manipulator at her best. 🤦♂️
@amjds13412 жыл бұрын
She is a master con artist. Glad that it has concluded well
@toolegit2quit1732 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she is an amoral sociopath…..she belongs in prison with the rest of them.
@sebastianfairchild47332 жыл бұрын
If all in was a word SMH. She deserves an Oscar.
@sebastianfairchild47332 жыл бұрын
@@toolegit2quit173 I looked up both sociopath and psychopath and tryna figure out the difference was interesting.
@theend94942 жыл бұрын
greed kills
@pb.j.17532 жыл бұрын
She put real patients lives at risk with her "technology" and false data! How she did no get convicted for that is beyond me.
@chrisconsorte78932 жыл бұрын
It’s called privilege!! 😡😡😡
@tony_472 жыл бұрын
People probably signed a contract
@AtillatheFun2 жыл бұрын
Whose life was at risk? Please give me one example of a death related to the results of a Theranos test? I will wait.
@xukeepax12862 жыл бұрын
@@AtillatheFun Please give me one example of you having a brain? I will wait.
@nadiabonnici77882 жыл бұрын
you are so right that was the most important part of all.once i got a false diagnose from a student cause the gyne didn,t want to get up from her chair and than i decided to visit a private gyne this time as i didn,t have any symptoms of what she said i got and he said no you don,t have nothing so thank god i didn,t take the medicine she prescribed.snce than if i go to hospital or clinic again and this happens again i will tell the doctor please do you mind come and see cause this happened to me
@decembersveryown59352 жыл бұрын
Before fraud case: Imma strong, intelligent and powerfull women After fraud cases: Imma innocent and helpless victim.
@jamie63872 жыл бұрын
It's always the same thing with these criminals. No matter the crime, they always want to play victim. The sad part is, the courts going easy on them. We the people deserve better.
@USBEN.2 жыл бұрын
Typical wahman
@springsnapped54352 жыл бұрын
Mhm
@decembersveryown59352 жыл бұрын
@@dallypurcy3113 that fact that you typed a paragraph to respond to what little I said makes you more miserable than I. I mean, if Im such an incel beta...why do you care what I think? Let us incel betas be broke and miserable in peace. 😂😂😂 Also, thanks for the spelling correction. Never above being corrected. 😂😂😂. Im also willing to put my salary up as a 20 year diesel tech to yours. Ready?
@baiaforev24072 жыл бұрын
She's a fake a a disgrace to women who want to be taken seriously
@xdonnix2 жыл бұрын
Her dad was a an exec at Enron. Clearly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
@ronaldwashington57152 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@is82492 жыл бұрын
He’s got to be involved. No one invests in such a young person unless she herself has the tech & know how, not just ideas.
@affanorama2 жыл бұрын
Omg.... 😂😂😂😂
@Koleys2 жыл бұрын
@@is8249 well she does come from old money and that’s sort of how the riches work
@is82492 жыл бұрын
@@Koleys I know. This lady had the audacity to claim to come from a middle class family in an old interview. Who’s gonna believe her?
@snsn72512 жыл бұрын
Disappointed in the jurors. How is she not guilty for defrauding patients who's lives she put at risk? Like seriously?! Who are these jurors?
@markjoseph1962 жыл бұрын
That’s why trial by jury sucks! expensive ,time consuming and can be very frustrating…
@jusletursoulglobaby2 жыл бұрын
I think bc the tests were completed albeit through other testing processes
@rmfinance17812 жыл бұрын
The Karen effect 🤣
@laturista10002 жыл бұрын
8 jurors are men. She charmed those men with her pouty face, blue eyes and remorseful words and delivery. She's a born con artist. She's gifted at that.
@msdadsfsx2 жыл бұрын
She is white n mother which is in her favour
@JohnD3572 жыл бұрын
I love how some women want to be portrayed as "powerful", but when caught doing something wrong, they retreat to the old worn out "a man made me do it". She deserves a few extra years on her sentence just for pulling that nonsense.
@janetsavona75902 жыл бұрын
Thats everybody's defense today They were sexually molested Their too screwed up to be held responsible
@kenziej51502 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about????
@JohnD3572 жыл бұрын
@@kenziej5150 Are you not paying attention?
@cam1292 жыл бұрын
@@kenziej5150 did you miss the part of blaming her ex brown boyfriend and her COO (I think) of sexually abusing/controlling her and thus could not make decisions? It is on this video. He goes on trial soon (next year) and I bet he will be charged for more counts than this liar and con artist!
@JohnD3572 жыл бұрын
@@cam129 I don't know that the "brown" part is meaningful unless you think every white person is racist. But she sure is looking to deflect blame. I saw an interesting video on the Prison Professors KZbin channel about what she can do to prepare for sentencing and she might want to pay attention to it.
@papajohnsuk59652 жыл бұрын
disgusting, she even stabs her ex boyfriend in the back & gets pregnant just for the jury to have sympathy on her.
@la7dfa2 жыл бұрын
She is cute, rich and white. I bet she could get a pardon if Orange Face was president.
@papajohnsuk59652 жыл бұрын
@@la7dfa even he wouldnt stoop this low. She has everything calculated, dont know how guys want to be with her since they're just a means to an end for her.
@simplyyellow62402 жыл бұрын
who impregnant her?
@aragon91732 жыл бұрын
@@la7dfa psychopaths get away a lot with murder. You can be whatever color you want
@papajohnsuk59652 жыл бұрын
@@simplyyellow6240 me
@theonly1-662 жыл бұрын
In watching her interviews from past years, she has perfected the art of saying nothing!
@cheska74562 жыл бұрын
Very much likely a republican✌🏻
@druid1392 жыл бұрын
She'll run for President some day.
@jeffreydavis25782 жыл бұрын
@@cheska7456 Alzheimer’s Joe is trying to end the filibuster? The people you idiots vote into office are gonna ruin this country
@tchen612 жыл бұрын
Should have run for public office. Can also defraud people without being charged as crimes
@bdflatlander2 жыл бұрын
She’s a perfect example of someone who talks a lot but doesn’t say anything of substance. Her only intent is to confuse and deceive, right down to her fake voice.
@elck32 жыл бұрын
The sexual allegations had a) nothing to do with the case of her question of complicity yet b) it was indeed used just to give some sort of (“me too” / poor woman) angle. Frankly, that’s despicable. I truly hope it was not true what she said, but those text messages clearly show otherwise. It was clearly a consensual relationship.
@johncheet76252 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought, how did that relate??? Oh he made me do it, I'm a helpless victim. She's slimey
@daudkhan42182 жыл бұрын
Thats why I urge my brown brothers and black brothers to stay away from white women but no they are gonna marry white women to level up as if they are in a tournament 🤣
@CloudWalkBeta2 жыл бұрын
@@daudkhan4218 kevin samuels has a point on that, when you got ‘big thic shirley’, coming on all bossy and nagging and your brothers are trying their best to avoid her XD
@warpnin32 жыл бұрын
@@daudkhan4218 Isn't this a bit racist? Judging women by the color of their skin?
@daudkhan42182 жыл бұрын
@@warpnin3 could be but there are thousand of cases like that white gals marrying rich black or brown than put them in jail in false case
@lolalee70712 жыл бұрын
4 out of 11! She’s more lucky than her investors and patients!
@eyeheartsushi22122 жыл бұрын
IKR
@bruno32 жыл бұрын
I have no pity for the investors. They were all extremely wealthy investors, some of them with a well-known history of shady practices. They should've known better, but greed clouded their judgment. I'm just sorry for the patients who got inaccurate test results. They were the real victims.
@mujer_AnaNikka2 жыл бұрын
@Bruno and whistleblowers had saved them for further destruction
@N.A5252 жыл бұрын
I’m sure she also regrets the suicide of one of her former employees. Instead of giving condolences to the wife, asked for company property back. That is evil
@Koleys2 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart that his suicide isn’t spoken about more.
@AO-Love Жыл бұрын
I would have cursed her fake voice a$$ out. How dare she?
@LoneTinaja2 жыл бұрын
“Her Felonious Fall”, a poem - The jury didn’t buy all that she was sellin’. Texas Liz, now a 4 time felon.
@bloochoob2 жыл бұрын
Instead of Thelonious Monk on the piano 🎹 she’s Felonious Punk on the fiddle 🎻
@prometheus57002 жыл бұрын
@@bloochoob And Sunny Felons on sax
@l.whansen96112 жыл бұрын
She's a sick person.She deserves no sympathy
@reidloscidem35622 жыл бұрын
@2jz 240sx And that's the name of the game. Scam people for millions, get a slap on the wrist, then come out like it never happened. But let a kid steal a few candy bars from a store and get a few months juvy time. The system favors the rich.
@greggomez63532 жыл бұрын
Her husband is a total idiot to even get involved in this sociopath. The lady is nuts!
@nathankoon77492 жыл бұрын
crazy in the head, crazy in the bed
@cam1292 жыл бұрын
You will be surprised how some people love crazy people. She is a fraud, liar, and a con artist, and she has been like this since she was young. He has stated people don’t know the real person and the media has it wrong about her. 🙄 He comes from a very wealthy family. The person I feel mostly sorry for is her kid. He has to live with a mother, who has not accomplished anything in life but has used her looks and manipulation to get what she wants, including his father.
@Samuels-nz9em2 жыл бұрын
He can find any attractive young woman with a better background but still he chooses to throw it away for this, A simp is a simp. Rich or poor
@ferociousgumby2 жыл бұрын
I can see why SHE cultivated HIM - he's going to come in to a HUGE inheritance when his Dad kicks off. I wouldn't put it past her to "arrange" such a thing. Maybe she can hire Sunny as a hit man? He's a little short on work now.
@nathankoon77492 жыл бұрын
@@Samuels-nz9em you woulda thought 'hey are you being indicted on federal charges' would have eventually popped up
@doingtime202 жыл бұрын
As always just saying what people want to hear, this woman is all about calculating and manipulating. Regular people have a hard time understanding that some people lack any moral or empathy for others. She is just sorry she got caught.
@ronlyon46452 жыл бұрын
well said.
@ferociousgumby2 жыл бұрын
This is a woman who had a baby in order to get jury sympathy or a lighter sentence. Diane Downs tried that, too - she shot her kids and tried to get off by having a baby while awaiting trial. Didn't work, and the child grew up horribly stigmatized and had a terrible life. But EH wouldn't bat an eyelash (not that she ever closes her eyes) at producing a human being to get out of punishment for her crimes.
@prometheus57002 жыл бұрын
@@ferociousgumby Child of a narcissist sociopath = Rough road ahead.
@eyeheartsushi22122 жыл бұрын
@@ferociousgumby “…(not that she ever closes her eyes)” So true.
@xpengfangirl79422 жыл бұрын
are you a woman hater?
@dukeofdubuque9502 жыл бұрын
Her father was the vice president of Enron. I guess he taught her a few things growing up.
@4evertrue8302 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha so true.
@4evertrue8302 жыл бұрын
Now i see why she got four counts out of eleven perhaps her father must have influenced the judge somehow.
@KandeShack2 жыл бұрын
What a freak! As someone who works for the largest esoteric laboratory in the nation, this is such a disgraceful fraud of a person! She approached our CEO and they turned her away immediately! May she rot in prison!
@tl31392 жыл бұрын
Which voice did she testify in?
@nathankoon77492 жыл бұрын
apparently the batman voice
@missybeegood53592 жыл бұрын
What a joke she is- we the people clearly see- high pitched voice ,low pitched voice, Manly clothes,girly clothes, sorry,not sorry-
@kenziej51502 жыл бұрын
@@nathankoon7749 looooool. Not the Batman voice 🤣
@johns61762 жыл бұрын
😂
@Bear_Arms2 жыл бұрын
She'll do five years tops. She'll write a book while in prison, and she'll get a consulting job when she leaves prison. Not that she needs a job, her husband is part of a very wealthy family
@romulus_2 жыл бұрын
i'm guessing she'll be sentenced to 8-12 years and will serve 5-7.
@Iron-Bridge2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Don't need to be an oracle to see that. Can see her doing the talk show rounds or podcasts a decade from now, shilling her memoirs and still selling the strong independent act.
@warpnin32 жыл бұрын
She will run the prison from her cell, and owe the prison population a total of seven hundred and eighty cartons of cigarettes.
@chan6252 жыл бұрын
Nah, she'll get pregnant again with her second child and convert that into a slap on the wrist
@TheMarmite092 жыл бұрын
I thought each sentence is 20 years? She was sentenced to four of of these.
@narektifekchian49302 жыл бұрын
“Fraud is very hard to prove” dozens of phone calls showing proof of the complete opposite of what she confirmed with multiple investors 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@Samuels-nz9em2 жыл бұрын
If you listen to the badblood podcast then you realize how manipulate and dangerous this woman was. Imagine being her employee, it's like working for a demon
@XPrincess302 жыл бұрын
Sounds like every boss I’ve had
@noire68452 жыл бұрын
These tech startup CEO need to know that wearing a black turtleneck wont make them Steve Job.
@lornarettig32152 жыл бұрын
It’s remarkable how aggression and bullying didn’t in fact magic up a successful company around her, isn’t it?
@arpitdas42632 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they have orange turtlenecks in jail
@mojoboo412 жыл бұрын
LOL
@sarabeth80502 жыл бұрын
Well deserved conviction. However, it must be said that the smart money all laughed at her because her claims were ridiculous to anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the healthcare industry. The folks who invested in her company deserved to be taken because they had no understanding of the science nor did they hire real experts to advise them. The only assays that sort of worked of Theranos were all PCR based (which any smart high schooler could set up) which does nothing to analyze lipids, sterols, and proteins--the most important assays in blood tests. Any decent investor who just asked some questions would have learned that and not invested a penny.
@phoenixjim05272 жыл бұрын
Don’t be so swarmy. She tricked and fooled *many* smart, well-educated people - all over the place, from media to investors to employees. I still remember reading an early article about her in _Wired_ . There’s lots of psychology and sociology that can be unpacked here. :: Shame on her for misusing her (incomplete) Stanford education. She’s a greedy sociopath. She’s like a Milliken, Madoff, Trump, etc.
@janetsavona75902 жыл бұрын
I agree I don't know how anybody bought that My Doctor takes 3 tubes when I go She probably figured she could prey on people that are afraid to take a blood test
@FourthWayRanch2 жыл бұрын
LOL, they all knew is was a scam, they just keep quiet cause they're hoping to cash in on the IPO and get out before the suckers are caught holding the bag. It's classic biotech pump and dump, holmes and balwanis only mistake was not coming up with and exit strategy or a plausible excuse for failure insulating your from prosecution for fraud. I worked in biotech for years, trust me 99% of it is let's blind them with science snake oil salesmanship.
@JohnD3572 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've been involved in healthcare benefits for almost 40 years. When the medical director at the time at the new company I started with was fawning all over the Theranos potential, it didn't pass the smell test for me. There are certain physical reasons why some things like blood tests require the amount of blood they require. The company was a scam from the beginning.
@FourthWayRanch2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnD357 Entresto is a scam too
@taniavorster88562 жыл бұрын
I work for a Pathology company-AND NO WAY can we get away with these lies this lady choked up - we get an internal audit and a national audit !!! - HOW IS IT POSSIBLE that her firm was not ❓❓❓❓❓
@DavidPerez-sq3cj2 жыл бұрын
Right off the bat, this story was far too favorable to her, seeing as they still call her monstrous fraud lab a "startup." It's an affront to founders and employees at real startups with real products.
@terrym12672 жыл бұрын
Playing a victim by saying the bf at the time made her do all this stuff is such a typical woman’s card. From what I saw of this lady, she was probably the one manipulating and assaulting the guy to do what she wanted. Sexual assault and abuse goes both ways. The only problem is that society laughs at men about it.
@kmariamv2 жыл бұрын
He was 20 years older than her. SA from her is unlikely in this case.
@isskull72722 жыл бұрын
@@kmariamv Why is it unlikely? because you find him old and unattractive? you do realize she was with him, right? she must've seen something. It's idiotic to suggest that it's unlikely since she was already having relations with him.
@MisterMooo2 жыл бұрын
@Daisysky66 Found the shill
@TomNook.2 жыл бұрын
The length of her prison sentence will be based on whether the judge thinks with his brain or something a bit further down.
@Franciscasieri2 жыл бұрын
Not betting on the latter
@janetsavona75902 жыл бұрын
No She will find Jesus in prison All will forgiven and she will be eligible for parole
@janetsavona75902 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett I agree
@MrMannyhw2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t she go to jail already?
@talldave77992 жыл бұрын
She's blond and very White with some powerful connections.
@Leto2ndAtreides2 жыл бұрын
Because the legal system is very slow about doing just about anything. She'll likely go to jail eventually.
@pete67052 жыл бұрын
She still has the appeals process, I heard someone say it could be 18 - 24 months before she goes to prison. I hope they’re wrong, but this stuff takes forever, she was indicted back in 2018
@MrMannyhw2 жыл бұрын
@@pete6705 They can definitely move her case up faster and deny the appeal.
@HarshvardhanKanthode2 жыл бұрын
White collar prison at that too, and it'll be 2 years before she sees any jail time
@mrleebaines86112 жыл бұрын
some women are professional liars and jump on the " he abused me, he. bullied me" band wagon.... i hope she as a strong woman gets 40 years which should be easy for her, as she is a strong American woman.
@Didenne2 жыл бұрын
Just as men are too.
@SkenonSLive2 жыл бұрын
@@Didenne Clearly you are yet to meet one 😁
@Didenne2 жыл бұрын
@@SkenonSLive yet to meet a man? Lol what kind of comeback is that
@SkenonSLive2 жыл бұрын
@@Didenne You considering that I need a comeback is almost as sad as your original remark...
@ericB34442 жыл бұрын
They would never put a cute girl in jail like this. Return her to her $135 million dollar mansion. She is too good for jail. You can’t shackle her up unless they are gold-plated.
@stemikger2 жыл бұрын
She cleans up well, but I don't think she is pretty and her fake deep voice scares me. lol
@ericB34442 жыл бұрын
@@stemikger she doesn’t scare you. My aunt MARMALADE would scare you. She celebrates Halloween all year. She is cute. She doesn’t look like Richard Simmons. She’s a soft girl.
@talldave77992 жыл бұрын
They would throw the book at her if she was Brown!
@TheDavidlloydjones2 жыл бұрын
@@stemikger But she's blonde. Isn't that a get-out-of-jail-free card?
@lilg23002 жыл бұрын
She will go to jail and she will also be sentenced to pay back 100 million dollar. If she ever will be able to pay back the money is obviously a different story ;-)
@tommygamba1702 жыл бұрын
Oh my God I'm a woman I've been abused have sympathy for me. Which has nothing to do with the case and her actions. Even if it was true. But I doubt that it was true because it only came up when she was prosecuted, come on!
@lrpolo2 жыл бұрын
Incredible how even now she managed to wriggle out of all but 4 charges
@reaperzeero2 жыл бұрын
My prediction is she gets about 5 years in prison, and will be out in maybe 2.
@jimreilly69332 жыл бұрын
and back to ripping off the public.
@markcourson31512 жыл бұрын
Federal sentence has no early release. They get 54 days off the sentence a year for good behavior.
@solosailorsv80652 жыл бұрын
2 years and will suddenly have billions of dollars ... again
@connorriley75112 жыл бұрын
@@markcourson3151is correct, they have to serve 85% on good behavior. the only thing she could do is apply for a sentence modification. so say she serves 12 months out of that 5 years and applies for the re-classification/modification/whatever they call it in the fed system and its granted and they change it to two years, she can also request to be put into community reintegration and could be released that same day to home confinement/house arrest (whichever you prefer to call it) or to a halfway house and only serve a year actually behind bars.... that's usually what rich people do, but there's plenty of rich in the fed system Bernie Madoff (who committed suicide serving 150 years), Allen Stanford, Michael Malkin, etc.
@inconvenientexistenlism2 жыл бұрын
Then a book deal to make her billions, spouting her-side BS.
@rolandosarabia8102 жыл бұрын
She's a grifter, a lot of people may be on her side because she's very persuasive. She's just a con-artist; a very able con-artist
@asha84432 жыл бұрын
She’s a white woman batting her big eyes so yea, she knows what she’s doing
@rolandosarabia8102 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett I am basing my opinion not only on the news but also several interviews I've seen of her. Why are you defending this woman? She's the equivalent of a snake oil salesmen
@CalicoArchives2 жыл бұрын
Even before everything came out I told my wife I was very skeptical of her claims because people dedicate their whole lives to achieve a breakthrough in research. I just thought based on her lack of experience and the extremely short time frame it was highly unlikely what she said was true. I guess she really took, "fake it till you make it," to the extreme.
@achuthakannan8662 жыл бұрын
Such a scam, and can't believe silicon valley took so much time to arrest here..
@rutwickgangurde32472 жыл бұрын
So she got a slap on the wrist.
@ryanlupi77562 жыл бұрын
What a bogus verdict. She knew and her knowing is obvious. Guilty on all accounts, but it is what it is. She won’t be able to defraud patients most importantly again . People should care more about patients before they become one
@kalinelli2 жыл бұрын
To those who are concerned that she will walk free please note that all her charges have a mandatory fine up to$250,000 ( I believe ?) so she could have to pay up to $1,000,000 and each charge carries a mandatory prison sentence of up to 20 years and and they are most likely to run concurrently, which means that if she were found guilty on ANY of the counts (even just 1) she would serve the same sentence as if she were found guilty on ALL the counts. Thus she will be sentenced to prison in the future, ( maybe 6 Months from now,) but until that time she is allowed to be out of custody. The reason being that: while a murderer or other extremely dangerous criminal to the community or public at large or someone who poses a flight risk would be taken into custody, immediately after a guilty verdict, an individual who does not present a danger or threat to the public is often allowed to be out until sentencing happens. EH is restricted from engaging in any investing and most likely has other restrictions placed upon her, and if she were to attempt to flee before sentencing, or does not abide by said restrictions, she would absolutely be taken into custody immediately and could then face additional punishment or harsher sentencing. The judge and the Prosecutors obviously don't believe that she poses a threat to the community or public at large, or that she is considered a flight risk, so she is allowed to be out of custody until sentencing happens. In my opinion, Ms. Holmes should use the time to educate herself about life in prison so she can survive the time she will serve behind bars.
@ShaudaySmith2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that detailed and thoughtful comment. Makes a lot of sense. I'm sure my question is very google-able but i'll still ask. How much "prison survival" education is required for a white collar prison? She will most likely not serve with violent criminals but others serving similar fraud sentences. I would be shocked if she serves more then 10 years in prison when it's all said and done.
@FC-hj9ub2 жыл бұрын
So what? The law is only as good as its enforcement. And it is not enforced around the rich.
@mrleebaines86112 жыл бұрын
you talk too much, get to the point, she will never serve a long sentence
@rolandosarabia8102 жыл бұрын
She's a threat to society at large. She's a predator. The fact that she's not a violent criminal doesn't mean that people will not die because of her psychopathic and narcissistic conduct. I concur
@eyeheartsushi22122 жыл бұрын
@@mrleebaines8611 Exactly
@louisakaiserman80562 жыл бұрын
20 years. Madoff got two lifetimes. She lied her way to billions of dollars. What makes her any better then he.
@ferociousgumby2 жыл бұрын
She likely won't serve more than a couple of years in a minimum-security prison with hotel-like amenities. And meantime she can write her memoirs and paint herself as a misunderstood feminist hero/victim of patriarchy.
@tomk37322 жыл бұрын
I am hoping for 40.
@shisah55442 жыл бұрын
The scene in the dropout where she considers taking apart already working large analysers (such as those built by siemens) so late in the game is very telling- she didn’t even understand how they work. As an actual hospital scientist using these on a day to day basis I can tell you they actually already work with a tiny amount of blood anyway. It doesn’t sound to me like she ever set foot in a proper lab running these tests in her life before coming up with her “vision”
@bowlampar2 жыл бұрын
"I am who i am now is because of many years of abusive relationship in the hand of my ex- boy friend." Seem like the defendant legal excuses is working out quite well in the trial. 🤣
@chrislim79762 жыл бұрын
One last show: parents holding hands, deer in the headlights gaze, new boyfriend, even a new baby. Experienced judges see through all of this: FRAUD
@Samuels-nz9em2 жыл бұрын
She seemed to to have found herself a rich simp, he is probably paying all the legal fees
@onelove19682 жыл бұрын
It's just the beginning of her CEO comeback story. In America, where Martha Stewart now bakes cookies with Snoop Dogg, anything is possible.
@louisgonzalez88462 жыл бұрын
So much for democracy.......huh????
@JohnDoe-qz3qi2 жыл бұрын
Playing the world smallest 🎻.
@ic3yboy2 жыл бұрын
Set precedence! You can’t keep selling lies!
@talldave77992 жыл бұрын
Standard practice in Silicon Valley.
@larrymassey77142 жыл бұрын
Unless you're in government...
@NPak-cw1ny2 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's Christian Holmes [0:01] , VP of Enron, holding hands with Elizabeth. Birds of a feather.
@morningbird1532 жыл бұрын
Yea, her father. The media loved to gloss over that screaming red flag. 🚩 Not saying they had to assume she was a scammer from the jump, but her investors and the media could have at the least, done their due diligence and asked a TON more questions. A lot of holes would have been exposed in her narrative a lot sooner. Two historical scams in one family, not a good look at all.
@zxcytdfxy2562 жыл бұрын
I want to see this scammer in prison.
@bate010712 жыл бұрын
The reality is that what she was tried for - wire fraud, wasn’t what we as the public wanted her to be found guilty of- endangering/harming the lives of hundreds of patients who got her tests. We were bound to be disappointed. I got to give her credit for fully committing to a carefully crafted narrative and persona that will likely yield a light sentence and early parole.
@mikatu2 жыл бұрын
LOL no one was harmed..... the blood tests were real, but done in a different location. She was doing the same as Madoff.
@TheSteinbitt2 жыл бұрын
@@mikatu madoff got 150 years. She won’t.
@DMalltheway2 жыл бұрын
@@mikatu Blood tests were inaccurate and she could’ve done serious medical harm to her patients
@eddietat952 жыл бұрын
I rate this verdict 4/11.
@auradawn72882 жыл бұрын
She never defrauded anyone!?! What the heck!?! 😡 All those innocent sick patients and the ones who died or never received the proper care!
@zapfan70292 жыл бұрын
Female Steve Jobs turned out to be female Bernie Madoff...
@PrestenSPapel2 жыл бұрын
So Holmes said “Yes, I altered documents and put the logos of pharmaceutical companies on top of the letters, BUT I DIDN’T THINK THAT WAS MISLEADING.” Huh?
@asha84432 жыл бұрын
I bet she won’t get jail time in the end.. Just goes to show justice is different for rich people
@izio44082 жыл бұрын
Her biggest crime was not blinking enough
@GibsonArtola2 жыл бұрын
I really wonder where the federal regulators / inspectors of the Department of Health and Human Services were when all of this occurred --- that's where the defense should have handled their case to begin with. If the authorities don't certify your product, you can't put it on the market.
@brainstormingsharing13092 жыл бұрын
In a very simple nutshell- she deserves even much, much, much more ❗
@IbnTufayl12 жыл бұрын
Bravo John Carreyrou and bravo WSJ!
@LoneTinaja2 жыл бұрын
“Elizabeth Holmes”, a poem - She’s got a new identity. The way it was meant to be. Felon Liz. That’s who she is. Sweet reality.
@Samuels-nz9em2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@two_tier_gary_rumain2 жыл бұрын
You have to wonder about the mentality of morons who make up poems in comments. Not once but twice.
@Thebreakdownshow12 жыл бұрын
Holmes while naming the company wanted thenos but that was taken so she settled with Theranos.
@madat58432 жыл бұрын
lol hashtag true story.
@shisah55442 жыл бұрын
I’m glad she didn’t go with thanos
@siphotheguy18702 жыл бұрын
In the end she ran out of men to blame.
@derekcho23122 жыл бұрын
If I were Billy Evans : "I'm saying goodbye Elizabeth, and it is not too soon"
@coolblue18122 жыл бұрын
Honestly, to me she looks like a cyborg from sci-fi movie. Instead of dabbling in science, she might be more successful writing her twisted tale in a novel. Moneys is not everything.
@stevek98542 жыл бұрын
This must make a show case that these types of crimes will be punished and not forgiven.
@MegaLeoben2 жыл бұрын
Why do these criminals like to hold hands in front of the media?
@crwl82 жыл бұрын
Nikola next?
@auro19862 жыл бұрын
these people are good at observation and examination of society
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
The most sinister part was that Holmes knowingly gave wrong test reports to the patients, leading to serious medical problems of them. But she was not found guilty of that charge.
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett the doctors depend on the report. If the report is wrong then diagonsis and prescribed medicines will also be wrong.
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett what technology you're talking about? Which does not exist!!! If you have iota of scientific knowledge, you would know that from pricking blood droplets, the tests promised by Holmes cannot be performed. Holmes has no backround of medical science and she deliberately exploited the hype around her. Even when her frauds were exposed by WSJ, she vehemently denied it knowing fully well that she was caught. She went on aggressive lie but finally she is caught up. Now she is playing victim card very well and jury also accepted it. The next is Balwani's trial and it remains to be seen how jury react. Educate youtself before commenting.
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett why then the chief of lab committed suicide? Why she threatened her employees with law suit against speaking truth? But truth prevailed and Theranos went bankrupt. This bankruptcy is a real and due to falsified claims of Holmes which finally fell on her like a rock crushing her in the process. Truly she is both a sociopath and psychopath with high confidence that no one can touch her, because of high profile Board. The investors burnt their money because of their own folly but patients believed her and she with her sinister design deceived them with serious consequences.
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett very funny logic of yours. I am looking for a technology which will make 80 year old man to look and healthy as 30 years old. I employeed scientists and who did not endorse my view. I got enourmous fund from idiotic investors. And some 80 year old people tried my technology with no result. The techonology failed. And my company failed. End of the story.
@chance25262 жыл бұрын
@Lucille Bennett surely Holmes is a disgusting person. Why should she claim that the test results from Edison were correct when she knew that was not true. She could not explain her project technology to the health sector funds and could not get any funding from them. The investors did not do due diligience process before giving her the money. Most importantly she does not have any medical background. Steve Jobs was successful because Wazinick was there, Zuckerberg is successful because he knew how to write code and similar is the story of Gates. They know their domain. But Holmes does not. People understand sinister design of Holmes and obviously they would speak bad about that.
@gilbertvaldez51762 жыл бұрын
She was not an engineer she never graduated you do not become an engineer with a high school diploma!
@rosemarytackett21692 жыл бұрын
It's heart warming knowing what she has to look forward ❤️ to
@MarkEwert2 жыл бұрын
There is simply NO similarity between making a sales pitch and testifying in court. The key ingredient missing is the "lust" of the investor which lures many to ignore obvious issues about their investments. Indeed they are often desperate to believe. On the stand there simply is no such dynamic at work.
@yashgandhi41632 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how she convinced a simp to put kid in her before trial. Kid is going to suffer for no reason.
@Samuels-nz9em2 жыл бұрын
And she found a rich one, at the perfect time. I bet he is paying the legal fees too
@huzcer2 жыл бұрын
He must be 'tarded to not see that she is a psychopathic reptilian cnut. She has locked him in for life by unloading an offspring. His life is over and will no doubt end up being in a complete nightmare situation.
@MK-de4wd2 жыл бұрын
Elisabeth holmes must be lockt up behind barres for 80 years minimum! She was guilty of defrauding the investor. She was not guilty of defrauding the Patients! Let that sink in.
@BenCarnage2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how people so blindly turn these individuals into something that is beyond question. Holmes is now judged for all her dishonesty that was previously shrugged away by the fanbase. I wonder when Musk fans will start asking where Tesla Trucks are, why the hyperloop ended up being nothing, why Musk basically conned states into giving him factories, how neuralink is nothing like what he claimed, why we'll continually not reach Mars on his deadlines, why self-driving is far beyond what Tesla is even close to achieving, how he's conning the other board members of Tesla repeatedly for which he is now being sued for one instance of, how he's actually invented nothing and is a founder of nothing. He just ret-cons his name onto companies once he has invested. He's quite similar to Trump, just that left-leaning people like him for some reason. He's nearly bullet-proof today, and people won't take a single criticism of him.
@BenCarnage2 жыл бұрын
@Kyul Kim does he really? Pm me when he delivers :)
@jadenephrite2 жыл бұрын
As to how Elizabeth Holmes was able to dupe investors, P. T. Barnum said “there’s a sucker born every minute”. As to how Elizabeth Holmes was ultimately exposed as a fraud, Abraham Lincoln said, “You can fool all the people some of the time or some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”.
@moonnuchamling98752 жыл бұрын
I still haven't understood this case completely. Was she trying to make this project a success or did she already know it wouldn't work at all but still pursued this project just to gain financial benefits/funding and donations from people? Did she intentionally scammed people for money or did the project just didnt work and failed miserably?
@FreeandWiild2592 жыл бұрын
She truly thought she could get it to work. It’s commonplace for entrepreneurs to finesse investments for products that don’t actually work or sometimes even exist at the time. That’s how it started. It quickly snowballed into a situation where she needed to put more money and effort into keeping up her huge lies than into actually creating the technology :/
@shisah55442 жыл бұрын
I recommend you watch the dropout
@isskull72722 жыл бұрын
Who's responsible for picking these jurors? terrible job.
@jvb80352 жыл бұрын
Strong independent woman needs a man to take her to court
@TheBeautyScientist2 жыл бұрын
If this actually worked. People like me who work as laboratory Scientists will lose jobs. But i find this really impossible because detecting proteins, viruses etc has each different principles. Machines are there to help us but at the end of the day our job is to make sure we release accurate results out of these machines performing the lab tests.
@creditspread96062 жыл бұрын
She is going to impersonate Stone Cold Steve Austin in prison for street cred.
@ericB34442 жыл бұрын
That is very correct.
@williamgoring76052 жыл бұрын
Man we need her in the White House
@LetsGo-LoveYourself2 жыл бұрын
I would like to think she had good intentions and really thought it was possible. But after as much research as her company did they should have realized soon this wasn't possible.
@vivek277892 жыл бұрын
True
@4evertrue8302 жыл бұрын
No she never had any good intentions from the start if she had her company would have raised funds based on an idea not on having the actual tech to do hundreds of blood tests.
@Franciscasieri2 жыл бұрын
Happy I can read a WSJ piece without being forced to subscribe
@chomihai2 жыл бұрын
Elon beware
@gusposey82182 жыл бұрын
I want to know what dark tome was opened that allowed our society to embrace liars and grifters on such a grand scale.
@yaakd2 жыл бұрын
How in the world did the state not get a win on all of these charges? Anyone remotely familiar with this story understands she is guilty as Madoff.
@vercoda99972 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, she's a massive crook - but she was entitled to be tried by people who didn't know that and had no opinion of her, to just focus on the evidence they were presented with. That's fair, and how Justice should work - an impartial jury just considering the facts as presented to them, rather than any other opinion.
@yaakd2 жыл бұрын
@@vercoda9997 yeah I hear that and from what I’ve been learning they were a very letter of the law group.
@samanthaconn3895 Жыл бұрын
Her defense team...HAD THE B@LLS 🤬 to stand up there and say, because she's pregnant she shouldn't go to prison. The fact, that they LITERALLY ADMITTED that this pregnancy was for a possible vote of leniency, should get BOTH CHILDREN TAKEN IMMEDIATELY. She got pregnant to get out of trouble with ZERO consideration of her children and that, in my book, is an UNBELIEVABLE display of child abuse. TAKE THOSE KIDS CALIFORNIA!!!
@wandatorres99672 жыл бұрын
This victory is for every bullied, victimized employee who spoke up and was threatened. I have been following this case for years. Guess who got the last laugh
@donaldzitzer16222 жыл бұрын
Thank You Wall Street Journal
@FinancialShinanigan2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Hall Of Financial Fraudster Fame.
@talldave77992 жыл бұрын
I just saw a Martha Stuart wine label in Safeway! I wonder if Elizabeth will have her own White label in 10 years! She will do podcast from her cell on how to fraud investors then a book tour after 4 years.
@louisgonzalez88462 жыл бұрын
Next in line:..... Musk.!!!!
@JConestar2 жыл бұрын
E. Holmes needs to rot in prison for playing with patients lives.
@NitishKumar-jm7ec2 жыл бұрын
Guilty of misleading investors equals no such device equals a total fraud well isn't that the whole point?lock her up 🔐🔐🔐🔐
@anitahasani55062 жыл бұрын
Interesting how her eyes in the latest photos aren’t as opened as she always kept them , she was into a role back than it seems
@yourgooglemeister67452 жыл бұрын
Responsibility is Kryptonite for women
@zucc47642 жыл бұрын
You went full sexist. Don't go full sexist.
@tomk37322 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for a stacked sentence on all 4 charges. She could be retried on remaining 3 charges AFAIK. Hope is for something with meaning, like 40 years. I think 10 years per charge, 50% of maximum is going easy on her. Should be stacked due to her role in the crime, severity, and $ involved. She could be out as soon as 34 years! If judge wants to throw a book, give her max - 80 years. Personally I would not mind max.
@huzcer2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately the talk is of concurrent sentences.
@tomk37322 жыл бұрын
@@huzcer Well it is rare to get stacked sentences unless crime is grave - Bernie Madoff got concurrent sentences for his fraud as crime was "grave" - similar should apply here - its not like she defrauded for few million $$$ she is a symbol of fraud, same as Bernie is. Even more, fraud runs in her family - clearly they do not understand its "bad".
@huzcer2 жыл бұрын
@@tomk3732looks like you're confused on what concurrent means.... Madoff was sentenced on a consecutive / stacked / non-concurrent basis. That's how he got 150 years. None of the individual charges that he plead guilty to had a maximum sentence of more than 20 years. But very little chance that Holmes will get consecutive / stacked sentences. The investor money involved wasn't even 1% of what Madoff stole.
@tomk37322 жыл бұрын
@@huzcer Sorry that is what I meant - stacked - as per first sentence, just typed not what I thought - that is my point - he got 150 as they stacked them due to severity of the crime. As for her stealing, she was personally accused of 1% of Madoff (700m vs 65b) BUT the whole company that collapsed was worth 10B.
@huzcer2 жыл бұрын
@@tomk3732 The valuation is only on paper - doesn't matter a jot really. it wasn't a public company obviously so was only based on the last funding round. it's not real money - only a theoretical figure. the real money was the money handed over. I think that she deserves a long stretch but zero chance imo that it will be consecutive.