ELLEN IS INSANE! Ultimate Guide & Showcase! Best Teams, W-Engines, Drives and MORE!

[@IWinToLose]

A couple updates since making this guide: 1. For Bangboos, both Butler and Sharkboo are good. Penguinboo is good in the early game. 2. Everyone will get Soukaku for free, so ignore the part where I talk about if you don't have Soukaku. 3. For talent priority, after using her a lot more on launch, despite it sheeting low in an optimal rotation, in practice I recommend leveling her Dodge (dash/scissors) after her Basics and/or Chain. This is where practicality and calcs differ. 3. 🦈

[@vladys001]

What about Bangboo options? I can see you are using Sharkboo, but what about Butler - is it good if I have Rina, but not Lycon? What about A options?

[@eldenjim]

@@vladys001 Butler can work in almost any team, but might not be the most optimal for Ellen anymore since they removed its Crit lol Sharkboo is BiS, but the A-tier Ice Penguinboo isn’t nearly as good. Not bad, but too niche to be worth heavily investing in for its power level. Paperboo is a great A-tier that fits in literally any team. It helps gather and control enemies, while the taunt itself is actually an indirect DPS gain because you just get to freely beat on enemies for 2-4 seconds every now and then.

[@Vengieo]

I still don't see why team order matters. I can on controller R1 and L1 to pick who I switch too. Am I missing something?

[@eldenjim]

@@Vengieo it does, because defensive assists & quick assist triggers (like Soukaku’s buff) always cycle to the right. If you don’t have any buffs or synergies you’d want on a particular unit, it’s fine (if slightly suboptimal) to put your agents in any order you like. As an example, though, if you want to buff Ellen with Soukaku’s quick assist trigger, you’d need to place Ellen after Soukaku. Doesn’t matter where, so you could even do Ellen | (anyone) | Soukaku!

[@vladys001]

@@Vengieo left click and right click, when you trigger switch attack, space to swap to the next character in order and trigger counterattack

[@SupaRush]

Ngl this game caught me off guard, i like it way more than i thought i would.

[@m.elhaj.98]

Yeah its refreshing and flashy

[@HerbIntake]

Honestly same 😢 finally I can put genshin down

[@ankitjadhav6775]

Love it more than Wuwa now, Lost interest in wuwa.

[@МихаилШульженко-э9я]

Yes , i kinda tired of Chinese theme in wuwa . Names like jianxhi ir whatever. Dragons, Chinese dresses... Bruh. The hip hop vibe os more fun

[@wendysmith5728]

I thought so too! I don't know what it is about zzz but I am so hooked!

[@kreepink]

watching this makes me realize how much i don’t know how to play this game at all

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

watching this makes me realize how much i don’t want to play this game at all

[@randompoorlydrawndragon3076]

​@@ferdgerbeler8494 average lazy person

[@QMS9224]

@@randompoorlydrawndragon3076 its not laziness lol, we are in the gold age of gacha i have too many other quality games to play. ZZZ had low expectations and still failed to meet them (for alot of players not all). For a combat focused game i had hoped the combat would be more engaging

[@oberonvortigern4138]

⁠@@QMS9224Bro the game just came out stfu 😂

[@QMS9224]

​@@oberonvortigern4138 that's why i specified not all players, its fine to like the game but many wont make it past launch day. I like wuwa but ill admit even wuwa had this problem, many players didnt make it past launch it the same for any game. I will be interested to see the July revenue charts maybe zzz will cook u could be right, im not hating its just not for me

[@arad4rling401]

Short hair, maid outfit. And most important, SHARK TAIL!!!! I found my dream girl

[@ONE-q4l]

I agree

[@smartkking4984]

Sharkbooboo

[@Mc_DeusAuri]

she's a minor

[@arad4rling401]

@@Mc_DeusAuri she's a fictional character. Real life and fiction are different world

[@Mc_DeusAuri]

@@arad4rling401 ik this was a rage bait XD

[@itsj0hnnypr]

12:46 Soukaku is free via the shiyu defense btw, so everyone will have her

[@HappyPepe5]

Ya she is free but i havent beat shiyu defense yet, time to get good. 🥹

[@IndraGaming_o]

Already got M6 her

[@SmashTheAdam]

I got M7 on Anton already, yeah, I got him again after already getting all his Mindscapes,I don't really mind because I like him but Sokaku would have definitely been more useful @@IndraGaming_o

[@ValoryeaNightmist]

She’s also part of Ellen’s banner.

[@itsj0hnnypr]

@@ValoryeaNightmist yeah but as someone who plays multiple gacha games, I can tell you that doesn't garantee getting her from there, hence I said you get her for free since that applies yo averyone

[@edwardkim7823]

I’m so glad that they enabled the game to have framerates greater than 60. Been loving the game with the smoother refresh rate.

[@vareyx]

not on mobile :((

[@johnnyappleseed4279]

Same, that’s always been a con for me with mihoyo games. Game feels super smooth and responsive

[@Aman_Mondal]

@@johnnyappleseed4279HI3rd had 120fps on PC

[@cheesepantsgaming1964]

How do you enjoy it? I have to dig through dialogs and tv. I only enjoy the 20 seconds of fighting but have to go through tv animations and dialogs.

[@jyuu6650]

@@cheesepantsgaming1964fun is subjective. Next week we’ll learn about differing opinions 😧

[@mubrek236]

Trigger dash -- Charged -- Spam Basic -- Spam E -Sincerely,someone who doesn't know wtf is going on

[@MrDarthImperius]

Ackshually, don't spam E. Press twice, trigger Sharknami, then follow up with Basic for that instant B3. But otherwise, yeah, somewhat simple rotation.

[@cowgba]

I dolphin'd for shark, lost my first 50/50 to Lycaon, and picked up M6 Soukaku in the process. Fate has spoken, I guess I know what team I'm building lol.

[@Yusei255]

you didn't really have to dolphin, as those 100 free pulls we got guarantes her on 90 pulls.

[@hikarugenji1737]

​@@Yusei255I mean. Now he can use those 100 pulls on weapon or next character

[@cowgba]

That was exactly my thought process lol, I want her engine too since she doesn't currently have a strong F2P backup option. Plus I lost the 50/50 to Lycaon so the free pulls wouldn't have guaranteed her for me😅

[@Yusei255]

@@cowgba but dont you get a guaranteed at 90 though

[@cowgba]

​@@Yusei255 You're guaranteed to get a 5 star within 90 pulls, but ZZZ still uses the 50/50 system from Genshin and HSR. When you get a 5 star you have a 50% chance to get the featured character and a 50% chance to get one of the standard 5 star characters. If you "lose the 50/50" and get a standard character, your next 5 star character is guaranteed to be the featured character. Once you get a featured 5 star character it goes back to being a 50/50 again for your next 5 star.

[@Yoromeki_kuzure]

Never been into either sharks or maids but combined with perpetually-exhausted-yet-chill-around-friends gen-Z vibe? I was immediately sold. Super fun to pilot as well. HoYo knows their shit.

[@GatsuRage]

I manage to pull her finally on my 80th attempt! Although I wasn't so lucky with her weapon sadly but I wont complain is a miracle that being totally f2p player manage to get her on her 50-50. Thanks for the guide!

[@gogiantrobotproductions3907]

Just pulled Ellen! I love how Hoyo designed her game play. Sharks sink if they aren't moving and Ellen has to move to gain flash freeze stacks. It makes me excited for their future creative designs!

[@eldenjim]

Leveling Ellen’s Dodge also scales her charged attacks’ damage and daze application pretty significantly (which usually isn’t properly reflected on damage breakdowns) so I’d put it at a slightly higher priority than her Special Attack. While Sharknado hits as hard as her B3 in a shorter timeframe, it doesn’t actually scale off of anything else in her kit. It’s also not always available, nor is it optimal to always use it even if it were. The increased multipliers from leveling her Special Attack just don’t have the potential to impact the fight as often, as easily, nor as passively as the boost to her charged attacks. In my opinion, the most valuable thing about her E is the instant B3. It’s much more noticeable than the skill damage itself because it has allowed me to close out many fights earlier than I should have. I’d still level the skill eventually if I had materials to spare, though.

[@akialter]

The unlimited FPS CHANGED EVERYTHING, extremely helpful for frame parry/dodge game like this

[@Scoutzknives]

Lost the 50/50 to soldier 11 on my first multi. Still pulling for Ellen.

[@adamjdavis201]

Same, but managed to get her today at 33 pity thankfully. Going to try for her engine but I don't know if I'll get there, but don't give up!

[@Aathi117]

Game's animations are looks cool. I never tried the games other than open world RPGs and game like god of war, Tomb raider series but will try it after sometimes. And your videos are always clean and informative. Kudos to you. I am seeing so many hate comments and i can understand some of them but i feel like many of them never even tried the game but just spouting some nonsense with the videos they were watching and the informations they were heard from others. This game is targeted for different audiences. something you don't like it may loved by someone. What you guys making were not a constructive criticism but a plain hate.

[@poroo1404]

I got ellen and lycaon from 40 pulls, pulling for her w engine. I cant believe i got so lucky

[@xmaslieder]

Get out

[@HaseoIX]

TIP: You can also switch cancel while she's doing her charging dash attack into a perfect parry, and she will still get her FF charges.

[@suwoh.c1977]

I got her in my first 10 pull so I... lol i wish. Needed 2 x 70+ pulls to get her, now aiming for the weapon, hope I wont lose again if it works like this. Still good a usefull guide, defiently gonna use this to play her better.

[@erin.mp4]

I got Ellen by pure luck on my first 10 pull so now I’ve been trying to build her so thanks for the guide!

[@rogerdodger1984]

Ok

[@itzpurple_queen9711]

Omg I got her in my first 10 pull! Literally the first time this has happened in any gacha. I mean I deserve it after losing my first 4 50/50’s in HSR. 😮🎉

[@xmaslieder]

Congrats

[@scorpioneldar]

that bite loop had me fascinated good call on putting that under your explanation.

[@jolunrohthocoudis526]

Honestly this is where play testing would have helped. Sure her MS2 might not look great on paper, but its absolutely devasting in practice, and if you know what you're doing you can be functionally immune for quite a long time because you're EXing x3 Sharknamis intermingled with the basic 3 blade spinning in their back. I cant tell you how many times its allowed me to keep up my damage when normal bosses would have knocked me out of my rotation or forced me to change

[@xoraphoenix]

Got her first muti I’m not gonna spend until they bring out a penguin fr

[@GoodieSenpai]

Same. Got lucky on first multi. Debating on getting weapon. Or saving for another character

[@masasih5364]

Same bro, im confusing use my resource for gacha weapon or next char

[@caniluban]

Penguinboo

[@knightmare938]

​@@canilubanthink they meant a penguin playable unit

[@ljxr2745]

@@masasih5364 id say u save, she honestly will probably get power crept and there will be characters that you will like and want to pull in the future

[@m.elhaj.98]

You are truly what a content creator should be, very informative and funny,,, great video keep it up :)) I have a question, can I put (lycaon -suk - ellen ) in this order or ellen should be first ?

[@sciencethygod]

As long as Suk is before Ellen either by having Ellen first and Suk last or the way you want it, you always want Suk to chain into Ellen for the 1000 ap buff. preferably Ellen first so chains end on her.

[@KisaragiFueru_]

The game has been so nice to me.. they gave me lycaon as my first 5* then i got a 5* engine for him too.. then i got c6 soukaku then ellen came home 😅😅

[@wendysmith5728]

OMG, THANK YOU honestly. I got her but I can't seem to work her "flash freezer" until I watched this. 😅

[@gageolesen5729]

Got Ellen, lucked into her weapon trying for Anton's. NOW WHERE IS MY WOLF MAN

[@RandomNPC-v1h]

I already have ellen, accidentally got SS on x10 and im so shocked to get 2 ellen !! like what?!?!?!?! Now my problem is what is her rotation now since c2 makes a different.. also c1 for stacking.

[@rockmsp_art]

Common thing in zzz is have two same element characters and one different character so it can trigger disorder reactions (which give to of DMG)

[@Craftwork55]

I just kept hearing lightcone instead of Lycaon 😆

[@EIONIOS]

knowing how to play Lycaon is one of the way to maximize her dmg cuz his impact building is insane! note; Lycaon Special is holdable and it do much more stagger point and it give you

[@saltchan2]

Yooo best guide ive found. Had my butt go back to training mode! Greatly appreciate this guide

[@ankitjadhav6775]

I was Saving for Miyabi ,i wanted some soukaku Cons but Got her in a 10 pull so i came here, didn't want her so I will Still Build Her as F2P would. Hope she still deals Decent Dmg with a low Inv build(lmao i think my C1 Rina is gonna be Useful for someone else of diff element)

[@akamekurome4941]

i got ellen in my first pull

[@geerosario3983]

I've been watching your content since early Genshin days, this is by far the best ellen guide i've come across and i've watched many. thank you keep up the good work

[@kae9831]

i got the Wolf man so now i have to get her

[@steffanocornejo6129]

That's actually good. He's a nice partner to her. If you use them correctly you can constantly do chain attacks which will melt enemies thx to her.

[@darrianceragland7963]

Got Tina and Ellen off the banner off 4 Multics it’s feels good

[@saltedonion]

Evil Gura

[@happyapple6976]

Fr lol

[@karsnogen8141]

How dare you insult her. Ellen is way better

[@adlindorsal9877]

Gawr, but nah she looks like her big sister or something.

[@kyuzairen5383]

Evil Gura is canon tho

[@happyapple6976]

@@karsnogen8141 nah

[@jjshane72]

I've seen ppl playing Mono Ice with Ellen taking the most field time even when the boss isn't stunned, can someone enlighten me on why do they play like that? What is the purpose of a Stun unit if they aren't used to stun but just to debuff like Lycaon?

[@justincampbell1213]

stuck with this game a little longer and it’s grown on me - trying to wait on pulling Ellen until second half of 1.1 is revealed

[@hotkoyoto]

Despite lycoan being my favorite character. It's to great to know that he'll have a find a nice home with Ellen. This guide was extremely informative.

[@reguret2976]

This game is smooth asf, even on potato games i believe

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Well it "runs" alright, definitely not smooth, but if your device is above the minimum requirement then it runs well.

[@faisalbenna6642]

Yeah that’s what I like about it so much. The game play is smooth ash even on max settings for me which my pc struggles with sometimes. Probably cause the models of the characters aren’t super detailed

[@yosmergonzalez7668]

yeah because it's not an open world game

[@ishansharma2463]

​@@Hhhh22222-wBro idk what the min requirement are but If it runs this smoothly on my redmi note 8 which is ancient by now, i can't imagine how good it must feel on a powerful mobile or pc. Hoyo definitely know how to optimise their games.

[@nayukani178]

​@@ishansharma2463then how tf I'm having dark background in my game

[@anthonyl9116]

great and insightful vid as always! would it be possible to make a vid comparing ellen to the next limited character? i doubt ill get her and her wengine so i was thinking of full saving to hopefully guarantee the next limited and their wengine!

[@lawnmowerlarry9139]

I got lycaon in 4 pulls, ellen in 20 and brimstone in 7. Not bad :P Also got lycaon's wengine at standard pity.

[@FayolaOnline]

nice rolls, my w-engine rolls sucked bigtime.

[@Ahri91]

I lost the 50:50 to Rina as f2p q_q is it worth to keep pulling or should I better wait now? My starter 5 star was Koleda

[@shiro_kae]

IWTL would you do these vids for the standard 5 stars too?

[@YukinoriRyusei]

Can you swap Anby for Rina? I got Rina from the free standard pulls instaed of Lycoan :')

[@An_dres_art]

I’m pulling for her weapon, already got E6 soukaku and with koleda she is amazing and I like the variety of combos, nekomata is cool but she’s quite boring to play.

[@lem3560]

Ellen's design is too cool to be powercrept she'll always remain the coolest furry imo

[@An_dres_art]

She will always be meta as long as they release good supports, and she already have one, so she’s not on the same spot than venti or Klee, hoyoverse now includes personal supports for each dps so they will be always an spot for them in the meta.

[@Kagetora-]

She's not a furry. Lycaon is

[@ifluts]

got her on my 3rd pull, i am extremely happy rn

[@Xzen0498]

Mtashed luck is with something..Got Ellen at 2 pulls is. Damn crazy

[@ryancorro-sp6gv]

Got her in 7 pulls

[@neroma6964]

He got in 10

[@RAJA_XYLO]

I got her in 1 single pull and Rina on the next pull so it was double 😉

[@mastermastriker8084]

Got her at -1 pull

[@danielbarnes1241]

I didn't get her.

[@oscara8454]

I got get S1 in 20 pulls. Very glad since all her 4 star options seem lackluster.

[@Kodiak1521]

I wish i could get into this game as I like Ellen's design, but guess Ill have to live through videos like this haha

[@sabotagge9155]

Any advice on bangboo?

[@razortercermundista2165]

Can't wait for her to be powercrept in the next patch

[@EsdeathAslong]

Real,she is still pretty cute though,so that’s a plus

[@multiream]

Just get C6R5. 🤑 This way she's usable for an entire year.

[@nickwang9693]

‘Tis the fate of a day one character

[@faisalbenna6642]

I mean that’s the inevitable. I remember everyone saying seele was broken on hsr release but now we absolutely units in just a year that make seele look like a 4*

[@romander8088]

​@@faisalbenna6642seele is 5 star? Damn

[@Aekreowatch]

so my accidental c1 lycaon is actually useful?

[@minchern]

Got her in 20 pulls. Now I'm aiming for her w engine

[@海誠ー]

IM PREPARED TO GET LYCONE!! I just use rina for now :[ I was already running ellen rina and soukaku anyway

[@tempoaccla4041]

I'm using anby and the puppet maid puppet maid doesn't buff ellen at all outside of weapons and artifact sets but she does buff anby a lot and anby can deal respectable damage plus this way everyone is smiling I need lycaon tho

[@michaelyang838]

I feel like order is wrong, why wouldn’t you put stun first support second and atk third, the regular switches are far better in terms of stun to break support to buff alter to atk

[@channing0962]

Bro I just tried to pull for her banner just because but got her on the 1st 10 pulls same with Sharkboo🦈

[@Yusei255]

they need to fix the issue with the exploration quest, you literally can't move after you pick up that weight thing, you can't even get to the switcvh.

[@sodathejuiceyt]

As an ftp I’m happy I’m lucky and got the three fury team

[@FayolaOnline]

haha, so catgirl, sharkgirl and wolfboy? do shark ppl count as furries, are there scallies or finnies or whatever for non-mammals or does furry encompass all? Im out of the loop.

[@Average_JoJo_Fan]

I got an ad for ZZZ Ellen Joe

[@Tihamatt]

so when pulling for Ellen i failed my 50/50 but luckily got a double pull and got furry wolf boy then Ellen, i had no intention of using the guy, but now i have to or i lose massive dps, thats honestly some bs i didnt want to use him but hearing id pretty much be losing double damage and im playing on the harder game mode. welp time to suck it the fuck up i guess.

[@Xoria_]

Furry wolf boy 😭

[@clyderblx7617]

"should i pull" at the start of the video, it got me laughing cuz i wouldnt have been watching this video if i didnt have her already lol. Great guide and it helped me understand a bit more about her skillset, talent priority and discs.

[@dendyKA]

Finally got her today after losing my pity with C1 nekomata..

[@ii_gxbbx_ii5215]

my actual team is ellen, soakaku and rina i have all characters except the furry, soldier 11, grace and nekomata

[@marcusbullock2753]

How do sharks sleep if they’re constantly moving?

[@TheMoonestOne]

Nice gameplay at the end!

[@Thruthefy-qi7vn6lp2r]

Can you do an Piper or Lucy guide please 🥺

[@kidwar039]

LETS GOOOO!! so excited to try and pull for her

[@2010Zachwhite]

Zzz spent more effort on the cut scenes , npcs, cat balls and rabbit butt holes than the combat lmao

[@Kagetora-]

Combat is more deep than you think

[@lnsanityyy_isntsane]

i have both ellen and von, its like the game wants me to use her

[@jacedawg355]

Could someone please explain why the attack buffs from disc sets like woodpecker electro are "mega"? like how the hell is that better than polar metal for Ellen?

[@m1ke-hawk-yt152]

since ellen requires a lot of uptime she can easily proc these woodpeckers with ease. You can get a total of 1k from 4 woodpecker. While polar happens after a shatter personally ive noticed a dmg difference between both ice and wood pecker. Woodpecker is byfar the bis for ellen.

[@jaegybomb]

The 1 nice thing about F2P weapons is you can get The Brimstone from the signal shop eventually.

[@FayolaOnline]

Even without her signature w-engine she still slaps hard.

[@mumeenrufai4425]

got her on my firsty ten pull, I was so shocked! only 4 pity!

[@makimakimakipoo]

i accidentally got her in 20 pulls so i guess shes my main now

[@sidk7447]

14:13 how did you parry that?

[@lennonmantilla5577]

timing switching character

[@BlastHeart96]

Mindscapes are not that great on a launch limited banner character? She really is Seele coded. Jokes aside, I doubt I’ll ever stop using her on my main team because her design is just perfect.

[@LevtoChannel]

I got rina instead of lycaon. Currently just slapping 2 supports + ellen, idk if that was a good idea or not

[@KkatTflip]

Hi nice job on the vidéo ! I just pulled Ellen, what do you think should be the priority: getting her W-engine or getting Lycaon ?

[@DonCarlosBack]

for a f2p that already got ellen, do you recommend to try and get her weapon? or just save for future characters?

[@FayolaOnline]

Honestly for f2p, I'd wait for another character. Ultimately, you'll get more out of a new character than a w-engine for a character.

[@semmy6673]

Go for the W engine

[@ANKHZONE]

Ellen, Rina, Soukaku. Will this option work?

[@moviescores9315]

I got two lycoan and 5 star engine for stunner, think i will use that account and try to pull for ellen. My other acc has ellen and soakaku m6 but no lycoan. 😅

[@s7nshine.]

So, I finally got Ellen's W-Engine today, but I am a bit confused on the text. Basic attacks give you a crit rate buff, and then dash attacks give you an ADDITIONAL crit rate buff, but then at the end it says each value is calculated separately. Does it matter what order I attack in to get the buffs? Do I HAVE to do a basic attack and then dash attack to activate the 20% total crit rate buff? Or, can I do the loop you're meant to do with Ellen and dash attack first, and then basic?

[@expeditor5895]

order doesnt matter, ideally you do dash attack then spam basics. and if u have ultimate use it after your 1st basic 3 combo ideally for 20% extra crit rate buff

[@khanhtham1812]

You could say Lycaon is Ellen's best in slot "lightcone"

[@forgottenpeople1330]

bro thank you for the tutorial i love u bro

[@SeekGrace]

Took me one multi, birthday luck I guess.

[@cAkasha]

What would you recommend between her C1 and sig weapon?

[@earthling_0.1]

Sig

[@doctor27523]

There is no free limited Baner 10 pull

[@VoidBornHuman]

11:27 Ones just Evil Gawr Gura in a maid outfit, the other is *_ a demon_*, and the last one is an actual furry.

[@crescentdoom2853]

what bangboo is the best for her? my team consists of ellen, lycaon and soukaku. I don't have rina should I go with butler or sharkboo?

[@knightmare938]

Penguin does ice and anomaly build up iirc, butler gives energy. So its up to your playstyle, do you use the skills a lot, go butler, do you just want extra dmg, penguin

[@sobrehombre9338]

Thanks!!

[@asrakane]

i have her and her sig weapon but i guess im just using her without knowing anythiny at all lmao

[@dogdog_s]

1:22 Im pulling if that 1st hit basic attck sounds like that

[@meriwidget3474]

Just like WuWa.. I seem to be cursed to lose all my 50/50s at pity /sigh. At least I lost it to the Lycan dude...

[@headlesshiidra]

This games combat is everything I wish genshin would've been. Nowadays I play genshin for exploration and lore and now zzz has taken me in with its impressive combat fluidity.

[@karsnogen8141]

Stopped playing WuWa for this, at least I can still feel like playing my Sanhua with Ellen

[@Rasetsuuu]

XD bro dumped gold for shit

[@ANNE-cr2xi]

@@Rasetsuuuwuthering is shit being poorly optimized and a genshin copycat…😂

[@smallBrainsPeckersEgos]

As most these type of games have a few weeks at a time/per patch, you can play a few of these no problem. I have this, wuwa, genshin, pgr, pubgm, mobile legends and more on my phone

[@baldwonderland8388]

​@@Rasetsuuutrue lol 😂😂😂

[@Stellar_82]

​@@smallBrainsPeckersEgos huhhh how strong is your potato??? Mine literally explodes every time I open wuwa 😭

[@gtanpc]

you made a whole ass code for this video?? iwtl effort is insane