Elon Musk Laughs at the Idea of Getting a PhD... and Explains How to Actually Be Useful!

[@sahilkhan2470]

To start a company you dont need a degree, but to apply to that same company, you need a degree.

[@onlygoodperson]

Starting a company from nothing and making it successful enough for people to constantly apply for it is by no means an easy task.

[@MyNameIsSalo]

To apply for any job, you need experience and need to be able to demonstrate that experience. Actual real experience contributing to a real project that affected real people. Most university degrees will have an aspect of that, so anyone who has completed a degree will have some amount of experience. Usually a very tiny amount for a bachelors but a masters or doctorate have a lot more experience tied into them. So that’s why job applications require a degree. But if you can demonstrate your experience elsewhere, then that experience is more valuable than a degree. And employers won’t give a fuck if you don’t have a degree. What Elon is saying here, is to just go and do whatever you want to and make an impact. You don’t need education to do that, go educate yourself

[@davidelliott5843]

Degrees get you into most companies because nobody got fired for employing the most qualified applicants. Even when they turn out to be useless they just point to the CV - not my fault boss. Before you know it, everyone there has a degree so it becomes a defacto standard.

[@rockyblumble]

​@@onlygoodpersonby no means an easy task but also by no means requires a degree lol

[@onlygoodperson]

@@rockyblumble yeah I didn't say they needed a degree

[@zollar98]

He may not have a Phd, but I'll bet the people he hires have advanced degrees.

[@LunaWaves]

just be useful

[@TOMMY-WANT-WINGY]

He hires with questions that test someone problem solving abilities and even if they wrong he just wants the mental horsepower to solve big issues

[@Phasma6969]

@@LunaWaves yes kween

[@keifer7813]

HR will screen for PhDs and shit but I'm sure he doesn't care. It's just a way to reduce the candidate pool

[@Leto2ndAtreides]

Some, but it's more about whether or not you can prove that you can do the work. They often don't require "degrees" per se. I've personally never been asked for a copy of my college degree in my life.

[@user-ip3cp5yw4u]

I became a nurse because I wanted to help people after losing my family in a car accident when I was 9.... I became my version of my best self

[@Idontknowthing001]

wow, you must have been through the tough times but it's so nice to know your dedication and love to the needy people. Wonderful. God bless you and pray that your good Karma pays you back to fulfil all your wishes and keep you content.

[@user-wp2qn6yo1m]

我非常专敬您。 愿您平安健康。感谢世人有您种高贵的人

[@user-rw9eu5km8g]

You are awesome. So Sorry to here this tragedy happened in your young life. I am so very thankful, that you outright chose a career that says. I want to generate love every where I Go.. amazing awesome

[@NineDiamont]

That’s admirable, but wouldn’t becoming a doctor be even better?

[@user-ip3cp5yw4u]

@@NineDiamontit wasn't economically feasible

[@awen777]

When I started University on the West Coast in 1970 it cost me $90 per quarter and about $10 for books. So under $500 a year. I paid it all myself. I bought a house several years later for $44,500 with a view of the water and mountains on 1 acre of land. Paid $278 month payments. Now they want $20,000 for a year of University and $450,000 for my house. Something happened in between and it was not by accident! They had to employ those well papered people somewhere and needed a lot of money to do it. Government debt loves inflation. Individuals not so much! I had a chance that is not so available today!

[@rafewheadon1963]

you lucky bastard.

[@awen777]

What's really funny is at the time everyone (and I mean everyone!) told me it was the stupidest thing to do! They said rent would spiral downwards in the future due to overbuilding!@@rafewheadon1963

[@JacobBogers]

Thanks Boomer you for voting for running the printing press and fucking over future generations so you could retire comfortably

[@alistairclark6814]

People who's primary income that comes from investing is reliant on inflation and prices constantly going up. It's no coincidence those people are in politics influencing policy that benefits their investments.

[@idminister]

house inflation: 10x, education: 40x, salary inlation: ? the issue isnt inflation, the issue is when things are not inflated in balance with each other

[@antarcticorb9197]

Utility Delta, I'll use that the next time I order at the drive through...

[@antarcticorb9197]

@Leanne Wesk correct, difference of what I ordered as opposed to what I get.

[@antarcticorb9197]

@Leanne Wesk so you took my burger!

[@insipylipy]

“What’s the utility difference between the cheeseburger and the chicken nuggets?”

[@MyselfStefano]

@Leanne Wesk *GIVE HIM HIS BURGER BACK, YOU THIEF!*

[@antarcticorb9197]

@@MyselfStefano 😂

[@crackwitz]

Casually using "delta" in convos signals his peer group

[@skipperofschool8325]

what does it mean?

[@TeacherToolkitDemo]

@@skipperofschool8325 delta is a Greek letter it means change in science.

[@skipperofschool8325]

@@TeacherToolkitDemo so he said "utility delta (change)" like a.. change of.. utilities? ???

[@keiharris332]

@@skipperofschool8325 what I believe this means is how effective your creation is in comparison to the most cutting edge technology.

[@skipperofschool8325]

@@keiharris332 ohh, ok thank you

[@Civ33]

Only time you should consider a PhD is if you want to go into R&D. Only time you should consider getting a masters is if there is something you specifically want to do that can only be done with a masters. Otherwise, simply having a degree is fine if the field is in demand. Another thing. People get too caught up on "This successful person didn't have a PhD" or "That successful person didn't finish college"....those people are(or were) usually self motivated individuals who went into their programs with an understanding of the subjects in their curriculum and didn't feel there was anything more for them to learn, and left to do something very specific like start a business or pursue a field of research. These aren't stories of people who failed at college and found success elsewhere, so don't try to compare yourself to them just cause you didn't make it through school. Motivation, discipline, and vision are the keys to success

[@pratibhas2468]

Underrated comment

[@safffff1000]

Just pass the exam boards you want to work in and show what you have done in those fields over the last to yrs. The best people have been dabbling in their fields since early teens

[@hammerfist8763]

It's not about what can only be done with a master's, and a PhD is not only for R&D. One of the most useful PhD's for high tech innovation is a PhD in applied math. Godlike problem solving skills are always useful.

[@safffff1000]

@@hammerfist8763 Lol, mathematics depend on good true premises which is oftened assumed

[@hammerfist8763]

@@safffff1000 I clearly stated Applied Math. Not theoretical. Premises are required for rigorous proofs. Not for volumetric analysis, applied game theory, statistical quality control, differential or matrix math used to solve problems in a production or fabrication environment. Who's going to be better at applying math than an applied mathematician?

[@Lea_5584]

I did a PhD because it was the easiest way to immigrate from the Middle East to Europe. Then, I immigrated to the US and got a job in learning and development. If I were born and raised in a developed country, I would have never thought of going through the hardship of a PhD.

[@Mahalakshmi-Khan]

Hey Im currently studying HR and L&D. Can you explain in brief which courses/colleges you went to and what were the job prospects for this field in the european country you went to?

[@sarahleeblanc8274]

@@Mahalakshmi-KhanYou are a crazy person asking a random person such question.

[@Mahalakshmi-Khan]

@@sarahleeblanc8274 why?

[@Mahalakshmi-Khan]

@@sarahleeblanc8274 stop poking your nose in others business

[@Lea_5584]

@Mahalakshmi-Khan Hi, I did a PhD. in organizational behavior at the University of Paris Nanterre and then a postdoctoral fellowship in impact assessment of learning programs. In parallel, I gave courses in HR and project management at multiple universities and business schools in France. Afterward, I immigrated to the US and wanted to move to industry. I started by working on my own as a learning programs developer for small clients (the first ones where friends who have startups and for whom I did some projects for free just to gain some experience and fill my CV) + earned some certificatios in HR and instructional design. 2 years later, I applied for positions in learning and development and got a position of a Learning Program Manager at a construction company in the US.

[@jackb8598]

“How can people be useful who wanna be” Elon: “well actually I have a math formula for that.”

[@laughingoutloud3713]

Elon in 2025: just buy our robot, he'll replace you

[@vincentpham8605]

That doesn't surprise me

[@09GunNut]

I think this way too. Just lack of funds to bring my ideas to life lol

[@versus8035]

Underrated comment right here 😂

[@fundermentalist9473]

Brilliant 👍😂

[@juanramirez3824]

He threw in a real life formula

[@fredducaunt]

😂😂 Sure

[@mileshall9235]

​@@fredducaunt You're mocking because you're too sdupit to understand 😂

[@monzerfaisal3673]

​@@zak61221well time isn't infinite in practice. We all die at some point so you should only consider a lifetime

[@DarkKnight-wf3po]

​@@monzerfaisal3673or maybe even more in some cases.

[@Pencheff87]

​@@zak61221which due to the finite lifespan of humans affected is still awesome, as it essentially makes the limited time spent alive better. Plus it only goes to zero if left untouched - if constantly maintained or even improved it itself goes to infinity.

[@mr-boo]

For those that get confused about what "utility delta" is: utility (of your creation) means usefulness/value and is a common term in fields such as economics, game theory and machine learning. Delta can be understood as difference/change. So the utility delta of something you'd want to create simply means the added value of the thing you want to create. Also, using terms like this is not a sign of intelligence or sophistication. It's a sign that you hang out with a particular group of people that commonly use such terms and have incorporated those terms into your own vocabulary because you also find utility in using them. What utility he finds in using them, I leave up to you to decide.

[@thekingsdaughter4233]

Thank you. This is not part of my everyday vocabulary, snd i was hung up on the shape of the letter *∆* thinking of a three-way connection or effect or something... 🤷

[@Action2me]

This dude said Elon is using big words to sound smart lmao

[@Migglefitch]

Very good.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@Flawda986]

Well done! You have a heart of gold. It comes through in your thoughts.

[@alicevanderbruggen1339]

Thank you. I wasn’t quite sure but got the sense that THAT was what he was talking about.

[@michaelbrown7142]

As someone who considered getting a PhD, I agree with that, too many people pursue a PhD as a way to demand a higher salary or consider themselves more intelligent then others, which is not necessarily the case.

[@tysolbohan6446]

Well clearly this is wrong to get a PhD you need to first pass your GCSEs then go to your a levels and get 7 to 8 then go to uni which is difficult in its own right then have to pass through 11 years of that there is no way PhDs don't require super high IQ and natural ability your comment holds so much delusion it's like those who think any 1 can become rich with effort no they can't genetics places a massive barrier this is like those who use this mentality to screw over disabled people even knowing genetic bio bank data exists with high causation between poverty and iq they still jump back to disabled people and tell those people it's there fault and there not trying hard enough well maybe humans are the sacred cows if your a creationist but if you accept darwin which i assume you do you would realize most of our actions is done by our neural wiring and our genetics

[@Circe_the_daughter_of_sun]

why didn't you get PhD?

[@quantumpolariton122]

If you do a PhD for those reasons you’re likely not to finish. It’s requires high level of self motivation to complete which you can do only if you’re motivated.

[@louieracks2270]

he lost me at “utility delta”

[@piotrka2842]

Delta is difference. So how much more better/different this new "thing" would be

[@rizkyekaputra9960]

Its how useful your idea is. Very useful for small number of people (Cancer cure) Or quite useful for vast number of people (Entertainment)

[@brotherbodhi237]

@@rizkyekaputra9960 cancer cure would be for a vast number of people. Cancer causes 1 in every 6 deaths. You’re talking about something that kills tens of millions of people every year

[@lindamarietorres1355]

Haha 😂

[@ivette3324]

🤣

[@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye]

Elon: says we probably don’t need PhDs Me: needs a phd to understand what he said next

[@Applecompuser]

He just is not good an explaining things. People should persue their passion but be realistic about their earnings Elon should stop getting high and getting on Twitter or running toward a microphone.

[@lavishlivingta8956]

He said mostly not probably tf laced meth you smoking that you need a phd to understand what he said next. He literally chuckled and gave a slight laugh while saying some yes but mostly not. Me personally I need help with wtf he said next after that starting at utility delta.

[@artugert]

I didn’t even go to college, but found it quite easy to understand. Probably has more to do with what books you read and what media you consume.

[@Applecompuser]

@@artugert He seems like an attention whore to me. The topics seem to be ego based rather than to further the interests of one of his businesses. I was routing for his car company to do well, but shortly he will not even be the top ev seller.

[@rickeytan9530]

@@Applecompuser ok dude, you telling Elon musk what to do lol

[@flyberd7848]

Degrees aren’t necessary but they are very helpful at showing time management, dedication, goal driven people who can problem solve and complete tasks. That’s what company’s want

[@quantumpolariton122]

Medical doctors should not have a degree ?

[@flyberd7848]

@@quantumpolariton122 you do realize there are other degrees besides MDs, right? Obviously I’m not saying doctors but you’re wanting to feel smart and decided to argue against a point I clearly didn’t make. Trying to take arguing out of the shower eh?

[@quantumpolariton122]

@@flyberd7848 well then you should have not generalised. And phds not just degrees are necessary to work to some companies, like many chemical company in Germany and say research department at intel, so your wrong there too.

[@flyberd7848]

@@quantumpolariton122 what about degrees in horticulture, botany, zoology, software design, web design, coding, geology… these are examples, that you will find people in the real world don’t always have degrees for and they have experience. Even in chemical/lab research some people may not have degrees, I’ve worked in labs where my lab manager didn’t have a bachelors (she was an idiot). I did say degrees were helpful dumb dumb. I didn’t say you didn’t need one, but degrees were helpful because it is possible to have experience that replaces the need for one. In the real world you will find even the EPA desires degrees but will also look at experience. Experience is really helpful but degrees are easier to showcase knowledge and abilities. Reading comprehension must be hard.

[@quantumpolariton122]

@@flyberd7848 answer me one question, dumb dumb. How do you get experience in a company if you don’t even have a degree to show them? and your mixing many different professions together. You can learn web design but certainly not zoology. Do you realise that researcher in zoology at a university, not only has a degree but a PhD, then several years post doc experience, then several years as a research fellow , and then only can you get a permanent position at the university? If you wanna talk out of your back side at least turn around so I can hear you properly

[@MS-fg8qo]

All of his technology comes from former doctors of physics, chemistry, engineering, maths. Standing on the shoulders of giants, Elon.

[@rockssolid2543]

Michael Faraday and Sir Isaac Newton didn't have PhDs either.

[@AZRN928]

My grandpa was an "engineer" for Allison and developed helicopter engines for defense contracts. He had zero degrees.

[@MS-fg8qo]

@@rockssolid2543 Feynman, Dirac, Einstein, Heisenberg, von Neumann, (...), did. What's the point?

[@rockssolid2543]

@@MS-fg8qo Takes a PhD to know.

[@williamzk9083]

Musk got an electrical engineering degree. He might’ve benefited from a masters, but certainly some people don’t benefit from advanced degrees. But the fundamental physics and chemistry sometimes does need advanced research degrees.

[@rodrigobraz2]

He didn't laugh at the idea of getting a PhD. He even said it is right for some people. He just laughed at the unconventional nature of his answer.

[@kaijen2688]

Its like the joke about physicts. If they didnt get a phd to teach theory, they are fairly useless. I have a friend with a Maaters in math and for him to get a job is hard. Most of the time he gets jobs in computer science writing software.

[@JacobBogers]

@@kaijen2688 a Phd in mathematics is very overkill for someone who wants to code php/c/whatever, a MSc in mathematics already means he performs at the top level of coders.

[@TheHermitProcess]

@@JacobBogersyou do know there is an entire career called scientific programming right? Web dev jobs are stupid. A PhD in applied mathematics is just the entry point to the gigantic career of a scientific programmer, and newsflash, it is MUCH harder than web dev.

[@MrTurner94]

As a PhD student…he’s right

[@country10359]

As someone graduating this summer with a PhD, I agree! Hang in there btw!

[@karimyassine5932]

Tbh i have met lots of Phd students and i can say they are not most of the wise people ive met in life .They cant even win an argument ,prove their point or even like Evolve in the society or cope with a group of People.

[@fatgirl4501]

@@karimyassine5932 she says eloquently in a totally coherent sentence…

[@daisuke910]

@@karimyassine5932 because those people only get PhD not because they wanted to, but either following others or recommended to them.

[@spurcalluth6300]

@@karimyassine5932, the more I work on my Ph.D., the more I second-guess myself. I'm definitely not going to convince you of anything if I can't even convince myself. On the other hand, I can prove pretty conclusively that if you haven't studied at all what I've been working on for years, you definitely don't have a clue about it.

[@lacolem1]

It’s a pretty sensible answer, no shade intended. PhDs are time consuming and often expensive, focusing on a narrow rail of knowledge. Most likely your overall impact will be minimal. But you get to study what interests you, and if you’re lucky, gain useful skills

[@user-hv5kf6gl2k]

❤🎉🎉❤Bravo Mt Musk Elon

[@primordiallab]

True. Yes. I did what interested me. It was a conundrum I was bent on solving, creating a path to, and did. It was the big exercise that beckoned and PhD, the discipline. Money not it

[@chickenindoubleC]

For commenters reading this, in the U.S. PhD programs pay you a stipend. It's just a job. The only potentially "expensive" part is that you are missing out on income, I suppose. Also, in the U.S., programs prefer you not to have an MA.

[@quantumpolariton122]

Like already mentioned, you get paid for a PhD not the other way around. The amount of problem you encounter during your PhD makes you a good problem solver, a good communicator, and to be able to think critically, all useful transferrable skils

[@GawrGurasBathTubPizza]

answer is yes and no, degrees don't mean you can get rich, BUT i wouldn't trust a person to design a skyscrapper or a surgeon to operate on me and tell me a degree its just a piece of paper

[@Me_Caveman]

I'd take an old and experienced person over a young person with fifty degrees; experience even conquers intelligence.

[@AmadeuShinChan]

… which at the end of the day it is, a piece of paper. And many only learn what they’re fed by their teachers. Been alive during the past 3-4 years, should give you an idea of what i am talking about. Many only follow orders.

[@MarktrustingJesus]

A PhD is only 1 kind of degree. A bs or masters yes, PhD? Thete are a ton of masters degrees that are useless out there.

[@arishemthejudge6780]

@@Me_Cavemanintelligence brings about innovation. an old and experienced individual would do something which has already been done, just efficiently. its the degrees which bring about a new line of thinking and different approaches to a problem. both have their good sides

[@MiketheCoder]

@@Me_Cavemanyou can’t just cut open people or design a toy bridge in your garage and then operate on people

[@ktn8329]

Misleading title. People spin Musk up too often to be a “college is useless” advocate. The idea he expresses here is reality, however. Continued education such as masters and PhDs are *sometimes* useful. But they aren’t useless or a waste of time for every career field. In heavily expertise fields it can be very helpful. Take his own company for example, engineers working on Tesla products greatly benefit from continued college education. That isn’t to say it’s impossible to gain an education without experience in the field in lieu of it, but gaining experience in *parallel* with an education can expedite peoples progress.

[@Soliye.]

Yeah I don’t think saying whether or not school is useful in a KZbin Short’s the best way to go. If it was an hour long debate then it’d be interesting.

[@klj2382]

having a degree does show that you’re willing to put it the hard work to get something achieved, whatever it may be.

[@jessejive117]

Well of course. Nobody thinks a PhD is useless in all fields. What most people go to school for is useless even if they get a PhD. Yeah if you’re going to be a doctor obviously it’s very useful. No one would ever say being a doctor and getting educated to be a doctor is bad. Except like 16 people on earth and they are morons. You can be very against higher education in every way and then still acknowledge but if you want to go to school for a handful of certain fields it’s a great idea if you stick to it and do it intelligently

[@rabhav1443]

Engineering is applied science so it makes sense for a degree. For most other things degree is a waste of time that slows down education. Learning directly from the experts is the best form of education better than any degree or PhD in the world.

[@mnpry87]

Any engineering job at tesla, spacex, etc requires an engineering degree. One only needs to look at the job postings.

[@visionvixxen]

😂😂😂 I love it,” Mostly not.”

[@deborah9384]

So true

[@gaigestorm8155]

I got cert 1, 2, 3, 4, a diploma, then masters in IT, got nowhere with it but cleaning out keyboards. Went for a internship with a indie animation studio which cost nothing and am now a professional cartoonist and animator wokring for Fountain's Pen Productions in L.A

[@ninakeehner607]

Elon is a unique forward thinker. He knows what companies look for. Don't waste money and time, do your thing 💯

[@PowerandControlUFU]

As someone who has a PhD in electrical engineering, I have to agree with him. It’s complicated.

[@mryellow6918]

If you can findsomone that you think is capable of it but doesn't have one. It's better to hire them and train them to do they job instead of them focusing years trying to generalise a subject?

[@crisbowman]

@@mryellow6918 Depends on the person. Some train easier in particular fields and might also learn slower in other areas.

[@sinjinsmythe1571]

I'm an electrician....... what was your thesis about...?

[@Quinu12]

I have a double masters. I think I use two classes from all that coursework.

[@lukemarvenko2845]

Would you recommend electrical engineering over electrical maintenance. I’m currently in trade school and not sure if the 4 more years of school is worth it.

[@BrianGivensYtube]

He’s saying getting a PhD in some cases is not the correct trajectory for someone with a great idea. If you have a phenomenal business idea, going into business school for 4 years would not be the best or quickest route to creating your business.

[@Z3phlar]

PhD takes lot more than 4 years

[@FruitCoupes]

@@Z3phlar they weren’t referring to a phd in the second paragraph bud

[@Z3phlar]

@@FruitCoupes I think they were bud. Give your balls a tug.

[@mrspams3489]

@@FruitCoupes he was. Even says going to "business school for 4 years" in the second paragraph.

[@loooongneck]

@@mrspams3489 yes. Business school. Not a post-graduate program for a PhD.

[@user-tz5tx4nz7d]

Absolutely! Everybody has their gift, focus on what that is and find the tools that make that gift happen!

[@duckmangooo7376]

College used to be an education program, now it's a business.

[@dstarboi9965]

Tesla and space x both require advanced degrees or serious experience that you can only get… through advance degrees

[@venus-pq5gg]

I think he’s talking generally about the world population as a whole

[@colleenconway2689]

Not everyone can and will be a rocket scientist, doctor, or engineer.

[@luisvillalobos6517]

That's absolutely not true. If you can show certain qualities or level of thinking and problem solving, you can get the job. He doesn't hire on the basis of some paper that you may or may not have obtained on your own. He hires based on skills and thinking that you demonstrate in the hiring process. If you're a programmer, you have to be able to demonstrate you understand programming verbally, situationally, and through a demonstration of your ability through a test or series of questions. If you're a forklift driver.... not nearly as complicated. I am actually going through the hiring process now.

[@deborah9384]

@@luisvillalobos6517 you rock. !

[@PrtySmrt]

That's because the actual answer is mostly yes.

[@sovereign797]

Not everyone on the team needs a PhD, but its good to have at least one or more on the team.

[@Nostrudoomus]

Years ago I came up with an idea 💡 of how to integrate suspension into a bicycle wheel. It sounds like a great idea 💡 to start with but when you actually build one you realize even if it magically worked perfectly it’s NOT a good idea and you then realize how good swing arm suspension is, which you can not understand until going through this exercise. Then years later some kid built exactly what I had thought of and he went to the trouble to finish it, patent it, and try to market it. NO ONE WOULD BUY IT, because it is TO HEAVY! And he got a lot of good press on it. I realized trying out my prototype, it would add too much weight, too much apparatus to the whole bike, and the total amount of suspension too small so not really not attractive as a product at all. One day a version of wheel integrated suspension may become the standard, but that will only happen when a material much stronger than current metals and just as machinable and weldable is used in building bikes.

[@rodschmidt8952]

I wonder if the kid got leverage out of that good press and went on to do something that DID work

[@vls3771]

I think the main message is in the line" Create" something that makes a difference" ... If a phd is directly a part of if that then it does matter if not probably not You can be a highly trained musician and never write a song you will be employed by those who write the songs many of those cannot even read music.....

[@AMPMGrind]

Looking for a reaction “if you want to be useful should you get a PHD” is a silly question. It will depend on the person. Too many variables

[@kenace1677]

I have always wanted to expand my business but I could not do that because the cash was not forth coming as I had planned

[@robh467]

...compared to robots; ehh. Doesn't matter.

[@kevinzhang6623]

If you want to make every single useful person more useful, get a PhD. If you want to be a useful individual, stay at Bachelor's.

[@ytcmtr4917]

Leading/loaded question more like. Take any degree/skill one wants to argue against, and one can come up with such a question.

[@jonathanh3889]

Once the mind becomes focused, learning never stops. Constantly evolving.

[@tudiecampagna5793]

I am constantly learning! I absolutely love information providing shows. Even like utube and Google! I watch documentaries because I like them!

[@agnivabanerjee3983]

​@@tudiecampagna5793Good 😀😀😀

[@eduardomendoza2015]

😅😅😅

[@mr.kilpatrick2991]

yep - its at that point that lectures have less success because your mind goes on autopilot to go in the direction to learn what it needs - it begins to feed itself

[@realitynewsbytes]

Brilliantly answered Elon... brilliant....!!!

[@sudika108]

It's amazing how he sounds perfectly South African and then American in one statement

[@con_el_maestro3544]

South African?😂

[@lilpenn7516]

@@con_el_maestro3544 Elon musk is from south africa

[@jamalyeboah4322]

@@con_el_maestro3544Elon musk is South African is their point lol

[@con_el_maestro3544]

@@jamalyeboah4322 yeah and I'm also South African, and Afrikaans people do not sound like Elon Musk

[@sammymngomezulu7513]

​@@con_el_maestro3544because he is not Afrikaner, more Anglo than anything else.

[@wathog01]

The thing about PhD, you think it’s all the great stuff but when you ask someone who is in the process for 4-5 years most of them will tell you it’s a waste of time and effort. But the cold hard truth is, you have to waste these efforts in order to know what is important and how to do things. There’s no easy way around it, both for Elon and a normal PhD student.

[@sexykjetil]

And if you want to work for Elon, you probably need to have a PhD. So I think it's kind of idiotic statement, since he wouldn't hire anyone without.

[@mrspams3489]

@@sexykjetil yea but he is selling his image here. Its about promoting his brand, the "too cool for school" kid. And as you said, as if he hires people without a phd.

[@sexykjetil]

@@mrspams3489 The dangerous thing is that young people are easily led by this people, not only Elon but so many others who gives so called advice for success. Hopefully most have a strong father figure in the home, that can guide the kids the best way.

[@allsides5626]

The thing is PhD is useless, if you didn't learn anything while in the process. It's the same with education, you can memories and get a good mark. That's awesome, but then you learn almost nothing and regret later. I feel that, education system is broken phrase is not fully right. I do agree that the way we compress so much in very short amount that, students have no way but memorise. But I feel like this exams and PhD and university, isn't just to study and have a degree or certificate. But it's more into, the process you make up to get that degree, because the process is what makes your degree worth. Not that final exam nor the degree itself. Just giving my opinion here, you can contribute how ever you want!

[@sexykjetil]

@@allsides5626 you said it all, maybe you won't need to know the answer...But you will need the tools you picked up on the way, because you will encounter new problems to solve!

[@stevengreidinger3304]

Just because Elon quit his doctorate doesn’t mean he should encourage that. Doctorate holders develop specialized expertise which is difficult to learn in another setting.

[@zxtsf]

Do you believe getting doctorate from universities makes you a good doctor, NO a doctorate of FOOLISHNESS, AND MADNESS, study how people with more education ruin the environment the mind the future and everything they touch, This is not development, this is Time wastage and downgrade of mind Waste of time Ignorance in its highest form, education is causing Reverse Evolution. I dont believe in Evolution but I believe in Reverse Evolution. When I see universities ruin life ,play with human beings

[@user-qv8uy6qg4k]

Ive never felt more safe than the time i went to see a doctor who didn't have a PhD

[@dfjpr]

😂😂😂😂

[@Circe_the_daughter_of_sun]

doctors don't have Phd. They earn MD. not the same thing.

[@barnesnplebian6462]

Elon: nah bro you don't need a PhD Elon's HR: PhD with 20 years industry experience in xyz required for this position

[@_bug_y.t]

He is talking about billionaire people, not for an ordinary people.

[@aabc]

@@_bug_y.t its not "ordinary people".. its the people who made musk billionare in the first place.. its them who actually did the big brain work of inventing these technologies.. musk is just a businessman, not an inventor

[@meepaleep]

He has said on many occasions he hires people without degrees

[@AmritenduRana31082000]

​@@aabc that's bullshit. 🤣They are just labours who are taking orders and working on his vision and plans.By your logic ,every business owner and entrepreneurs are stupid and the employees are the smart people.A company with 1000 employees and no leader will go nowhere.If he could,he could do it all alone but to do a scalable business you need workers who you give commands to and you give back benefits for their time and skills.Your comment is so stupid 🤣

[@bobmango8472]

@@aabc ah yes. chief engineer. definitely just a businessman.

[@Donarturo650]

My coworker in the roofing union studied at Stanford university and got doctoral degree after many years. He still can’t find work because he doesn’t have work experience. He’s currently full of debt. Now he’s working as an apprentice making what I made 4 years ago. I make $30 an hour more than him and debt free! He will eventually make as much as me but college isn’t always the solution to make good money. And have the weekends off unless you want overtime! 💰

[@MrE.888]

But i bet he at least understands the question and answer in this video

[@MiketheCoder]

What did he study at Stanford?

[@diverman1023]

That’s sounds weird, what did he get his PhD in? These days a STEM PhD from a tier 1 school is an immediate 150-250k starting salary and it only goes up from there

[@rdompt]

@@diverman1023 The comment is probably not true. If by any chance it were, it must have been a very niche degree, or the person didn't take advantage of any of the university infrastructures and has a bad resume.

[@quantumpolariton122]

I mean thats all very well. But a PhD is designed for someone who wishes to do scientific research (academia), not for someone who wishes to go into industry. Hence why the misalignment between the skills set require, but this is it always the case as someone said above if you are a STEM PhD. Just so you know this.

[@truending]

As someone with a pH.D. I approve his message.

[@avres13]

It depends what you’re getting your PhD in. Like if you have a PhD in art or literature chances are it’s pretty useless and you’ll drown in debt.

[@suktsk986]

Summarized : to become the most useful is to find a way to impact a vast amount of people, create something of that sort that makes a difference. It's not about phds but how far you can think and create.

[@vebdaklu]

@@martingarreis You summed up what he said in a perfect way! Hats off! People don't seem to consider who is telling the message, and in this case, it is very important.

[@reck0n3r]

"The Best for the Group comes when everyone in the group does what's best for himself AND the group." - John Nash, Mathematician & Nobel Laureate

[@user-vt5gk8fn4v]

Yes. ”Ubuntu”. If something isn’t good for everyone it is not good for anyone.

[@grahammewburn]

Fix the dependence of modern agriculture on oil. Currently an oil crisis means a food crisis

[@lemdennis862]

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[@jacobinsstephen8217]

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[@GeogieKristali]

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[@jerrymichael4707]

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[@MonicaRobert-yu2uk]

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[@MonicaRobert-yu2uk]

I started with 7000usd then increased to 13000usd after receiving my profit to.

[@briannacollins1442]

For me getting a degree is about studying with discipline, some cannot focus without money or grades being involved

[@zxtsf]

We don't need to have money to create prosperity, money robbed us from our wealth

[@shakya00]

It's as dumb as saying "do you think people who want to be useful become a firefighter as the best way to achieve it ?" There is no single path to be useful, it would be counterproductive if everyone had a PhD or worked as a firefighter. But it doesn't mean he thinks that's useless...just saying because some people didn't get Elon's speech.

[@richardboran749]

Most don’t understand the term Delta. One def means Change. Delta force means they can change things rapidly on the move according to the needs of the mission. Change-Force.

[@springcrocus7flower635]

Thank you!! I was lost!!

[@steventorres1792]

This man is literally Tony stark

[@xzjulius]

Bro just created an equation for the meaning of life.

[@entelektuel.yolculuk]

nope, he did it fer capitalism :)

[@fredducaunt]

Npc spotted

[@Srt3D01-db-01]

Hey , look another gruppie

[@jameelisaac7122]

​@@Srt3D01-db-01😂

[@user-zt7vb9kt8l]

​@@entelektuel.yolculukhe said useful not profitable.

[@RodriguezProductionz]

I love how he barely blinks like a robot would

[@ChrisLee-yr7tz]

Ambiguous statement detected. Exterminate.

[@Livingbeing01]

Well, I have been blessed with this life just once, I have only one life...I don't care whether other people consider my work "useful". Like people, don't ask yourself "how to be useful", just do what makes you happy (yeah I am not practical but who cares)

[@user-yv6nb8md2u]

Do what you like to do will make you most useful ❤❤

[@0Demiyah0]

I always get asked why I did not pursue a PhD (as I have a research master and publications). The honest answer is that I don't see that for the type of impact I want to have, I need to write for a niche of 50 experts in my own room. Somebody else might thrive on that, but I like to work for shorter goals, more gratification, more visible outcome.

[@scottcarter828]

You are right, For others and yourself short-term goals and achievements Benefiting more people, is what he is talking about is better usually.

[@TheHermitProcess]

And what did you research? I can’t imagine anyone ever saying that about true chemistry physics and biology research. It’s either private research or academic, and good luck getting a private research gig without a PhD haha.

[@0Demiyah0]

@@TheHermitProcess I worked for a think tank on a project basis, and I work in academia, it's not unthinkable at all to co-auther a research publication in my position to the network I have in my role. But it's not my primary goal either.

[@gregnixon1296]

"... I like to work for shorter goals, more gratification, more visible outcome." Huge applause for that perspective.

[@Circe_the_daughter_of_sun]

I'm now thinking whether I should pursue PhD in Molecular Biology or not... I have Master in Cell Research and I was always thinking that I want to do PhD... but I cannot see the final goal. I'm not planning to become a Professor neither I want to, but I just don't know what to do.... I also don't want to do routine work at some Biotech company.... especially since the salaries there are not that great, not like in the HighTech. Is anyone there in the same situation as me? Or perhaps was? Any ideas? help?

[@Pazaluz]

"How should someone figure out how they can be more useful?" -"Well, the most useful thing they can do is volunteer to go to Mars."

[@robh467]

...become a robot.

[@KathleenMortensen]

🚀

[@GeneralFactCheck]

*Legitimate Education/proof of real merit:* .Military Experience .Trade Certification .College degree in Engineering or Computer Science *Illegitimate Education/does not suggest one has any real merit:* .College degree in anything outside of engineering and computer science

[@citrosoda5370]

What’s wrong with Statistics? 🤨

[@TXY3008]

He deserves a Nobel preize for all of his contributions to the humanity and for standing with people of Israel. God bless him ❤

[@jeffmorrison2915]

Wow I was not expecting such a superb comment! Impressed once again.

[@dgrant7291]

Few Engineers get PHDs or even Master's Degrees. They do get many further certifications and PE licenses etc because they are practical and useful. Its not all research. Engineers are the ones who attempt to make PhD's theories actually work in real life.

[@buellterrier3596]

You are correct. I have Engineers working under me. And yes, i have a PhD.

[@patrickjohnson568]

In other words, in the words of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory, the Oompa Loompa's of science, lol.

[@buellterrier3596]

@@patrickjohnson568 🤣 Spot on!

[@feelingtardy]

engineers make lots of things work...on paper, lol. so many engineered stuff that is on a set of drawings often gets "modified" in the field so it will actually work. and engineers continue to make the same mistakes because they refuse to leave their chair

[@dgrant7291]

Thats why they make "as built" drawings. But any significant changes will only go thru engr or they blow their errors and omissions insurance. Someone with a degree has to sign off on the drawings@@feelingtardy

[@stepal6958]

The guy was born rich and invested/bought into companies. I have no idea why people look to him as some genius who has all the answers to life.

[@jaydarilar]

The dude is on drugs. Without a PhD, how you are gonna call a person a professor or something?

[@WaveBreakr]

I’d love to see this full interview, what’s it from?

[@hooeygames]

Leaving a reply in hopes someone drops the link

[@straus2785]

Ted

[@patricklacey4946]

Agreed, the context around this conversation would be....useful

[@Josef_1186]

I think this might be from MKBHD’s interview with hom

[@willitbreak5825]

Here’s the link to Elon’s interview with Sam Altman: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp-lgqB7pqd2j5I

[@al5612]

The average person who just finished high-school at 18 is going to be in the labour force till ~55. I'd rather spend 4 years enhancing my overall level of education and then proceed with working the next 32 years than I would just working for 37 years. People are in such a rush. There is too much life ahead to try and have everything you want instantly.

[@16m49x3]

Only thing that actually is a rush is having children and not dying before they get married

[@entelektuel.yolculuk]

​@@16m49x3 why? Having children is not a rush. I think definitely every healthy couple should at least 1 child that's trve, but what is in a rush is intellect, money, sexuality, love, sports, health, nature ye know...

[@Gameboob]

A PhD is about 6 years on top of those 4 though

[@billwilliams699]

Most people do not retire at 55. The average age has been 61 the past several years and is likely to increase

[@eveningglow9023]

He has a avatar for every year 😂

[@user-qy6os2ij8d]

Elon you are a blessing for our country.❤

[@jennifers6560]

This is going to be on my microeconomics final.

[@jesusguerrero4097]

THANKS FOR THE INFO ELON!!👍👍👍👍

[@chickenindoubleC]

Good answer to a strange question. Here's my take. I wanted to teach at a college level in the U.S. To do that where I want to, I need a PhD. Simple as that. The only question you need to ask is whether you NEED it. Also, two things people dont often know about PhD programs in the U.S. A) they pay you to go--it's a job. B) In most programs I know of, it is preferred you do not have an MA degree first.

[@CHXFIT95]

An absolute genius in our time. 160 IQ or more. When someone asks you a question , you probably have 1-2 answers. This man probably has 50-100+. It must be tough to have that mind but also some may argue a blessing.

[@safrew1]

Being a good parent fits his category.

[@mipmipmipmipmip]

If only he'd remember all his kids' names first

[@queenj.8i895]

Amen!

[@DuffyWayne]

if nobody pursues PhD's anymore in science and technology, who will conduct the research that advances our understanding of science and who will teach the next generation of scientists and engineers?

[@frankchen4229]

You're trying to use logic in this circle. It won't work

[@Wirmish]

Einstein and Tesla (Nikola) didn't have a PhD.

[@Oseiwe]

8 out of 10 (in Nigeria, with Nigerians anywhere they may be, 9.999 out of 10.000) go for a PhD to get a title. To hell with any research or the betterment of mankind. That's why only very few of them turn out to have any value to society. It's all about ego and better life prospects. Same with the other degree levels. It's all a waste of time and money for the overwhelming number of people. And they're progressively getting dumber and dumber every decade

[@jpete3027666]

People with PhD’s in my opinion are the people that usually are the worst at training and teaching others. A PhD isn’t required for advancement in technology. Elon just said they are useful but for most people a PhD is not, and he’s right.

[@KrakenIsMahB]

certainly, not the most people will advance the science and civilization or teach next generation. Hence most people shouldnt go for PhD

[@ReactionOverrideMedia]

Damn, that was smart as hell. I love this guy.

[@Creezusz]

Huh??? You can create something that affects a small number of people or a huge number of people. Ah okay now what

[@ReactionOverrideMedia]

@@Creezusz he just gave you the formula for measuring the impact of success for any idea. Look at the original question, “Should kids pursue a PHD?” He answered how you determine if it’s worth it.

[@Creezusz]

@@ReactionOverrideMedia That's not a formula. And you might even call it wrong, as the amount of people affected by something does not automatically mean it yields profits for you or is a good effect on others. "What benefits come from an idea" itself is not at all a profound formula. Every person does that when they enter a supermarket or apply for a job.

[@springcrocus7flower635]

What did he say?

[@ReactionOverrideMedia]

@@Creezusz are you a bot?

[@user-ug5ve2ju3h]

Follow your heart. Follow your personal truth. If your truth is to obtain a PhD in a subject, then that is what you do.

[@DCGreenZone]

Immunoseb and Immunbio, CoQ10 and Lipoic Acid, Palmitoylethanolamide are listed as possible therapeutic interventions in papers on the NIH. A Randomized Controlled Trial of the Efficacy of Systemic Enzymes and Probiotics in the Resolution of Post-COVID Fatigue

[@jordansikes534]

"SOO TRUE!!!" - anti-college people

[@IoannisKourouklides]

PhD is not a taught degree. 🤦‍♂️ You are just the cheap labour of academia. They should ban PhD degrees.

[@nabayanchakma2419]

Lol

[@SokumenTop]

As they type this out on phones that years of university research made possible

[@Skirk84]

Best haircut he has had to date

[@EricaMusk]

true

[@user-fs2ij3ev4c]

ปัญหาของคนเรียนสูงบางคน พูดได้แต่ทำไม่ได้ ทุกอย่างต้องอดทนและอดทนแม้จะนานแค่ไหนจะทำอะไรก็ต้องควบคู่วิทยาศาสตร ทำไห้เห็นไห้รู้ ไห้ยอมรับสิ่งนั้นจากคนธรรมดา ที่สำคัญชาวบ้านที่ไม่น่าเชื่อถีอ แต่อยู่ที่เรามุ่งมั่น และพิสูจน์ได้ปกติมันอยู่แต่บนหิ้ง แต่อนาคตมันคงมีความหวัง

[@maxxhanley9006]

As a retired RN I found. a university nursing system a poor program. Nursing was more effective from a 3 year focus of nursing.

[@TheOriginalJohnDoe]

PhD students are the people who push the general human knowledge further and are the ones that are contributing to science. Those people are the reason why we have the things that we have discovered up until these days.

[@virginiasanchez4614]

Yes and no.

[@murat2070]

Nicola Tesla has no any master phd or even the degree lol

[@alanlight7740]

In a few fields, yes - but mostly no. For the most part academia trails behind the innovators and just catalogs what the innovators have already accomplished.

[@Mahrooshay]

Not all, mostly not. Research is not that easy. Some people do phD just to have a dr written before their names. Trust me

[@MiketheCoder]

@@murat2070he would’ve gotten it if it wasn’t WW1 and WW2

[@nocturnalreverie]

I find the way Elon’s brain works to be absolutely fascinating. I was never a numbers person, but I like how calculated he is with his analysis. It’s almost like anything in life could be a mathematical formula.

[@andrewjohnston8982]

The way Elon's brain works is it thinks complicated things can be simplified to simple formulas, resulting in him vastly over promising and under delivering. Most of his ideas are a load of shit. He said the Hyperloop was as simple as an air hockey table inside a tube. Not true, and like most of his dumb ideas is in the process of failing.

[@slimpockets]

Very true. As a matter of fact, just about anything you can comprehend in totality, can be written down mathematically. A contradictory example of this is, infinity. This is often where either our minds can not comprehend, or our math is incomplete. Have fun with that rabbit hole!

[@doblet664]

@@BigReptileCrew 🤡👉🗑️

[@dearmadeline]

@@BigReptileCrew orrrr you're a salty liberal incel

[@CeleryMan666]

@@BigReptileCrew most people barely got through highschool and are easily impressed by basic iamverysmart shit it's honestly both amazing and sadining how stupid d and gullible people are

[@reven-docta79]

The usefulness of something is determined by need and outcome

[@user-uc4hc9yc9n]

It's not about the fancy title(that I won't lie is not very fancy anymore)........ It's about who you are and who you want to be(the best version of yourself)... And how hard are you working to become said person... Not because you wanna flex... But because it fulfills you.

[@trulybengali]

This is why businessmen shouldn’t lecture on academics.

[@onlygoodperson]

yet, they are more successful

[@trulybengali]

@@onlygoodperson define success.

[@onlygoodperson]

@@trulybengali Money is success, simple.

[@trulybengali]

@@onlygoodperson Good for you.

[@onlygoodperson]

@@trulybengali thanks?

[@dorismccoy8563]

Really enjoy hearing Elon and what he says. Seems open, friendly, honest and genius! Happy he is here!

[@giftandeagledelacerda1279]

How many people working on his top spots you think only got a GED or diploma

[@sirreal2741]

this guy answers everything by saying yes and no simultaneously

[@manonamission2000]

the real world is ambiguous

[@glenntuazon4612]

To those u got confuse what he ment is that Delta Utility Model (DUM) is a multi-attribute decision model which is used to help designer making decisions when trade-offs exist in design tasks. The utility theory is applied to quantify preferences in the model. Delta is devoted to innovation and systematically developing new products and technologies, particularly those that are high-efficiency and energy-saving. Aiming to reduce global warming and ensure mankind's sustainable future with better value and performance, Delta is continuously enhancing our engineering capabilities and is committed to developing innovative technologies and solutions for a better tomorrow.

[@questionmark9619]

Thanks bro, but why do you know this?

[@BigTexGuitarz]

@@questionmark9619homie did a quick google search, found an article, paraphrased for the rest of us. Easy as that.

[@nickgibboni8469]

@@questionmark9619 Sounds a lot like a ChatGPT answer after the first half sentence with the typos😂

[@brexitgreens]

​@@nickgibboni8469 Keen eye! 🦅

[@joelwilliams8887]

How was that confusing? He explains what he means right after.

[@ZigKid3]

Elon out here rocking Boruto's jacket!

[@ichigo5779]

Elon grew up with a dad who was an engineer and owned his own plane. That is were Elon began his education. How Elon doesn't see that as a privilege and a big contribution to his success is beyond me.

[@rafewheadon1963]

Elons family owns diamond mines. he grew up a priviledged rich kid

[@americancitizen8478]

@ichigo5779 how is that beyond you? He’s never had to scrape by or had his power shut off in the middle of the winter with no heat, never been evicted for not paying rent, etc….so it’s only natural to assume he has no clue what it’s like in those situations. Same with Trump who I love! Trump wouldn’t have the slightest idea of what low income people really struggle with on a daily basis. I voted for him, not because he knows how the little man feels, but instead because he was true and has a passion and love for God and country!

[@mac2312]

Elon Musk is a very out of touch strange man, but doesn't mean he's not a hard working trail blazer

[@gaijinhakase1575]

I have a PhD in materials science, and you can’t do my job without it. Actually, even with a PhD you can barely scratch the surface. So it depends.

[@rianczer]

scratching the surface of materials science, eh?

[@gaijinhakase1575]

@@rianczer yep

[@frankchen4229]

​@@rianczer ha!

[@adriangabrielgramada1016]

Such a beautiful equation 🌞😁😇 Simple and 100% to the point ❤️

[@georgelewis8831]

As an all-in Tesla investor I think there is a very interesting EV company that is now ramping manufacturing. It offers a car, truck and van that like the new cybertruck has drive-by-wire technology! Amazingly you can buy the stock for only 24 cents a share! Imagine buying Tesla when it launched! Don’t miss out!They’re just now ramping up production! The stock is GOEV! I just put a $1000 stock order with betting $. I know it’s a long-shot, but the recent pivot to sell B2B to fleet buyers such as Amazon as delivery vans give it a unique niche Tesla hasn’t addressed yet

[@anleekij]

Dudes looking like a Yugoslavian gangster from the 90's

[@D.U.D.E-]

Unironically this is the smartest thing I've heard him say. And no, that's not me calling him dumb or anything. It is the most impressive thing I've heard him say.

[@coffeedonutsandhomer653]

No use for a PHD in an emerald mine or on a TSLA production line. 😬

[@shenamariscal6200]

He uses robots for that

[@ytcmtr4917]

Those tools and processes won't be there in the first place, if academics hadn't contributed to those!

[@BimmerWon]

You don’t need a degree to do a job but you do need a degree to get a job because that’s just how the game works.

[@boyar3033]

One important lesson: What works for someone else, may not work for you as well. If someone got rich without college, bravo for him. But that may not work for yourself.

[@rahuldeb4864]

Dude simple plugs out every emotional aspect a human is capable of upholding!

[@williamallison417]

Sounds like you got a phd and can’t do much with it

[@Zetunez]

He is on the autistic spectrum after all.

[@MrAnubhabd]

Well rounded sophisticated human beings usually do that. Emotion is a thing of the uneducated.