Problematic Roller Coasters - Steel Vengeance - Cedar Point's Beautiful Headache

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ElToroRyan

ElToroRyan

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Steel Vengeance will most likely go down in history as one of the most unreal roller coasters ever built. When Cedar Point made the decision to transform Mean Streak, the park gave Rocky Mountain Construction all the money in the world and told them to "go wild." And the park certainly got the unimaginable coaster they hoped for, along with quite the headache of a roller coaster to maintain and operate.
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00:00 - Intro
01:29 - Roller Coaster Wars
03:52 - Mean Streak
06:12 - Mean Streak's Block Zones & Capacity
09:34 - Mean Streak's Problems & Modifications
15:08 - Out With the Old and In With the New
20:40 - The New Trains
23:04 - The Mid-Course Brake Run
28:10 - The Collision
31:54 - Final Brake Run Makeover
35:19 - Structural Problems
40:28 - Three Train Operations
41:13 - Cell Phones
43:59 - Block Brake
45:14 - Things Have Improved
51:12 - Go Ride Steel Vengeance
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@willwest-toebe6287
@willwest-toebe6287 Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up El Toro Ryan just posted
@captainmaerd
@captainmaerd Жыл бұрын
Babe are you okay? You’ve hardly touched your block zones!
@thicccarteronxbox9930
@thicccarteronxbox9930 Жыл бұрын
@@captainmaerd me flirting,” Can I trim brake this high capacity giga coaster in your little block zone?”
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
You guys are the best 😂😂
@blackhawks81H
@blackhawks81H Жыл бұрын
@@ElToroRyan Have you seen Boondock Saints? When this happens. I immediately imagine the scene of Rocco running into the apartment, in a panic yelling "PACK YOUR SHIT! PACK YOUR SHIT!" stuffing pots and pans and the toaster into his luggage in his panic... Then when the guys are trying to ask him what's going on, he just continues to scream and as he's putting the clothing iron into his bag he holds it up and yells "YOU START GETTING EXCITED MOTHERFUCKERS!"
@Jars_of_Wiis
@Jars_of_Wiis Жыл бұрын
Hey babe are you a block check? Because you just stopped me in my tracks
@thomasxl200
@thomasxl200 Жыл бұрын
I love watching the superstructure bend and flex as it goes by. You can tell that RMC really pushed the supports to its limit, for better and worse. If I weren't an engineer myself it would probably freak me out.
@MarsJenkar
@MarsJenkar Жыл бұрын
It's flexing, but it's nowhere near as bad as what the Rattler had later in its life before it got converted to Iron Rattler.
@theforeverpuddle8754
@theforeverpuddle8754 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well.
@orlandosmith1242
@orlandosmith1242 Жыл бұрын
i remember the first time i rode it, i think last year, a guy in front of me was standing in line with his mom and she couldnt stop talking about it moving and flexing and eventually convinced him out of the line.
@visionist7
@visionist7 Жыл бұрын
@@orlandosmith1242 rekt by his own mother
@TommyB1004
@TommyB1004 Жыл бұрын
I've stood in line next to novice riders who start freaking out about the swaying
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Жыл бұрын
Cedar Fair: "The coaster we bought from you isn't meeting expectations." Intamin: "We're sorry to hear that. Here's a discount voucher for your next purchase." RMC: _Scrambles to fix every single issue with the ride_
@johnkelso3252
@johnkelso3252 Жыл бұрын
Man, I hope CF isn't done with RMC. I don't think they are, but you never know with company politics.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Жыл бұрын
@aidanrgagalski Ok, as awesome as that is (assuming they actually did that), that sounds like part of the reason they went bankrupt.
@Penncentral-vr6mg
@Penncentral-vr6mg Жыл бұрын
I wonder what RMC could do if they got there hands on Gemini
@DynamyteTV
@DynamyteTV Жыл бұрын
@idkwhattoputhere I don't know man, Imagine if they moved the midway to border the lake and swoop behind dragster, we could now use the old midway plus pipe scream to create a plot that is roughly the same size as SteVe. I trust RMC over anyone with a small plot like that
@probablylinguini
@probablylinguini Жыл бұрын
@@DynamyteTV Gemini is already a hybrid it just happens to have wood supports
@ThirdEyePerspective1111
@ThirdEyePerspective1111 11 ай бұрын
There's not a single bad thing I could possibly say about this ride. It is nothing less than absolutely phenomenal from start to finish. As long as it is, there's not a single dull moment the whole time.
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 8 ай бұрын
I agree. This coaster is pretty much perfect in every way.
@FunkAndFluff
@FunkAndFluff Жыл бұрын
51:13 "I think I got a little carried away with this one." If getting carried away results in incredibly insightful material like this, please get as carried away as you want, Ryan. It shows how much you trimmed the fluff and unnecessary details even in a script this long. It's fine and even encouraged to say a lot when there's a lot worth saying!
@coolboss999
@coolboss999 Жыл бұрын
51:13 U messed up the time!
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Жыл бұрын
His physics and engineering knowledge to apply it to roller coasters is so nice to hear~~
@ryanwilliams4223
@ryanwilliams4223 Жыл бұрын
Thanks ill keep getting carried away next time then.
@sbeve7445
@sbeve7445 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely didn't even know it was a hour long video before it was over lol
@gus1138
@gus1138 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your assessment of this video. ElToroRyan, I was surprised when you announced the length of this video. It went by in what I thought was half the time you said. I didn't check the time when I started watching, because the subject matter was of such interest to me that time didn't matter. So, thanks for giving me all this information on my favorite coaster, even though I haven't ridden it yet, when I eventually do get my ride on it, I'm sure it will fulfill all that I've imagined it to be.
@ChiefBlueScreen
@ChiefBlueScreen Жыл бұрын
It's so weird to see a train hit brakes on your channel, especially Mean Streak, without the Mean Streak trim sound
@Llb77hsj777
@Llb77hsj777 Жыл бұрын
kachunk kachunk
@patrickfraleyjr2819
@patrickfraleyjr2819 Жыл бұрын
They’re still on episodes of his Coaster Idiots series
@Llb77hsj777
@Llb77hsj777 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickfraleyjr2819 yep
@WolfRaging95
@WolfRaging95 Жыл бұрын
@@Llb77hsj777 English translation is hilarious on your comment. 😂 It translates to “let it be let it be.”
@Llb77hsj777
@Llb77hsj777 Жыл бұрын
@@WolfRaging95 lolol
@JamesonThomas24
@JamesonThomas24 Жыл бұрын
If you got “carried away” with this video, please get “carried away” on future problematic coasters, because I got “carried away” and forgot to work for 50 minutes as I watched this.
@PolyRocketMatt
@PolyRocketMatt Жыл бұрын
Honestly at the end of the video the first thought was: "the 50 minutes are over already?". Even if this is your longest video, you manage to keep the video interesting to watch! Thanks for this amazing mini-documentary about one of RMC's finest creations :D
@patrickmattin9609
@patrickmattin9609 Жыл бұрын
Wait this is a 50 minute video?
@halfalivepogostick
@halfalivepogostick Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmattin9609 nah man is 5 minutes
@craigperry3779
@craigperry3779 Жыл бұрын
In my industry every time you try to build something that doesn't exist there are headaches. It is expected and the cost of being on the bleeding edge. I'm sure CP understands this and knew building the first 200+ ft hybrid coaster wasn't going to be easy.
@visionist7
@visionist7 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a hybrid giga's teething
@NickyD
@NickyD Жыл бұрын
they didnt learn from TTD issues this ride is why rmc and Cf dont work together now
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd Жыл бұрын
@@NickyD clearly they still work together since RMC carpenters work on Steel Vengence regularly
@AceAviations2
@AceAviations2 Жыл бұрын
@@NickyD honestly in comparison to the MANY issues that Intamin gave Cedar Fair in the past (Dragster, Maverick, Shoot the Rapids, I305, Volcano), these aren't that bad and a lot 0f them have been worked out. They knew the risks that a project of this caliber would have and that there were likely going to be issues, they still have to look at the success that SV and TT brought them despite the issues. To end things with RMC this early would be a bad idea given that RMC has a FAR better track record with reliability than Intamin with the only real major blemish being Lightning Rod.
@JJJJ-he8bz
@JJJJ-he8bz Жыл бұрын
@@visionist7 they would use a steel structure
@Metal_Groove45
@Metal_Groove45 Жыл бұрын
This ride is an absolute masterpiece.....as long as you don't get stapled!
@shaneh3109
@shaneh3109 Жыл бұрын
Stapled? What does that mean?
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd Жыл бұрын
@@shaneh3109 It means that they press the lapbar down on a rider as far as it can go, even if it's not necessary by ride safety standards. The tighter the lapbar, the more it will absorb all the airtime and lateral forces, passing them on to you the rider since your body won't move like it's intended to. It can really ruin a ride experience.
@lastone032085
@lastone032085 Жыл бұрын
oh they love stapling you on twisted timbers. I'll be green on the screen and they push the bar down further anyway. I hate that. it's usually the women operators that do it thinking they are being extra safe. ugh.
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd Жыл бұрын
@@lastone032085 I got stapled on Banshee at Kings Island. Not fun.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis Жыл бұрын
My GF hates it cause she got stapled when we went. It'll be difficult to get her to ride it again.
@masonfeagan8678
@masonfeagan8678 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for producing informational, high-quality media to the public!
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the content and thank you so much for the super thanks!!
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I rarely ever see these, inspires me to do one
@tylerkane4761
@tylerkane4761 Жыл бұрын
How do you donate?
@rawrizord
@rawrizord Жыл бұрын
@@tylerkane4761 should be a "donate" button under the video near share/like/etc.
@thedemonrebal2870
@thedemonrebal2870 10 ай бұрын
45:51
@Caliman1107
@Caliman1107 Жыл бұрын
This ride is incredible. Was shocked by the metal detectors, but made the ride experience unforgetable. Took my 70yo mother on this ride for her birthday 😃
@bradcatoe
@bradcatoe 9 ай бұрын
That would be the best 70th birthday present of all time. I will NEVER forget the first time I rode this. Spectacular!
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 7 ай бұрын
metal detectors?
@michelle2671
@michelle2671 3 ай бұрын
Ok, that’s super rad that a 70 yr old wants to ride SteVe. I’m almost 47 and I’m pretty sure I’ve done my last ride on The Beast - I can’t absorb the shock anymore!
@Netsuko
@Netsuko Жыл бұрын
Steel Vengeance's design and layout is absolutely nuts. I am amazed the underlying wooden structure can deal with the crazy forces. The footage really shows the crazy amount of flexing and bending when the train flies through the track.
@benjaminfriedman9107
@benjaminfriedman9107 Жыл бұрын
Skyrush would be perfect for this series, it was experimental it's well like by a lot, and it has had its fair share of issues
@Scxrpionz
@Scxrpionz Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!!
@thomasxl200
@thomasxl200 Жыл бұрын
Which still exist today... It's kinda insane that it still has the original restraints.
@m1lk0meda
@m1lk0meda Жыл бұрын
Thighcrush is a wonderful coaster, as long as you sit as forward as possible from the back of the seat and the restraint is positioned on your waist
@MyLifeAsBrandon
@MyLifeAsBrandon Жыл бұрын
If Skyrush would replace those damn trains I’d be happy more. Last time I rode it, I nearly caught myself whipping violently on one of the turns and felt like I KILLED my neck from it and not to mention that same ride my thighs getting caught so tight after the main drop that over the airtime hills I literally was screaming in agony it hurt that bad and finally that same ride the rattle was so bad when I got back to the brake run my head hurt so badly. Those three things on literally one time on the ride made me say enough. I ended up riding CandyMonium the rest of the day instead as that coaster is glossy smooth and graceful. Love those airtime hills on Skyrush but I can’t enjoy them with those trains, they’re TERRIBLE!
@markkalzer907
@markkalzer907 Жыл бұрын
Oh there's got to be TONS of juicy info about that one! I love that somewhere between opening year and today they added a courtesy click release in the final break run just to ease the suffering! It was a ride that truly surprised me as the renderings and POV videos at the time couldn't do any of it justice in conveying exactly what the ride experience was.
@scrunkge
@scrunkge Ай бұрын
Cedar Point refusing to say they're rebuilding the ride with the obvious construction is a pretty funny marketing move. Probably built way more hype for the ride.
@volcom9368
@volcom9368 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the work you must’ve put into this. A 50min video is no small feat and to keep it entertaining the whole time is so impressive! Already looking forward to the next one.
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the Super Thanks!!
@Howlingburd19
@Howlingburd19 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine just how much effort you put into making these Problematic Coasters videos. They’re always a 10/10… just like Steel Vengeance!
@dustinhenderson7507
@dustinhenderson7507 Жыл бұрын
Before finding your channel the only coster I had ridden was one at Disney Land. Now I have been to several rollercoaster parks and Steel Vengeance is near the top of my list! Thank you for the inspiration to try something new.
@C3mvp
@C3mvp Жыл бұрын
I was just at CP last week, and operations was flying. I had gone last year and didn't remember them dispatching those trains so quick. I was super impressed with how smooth the operators were working. It felt like the SteVe line just constantly moving because of how quickly they were dispatching. Maverick on the otherhand... that was having a rough day. Was down much of the day and when it was open, it was operating at a snail's pace with constant double stacking (or quad stacking in Mav's case) of the trains.
@miotch8225
@miotch8225 Жыл бұрын
I've been to CP a bunch times and that was the first thing I noticed compared to my home park, Canada's Wonderland. With 3 trains on many coasters, the line is always moving. Even if it was an hour+ wait, it didn't always feel like it because we're constantly moving up the line. Gives you the feeling like we were progressing lol. Unfortunately maverick (and Dragster) don't seem to have the same benefit. I've actually left the line on maverick because slow moving line and multiple shut downs
@munchy22
@munchy22 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been going to CP for years, and the maverick has always had one of the longest wait times no matter when i went.
@C3mvp
@C3mvp Жыл бұрын
@@munchy22 So i always fast pass at CP beacuse I only go at most once in a year. Last year Maverick was a walk on with fast pass. This year it was like 30-40 min wait. Both trips were on weekends, late summer, similar weather. Admittely, CP crowds may have been down last year and this was also like right after TTD accident too.
@ayanadixon4763
@ayanadixon4763 Жыл бұрын
@@munchy22 You need to go the Wednesday or Thursday after most of Ohio's schools start. Just about every coaster is a walk-on, and we got to ride SV twice without needing Fast Pass.
@gocelotspice5766
@gocelotspice5766 Жыл бұрын
The maverick was a huge disappointment to me, we had to wait so long and it wasn’t all that.
@jackattack5928
@jackattack5928 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you Ryan for putting force diagrams and magnetic field diagrams in a 52 minute roller coaster video. Lean into the engineering
@freyak5401
@freyak5401 Жыл бұрын
I really think this coaster is such a success story. From a problematic wooden coaster in the back of the park to a world class ride runnining in tip top shape. I rode it back in 2018 and could really see all these issues coming together. It's so cool to see how they addressed each one, even amidst the craziness that was the last few years
@sitfish1113
@sitfish1113 9 ай бұрын
I went on steel vengeance last summer and it became my favorite coaster instantly. Theres never a dull moment and the absolute chaos of flying around inside the wooden structure feels amazing. Absolutely worth the 2 hour wait
@Melorum
@Melorum Жыл бұрын
The valleying crap was an absolute nightmare leading up to media day 2018. We valleyed 4 times when we were there and then it happened at least once more when IOE was cycling it overnight. Also the crash was entirely the fault of the company that built the original mag brakes which was not RMC, I wont say more than that. Said company went bankrupt (or at least that's what the RMC folks on site gossiped to us). Also I'm glad you mentioned trains getting stuck in the brake run in the rain because now that I dont work there I will gladly admit that I went out there to push trains myself LOL As for the trims in addition to the structure there's also a target speed that it tries to get trains to hit the final brake run. I think it's about 37mph but I might be wrong, it was years ago
@beccab8015
@beccab8015 Жыл бұрын
Back row at night on SV is still the most intense coaster ride I've ever had. You can't tell which way is up or where you're going cuz it's so dark & the layout is non-stop elements. Just an amazing ride.
@lauramarienantovech262
@lauramarienantovech262 8 ай бұрын
Hallow weekends! ❤
@heartstringsbylisa
@heartstringsbylisa 7 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree! I'm making my last trip this seasons in a few weeks for the sole purpose of a dark ride on Steel Vengeance.
@samuelzackrisson8865
@samuelzackrisson8865 Жыл бұрын
even if i haven't ridden it i can tell you that steel vengence truly is one of the roller coasters ever bulit
@coasterconquistador2517
@coasterconquistador2517 Жыл бұрын
I love this series. Steel Vengeance is my number one overall, and I’ve been on Lightning Rod and Velocicoaster. I still have yet to get on Iron Gwazi, so I’m interested to see how they compare.
@LeafHasLeft
@LeafHasLeft Жыл бұрын
been on both with me actually riding SteVe after IG but I will give the edge to IG. Its just so much more of a hard hitter. I think I found myself a little underwhelmed with SV when I was hyped for it and ready to be one of the few to ride it after IG.
@coasterconquistador2517
@coasterconquistador2517 Жыл бұрын
@@LeafHasLeft I completely understand. When I first got went on Steve I was a bit underwhelmed but it has grown on me quite a bit. It’s awesome that you’ve been on both.
@matthenekk
@matthenekk Жыл бұрын
Time Traveler beats it for me in a much different way. You need to try that one too one day.
@LeafHasLeft
@LeafHasLeft Жыл бұрын
@@matthenekk I've wanted to ride one of Mack's xtreme spinning coasters
@coasterconquistador2517
@coasterconquistador2517 Жыл бұрын
Same. Time Traveller and Ride to Happiness both look awesome. I completely understand why someone may prefer them to an RMC.
@johnepants
@johnepants Жыл бұрын
I remember visiting in the summer of 2016 and seeing the markings on the footers before any announcement of the ride closure was made. The excitement of knowing something big was about to happen but not sure what it would be yet was huge
@OriginalJoe
@OriginalJoe Жыл бұрын
A true 2-for-1 - block zone diagrams of Mean Streak and Steel Vengeance! Seriously - huge amounts of great information. Thanks for doing this one.
@bradarmstrong6392
@bradarmstrong6392 Жыл бұрын
I was only disappointed he didn't go through the block zone speech twice.
@BUEAU
@BUEAU Жыл бұрын
I rode Steevie at his debut in spring 2018 and the mid course break run... Loved it. Gives you 5 seconds to catch your breath while laughing your ass off just before you get plunged into absolute madness for the second inning. Alan Schulke and RMC engineering genius. Best roller coaster ever.
@taitondeboer366
@taitondeboer366 Жыл бұрын
As an ex employee that use to operate this ride, our dispatch times were 40 seconds. It’s extremely difficult especially when guests are not paying attention. We only say “do not pull down the orange lap bar” about eight times every cycle. Another flaw with the ride that nobody knows except for the operators is the transfer table. Steel Vengeance uses the same transfer table that mean streak used. The pins on either side of the track fail to lock on a daily basis causing downtime when we have to transfer off/on a train. Interesting fact, all 3 trains are different even past the colors and names. Chess (the gold train) has 2 steel balls under the dome while the other 2 trains have the rods connecting it. Just something to notice on your next visit. Notice I said ex employee. If a phone makes it to the platform, it is a fireable offense. Metal detection isn’t always 100% accurate especially when the wands we use are sometimes defective. As a first year operator, this was not mentioned in the training. There are 11 signs outside and in the queue saying “no loose articles allowed. Please place EVERYTHING into a FREE locker in line. The entrance employee repeats no bags in line over and over again but people still fail to listen. It’s frustrating. As a PSA, please just follow the directions. It makes our job and operations faster meaning shorter lines and happy employees.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis Жыл бұрын
You were fired cause somebody got a phone past the metal detectors? How are you supposed to catch that, and how did they end up getting caught?
@taitondeboer366
@taitondeboer366 Жыл бұрын
@@ToomanyFrancis The guest had their phone tucked behind a big belt buckle. We can’t do pat downs so how was I supposed to check? The guest pulled out their phone on the platform and my supervisor traced it back to my metal detector.
@robertoXCX
@robertoXCX Жыл бұрын
So you can't even have your phone on your person, securely zipped into a pants pocket on this ride?
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis Жыл бұрын
@@taitondeboer366 Are you supposed to ask people to remove belts or something? Seems bizarre to blame the ops for that.
@taitondeboer366
@taitondeboer366 Жыл бұрын
The rule was if it couldn’t flutter like a piece of paper you couldn’t have it with you even with Velcro, zippers, or buttons
@bryngrey11
@bryngrey11 Жыл бұрын
I've never been happier about having waited until 2021 to ride SV. It's so interesting to hear all of this background info and how hard they've worked to maintain and improve the efficiency of the attraction.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you covered the swaying of the structure. I've seen that in many of your videos and I always wondered about the implications of that swaying!
@rcmaster207
@rcmaster207 Жыл бұрын
You surprise me with every video. These problematic roller coasters videos are so in depth and the story is extremely well told. Awesome stuff. Keep it up my dude!
@Camcod10
@Camcod10 Жыл бұрын
ryan really just treating us with the block zone spiel 6 mins in…
@coaster420
@coaster420 Жыл бұрын
Masterclass work. This is some unrivaled territory and I'm all here for it. Congrats on genuinely being the best at your craft, Ryan. I can't imagine anyone would disagree with me.
@ckilbarger01
@ckilbarger01 Жыл бұрын
I'm a high school teacher in Ohio. There was a group going on a big reward field trip to Cedar Point and I had a chance to use some of my knowledge from this video when talking about why so many rides in Cedar Point don't have personal possession bins! I felt very smart that day!
@scottboyer2391
@scottboyer2391 Жыл бұрын
Continue to get "carried away" in the future with this series. Stellar work.
@Light-qx8iq
@Light-qx8iq Жыл бұрын
This video informed me that the first time I ever rode the Mean Streak was actually in it's last year of operation, 2016. I'm typically fearful of larger roller coasters but this one was so fun for my friends and I that I waited in line to ride it twice. A coaster that made me like more impressive coasters. It's kind of crazy to hear about how many changes it's had over the years that have made it better/worse, but it also really satisfies me that even when it was on its last legs it was still a really memorable and fun coaster. Now I gotta go back to ride Steel Vengeance
@smuella
@smuella Жыл бұрын
That‘s a fun story and it‘s nice to hear that Mean Streak was memorable for you because it was one of your fist larger coasters, because most people familiar with bigger coasters like myself found it to be incredibly boring and pointless towards the end of its life. Great to hear it was not lost on everyone :)
@AttractionSource
@AttractionSource Жыл бұрын
May as well be a full blown documentary. GREAT job Ryan!
@wadeheerboth3708
@wadeheerboth3708 Жыл бұрын
Rode this for the first time during closing week at CP this year. The attendant let us go back in line after we rode it and exited the first time, even though it was a minute or two past midnight (closing time). After we got through the line again, the ride-ops let us do a re-ride since nobody else was in line after us. My girlfriend and I still talk about how amazing that was (both letting us in line post closing time, and letting us do a re-ride). May have been a small gesture to them, but it was something they really didn't have to do, and it made our first CP experience even more amazing than it already was.
@bilderkin4799
@bilderkin4799 Жыл бұрын
one thing these videos always miss is for some reason he never tells what a block zone is. I mean would it be that difficult to tell us.
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
my bad! I always forget!
@lundthedoggaming8716
@lundthedoggaming8716 Жыл бұрын
Maybe we could have an entire video on it?
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Жыл бұрын
He does explain it it this video and all the other problematic roller coaster videos as well. It is simply a section of track that only one train can occupy at a time and features a way to prevent a train from rolling into the next block zone. A coaster must have at least one more block zone than the number of trains it runs.
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
@@bearclaw5115 it’s a what?
@JakeBrickmobile
@JakeBrickmobile Жыл бұрын
@@ElToroRyan for those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of ride that only one train my occupy. At the END of a block zone is a method to stop a train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another.
@mulinhuan8410
@mulinhuan8410 Жыл бұрын
Yay another great PRC episode! Just finished watching and it's just as awesome as the ride itself! Thanks for using my footage Ryan! I definitely miss the days when Vengeance was an early entry attraction though, that means everyone runs to it while I marathon Millennium with the magic gate open ;)
@ElToroRyan
@ElToroRyan Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Hershey! Lol I’ll always love that nickname. And thanks for letting me use your amazing footage!
@visionist7
@visionist7 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if PRC was a coaster manufacturer
@maddierose7938
@maddierose7938 Жыл бұрын
Your attention to detail on roller coasters is absolutely amazing. I have learned so much watching these videos and it gives me more appreciation for them. The amount of research you do is just surprising. You notice things that no one else does. I very much enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work!!
@darrenrice8742
@darrenrice8742 Жыл бұрын
The knowledge, flow, and attention to detail is on another level. Kept my attention the whole time. Well done Ryan. Thank you. My wife and I rode this ride the first summer it came out in 1991. It was awesome. When we were in line we could see the way it moves and shakes. My wife was concered and a carpenter near us heard her (and I quote) said "If it dont shake, it will break." :) On a side note we went back 2 years later to ride it again and it beat the shit out of us. We never rode it again. Good to see they are doing their best to keep it going, because it was fun.
@armandtanguay5602
@armandtanguay5602 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this series
@ha420weednumber
@ha420weednumber Жыл бұрын
Loved the history of Mean Streak in this video. I wasn't expecting it to be so in-depth.
@teamfgbc5968
@teamfgbc5968 Жыл бұрын
Wow. First time finding this channel and it’s a gem. I don’t know if I’ll be able to ride many coasters anymore due to surgeries but this is helping me miss it less and indulging my nerd side. Thank you so much, and incredibly incredibly well done!!
@natechenry
@natechenry Жыл бұрын
Rode this twice this past Friday, my first time at cedar point. I passed out 6 times the first time. However that’s why I love rides like this, the intensity, the adrenaline. I went on it again without passing Out but still in shock! I was scared at first of these rides but as I began with Gatekeeper which is one of the smoothest rides there imo, I realized how much I enjoyed these rides no matter the height. I would say Steel Vengeance, Millennium Force, Maverick are the top 3, gatekeeper is awesome for those wanting to work their way up to the bigger rides because that’s my tip. Start out with the smaller rides. The worst part of the rides and the best is the beginning of them, the drop but if you can keep your eyes open at the drop you’re good for the whole thing. It’s fun.
@jricedrums
@jricedrums Жыл бұрын
This video is amazing! I learned so much! I’m glad the capacity has gotten better over the years! The Problematic Coaster series is the best coaster content on KZbin!
@MrPopsfreshnmyer
@MrPopsfreshnmyer Жыл бұрын
Appreciation and respect for all of the work you put into making this, Ryan.
@jennalotocki5518
@jennalotocki5518 Жыл бұрын
I could talk about this ride for hours. I feel very lucky to have ridden steel vengeance more than 20 times and WOW this ride is truly amazing. The ride time, the insane airtime, the speed, the violence, I cannot get enough. Hands down best ride is a night ride back row, this ride tries to get ride of you fr. I was truly able to appreciate how insane it is that this rollercoaster exists this year now that I am an enthusiast. Cedar point did not have to make steel vengeance as insane as it is, but they did anyways!
@reiemg
@reiemg Жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE video Ryan, truly amazed to see the growth this channel has seen over the past couple years. The work you put into this channel has always wowed me. I've been here since around 10k. Keep up the amazing work man.
@will3057
@will3057 Жыл бұрын
OMG EL TORO RYAN POSTED A NEW PROBLEMATIC COASTERS VIDEO MY BOREDOM IS CURED
@itsrobloxhere
@itsrobloxhere Жыл бұрын
truly the most coaster of all time, i love when it went "it's steel vengeancing time" and steel vengeances you. out of a scale of 1 to 10, i would give it one of those numbers.
@Celatra
@Celatra Жыл бұрын
truly the most comment of all time
@JP-vk9iq
@JP-vk9iq Жыл бұрын
This problematic roller coaster series is truly something special. Thanks for all the time and research you put into these videos. Really, just amazing.
@Bothomas-vm5hz
@Bothomas-vm5hz Жыл бұрын
your videos are way better than shows on discovery channel i really like your documentaries you make and they are easy to understand also your videos are very educational to people with little to no knowledge in physics and roller coaster fundamental aspects. definitely a big thumbs up on your channel
@blakebetsworth9869
@blakebetsworth9869 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, these are my favorite videos that you do. Probably because I'm a structural engineer, so I like any good engineering case study, but one's about roller coasters? Perfection! I had no idea SteVe had these issues in its first few years, that really explains why CF has been reluctant to work with them ever since. Hopefully CF and RMC patch things up in the near future.
@TheAverageSavage1021
@TheAverageSavage1021 Жыл бұрын
This is the best ride I’ve ever been on. My favorite ride in the park. The first year it opened I had no idea what to expect and it made the 4 hour wait so worth it!
@godzillaridergamer7595
@godzillaridergamer7595 4 ай бұрын
I actually really like how the company keeps the coaster's original names, but with a slight twist. Absolutely loved riding steel vengeance when we went to cedar point
@rhysg9722
@rhysg9722 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you got carried away with this one at all. Just like Steel Vengeance, this video had good pacing and plenty of fun twists. I don't even ride roller coasters (haha I cried on The Grizzly as a kid and have stayed away since then), but I find your content to be super enjoyable and engaging no matter if it nears an hour long or is short and sweet. Keep doing what you're doing, my guy 😁
@abysscuber3923
@abysscuber3923 Жыл бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOO PROBLEMATIC COASTERS
@theunhappygamer8192
@theunhappygamer8192 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these kind of videos. I'm enrolling into school next spring to become a mechanical engineer so I can design coasters. Your videos are very informative and talk about all failures a ride has had. I hope you keep these up cause they're a great watch!
@robertkuhn5461
@robertkuhn5461 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow engineer, I absolutely love your breakdowns and I think this was the best one yet. Your videos really do provide amazing insight into the inner workings of these rides, and are so different than any other coaster channel. Looking forward to the next one!
@minerva9843
@minerva9843 Жыл бұрын
I have been visiting CP since the early 90's. Mean Streak was always known as a headache inducer. I only rode it once in 94 knowing I would only ride it once. It was terrible. Its names, both former and current, are incredibly accurate.
@nicholasfield6127
@nicholasfield6127 Жыл бұрын
I loved mean steak and rode it almost every day when I worked there in 2013
@neilsmith9066
@neilsmith9066 Жыл бұрын
It had its moments especially for us going since the 80s!
@BluesCoasters
@BluesCoasters Жыл бұрын
Another incredible one by Ryan! I would love to see one on Lightning Rod.
@Zrj19
@Zrj19 Жыл бұрын
This video is honestly fantastic, I gotta give it to ya ElToroRyan. I thought I knew everything about Steel Vengeance but you just proved me wrong. Honestly, this is one of the best videos in the coaster community and hats off to u dude!
@oilybohunk7
@oilybohunk7 Жыл бұрын
I've never laugh/screamed harder than on this ride. I was surprised at how good it was and loved every second.
@jonahzdonut4117
@jonahzdonut4117 Жыл бұрын
Bro I swear if he explains what a block zone one more time… but I’m joking great vid
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege Жыл бұрын
Not the Iron Poggers lagoon foggers reference.
@RanInt
@RanInt Жыл бұрын
I just recently visited cedar point and it was the best 2 days of my life. You got me into coasters and are solely responsible for the best time of my life. Thank you.
@Oli.V
@Oli.V Жыл бұрын
Lagoon in Utah has had free lockers outside most of their major coasters for as long as I can remember. They don’t have a no cellphone policy because most people end up putting them in the lockers anyway. It’s so nice and it’s surprising to me that this is a new concept in a lot of parks. It also means I know I can bring a back pack to the park and not have to worry about having a non-rider hold it or trying to stash it in some bushes.
@ryanmcdonnell5988
@ryanmcdonnell5988 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know my favorite coaster was very problematic
@JJJJ-he8bz
@JJJJ-he8bz Жыл бұрын
I know there had to be a downside to this coaster I’ve never seen 40 feet added to a coaster in this way that is some roller coaster tycoon stuff I wind shocked when it was announced at 200 feet. I remember standing in line looking at that structure thinking to myself I can’t believe this is freaking mean streak
@squillz8310
@squillz8310 Жыл бұрын
I haven't been to CP in a while, so I'm sure I'll feel the same way whenever I make it back lol
@indynugs
@indynugs Жыл бұрын
Dude. Great video! I watched it all. I’m amazed at you depth of knowledge and insider info you get. Really cool stuff, I never got the opportunity to work at a park on a coaster crew. So hearing about all the behind the scenes and off hour work done. And the continued steps and efforts RMC and Cedar Fair have done to improve the operations of SV is super cool! Lots of great details that you just don’t get from the censored or fluffed corporate PR updates. Keep up the good work!!!
@phlogchamp
@phlogchamp Жыл бұрын
Ryan this is one of your best; the technical analyses of incidents and operation, paired with the history of the attractions really combine to create an intriguing viewing experience. Well done on this video, and created in such a short time frame as well!
@SuperTomsee
@SuperTomsee 9 ай бұрын
Drink every time he says "roller coaster"
@renaynay1319
@renaynay1319 23 күн бұрын
I'd be fucked up in 10-15 minutes tops lmao
@jimkubak
@jimkubak Жыл бұрын
What's a block zone?
@nukacm
@nukacm Жыл бұрын
Not even a minute after the video posts lmfao
@gg2847
@gg2847 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure, I wish he would’ve included an in-depth explanation so we would know what he was referring to
@dakevin267
@dakevin267 Жыл бұрын
Some of these support problems still happen as on my last visit to cedar point i managed to see and take a video of a maintenance worker climbing the structure and fixing a loose board mid day. Great video, thanks for this amazing quality in all of your videos
@itskylelucas
@itskylelucas Жыл бұрын
Damn Ryan, you made a whole movie! I can’t believe how much you cover in this. Thanks for giving my all-time #1 such a great Problematic Roller Coasters episode 😍
@doobertscoobert
@doobertscoobert Жыл бұрын
The most problematic thing about Steel Vengeance is that it’s mid.
@brandonjeter7643
@brandonjeter7643 Жыл бұрын
Not really, but alrightie lmao
@NorthernRidesYaBoi
@NorthernRidesYaBoi Жыл бұрын
Wow! This was a journey! And definitely my favorite of this series so far. Absolutely fantastic in every way I can think of
@kikusama
@kikusama 7 ай бұрын
I've been to Cedar Point many many many times. There's multiple rides that require lockers for safety.
@Puffo__
@Puffo__ Жыл бұрын
This is legitimately one of the best roller coaster videos I've ever watched, amazing job once again Ryan!
@angelaparodo687
@angelaparodo687 29 күн бұрын
I love these videos! I learn a lot more about coasters that I love to ride! Thank you for the coaster education!
@UltraMagaFan
@UltraMagaFan Жыл бұрын
My old KZbin account got terminated and I forgot about this channel. I’m glad I found it again. I love these problematic coaster videos.
@finnrby
@finnrby Жыл бұрын
I barely noticed how long this video was. Very interesting and informative, I loved it!! Steel Vengeance is one of my favorites so I am very happy you uploaded one on it. Fantastic work as always
@briandesmond4153
@briandesmond4153 2 ай бұрын
I rode MeanStreak back in 2011, I got off,and had a Headache for the next Hour!! But it still was Cool!!
@peterbigblock
@peterbigblock 7 ай бұрын
Steel Vengeance is my favorite coaster, period. My first ride left me almost speechless. It is awesome!
@gpcoasters7824
@gpcoasters7824 Жыл бұрын
We truly appreciate the amount of time and research you pour into this series. Thorough and entertaining!
@bluerider0988
@bluerider0988 Жыл бұрын
The history and knowledge you have on the coasters is fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
@darlapurvis1439
@darlapurvis1439 9 ай бұрын
Loved every single word! THANK YOU!
@MechaMyth
@MechaMyth Жыл бұрын
I love how this is posted few days after i rode steel vengence for the first time. I absolutely loved it. Im sad i didnt ride it when i had a chance to before. Definitely a favorite that i have to ride everytime i go to the point. Great video!
@MixTuBOGirlBoY
@MixTuBOGirlBoY 11 ай бұрын
I love this series. Thanks man!
@RideAllNight5
@RideAllNight5 Жыл бұрын
One of your best vids. A true love letter to this problematic monster of a coaster. Even with all the problems it has had over five seasons, it’s still a masterpiece and CP knows that. Ridden this ride over 200 times, through every stage of new brakes, new phone policies, and 1,2,3 train operation. Still think 2018 was one of its best years of operation, as the ride crew was able to do so well to transition as the ride constantly causing so many problems. 2022 is also proving to be an awesome year was phenomenal 3 train ops, and I’m sure it’s only gonna get better!!
@TheMaddyjade
@TheMaddyjade Жыл бұрын
I do miss the music on Mean streak though. I got to ride Steel Vengeance for the first time 8/22/22 due to my awesome weight loss journey. Thanks for the content ElToro.
@davidwillard8908
@davidwillard8908 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for explaining all of the considerations that go into the ride. We live local. Went to the same winter preview and rode Steel Vengence twice at the passholder preview event. But we did t get back to it until this past weekend. Definitely an intense experience. Thanks for explaining all of the changes over the years.
@Handles508
@Handles508 5 ай бұрын
This is the only ride that has ever made me grab the bar. I have rode every coaster at Cedar Point many times. Even Valraven when sitting in the front car and hanging vertical over the first drop is no problem. As soon as I hit the first twist on Steel Vengeance the g-force was so great I couldnt help but to reach for the bar. It is an amazing roll coaster.
@nanosum1
@nanosum1 Жыл бұрын
Always love your Problematic Roller Coasters series Ryan. Hope that you've been doing well
@Nellyaa
@Nellyaa Жыл бұрын
That was such an exceptional video! I thoroughly enjoyed listening for the whole hour and time flew by! Hope to see more like this in the future! :)
@rickgabel365
@rickgabel365 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Love hearing all the history of this great ride!
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