This Roller Coaster Uses INSANE Electricity - Red Force at Ferrari Land

[@ElToroRyan]

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[@davefroman4700]

And even this can be powered by solar if we so choose.

[@cjvs1991]

@@davefroman4700 I'm confused, were you intending to respond to a different comment?

[@CZsWorld]

You're slowly ruining my fantasy of having my own Intamin Blitz at home.

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

3rd CZ world comment on coaster youtubers I also watch. love it.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

All you gotta do is build yourself a super capacitor. And she'll out a few million for Intamin, then a few million to your county government to smooth things over (this only works if you live in the middle of nowhere) and you got yourself Maverick right outside your bedroom window. I've thought about it, but the plans for the coaster always end up running through my barn, and the animals may take offense to that.

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

@@Spike-sk7ql LMAO bro I thought I was the only one wanting to buy maverick once cedar points gets bored of it (*spongebob transition voice* "Two thousand years laterrr"), but I guess there will be some bidding lol

[@Spike-sk7ql]

@@Sonic-gy7kq dude, it's already as good as mine😂 AND, I got the heartline roll already set up!

[@CoastersPX]

Aren't you a horror movie channel?

[@RipleySawzen]

To clarify for those unfamiliar, a watt serves as a unit of power. You may already be familiar with volts and amps, with volts representing the pressure of electricity flow through a wire, and amps denoting the rate or flow through an electrical wire. The multiplication of volts by amps results in watts. This has serious _block zone_ energy

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Agreeeeeed

[@acidalex420]

It’s giving watt zone 👁👄👁

[@Tahngarthor]

Just how much energy? do the math XD

[@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI]

Lolz….From memory the dudes is an engineer so I’m guessing a lot of his verbal communication could be summed up as “block zone energy”. ☺ ….to clarify, please make sure the Mc Nuggets go in the bag prior to the fries & cheeseburger.. Naturally the overall mass & weight for the fries & cheeseburger is greater than that of the Nuggets however, for those not aware the rectangle nugget box can distribute that load while simultaneously reinforcing the bags structural integrity. 😒 Ah-ha - $11.50, Drive through to the next window… *closes window with more apathy than usual*

[@KuyBurgOfficial]

I don’t know if Ryan watches sports, but he missed an opportunity for a “JJ Watt” joke

[@aaronscoasters]

Thought for sure we would not get a block zone lesson in this video. Took 27 minutes but I was proved wrong. Love it!!! 27:30 To be exact

[@lisapt6702]

As an electrical engineer, I loved the explanation of the power consumption! I tend to think of coasters, and other rides, in terms of their physics and mechanics. It is so interesting to see one in terms of the electrical system

[@mikethewhizz5085]

As a mechanical engineering student, I loved it too! I think the vast majority of rollercoasters out there use chain lifts powered by electric motors that seem pretty straightforward; not nearly as high a power output as a launch. Power can also be described in terms of kinetic energy, as the change in Velocity of an object over time. One watt is equal to one joule per second, and one joule is 1kg(m/s)^2. By the nature of the beast, a faster launch requires a greater power output, since speed is changing more rapidly over time than a lift hill motor, and so for lift hills there doesn't need to be a sophisticated storage system. Of course you may already know all of this.

[@mikethewhizz5085]

I'd highly recommend watching Steve Mould's video on Spintronics: it's a really cool model of electric circuits that equates electrical components to chains and sprockets!

[@CentralFloridaThrills]

It’s a good day when Ryan post a 30 minutes video

[@jiru331]

truly so

[@fancywhale1881]

it’s the best day

[@itsryno532]

Truly the best

[@elijahrock3914]

when i was a kid, i would read random world record books i found at the school library from like 2007 and whatever, random records that were rarely relevant. i remember being incredibly impressed by kingda ka, and thinking that it was the most impressive roller coaster ever built since it was the tallest. now that i am actually more knowledgeable about roller coasters, a ride that can go nearly as high and nearly as fast *every single time* is a *vastly* more astounding feat

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

it’s kinda crazy how much more complicated these rides are then they look and these videos make me appreciate that a lot

[@rubencalis5790]

i have had such a bad day today, but this video just made it so much better. Thanks !

[@ElToroRyan]

I’m glad I could help! Hope your day keeps getting better!

[@ItsParadise304]

The amount of power it uses blows my mind! I’ve always wondered what parks electricity bills look like. In particular rides with hydraulic launch

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Hydraulic launches probably use more electricity overall. Sure, the electric one peaks higher, but it's only for a few seconds.

[@BamaRailfan]

​@StormsparkPegasus yes. Hydraulic launched coasters use hydraulic accumulators. The hydraulic equivalent of an electrical capacitor. Motors have to drive pumps to pressurize those accumulators so there is even more energy loss. Unlike a capacitor you can't just hook power wires to an accumulator to pressurize it...well..you can...once..but don't recommend. 😁

[@danny.ray101]

I recently talked to an employee of a Break Dance ride about that. He said the eletricity consumption for the lights heavily outweights the one for putting the ride into motion. And btw, the red force should generate electricity with the brakes - meaning a lot of the energy for the the launch wouldn't be wasted. So the only thing which comes into my mind with really high power consumption for keeping a ride moving should be rafting rides.

[@nloughner2015]

​@@danny.ray101most coaster breaks dont contain regen. Saftey outweighs efficiency, and a lot of the magnetic break fins are purly passive means to convert motion into heat. They operate with a different methodology than elevators. I could see some regen being possible, but we are talking about forces and speeds where the losses to friction and air resistence are not negligable.

[@danny.ray101]

@@nloughner2015 thanks for the info, I had no idea and assumed similar principles as with electric cars.

[@JustinParksandRides]

Great lead into the promo ad once again Ryan 🤣

[@flohawkins1]

Great video this explains why the ride only opens 5pm-10pm!!!! When the main park is open 10am-10p

[@AVdE10000]

This is making me VERY curious about what the electricity solution for Falcon's Flight is gonna look like. I am extremely skeptical about the ride's operation cost

[@RyanS493]

I don’t think they are going to be sending the invoice to your attention for falcons flight. 😂 Besides this videos sole purpose is to teach us about block zones, right? Lol

[@butterpecanbrielle]

I used to think people were exaggerating about Kingda Ka. When I finally went to great adventure it was mind blowing how many times that ride shut down and reopened. Even more impressive that I managed to go 5x on it haha.

[@kestrel4294]

The Vessi commercial killed me😆😆😆. ElToro Ryan is adorable in his jacket and shoes 😁

[@ChristianCorom]

Great video, as always. 👌🏼 What is funny on this video is to see a lot of b-roll clips with some of the most famous celebrities of Spain riding Red Force. 😂

[@deadlylightningspirit4295]

Thanks for reminding me why I don’t want to be a electrical engineer

[@DaanBruins]

As a European, I'm so glad you use metric in your videos, most coast youtubers convert it in the subtitles only as a sort of footnote.

[@cbjueueiwyru7472]

"until the opening of top thrill 2 at cedar point" Cedar point: "alright we opened, now go ahead and shut it down for the rest of the season"

[@LMinett]

What a great, highly-detailed and informative video!

[@ninjapwnsatlyfe]

So what I'm hearing about the launch system is, they went from a complicated hydraulic method, to basicslly using military rail guns lol

[@S197Coyote]

I remember watching the making of velocicoaster, they talked about the capacitors and power required. Not in depth though, love the video! It’s crazy how much power these attractions require.

[@technoandrew]

Great video Ryan. I was particularly interested to see the 67% excess energy in the super caps compared to the theoretical energy needed for launch. Having worked on a regenerative braking system for a rail vehicle, I guess this excess may be because of voltage. As the capacitors discharge, the voltage in them will go down. At a certain point, the voltage would drop below the useable value required by the launch system, therefore the voltage needs to remain above this minimum required and would never drop down to zero. That’s only my theory though, I could be wrong!

[@parks.atelier]

Hot take: I prefer this over Ka. Rode them both in the last row, RF won in better restraint system and airtime in that little bunny hill at the end

[@MichaelRei99]

That is ridiculous! You must have some kind of bias against Great Adventure. Or you’ve never been there,

[@parks.atelier]

@MikeReally not at all! Toro and Nitro are both in my top 10, really liked GAdv, I just had a better and more fun experience at Red Force instead of Ka. But, as I said, it's a hot take, everyone who rode both can have an opinion 😅

[@Celatra]

Hot take: Any LSM > Any Hydraulic launch. Lsm's just produce a super satisfying sound and also its ability to launch a coaster from rolling makes it superior.

[@smuella]

It's better tech but the launch experience is just not as good.

[@Celatra]

@@smuella i disagree, it's better because it's more consistent

[@StormsparkPegasus]

This is the best layperson explanation of electric motors and power units I've seen. There is so much misunderstanding about this...I have a Tesla Model 3 myself, and the amount of misinformation about electric cars in particular out there is incredible. Granted, I don't really drive that much...but under normal situations (when I'm not taking a trip somewhere), my car gets charged off of a regular 120V outlet. My car has a 54kWh battery.

[@Tahngarthor]

Trickle chargers (lv1, 120v) can recharge about 5 miles per hour of charging. Is that really enough for you? if you substantially deplete the battery on a Tesla, it could take more than a day to charage off 120V. It's normally for emergency use.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

@@Tahngarthor It's enough for most people. The average person drives about 30 miles/day. In my case I don't even drive that much. My car charges for about 4 hours/day. My apartment complex and my work have 7kW chargers available (not in my garage though), and I have used them at times like after longer trips, but for daily use? Not needed.

[@Doctor_dispatch]

Good thing i saw this video, i learned something thanks Ryan

[@Sauci55on]

Nice to see some footage by EDBattraction in there, he’s a pretty big deal in the French coaster community and his vids are really cool, there’s one where he explores Toutatis with two mechanics, I recommend this if you want to get better at French 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷😁

[@SnowghostFilms]

Thanks for the motivation to get up this morning!

[@ParkVisions]

We absolutely love these type of vids Ryan seriously, learn a lot from you🙌🔥

[@etherealswordsman3214]

I'm impressed how long you went until you launched into the blockzone spiel. I was almost disappointed that we didn't get it, but there it was, right at the end there.

[@CoasterTopia]

Was lucky enough to ride Red Force this summer, by far the best launch Ive ever experienced and also the best ride at the entire resort ❤

[@ThrillsofColdplay]

I wonder if Top Thrill 2 will have a cool launch sound that would be a treat

[@BluesCoasters]

Waiting for a Lightning Rod problematic coasters video…

[@CatsnCoasters]

Nothing beats the sound of this beautiful launch!

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

PLEASE DO THIS FOR MR FREEZE/POLTEGIEST/JOKERS JINKS!!!! I was trying to do it myself with chatgpt but go nowhere. To find energy for each launch of a classic premier LSM launch.

[@drewcorry5056]

Absolutely Outstanding

[@gilbertceballos8674]

Amazing detailed video. Thank you.

[@the1barbarian781]

A good way to think about a joule of energy is one watt second. The amount of energy required to power one watt for one second

[@Netsuko]

The hydraulic launch system is absolute madness when it comes to complexity and upkeep.

[@whylifeis4]

It’s always amazing when you see a ElToroRyan Upload!

[@JoeD17]

One of my favourite coasters can’t wait for this

[@zachkelley1867]

I thought you were going to talk about how it’s rumored to be going away

[@themrwinston9570]

intamin LSM launches have always been my favorite. the smoothness of the acceleration and the ability to do multiple of those ultra smooth launches in one run for a coaster like cheetah hunt is just an unbeatable feeling.

[@xhelix_reapzx9723]

Ryan is literally my idol lol if I had to me any KZbinr it would be him. This is why I love the science part of roller coast. Ryan great job brother!

[@freundlichermensch7540]

I was lucky last year, when i was visiting port aventura, it was an empty slightly rainy day. and i had 0 min queue times. At that speed the rain drops feel insane, i understand why they provide goggles for the first row. Great coaster, imo the best ride in the parks.

[@ryryt8634]

I was surprised when there was no “problematic roller coasters” in the title, until I actually watched this video

[@chrisogrady28]

There's still a unique feeling to a hydraulic launch, arguably the worst intamin launch coaster in the world (Rita) is still amazing for the first few seconds before it becomes a monorail.

[@jzckvsn]

Red Force looks awesome for an Intamin. I’m surprised the LSMs can get that train up past 360 feet

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Intamin can do pretty much anything 😄😄😄

[@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters]

​@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan yes they can!!:)

[@Strutsss]

Including building a coaster going off a 600ft cliff up to 150mph. @@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan

[@Thefury325]

⁠only thing they can’t do is make most of their rides reliable 💀

[@Spike-sk7ql]

​@@Thefury325well when you're pushing the boundaries as much as they are, sometimes reliability takes a hit. They do learn with each installation, how to make the reliability better though. They are still the best manufacturer to call for the best thrill ride.

[@devdoesitbest6974]

See Cedar Fair, this is what would have happened if you used intamin for top thrill 2

[@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters]

I know!! CF please work with them again...

[@clarabirch123]

I am an engineer currently working in the energy industry. This is fascinating! Love all the detail about the battery storage tech

[@f1clipsps5]

These facts blew my mind! Love it when u post👍😃

[@ZMSaypol]

God I love these videos. Please never end this series

[@travispettipiece2331]

7:46 caught me off guard there 😂 thought you where going to tell me about the block zones. (By the way love your videos!!!)

[@scose]

would be interesting to use launch speed and train mass estimates to figure out overall energy efficiency

[@ElToroRyan]

I’d love to do that! Would just need more info on the ride and its trains

[@F7COASTERS]

If the brake fins are the problem with hydraulic coasters wouldn't be simpler to have static brake fins that only activate when the train passes or even staters with some brake fins like red force for new hydraulic launch coasters that would probably stop most breakdowns on kingda ka if only intamin can replace the break fins with something simpler the hydraulic launches aren't usually the part that breaks.

[@dannyj.246]

Love red force. I was there the 2nd day its opened (Saturday) and they were running 1 train 😂

[@CoasterObsessed]

I wonder how efficient it would be to make so the breaks generate back electricity from the train…

[@Rock4896]

I've always thought about that too! Would be a great optimization

[@ElToroRyan]

Regenerative braking in a coaster would be amazing!

[@nicoooooo8817]

If I'm not entirely wrong the Maurer XCar Freischütz in Germany has such a feature, it can recuperate 80% of the kinetic energy, but there's just few information about it unfortunately

[@nloughner2015]

I would suspect we could recapture some energy from the coaster, I think the engineering challenges would be substantantial though. Magnetic breaks dont touch the trains, so I dont think there is a failsafe way to being a train to a stop with regenerative breaking. If we extended the break run to have a regen section first, and the failsafe section second, theoratically, we could regain a decent chunk of the potential energy. There are a lot of losses between mechanical, electrical, and air resistence. My gut tells me 50% would be a happy result, but take that number with a grain of salt.

[@liljasere]

by the time its at the end of the ride most of the energy has been disapated you wouldnt get a huge amount back plus the extra complexaty added to the charging/capture system

[@chrisschnizer4395]

During two train operations why can’t the load station be programmed to load AND unload guests while the unload station is a waiting zone? Wouldn’t that be more efficient in this scenario?

[@ElToroRyan]

It would be much more efficient!

[@JeremyHamelink]

Once again, another incredible video!! Thanks, Ryan!

[@dreams2reality410]

Great video. Loved the content

[@peterwhite9546]

Yeah apparently at Great Adventure back in the day, when both sides of The Chiller would launch at the same time, it would sometimes cause power surges throughout the park and Jackson.

[@MrMatteNWk]

How does this compare to the issue of Chiller's dual track launches early in its life?

[@emmata98]

17:40 don't forget, that you could use the kinetic energy of the train at the end to recharge the batteries instead of it going to waste

[@airtimeaddict]

I went on it for the first time this summer, it is so nerve racking sitting down for the first time, looking at the lap bar and saying”THATS HOLDING ME IN!!!!!”

[@IsleofPigsStudios]

The Giga that wanted to be a Strata

[@MichaelRei99]

It has LSM virus syndrome.

[@MichaelRei99]

@@frankthecat1660Completely meaningless.

[@KKcampa]

Amazing ryan, thanks

[@vespinonl]

Thanks on behalf of the world for switching to the metric system. Also: I would love to order a pair of Vessis, but unfortunately they don’t ship to the Europe.

[@b9038056]

Hello Ryan, thank you for another fantastic video!!

[@ZMSaypol]

And seriously Ryan keep these amazing sponsor segues in every video. I'm currently imagining SFGA's maintenance team wearing Vessi's. Lmaooooooo

[@Sodasneak1]

He said the block zone words, it’s going a banger of a video.

[@titanpolus5088]

I had a feeling it was going to be supercapcitors. very cool.

[@thebeard2165]

I'm here for the block zones. :D

[@brandonmalleck6947]

Ryan, do you know if there are any LSM coasters that use the braking energy to generate electricity for the next launch?

[@stephenrowan8128]

I would be surprised if some of these DIDN'T use some sort of regens, both for energy dissipation and recovery on these short tracks.

[@Langelito637]

I feel like I can almost say the Block Zones section from memory in unison with Ryan. Lmao

[@Spedatr0n]

Such an insane coaster!

[@zachpeterson2135]

This is incredible Ryan! I look forward to the video you'll eventually make covering TT2 with its InTraSys components. It'll be very interesting to hear you comparing the two!

[@Coasters_and_More]

This video suddenly reminded me of how I’ve never eaten cottage cheese

[@njdotson]

The block zone explanation is the highlight of the video using sponsorblock

[@fletchy40]

That Falcon’s Flight coaster in Saudi Arabia they’re proposing looks like something that could only exist in NoLimits. I cannot believe that something of that insane size over desert mountains with all that length could be built in real life. I cannot imaging how much money that will burn through.

[@cbjueueiwyru7472]

I'm so burned out on the top thrill dragster clones. The launch and top hat was cool in like 2002 because of the records but when you actually think about it, it's not that cool of a ride.

[@Celatra]

dragster wasnt even the og. Xcelerator is the og.

[@patrickkennedy232]

Can't wait for a similar video about Top Thrill 2

[@punishedfoxo]

I'm fairly sure the issue with the brake fins isn't the cylinder, it's actually the solenoid valves since they're considerably less reliable and wear out much faster than the more robust cylinders. When these do occur, it's often the cylinders not retracting, rather than failing to extend, since they'll select 5/2 valves based on if they fail open or fail closed.

[@Premier_Thrills]

I'll be riding Red-Force for the first time next Sunday!

[@LayZeeChill]

ElToroRyan, you are so perfect.

[@emmata98]

20:50 capacitors don't charge linerally though if you feed it constant voltages

[@Baomang_]

the capacity nerd inside of me hates this coaster and portadvontura world lmao

[@alexanderkvenvolden4067]

8:35 Well played.

[@andyroman8223]

You should definitely consider making a video on Cannibal at Lagoon

[@JonahTV]

Damn your add transitions are smoother than RMC's

[@titanpolus5088]

I think it would be cool if you did a video rating (either by tier list or number scale) each manufacturer that has existed in the last 30 years. Rate how accurately they communicate their sales pitch to parks. Like that wooden coaster company that sucks, vs intamin who delivers on their proposals but always misquotes realistic capacity numbers. I would love to see a video like that.

[@badmoonrising7795]

I’m an enthusiast that doesn’t get to parks much due to work but this year I finally ticked this off my bucket list . I was expecting a tame launch as I’ve experienced a couple of hydraulic launches. How wrong I was. If you ride this keep your head back or you’re gonna get whiplash. This ride was wayyyy better than I expected and I can’t decide if shambala is better. Love them both.

[@InvagPrune]

You maybe not paying attention in the queue then, every launch just before the LSMs would whirr up loudly and you can hear the electrical power humming for just a second, very impressive and was hype for going on the ride. I went couple months ago but got on the front by luck :) hbu?

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

That’s pretty cool

[@caitlynbrown4425]

Been on this loved it ❤❤❤

[@urbex_coasters]

For those of you unfamiliar, a blockzone is a section of track only 1 train may occupy.

[@marcussorenson3380]

great video as always eltoro ryan

[@Thefury325]

Haven’t been on this looks fun I have been on 2 gig as Millie and fury 325 and fury’s at my home park so it’s just in my backyard but it’s only 2 hours away from me

[@CarlileCoasters]

Hopefully LSMs can get to the power of hydraulic launches someday

[@Daniel_Coasters]

They can! I forgot what video showed the lsm g force but it can go up to 2.5gs!

[@IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters]

This ride looks awesome, and I love Intamin rides! It was interesting to hear about their history with miscalculations about block zone times. That certainly would affect capacity. I'm curious to see if they are getting better with it.

[@Spike-sk7ql]

Intamin>every other coaster manufacturer It's really not even a contest either. Maybe RMC can challenge them one day, but they're too young of a company yet. Intamin is still the master of thrill rides.

[@BCCwildcat]

I think should Zamperla successful deliver Top Thrill experience at Cedar Point (you see what I did there...LOL), I can see a vast majority of Hydraulic coasters eventually being converted to LSM.

[@TheArrowDynamicsGuy]

I have a question, every year I go on a trip to a park, or a few parks and I don't know where to go next year, do you have any recommendations?

[@ElToroRyan]

I usually try to go some place new I haven’t been to, especially if I can clump together parks I haven’t been to yet that are in a similar area. Or go to a park I really want to revisit!

[@TheArrowDynamicsGuy]

@@ElToroRyan thanks! I have been debating over Texas or Ohio, I live in northern California (near Californias Great America), and I've been to most of the parks in California, but I love Knotts berry farm so I might go back to that area to.