Elvin Jones, Max Roach, and Art Blakey Drum Battle

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SleepingThroughHell

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@joey_gallant
@joey_gallant Жыл бұрын
I love watching Max Roach play. He almost looks like a chef preparing a meal.
@rodneygolden2796
@rodneygolden2796 10 ай бұрын
THIS WAS NOT A BATTLE. IT WAS A SUMMIT MEETING, PURE AND NOT SIMPLE!!!. SUPERB.
@Bfdasmith
@Bfdasmith 3 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought this can't get any better, Max Roach walked onstage. Just when I thought this can't get any better, Art Blakey walked onstage. Just when I thought this can't any better, they started playing together. The crappy quality of this video actually helps capture the sense of history. Perfect!
@killifish
@killifish 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@FelixWheatfield
@FelixWheatfield Жыл бұрын
Elvin Jones was such a unique drummer. He would transition erratically between long, fluid, and legato sections and quiet sections with a lot of negative space, but for as erratic as it was, it was always musical. Elvin was a true storyteller who always kept you excited about what he was going to do next.
@doctorpatient519
@doctorpatient519 Жыл бұрын
beautifully said, Sir ... if you can, please search here for Elvin Jones Jan Hammer "Destiny" ... another aspect of Elvin's genius, this time in a more electric context
@miguelbringas4037
@miguelbringas4037 2 ай бұрын
Those sounds are so organic. Beautiful
@rjharvey3408
@rjharvey3408 6 күн бұрын
The legends here are the blue print among others who contributed to drumming. Salute💯
@davidlewis3918
@davidlewis3918 Жыл бұрын
Oh the timing!!! Oh the stamina!!! Oh the power!!!
@xtremenortherner
@xtremenortherner Жыл бұрын
I'll name the participants of this drum "battle"(more like a sporting event for these gentlemen!)The Maestro(Elvin), the Killer(Max) and finally the Crazy(Art,naturally!) The Maestro & the Killer lay down some impressive drumming..., but "Crazy" here just goes all out! (We were blessed by/ these guys musicianship in our lifetime!)
@ryebread7224
@ryebread7224 5 ай бұрын
3 geniuses demonstrating their excellence. So much talent on that stage...
@cezmiyarimkaya7877
@cezmiyarimkaya7877 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal artists and what a gem of a recording.
@bjhill314
@bjhill314 Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to see Elvin on his 70th birthday show and Max Roach in Seattle. Class acts ...
@taocpa
@taocpa 3 жыл бұрын
Notice to young drummers: they created more magic using 4 piece drum kits than many drummers do with big drum kits.
@harrymears1623
@harrymears1623 3 жыл бұрын
sick observation!
@alfching2499
@alfching2499 3 жыл бұрын
If you can’t play what is the use of 27 drums you only need one to be able to play.
@russelltoffoli444
@russelltoffoli444 3 жыл бұрын
wow this has never been said before
@harrymears1623
@harrymears1623 3 жыл бұрын
@@russelltoffoli444 Ive been drumming for 50 years and reading youtube comments since the 60s and this is my first time hearing this idea, this concept. I find it not only insightful but also funny. It also helps me to feel superior even though my preferred genre is less profitable/ popular than others
@zelmoziggy
@zelmoziggy 3 жыл бұрын
Junior Brown’s drummer was terrific using just one drum.
@yoguibruja
@yoguibruja 3 жыл бұрын
All three have such a recognizable style that you could guess who is who with your eyes closed
@celomasina
@celomasina 3 жыл бұрын
We can see so much love and respect between them and for the art of drummung and jazz.
@kevinsullivan2362
@kevinsullivan2362 Ай бұрын
in the mid 90s I saw Max Roach play. By then he was old and it was a feeble performance. Literally a week later I saw Elvin for the first time, sitting front row, expected the same. He blew the roof off the place. Broke two drum peddles. I actually wished I had sat further away. He was still a monster!
@よっちゃん-u8y1i
@よっちゃん-u8y1i 3 жыл бұрын
アートブレイキーのドラミングになぜか涙がとまらない。テクニック云々のレベルじゃない。魂を感じるから。残念ながら生で見た事ないが私にとっては世界一のドラマーです。何となく和太鼓に通じるものを感じます。そう言えばあなたは日本が好きでしたね.奥さんも日本人だとか。孤児を引き取る優しさを忘れません
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit Жыл бұрын
All these guys are from the same era but have such different approaches. They utilise the same rudiments but have their own distinctive sound.
@JMoroccoMisterBoy
@JMoroccoMisterBoy Жыл бұрын
I saw and listened in stunned silence to Mr. Art Blakey in the West Village in the Middle Seventies. Tks. much.
@AlbertWolfe-p9v
@AlbertWolfe-p9v Жыл бұрын
i love how confident art blakey is. he doesnt even need to start heavy, he knows he's king
@jordanposnik6663
@jordanposnik6663 Жыл бұрын
He blew Max and Elvin out of the water
@AlbertWolfe-p9v
@AlbertWolfe-p9v Жыл бұрын
@@jordanposnik6663 as a king does
@klauzer3593
@klauzer3593 Жыл бұрын
​@@jordanposnik6663No way. Max and Elvin were a lot more adventurous and had more creative use of space, which is indicative of them spearheading the free sound of the 60s. Blakey was amazing in his fundamentals however.
@Jazzygrouch144
@Jazzygrouch144 5 ай бұрын
​@@klauzer3593nah
@davissinclair4945
@davissinclair4945 3 ай бұрын
To each his own opinion. They are all great drummers who influenced a whole lot of musicians.
@drowdaba
@drowdaba Жыл бұрын
all three so distinct and unique
@cjhmuller
@cjhmuller 14 күн бұрын
Perguntaram para Ginger Baker quais os bateristas que ele reverenciava, os melhores, e sem pensar muito respondeu: Máximo respeito e admiração Phil Seamen, Max Roach, Art Blakey e Elvin Jones. Mais ninguém!!!
@keithoutterbridge8782
@keithoutterbridge8782 8 ай бұрын
Those cymbals sound amazing
@angelbatdawid3596
@angelbatdawid3596 3 жыл бұрын
How do such wonders even exist in the universe!!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@marcoramirez709
@marcoramirez709 2 жыл бұрын
My God, this is great.
@danielschnee2666
@danielschnee2666 Жыл бұрын
Elvin, Max, and Art taking everyone to school... best school ever. ❤
@justicekeyes308
@justicekeyes308 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing to watch this! Thank you for sharing this footage its awesome! Takes me back to the 1970' village Gate as a young teenage watching Art Blakey & the Jazz messengers! First Class Jazz & incredible drumming! Hey what Jamakin' Art!
@carlossantos2147
@carlossantos2147 2 ай бұрын
There's no way to watch those drummers performing, the best ever, without being fully emotional.
@4980cbs
@4980cbs 6 ай бұрын
The Holy Trinity of jazz percussion.
@RonCarterBassist
@RonCarterBassist 2 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Slickmickyoyo97
@Slickmickyoyo97 Жыл бұрын
Man listen to how much Bonham was influenced by Blakey. So many early rock drummers had such a heavy jazz influence.
@dylangatenby9928
@dylangatenby9928 Жыл бұрын
Same with Ginger Baker. Both Bonham and Baker had deeply influenced jazz roots and they actually blended techniques of jazz and rock even if they were just playing solid rock music.
@dylangatenby9928
@dylangatenby9928 Жыл бұрын
Same with Ginger Baker. Both Bonham and Baker had deeply influenced jazz roots and they actually blended techniques of jazz and rock even if they were just playing solid rock music. Same thing goes for Hendrix’s drummer Mitch Mitchell
@meyou-dv8ns
@meyou-dv8ns Жыл бұрын
I agree, Barry Barlow of Jethro Tull is about 10 times better then John Bonham, and Roach is about 50 times better then John Bonham
@JohnDoe-me9jh
@JohnDoe-me9jh Жыл бұрын
@@meyou-dv8nsbarry barlow as good as he isn’t, isnt as good as bonham tbh. but max roach ofc would be even bonham would agree himself
@blvcksandblues
@blvcksandblues 3 ай бұрын
Yeah so many of the rock chops are just jazz chops.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 Жыл бұрын
Of these 3 absolute giants, Max Roach is definitely my favorite, but it'd be really hard to say who won this drum battle. Each was remarkable in his own way.
@petedazer3381
@petedazer3381 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, thanks for sharing!
@robsherfey4582
@robsherfey4582 2 жыл бұрын
You can see/hear the progression of jazz drumming watching this. Pretty cool.
@jwardbass4452
@jwardbass4452 7 ай бұрын
This is like if Hendrix, Gilmour and Page had a guitar battle. The amount of influence in that room is incalculable.
@samuelblinne6040
@samuelblinne6040 Жыл бұрын
Max roach is my favorite jazz drummer
@chrisduffy2737
@chrisduffy2737 9 ай бұрын
Roach had a melodic approach to drum breaks and accompaniment. Jones was a monster driving a band. Blakey was the only real soloist. Few long drum solos make sense; they're mostly pyrotechnics.
@BegetterVIIEVEN
@BegetterVIIEVEN 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@ellisvives
@ellisvives 3 жыл бұрын
The Holy Trinity itself
@robertslagle7176
@robertslagle7176 4 ай бұрын
The Thunder of the Gods.
@michaelstephans3080
@michaelstephans3080 3 жыл бұрын
Three “winners,” not one.
@gruntrvn
@gruntrvn Жыл бұрын
Such a special treat, that had to be, for anyone fortunate enough to have actually been there! At first I thought that Art was just there on his name, until he started smoking in the middle. Hands down winner in my opine. Would have loved it if Philly Joe was with them also.
@paatanatsvlishvili4334
@paatanatsvlishvili4334 7 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@davidwallace3329
@davidwallace3329 Жыл бұрын
Was this recorded at Snape Maltings in Suffolk for the BBC? I think I was there!
@TheMrE1974
@TheMrE1974 3 жыл бұрын
Art Blakey all day long...pure rhythm
@MegaVentz
@MegaVentz 3 жыл бұрын
They don't do drum solos, they tell stories.
@luiszuluaga6575
@luiszuluaga6575 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! ✊🏼🥁
@LOFIAD
@LOFIAD 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@saanzacs
@saanzacs 3 жыл бұрын
The other 'holy trinity' of jazz drummers
@MrSkunkwork
@MrSkunkwork 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say Blakey walked away with this one. He just had more rhythmic energy. All three were amazing, though.
@alfching2499
@alfching2499 3 жыл бұрын
Quite Right, Alf a life time Messengers fan
@suhan8382
@suhan8382 3 жыл бұрын
Hi hat and bass makes things at time and rhythmic
@Riddim4
@Riddim4 Жыл бұрын
That was my impression, and with no disrespect to anyone else. He was definitely feeling it that day. Reminded me a lot of Billy with Mahavishnu in terms of taking charge.
@dherz108
@dherz108 5 жыл бұрын
Seems earlier than 1968. Happy Birthday Elvin!
@Disneylandonacid1982
@Disneylandonacid1982 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 3 жыл бұрын
dherz108 ...1968!!!
@HankFinkle11
@HankFinkle11 3 жыл бұрын
Three masters.
@familytreemusic
@familytreemusic 2 жыл бұрын
They are 3 giants and Elvin is my favorite ever. But Bu killed this one hands down.
@ProfRobertStewart
@ProfRobertStewart 8 ай бұрын
Max is KING, hands down.😁
@rey82rey82
@rey82rey82 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket Max
@mikeharrison4659
@mikeharrison4659 10 ай бұрын
And that folks is who taught GINGER BAKER.......
@zqa12swx
@zqa12swx 2 жыл бұрын
6:27 that legendary press roll
@jeshurunabinadab6560
@jeshurunabinadab6560 Жыл бұрын
👑👑👑
@nedgrant7718
@nedgrant7718 3 жыл бұрын
Max Roach: Carved from Granite! What they do on Mt. Olympus...
@KCNYC
@KCNYC 3 жыл бұрын
Max gets my vote on this one
@DanielKodiak
@DanielKodiak 3 жыл бұрын
Hey another cellist that loves max roach??
@lodovicogianputtani1405
@lodovicogianputtani1405 2 жыл бұрын
Elvin was really ahead.... not technically speaking.... but with the drum solo concept in itself. Few noticed
@FURDOG1961
@FURDOG1961 2 жыл бұрын
0:00
@gilbertartman6106
@gilbertartman6106 10 ай бұрын
Elvin seemed to be phoning it in, tho…Max really cut them
@Spillage66
@Spillage66 Жыл бұрын
Fast forward to 2:00 to save watching some drunk, falling asleep at the kit!
@BuckrBill
@BuckrBill 11 күн бұрын
To the day he died Ginger Baker said the best drummer that ever came out of the UK was Phil Seamens.. Somehow there is no video anywhere of him playing his drums no shortage of songs where you can hear him play his drums So if Ginger Baker said Phil Seamens was the best drummer in the UK to me.. that means Phil Seamens was the best drummer in the world… The second best drummer…Ginger Baker… One of Ginger Baker‘s good friends was Max Roach
@nedgrant7718
@nedgrant7718 3 жыл бұрын
And why do they insist on calling musical collaborations a “drum battle”?
@inerstate8
@inerstate8 3 жыл бұрын
1) Virtuosic artists throughout history have always tended to use competition to push their limits. If you get into a cutting contest with your peers, it's safe to assume that the natural desire to win will be at least a small motivating factor in your playing. 2) It's fun for us as an audience to contextualize the performance this way. It adds drama and urges us to act actively as judges as opposed to passively as bystanders. 3) As you can see, they are playing their pieces separately, not together; which makes it hard to refer to this as a colab. except for in a very loose sense of the word.
@nedgrant7718
@nedgrant7718 3 жыл бұрын
@@inerstate8 Thanks! I’ll,remember to add “asking rhetorically” in the future. 🤫
@K50ATTACK
@K50ATTACK 3 жыл бұрын
elvin jones oozing collaborative vibes at 2:40
@mickeyfinnegan7469
@mickeyfinnegan7469 6 ай бұрын
someone needs to clean up this print! repost it...what you don,t need 3 bass drums and 15 other drums?
@strettoasino9006
@strettoasino9006 Жыл бұрын
"Know thy drum kit" Psalm's 7/8th...
@glennbuxton268
@glennbuxton268 3 жыл бұрын
Max roach
@MrMLD1972
@MrMLD1972 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏾
@alb4u
@alb4u 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin Jones #1
@BLUEPLANETJAZZ
@BLUEPLANETJAZZ 4 жыл бұрын
They are all great, but Elvin Jones never lost a drum battle.
@mthomas1973
@mthomas1973 3 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of it here, he was the one with the least musical performance and imagination
@0SW13
@0SW13 3 жыл бұрын
@@mthomas1973 of the three, elvin is the least 'straight ahead'. he comes out on top imo in terms of phrasing, inventiveness and texture. not to discount max or art, but they had playing solos similar to these, the same licks, for decades
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 3 жыл бұрын
BLUEPLANETJAZZ ...According to you.
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@0SW13 ...Stop!
@finncoover5692
@finncoover5692 3 жыл бұрын
Until he met art lol
@PeteDei
@PeteDei 4 ай бұрын
All great but I don’t think they are in the same league as buddy rich as far as a solo goes
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 3 жыл бұрын
😀💙🌱🥀
@dt9r
@dt9r 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin for ever
@sumtin05698
@sumtin05698 Жыл бұрын
came in here expecting Elvin to kinda win this even though they are all fckin legends, but i’ll be damned if Art Bu Blakey didn’t just lowkey eviscerate them… once again yea it’s not a competition but it is quite literally a drum battle so that’s just my opinion
@awilywolf
@awilywolf 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird... If I try to hear the unspoken beats, I can hear the rhythm. But, If I try to just listen, it kinda clashes with my sense of rhythm, breakbeat or not. I feel stupid, lol, but, sometimes I can hear something close to rhythmic progression, other times, i just hear incomprehensible noise.
@JesseOnThaDrums
@JesseOnThaDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Drum solos dont have to follow a beat
@amugen
@amugen Жыл бұрын
These lucky people were treated to an extraordinary feast of drumming.
@charleskendall6401
@charleskendall6401 3 жыл бұрын
2nd guy, that's pretty impressive if that was all single strokes
@JesseOnThaDrums
@JesseOnThaDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Its doubles
@AlexWyattDrums
@AlexWyattDrums 7 ай бұрын
@@JesseOnThaDrums It's a mixture of singles, doubles, and paradiddles. It depends which phrase. A lot of Max's fastest stuff was indeed all singles, but he had a lot of different patterns that used different sticking.
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 3 жыл бұрын
🙄💙🌼🌱
@alhoward6514
@alhoward6514 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin J all the way.
@larrbrown7277
@larrbrown7277 3 жыл бұрын
Mr clean.
@brandonhowell4512
@brandonhowell4512 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin Jones ftw.
@DameyunHenry-fr7jl
@DameyunHenry-fr7jl Жыл бұрын
THE REAL BATTLE WAS BETWEEN MAX ROACH vs BUDDY RICH THEY WERE 2 OF THE FASTEST DRUMMERS IN THE WORLD
@itsmebeter3538
@itsmebeter3538 3 жыл бұрын
art blakey was ascending
@gilbertmoreno7993
@gilbertmoreno7993 2 жыл бұрын
They all rocked before there was rock. You can hear much they influenced the later generations.
@countycricklewood
@countycricklewood 3 жыл бұрын
Traditional way of holding the sticks
@Savinu_Chamadith
@Savinu_Chamadith 3 жыл бұрын
Max Roach's drumming is magnificent, but here his polite was gone wild, he didn't wait till Elvin stop his solo. That's horrible :(
@michaelEvans-zo4lt
@michaelEvans-zo4lt 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that Elvin was winding down so Max could come in. Three of my favorite drummers. Thanks for posting.
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 Жыл бұрын
@michael Evans ...Correct!
@U2WB
@U2WB Жыл бұрын
Max sits down and in 10 seconds owns Elvin.
@nathaniellathy6559
@nathaniellathy6559 3 жыл бұрын
Suit and tie is better for performances. Sixties brought in bad habits.Still good playing all around
@montysonful
@montysonful 3 жыл бұрын
they all look like toy drum sets compared to what's used today
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 3 жыл бұрын
😂 they do!!! Just goes to show, you don't need those big kits on order to play great!!!
@navyflyer7465
@navyflyer7465 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin Jones is out of his League. He's from a different era of drumming then Max and Blakey. That's how come he was made to go first.
@luisn642
@luisn642 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Max Roach was born only three years before Elvin. It’s not the era, just the style.
@goesjem
@goesjem 3 жыл бұрын
@@luisn642 The only difference is that Elvin started playing much later. Art, Max and Elvin are the holy trinity of jazz drummers. They gave so much to the art and all had unique styles and sounds. Give me those three over Buddy Rich any day. They are full of dynamics, melody and musicality. Not just showing off. You see how much space they leave. Buddy was great, but just filled space with 32nd and 64th notes. Sometime one note means everything!
@Nissardpertugiu
@Nissardpertugiu 2 жыл бұрын
@@goesjem the machine gun buddy was mainly in short clips on tv show. In his own stuff that was quite different. Later on he did, similar to Elvin, some abstract solos , including some entirely in Match grip ! As opposite to the popular opinion.
@Nissardpertugiu
@Nissardpertugiu 2 жыл бұрын
@@goesjem also he s doing not at all busy in the album with Allah rakkha
@upyours574
@upyours574 2 жыл бұрын
Musical drums. How it should be.
@anthonygilmore5969
@anthonygilmore5969 2 жыл бұрын
Wow....had always been a huge max roach fan but blakey destroyed it. Art has more texture and purpose....max concentrates on speed and power only.
@edellis7691
@edellis7691 3 жыл бұрын
Elgin Jones. Stamp collecting in his future. Art Blakey better. Max Roach…I feel sorry for the audience Max. Lol Buddy…god!!!!!!
@pp_h
@pp_h 3 жыл бұрын
a lot of this i didn't like. but there were some good parts like then the third guy went on stage, he had a pretty good start.
@ettorelachina3587
@ettorelachina3587 3 жыл бұрын
I think: respect, they made the way (but… overtaken drumming, some modern drummer makes music even in solo, not just drumming)
@ettorelachina3587
@ettorelachina3587 3 жыл бұрын
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@imamba1
@imamba1 Жыл бұрын
At the risk of being ridiculed, I can honestly write that while there is no denying their superb technique, I didn't like any of them in this video. I couldn't tsp my feet to this kind of drumming and if I can't do that, then its just noise. It don't mean a thing if it ain't gogt that swing. That's a fact.
@robertlepper5460
@robertlepper5460 Жыл бұрын
No it merely shows your narrow understanding of black classical music
@SuperLocrian
@SuperLocrian 3 жыл бұрын
Art Blakey walks onstage... John Bonham 👂
@strettoasino9006
@strettoasino9006 Жыл бұрын
Jazz drummer's do more with less...by having more talent too start with...
@stephenjoseph1346
@stephenjoseph1346 3 жыл бұрын
Ginger took on Art And Elvin.who does that and Survived? Ginger
@robertoricci3393
@robertoricci3393 2 жыл бұрын
@Andy Butler Baker overrated? He created the rock drum solo and pioneered afrobeat music, just to name some of his contributions. Playing rolls and paradiddles at 250 bpm doesn't necessarily make you a legend. Baker was the Cream drummer for barely 4 years, his career lasted almost 50 years. Listen to "Sunrise on the Sufferbus" by Masters of Reality and maybe you'll realize how amazing Baker was.
@earthorigins3509
@earthorigins3509 3 жыл бұрын
Elvin Jones is mediocre at best. He is not creative whatsoever and boring too.
@durfdurffigan8680
@durfdurffigan8680 3 жыл бұрын
Normie
@Cartmanisntfat1
@Cartmanisntfat1 3 жыл бұрын
??? go listen to any of his music lmao your ears are the issue not his playing
@martinkent_
@martinkent_ 3 жыл бұрын
Go back to blast beats
@Cartmanisntfat1
@Cartmanisntfat1 3 жыл бұрын
u talkin about me 😳
@dt9r
@dt9r 3 жыл бұрын
You re kidding, right?
@tapski1
@tapski1 Жыл бұрын
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