EMG MMHZ & BQC Preamp in a Ray4 SUB - ULTIMATE Stingray (SUB) Mod Guide - LowEndLobster Fresh Look

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Hey everyone! Today we're checking out the EMG MMHZ ceramic humbucker paired with their BQC 3 band preamp with variable mid sweep. All this is installed inside a Sterling by Music Man Ray4 SUB. Sadly, this required a minimal bit of cavity modding to get 100%, but I think the end result is EXCELLENT! Let's check this thing out!
This is the ULTIMATE Stingray Mod Guide! This week long series will be looking at 8... that's right EIGHT different pickups and 3-band (mostly) drop-in preamps from many of the big names and some lesser known brands as well! See below for links to all of the videos (will be updated throughout the week). I will be dropping TWO videos a day Monday-Thursday with the Grand Finale coming Friday on Christmas... with a special surprise at the end.
Aguilar: • Aguilar AG 4M & OBP 3 ...
Bartolini: • Bartolini MMC 4 & HR3....
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Delano/DarkGlass (Mint-O-Ray): • Delano MC4 & Darkglass...
John East (Preamp): • John East MMSR in a Ra...
Nordstrand: • Nordstrand MM4.2 & 3B-...
Seymour Duncan: • Seymour Duncan SMB-4A ...
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Finale: • ULTIMATE Stingray Mod ... (Xmas Eve/Xmas @ Midnight!)
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@PerezBroz-p5o
@PerezBroz-p5o 3 жыл бұрын
Now what would be super useful is a split screen of all of them taking turns so we can compare them side by side. That would be a major go-to video for so many. I love how thoroughly you go through and leave no stone unturned. Everything I would want to know is covered in your videos and for that I am grateful to have stumbled upon them.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Art! Check out the finale vid, I do a side by side with all 8 examples :)
@shawnlewis220
@shawnlewis220 3 жыл бұрын
The EMG combo, and the Nordstrand combo are my two favorites.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shawn!
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm super impressed with that HZ comboed up with the BQC. I'm running the 40 DC's, active humbuckers in my Spector 5 string with the BTS system, it sounds amazing but... it doesn't quite capture what you got going on there with that combo. Um so I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board lol.
@mikeplefka9688
@mikeplefka9688 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@cwilliamsphoto
@cwilliamsphoto 10 ай бұрын
3 years after this video was released and here I am once AGAIN being sold by EMG products. I have more of their pickups in my basses than anything else and nothing from them has ever disappointed me. I'm in the process of building up a Warmoth bass with a single MM humbucker, and being an owner of a Stingray Classic (USA model) and a Stingray Special 5HH, I'm intimately familiar with how they sound and just how different they are. I could easily just make another 2EQ classic sounding bass with the preamp and pickup combination we all know and love...but dangit here you are showing me why EMG dominates the tone in my head. Gets out the credit card...thanks Lobster!
@JBKeyz88
@JBKeyz88 3 жыл бұрын
I just pulled the trigger and purchased the MMHZ pickup with the BTC HZ preamp. Can't wait to see how it sounds in my hands. Thanks for the inspiration.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@JBKeyz88
@JBKeyz88 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster I purchased the push/pull pot being that the pickup can switch from series to parallel. I’m going to try it passive with the switch to see how I like it before installing the preamp.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@JBKeyz88 Awesome! I was going to try for that as well but definitely did not have the space with the BQC in there as well (that PCB is so much bigger than the BTC, it's nuts)
3 жыл бұрын
My Stirling Stingray 5 just died from an unknown reason. But with this video I think I just found my new setup !! Thanks !
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Modification was needed for the 4 string's control cavity (just slight dremeling, nothing crazing), but I think you'll be good to go with the 5'er. Happy modding!
@twocats2543
@twocats2543 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! This was the one I was waiting to hear the most and I am totally sold. Regardless of the setting (centered, everything cut, everything boosted) everything sounded even and clean. I love that about EMG. The only knock and this depends on what one is looking for, is that it is not the classic Stingray sound. Sometime next year I am going to have to get a Ray 35 to copy your mod 👍 Thank you, Lobster!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Taconeko :) Glad you're enjoying the series
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 3 жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree and have been an EMG fan for 25 years, yet so many people out there don't like the way they sound which is kind of crazy to me lol...
@thiagodeandradeneves4585
@thiagodeandradeneves4585 3 жыл бұрын
I like this one a lot more than I thought I would .Might even be my favorite.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thiago! Me too :)
@wullie1mccreadie219
@wullie1mccreadie219 3 жыл бұрын
When you need a fix of stingray content you come see the lobster. Excellent as always 🦞
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wullie :)
@guy5359
@guy5359 3 жыл бұрын
I just love EMG pickups and preamp LowEndLobster! I think that one is gonna be my favorite of them all!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guy :)
@srirachaseahawk
@srirachaseahawk 3 жыл бұрын
I’m genuinely surprised at how much I liked that one. Smooth and clear without any excessive clank.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm in the same boat :)
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh yeah....my FAV so far...im a LOVING the EMG O RAY!!!...that was at detent....WOW!!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@48streetrat
@48streetrat 3 жыл бұрын
Clarity and 👊 punch.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed :)
@andrewlookenbill3249
@andrewlookenbill3249 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with the rest, I think this combo so far has been my favorite. Bass sounds awesome, amazing what can do when you have a platform to create exactly what you want. Keep the videos coming, always waiting for the next one!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew!
@matthewlunsford4351
@matthewlunsford4351 3 жыл бұрын
Had to listen to this multiple times. When I was playing guitar the only EMGs I liked was the David Gilmore Strat set! This was a pleasant surprise! If I did not know better, I would think I had tuned the preamp ranges for EMG. I really like this preamp/pickup combination! For me, IMHO, this is the winner thus far.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew! I dig this one a lot as well :)
@PushSueAside
@PushSueAside 3 жыл бұрын
🎵🎶”The btc has the larger pcb when you have to do some moddin....”🎶🎵 I’ll never get that out of my head, it’s just that catchy. It sounds Amazing Thank you for sharing
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
XD Thanks Tommy!
@nopeoplecorp
@nopeoplecorp 11 ай бұрын
Enjoying those EMG passives - going to install this setup on my OLP.
@KwonCW84
@KwonCW84 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this; and just as I expected, this mod has punchy tone of Stingray and Crispy highs of EMG.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah this one really impressed me
@ninovalenti96
@ninovalenti96 3 жыл бұрын
This bass sounded great. I love EMG pickups. Since you're in the modding mood, try an Aguilar preamp with the EMG pickups, it's like a match made in heaven.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
That's an idea! Thanks Nino!
@daltonbell2907
@daltonbell2907 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't expect i would be so impressed with this combo.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Me neither hahaha, I'm right there with you.
@donh5794
@donh5794 3 жыл бұрын
You really had fun Lobster. The mod sounds like it gives the Sub 4 a better tone. I liked when you boosted the mids.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don! :)
@roadtonever
@roadtonever 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. This setup didn't impress me at me at first, but when I heard you play it with the drum track I immediately heard that it's got to the tone I've been looking for. Really looking forward to putting it in my bass.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! This was one of my favorite combos and really opened my eyes to the quality of EMG and their passive pickups. The BTC fits better without having to mod the cavity, but the BQC adds a ton of flexibility. Happy modding!
@mgibson454
@mgibson454 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised, didn't expect to love this combo as much as I do. I think this may be my favorite combo you've tried so far!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! Me too, very surprised by this. This bass was definitely my 'gateway drug' into EMG hahaha
@DonDanial45
@DonDanial45 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Christmas came early this year, especially for us who love these Stingrays and our wallets
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Danial :)
@130mMer5boc
@130mMer5boc 4 ай бұрын
This combo exudes tastiness.
@FrIgHtNiGhT71
@FrIgHtNiGhT71 Жыл бұрын
I'm sold! Between the SD and the EMG I think these are the two best preamps you've reviewed. Since I'm only a hobbyist, I wonder if it's even worth it though...
@zacharydesjardins3701
@zacharydesjardins3701 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh, I like the sound of this!! I really like this one the most so far. There is so much variation and you are able to customize.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zachary!
@GozhouCS
@GozhouCS 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the typical stingray sound but it's what I like the most. It cuts through without trouble and has that EMG clarity, that can also be tamed if needed. Let's not forget to mention the sweepable mids. They're a must imho.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree :)
@ryanrogers8923
@ryanrogers8923 3 жыл бұрын
Dam fine bass sir, it sounds so good shaping. It has a great personality all its own.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan! I agree
@jeremygalvin7726
@jeremygalvin7726 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth and crispy. My favorite one so far!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeremy :)
@mattgarrido41
@mattgarrido41 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite of the week! That variable mid sweep makes it so versatile!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt :)
@bobt5778
@bobt5778 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this combo hits closer to your EBmm's than the others. Well done.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob!
@etpslick100
@etpslick100 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I’m pleasantly surprised. Love EMG guitar pickups; but was never really into the bass pickups. That MMHZ sounds great coupled with that EMG preamp.😌🎶👍🏾
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree, I was surprised by this as well
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
Have HIGH HOPES for the EMG combo....cause i have ALWAYS loved EMG stuff...i own several basses that have EMG stuff in them...and are some of my favs!!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! These are super sweet paired together
@Peter-Alexander
@Peter-Alexander 2 жыл бұрын
Always fun to watch you playing a bass you really enjoy! I think the Ray 4 with dr hi beam lr40's already sounds fantastic but the emg together with that versatile preamp makes it an even better package! Thanks for this very informative video.
@nathanchalcraft6919
@nathanchalcraft6919 3 жыл бұрын
The modern pickup in a classic bass!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed :)
@jeffjones1143
@jeffjones1143 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're definitely putting me in the mood for a 'Ray. I'm psyched for the short scale. It's sort of a Tony Levin feeling! Good stuff Low. It doesn't sound like a 'Ray but it's nice! It ought to cut through any mix. That top sounds great.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff :)
@rmccain99
@rmccain99 Жыл бұрын
That's the best-sounding MM pickup that they make.
@mattrodela2030
@mattrodela2030 3 жыл бұрын
Great tome. Sounds compressed. Good value for the dough.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
This bass has some MEAT on its bones for SURE...i am predicting a WINNER HERE!!!...YES I AM CALLING IT NOW!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
;)
@robertotakahashi9950
@robertotakahashi9950 Жыл бұрын
This combo really sounds great. Unfortunately here in Brazil buying pups and preamps and bridges or tuners are to expensive to worthy this mods. Love your vids and experimentations. Congrats.
@samcockrell
@samcockrell 3 жыл бұрын
Love the EMG SOUND
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! I agree, this is a killer combo
@martinheath5947
@martinheath5947 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Sounds awesome. Love this combination 👍
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin!
@cristieturri2054
@cristieturri2054 Жыл бұрын
with this instrument, a set of used strings that will have lost their brilliance can always sound like new, just give a suitable adjustment to the tone , very good
@thefool2007
@thefool2007 3 жыл бұрын
Damn the mids are clean, clear and musical. Way impressed with that setup. Love the LobsterMods. Just once...I’d love to hear the pleasing sound the claw makes when it hits the floor. Damn I need that pup and pre on my SubRay4.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick! LOL the claw thwap ahahaha it is glorious
@thefool2007
@thefool2007 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster I’m making a special request that it makes it into a video. I suspect it is a glorious sound. Let your brothers and sisters in bass hear and rejoice in it as you do. Maybe put it on a loop even.
@trevorblair5552
@trevorblair5552 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lobster, I’m really impressed with this package. Not totally “stingray’” sounding but nice and phat. I’m feeling the grooves! 👍🏾🙏🏿
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Trevor! Me too :)
@falappisgarage_yt
@falappisgarage_yt 3 жыл бұрын
I just did something similar, only with the EMG MMCS and no preamp, just volume and tone. I think it sounds pretty good. Not exactly what a stingray usually sounds like, but not bad.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mickey! Awesome :)
@a.k.9660
@a.k.9660 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could hear a good quality sample of that setting because that's the one I'm looking for ;)
@rmccain99
@rmccain99 3 жыл бұрын
My friend, the preamp is inside MMCS . You are using a battery?
@jaxonvictoria4345
@jaxonvictoria4345 3 жыл бұрын
Dang! This sold me on the BQC! I’m planning a preamp swap on my EHB1005MS and this seems to fit the bill!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! That's a great idea :) what pickups would you go with?
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
Even with the preamp cut ...it sounds as good as a cpl of them at detent!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
right!? haha
@jamesdoughnut85
@jamesdoughnut85 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lobster for producing this video! Really impressed with the output from this combo, and planning to get a set for my SUB bass too. As I am very new to bass modifications, would you be able to advise the differences between BTC/BQC/BQS as well as HZ and non-HZ versions?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Hey James! I just used the regular BQC system here. When you see the Q, think Quad/four as you have four controls- bass, mid, mid freq, and treble. The BTC has the T, so think two (it's the two band). The C stands for concentric, the S probably stands for something else but I think "Spread out", as the controls are not stacked on the BQS. The HZ ones are meant for use with the HZ passive EMG pickups, but I just used the regular BQC here without issues. However keep in mind, this preamp did require some cavity mods. If you are not to keen on removing some material from the control cavity, I'd recommend going with the BTC with a volume and tone control.
@robertotakahashi9950
@robertotakahashi9950 Жыл бұрын
Question: how do you “cut the preamp entirely”? You mean rolling off bass, treble and mid? Cause doing this would means cut all frequencies, right? I mean: since the circuit is cut and boos and the center (click detent) would means flatting all frequencies according de centers determined by EMG. Did you installed some switch to put the bass in passive mode?
@johnpedrosilva
@johnpedrosilva 3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome the sound with that BQC control. On my I used the active pickup the MMCS with the BTS control and also sounds awesome
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks João!
@johnpedrosilva
@johnpedrosilva 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster really like your channel 👊🏻 greetings from Portugal
@mikehertz6507
@mikehertz6507 2 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster you have to review the Kramer D-1. It has that exact same set from the factory. MMCS with the BTS pre amp. Only $500. Good buy?
@JBKeyz88
@JBKeyz88 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! So I found two videos of the EMG pickup being installed without the preamp. Only using the volume and tone knob. Sounds pretty good, more like a Joe Dart sound signature. Have you tried this? If not, would you mind testing it and share your thoughts? I just purchased a sub ray 4 two days ago, thanks to you, and now I’m trying to decide which pickup to get for it.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
I have not, but we will do this next EMG MM project :)
@ChrisRossUK
@ChrisRossUK 3 жыл бұрын
The pickup sounds great, but I miss the huge pole pieces!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Christopher! I agree, it does look odd without the poles haha
@bassclefconnoisseur
@bassclefconnoisseur 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That p/up & eq combo sounds fantastic and extremely usable throughout the cut/boost range. Definitely my favorite so far. I like the tone of the ceramic pups...kitties too! Excellent channel bro Lobster! '): BassClef
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks BassClef :)
@bassclefconnoisseur
@bassclefconnoisseur 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster Possibly a stupid question: Does that emg set-up still require a battery for the eq section since the p/up is passive? Thanks
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassclefconnoisseur Not a stupid question at all! The EQ requires a battery, but the passive EMG pickup does not. Active EMG pickups that do require batteries would still only need a single 9V to power the preamp and pickups together, but you also have the option of running the circuit at 18v.
@bassclefconnoisseur
@bassclefconnoisseur 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster Yeah, I figured so...I've got the EMGJAX (alnico) active pups w/ the active tone circuit in one of my jazz basses and I absolutely love how they sound (and slap)! Just wasn't sure since that one is passive. Thanks so much for the speedy reply...now to check out how the Barts sound! Lobster for the win!!
@raym4694
@raym4694 2 жыл бұрын
Ok first off.... EMG MMHZ bass pickup, sounds very good, I have the same preamp and the 5 string brother of this pickup , what I can suggest is that instead of modding this to add a toggle or blade style switch to split the coil, I would add a 3 way or 4 way rotary switch to have series/parallel/ split or series/parallel/N coil/S coil to give different tones, the only real mod you would need to do is relocate the output jack and drill a hole either for a panel jack, or add a football jackplate and add the jack... but other than that I wouldnt change a thing, this is an amazing bass and yeah you don't get that "classic musicman tone" but tone is subjective to the musician, it all matters what you like and how you like it. Rock on Lobster man...
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ray! I too was really impressed with how nice the HZ sounded. Great mod idea! It could definitely be done. EMG does have the series/parallel HZ pots, but still no single option with those.
@raym4694
@raym4694 2 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster if you decide to do that you should make another mod video with those tone options...
@christopherphinney9585
@christopherphinney9585 Жыл бұрын
Hey Lonster, great vid. Watched all The mods vids. This one sounds great. So you think the EMGs just sound good or can they cop the stingray sound? Thanks.
@Bugatti024
@Bugatti024 2 жыл бұрын
My SUB series 4's active pickup has faulted on me twice, something just wrong going on. This was the perfect video for me, looking into where to go with passive pickup/preamp combos to replace the standard interior and pickup
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 2 жыл бұрын
The stock pickup is passive too
@Bugatti024
@Bugatti024 2 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster so should I be looking to just replace the active pre-amp? something is losing connection under the hood i’m just trying to figure it out lol. thank you for the reply! much appreciated man
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the pickup is what you should replace first, I just wanted you to know that it's passive and not active. The pre is the only active component
@davidderosi5552
@davidderosi5552 3 жыл бұрын
This is killer combination! i think i'm going to install this combination on my sterling stingray 24
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Just remember, the BQC did require some minor modification in the control cavity.
@oleran4569
@oleran4569 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes! That's the sound!
@restojon1
@restojon1 3 ай бұрын
This series has been so helpful in helping me choose a preamp for my diy stingray build. I was very close to getting the East but I think this just edges it. The only thing I don't like is the knobs, I take it they're a standard size and can be changed?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 ай бұрын
Yes you can absolutely change the knobs. Save yourself the headache and get the BTC and the mid control separate so the guts are on 2 smaller pcbs. Way easier fitment
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds great!! I need to learn how to tinker with basses I've been playing over 20 yrs and don't know anything about that
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
It's a lot of fun!
@alexskibicki2262
@alexskibicki2262 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool demo. that emg pickup sounded real nice. I personally prefer passive pickups over active ones. I do think that passive pickups sound more organic compared to active pickups. not that I have anything against active pickups. it's just that some of them tend to have weird overtones making the bass sound unnatural. it's a little difficult to explain. but some active pickups don't sound too bad at all. I also like ceramic pickups. I like how smooth and punchy they sound. and I also like alcino pickups for it's low mids focused sounds. over all, great demo.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex! I was also very surprised by the passive EMG pickup as well
@alexskibicki2262
@alexskibicki2262 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster There are amazing sounding passive pickups. emg is one of them. and bartolini is another. Speaking of which, I've recently got a set of bartolini pickups for christmas. and I am looking forward to getting them installed on my Ibanez bass.
@JBKeyz88
@JBKeyz88 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend buying a sub series and upgrading the pick ups or going for a more expensive sterling such as the ray34?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony! That's a great question. It depends on what you want. The Ray34 is close to a pre-facelift USA Stingray both in feel and tone. IMO the stock stuff there is pretty solid, a preamp upgrade may be beneficial but the pickup is nice. However, all these modded SUBs are averaging under $600 all in if you're paying full price for the SUB. That's about $200 less than a Ray34.
@robertotakahashi9950
@robertotakahashi9950 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool vid, man! Thank you.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Roberto!
@ianlovelessofficial
@ianlovelessofficial Жыл бұрын
What sort of amps do you play through when making your videos ?
@FrIgHtNiGhT71
@FrIgHtNiGhT71 11 ай бұрын
The tech I'm working with tried this mod and it didn't work with the EMG MMHZ. He said it was a bad pickup. I contacted EMG and they built me another one and told that I could keep the defective one!
@jasonhendon2022
@jasonhendon2022 3 жыл бұрын
damn dude, all of these sound really nice.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason!
@carlonschop
@carlonschop 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, i'm thinking in buying an HH Sub ray and modding it.. but i like passive basses, do you think this EMG pup would sound good in passive? :/
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, you can absolutely setup a Ray4HH with two of these passive pickups and a passive control setup. HOWEVER be aware you will lose the 5 way switch coil tapping unless you hardwire and solder the pickup wires to the switch correctly. I'm not sure if EMG make a 5 way switch that would be plug and play and have the coil tapping
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 3 жыл бұрын
YO lobster I joined your discord my first discord ever!! Ceramic Stinger here 😄🤘
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! See you on there :)
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster absolutely!! I posted my stingers on there
@FrIgHtNiGhT71
@FrIgHtNiGhT71 Жыл бұрын
The treble doesn't sound quite right to me. Is there a way to get a higher frequency with the switches on the PCB, to a more glassy tone?
@jveenbaas
@jveenbaas Жыл бұрын
i have a EKO M300, a italian rip off of the stingray. i made it quite playable, but the tone control is crap(2x volume and a weird tone control) . i want to improve the sound , but stay as cheap as possible . i am concidering buying this passive EMG pick up, and install it with the regular hardware it comes with( 1 volume and 1 tone pot) would the sound come close tou this stingray with everything in the middle?
@joek.8247
@joek.8247 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I like this one a lot...Enough that I’m looking into it more and ran into a tech question - on the EMG site looks like that 4th pot is blend for 2x pup setups. Do install instructions include single pup option that show how to skip the blend pot? The website docs don’t really address that that I can see. If my intuition is right, I’m assuming the single pup leads can just go straight into the BQC where the blend pot leads would go for a 2x pup setup? Wiring diagrams are Greek to me and never undertaken anything like this, but that all sounds intuitive enough in my head (eg blend pot turns 2x signals into 1x signal...if starting with 1x signal, just go straight where the blend would have gone...) Also, and most importantly - 🥩 + 🦞...Surf ‘n Turf bass?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! You are correct, you would just go from the vol direct into the BQC and bypass the need for the blend entirely. You can actually do this with most preamps that have a blend knob for a one pickup setup. Snip off the pot so you'll have either one or two wires coming from the preamp to the blend knob, and wire your pickup directly to those!
@quin.em.harris
@quin.em.harris 3 жыл бұрын
The EMG's are the best so far
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks froge :)
@richardmilligan1410
@richardmilligan1410 3 жыл бұрын
I like that combo best.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@olivierbellot3887
@olivierbellot3887 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lobster Very interesting, thank you for sharing. Since you’re clearly no stranger to modding sterlings, do you have a favourite? Any brand or combo of (pickup-preamp) that you installed on one of your Rays which in your opinion stands hard and shoulders above the rest? (Yes I’m thinking of upgrading the whole shebang on a ray 24 and not sure where to even start. Phoning a friend) Thank you and keep up the good work 🙌
@spaceranger6932
@spaceranger6932 7 ай бұрын
quick question! Do I have to buy pickups and preamp seperate, or do i get BQC preamp with pickups?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 7 ай бұрын
Separately
@gimmeagig
@gimmeagig 3 ай бұрын
I have a stingray with active pickup and the BTS preamp but with the treble backed up it is nowhere near as bright as yours. Do you have the highs boosted on your preamp?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 ай бұрын
You have dip switches on the pcb for 4 different treble curves! I'm using the passive pickup here too, the active might sound a bit more even across the frequency range
@rmccain99
@rmccain99 3 жыл бұрын
I have two 40 hz's sitting around and I have replaced them with an active EMG David Ellefson set. I'm gonna drop the 40dc inplace for a 40dcx. Oye Como Va!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I really want to check out the Jackson DE. The early 40 Hz were meh IMO, you did good swapping em
@verdesaturno
@verdesaturno Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to change the stock preamp?? Will the pickup work well?
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT lowend without sounding muddy at all....MAN BRO this thing keeps making me make comments.....hahaha
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@jedijudoka
@jedijudoka 3 жыл бұрын
I’m planning to do this mod thanks to you. I do have a question, though. I bought the bqc without the volume pot, can I solder the current volume pot into the pre amp?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
You can. use one of the EMG plug cables, cut and strip off one side and wire that to the volume pot, then it's still plug and play! DIY EMG pot :P
@jedijudoka
@jedijudoka 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster you are the man! Thank you!
@RohdrigoMeneses
@RohdrigoMeneses Жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobsterso if I buy this pickup can I just buy the BQC Control? Or do I need the BQC system? Because when you buy the pickup, it comes with volume and tone pot. I want to do this mod, but I’m not Shure what to buy. The BQC Control or BQC system.
@anpcm
@anpcm 3 жыл бұрын
The EMG MMHZ is wired in series from the factory, did you re-wired it to parallel?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, stock wiring. I think this is the only one in series in this comparison, though you do have the ability to wire in parallel if you wanted to solder
@anpcm
@anpcm 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster , I have this pickup, and I use stock wiring. The pickup sounds fantastic, even in passive mode.
@strannikr9497
@strannikr9497 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, installed the same combo on mt Ray4. The fit can be done without digging into the wood but will require to cut off the plug in and solder it instead to the back of the pins. No grounding point for the bridge. Knobs are crappy, one even came with stripped tread, so replaced it with $20 chrome metal. The sound maybe lacking the bottom base? Tempting me to move EMGHZ to the neck position and install original to the bridge with adding volume control. To make HH one EMG one original.
@alexanderhemming9148
@alexanderhemming9148 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a Sterling StingRay 5H and thinking about changing the electronics. Do you know if it is possible to get a 3 band eq with mid sweep and a tone knob? I'm not sure if I can use a volume/tone stack for a 3 knob or just get a new pickguard for a 4 knob (I have the version where you have to take off the pickguard to access the electronics). Any help would be greatly appreciated!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Alexander! You can absolutely do this mod with the 3 hole setup, or if you wanted you could definitely get a different pickguard and go four knob (though I'm not sure if you'd have to remove some material under the pickguard to fit it). With EMG, I believe they offer a stacked Vol/Tone for the 3 knob setup. Otherwise, you could just add the tone knob into the circuit and do Vol, Tone, Mid/Freq, Bass/Treb. Hope that helps!
@alexanderhemming9148
@alexanderhemming9148 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster Awesome thank you so much. Think I'm going to try the concentric volume/tone. I weirdly like the Sterling basses for getting that tight subbass like on a pad (definitely not the Stringray sound lol) so I think pushing the low mids and rolling off the tone and treble would sound awesome
@laserlithuanian
@laserlithuanian 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding !!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom!
@sethnicholls7861
@sethnicholls7861 3 жыл бұрын
How do you think the EMG HZ humbucker would sound w the stock Ray 34's preamp?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! I have no idea, probably good ;P. One thing to keep in mind is the pickup shape is slightly different on the Ray34 (with the built in thumb rest), so you'd need a new pickguard as well. Existing route should not be an issue.
@basshoh
@basshoh 3 жыл бұрын
We are over half way and you just said the SAME thing i typed in about MEAT on it!!...hahaha GREAT bass minds and all....and WOWIE AT THE SLAP TONE....!!...YUP we have a WINNNER...WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@stephanerazat2572
@stephanerazat2572 6 ай бұрын
Hi, is it possible to install only BCC Control with the original volume of the SUB Bass? Because the BQC System is sold with 2 plot EQ, 1 plot balance, 1 plot Volume and it's more expansive... Thanks
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 6 ай бұрын
Yes but it would be a lot more effort vs just getting the hz system
@stephanerazat2572
@stephanerazat2572 6 ай бұрын
@@LowEndLobster Finally I have ordered a EMG Pickup MMCS with the BTS System :-) Thanks
@kirtfulcher6288
@kirtfulcher6288 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm I'm thinkin' Nordy Big Blademan + this Preamp... That'll do nicely
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@johangericke1492
@johangericke1492 3 жыл бұрын
If you were to install a switch to control series, parallel or single coil in the pickup, is that wired via the preamp/can be done with that preamp or is that a direct connection to the pickup?
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! It would be wired before the preamp. EMG actually makes a push pull pot that would be plug and play with this pickup, or you could wire it up yourself with a push pull knob or a switch.
@johangericke1492
@johangericke1492 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster This is good news. I'm looking into getting a Warwick Streamer LX Jazzman 5 and may want to replace the pickups with something a bit more punchy. Since it already has the switch, I would be able to just connect it to the EMG MMHZ. This is all assuming that it will fit without routing.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@johangericke1492 yes, just make sure the switch is wired up right and you'll be good!
@yosoy3218
@yosoy3218 3 жыл бұрын
great video, 100% educational, I have a huge doubt and probably very amateur, but I always believed that the battery was for the pickup, but apparently it is for the pre amp, my doubt is, emg has musicman type pickups but active, which Does it change if one decides to put an active pill and not a passive one as in this case? I would really appreciate the answer.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great question. So the EMG MM pickups come in both active and passive flavors. It doesn't really change the process since you're already utilizing a battery here for the preamp, you just add the pickup power to the battery loop
@yosoy3218
@yosoy3218 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, so if I put an active pill I don't have to put another battery? the sound changes ?? which one do you recommend
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@yosoy3218 You can run a pickup and preamp off the same battery, or run two batteries in some situations if you want to.
@shawn9773
@shawn9773 Жыл бұрын
Hi LEL! Can you give a link to the video on the enlarging the control cavity please? Or perhaps the name of the video so that I can search? I am in a similar position and need to0 enlarge and want to see what you did. Thank you!
@bassdrivercovers3305
@bassdrivercovers3305 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been too much of a fan of EMGs but this thing here is pleasantly punchy. However, boosting the bass makes the sound too "pumped" - which is actually a typical EMG problem. That kind of sound tends to muddy the mix. Best to leave it in the neutral position. Actually, it sounds the best with bass and treble centered and mid boosted a bit.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bassdriver! I agree about the EQ, honestly my favorite EMG EQ combination (which I've done several times now) is doing a Vol-Tone-BTC 2 band stack. I like the pairing of the tone control with the 2 band over a 3 band from a practical standpoint.
@sonysoni5079
@sonysoni5079 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, as is all of them in this series. I saw that you giveaway this bass, is there a chance to make another video with this EMG guitar with same onboard preamp, same Di box, just with EMG MMTW, or EMGCS active pickups? It would be nice to see head to head shootout betwine Active vs Pasive EMGs. There is no proper review anyware on the web of this. Sory on my bad English.
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sony! That's a great idea, I think I can do something like that in the future on a similar bass :)
@pratyulmusic
@pratyulmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how this one feels like acoustic... don't know how put it , umm like how passive fenders feel, warm and full of wood tone ... this can be a great "in between bass" between a P bass and stingray tone .... gosh so many videos , my mind will have bass rush 😄
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
hahah I know what you mean! Thank you :)
@carlosjunior4384
@carlosjunior4384 4 ай бұрын
Será se com o capitador orginal e com circuito BQC EMG fica bom? Um Sterling Ray5 ativo
@TheGAMEGod_YT
@TheGAMEGod_YT 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s gooooo crustaceans 🦞!!!!!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
WOO! This one was the best combo IMO.
@Tegamal
@Tegamal 3 жыл бұрын
Does EMG make a 5 string version of this? I found an active one on their site, but not a passive
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! Great question. I just looked and they don't! What a shame, it's a great sounding pickup.
@Tegamal
@Tegamal 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster ugh, too bad.
@FrIgHtNiGhT71
@FrIgHtNiGhT71 Жыл бұрын
Could you maybe show a pic of the routing you did so that the preamp could fit in the control cavity?
@nickmeijer026
@nickmeijer026 3 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the MM-HZ and MMTW? I love this combo by the way!
@LowEndLobster
@LowEndLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Great question - the HZ is passive, and the TW is active
@nickmeijer026
@nickmeijer026 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndLobster Great! I`ll be building this combo in my sub pretty soon :)
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