Emily Maitlis: The Truth About THAT Prince Andrew Interview, BBC Exit & Future Of Journalism

This is the fourth episode of our new Leadership Series, sponsored by PwC, in which we will be diving deep into what it really takes to be a great leader.
Emily Maitlis is a journalist, presenter of the ground-breaking daily podcast The News Agents, documentary filmmaker and former BBC Newsnight anchor. She is known for her skilled and informative interviews including THAT interview for Newsnight. In this conversation, they explore what it means to be an excellent interviewer. They discuss how Emily creates a compelling narrative, how she prepares for each interview and what her main objective always is.
She shares with Jake and Damian how covering traumatic events, such as school shootings in the US, the Paris terror attacks and Grenfell, has taken its toll. They discuss how she, and the Newsnight team secured the highly significant Prince Andrew interview, and the immense pressure that came with it.
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[@carolynhaywood7701]

Horrible that we don’t think about the toll that it must take on all these journalists, the things they see and have to report on. I’ve always liked and respected this lovely lady.

[@pblossom3757]

I agree... and the fact she loves a Whippet makes me respect her even more 🥰

[@hm2011100]

What an absolute legend. Incredibly moving how she speaks about the toll of her job - she looks fit & healthy, but the “vodka & caffeine” was so honest & goes to show how hard it is to know what someone so high functioning is going through internally.

[@andreewert1925]

the Trauma of Drinking Pink Champagne...lol

[@AL-fl4jk]

@@andreewert1925the comment of someone whose never suffered a day

[@AL-fl4jk]

@@andreewert1925typical hypocritical boomer

[@dianecristina3319]

too busy saving the world got Democracy.

[@carolking6355]

Wow ! She is truly incredible. I think I was holding my breath the whole time. A good decision to leave before she had a heart attack. She appears so calm during that interview with Andrew.

[@Starboy-_-]

The interview with prince Andrew was legendary and who knows maybe one day it will be dissected in journalism schools. She is one of a kind.

[@PHlophe]

his brother's recent speech in Kenya should be dissected the same way. they use pacifying words to tone down crimes.

[@lorianacortese8571]

Prince Andrew

[@lorianacortese8571]

History

[@lorianacortese8571]

7:37 7:38

[@lorianacortese8571]

History of prince Andrew

[@jaiguru8487]

Thank God for people like Emily,professional, intellectual, charismatic,and yet still so down to earth 🌎

[@rogerflack415]

Which Emily are you talking about?

[@gc3847]

And that interview proved he s an arse . He done that , not her journalistic integrity .Well done if you didnt know. What else? ....Well it brought down an unlikable guy , who had committed NO crime here in Britain, other than be moral slime . So ,you believe Ms Maxwell ,would be doing her 20 years ,if she had proof to put him away.? Save your prayers for more important matters ,shes not that good

[@sTraYa249]

​@@gc3847Sound a bit like an appologist for a man happy to have vulnerable teenager's trafficked around for his carnal desires. Is that you Andrew?

[@Threemore650]

@@rogerflack415 Vodka and Caffeine. What a role model! Perfect for the era.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

🙌🙌

[@anna3046]

I really appreciate her honesty!

[@angelaglanville9377]

What a difference from the calm soft spoken journalist who interviewed Prince Andrew and the hard bitten journalist in this interview. She should win an Oscar!

[@anonnymous4684]

I've been impressed by Maitlis for as long as she's been at the BBC. She really is the consummate professional, and yet she somehow has an almost unflappable air about her. She's like a swan where she calmly glides along, but there's obviously a lot of work happening beneath the waterline, that we don't see. A very inspiring person.

[@Threemore650]

‘Vodka and caffeine.’

[@anonnymous4684]

@@Threemore650 Your point...?

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

👏👏👏

[@robertely686]

Like a swan as she graciously repeats anti Semitic slurs against people she doesn't agree with.

[@lindyashford7744]

@@robertely686She is Jewish.

[@mrgordy1980]

Emily is like music to my ears. She’s a complete professional

[@--legion]

Get over your adolescent crush.. Her 'music' is discordant.

[@mrgordy1980]

@@--legion spoken like a male Karen. Well done 👍🏼

[@eltontonge4186]

yeah she does look like a pro' a lil scraggy for muh liking though

[@yogithashetty2587]

Brilliant interview with Prince Andrew - thanks to EMILY 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Interview of the century!

[@70s80sVintage]

She is immensely professional and this interview was a piece of masterwork!!!! Congrats, Emily! What a star you are!

[@marycahill546]

What struck me most about her interview with Prince Andrew was her calmness, and her great listening skills. Sure. she had her agenda and the questions she wanted to ask, but she also listened and responded appropriately to what Prince Andrew said.

[@Camille_Anderson]

If she had reacted appropriately, she'd have slapped randy Andy like we all want to!!! Lol! 😂😂😂💩🤡💩🤡

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

👏👏

[@richardmurphy4520]

And graciously and majestically let him do himself up like a kipper. What a prize c **t he most certainly is.

[@IanDouglas-wj4je]

She interviewed a man with a sub 50 iq, it was a form of child abuse

[@PHlophe]

i think Gayle King , Oprah and Emily are the few people that can keep their sang froid like this.

[@Paul-dv4dr]

I think this is the first time I've seen Emily interviewed. A very impressive lady.

[@samansiddiquie1902]

What a brilliant honest conversation. She is so damn honest about handling pressure, work related stress, dealing with a big project/assignment, work life balance, mental health challenges due to a demanding career. I feel so inspired. Even a veteran like her goes through that.

[@sistagalsistagal8136]

Emily's interview was the masterpiece of the century. Imagine doing an interview that would land you being the most sought out person to be interviewed. The all wise all encompassing Andy came unstuck by another bold and brave woman of substance. Tooshay Emily and Ms Giuffre 😊.

[@vinzenzvega4445]

Touché

[@johndean958]

I am so glad I listened to her explaining how her mindset works and can struggle making the right decisions in lives, always condidering others. I think she is absolutely amazing. I am a fan.What a beautiful person. So thoughtful and with a clear helpful way to help us all in her revealing how we can all relate to life. We can all use her helpful hints in all aspects of our lives. Thankyou. John (Australia)

[@kimoakes1503]

What a brilliant interview. Emily, is clever, funny, honest and such a great person

[@ShootingStar_JB]

She's utterly brilliant. I could listen to her for hours. This is a culturally and historically disruptive human being in the most complementary way possible.

[@sakurathornsickle5681]

From the beginning such great advice - I come back whenever I’m struggling with work and it’s so soothing to hear from someone as successful as her and see how she struggles with the same things we all do ❤

[@davidadams3408]

The Newsagents podcast she now does is excellent, definitely worth forty minutes of anyones day.

[@Pampilici]

Thank you, have immediately subscribed. I really like her 😊👍

[@R_Hoefer]

28:59 - "I was almost too prepared-- but I was like 'I might spill coffee, I might spill tea, I might be sick!'..... (So what did you do to get out of that state?) .... "I hid in the loo" 29:26 - "A good interview is made in the 5 minutes silence that you spend on your own beforehand. I think that is Golden Time"

[@rachelpinder3680]

What a wonderful woman! You can only perceive this Interview as honest, so down to earth, you can feel it..❤

[@samilede]

I love her honesty; it sounds as if there have been plenty of days, months, and years when it's been so tough for her. Especially with a family, and trying to balance a career with being a mum and wife. I'm no where near the high performer she is, but I won't feel a failure now on the days I struggle if someone as accomplished and skilled as Emily needed coffee and vodka to get by and sometimes hid in toilets!

[@jennybrandt5188]

She was having quiet time so she would be away from all the distractions and focus during the interview.

[@DJNocturna]

Emily was the perfect journalist for that legendary interview with Prince Andrew. She is a virgo, ruled by the god Mercury- no wonder she is bright, a quick and deep thinker ! A good interviewer does a lot of research and meticulously builds the structure of the narrative. Congratulations to Emily on the successful interview with Prince Andrew ! Thank you for interviewing her - she deserves it ! Bravo !

[@Pt-11]

I think it was brave of her to share her thoughts about “how many”, speaking of victims in Paris. We have all become desensitized and her moment of “this is not normal” was great.

[@shelley2he844]

Emily's candour is so refreshing ❤ fantastic interview. Brilliant insights. Real honesty. The way she dealt with prince Andrew was masterful. Masterful.

[@VAPIDISM]

Excellent, very insightful to hear from her perspective and she is so down to earth. No media ego with her.

[@chappellroseholt5740]

Good evening from the beautiful SF Bay Area. I just watched the Scoop last night and loved it. I have a special place in my heart for journalists. As a child in the 50's & 60's we had so many superb ones to look up to. Emily is new to me and I am as impressed as ever I was with Dan Rather or Walter Cronkite. The movie featured so many of my favorite British actors that is really why I watched it at first. Rufus Sewel, Keely Hawes, Gillian Anderson, etc., fantastic. Thank you.

[@_tiramisu]

Brilliant interview and such an inspiring woman!

[@ryang790]

" Unbecoming?? He was a sex offender.." Emily had that killer line with equal destain. Il always remember that...

[@richardmurphy4520]

VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( NOT MY KING ! )

[@ryang790]

@@richardmurphy4520 what kind of sales pitch is that my friend lol. What's Charles being king got to do with Epstein Conning and tempting his Burke of a brother? Charles is alright 👍

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@ryang790 Why did King Charles buy convicted multi child rapist bishop Rev. Peter Ball a house in London after he released from prison ?. Two princes, two paedophiles, what are the odds ?.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@ryang790 p.s. Your retort is the archetypal apologetic for royalty drivel we,ve come to expect on lickspittle sites like this. To say that Epstein encouraged or coaxed " poor innocent diddums Nonce Andrew" is frankly risible and an insult to both my and other folks intelligence. Do you think Andrews " mummy " the late greedy Betty felt he had been led astray by Epstein when she had to dip into her own ill gotten gains to the tune of £12 million pounds to bail the evil little royal shite out at the court in U.S. ?.

[@socillizt4life]

@@ryang790 What Charles are you talking about ? The Charles who was a very close personal friend of Jimmy Saville? He was so tight with Charlie (& he was just as tight with Phillip aswell JFTR) that Charlie boy literally chose Jimmy Saville as a “marriage councillor” between him & Dianna & this was by the time, when all those in the know knew exactly what Jimmy was all about,but because he had all of these powerful friends in the Tory government of the time & the Royal family, he was literally untouchable while alive.

[@katsinthecradle89]

What really struck me about this lady is the power of mothers and for her, the challenge of being a working mother in the media who needs to work her family into her extremely busy working life. Respect.

[@Threemore650]

Vodka and caffeine? Lucky kids.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

👏🙌

[@rolandhawken6628]

lol

[@pleun315]

She deserves an Oscar, Grammy and an Emmy ☝️ she is an angel, send from above to stop the darkness....Emily is the best of the best, that interview was awesome and she nailed him, thank you for that ❤❤❤

[@alexanderh9878]

It's obvious she was fair, not pushy, and gave him the opportunity to present a cleaner perspective. He went down on his own.

[@irenedemarco1354]

She is awesome... no wonder Andrew revealed himself... Emilys self discipline and structure held her in good stead... Glad i listened...

[@montyollie]

Maitlis' reaction to "a straightforward shooting weekend" was quite possibly the second best moment of the whole interview (the first, of course, being the "unbecoming" remark). Damn, she was able to say straightfaced what we were all thinking!!

[@brendakauffman2222]

Yet she was so calm and respectful in all the questions. What she refused to do is to just let go of a question when he dodged it. She kept pressing, but in a respectful, gentle way.

[@stevenponte6655]

I moved to London in 2005 and seeing I had to for this ridiculous thing called a tv licence I thought I’m bloody well watching tv!! She was hosting mornings I think, then I would see her on the news, newsnight. Emily became a big part of my English experience. Her and The Killers ;)

[@neenaj365]

She has all my respect. She’s right. The Elon Musk interview and the Tate I interview were both awful, because the interviewers didn’t actually listen and pay proper attention to any of the replies to their questions. No real dialogue.

[@fredinabun1986]

The lady who done the Tate one was a disgrace and should be sacked. All her replies were " so your saying " and then hit him with a stupid line

[@chas638]

@fredinabun1986 You must have watched a different interview. Lucy Williamson, competently outwitted Tate with credible quotes from police and charitable organisations with concerns about his effect on young people. Tate is entitled as the accused to be treated fairly by the justice system and for journalists to expose the truth of accusations.

[@Amanda062566]

I love her honesty! She is very strong fir admitting to things she has done or said. Thanks for posting and your work in putting this together because I would have missed it completely. 😮

[@ladybee4564]

Fabulous journalist and a credit to all of her hard work, determination and empathy that has made her stand head and shoulders above everyone else. Such a treat to hear about Emily as a person and how she ticks

[@adellittle3547]

I’ve just found your brilliant Podcast and subscribed. 😊 In my opinion Emily is so good at her job. The interview with Prince Andrew, is probably the most important interview in decades.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

Thanks so much 🙏🙏

[@davidstephens106]

It was such a revealing interview in a world where interviews are about the interviewer probing with loaded questions and failure to respond by interviewees. This worked because Andrew was just allowed to talk. We got to observe his full body language (not hidden behind a desk) and his words revealed his innate sense of entitlement and disconnect with the norms of the real world. These didn’t provide hard evidence of guilt but definitely made it crystal clear that the way he sees the world and his warped sense of honour (amongst his circle) meant he was more than capable of doing what he is accused of, possibly without any realisation that those things are wrong.

[@mirgrande7683]

A True Lady of Integrity and Professionalism. God bless her !!!!

[@SpiceAndSauce]

The face she makes when she asks "Unbecoming? He was a sex offender".Legend.

[@Nina_Rihs]

I love this sequence so much 😂 sooo authentic - seems like you can actually see all of these different emotions floating through her head so fast that she just couldn’t stop blurting out: “UNNNBECUMMMMING ?!“ like: “seriously?!“ also his devotional excuses are simply priceless 🙈🤣 he was offered the opportunity to present himself regretting, empathizing with the victims and move into the right direction to restore his image but he crashed this car with high speed into the palace walls….Emily was the real deal and will be remembered for her brilliant performance 👍🏻

[@love777jets]

So glad I happened onto this. Emily story was captivating, intelligent, professional, and well-spoken.

[@mikkibubble4711]

I enjoyed this, thanks for uploading !

[@julielevinge266]

Thank you for telling the absolute truth. I’m on the left but ♥️my country & find it very hard to bare what’s happening today. Whatever happened to fairness & equality, real things we were proud of? Thank you for putting my feeling in such a perfectly articulate manner. ✊☮️♥️

[@SteveTrimmer]

I always hoped that beneath that cool, calm, professional exterior was a normal, down-to-earth human being. Captivating, just like her journalism.

[@ayysweetstea9339]

She seems like a humble lady!.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

🙏🙌

[@teamcoldblac8775]

My favourite interview with Emily was the one she held with Anthony Scaramuchi - the 11 day director of White House communications. Surprised she didn’t mention that

[@florisvandoorn1146]

Gosh that was some interview!

[@gp9992]

The Mooch is now a semi regular interviewee on News Agents. She builds relationships. Such class @@florisvandoorn1146

[@vwmusicplaylist1935]

Well worth reading her autobiography. She has so many interesting stories to tell. I wish she would write an updated version.

[@simpaticaism]

So what did she say that was so interesting in this utterly boring interview .

[@jess4709]

Second this! Great book

[@richardmurphy4520]

VOTE REPUBLIC UK ( NOT MY KING ! )

[@alisonbrown5891]

So the point of this was what?

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@alisonbrown5891 Vote REPUBLIC UK Graham Smith Citizen NOT Subject.

[@VeraHull1966]

Absolutely fantastic - Emily is such an articulate woman. She’s fantastic.

[@peterthelarge5110]

A great woman, greetings from Sweden

[@HereForTheStories]

What an absolute inspiration. Really enjoyed this. If only we had more role models like this in the public eye.

[@katylaurent7097]

Very enjoyable lady to watch. She’s just spot on with the words she uses to say and a little sense of humor goes a long way.

[@StMeadMary]

Amazing woman! Just wow!! Makes me think she had nowhere to ascend to at BBC. Sad I used to hold it in such high regard but the recent years/ revelations have put an indelible stain on its character..

[@sivaschuck]

Came here after watching Scoop. What an interview!

[@gp9992]

She's so charismatic, clever and relatable. But also did you see her shoes!? Fabulous

[@chezceleste]

Great interview...I always felt a bit guilty about leaving parties without saying goodbye but now I feel vindicated.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

🙌🙌🙌

[@streamingscreens9931]

Brilliant interview team. Emily is a legacy.

[@qossl6727]

What an interesting and surprisingly personal interview, thank you very much!

[@carinvandenheever1370]

Incredible interview. Good interviewers, legendary interviewee - it was bound to be good!

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

Thanks so much 🙏🙌

[@jell6551]

Love Em, a real national treasure

[@nickfosterxx]

Amazingly open and honest from Emily. I get a very paradoxical, slightly shameful 'Achievement Unlocked' feeling. Will pay even closer attention to The Newsagents, if that's possible.

[@jimmyl324]

What a magnificent job she did in that interview. Genius.

[@backto-il9ne]

Love her and her new gig at the News Agents. An intelligent, charismatic and astute beauty.

[@leilanilea]

Bless your heart. It’s so understandable but so very tough. We owe you a huge thank you and totally applaud you.

[@billdunne5266]

absoutely great interview.

[@julierogers1155]

Enjoyed this discussion immensely. Shared a couple of Emily's thoughts with a friend.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

🙏👏

[@aneetkaur9924]

BBC journalists who interviewed Elon Musk and Andrew Tate were not prepared enough. why?

[@jagoisvara8178]

Watch the interviews they owned by Elon and Tate

[@preetidhende5778]

Very insightful. Thank you high performance team for this work.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

Thanks so much for your response 🙏🙌

[@evotorentals]

of course it took its toll. It was a terrible existence with no sleep, lots of business travel and no time for herself

[@isobelleloveday6458]

She’s amazing wow! So inspiring

[@madheremadthere4616]

This woman is brilliant. I love her.

[@ahmedd320]

This interview is hilarious. Interviewer expecting some profound and deep answer relating to high performance when asked about what kept her going. Her answer, "caffeine and vodka" 😅😅

[@stevenponte6655]

And I’m thinking hey I do that and I’m not a high performer!!

[@AlexysB]

I adore Emily!!! Especially after the way she shook up Marjorie Taylor Greene 🤣 She's a credit to fantastic journalism. 😍

[@TraceyMacDonald-]

She is the best interviewer ever

[@heldofhil7]

This interview is spellbinding, so engaging!

[@gatewaytouae]

An absolutely brilliant, insightful and inspiring interview. Thank you.

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

Thank you 🙏

[@sanahaider6227]

She is so relatable ❤

[@carolking6355]

….and we sit back in a comfortable chair, watching and having a snack and thinking how interesting, I’m just going to put the jug on. We would never imagine what trauma this wonderful, clever, brilliant woman was putting herself through. How guilty I feel. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

Are you taking the p..s?

[@LouieAblett]

What. A. Guest. 👏🏼👏🏼

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

🙌👏

[@omarianno]

28:36 this part is so interesting - I remember te @thebehaviorpanel commenting of the choice of Emily's jacket (that its not a coincidence)

[@margarethedges8549]

What a great interview.....so so interesting...loved it...

[@Shineon83]

Hard to believe she worked @ BBC for 20 yrs….She looks FABULOUS! She really has the whole package : looks, intellect, talent & charisma….

[@loiba]

I really appreciate this.

[@wifi2118]

I hope Emily saw the 4 of the world's top Body Language Experts, 3 U.S and 1 Brit's take on her interview with Andrew. They had so much respect for her they were hugely complimentary about her interviewing skills. Here is the link to their dissection of that interview kzbin.info/www/bejne/hne8hXWDm7ukqJI

[@tonyalmond8073]

You know what I’m gonna say you know ! You know your a very nice person

[@zoep.2891]

She's inspiring and has more class, than Prince Andrew. It's not about into which family you are born (royalty or not), but who you are as a person.

[@SimonAckerman]

I love Emily’s style, she always looks good in what she wears.

[@Louielinguini]

End of Reporting Journalism: Since late 1970’s the story began gradually disappearing; centrality of journalist emerging. The two have melded completely into entertainment.

[@terrylynn7396]

She is Smart Sexy Professional Sweet n we need a Thousand more just like her!!!❤❤❤❤ God Bless all Journalists!!! Especially...Julian Assange!!😇😇

[@UseYourEarsBro]

She's quality her. Her opening line about what it is to be high performance is spot on

[@ejkalegal3145]

17:19 is where the Prince Andrew bit starts.

[@elliemaria6000]

Thank you 😊

[@sarahsue42]

Exceptional interview

[@maureenrhysjones4643]

Journalists of that calibre are like HP racing cars, there is a limited amount of time that they can go full throttle. I wish her the best. God knows we need good journalists!

[@deborahbrentnall2019]

Wow!! What a great interview.

[@Hertfordshire247]

Ohhh, my heart bleads for Matlis, it really does.

[@richwearz]

Bleads?

[@Ozymandi_as]

Matlis?

[@NoName-cu4gr]

...stick to drowning yourself in GBN sewage.

[@bogusmogus9551]

If you knew what the BBC were paying her that would make your blood clot

[@user-fq8rs7rz3i]

Yeah, woe is me.

[@exxicle]

The classic for me, was the Pizza Express Woking TripAdvisor reviews that followed after the interview aired

[@egregal344]

Missed this- would you explain? Thanks!

[@Appetite4Rose]

Work/life balance is very important… employers should be responsible for monitoring this and supporting their employees to achieve this

[@nicolagraham1678]

I disagree. Surely one must take responsibility for oneself.......

[@jokehokke283]

I disagree on your opinion. Both have a responsibility.

[@edgale1655]

Very impressive lady. Was not afraid to admit her vulnerabilities. I don't think I would want her to interview me.

[@LordJimUSA]

Oh edgale. You are a naughty boy!