Eminem - Revival - First Time Hearing And Suffering

[@trashhuman3977]

Em: "Real tits are still fun, but everyone knows fake tits are still better than real ones" Jon: "What's happening?" Literally my exact reaction

[@SpaceMafiaBR]

Hello fello human

[@louisdnd934]

Hahaha this killed me

[@AngelRivera-de1lq]

0:31 Walk on Water 3:51 Believe 7:22 Chloraseptic 9:53 Untouchable 13:32 River 15:33 Remind Me 17:48 Revival Interlude 18:08 Like Home 20:07 Bad Husband 22:30 Tragic Endings 23:52 Framed 25:36 Nowhere 27:49 Heat 29:17 Offended 31:02 Need Me 32:10 In Your Head 33:19 Castle 34:40 Arose

[@epixstarxxv]

the fact that u had to hear every song to make this is insane 😭😭 u a soldier for going through hell and back hahaha

[@MK-sk9zq]

​you are corny

[@philogamer743]

I see you're a Big Pun fan. Respect

[@AngelRivera-de1lq]

@@philogamer743 thanks bro, not 2 many know of the legend

[@MrMaddzkillz]

@@AngelRivera-de1lq80’s rap babies know about Pun. What a legendary first album 🔥

[@anthonysirico3322]

crazy how the last 2 songs r top 20 em songs but r stuck on this album

[@bullit4170]

Honestly. As far as two track pairings go Castle and Arose are so so incredible

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

Yeah Castle is fucking ridiculous and the fact it comes after stuff like FRAAAAAAAAMMEEEED and Remind Me is so funny

[@djoctavio1234]

I feel like that's the problem people have with em is there isn't a reason like mockingbird to be stuck with puke he puts good songs in bad albums

[@mawangshallhang]

The interlude is really pretty and it’s quite sad, it was a female artist who emailed in part of a song for Em, she’d always wanted to work with him. But it was never shown to him, she became ill and eventually died and then Em finally saw and heard the part she had sent years before and used that for the Revival interlude

[@HEYitzED]

Her one and only album which is “Alice and the Glass Lake - Chimaera” is amazing. Check it out if you haven’t.

[@TheDiamondSlayer1]

That's really gorgeous, and good on Em for including it. But it loses all its weight following something like remind me, or being in this album. They could have used that so much better. It's a gorgeous interlude but it sounds so tacked on its funny

[@angelo285]

That flow he developed is something

[@BL4DESS]

Yeahh… such a boring ass cadence… it makes every song sound so boring. What was he thinking when he started that? I mean it sounded good in mmlp2 but revival didn’t do it justice

[@Aiden_Baars]

@@BL4DESSmy theory is that it has to do with Eminem’s extremely neurodivergent brain. I think because of that he tends to get locked into certain sounds periodically like when he did accents or started to yell on recovery and recently the really bad cadence. I think the reason why this part of Eminem was less prevalent early on is because he did drugs and idk if you’ve done drugs before but they make your ideas more fresh and less redundant if that makes any sense? Until you do too many lol

[@BL4DESS]

@@Aiden_Baars you’re right on it. I definitely don’t want him to relapse so maybe i’ll except it. I loved relapse and recovery alot though

[@Aiden_Baars]

@@BL4DESS yeah if it takes Eminem not making good as music as he used to, to make him sober and more happy then it’s good

[@michaelsilvestri202]

'Arose' really stayed with me as I lost my dad at a similar time this album came out.

[@arifortyfive5867]

Castle and Arose were 2 of the deepest, imo best written songs he has ever made.

[@PatM8]

Seriously I’m glad to see someone else with the same thoughts as me, it’s such a shame you have to get through the rest of the album to get to those two gems

[@robintetris]

it doesn't matter bc the rest of the album is so ass, before getting to castle and arose you have 16 tracks of ass

[@lynnkingpin]

listen to more music my guy

[@Kumingaaa]

lmao

[@UnseenAsyluM209]

Meh

[@CloudyYote]

when this came out in late 2017, i was 13 and actually enjoyed this record. however, im proud to say i have fully recovered from whatever ear disease i had at the time

[@Ryansk2003]

Same

[@dewagod6532]

try to look cool did you

[@brianodoyo3622]

​@@dewagod6532 he's a kid

[@sumo._]

I mean, I enjoyed Recovery a lot when I was 13 back in 2010, a lot of us have that Em phase

[@treyjordan1284]

​@@dewagod6532 he grew up. maybe you should too.

[@Aiden_Baars]

⁠my theory for Eminems really bad cadence in his flow recently is that it has to do with Eminem’s extremely neurodivergent brain. I think because of that he tends to get locked into certain sounds periodically like when he did accents or started to yell on recovery and recently the really bad cadence. I think the reason why this part of Eminem was less prevalent early on is because he did drugs and idk how many of yall reading this have done drugs but they they make your ideas more fresh and less redundant if that makes any sense?

[@BrooksOrlando]

I agree

[@VoidTboi]

To me it's just feels like he's trying to experiment I feel like his four first albums sound about the same, but ever since relapse every single of his albums are very unique and different, and honestly, I rock with it

[@MoltandMigrate]

I don't understand how someone with Em's level of resources and connections can release something that is produced so messily.

[@stefandesert]

I can only imagine there must've been a lot of yesmen around..

[@XekTOr89]

@@stefandesert In an interview Em said even Dre was surprised or confused by the hate the album got, so you know for a fact people are yes men if Dre is too afraid to be honest. But honestly I did love the MTBMB albums (for the most part) so for me is on the right path.

[@littled5986]

What made this album so bad for me was he didn’t release an album for 5 years and then he came back with this 😭

[@genesisosuna]

Yeah you had to be there when this released to experience how truly bad this was.

[@azraelfaust487]

and coming after MMLP2 and ShadyXV, you would have expected a masterpiece

[@aryamazandarani6373]

@@azraelfaust487 MMLP2 was amazing and Shady XV had some all-time great verses from Eminem, so I was shocked to say the least when I heard Revival the night it dropped. 5 years later and I still like a lot of the album, but a lot of it is just outright bad when it comes to his groggy voice, weird flows, bad production, or awkward sounding mixing

[@keithaunn]

@@aryamazandarani6373 mmlp2 was already mid

[@zcany]

3*

[@dirtykaks9722]

Ironically the album ends with a toilet flushing

[@sistah_fistahs_antichrist]

Fantano made this joke alr

[@dirtykaks9722]

@@sistah_fistahs_antichrist next level hater

[@Abad0n10]

@@dirtykaks9722 atleast he is not fake

[@slomo6054]

yes but also ironically the album has the best ending out of any eminem album

[@juju-vl7oj]

This album is a masterpiece of shit.

[@genesisosuna]

The face palm in the album cover is so fitting. Also you know an album is bad when Jon does the stank face but not because the song is good lmao.

[@foefafee]

Man this reaction really captures the way this album just slowly but surely beats the joy out of the listener. The cumulative weight of all awkward lines, stutter flows, and bad flips of classic songs really just start to overpower any good parts. Shoutout to JD for pushing through!

[@newjjjjj927]

@@Iamtylerleeget off your knees bro

[@Tre4rmCLTproductions]

As a black person. I appreciate em’s attempt on untouchable. The fact he put it on the album and shipped it. He said something didn’t stay silent and used his platform to bring more attention to the issues warms my soul. It is simplistic. The rest of the album is still not good. Some people won’t listen to the true issues of police brutality but no one else would

[@LarrySwishamane]

iFelt that way about his verse at hip hop awards than iDid the album. Using that platform, iMean, cmon…what says platform more than center stage at an awards show? Plus, uRemember what was dominating “headlines” just prior to the album dropping? I’ll give u hint: it involved another white guy universally recognized as GOAT w/ a in a “field” that’s predominantly black? Same field he & teammates & colleagues thru out the country are being persecuted & threaten behind author of individual’s hat is just casually sitting in his locker? At time & opportunity where his alliance (to his peers) would be appreciated the most? Who was the biggest culprit of manufacturing a false narrative that NFL protests/social Justice were (wait for it)….. unPatriotic? So, with that being the prelude & that being the album cover was all leading up into a song like untouchable…. Lemme put it this way, I was embarrassed for him

[@AndrewLeonard46]

The media actually makes police brutality worse than it is. Still not okay, but it’s completely blown out of proportion

[@dfredankey]

@@AndrewLeonard46 the stats show it’s disproportionate and they’re to be held higher than us civilians

[@AndrewLeonard46]

@@dfredankeywrong. If you were really worried about black lives you’d talk about gang violence that kills thousands and thousands of African Americans every year. But no you’d rather put the blame on someone else.

[@AndrewLeonard46]

@@dfredankey also, statistically they commit more crimes than any other race in the us. So they deal with cops more often than any other race. And the police kills online also count when civilians shoot at cops and then get killed.

[@sleep6837]

My respect for you cannot be overstated. This is a special hell for fans of rap. R.I.P. John

[@ryanmitchell2774]

It’s better than any music many artists have made

[@sleep6837]

@@ryanmitchell2774 least delusional Eminem fan

[@zcany]

@@sleep6837 He poured a lot more heart into this Album than you think. Talking about his own death. His entire career and where he was at that point, aswell as real life issues. Calling it bad is one thing but saying its bad for the entire culture is too much. Eminem has done a lot thats underappreciated

[@sleep6837]

@@zcany I'm not saying his sentiment wasn't bad, but Em's ability to execute his intentions musically has gone waaaaaay down over time. This is generally seen as one of the worst rap albums of the past few years. Not saying it's bad at its core, but it's annoying, long and full of corny bars

[@XekTOr89]

@@sleep6837 Half the album is great, the other half is terrible, overall it's not as bad as people claim.

[@mantojsingh234]

Now THIS is the most album of all time!

[@ryanmitchell2774]

Exactly, it’s so good I love it

[@aruchill]

Nice joke

[@SRSafford]

I couldn’t get through this album myself, but watching your reaction made the suffering easier. Thank you Jon

[@SRSafford]

@TYLER what a well thought out conclusion

[@Ivand-b2u]

@@Iamtylerlee how bout stop assuming what ppl listen to and just accept that this album is dogshit. You’re like every other em stan

[@Scorpion-kw3gt]

@TYLER are you okay

[@t-acejuice2077]

Hearing your thoughts on this, I understand a big part of the hate being justified. This is like a "guilty pleasure" to me, as an album of his that I listen the most; despite not being in my Top 5. Framed is my favorite song in the album because of the beat and Relapse callback, then Arose, so much feels in it. then In Your Head, the 2nd Verse is my favorite of the album. So yeah, to each their own opinion about this

[@TheDiamondSlayer1]

Yeah im the same. I don't think it's good but I go back to it and have fun so I want to defend it haha.

[@kirby063]

I fucking love this album

[@CragusMaximus]

Eminem amazes me how he can write some of the best songs of all time and also the worst noises on my ears😂

[@OuTSMOKE]

I really wish he'd re-record Believe. It's my favorite track from him, ever, but yeah your points are valid, it's pooly mixed and mastered.

[@Titleist24]

I can’t believe somebody’s favorite Eminem song is Believe

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

​@@Titleist24I liked offended without the bad hook

[@andreabertazzoli7695]

Eminem hasn't lost the ability to make good music but he has definitely lost the ability to tell good music from bad music

[@kisukami1629]

This sums it up nicely. He just needs a push in the right direction in terms of musicality

[@TeamKP1]

its been 12 years man its a wrap

[@kisukami1629]

@@TeamKP1 12 years since what?

[@TeamKP1]

@@kisukami1629 since he dropped a good album

[@kisukami1629]

@@TeamKP1 MTBMB was pretty exceptional in my eyes

[@ethanthepogman]

Revival is like the cod: infinite warfare of eminems discography

[@ICDemons]

Actually a pretty good way of putting it it is definitely his worst album but I still wouldn’t say it’s inherently bad I like at least 7 songs on it and that’s gotta count for something

[@ICDemons]

@@xoseeghosts there’s noway you publicly said that

[@smaaron_j_46]

It’s like the Mortal Kombat: Annihilation to Mortal Kombat’s Recovery

[@tzuki6249]

The amount of hate revival got was insane. I still listen to it when i get an itch for it, but it aint no way as bad as people made it out to be.

[@hotwheelz3643]

Fr I personally gave it as like a 5.5/10 tbh some good songs but some bad songs

[@Plaguestray]

It is absolutely garbage, especially for Eminem standards when it comes to his albums

[@stormzmusix]

Exactly! Anybody who doesn't like Revival are A) either didn't understand ANYTHING AT ALL or B) Just sticking to the popular opinion without even listening properly

[@tysmith6925]

Thanks for the chuckles. Your pain was certainly entertaining.

[@mr.j9103]

I respect the message but what made this album absolutely hilarious is that Eminem….was deadass serious rapping some of these bars😂

[@stankyo]

The amount of times I sighed watching this damn video. I pirated this album early when it leaked before school, this single handedly introduced me to the idea that an album could be bad. I remember sitting there after finishing it just stunned. I listened to it over all night hoping it would grow on me and it never did.

[@dacannon7593kj]

Untouchable is the most misunderstood song of all time… the concept went straight over everyone’s head

[@iammayyz]

concept doesn't matter if it sonically doesn't sound good

[@haydeng3541]

What the hell are you talking about about? It brutally beats you over the head with the message. There's nothing subtle about the concept, the song is just fucking awful

[@MWNolan]

Whenever I hear this album I can only think of the guy who does the Eminem impression on Tik Tok. Eminem became a caricature of himself

[@kkulturen]

Literally only thing that goes through my head

[@DictateTempo]

It's a terrible album, by far his worse. It's nice to see the recognition for Castle and Arose though. Despite Revival's (many) issues, those two tracks are Eminem classics imo. Such an excellently executed concept, at least Revival gave us those. Walk on Water is another highlight for me.

[@ashwink7644]

30:33 Actually, yes. Not the rest of the album, but Offended has an incredible wordplay and catent changes that can't be found in other songs. It is actually my no 2 favourite Em track after Alfred's theme from Music to be murdered by Side B. I would add other tracks like Walk on Water, River, Bad Husband, Framed, Castle, and Arose. I really like Walk on Water and Framed. The thing is, when anyone tries to listen the whole album for the first time one song after the other, it feels awful because of conceptual repetition and underwhelming music production. Try breaking down the wordplay, catents, rhyme schemes in Offended.

[@miner1430]

brother who cares about word play 😂😂

[@grunkfussthefunnyclown4038]

​@@miner1430any lyrical rap enjoyer? Like what?

[@Plaguestray]

The wordplay means fuck all when the songs have other parts about them that are complete trash and make them unlistenable

[@thusano2]

The "like Home melody" sounds like a direct rip-off of Regina Spektor's Human of the Year bridge/interlude if I'm not mistaken. That sounds super familiar.

[@MichaelEscobar-k3u]

Tbh I don’t see how anyone dislikes the album, I love every single song he’s put out ngl, I listen to Em everyday 🙏

[@romerovision]

In California, mostly in LA and the surrounding areas, people wear khakis with creases in them ironed in with starch. This, combined with converses or Chuck Taylors, and flannel shirts combine to make the signature LA gang-culture outfit. That’s why pressure, increases (in creases) like khakis.

[@aeon4901]

I like a couple songs from this record, namely Believe, Chloraseptic, Framed (I don't mind the hook), Offended (Minus The Hook), Castle and Arose.

[@DonnyS997]

You need new ears if Chloraseptic is a good song to you lol

[@soulless770]

any time I think this album wasn't THAT bad, all I need to do is play 1 song off it to remember

[@carlukiio]

My brain completely removed this album from existence

[@dacannon7593kj]

I always liked this record… it was very satisfying for his fans who are invested In his personal story

[@blexible4894]

Exactly

[@yesmyninja6850]

yep so people like this reactor can stay far away from it and doesn‘t have to pretend to be a fan for clicks

[@Plaguestray]

Yeah you know the actual music itself across the album was complete garbage but at least the fans could enjoy his personal stories

[@malotielemans3863]

LMAO the title, I feel you, I'm a big EM fan but this album (production wise, cause that's its main problem) I just can't it's impossible to listen to, except Castle and Arose which are gems on their own. SO SO GLAD Em came back with Kamikaze and especially MTBMB A side and B side which are absolute fire and shows why he is still the GOAT of rap even past 50 YO.

[@caleblandes9715]

I have to admit, I don’t think Revival is Em’s worst album. It’s not his best by any means, but I really enjoy songs like River, Bad Husband, Tragic Endings, Framed, and Need Me. I know there are a few questionable songs but I don’t let them define the entire album. I truly don’t understand why Revival gets so much hate

[@therealslimsonny]

What is the em's worst album then? Revival is the worst.

[@caleblandes9715]

@@therealslimsonny personally I’d say Music to be Murdered By: Side A is the worst. That one just feels kinda boring to me, most songs feel like he’s rapping just for the purpose of rapping

[@therealslimsonny]

@@caleblandes9715 Dont do drugs. Flows and beats are insane on this album even if I prefer the Side B.

[@BrooksOrlando]

@@therealslimsonnyI agree. I think Jon is right too the mixing on this is what makes it horrible. Music itself isn’t great for Em’s standards, but he sounds off. Songs like River are corny. It’s 1 thing for him to collaborate with Rihanna, but Ed Sheeran? Haha. He seems like a nice guy. Have nothing wrong with him. But Em’s whole brand was based on hating mainstream acts (*NSYNC, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, etc). To come back yrs later and do a feature with basically Gen z’s version of them is kinda weak. I love Em too, but just being honest. I’m moderate politically too, but 1 against Trump was so forced and corny as well. Like I said, you throw in all that with god awful production and it makes it by far his worst album. I’d prob say his 2nd worst is Encore, but there is a pretty decent gap. Mockingbird, Toy Soldiers were on it and stupid songs like Ass Like that can be listened too in a joking manner. There’s just nothing enjoyable about this.

[@therealslimsonny]

@@BrooksOrlando FACTS. I appreciate that!!! Liked ur answer bro, thank you!!!

[@JDS_]

walk on water, believe, River, Bad husband, In your Head, Castle, Arose. The rest could have never been made for all I care. Wish he just made an EP

[@dcs2162]

I do in fact listen to Offended often and enjoy it, lol ("I hope you offended!"). And I might be the only one but I also enjoy both Remind Me and Heat...😅mostly just how ridiculous they are and not to be taken seriously. Framed is probably my favourite from the album, I like the hook and production and feel its one of the best executed/immersive ideas of the record. But yeah don't care too much for the pop-singy ones.

[@sicksadworld765]

Definitely one of the albums of all time

[@Oyeahog]

Stfu, you’re favorite rapper is an mumble rapper who moans and screams in the mic. You know nothing about hip hop

[@RedRumble14]

I only know BELIEVE from here. Found it motivating in the gym for years

[@Madio0]

Why are you doing this to yourself Jon, I wouldn’t let my worst enemy to suffer like that

[@DevinPosey20]

Exactly

[@FollowerOfChrist144]

My first reaction to this album as it finished was “Why wasn’t the entire album as good as the last two”

[@hotwheelz3643]

Regarding what u said about liking the album I somewhat enjoy it I have it as a 5/10 in his discography and my top songs are Offended Believe Castle Arose Need me In your head Walk on water and Bad husband River

[@HEYitzED]

I’m always surprised when people don’t like Believe. I don’t really care for the album overall but that song is a 10 to me. Castle/Arose is arguably the best concept he ever came up with for a song. Amazing. The album overall is… below average, even as a massive Eminem fan. Some songs like Heat are amongst the worst songs I’ve ever heard in my life.

[@SuperSlimShaady]

Believe is still such a great song.

[@st333phanie]

i’m not sure how to pinpoint it exactly but this album sounds like an action movie soundtrack. if you played any of these songs over clips of vin diesel monologuing i would believe that these are fast and furious filler songs

[@tominoccic6415]

The Chloraseptic remix somehow clears everything on this album

[@parv6683]

Hope you get better. Billy woods Maps is a great refreshment after this album

[@nakulsharma2834]

Highly seconded.

[@alecisshady]

I remember when this album dropped I was 14 years old and I was a BIG Eminem fan. While I was listening to this album, I kept trying to force myself to like each track even though I knew they weren't good at all. By the end of it, I just had to accept that it was trash and it made teenage me very sad 💀 (I still like the last 2 songs tho)

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

I know I'm late but this comment had me in tears laughing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jellybellyforever]

5:35 Lmao best way to describe the beat, some "Dark Trap Moody Type Beat"

[@tylerhackner9731]

Certainly an album that exists

[@EntrEsprit]

I don't understand what is up with the mixing on this album, MMLP2 kinda has the same issue for me, The Eminem Show which came out 10 years before sounds much cleaner and fresh than those two

[@AndrewLeonard46]

Does Eminem know music is supposed to sound good? Like what the f*** happened after 2013? This man has 0 idea of what a good song sounds like. Not talking about lyrics and punch lines, but the sound aspect completely disappeared nowadays

[@treelvisuals371]

U can tell the last 2 songs were made before 2012

[@georginamoreira6723]

How in the world did i NEVER GET THIS NOTIFICATION WHEN I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT FOR MONTHS 😢

[@tylerthahandyman]

It's honestly just production. Lyrical content, subject matter and technical rapping is perfectly fine. There are the odd bar that is bad or cringe, that's about it. His flows and cadences and writing is perfectly fine. The album is just too long and mired by bad production though.

[@DonnyS997]

The flows are terrible, lazy, he sounds bored. TOO many corny lines some just straight up stomach churning. Boring rehashed song concepts and THEN there’s the production and not to mention all the pop features.

[@miner1430]

The lyrical content is actual trash and thats all he got going for him 😭

[@Karlb240]

The album is for sure not one of his best but Castle and Arose are up there with some of the best songs he’s ever wrote

[@XTOPH3RZ]

i think this album has suprisingly grown on me

[@AndrewLeonard46]

No ur just losing ur hearing

[@letaiser1733]

Man iam honest i like this album,it has a good beat Selection and good tracks

[@BigTimeSteeler]

100% couldn’t agree more. castle and arose are some of his best imo, walk on water is enjoyable. the rest bad

[@CragusMaximus]

😂love your reaction to this one Jon! Same as me 2bh. It was a 1 and done upon release! I like River but without your reaction I wouldn't choose to put any of them on EVER again.😂 happy to pretend it doesn't exist like the ep9: Rise of skywalker...

[@Trudon]

This album makes encore sound like illmatic

[@zainkhalil7494]

When Eminem said in a few years people would see encore like illmatic it was because he’d put out an album worse than encore

[@smaaron_j_46]

@@zainkhalil7494 that Careful What You Wish For bar aged really well if this album can make people compare Encore to Illmatic. Funny how the world turns sometimes

[@allanrincon7200]

Offended is the only song I'll defend on this album. It's the perfect mix of unhinged and batshit insane, that it wraps back around to "so bad it's good"

[@dies3156]

Rick Rubin was the executive producer for the whole album btw lol

[@t-acejuice2077]

He was also the executive producer of MMLP2, I don't know what happened behind the scenes with this record, while MMLP2 is better than Revival.

[@DonnyS997]

Rubin and Em should never cross paths again 😂

[@AliBHamza55]

In answer to your question regarding liking this album, I like Framed, In Your Head and Castle. Offended isn’t awful but I feel you on it. Hooks ruined a lot of okay-ish songs on this album

[@JhuntdaProdigy]

I love ‘Em, but I really don’t know how he ever thought this was a releasable album. It’s not only the worst Em album, but one of the worst albums I’ve ever heard. I can’t believe this is from the same guy who wrote The Way I Am, Stan, Lose Yourself, and Mockingbird.

[@Titleist24]

It’s almost impossible to believe this is the same human being that made MMLP.

[@JimJamFam]

I think the album is underrated af!

[@sebastianwiton2907]

Every time I see a reaction video to a horrible album, there's always someone in the comments that feels special by saying they like it and have a different opinion than others. But liking this album is just.... unjustifiable

[@alecisshady]

I was Eminem's biggest fan when this dropped and even I couldn't justify it 💀 shit was undeniably trash

[@andothersuchnonsense2685]

I get the subjectivity of music, but some things are just so grating that I can't understand finding them enjoyable to listen to. This album is that tier of music.

[@sebastianwiton2907]

@@JordanMac79 Encore has obviously better songs but nobody's listening to the whole thing. Revival has almost nobody redeeming about it

[@zanekersting9809]

No your a sheep for hating on this album

[@bdias1014]

I am a huge Eminem fan, but holy shit this album stinks lol , so it does Encore. I love/like all the other albums

[@TheWendellpaulo]

I used to think this was good hip hop, until I started listening to Conway. Jesus, what a difference.

[@happyanom2263]

This album is bad no question. But what's weirder to me is that couple of songs sound like Recovery and MMLP 2 throwaways. Tragic Engings and Castle sound like Recovery Eminem. Even the subject matter of Castle seems like something he would rap about in 2010. Need Me and In your head sound like MMLP 2 eminem or like 2013-2015 Em just by the voice alone. Listen to Recovery and MMLP 2 and come back to these song to, I hope, better understand what I mean. Overall I became an Em fan when this album was announced so to say I hoped for a better album is a huge understatement. I rarely come back to this record but gotta say Framed and Castle are my favorite just bcause they remind me of better eminem songs ig

[@DJJM27]

This easily could’ve just been a Short LP with Walk on Water, River, Believe, Framed, In Your Head, Castle and Arose. Think it would’ve been better that way.

[@AndrewLeonard46]

If he never released it it’d be better

[@DJJM27]

@@AndrewLeonard46 don’t have a problem with any songs I mentioned they are decent, it’s the pointless pop feature songs that weigh the album down massively

[@AndrewLeonard46]

@@DJJM27 I think they are all horrendous because of the sound. Beats are garbage. And the hooks are non existent. The reason why Eminem isn’t good anymore is because the hooks. He complains “why are my albums not killing mumble rap” and it’s because albums like this

[@mawangshallhang]

@@AndrewLeonard46 the songs he listed are fine

[@cianthulu4204]

Been waiting for this one!

[@waitkens90]

The absolute disrespect of Castle is disgusting to be honest..as much as the rest of the album is doo doo

[@danielrosadillasierra3734]

Jon say on some songs that "Rick Rubin produced so the production is gona be good", but i think that most of the production go wrong, with the hooks.. Some tracks i like, but the hooks not so much. On Em songs you need to pay attention to lyrics, he emphatizes that, but some songs need the other parts to function well.

[@groggroggrog]

this is somehow my dads favourite eminem album

[@khalewren2734]

I would’ve thought the album was bad anyhow, but did it really need to be ONE HOUR AND SEVENTEEN MINUTES??? Imo, only real good part of this album is Beyoncé’s hook on Walk on water

[@smaaron_j_46]

Beyoncé’s hook and bridge are beautiful, I won’t lie

[@lonepheasant3489]

Yes I do and I still love it too

[@stefandesert]

To me this entire album is caught in such two apposing minds. The Rick Rubin side and a softer pop side with some attempts of the trap sounds sprinkled on top. It keeps switching on you so it never allows you to get into it and feel the vibe. Like, do yourselfs a favour, look up every song with Rick Rubin in the credits and just listen to those. It's still questionable at times but you can get into it and it really makes you wonder why he didn't just stick with that for a full album's concept, and just have it be focused. But to me it's such a clash with the likes of the Pink song and it doesn't complement each other. Whether you're into a beastie boy kinda style or not, it's a night and day difference in objective quality in the productions and guitar riff samples done by Rick and the ones he didn't touch. To this day I really feel like there could've been a cool concept album if he really just went all in on Rick Rubin instead of this unfocused mess. Now it's a weird mix of rock rap with trap but there's no rapper features, only pop features which pulls the whole thing towards a weird mainstream middle-ground that no one really cares for while his whole thing is that he's a rapper rapper..

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

I agree. The album has no flow or cohesion whatsoever except for the last 3 tracks. It jumps from this super muddy, skeletal trap to cheesy Rubin produced rap rock to super glossy pop rap and back again. It can’t decide if it wants to be an anti-Trump album, a super personal record about his anxieties and place in modern hip-hop or a Licensed to Ill/80s Rubin rap throwback. I think even if the songs were great and had no issues whatsoever, the album would still have a totally disjointed and incoherent flow. The only run of songs that makes sense is In Your Head > Castle > Arose and that’s because they all more or less deal with the same topic and sonically sound quite alike. MMLP2 had a similar feel where it was jumping from topic to topic and sound to sound but that album at least had an overarching tone and feel to it that made the songs feel connected whereas here they’re all over the place

[@DonnyS997]

It’s the worst aspects of his previous 2 combined together but made even worse. I didn’t like the Rubin touches on MMLP2 either except So Far that song is cool.

[@ToneyDouglas23]

I disagree with the criticism of him being white and rapping from the perspective of a black person. He’s from the hood and if anything it helps voiceless minorities when they hear a rich white guy perfectly sum up how they feel.

[@eigintasbaranauskas7519]

The song is still ass tho

[@K-Dot94]

@@eigintasbaranauskas7519 for sure, but its one thing to think its ass and another to disagree with the concept fundamentally

[@bootyjiggle5695]

No matter how you were raised you won’t understand how it is being black and being discriminized, em for sure doesn’t remember. If you’ve heard the stories of black people from his generation and how they grew up you’d understand em couldn’t really relate at all. It’s a good gesture, but still it’s a message coming from the wrong person on a shitty song and a shit album.

[@jaylaalle5827]

i thought that jon already reacted to this album a year ago, but i was wrong 😭 (he listened to ‘relapse’ last year)

[@chewie525]

Been a life long em fan and I was so hyped for this drop and after hearing it I was so confused. I genuinely thought he was joking He wasn’t..

[@thatdorkyshow1059]

I love Believe, but I wish he would redo it so the vocals weren't so poorly mixed.

[@masonite2356]

I fully understand this album is terrible, but as a lifelong Eminem fan I kinda forced myself to like it lol. Most of it I straight up dont like but I still run back Believe, Walk On Water, Offended, and Nowhere Fast on occasion. Sometimes I spin Castle and Arose back to back if I'm feeling particularly emotional lol

[@elkayim6797]

24:50 sums it up in a second tbh

[@zanekersting9809]

This album proves new Eminem is even better

[@brandonallison3315]

"i dont want to hear this with my ears" 😂😂

[@ForrestRanger]

All I remember from Walk on Water is Beyonce fans giving Beyonce A LOT of crap for collaborating with Em...

[@aaronhoe]

That “so basically you ate off hitler” bar is so bad 😭

[@jayfuego563]

If the album was better produced it would honestly be a solid album. Great bars/flow on tracks like Believe & in your head. The production is what throws it off.

[@yo-man928]

Castle and Arose are much better imo

[@JTidiotboy]

Nah. The best production in the world can't fix corny lyrics and terrible delivery.

[@figz6327]

delusion. this album easily has some of em’s worst writing ever

[@smaaron_j_46]

@@figz6327 the more of his wordplay I catch on this album, the worse it gets 😭 “even my cheap shots are overpriced, but this finger is as free as a bird” how do some people like that song?

[@deadanyway3951]

Castle + Arose are amazing

[@barry4649]

Imagine if someone like Kanye or Kendrick who have a better discography than Eminem took 4 years off to come back with this shit. They would lose so many fans from that and that’s why I think Eminem most definitely has an advantage in selling records because he’s white for that reason tbh

[@gabrielvalerio3528]

Donda 2 has entered the chat

[@donev_]

Kendrick fans waited 5 years to get his worst album so yeah it happened

[@treyjordan1284]

​@@donev_ worst album? lmao. seem to have misspelled DAMN.

[@super6070]

@@donev_ how is mmtbs his worst

[@barry4649]

@@donev_ Mr Morale and the Big Steppers is infinitely better than this shite

[@squiggles1239]

Besides Tragic Endings (although it sounds like a Recovery throwaway) Castle and Arose I also couldn't stand this album. First time I've felt that way about any Em project (Encore had some great moments).

[@GABA-Gool]

This album sucks. But Framed is fire. I don't know wtf you're talking about with that one.

[@Z3in_]

This is one of the albums of all time

[@darkcraftertheking4377]

I’m an em fan but I’d say revival was bad. There are a couple of good songs. But em and a lot of his Stans needed to know that a couple of good songs do not make a good album And as a black man myself I do appreciate what em was trying to do with revival.(I think someone else said this in the comments already). 24:49 And I really love this joke😂