Travelling to get new Rats! They have stumpy tails | VLOG

[@Creatureexotics]

Whenever I take one of my girls to the vet I ALWAYS get ‘what’s in the carrier’ Sometimes I get ‘EW REALLY’ quite frequently I get ‘is that a hamster’ 😂

[@Emiology]

I had it at the vets the other day when I had one of my mice put down someone came over “I have to ask what have you got in the carrier” a mouse. She screwed her face up and I couldn’t help myself “it’s dead now, so…” 😅

[@nzpaws]

I get that too - usually I just say there’s nothing in it yet, but I’ve had a few people in the past see who’s inside and mistake my hamsters for baby rabbits 😂

[@maryhumphreys8611]

My carrier has stickers on it that say I have rats. One says "emotional support rat" and the other says "my rats think you're gross too" 😂I have never gotten anything other than an "awww, can I see?" reaction at the vet, but I am probably just driving away the people that would react negatively haha.

[@careyhutcheson4473]

​@@maryhumphreys8611😂❤ love this. What a good idea

[@dawncowan7009]

Ive had eww why do you have rats?? Just put them down. Loads of them in your local allotment... I have a humour that normally I get out of taxi and say oh no she's escaped!! You should see their face..

[@MGX93dot]

4:30 when I got my rats from a breeder recently, she stated a smaller carrier is better because the rats will bounce around less in the event something bad happens. Obviously not TOO small though, the rats must each fit in nicely.

[@Emiology]

Yes! That’s a good point. Will make them feel more secure too, can always switch them to something bigger if staying overnight etc

[@vixxenreigns]

Toast kind of reminds me of Crumble. I absolutely LOVED Crumble.

[@Emiology]

Me too 🥹

[@hayleyedwards8911]

If anyone was wondering I did a little searching and the carrier is called the Aladino carrier from Ferplast! (The rats are so cute!)

[@rattiecake542]

Congrats on the new rats!

[@catpachinko8539]

I had a rat with a little nub tail like that! She was so sweet and silly, they are such cute boys! Love them! Congrats!

[@marie-anne9789]

The boys are so cute. I adopted a burmese who was a retired buck from a local ethic breeder with 2 babies last march. He's such a sweet boy and one of my favorite 🙈. I named him Pretzel so his name could fit his coloring 🥨

[@Emiology]

Pretzel is such a good name for a burmese!

[@kerseykrewzoo]

Congrats Emi! Your new boys are adorable! A couple months ago I finally got the chance to have rats again after owning 1 sweet female years ago for about a week. She was a going away gift when I was moving states but my grandmother refused to let me bring her to live with us so I had to give her to a cousin. Anyway, my 6 ratties traveled about 4 hours in a vehicle to get to me and the previous owners stopped for short breaks about every hour to check on them and offer water, though they did of course have veggies in with them during the ride. They were a bit nervous and anxious when they arrived but settled in fairly quickly once brought inside and placed in a quiet room to "decompress". They have been absolutely amazing to watch and feed and I'm so glad to have finally gotten the chance to really experience the joys of true rat ownership and friendship. 🤘🏻❤️‍🔥

[@iheartkeqingg6681]

15:34 I traveled with rats on a train for 1 and a half hour and I got sat next to someone with a Rotweiler but the dog was calm and was only sniffing my carrier. The owner thought the rats were adorable so everything went fine.

[@RainbowRasberries]

my partner and i just picked up baby rats last week for the first time! they definitely did the fear poop but thankfully we were in a car haha. thank you for your videos, they've helped us this past week! your new boys are so cute

[@maryoleary5044]

Wowza! They are adorable.. another helpful video!

[@melissawaite6018]

So sweet! They’re handsome, and I love their names. I had no idea that birth injuries like that could happen, wow.

[@sharkytampy]

i always put my pet carrier when i get mine in a box and then in a bag

[@IfSoGirl88]

That's how I travel with my snake, lol I don' want anyone start screaming or calling the cops on me 😂

[@maelikesgrapes]

Oh! They’re so pretty! I’ve never seen a domestic rat with that coloration before. Awesome!

[@georgianbayrattery]

Congrats on the beautiful new boys💕

[@itsMrOmelet]

I can FEEL you when you say that you distrust carriers. I got a carrier cage from PetSmart (🤢) and the handle broke off. My two rats were in it and the top popped OFF, leaving my rats to tumble down half a flight of stairs... it was not good. Edit: They are both okay now!

[@Emiology]

Oh god that’s so scary 😞 I will carry on being distrustful 😅

[@itsMrOmelet]

@@Emiology Also, congrats on the ratties, they are so cute! Love the names!

[@Creatureexotics]

‘Leeeeeds’ 😂 they do sell that carrier at pets at home, I think it’s ferplast :) can also buy it online in a lot of places

[@porqueazultinkerbell]

They are lovely like you,Emi ❤..Congratulations ❤️🐭🐭

[@samsixx]

theyre so so pretty boys, so jealous. getting my 2 rat boys in just over a week. i built their cage which was XL savic small pet cage or something like that, its massive!! theyre gonna have so much space, and im getting a ton of toys and treats in the next week. all my amazon stuff comes in the next two days too (i spent over £100 on rat stuff 😭). ive been watching all your videos over the past month to make me excited and i cannot wait.

[@billkent6037]

I used the exact same technique for a ratto hotel stay in Turin, Italy once! 🤣 I had two mature and very social, well behaved rattos with me and I needed somewhere to stay for the night. I put them in a carrier inside a "bag for life" and boldly checked in with the rattos only a metre away from the manager 🤣 Then I sneaked their travel cage in the hotel through the back door! After checking for any dangers I even gave the lads some floor freeroam 😆

[@karenjohnson9035]

Your new rats are so cute. X

[@jemimahoffman5085]

They're so cute! 💖

[@Velociiraptor]

The new rats are such cuties 💕 Edit: 7:31 your shirt is what I named my cat after! Duchess!

[@pokabrows]

Hmmm I might try to get a carrier like that since it'd be kinda useful to be able to hide their cage in a bag like that. Hopefully since they still have most of their tails they wont be too effected by them being shorter.

[@-sofiaequestrian-]

Omg the rats are so cute ❤I love your videos they are so much fun to watch 😊

[@Gus-BrawlStars13]

Wow nice video, they’re so cute

[@Jesshi345]

Aww there fluffing adorable!!❤

[@kellygalvin7775]

They are adorable 🥰

[@myjennaration4945]

Aaaah I'm so happy for you! Welcome to the family bubbas ❤

[@jupitersspell]

They're so cute! One of my rescues has a crooked tail and shes my most agile!

[@rowdyrats7035]

Oh my gosh, they are so precious! 😍 The names are adorable. ❤ I need to get couple of new boys before the end of this year as well, most likely sometime in autumn.

[@tahliaatkins7974]

oh my gosh so so cute. when do you think you will introduce to your other boys? I have travelled so far for almost all my boys as there arent many ethical breeders here in Australia. the furthest I have travelled is 3 1/2 hrs to a different state for two girls xo

[@HanBanan828]

I’m transporting 2 rats by car 8 hours in a couple weeks! I’ve been prepping like mad! The car has very good AC and can easily keep temperature if we have to leave the car for bathroom breaks etc. and I’ve bought some shades for the back seat windows. Planning on cucumber, watermelon, and bell pepper for water source.

[@Emiology]

That’s dedication! It’ll be worth it 🥰

[@kayleighmel4554]

This video was perfectly timed. I'm actually going to pick up my first set of baby rats in about a week. I will be traveling about 5 hours to get them so I was a little worried but this was really helpful.

[@TheKhajiiit]

They are so adorable.. we have 5 little boy idiots and getting 2 dumbos in 2 weeks when they are ready

[@mousenation3867]

Gorgeous new rats I love them

[@jamiedelgado1484]

I just had to pause the video to say how fun this is to watch right now. Having just picked up new baby's this last weekend, it feels like we got new rats together. Hope your enjoying your bonding time without a camera being on. I cant wait to see more of your boys. 😁🫶

[@LulaMae21]

Me watching this when I've just paid the deposit on my next three boys (and my first dwarfs!). Congrats on the new cuties!

[@georgianbayrattery]

You will love dwarfs!

[@furbeez]

Omg ur boys r soo adorable! I don't have rats, but i do have 3 sweet little girl mice. I will be looking into 2 female rats in a few years when the girls cross the rainbow bridge.

[@dawncowan7009]

Mines same from Pets at home.

[@SoLadiesFishAndGentlemen..]

HEY I HAVE A QUESTION! So, I have a rat that's about a year and a half old. He is in tact and is a rescue. He was housed alone for being a biter and aggressive. Towards me at first, he never showed any signs of aggression. When we tried to introduce him to my other in tact bucks, he would start to approach them from the side and lounge at them. This resulted in minor injury's that I failed to prevent as he was so focused on attacking them. My other bucks have never shown any signs of hormonal aggression and has never bit me. Yesterday, I was holding him and just walking around my room when he spotted one of the bucks at the cage and immediately poofed up with hackles and bit me extremely hard to the point where I had to go to the emergency room. He has not bitten nor been aggressive since. I also have several doe's that are all very sweet. Loki, the buck that bit me, does have one other cage mate though that's it. The cage mate is much younger but I do fear he may be aggressive towards the cage mate (Eddie) once Eddie comes of age 3-8 months. Should I take the risk and neuter him? And if I do should I put him with the doe's or try the bucks again?

[@Emiology]

For now keep him in another room away from the other rats, wash your hands and change your clothes if you’re going to be holding him so you don’t smell like the others. If he’s getting worked up and has bitten you once he may bite again but he definitely needs to be neutered asap. After 6 weeks when his hormones have died down it’s up to you who you want to try him with, good that you have the does as another option as sometimes they need that and still don’t get on with males

[@SoLadiesFishAndGentlemen..]

Okay! Tysm@@Emiology , I really appreciate the quick response! I will go talk to my mother about the whole thing.

[@moonsternine5286]

Might have missed some part of the explanation, sorry if I'm asking about something you already covered, but... do I see red on their tails, near the butt-cheeks (as in healing injury where skin was missing)? Might also mess up their names and/or associate the names wrong... I'm terrible with that (which is the main reason I try to never have 2 similar rats at a time 😖) Is it an injury/healing well or am I seeing things like the light making it look like something else? Ref : You see it quite well when Toast/the dumbo crosses the screen between 17:35 and 17:37 You can also see some of it when you put them in the cage, between 5:23 (easy to miss tiny bit on Tiffin/top-ear) and 5:40 (hard to miss big bit on Toast/dumbo)

[@Emiology]

It’s just red sharpie used to identify them in the litter when all the siblings look the same 😊

[@moonsternine5286]

@@Emiology Thank goodness! Goodie boys 🥰🥰🥰

[@alistermcstrudel3476]

Hej Emi 😊 What kind of bedding do you use in the cage? I've been looking everywhere for such large flakes, but I always only find very small ones.. Looking forward to hearing from you. 🧡

[@frog7657]

Where do you get all of your wrap stuff from?

[@Teatime562]

Thank you for this! But one question? Are you supposed to bond with them the first day you get them?

[@Kravges]

Glad I ain't thr only one mine travelled 4 hours by train, by the breeders mother brought them to my door bless her, but I was panicking the hole time with ways they could escape 😂

[@josephinastover5785]

Great video, and congratulations on your two new babies! They are both so adorable 🥰 Rats are still my all time favorite pet

[@firecat2382]

my boys were born may 1st 2023 also.... we got them at 4 wks .

[@samsixx]

thats so young!

[@firecat2382]

@@samsixx they had 3 litters. I was shocked when they said we could take the 4week old ones, they had 2 litters from April 15th so we took 2 and 2. it was an accident the females got out , so the guy was overwhelmed had 19 babies and 14 plus of his own. so my boys got lucky. took em straight to vet and perfect health so maybe i got lucky lol

[@Nataschacamilladansbo]

u are a really goos inpiration so i migt get rats now❤but i am stil sad that my bff dont wanna see me cuz im gonna get rats but i wanna give rats a good life. i love ur channel keep doing the good job👍

[@Flossy_234]

When you said Leeds I was like 👀 I live in Leeds 😂😂😂

[@-louise-163]

aww they are so sweet , also sorry kinda random i just got my first leopard gecko and i was wondering wether you can take them to your local vets or exotic vets ?

[@Emiology]

Usually had to be an exotic vet 😊 some local vets may have someone who is knowledgable about reptiles so worth asking

[@-louise-163]

@@Emiology ok thankyou

[@lenajazuk4231]

Do you have certain way of you handling a pet passing? I would imagine loosing rats every 2-3 years is not easy to handle but you still getting more rats so I just wanted to ask how do you handle it I have guinea pigs and each passing makes deeper and deeper dent in my mental health

[@MatchaSoup]

These lil guys remind me of my baby. 💕 I rescued him. his mother was very stressed when she gave birth and bit one of his legs off. He’s learned how to walk and climb normally, but I didn’t realize that stuff like this is pretty common for rats

[@Emiology]

It’s not super common but it does happen! Think it’s more common with inexperienced mothers that haven’t had a litter before

[@MatchaSoup]

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

[@garywebster3585]

Looking forward to the intros.

[@Emiology]

I’m not 😂

[@louisefox5666]

Yes I've never travelled on public transport with rats but i know they do ok on trains etc but i can say definitely rats are fine travelling in the car they always fall asleep! and yes like someone else said a small carrier is best because even if the carrier is strapped in if its a large space they can still fly from one end to the other if you were to crash or brake suddenly (i'd never thought about this until someone else pointed it out to me). also the bag is a great idea if you are in public, i really don't care about comments but i would be worried about being thrown off if someone decided they didn't want them there

[@IvyWhiskeyDram]

Lovely new ratties.

[@Cameron77]

Hi emi! Just wondering, do you have to have a temporary cage for first time rat owners? If its important as they need to get used to everything and not get overwhelmed by a big cage, ill get a temporary cage. Just wondering as im doing loads of research!

[@Emiology]

It really depends. If the babies are small and you’ve got a full double critter nation for example I would split the cage in half so they don’t get overwhelmed and it’s easier to bond with them. Some babies and some cages like critter nations the bars can be too big for really small babies. You’ll need to get different size and temp cages eventually when you add new rats as you need different size cages for introductions 😊

[@Cameron77]

@@Emiology thankyou!!

[@Empress_Moth]

Awwh the new boys share a birthday with me! 🥰🥰🥰

[@PeacheIIe]

What's that red bit on the base of Toast's tail? D:

[@Emiology]

sharpie to identify them at the breeder

[@torriawhittingham3676]

Your getting your rats from Leeds, where are you based then, I used to be in Wakefield

[@Emiology]

No where near Leeds 😂

[@RatsRulee]

yay new rats im so excited to see them!!

[@jack-a-lopium]

Handsome lil dudes!

[@moonbyulslove]

They are such cuties omg 😭❤️ adorable!

[@rotta_7400]

Aww theyre so cute i also just got rats theyre so cute

[@sgthebee]

I don't drive, so I take my rats on the bus every time we need to go to the vet. An hour or so each way. I have a rather large carrier - I think it's for rabbits - which I fill with fleece blankets and hammocks so they have lots of places to hide, along with some food and slices of cucumber or similar. The rats alternate between napping and testing the carrier walls for weaknesses so they can escape. While people definitely ask what's in the cage, and despite me always forgetting to lie, I usually get neutral to positive reactions! In fact I don't think I've ever had an "ew" reaction from anyone I've told about my rats. Often I get "Oh I used to have pet rats!" The closest to a bad reaction I got was my dad saying "you should just adopt the rats outside our house." Cue the "we have _ at home" meme.

[@janicemichaloski5292]

Aww they are so cute,❤

[@riverisenby556]

My girl Noor has a bite scar around the tip of her tail, so it makes a sort of 8 shape, rather than a v (it's hard to explain). Very very cute boys!

[@InsignificantToast]

I had one like that! Her name was Half-Tail. (For obvious reasons.)

[@Bunni504]

People shouldn’t advertise themselves pet friendly if they don’t accept pet rats. I wish people would stop thinking that wild rats and pet rats are the same.

[@torriawhittingham3676]

We've all tamed wild rats haven't we to keep them as pets 🤣🤣

[@Sincerely_hazelnut]

Out of pure curiosity, how would you feel if someone named one of their rats after one of yours? I’m not implying I would do that bc I have females but I was watching your old videos and realized we both have had rats named Twix and I started thinking about it. Congrats on the new boys btw! They are adorable!❤❤❤

[@Emiology]

Lots of people seem to do it, I don’t mind!

[@YouraverageK-popmultistan]

​@@Emiologyhey i got a question is it ok to but hamster bedding in a rat cage

[@maryhumphreys8611]

So cute!!! Can I ask a question, though? Are they just in the top half of your normal rat cage with your other boys below? I was under the impression that new rats when brought home need to be quarantined in a separate room until you start intros so they don’t spread any illness or cause any stress to either group. Is this still advisable, or does it depend based on specifics of your rats/where your getting your new rats from, etc. If they are just above your other boys, do the groups seem to notice the others there even though they can’t interact yet?

[@Emiology]

It really depends! If I’ve got them from a place I don’t trust like someone off of a selling site I’ll keep them in another room, but right now I don’t have any space in that room and I trust the breeder to have been honest. True quarantine would be in a completely separate air space so I’m not sure how much better them being in the room next door really works. Some rats won’t cope well with having other rats above them / in the same room for I’ve had some boys that would’ve been obsessive about trying to get in and it would’ve been too stressful, luckily none of mine seem to notice and I just pop either group in a carrier when they free roam so they can’t interact through the bars 😊 Most breeders tend to have this system I think

[@maryhumphreys8611]

@@Emiology Thanks for the reply! I live in an apartment and while I've only done the new rat intro process once, I did keep them in my one bedroom away from my older boys for the first few weeks, but like you, I wasn't sure exactly how helpful that was since it wasn't a completely separate air space and I wouldn't be able to create one. It's good to know that splitting my double cage could be another option if the temperament of my boys will allow it. Thanks again and enjoy bonding with your two new cuties!!

[@MarieABriscombe]

They are adorable! 😍😍

[@Bear_the_shepherd]

11:59 courgette* 😂

[@Emiology]

Both 😊 my demographic is 60% US lol

[@sharkytampy]

what is that at the top of thier tails it looks like blood as its all red

[@Emiology]

It’s just sharpie used to identify them when they all look the same in a big litter 😊

[@sharkytampy]

@@Emiology oh ok

[@Albino_on_pawzz]

your cages are butifull and congrats on the rats

[@eprohoda]

Howdy?, top edition. Emiology~ ✨

[@hey_itskiras2656]

Hi do u know where I can get rats from I live near Warwick shear (not telling where) thank you if u can help

[@Emiology]

Have a look at the NFRS breeders list

[@jameskerns1234]

Ah, another rat video ! My favorite ❤

[@itsjustscarlett4723]

What is the red on there tails??

[@Emiology]

Sharpie

[@itsjustscarlett4723]

@@Emiology ohh okk

[@diane9693]

Such handsome boys 💙💙

[@piggielife]

The furthest I travelled to get rats is about 850km one way, from Bucharest, Romania, to Budapest, Hungary :)))

[@saraforkin]

Do they have blood on their tail?

[@Emiology]

Sharpie

[@knotsoangelic]

bit of an off topic question, but where would we send cage setups for reviews/reactions (if you’re still doing them)? Your gmail is listed as business inquiries only and I’m unsure where I would send pictures of my cage setup for my boys I’m getting in december lol.

[@Emiology]

I did have another email but forgot the login lol. When I do intend to film one I post in my Instagram stories or community tab to send them in 😊

[@knotsoangelic]

@@Emiology Okay cool! I’ll be sure to follow your instagram and keep an eye out then. Thanks for the response!

[@ItsjustmeAbby]

Temporary cages I don't quite get the concept wouldn't they just get More stressed because they have to switch cages I would like to know this cause I am also getting rats in 9 days

[@Emiology]

No, especially considering the permanent cage has the other rats in it and they can’t just go straight in with them. Regardless if they’re you’re first ever rats I still recommend a slightly smaller cage for babies or splitting your main cage if it’s is possible as even the most confident baby rats can find that much space overwhelming when they’re settling in and it can be hard to get to them to bond with them.

[@2ndEssi]

what funny timing. my sister just went and picked up some dwarf rats in long island (new york.) 4 hour trip each way, partway by ferry. they're super cute ! congrats on your new rats. edit: also, my sister has a similar carrier. it's by living world in the US. no idea if it's the same over there !

[@Emiology]

I bet they’re adorable 🥹

[@marzettik]

Congrats on the new boys! Seems like they’re veggie snobs though, didn’t want to eat that green bean. 😂 Peas fir life! 🐀

[@Emiology]

They really are 😂 don’t blame them I don’t like green beans either only peas

[@cloudyskyz2237]

Not rats but mice. The furthest I’ve traveled was 8 hours round trip 🫠 it was out of state

[@Emiology]

Wow!

[@cloudyskyz2237]

@@Emiology I live in a place that doesn’t really have mice near me, so I unfortunately have to always travel far. Worth it though cause mice are amazing!

[@Cheese_Boi1986]

has getting Gambian Pouched Rats ever crossed your mind?

[@Emiology]

Nope!

[@Cheese_Boi1986]

@@Emiology ah shame ive looked them up but there dont seem to be a well done channel like yours that covers them

[@eraticatorr]

I didnt know some people had to drive 2 hours to get to a rat breeder. idk what I would do in that situation honestly 😢 since I dont have a car, thankfully the nearest breeder (and a good one I might add) is 6 minutes away with the bike ❤❤

[@cheerfullyplayinghouse3855]

Is it ok to travel 4 hours to get rats?

[@Emiology]

Yes 😊

[@nikitayanchevska4272]

What breeder are they from Emi? :)

[@Emiology]

Endeavour 🙂

[@quagmireBennett]

i love you

[@lennyattew734]

Hi ❤

[@Emiology]

Hi 😊

[@lennyattew734]

@@Emiologyhow are you? 😊

[@Serpent.Mistress]

Oh my goodness your boys are so adorable, especially Tiffins little stubby tail

[@soph4850]

I don’t trust my rodents’ carrier or the cat carrier I transport my guinea pigs in 😅 I just don’t trust those silly little plastic clips Edit: what specifically do you offer babies as extra protein? Like what foods, brands, etc :)

[@Rekuzan]

*SMH* Erf....ignore the haters! Honestly, if I'd been sitting next to you on that train, my reaction would have probably been much the same as that of a Japanese school girl: "EEEEEEEE, They're so KYOOOTE!!! What are their names? ....Oh M gosh, Shadow-the-rat ALSO has a Dumbo named 'Toast', but she's a little dwarf ratty" Or something like that, but, ya'know, that's just me. N-E-Way, I wanted to say that I feel your pain because personally, I've been getting a LOT of Flak lately in the comments section on my videos. "OH, your rats are sneezing too much" or "OH, Your cage is an absolute mess, clean it up & take better care of your rats!!!" *Banging....my....head...deep breath, THEN I respond to the trolls* 1. It's NOT a cage, it's an enclosure or habitat. (I don't even bother trying to explain the concept of 24/7 free roam to the zombie hordes). 2. (regarding the specific video in question) I cleaned their habitat 3 days prior, but it's a Rat's nest and it's ALWAYS messy, even when it's clean. I know a 'clean and sterile' habitat is what is most commonly associated with ' good health' in western culture, but with rodents, it's a completely different story. tl;dr = It's what makes them the most comfortable because it's lived-in. To do otherwise would be bad for their overall health; physically & emotionally! Honestly, I don't even BOTHER trying to explain why you leave 25% of the old bedding under the new stuff because these people are so brain-dead, it's just a waste of energy. 3. It's not SNEEZING, it's called 'trumpeting', is just a rodent clearing their sinuses, and is a perfectly normal behavior for them that they do dozens, if not hundreds of times a day. 4. *99% of readers have long since tuned out* ........WHYYYYY do I even bother??? ....oh, that's right! Ratties are so cute, and I'll keep trying until the heat death of the universe! 5. Cheers!!! P.S. Almost forgot to ask, but it looks like genetically speaking, they have a little roof (black) rat in them? I was wondering because of the way their eyes tend to bulge out of their heads in a way you don't see in most other fancy rats.

[@louyse6341]

i wish i had rats but my parents say no!

[@dawncowan7009]

I hate how ppl are so ratist. My brother has cats he's paid multiple vet bills for. He heard I'd had my girl to have surgery and said For a rat!?! She's my pet. So im glad I didn't actually hear that in person. Because after the wk Ive had I'd of lost it.. Worry over Sandy's op( ratty) Then my rescue pygmy hedgehog died. Some ppl need to realise I don't really like cats, Im more a dog person. I don't like snakes or bugs. But we all are different we have different pets.and ppl just seem to go eww you have a greyhound( ex racing rescue) Rats!! Ewww why do you want vermin in your house.. Bloody hell say its a hamster thats cute, mention rat and the look on ppls face.